The Expanse

>>79740007
overatted

>600k viewers on syfy
>10+k on torrents
yeah

>>79740007
I have the exact opposite opinion. It's pathetically over rated and the fans refuse to acknowledge the problems the show has. I don't think it's down right bad but if you ever venture into a thread about the mother fucker and you don't tow the faggoty "omg everything is just like so craze amaze and perf! yass queen! slay boo"line you're attacked and ridiculed. Thank goodness this site is anonymous because I hate expanse fanboys and wouldn't be able to take them seriously in any context

>>79740007
No, takes forever for anything to happen.

>>79740095
>>79740587
don't venture into a threads, just watch the show.
S1 maybe isn't really shining mainly bc the cast, but at the end you'll accept them, then S2 you'll even start liking them, while the plot overkills all the bigscreen bigbudget scifi movies you saw in your entire life.

>>79740620
>what's buildup and setting

>>79741022
I skipped the first 5 episodes and I don't intend on watching them ever. I honestly doubt I missed a damn thing.

>>79741098
>skipped it
>still here talking about it's overrated
maybe you should just stick with sunnyphiladelphia and family guy

>>79740007
In all seriousness it's probably Agents of SHIELD. Not because it's brilliant, just because it's better than any other capeshit on TV at the moment despite everyone calling it terrible. The last episode was genuinely very good.

>>79741239
Well then tell me what I missed you raging faggot. Oh that's right you can't because literally nothing happens that matters that isn't talked to death even more by the end of the season.

>>79741022
plz no disagree wif me :(((

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>>79741319
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>>79741365
read a summary, or the first book.

>>79741479
btw i'm not even OP, and rarely visit expanse generals bc bookfags spoil everything

Y'all must be starved of decent science fiction if you think The Expanse is anything better than B+ entertainment at best

The stronk womyn bullshit in the new season is pretty obnoxious. Other than that it's been alright, a lot better than the garbage that's usually on.

>>79740007
Yes

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>>79740095
>overatted
I agree.

Also next ep. sneak peak:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktnPXYSaqGg

>it's no longer reflecting radar
>can still see it

lol radar and visible light are all still just electromagnetic waves, why didnt eros go fully stealth if it can just magically stop radar waves?

>>79740502
what the fuck ?
i mean i dont think its GoT-level yet but it BTFOs shit like walking dead and gets less views ?.
what's wrong with people?.

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The pacing in this feels like a netflix show, you really have to binge several episode at a time to get a good chunk of anything it's so slow.

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>>79742943
Same reason this is able to have little radar reflection, but still reflects all of the visible light.
Different wavelengths of radiation behave differently in that they are blocked, refracted and reflected by different things differently.

>>79743056
that is designed specificlaly for that and still isn't 100% perfect, it's just designed to deflect radar waves from the side

eros is a giant asteroid and made no physical change to its surface, it simply just decided to stop reflecting them at all.

>>79743035
It's funny though, how all the events in the show take waaaay longer than they actually appear on screen. Any faster pacing would be ridiculous.

>>79742943
long range radar of the missiles is (relatively) low energy so absorbing it isnt that big of a deal to eros (but causes it to heat up abit).
but due to the roci being close even if eros went invisible they'd still see it on infra red\some thermal emissions due to bolzmann law .
the expanse is kinda realistic in that regard, even the stealth ships can only be stealthy as long as they dont burn\ only use cold inefficient propellant.
if you want a viable thermal stealth option look up james webb space telescope ,basically has all its hot parts isolated from the cold ones .

>>79743111
It also directly violated known laws of physics by changing course and accelerating such a huge mass instantly without turning every living and non-living thing on it into paste, which was directly talked about in the show.

The Alien Goo is sufficiently advanced technology, end of story.

>>79743111
the thing out of this galaxy made it happen. you don't know what it's capable of, yet you complain

It's probably gonna go downhill now that the most interesting character & better actor is kill but eh.

>>79743111
eros is either coated in protomolecule stuff that absorbs the radio or emits a jamming signal (destructive interference) to the missile's radar.
the second option would explain why it cant be stealthy to visual light because if it emits the jamming signal through the station (protomolecule is only inside eros, not outside) , it cant emit visual light through the surface because visual wont penetrate the surface while radio will.

>>79743218
We don't know he's kill just yet

>>79743218
yeah, bc the alien thing, the main plot of the whole story didn't survived the crash, and saved them

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Post Miller fags

>be miller
>complain about amos shooting ur friend instantly without a second thought and be upset with him
>proceed to shoot head doc instantly without a second thought and wonder why people are upset

do you think he ever made the connection, even amos said basically, you're the same as me

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>complaining about ayy space magic
>mfw ayys have space telekinesis and can literally delete atomic fusion

>>79743310
Miller knew Amos was right. He was acting out because Amos is a psychopath and Miller is suicidal.

>>79743310
his friendo wasn't mass murderer aik, you can't compare the two

>>79743121
this, last ep probably spans a few days and ignored all the relativistic effects.
also accelerating eros at 15-20 g's for days would make a way bigger explosion on venus then we saw, the explosion of hitting the dense atmosphere at that speed alone would tear most of venus's atmosphere off.

Anyone got a Mass Effect vibe from the music at the end?

>>79743344
>murder is ok when i do it

>>79742987
people don't like sci fi, shit i read a ton of sci fi and even i couldn't get into the expanse. halfway through episode 1 i was like, why don't i just fucking watch blade runner?

The biggest problem all these shows is hitting a sweetspot between soap opera and space tech stuff. BSG managed to do it because it sold SEX SEX SEX, the reason it drew in normies was the ridiculous amount of T&A in every season basically, and that overcame the aversion most people have to tech babble and boring things like space ships and engineers etc.


