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what did he mean by this?

Kek, it's actually One returning.

Someone posted a pic on GB just now of the grey First Doctor costume next to Twelve and Bill's, as well as loads of other costumes from S10

>>80312831
proof?

Reminder that in actual canon, Susan Foreman is alive in our time, and the Doctor has actually come back a few times, but he doesn't like to go to Brussels that often.

http://www.chakoteya.net/Extras/WH2SF.html

>>80312694
>breaking down at home after learning he'd been fired
>"I don't want to go."
Honestly, are there no emotive moments that Moffat and his proteges won't bastardize?

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>>80312854

>>80312694
Not gonna happen.

>>80312917
Intriguing

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>>80312854
It's just this again

>>80312917
Those tractator antennae on the right tho.

>>80312986
That's the Mire costume

Soz to disappoint

>>80312879
>Actual Canon
>Dr Who

Back in series 2, RTD teased about the finale cliffhanger, and how it's going to be really exciting and he can't wait for people to see it. At the time, my childish autistic mind thought it would be really cool if the first Doctor suddenly appeared, but in some kind of villainous form (no idea where it would go from there)

if this is all true, all of my Doctor Who fantasies will be coming true.
They'll find Marco Polo next

>>80313049
GOAT.

Sycorax confirmed.

https://twitter.com/GirlyLetters/status/833456241196281856

>>80312917
Although I don't see any part of any First Doctor's outfit in that picture, those trousers do look like something Hartnell would probably have worn while chilling at home. Is Twelve actually going to visit retired actor William Hartnell and take him for an adventure in the TARDIS?

http://clarabosswald.tumblr.com/post/158285170560/massive-doctor-who-spoiler-under-the-cutmore

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>>80312917
>>80313105
>I don't see any part of any First Doctor's outfit in that picture

>>80313121
that's literally just based on what people in the thread are smugly insinuating

>>80313121
What is this, a tumblr for ants?

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>>80312694
If Capaldman's last episode had a Susan cameo, I would praise Moffat until the end of my days, and forever forgive him for the screw up that was series 7.

>first doctor regeneration flashback
>everything freezes

Door appears. Twelve walks out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoGCHnIX6AU

>>80313149
That's clearly not the same outfit tho. Only the pants are similar and Capaldi has worn pants like that himself.

>>80313202
Fulfilling Peter's final fanboy wish: meeting Susan.

They could even call the episode An Unearthly Man.

>>80313149
Are you saying that a grey narrow-cut modern blazer is the same thing as an old-fashioned black sportjacket, or that a pair of pyjama-like trousers with a pattern is the same thing as a pair of dress slacks with a completely different pattern?

>>80313261
Bill is an Unearthly Woman because she's from Mondas

>>80313264
>completely different pattern

try harder

>>80313238
>Only the pants are similar
Even knowing what "pants" means to Americans, it's hard not to read this as a joke.

Just confirmed on GB by an actual, trusted spoilerhound/patron - check it out.

Also apparently there's a video of the alleged Hartnell costume and its actually black, the light is making it look grey

>>80313238
It looks more like it in the video >>80313087 (0:20 onwards). Just weird lighting in the pic

>>80313314
What, exactly, is "confirmed" by them?

>>80313214
>inserting Clara into Hartnell's timeline twice wasn't enough
>in Moffat's final season he has his own Doctor travel back in time and punch Hartnell directly in the face

>>80313292
You honestly can't tell the blatant difference between those two patterns?

I guess at least one Doctor Who fan isn't gay after all…

>>80313335
First Doctor returning played by David Bradley.

Also, do you think the companion being called 'Bill' is some sort of cocktease from Moffat?

>>80313314
>https://twitter.com/GirlyLetters/status/833456241196281856
If true, it's weird that they'd showcase the costume there, giving something quite big away about the series. Though I guess they could've just told people asking "oh, it's just to mirror the current Doctor with the very first"

oh my god. if the story has bill being from mondas AND the first doctor coming back i will jizz.

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>>80313314
>trusted spoilerhound
>in a press release

>>80313362
>Also, do you think the companion being called 'Bill' is some sort of cocktease from Moffat?
>implying that Moffat has ever written anything that wasn't a cocktease

>>80313333
God dammit this is like that white and gold vs. black and blue bullshit.

>Companion called BILL
>1st Doctor costume on display for the Series 10 showcase
>Mondasian Cybermen

It's all stacking up

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I hate that I'm starting to believe these stupid fucking rumours and I especially hate that it's actually exciting me.

There's no way the season arc is going to revolve around keeping 1 locked up in the basement, and there's no way involving him in the show like this could be a good idea. It's insane and terrible

>>80313468
I agree, but it's Moffat and it's his last series

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>post yfw the first doctor ACTUALLY shows up in the finale

based moffat

why is it easier to get banned in /who/ than on the main board?
where's your sense of board culture?

>>80313496
that is the face of a bullshitter

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>>80313504

>>80313496
>PLEASE OBEY THREAD RULES

ok hitler

>>80313435
Companion's gf's called Heather. Same as Hartnell's wife.