What pulls you into these shows is often a good hook or story, and to me personally detective noir is just lazy, it's been done TO DEATH and basically to perfection by the 1930s and 40s, what are you adding to the mix by putting it in space and having some mutated freaks and some new lingo and trying to world build.

I loved Stargate because it established a crew, you could drop in at any random point in the season and understand basically whats going on, and they could go to the well hundreds of times with the same formula. Star Trek did the same thing to great success.

TV shouldnt be a 20 hour movie, it should be episodic, fun.

I think a show like Supernatural is absolutely amazing, they managed to capture that X-files formula and vibe and basically create a super comfy show you can drop in, watch, and tune out. Or marathon a whole season and catch up. It works as a show because of the amazing chemistry of the two main actors, it's every buddy movie rolled into one, the funny guy and the straight man, the tough guy and the emotional guy, you can explore this with so many angles.


Now, what is The Expanse about? It looks to me (remember I've only seen 1 episode and a half) like it tries to be a giant esemble cast in a complex universe with multiple storylines eventually intersecting. So like GoT in space without the budget to make it 100% right?

That just seems like lazy writing to me. I honestly blame Thomas Pynchon.

>>79743363
>stop trying to be more than episodic schlock on CW!!!

>>79743363
You described the first 4-5 episodes fairly accurately. After that the fat is basically cut and it's on a fairly straight and narrow course. It's not episodic but it's not as stupidly bloated as GoT by any means. The Noir dies with the detective.

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>>79743363
Nice blog faggot.

>>79740587
Then please, enlighten me with your wisdom and superior tastes. Which ones of the currently running TV shows are actually worth watching? Because ive tried and dropped dozens of garbage shows over the last few years and only follow 4 series atm; Gomorra, Better Call Saul, GoT (which has been shit after S3) and The Expanse, which has been easy 8/10 so far.

>>79743362
Miller is a cop, Amos is a fucking mechanic or what. I think he can judge the situation better

>>79743412
i'll definitely give it a 2nd chance, i just need to be in the maximum mood for watching 5-6 episodes at once, because I need to power through when I watch a new show.

When I saw the drones it triggered me instantly because why the fuck would they have 2015-16 era drones in some futuristic space mining colony. Small things like that just make me internally reee and i lose all immersion.

>>79743441
lol how does those boots taste?

>>79743420
Taboo, lucifer, Agents of Shield.

>>79743466
the Belt is a ghetto, it's the Detroit of the solar system in-universe. It's skipped in the show, but the little shuttle the main characters use to check out the distress beacon in the first episode was so derelict that it wasn't even capable of atmospheric flight, it had little to no thermal insulation and was basically nigger rigged to even fly. Small bits of exposition like that had to be skipped in the show for the sake of brevity, but it's not high tech at all, Ceres is just a shithole.

>>79743488
>lucifer, Agents of Shield.
and you're not ashamed to tell everyone you like those

>>79743420
black mirror
luther
sherlock
broadchurch
peaky blinders
orphan black
the fall
the last kingdom

i enjoyed these

>>79743568
oh also utopia is finished, but imo it was one of the best shows of the past couple of years, got the comic book culture right and tied in some fun conspiracy theories together.

>>79743488
Thanks for confirming your opinions can be safely ignored, Lucifer is unsubtle shitty agenda driven garbage with no redeeming qualities and Agents of Shield is just trash indistinguishable from rest of the capeshit.

Ill check out Taboo though, seems interesting enough to give a go.

>>79743568
lel tier with 1-2 exceptions

>>79743356
I don't think the 15Gs spanned days. Hours, maybe, but people can't be strapped to a chair for days. Hours is plenty, though.

>>79742830
kek amos best boi

>>79743466
>When I saw the drones it triggered me instantly because why the fuck would they have 2015-16 era drones in some futuristic space mining colony. Small things like that just make me internally reee and i lose all immersion.
Why not? I still use pen and paper in the age of computers. Drones work very well and are very efficient, it is hard to imagine any future tech that improves it, except marginally. Maybe room temperature superconductors will make slightly more efficient motors, but atmospheric flight will still have the same principles.

>agents of shit
>lushitfer
>orphan brown
>shitlock
>the fall

Top kek

>>79740007
Two words:

Fuck. Yes.

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>>79744606
Best girl

>>79744720
Too bad she is a space jihadist. Space zombie girl is still best.

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>>79744757
Fuck you fag

>implying I wouldn't nuke a.major city for her

Last episode was in the show so far

>>79744806
No shit mayne.

>>79744828
*best
I need to start reading my own posts

>>79744806
My thoughts exactly.
>"wow this episode is definitely in the show so far"

>>79744870
In the best show so far? You really like the show huh?

>thinly veiled /pol/bait thread gets 300 replies in 2 hours
>thread about the greatet scifi show since BSG at least barely reaches 100

>>79745124
Don't worry, in a few years after this is cancelled it'll get bigger threads.

>>79745164
For you.

Also, fuck /tv/

>>79740007
I Miller dead?
Cause I'll stop watching the show if Miller is dead.

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DRUMMER IS A CUTE!

CUTE!

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>>79744720
is her name Sam ?

>>79745124
>BSG
btw, the marysue wrecking the roboarm and the space zoom-ins really resamble BSg

>>79745366
Need to make this into a roll

>>79745164
sad

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Rolling.

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>tfw millah and his space waifu died

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I loved this little relationship so much. I doubt we'll see either of these now that Miller is gone. The rookie was shaping up to be an interesting character too.

>>79745814
they are still alive.


pls.

>>79740007
Me: I'm gonna take a lunch break now.
My boss: CAN'T STOP THE WORK

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Alright I'm just gonna say it.

Season 2 is fucking amazing.

>>79746018
It may just be the best scifi season ever if it keeps this momentum.

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>>79745836

I'm more sad Anderson Dawes isn't going to be used as a future villain. Waste of a great actor.

>>79746086

He had a great turn, I'm satisfied

>>79740007
Why does this show have low ratings tho?

The Magicians is leading and rightfully so but The Expanse really deserves more attention desu

>>79746069
Indeed. Everyone is puling their weight in acting and the way the factions are setup (even within factions, like Earth politicians v. military) is great.

>>79746110
>Why does something good get neglected.
Do you need to ask that? It's like an universal law.

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Now that Miller is dead is there a reason to continue watching this?

Also, check em.

>>79746110
>The Magicians is leading and rightfully so

is it really good?

I have season 1 of The magicians, The colony, and the 100. Not sure which one I should give more time to, haven't started watching the first two but watched the 100's first 4 episodes and I want to drop it but the premise is very nice.

>>79746110
the magicians is fucking awful fuck off

>>79744720
would happily start a galactic war just for her to do me

>>79746086
the scene where he told the story about his sister was heartbreaking. i love this show because i can relate to each of the 3 factions so well.

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>>79746139
It' pretty awesome how clearly defined and separate different factions and even areas are from each other, and they feel "real" because of it. And how they differ in motives. All of these help a lot to make it feel organic, in the sense that every reaction of faction or a character feels legitimate and understandable.

And Fred Johnson for example, started as a bit of a quiet talk guy that wouldn't take a lead and now in the latest episode he was a convincing leader.

It's these thigns that make me love it so.

>>79746086
He'll be back, if they decide to follow the books accurately.

>>79746155

Yes? I get it, Miller was great, but I enjoy the other characters as well. I appreciate what Holden's trying to do and his ridiculousness is endearing to me. Amos is fun, the negro chick is hot and competent. Basically the only one who makes me roll my eyes is the pilot, and he's merely occasionally annoying.

The rest of the supporting cast is great and I think a show with the reputations this is building will be able to attract more quality talent.

>>79743035
>>79743121
For me this seasons has been a machine gun pace of happenings. I really liked the first season and the pace it operated at. Now the reason for that was there was definitely more mystery in the first season whereas this season everything seems to be on the table.

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>>79740007
Read the books.

They get real SJW/Jewy after the second book.

Like they go out of their way just to kike it up. "Look here is a interracial lesbian space couple where the bull dyke is actually a priest who beats up wife beaters in her spare time goy! How progressive!"

Like I read the third book then looked up who actually wrote the book. Of course (((they))) did.

Also Amos is the real hero of the story. Everyone else is a preening faggot or a camp follower.

>>79746268

doesn't this shit ever get boring for you?

>>79746311
It's a good complaint and it's sad if it happens to the show.

>>79740587
>Not watching The Man in the High Castle
>Not watching Mr. Robot
>Not watching Westworld
>Not watching real fucking Kino.

kys my man.

>>79743287
I'm sad that the other guy they started with died...

I forgot his name can someone tell me who he is again. The one that got hit by a space debris when they were held captive inside the martian ship desu

>>79746156
The 100 picks up on season 2 and It's the closest sci-fi to The Expanse. You'll have to endure S1 tho cause its full of cheese.
Magicians > The 100 > Colony

>>79746177
idk but my chickas love it.

>>79746355

That was the Martian marine who escorted them IIRC.

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>>79746311
I just want my sci fi without a fucking agenda.

Is that so wrong?

>>79746268
as long as they don't turn amos into some fag in denial or crossdresser or some shit i'll be happy

he's fucking awesome

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wtf is this shit?
they thought she's a dyke?

>>79746383
I'm talking about their inhouse medic.

>>79746458
oh good god

>>79746435
Yeah...

Thing about that...

>>79746507
JUSTTT

>>79745751
>sjws cast pick of middling women of color

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>>79745751
Julie followed by the old Persian lady

>>79743420
Orange is the New Black is very good both as a comedy and a drama. Never gets boring

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>>79746383
>>79746459
Found him.

His name's Shed Garvey

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Poor Nauvoo. Built to take the Mormons elsewhere, and was stolen before it could do that. Then couldn't accomplish the new mission it was given.

>>79746630
They should have known better than to trust the skinnies.

>>79746630
Since fred johnson said it was an engine test they probably got their ship back

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Goddamn this episode was amazing. One of my all time favorite episodes of any show.

>>79745751
How can white women even compete?

>dat 3, 5 and 6

>>79743488
>>79743568
>>79746568


Jesus christ you guys. Agents of Shield and OITNW? You have to be trolling at this point.

The 'lake ' part in OITNW lol. That's some of the worst stuff I've ever seen. Some of the earlier parts of the show were alright, but even back then Piper was insufferable and it wasn't owhere near as funny or as hard-hitting as it tried to think it was

>>79745751

2, 5, 6, 7

another reason why I love this show

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>>79746568
Master bait mate.

>>79745751
I want Chrisjen to insult and humiliate me

Taboo was fucking ridiculous and not in a good way.

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>>79745283
>>79744793
>>79744720

She looks a lot like a grown up raffey cassidy

I unironically like all the accents in the series. Makes it feel like a real world.

>>79746820
Yea, And set design is top tier, and so are equipment design, makes it feel even more real

>>79746674
Piper is supposed to be insufferable white girl #514, because the woman she's based on is exactly as annoying as her. The show probably has the best supporting cast I can think of out of any TV series I've seen desu. Can you really say the character backstories (especially in S4) aren't amazing?

>>79746879
Then you haven't seen Twin Peaks, The Wire, Sopranos, Six Feet Under, Seinfeld.

>>79745949

Anon, I...

>>79746820
why would a random martian chick have a new zealander accent?

>>79745949
No, they're dead.

>>79746948
>>79746995

JUST

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>>79745751
added beltwhore

>>79746954
On mars the little enclaves held onto the accents their first settlers brought.