This is meme magic. Everything is meme magic.

At this rate the next doctor will be Jazz Hands/Alfred Enoch/Hayley Atwell

>>80313564
HAPPENINGGGG!!

Holy fuck.

The finale will be called THE FIRST PLANET

Screenshot this

so what's the story here?

Moffat supposed to finish with Series 9, but because Chibbers has to waste time with Broadchurch and plays and holidays, he can't make time to do it, leaving a yuge gap between series.
So Moffat agrees to do series 10, but only on the condition that he can do whatever the fuck he wants, even if that involves a massive fanwank and direct sequels to stories 50 years old... and bringing back the first Doctor, possibly Susan too... right?

>>80313564
Nice catch

Jesus christ this is Moffat at his fanwankiest

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>>80313564
POTTERY

>>80313586
no it'll be called the Ninth Planet
Pluto utterly BTFO

>>80313586
That would be a pretty good name actually.

>>80313537
I have no idea what you're talking about. Explain.

So is #1 showing up as a cliffhanger for Christmas or in the finale itself?

>>80313600
Or what if Capaldi was threatening to quit and only agreed to stay for one more series on the condition that all of HIS fanwank story ideas get made.

The Twelfth Planet.

It's gonna end with 12 and 1 departing, with 1 remarking how 12 was a "good man" before regenerating, isn't it?

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>>80313087
>>80313333
Still looks a bit weird, though admittedly the collar is the right shape.

I can't wait to see the butthurt on Planet Mondas when 1 is brought back.

>>80313643

I was really hoping you wouldn't respond, I was actually in the wrong and it was a while back, and in another thread it was just some nonce probably breaking a legit board rule so forgive me. I love /who/. This is /who/ I am.

>>80313586
I hope it's called THE CLOCK STRUCK ONE

>>80313670
oh god you just added a whole new layer of hype for me

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>>80313667
Here's (presumably) the same costume in the DW Experience.

>>80313667
I was skeptical, but that's 100% the costume of the First Doctor.

I worry how the fuck this will work with the casual viewer though? This is literally the most fankwanky thing the show has ever done. This should've been the 50th Anniversary episode.

>>80313664
It will be pre-regeneration #1 and pre-regeneration #12, won't it? If it's set sometime around The Tenth Planet.

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>>80313504
I dunno how to feel about the possiblity. Seems like something that could go really well or really badly with not a lot in between.

>>80313703
Ok...Well I can't speak for /who/ but I forgive you anon. Carry on, and enjoy our shitposting.

>>80313721
different tie and coat

so wait. Is this multi-doctor story the finale or the Christmas special?

>>80313795
neither

>>80313795
Apparently he has The First Doctor locked up in the basement all series (?), and he gets out at the end of ep 12 and the Christmas special is a 12/1 multi-Doctor story.

I think Moffat's on drugs.

>>80313842
If true, I'll be gutted if there isnt an episode called WHO'S IN THE BASEMENT

>>80313667
>>80313721
Still doesn't look the same to me.

>>80313842
I think Moffat's on drugs.

What only now?

>>80313941
Can /who/ meme this into becoming reality just like the Cybermen?

>>80313564
>Moffat created a Hartnell tribute character who's a black lesbian
kek

>>80314063
With a name like Bill probably trans too. Now all she needs is one leg.

>>80314036
>Bill is from Mondas and becomes the first Cyberman and is also the First Doctor who is locked in the basement with Susan while he and himself are traveling as 12 and Bill after he gets killed by himself

>>80313741
This. It could be GOAT kino but it could also be a huge disaster.

>>80313729
Maybe it could work if the show treats him as essentially a new character, rather than write/direct the scene in a way that makes it seem like a very significant reveal that the audience should instantly understand the gravity of. For instance, have Bill discover him on her own and they have a scene where they talk to each other. And then later when she confronts the Doctor about keeping some old man locked up in the basement he tells her that it's actually himself, and she is (rightfully) extremely skeptical of this concept.

I can't believe I'm defending this idea or even taking it seriously. What the hell is happening

>>80314186
I have complete faith in Moffat's ability to turn it into a huge disaster.

but why would he keep 1 in a basement? this sounds fucking stupid.

13th Doctor is the 1st played by David Bradley.

Perhaps younger.

>>80314238
Maybe they should get Nicholas Briggs to write it instead, that would be much better.

>>80314251
It's not Capaldi keeping him there. It's Missy.

This also has the side effect of making the Cybermen invade Earth as they have no opposition.

>>80314286
But then it's pretty much guaranteed to be either terrible or average.

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>>80314323
>this actually makes sense
what the fuck, this can't be happening

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>>80314348

Theory Missy is trying to rewrite the events of the tenth planet. And it involves the 1st doctor and Mondasian Cybermen in the present day.

>>80314323
wait, so missy takes 1 out of time, locks him up in 12's tardis (or her own tardis), meaning the cybermen succeed in 'the tenth planet' and take over earth?

this actually explains how the mondasians are on earth.

however, wouldn't it also mean that 12 wouldn't exist? would the paradox trigger a regeneration?