For instance Alex has that Texas drawl because he grew up on a piece of mars where it was all Texans originally, even though he is a street shitter.

>>79746954

Mars was founded by scientists, new zealand might have had some good scientists.

>>79746954
because mars has colonists are from all around the world.

>>79740007
Watched like 5 mins of it last night before I fell asleep

why she screem at electro energy man?

>>79747012

Drummer is best

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Is he /ourguy/ ?

>>79747213
literally me irl

>>79746673
wtf they are purposefully put bad pictures on the internet about the white girls. Seriously can't google a decent pic about Hillman and the other blondie

>>79740007

absolutely

i marathonned all the eps in one sitting, fucking loved it and im hungry for more

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>tfw no protomolecule gf
;__;

>>79746268
Why it's so easy to brainwash people nowadays
All it takes is a website

>>79747424
I'm glad for Miller. He actually got to be with his waifu.

>>79747213
>the pedophile analogy
topkek, after spending time here it's fuckin true

what was amos up to in the past?

>>79747749
He was a piss poor individual who survived
That's about it

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>>79746268
It must really suck being unable to enjoy anything.

>>79747749
All I know is that he's from Baltimore and it sucks even more in the future.

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>>79746397
Yes.

>>79747569
At least isis guys get sex out of their deal

>>79745836
Havelock is going to come back around season 4

Did Miller kiss Julie in the book? This is a very important question.

>Waiting for s2 to end before I watch it
>Don't actually remember what happened in s1
How important is s1

>>79742987
Fucking Holden, Naomi, and pretty much everyone except Amos/Miller can't play for shit.
But I believe Holden's actor is such a retarded choice for a lead, he personally turns people away from the show.
He's like a lobotomized Harrington clone. I'm willing to ignore school-tier acting by side characters, but...
Plus the show is already past the point of somewhat believeable universe, and is heading straight into sci-fantasy with magical protomolecule portals.

>>79743568
>watches shows for emo teen girls
>complains about sci-fi fanboys
Get a hold of yourself, nigga.

>>79746820
I liked the well-spoken courier.

>We must seize the means of production, mon.

>>79748122
this. adding dawes to that meager list.

>>79748016

>How important is s1

This isn't an anothology show, watch it.

>>79747012
Does Fred Johnson's right hand gal have a big rack?

>>79743356
How do you know they didn't decelerate before reaching Venus? The high speed was just to avoid the missiles and the Roci.

>>79747749
He had dealings with pedophiles before, obviously. Maybe he had to bait one at some point to get leverage on him.

>>79745814
Part of me wants to believe that they are somehow surviving as part of a proto-molecule mind on Venus, slowly terraforming the planet. But then I realize if that were true nothing could stop it from wiping out humanity so I don't want to believe that anymore.

They are dead.

>>79748122

each to their own.. I love all the choices apart from maybe Naomi,but she's not bad, she's just way too short..
amos is fucking great and Wes nailed the role, Alex is fantastic.
i didn't like Holden at first but now I see what they are doing with him I really like it. When he shot down the medic ship it clicked, he's basically doing a Jack Bauer character arc, he'll get more dirty and he's not going to shy away from doing what needs to be done.

Th only choice I'm not a fan of is the UN woman Aviserala [spelling?]. I like the idea but often you can really tell she's just cluelessly reciting a script, she doesn't sell the government official role at all

>>79742987

Not much is GOT level is you're talking about the earlier seasons. From 5 onwards though and when they started freeballing it? I'd say thins show beats out the later GOT seasons . It's at least on the same level.

>>79748413
That's not how physics works. If the ship was docking with a section of the station that is rotating then it would have to be constantly burning, giving the ship artificial gravity.

>>79742830
top fucking kek amos

>>79748463

they only get gravity when accelerating

the thing is not rotating fast at all so it would only take a microsecond to match the speed

small amount of acel wouldnt even generate 1g and that small amount of time wouldn't do much

>>79747424
>Miller actually picked up an alien lifeform
damn he's smooth

>>79746086
Dawes has a long absence, then the best and most emotional arc in book 6 imo.

>>79748538
Then the frames are out of order, bcause the Rocinante has already matched spin and Miller is still floating. The frame order implies they only feel gravity when the docking arms attach.

>>79747096
Drummer and Julie
rest is not even close

>>79748011
he kisses her hand

This was the best episode so far.

>>79740007
I have no life and just finished remarathoning some of my favorite shows and am looking for new ones to watch.

What's this about? Can somebody give me a quick rundown?

>>79748933
>What's this about? Can somebody give me a quick rundown?
buzzcuts, fedoras and edgy detective

>>79748867
I figured as much. The context of Miller's relationships with her isn't romantic, it's admiration. He spent his entire life serving the corporation and here comes this Earther kid who is willing to give up everything to serve the belt. It inspires most of his actions in the series so far.

>>79748688

possibly but they're on the outside perimeter of the spin they'd have to be flying on a curved path

I'm interpretting it they lined up going in on a tangent and matched speed, locked when they intersected and got mechanically pulled into the rotation

if not, possibly the scenes could be out of order who knows but it's definitely something they considered but specifically wanted he shot of him falling ungracefully because he's a fish out of water so bent the rules a bit

>>79745751
0 pls

>>79748933
Game of Thrones IN SPACE except instead of kingdoms its planets and instead of white walkers its ayys

>>79748933
a space ship crew gets involved in a scheme to get earth and mars to go to war with each other, another character tries to figure out what happened to a girl that went missing

that's the basics, just watch it, you'll be hooked quickly

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>>79748933
Hard science fiction TV series about a Cold War turning hot from the perspective of a some cargo haulers aboard a stolen Martian stealth ship. Also physics violating alien spores stacking Armageddon on top of Armageddon.

>>79749066
We saw the spin but we didn't see the Rocinante moving relative to the spin, implying they were spinning along with the ring (despite seemingly not burning from the look of both Miller and the engines).

Plus it would be stupid for having docking arms literally catching ships instead of ships piloting to docking arms. It would put a lot of strain on both the ship and the arms, to say nothing of it screwing up the motion of the space station and the hab ring rotation. Space stations need to take extra effort to cancel out motion like that. That's why the International Space Station weight lifting rig for the crew had to be specially designed to not cause any torque on the station.

I'm willing to ignore small stuff like this, but I just wanted to be clear that it wasn't well thought out. They could have accomplished all their cinematic goals simply by showing the Rocinante starting a burn right before the docking arms start catching it, queuing Miller falling.

I didn't realize how much this show meant to me until the very last episode. Man, I'm gonna miss Miller.

>>79749701
the protomolecule does to miller what it did to julie, so we'll get miller back, sort of

>>79748463
>>79748538
>>79748688
>>79749066

you're all retarded

miller falls on the floor of the roci, the floors of ship in the expanse are built like a skyscraper, only DE/ACCELERATION along the ships CENTER AXIS gives the ship "gravity".

The ship has already bled off "forward" speed (given by the ships main engine along the center axis). There is no ACCELERATION ALONG THE CENTER AXIS (i.e. no gravity). It just need to match the stations slow LATERAL MOVEMENT using its manoeuvring thrusters (i.e. not center axis). The ship does not experience "gravity" while matching lateral movement because the lateral acceleration generated to match the station is so small and for so little time it isn't even felt.

Once the ship is clamped the stations centrifugal force is imparted to the roci, and as the ship is facing the center of spin, that centrifugal force acts along the CENTRAL AXIS basically giving the ship "gravity".

The crew would normally all be belted into crash couches for any maneuver but its obvious the writers wanted show miller's ineptitude in space.

>>79749701
Just rewatch Watchmen. He's basically Rorschach.

the game is pretty mediocre, which means it's one of the best shows airing today. Definitely one of the best sci fi shows around.

Oh and the Miller arc and ending were done very bravely. They weren't afraid to be morbid and it was such a fucking refreshing thing to see today when all the fucking shows are screen tested to the max. Congrtats to them for at least doing that.

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>>79749815
Julie Ayylmao is the perfect blend of horror and beauty. Both the scenes and the actress.

>>79749808
Now he's basically Dr Manhattan.

>>79749808
You have no clue what noir is do you faggot?

>>79749747
>calls other retarded like a child
>screws up the physics regardless
The station is spinning for a reason. Anything moving at that distance from th estation's central axis at that speed would experience something approaching 1g. The ship would therefore have to be burning at 1g to keep up with the rotation.

It's that or the Rocinante was moving in a straight line and then was caught by the station, which is not at all apparent given it was stationary relative to the spin of the station.

Think about it.

>>79749870
>agree with anon
>call him a faggot anyway
Are you jacking off right now to disagreeing with someone on the internet?

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>>79749452

it's not that jarring, it's a pretty smooth motion.

If the ship was to match the curve of the spin it would need to be doing a constant outward as well as forward burn, and we can see from the outside shot that it's not doing that, it's just making minor adjustments to fine-tune its path

the station is large it would not be rotating that fast to be generataing 1g, its not a stretch to imagien the arms and ship can handle

the whole bod of the ship holds together in 20g in the new episode and the dock would obviously be reinforced

>>79749924
Yeah, your mom is throwing a free striptease show.

>>79749924
>the only noir example he can think of is capeshit

Kys yourself in death

>>79749939
I said you were jacking off to disagreeing with someone over the internet, not a woman, you illiterate mouth breather!
Also her stream isn't for hours.

>>79749747

>calls people retarded
> they only get g along the centre axis!

any acceleration will give them g... see the battle in episode 2 where they for the high g manouvre and amos goes flying about.

The only reason the gravity is usually lined up with the cental axis is because they are usually accelerating or decelerating along the same axis

>>79749980
I know nigga, I'm the lights and camera guy.

>>79749931
I suppose if the station was fuckhuge enough it wouldn't matter. They have mass moving around the station all the time within messing up the distribution tug of catching a ship and its mass throwing off the ring probably is fixable. I wonder if the ring has a rail system full of counterweights constantly moving around to keep the weight distribution of the ring even.

Regardless, It's still an oddly risky maneuver. If I were designing a station I would have them dock in the zero g central column and if they had to dock on the ring then I would have them match the acceleration of the ring such that there would be no risk of them missing and having to do it all over worse colliding with the ring and fucking up the docking arms.

Don't chase da aqua

>>79750077
Caught you. She does everything herself. She went to college and took courses on film and lighting and shit. You are just lying to not sound like an idiot getting mad about literally nothing.

Streamers don't even have lighting people. If they did it would be an actual porno, kid.

>>79750262
Man those hours spent on "courses" were her fucking a midget in a clown suit and a fatman in a diaper.

our mom was being doubleteamed by Preston Lacy and Weeman, yes

>>79748459
I don't have an issue with the character, I have an issue with how amateurish and forced the acting and dialogue are.
There is a huge number of b-list actors who do shit like direct-to-TV movies and are therefore available and cheap, who'd fit the role better and who CAN act already.

Holden's actor is all-around shitty.

>>79743035
Who is this?

>>79743363
>why don't i just fucking watch blade runner?
because you know it bores the shit out of you anytime you try to watch it?

>>79749884
>The station is spinning for a reason.
Are you saying the station is spinning so that docking ships have to keep up with its "spin" so they have G before and during docking?

G is a measure of acceleration, not speed. As the rotational speed of the station is constant, and your speed is the same (i.e. constant, no acceleration) why would you feel any G?