>>80314418
Fuck, I hate how this is sounding more and more plausible. Not only would removing the Doctor from before The Tenth Planet result in the Cybermen invading Earth, but it could also prevent him from regenerating and therefore mess up all the Doctor's future incarnations/history.

Which seems like something the Master would find amusing

>>80314348
in all seriousness, Nick Briggs has written some pretty outstanding stories, and most of them were completely original with no returning elements.

Lucie Miller/To the Death was probably the best fanwanky thing he's written.

>>80314323
>>80314418
This could actually work. Not sure why the NuWho Cybers would turn up though? I guess it could be some sort of crazy paradox thing because the timelines were changed.

>>80314554
I still feel that the idea of Twelve telling Bill about the evolution of the Cybermen over images of them in the street plausible, and him explaining how the Mondasians should no longer exist is plausible.

>>80314473
/who/ just wrote a better finale than Moffat's going to

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>>80314600
I completely fucked up the wording there due not rereading.

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>>80314418
That actually sounds like it could be interesting.

There's no way they'd actually do it though. At least not without fucking up something.

>>80314600
Hadn't thought of that. Have we seen any images of the two types filming together?

That'd suck. Like hearing that Billie's returning for the 50th but it's not as Rose.

>>80314475
Shoot, I actually forgot he had written that. Nevermind, let him write for NuWho.

This wouldn't be the first time Moffat has played with the idea of bringing the 1st doctor back.

Remember they used archive footage for Name of the Doctor.

So maybe that was the moff planting the seeds? seeing how people would react it seemed to go ok. So then they full on recast him with David Bradley in Adventure and time and space further setting the stage for a 1st doctor return.

>>80314696
Based Briggs.

They should just give him a fluff episode at first, like an Episode 2 or 3.

He's earned it desu senpai.

>>80314727
Is this the same Briggs who voices the Daleks?

How does that come about?

I also like the idea of a paradox induced regeneration. If they cast a woman as the Doctor this could explain why it happens. Missy fucks up the timeline causing a paradox induced regen making the first ever female doctor.

>>80314727
if I was showrunner, I'd give him a single episode as a tester, with one rule: NO DALEKS

I'm sure he'd come up with something decent.

>>80314697
>Remember they used archive footage for Name of the Doctor.
Remember they actually cast a younger First Doctor in Listen.

>>80314777
They could always co-write, to keep Briggs from going utterly mental

>>80314791

Yea but you don't even get to see his face.

>>80314766
he's also executive producer at Big Finish and very prolific writer.

His Dalek voices in Big Finish are the reason he got the TV series job in the first place.

>>80314658
>That'd suck. Like hearing that Billie's returning for the 50th but it's not as Rose.
What did you mean by this.

I was dreading Rose returning, having her play a different character was a pleasant surprise. She did really well with the material too

1st doctor was also in the witch's familiar too
maybe this is moffats long game

>>80314848
>50th Anniversary
>having the Moment take the form of Rose and not Susan
>"I'm a child of Gallifrey, too, grandfather. Could you kill me?"

>>80314848
Well I was happy with it. I was just trying to make a comparison. Like, the news makes you expect one thing, but you get another.

>>80314768
That's fucking dumb. Why would a female regeneration need to be "explained"? Especially making it the result of some sort of error

>>80314845
>His Dalek voices in Big Finish are the reason he got the TV series job in the first place.

It's a shame they haven't got someone better. Power/Evil have brilliant Dalek voices compared to the New Series.

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>tfw moffat retcons bill into being the real first doctor

Every single episode will end with Bill talking to a woman, sipping tea together. She's actually telling the woman about her adventures. The woman is not seen until the end of episode 10.

>>80314894

I think it requires some explanation I mean if the previous 12 incarnations have been a man and he suddenly changes sex come on? sure it might be controversial but if they are going to make a female doctor part of the lore it has to believable

>>80314845
Okay I didn't know that. Knew him only as the Dalek voice.

How long has Big Finish been going then? Pre 05 then?

>>80314766
>Is this the same Briggs who voices the Daleks?
http://doctorwhogeneral.wikia.com/wiki/The_Nice_and_Accurate_History_of_Big_Finish has most of the story.

>>80314952
Big Finish started in 1998 and got the Doctor Who licence in 1999.

Been going ever since.

>>80314919
i've seen this gif a million times and have never noticed there are cybermen in the background

>>80314934
Missy again?

>>80314947
>it has to believable
you're an idiot

>>80314777
Honestly, I'd let him write a Dalek episode. I'd also do anything in my power to keep Steven Moffat from writing them as well.

>>80314995
Susan.

>>80314903
well I don't think you'll ever top Peter Hawkins, as Briggs himself admits. But he is still excellent and consistent, and also can do a variety of Dalek voices (when they allow him to)

Funny actually, because his regular acting (as he's done a few times in Big Finish) is pretty atrocious.