>>79750002
thanks for taking what i said out of context, and did you not read

>while matching lateral movement because the lateral acceleration generated to match the station is so small and for so little time it isn't even felt.

i.e. there is lateral acceleration (ergo: G) but not enough to throw miller to the floor as depicted

I'm explaining this docking procedure, not combat manoeuvring.

>>79746155
>implying he is really dead

>>79750656
http://elestimulo.com/ub/saoli-sabatini-muneca-de-porcelana/

Goku needing 25 episodes to go to Namek
THAT was realistic

>>79751066
shut up nerd

>>79746155
I read the books. He isn't dead he become an alien hybrid.
Dies in the 3rd book tho

>>79750825
The g is a function of speed and distance from axis of rotation. Also big G refers the gravitational constant. Little g refers to Earth gravity.

>>79751161
*The acceleration is a function of...

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Why has noone made a webm of Eros hitting Venus? I thought that was the most impressive visual of the show. You know what? Most impressive space visual in all tv history actually. It looked so real!

>>79751239
>why has noone made a webm
>doesn't make a webm
>posts a still

how does it feel to be cancer?

>>79751239
I'm just happy there is an anon making webms at all.

>>79749849
That body is tight. Miller has good taste.

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Does the book explain what was going on in Sadavir Errinwright's head when his partner's science experiment almost wiped out most of the human race and destroyed Earth ecosystem for thousands if not millions of years?

>>79746665
It probably fell into the sun

>>79751192
The acceleration is a function of speed and distance from axis of rotation

wat??????????????????????

acceleration is just the rate of change of velocity of an object with respect to time

but it doesn't even matter, because neither the station or the ship are accelerating after "matching" spin. They have different speeds, but the speeds aern't changing for either vessel.

>>79746268
I admit I did find the lesbo priest to be some pretty heavy handed "look how progressive we are" stuff but by no means does it ruin the story.

I guess it bugged my mostly just because they introduce stuff like polygamous families, like Holden has multiple parents, but they explain that it's something that came about largely due to birth restrictions and the difficulty of buying land on Earth and that's actually an interesting thought, it's not just like "lol this the future so obviously everybody is gay/trans/polygamous I mean come on" Alex even comments on Holden's family being weird to him.

But the lesbian priest was totally just them going "look how progressive we are!" in no way did it serve the story for her to be gay.

>>79751473

Wonder if Grandmama bugged his office, kind of hoping Ashur caps him next episode

>>79751573
Acceleration is a function of distance from the axis of spin and the speed of the spin. That acceleration is the number of g's you experience.

>>79747749
bookfag here, spoilers

He grew up in a slum in Baltimore his mother was a prostitute and he was born illegally, Earth has tight birth restrictions due to over population. It is heavily implied he was forced into child prostitution for a time and basically grew up doing all sorts of criminal shit. He returns to Baltimore later and confronts an old friend who is now leader of the gang Amos used to be a part of

>>79748367
Nah Amos is spoiler/the son of a whore who was fiddled as a child sex worker/spoiler

>>79751814
nice spoilers faggot

>>79751473
I've read all the books and honestly can't remember. I don't think they give you much insight on him...

Our number one UN GILF is going to replace him though after him and Mao are exposed, Mao goes to prison and I can't remember if Errinwright does as well or dies.

>>79751473
The UN characters aren't introduced until the second book which takes place after Eros

Rankings
1) Miller
2) Amos
3) Indian milf
4) Fred Johnson
5) Julie Ayylmao
6) Alex El Piloto
7) Dead Martian Marine man
8) Dawes
9) Naomi
10) Holden

>>79751579
I mean I could swallow a girl being the baddest motherfucker in the book. She is a Maori and everyone is on hgh/steroids since birth plus the power armor and the Martian culture. Fine. Whatever. But then Naomi is some super genius African girl... ok... and the leader of earth is some street shitter woman who goes out of her way to degrade men and it's supposed to be funny. Hold up not done.

Now they drop in the coal burning lesbian priest who BTFO wife beaters in her spare time who is also hot pretty much the only """good""" character in the book.

Oh and the white male characters? One is a molested sociopath and the other is a slacker loser who only rose to prominence through sheer luck.

Just fuck off with those kikery already.

>>79751983
You poor lost soul.

>>79751829
Shit sorry. Total accident.

>>79752017
Sorry for what?

>>79751983
Really only found the gay priest woman to be silly.

I have no problem with the other characters. Indian GILF lady is the best character in the books and show after Miller.

You've swallowed too much of /pol/'s kool aid friend, maybe go outside for a while huh?

>>79751691
>Acceleration is a function of distance from the axis of spin and the speed of the spin

But you would only accelerate to match the speed of docking clamp, once you match that speed you cut acceleration, no gravity, miller floats until the dock grabs the roci

>>79752076
/pol/acks are literally muslims in every way.

>>79752080
As I said earlier, either:
A) They are constantly burning to keep up with the spin of the ring to safely and easily dock.
B) They are going in a straight line and the docking clamps have to catch the ship.

Both are physically possible. However the Rosinante is stationary relative to the ring when we see the docking arms moving towards it. Furthermore it seems needlessly hairy having the ship only be able to dock for a split second before it passes the docking arms trying to catch it.

>>79751960
>show rankings
Miller
Indian milf
Amos
Crush ass to dust kid
Dawes
everybody else
Holden
Bobbie

>book rankings
Miller
Indian milf
Amos
Dawes (book 6 pushes him way up)
Fred
Alex
Bobbie
Prax
all the great characters/people that only stick around for 1 book
Naomi
Holden

Holden a shit in books and show. Bobbie is pretty cool in the books but they're fucking her up so far. Miller and UN Grandma are the best in the books and they really nailed their casting in the show so I'm glad they got that right. Amos' actor is really getting it now too.

>>79752149
well its obviously a), can't you see the manoeuvring thrusters? But its not constant, and the acceleration from each corrective burn is so tiny and for such a short period of time, you don't feel anything

>>79752061
For the failed spoiler blackout.

>>79752425
The problem is that if that's the case then the frames are out of order. Miller is still floating even when the Rosinante is stationary relative to the ring and waiting for the docking arms to clamp. The scene wasn't well thought out, else they would have shown the Rosinante starting a 1g burn right before Miller falls.

>>79743363
Interesting. Episodic bullshit is my least favorite thing in a tv show. Sounds as if I'd like this then.

>>79752559
Zero g scenes would either be extremely expensive or look cheesy as fuck cgi.

They are doing the best they can, I mean it's a second string show on a third string network.

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>>79741365
You missed the best Martian's speech, interrogation scene, and a breddy gud battle.

>>79751756
I mentioned it in a previous thread but apparently the actor was reading the first book just for fun when he was called in to audition. Once he had the role, he paid a shrink to read the novella about Amos' past and tell him how that'd translate into adult behavior and mindset.

Wes Chatham, I think is his name. He mentioned this in one of the podcasts about the show. Have to respect paying that much attention to a TV role in order to do it justice.

>>79752634
>Zero g scenes would either be extremely expensive or look cheesy as fuck cgi.
That has nothing to do with it. They literally showed Miller in zero g for that scene. I'm saying they could have made the scene make sense with no additional effort.

>>79752559
If the roci is stationary relative to the ring and waiting for the clamps to dock, miller SHOULD be floating

Can you explain how miller would experience gravity if the roci is stationary and undocked?

Why would the roci do a 1g burn?

>>79752694
That's pretty cool. I definitely think he's getting it down good. There was a post on reddit where a person did some psych analysis on Amos and Chatham retweeted it.

It was actually surprisingly in depth and reasonable too for armchair psychology of a fictional character. Basically said Amos is an autist with PTSD and I think that's a pretty good summary. He's very distant and doesn't necessarily enjoy violence but doesn't think anything of killing someone who threatens him or people he cares about. Survival of himself and people he likes are more important than any "moral" issue to him.

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>autists can't stop arguing about the physics of an inconsequential docking procedure

>>79752877
>If the roci is stationary relative to the ring and waiting for the clamps to dock, miller SHOULD be floating
The ring is spinning. If the Rocinante is stationary relative to the ring then it's because it is doing a burn to keep up.

By stationary I mean if someone in the ring looks down through a glass floor or something they will see the Rocinante stationary.

>>79743363
not an argument

>>79745751
pls be 2
pls be 2
pls be 2

5 and 8 are fine too

also should have the police captain instead of blue goo

>>79745751

Honestly can't lose

>>79745751
Bobbie pls

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>>79753449
Fuck

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So the proto-molecule created a Alcubierre Drive. Neat.

>>79745751
welp

>>79745751
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoMgnJDXd3k

>>79743363
>TV shouldnt be a 20 hour movie, it should be episodic, fun.
How does it feel to live in the 90s, pampaw?

>>79753486
Pretty much. The blue goo is a path to many abilities some consider to be unnatural...

>>79753586
I can't figure out how it produced all that energy though. Unless Eros had those megajoules of fuel just laying around.

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>>79746155

i could swing around those digits

>>79746435
>>79746268

Joke's on you, /pol/tard, Amos was most probably raped as a kid just like Guts, and in one episode in S1 he defends a gay whore.

>>79753628
e=mc^2, kopeng

>>79753628
It must've manufactured some sort of generator and/or used the existing reactors on Eros.

>>79753628
It's going to do more crazy stuff and much of it is not explained in the book, it's basically presented as "holy shit these aliens were so advanced this shit is like magic to us!"

By the 6th book humans have started to adapt things learned from alien stuff into their technology but it's all fairly basic stuff, they make a new stronger, lighter ceramic material built by studying the thing the goo is going to build and they genetically engineer some yeast that can photosynthesize high energy radiation from studying how the goo thrives on it the seemingly physics defying stuff remains beyond human understanding though at least thus far.

they do use some alien magic to defeat the bad guy of book 6 though they don't really understand how it works, they just figure out that it works. It was kinda anti climactic in the book but I think it'll be pretty cool on screen actually if the show lasts that long.

>>79753836
>It's going to do more crazy stuff and much of it is not explained in the book, it's basically presented as "holy shit these aliens were so advanced this shit is like magic to us!"
>hard sci-fi
>introduce alien voodoo magic

I just wanted space politics

>>79753869
It doesn't really detract from the story imo.

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>>79751473
>My feet hurt
>I wish I was building stealth ships right now
>How will this effect my re-election chances, if most of the electorate is wiped out?

>>79746630

RIP that one tug that got too close to the Nauvoo's engine.

Would you crash on Venus for your waifu?


Would you put your dick in that blue goo?

>>79746268
Ca confirm this. I'm currently powering through the boring pile of shit that is the third book and every one of the priest's chapters has been like sticking needles into my eyeballs. I really, really hope the 4th book will be worth what I've put myself through.

>>79753211
>doing a burn to keep up.

What?

space has no air resistance, once you've reached a certain speed you will stay at that speed unless something else acts on it, you don't need a burn to keep up. Your burn to match speed would already be finished well before the docking clamps engaged, so everything is in order.

Are you saying the manoeuvring thrusts are doing 1G?

>>79747424
>finding your waifu and dying in her arms

There are worse ways to go desu

>>79754042
Read all books and 3 is the worst imo.

4 was fun, feels like a western.

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>>79754077
>3 was the worst
>4 was fun

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>>79753962
Yes to both. Only a faggot would say no.