>>80315029
your mom

>>80315054
You just pulled that straight from GB - it was literally someone saying they'd *like* to see it happen.

>>80314836
if you used photoshop and brightened it up you could see his face. at least on the leak version. the casting was pretty good, he looked a lot like hartnell.

>>80315029

Sorry but your the idiot. If you think the fan base is just going to accept a female doctor without an explanation your kidding yourself. 50 years of WHO will go down the toilet in a matter of seconds if they don't do it in a way that appeases fans of Classic Who.

>>80314959
tl;dr: Besides the classic actors and a couple of classic writers, all of Doctor Who today is created by a couple dozen people, half of them from Nick Briggs' basement in the mid 80s, the other half from the Tavern drinking and arguing group in the late 80s.

Bringing Matt or Paul back would have been better. What will 1st do? Stand around on his cane while 12 does all the heavy lifting? Fuck off Moffat.

>>80314947
it's been established now that sometimes, a sex change happens with a regeneration. It's not common and there's nothing wrong with it, but it doesn't need an explanation.

That said I think the whole explaining while 12 had that face was completely pointless too.

>>80315114

The 8th doctor theory does still hold up doesn't it his sonic is in the leaked trailer.

>>80315099
what the fuck are you talking about. you're like one step away from saying "you're messing with the wrong fandom. whovians, grab your sonics!"

>>80315099
There are a couple dozen people who really give a shit. And another couple dozen who would be just as overjoyed as you'd be angry.

The rest of the world—including the actual fans—won't care either way. They'll only care whether the story is any fun or not.

https://youtu.be/__2XLiVrFwo

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>>80315151
>class

Rude. Glad he's going.

https://youtu.be/_D6uOz_uvXo

>>80314959
What the heck is this.

Very informal not like the tightly controlled articles on wookiepedia!

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>>80313314
I'm suspecting that either the First's costume will be featured in the scene of the Thirteenth choosing her new outfit, or the First himself will appear in some kinda short flashback.

Is it autism?

https://youtu.be/iIL7In0jxRw

>>80315250
http://www.reddit.com/r/socialjustice

>>80315317
Fuck you, Matt Lucas is based

>>80315269
>he doesn't know about our wiki

newfag detected

It's okay though. I'm always happy to see new anons here. Just lurk a little before you contribute to the wiki.

>>80315269
>What the heck is this.
That's the /who/ wiki. If you want formal, go to TARDIS Data Core.

Also, if you want stuff that the /who/ wiki won't tell you because it's boring bullshit about who did the voice of extra #3 in the German dub of episode 2, go to the TARDIS Data Core, but if you want stuff that TARDIS Data Core won't tell you because it's subjective, or because even though everyone knows it nobody has proof, or because it's insulting to someone even though it's true, go to the /who/ wiki.

>>80315099
I know it's a shit episode, but they did technically already explain it in Hell Bent.

>>80315366
>>80315386
Okay so it's like an informal one then.

Like the SW ones that exist just to make fun of SW.

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>>80315386
Well, "formal" would be one word.

>>80315454
Yes, but it's not entirely to make fun of DW, it's also about the history of this sub, and it also legitimately has a lot of info that TDC doesn't have. And of course those missions conflict with each other, so to find the truth or the good jokes or anything else you have to be able to sort through all the memes and the autism, but that's part of the fun.

>>80315443

I know know timelords can regenerate into woman but for a character who has been a man the last 50 years to suddenly change sex would be at the very least a little jarring.

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Farting

>baically all of it is from the RTD Era

BRAVO

>>80315386
You forgot about copyright policy.

TDC's rule is that nothing actually happened unless someone paid for the right licenses first. Campaign and Time's Champion are the same thing as some crappy fanfiction on an abandoned LiveJournal page.

/who/'s rule is that nothing actually happened unless it was at least halfway decent, or really really bad, or someone on the board is autistic about it and forced it.

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I wasn't sure how to do a basement.

>>80315523
Every VNA is still uploaded on here.

http://doctorwhogeneral.wikia.com/wiki/Category:VNA

I'm kind of surprised wikia allows server space for bullshit like our wiki.

>>80315527
Imagine being autistic enough to make this page, contributing full, episodic references.

REMINDER

http://doctorwhogeneral.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_unnecessary_TARDIS_Data_Core_pages

REMINDER

>>80315525
The implication there was that that particular timelord was originally female and that the male incarnation was a fuck-up.

So, basically, all that needs to happen is for him to regenerate wrong. Like, I dunno, he's in the middle of a regeneration and he accidentally drinks a fucking glass of soy milk or some shit.

>>80315527
>When Victor Kennedy absorbed Bliss, her face ended up on his right buttock. When Elton Pope asked where she was, Kennedy lifted himself up, farting as Bliss told him he didn't want to know. (TV: Love & Monsters)

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>>80315628

>>80315527
holy shit. click on the "talk" tab

>Has the word "flatulence" ever been used in DW etc to describe farting? As the quote on the cleanup tag states at least "farting" has been used to describe the subject of the article. --Tangerineduel / talk 13:17, October 8, 2013 (UTC)


>The word's used in a few of the books I own, but none of them tell us precisely what it is. Here's the closest I can find, from GodEngine:
>Chris's nose filters had succeeded in keeping him awake, but the smell of the anaesthetic was rather too much for him, and he had to keep from retching — the room smelt like somebody had just had a very bad attack of flatulence.

>Then there's more references — in Sky Pirates, The Also People, The Tomorrow Windows and The Man in the Velvet Mask — but the word's only used once mainly out of context, and no explanation for the term is given. The word "flatulence" has definitely not been used in any of DW, SJA or TW. So, if my collection's any indication, it should be renamed to farting. Unless someone else has a story with an explanation for the word, of course.
--SOTO 03:17, October 9, 2013 (UTC)

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>>80312777
What the fuck happened to his hair? Was Barrowman prematurely JUST-ed?

>>80315585
/who/ has pages on like four VNAs.

I'm sure with strange aeons even Iceberg will find someone with something funny, or illuminating, or, most likely, not funny but they think it is, to write a page about it. But there's no big rush to be completist about it like at TDC.

>>80315684
Being erased from Doctor Who by Moffat causes hair to turn snow white before falling out completely.

>>80315681
TDC talk pages are much funnier than anything on the /who/ wiki could ever be.

Also check out their forums. (No pun intended, but once you read enough of them to recognize the name of their Autist In Chief you won't believe me.)

I was just rewatching Battlefield and Ace said something that I didn't think she'd ever say. It was hard to pick up on it at first. In the transcript, this is the exchange:

SHOU: I bet even your parents hated your guts!
(Now Ace backs up to the edge of the circle.)
ACE: Shut up, you yellow, slant-eyed
(Then realises she is about to leave the circle. They hug each other.)
ACE: Someone's playing games with our minds.

——

Fucking hell.

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>>80315681
Good lord. All it's missing is Czechout telling everyone exactly how they have to refer to farting in their entries.

>>80315681
Bueno

>>80315738
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:183627

Can't come up with a perfect rule that objectively defines two-parters without requiring anyone to use their brain. Therefore (after 2 years of arguing) there are no two-parters.

>>80315839
*2nd meant for >>80315584

>>80315584
what is that in the top left?

>>80315897
clala and ashildrs tardis diner

>>80315897
You mean the diner TARDIS?

The only way bringing back the First Doctor would work if it was a YOUNG pre-An Unearthly Child Doctor.

>>80315597
>Judaism
>go to page
>"This article needs a big cleanup"

>>80316100
>implying >>80314323 wouldn't be GOAT

>>80315733
But he was mentioned in The Girl Who Lived

I wish more people read Nev Fountain's Mervyn Stone books. They're like if a Doctor Who script editor turned into a private detective.

>>80312777
>>80315684
>I was in Dr Who you know.
>Whatever, grandad.

So who's most likely in the basement /who/?
Extra points: Provide decent evidence

>>80315317
>counts peter cushing
>doesn't count john hurt

War Doctor confirmed non canon

>>80316205
It wouldn't be. Whatever actor they got they would still look and sound almost nothing like Hartnell. The only way it would work would be to cast a much younger First Doctor.

>>80312777
Why did Merlyn fuse with Damien Darhk?

>>80316371
I've seen them up on Big Finish's site but never really gave them much thought.

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>>80316205
They just need to cast a good young actor who looks vaguely like this.

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>>80316501
>who's most likely in the basement

>>80316648
i wonder whatever happened to the guy that made those

>>80315347
>He doesn't know what social justice is but hates it anyway.
Typical 4chinner.

>>80316100
That's much worse

>>80316694
Hung himself after Night of the Doctor got released

Now that Gallifrey is back, will we see other Time Lords/Ladies adventure with the Doctor?

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>>80316480
/Who/'s in the basement?

>>80316726
Worse than hiring a Hartnell impersonator or an actor who looks only vaguely like him like David Bradley? Er, why?

>>80316726
your mom is much worse

>>80316765
>The Monk
>Episode 4
screencap this

>>80312777
Does he have HIV?

>>80316857
>called the meddling monk
>don't dress like a monk

wew lad

https://twitter.com/OldRoberts953/status/840736856962674688

What did he mean by this?

>>80316887
well in this case he'll be called The Landlord so that doesn't really matter

>>80312777
IS THAT A BIG FINISH LUNCH

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>>80316887
>>80316887
>implying the GOATest Monk isn't the Monk because he doesn't dress like a monk

wew lad

>>80316958
It's certainly a BIG lunch but he obviously hasn't FINISHed it hahahahahaha

>>80313941
i made that one
And yeah it's gonna happen

>>80316810
Yes, obviously. Because then you're fucking with pre-Unearthly Child stuff. Why would you want Moffat to mess with that?

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>>80316985
>implying anybody could be GOATer than Butterworth

So if Nardole is a watcher but isn't the Doctor how is that gonna work. hes some sort of guardian? sent by someone to make sure 12 regenerates when hes supposed to.

>>80312694
Anyone mad that Maisie Williams played some viking girl instead of the Doctor's grand daughter? That was such a missed opportunity.

>>80317132
He already has tho

>>80317132
I don't. But doing a Richard Hurndall nowadays would just be embarrassing. And a good writer (probably not Moffat) could handle a young One with tact and care so as not to spoil the Doctor's mystique and backstory.

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>>80317169
No, that /got/ mong tainted the show enough.

>>80317169
God no

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paused death in heaven randomly and found this gem

I just rewatched The Tenth Planet and the Mondasian Cybermen definitely weren't wearing flesh-coloured gloves like the new ones are. Did the costume department fuck up?

>>80317469
I just rewatched The Tenth Planet too and the Cybermen voices were kind of annoying

>>80316585
I read them years back, and they were fucking great. He takes so many thinly-veiled yet loving potshots at Ian Levine, DVD commentaries, American remakes, Richard Dawkins, and even his own girlfriend.

>>80317469
Yeah, Anneke Wills even said that their hands were painted silver.

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Where did the rumor start about 12 having something locked in a basement?

>>80317195
I know. That's why it's even more baffling why somebody would be okay with him doing it in an even more direct way

>>80317469
the original design called for gloves. When for some reason that didn't happen on the day they panicked and painted their hands.

So yeah the costume department fucked up... the Tenth Planet costume department.

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>>80317582
Now we know why we she was on set during finale filming.

>>80317543
I think I might give them a go then, as a late birthday gift to myself.

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>>80317712
oh shit

Who the fuck isn't coming back, according you /WHO/ and GB?

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>>80317682
>When for some reason that didn't happen on the day they panicked and painted their hands.

I always liked how the earliest version still had organic hands, now I'm imagining the production team shitting themselves because they were literally too broke to go down to fucking B&Q and buy a pack of gloves or some shit.

I wonder how much influence Chibbers has on the S10 ffinale and Christmas? if there is going to be any setup for S11. For instance I think Moffat requested the Tardis explode in the end of time part 2.

>>80317682
But what's onscreen is ultimately all that matters and they should stay true to that.

>>80317840
Chibnall doesn't care as long as he gets to have a holiday and work on his play.

>>80317840
>For instance I think Moffat requested the Tardis explode in the end of time part 2.
I don't remember that happening, did Russell tell him to fuck off?

I remember RTD asked Moff if he wanted the Time Lords back or not, and obviously Moffat wrote Matt's first scene.

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>>80317790
Nobody is actually coming back it's just silly old /who/ always seeing paterns in things that aren't there

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>>80317790

>>80317938
It happens at the end of the episode.

>>80317950
>Nobody is actually coming back
Except Ice Warriors, Missy, and Kandyman, of course.

>>80317950
the tv movie is top comfy desu

>>80317647
I second this question

>>80317976
Oh. Weird use of the word "explode", anon.

>>80318124
I'm pretty sure RTD described it that way, so anon just got it from him.

>>80318185
Oh. Weird use of the word "explode", RTD.

>>80318205
I can't remember exactly what he said, but I do remember wondering whether Moffat asked for what he actually did, or whether Moffat actually wanted the TARDIS to actually explode and RTD gave him a few fires in the console room instead.

>>80318015
>Kandyman
huh?

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>>80317906

>>80318271
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2017-03-10/kandyman-set-to-return-on-doctor-who-series-10

>>80317906
So Chibnall will be JNT?

>>80318411
Yeah pretty much him right now

>>80317906
>Imagine writing for Who for years
>Thoughts about where to take the show/explore the Doctor
>Be given the opportunity
>Nope holiday time. It can wait.

>>80318411
>>80318464
>implying Chibnall is writing Doctor Who any time soon

Has the new trailer been officially released or is it still the lowres leak?

>>80318411
>>80318494
He's actually writing his next play in that picture

>>80318459
>So Chibnall will be JNT?
As far as I know, Chibnall is not visiting every sci-fi convention in America trying to talk to Star Trek fans about a show they didn't realize was still on the air after 1980.

>>80315250
I thought the BBC forces him to not swear while representing the show?

>>80317790
Adric.

>>80318554
>>80318554
"Fuck the BBC." - Based Capaldi

>>80318554
He used some meaningless Yank slang that might be dirty, but honestly, who knows what it means. It's not like he said "shite" or anything.

>>80318636
I thought shite was a watered down less offensive version of shit?

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>>80318554
>>80318680
Branding certain words as "bad" or forbidden is fucking bollocks anyway. There's literally no harm done by putting an S, H, I and T in sequence.

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>>80318411

>>80318865
Please no bully.

>>80318680
They're emphatic in different ways because of the sound, but you can make either one borderline offensive, and they're both always vulgar. I think either is a lot less offensive than "shit" seems to be to America.

Well, there is one difference. Sometimes English people say "shite" in a mock Irish (or sometimes Scottish) accent, which you can't do with "shit". Then it's just a joke and doesn't count as swearing at all. Maybe like Americans saying "shite" while doing an English accent?

>>80318858
yeah duuude, words are just like, sounds y'know? sounds aren't harmful. sounds are our friends, dude

/who/ prove me wrong.

Chibbers only talk the job cause there was no one else. Chibbers will do less years than Moffat and RTD. Probably 2 years tops. Before cancellation in 2020.

>>80318865
I appreciate the effort you put into making this joke.

>>80318865
Lazy fat cunt hasn't even activated windows

>>80319000
Chibbers took the job because he was offered it
The job was offered to him because there was nobody else

>>80319000
>implying that Gatiss hasn't been calling the office every day for three years to remind them he's ready to step in as soon as Steven leaves.

Oh shit I just figured it out...
It's either McGann or Eccleston in the basement

McGann being locked in the basment signifies he never got the chance to ''break out into the tv series''

While Eccelston would be as punishment for shite talking the BBC elite and refusing to come back for years.

>>80318984
Well, they're not. The whole idea of "swearing" or "bad words" is nonsense. Say what you bloody well like.

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>>80318919

I bet we never even find out what's in the basement. They just leave it super vague or don't tell us for years, like the crack in the Doctor's hotel room in The God Complex.

>>80319083
I agree, the entire concept is built around society believing a word is offensive just because

Gallifrey is in the basement.

What's all this new talk about something in the basement?
Can I get a quick rundown on where it's coming from?

>>80319139
yeah, it's pretty fucked up how society just decides that different sounds have different meanings

>>80319028
>Being this angry about nothing
How's that autism coming?

>>80319169
>Can I get a quick rundown on where it's coming from?
the basement

>>80318680
While we're on topic: For Americans, is there a huge gap in "dirty wordness" between "crap" and "shit"?

>>80319217
don't be like that
I want to join in on the memes friendo

>>80319191
Not that, just that certain ones are somehow different, like you're allowed to say poo but not shit even though they mean the exact same thing.

>>80319229
Yeah, "crap" is considered pretty mild.

>>80319232
It comes from rumors on Gallifrey Base.

>>80319243
It's not about the sounds, it's about the etymology:

>From babytalk: Not naughty
>From French: Only naughty to people who think "bawdy" is still a word.
>From Anglo-Saxon: Probably naughty.
>From Scottish: Equivalent to a rape threat.

>>80319229
>pretending you don't know the severity of different swear words
for what purpose

>>80319229
Crap is considered a pretty mild swear usually, although some people (usually Christian with enormous sticks up their asses) considered it as bad as other swears.

>>80319229
I'm not an american but I can give you an australian ranking tier

>non-offensive but considered offensive elsewhere in the world
damn
bloody
twat

>low tier (ie christians say it and don't feel like they've sinned)
crap

>mid tier
shit
cunt

>high tier
fuck


Those are the only swears I'm aware of. There was a court case some time last year which ruled that fuck wasn't offensive enough to be charged over uttering it in public, so I don't know if there are really any words that are off limits.
http://www.baka.com.au/nsw/court-finds-f-fred-nile-not-offensive-language-at-marriage-equality-rally-20161025-gs9ymc.html
replace baka with s m h

People use all of these words in a normal work environment and nobody cares, someone would have to go out of their way to notify HR and say that they're uncomfortable for anything to be done about it
Also I've never heard "nigger" be used as a genuine attack on black people, only affectionately regarding a friend so I don't know what that counts as. Since the country at this point is heavily influenced by american culture people are aware today that nigger is a bad word that you're not meant to say because racism, but there's no real culture of self-censoring it to "the n word" outside of the public news media sphere

>>80319506
Wow, fuck higher than cunt? It's just the opposite in US, you gotta be very careful about cunt.

>Those are the only swears I'm aware of.
You don't have wanker?

>/who/ - Profanity General

Can we just Regenerate already?

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

>>80319506
>twat
>non-offensive

>cunt
>mid tier

Don't fall for this "Swears Aren't Offensive In Australia XD" meme

>>80319593
There is absolutely no situation or context where saying "fuck" would be considered more offensive than "cunt" in all of Australia. Anon's talking shit

>>80319593
Why should "cunt" be offensive. Because vaginas are evil? Fuck this planet.

>>80319593
>you gotta be very careful about cunt.
This. It can be a real dozy if you say that word in the front of the wrong eprson.

I like saying "horse shit". Its kind of uncommon to say so doesn't seem to offend people.

>>80319593
>You don't have wanker?
We do, it's just such a non-swear I didn't even think to put it on the list
We also have "tosser" but it's such a non-swear it's even used in government advertising - ie "don't be a tosser" for anti-literring ads

>>80319646
"you're such a cunt" isn't that offensive. Especially with the whole "straya cunt" culture that's arisen these last few years, the word "cunt" has lost almost all of its severity

Of course I'm talking about within the context of millenials. I'm sure baby boomers would have different views on what words are offensive and how much

>>80319625
better than the time we discussed wiping

fuck standing freaks

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>>80319593
Why is cunt so offensive in america? Is there any historical significance to the word?

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>>80319761
>standing
what

>>80319737
Maybe in your circle of bogan friends it's not that big of a deal. I remember my shitty friends in high school using it pretty liberally, too. That doesn't mean that society as a whole thinks it's fine. It's easily the worst non-slur swear there is. I can't even comprehend how you unironically claimed that it's on the same level as "shit", and that "fuck" is worse.

Is it just because you were trying to impress the Americans?

>>80319787
Puritanism.

>>80319506
The funniest bit is that all foreigners seem to think wank, wanker, shag, twat, and bloody are polite words in England, when they're… about as bad as words like shit and piss. They're all words you can only say on BBC before the watershed in "exceptional circumstances". (Although exceptional circumstances aren't that hard to get nowadays.)

Also, some words are more offensive if used literally, others are more offensive if used figuratively. Calling someone a twat isn't nearly as bad as calling a twat a twat, but calling someone crap is worse than calling crap crap.

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>>80319869
there was once a /who/ thread where people discussing wiping after pooping
apparently there are people who do it standing up. they got really mad at people dont do it that way.
its probably on the wiki somewhere

>>80319872
>Is it just because you were trying to impress the Americans?
It's probably just like Scottish people telling English people that "cunt" isn't a bad word in Scotland. They just hope that you'll go there and call someone a cunt and get your arse kicked for it.

>>80319872
I was never told that cunt was a mega-bad word the same way fuck was.
Swears are purely subjective and quite superficial frankly, and what you consider offensive is largely just due to what you were told was offensive.
I know people who use it liberally, like you say. It's clear it's a swear since it's used in that environment, but I have never seen anyone react in a "ooohhhhh did you really just say that" type way after hearing someone say cunt. Based on my life experiences I have no reference point or reason to think that cunt is worse than fuck

>it's easily the worst non-slur swear there is.
Based on what?

>>80319988
>poop
I cringe whenever adults uses this word.

>>80320066
poop

>>80319787
It's offensive most places.

The problem with Americans is that they don't seem to have any words like "fanny" (or "quim" if you want to sound old-fashioned or northern) to use instead. And saying "vagina" just makes you sound clinical and inaccurate at the same time.

>>80320129
He meant real adults, anon.

>>80320166
>quim
wew I've never heard this one before

Problem with americans is they use "fanny" to mean ass

>>80317766
Underrated post.

American. Cunt was probably the last swear word that I ever learned because it was just at the mountain's peak. It can make some people really infuriated, but the youth seem to care less and less — actually, they seem to care less and less about everything.

I kind of noticed that the British use it more liberally, but never really gave it much thought.

My favorite mild British thing that would never fly here is "cow." I think the Welsh say it the most. Like, "you silly cow" to a woman.

>>80320066
Glad I'm not the only one

>>80320250
why wouldn't cow fly in america?

>>80320166
There is "cooter" if you want silly words for vagina.

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>>80319506
Where in the world is bloody offensive? I remember them saying that in Harry Potter (the early ones, before it got edgy).

>>80320275
It probably would be fine, but you'd come off as an anglophile.

>>80320301
There was a mild controversy when an australian tourism ad had the slogan "where the bloody hell are you" and it had to be pulled because americans were getting offended at it

>>80320166
>or "quim" if you want to sound old-fashioned or northern
"Quim" doesn't mean "fanny" up North, it means "queem". Like exaggeratedly prim and proper, but in a country sort of way, not a London sort of way.

Also, I think to young people, "quim" doesn't even sound old-fashioned anymore, it's just some made-up thing Loki calls people in the Thor movies.

>>80320294
>There is "cooter" if you want silly words for vagina.
Doesn't that sound Southern or something?

>>80320229
There's still a handful of old ladies here who are NAMED Fanny.

>>80320345
If Americans were getting offended at it, it's not because of the "bloody" part. It's the "hell" part.

>>80320345
Actually scratch that, it was the UK that got offended at "bloody" not the US


I remember a Vicar of Dibley gag where one of the characters was told to stop swearing because he used the word "bloody" which they called a swear, and he responded with " 'bloody' bloody isn't" (the joke being that he used it as a swear). I don't know if it's a conservative UK thing or they actually do consider it a real swear all over

>>80320367
>Doesn't that sound Southern or something?

Honestly, I have no idea if it's a Southern only thing. I live in the South though so it may very well be.

>>80320413
>There's still a handful of old ladies here who are NAMED Fanny.
Even if it means bum instead of twat, isn't it still funny?

Although in England, posh ladies (definitely not middle-class ones) named Frances can be called "Fanny", because all posh people talk is basically slang for penises anyway.

>>80316887
>The name Monk just stuck with him, he was only posing as a Monk a few times. He dresses in ''normal'' clothing in the EU.

>>80317647
Gallifrey Base Months ago.

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>>80313664
Make it so Moffat.

>>80319000
The Tom Baker years had single season producers. Let's keep our shirts on.