>>79754049
Yes this is what he's not getting, once they get themselves stationary relative to the station they don't need to do anything to "keep up". They won't be under thrust anymore and thus 0 G, aside from the maneuvering thrusters but that's not going to be noticeable.

Did Proto-Julie deactivate Miller's nuke when he had her touch it?

>>79754159
That's what it looked like to me

>>79754103
Just to be sure I don't have them mixed up 3 is the one set in the slow zone with Melba trying to kill Holden and 4 is the one mainly set on the alien planet with the little colony correct?

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>ywn fuck amos tight boipussy and make him feel like at the places he grew up at again

>>79754198
That is correct

>>79754049
Objects don't just orbit nothing. If you want it to keep up with the SPINNING ring then there has to be thrust to keep up. You can't just say "I want to orbit that empty point in space" and then magically go from moving in a straight line to moving around that point.

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>tfw I enjoy the space politics and world building more than I enjoy the misadventures of the Rocinante crew

>>79754129
You have to keep up with the spin of the station. You won't just magically spin along with it. The only think keeping the station from flying apart is the tension on the structure itself. If not for whatever cables reinforcement the station has it would fly apart. For the Rocinante to keep up with the spin it would either have to be attached to the spinning section of station or it would have to be burning to keep up.

>>79754449
Me too.

>>79754449
MCRN will show you who's boss

>>79754575
yeah, and it definitely won't be a cis white male!

>>79754575
Regolith nigger.

>>79754295
Ok then I stand by my assessment

Book 3 a shit, book 4 a fun adventure

How could not like it when Holden gets down into the inside of the planet and proto Miller reveals to him that the whole thing is a fucking gas station, these aliens terraformed an entire planet just to make a gas station where they could refill their ships on Lithium

>>79754518
Do you think the space station needs to constantly "keep up" with Earth?

It does make occasional use of maneuvering thrusters but that's it.

>>79754758
>Do you think the space station needs to constantly "keep up" with Earth?

Maybe I'm not following this thread of thought correctly, but you do know how orbits work, right?

>>79742830
>dat preview
Autism.webm

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>>79754575

>ctrl f the word "book"
>21 results

nope the fuck out from this thread

>>79754406
>>79754518
you guys can't >imblyign that those 0.5 second thruster corrections would give 1G (!!) acceleration, and even if they did, in that case miller would go flying into the wall/corner, not straight into the floor

also the roci is only following its spin for like 4 seconds

>>79754758
well earth has its own gravity, tycho doesn't

>>79754946
>kill 17 science personell
>still feels superior and righteous

fucking earther scum should hang

>>79754968
>well earth has its own gravity, tycho doesn't
>implying a massive body can not have gravity

It would be mad weak tho

>>79745751

rollin

>>79754600
Are you still bitching about that?

>>79754758
The Rocinante wasn't orbitting the space station. The space station doesn't have nearly enough mass and if it did then it wouldn't need the spinning habitation ring.

>>79754968
If the Roci accelerated at 1 g then he would indeed simply fall to the floor, which is what happened to him. You have to remember that it's a flying tower, with the front being up to the crew. It's main engines are at the very bottom of the ship.

>>79754976
it wasn't even a real moon, fuck it

>>79755273
it was a moon to 9 billion people

>>79755322
>Martians
>people
pick one

>>79755354
>Martians
Go beyond race, religion, ethnicity to strive for something greater than themselves. Strong willed, most intelligent minds in the system.

>Earthers

24/7 chimpouts, everyone on gibsmedats, squandered their planet and can't even sustain themselves without the Belt

>>79755429
>most intelligent minds in the system
>half of them are niggers

Yeah sure thing pal

>>79755429
>Martians
fascist scums
>Earthers
commie scums
>Belters
freedom fighters

beltalowda4life

Fun fact, the Asteroid Belt is collectively only 4% the mass of the Moon.
It really needs an alternate name to distinguish it from all other asteroid belts, like the Moon has Luna and the Sun has Sol.

>>79746397
Yes you fucking idiot sci fi has always been progressive

>>79755525
Typical Earther racist scumbag. The system would be better off with you all glasses.

>>79755558
Yea the mass of big worlds is immense compared to asteroids
The idea that we would mine in the belt and ship it anywhere is stupid crap

>>79753869

the existance of alien life forms out in the universe somewhere is pretty much accepted in real life even, why would their existance in a tv show show it from being hard sci-fi?

if there are avanced aliens, there is no guarantee that their tech is going to make sense to us

there is no guarantee that they will conform to our ideas of space and relativity either, it's very likely that our understanding of the universe would be blown apart

>>79755429
Earth gets to be lazy because at the end of the day everyone still needs them.

future spoilers Earth eventually gets fucked by a radical belter organization and everyone realizes what a bad fucking idea it was to attack Earth. It's still by far the biggest source of allot of food and organic materials that can only be grown here

Sorry m8 but your desolate red wasteland will never compare to the glorious true home of humanity.

>>79746397
So go watch some grimdark shit about how humanity is nothing but a bunch of scumbags for all eternity, else it is fundamentally progressive.

>>79751919
Really ? Why ?

>>79755611
>The idea that we would mine in the belt and ship it anywhere is stupid crap
Not really. Asteroids contain more valuable heavy metals than the Earth's or any planet's crust. All of the planets heavier materials sank to their cores billions of years ago. That's why we only find the really valuable stuff like gold in volcanic veins.

>>79755666
? You can't say shit like that before we have any idea of what sort of resources there are in asteroids

>>79755711
Yes I can say shit like that because it's simple physics and geology. The elements available to us are inarguably lighter than the elements ubiquitous to asteroids because Earth underwent a filtering of sorts, where all the heavier elements sank to the bottom of the Earth. That's why gold is so rare and why we will never run out of aluminum. Asteroids never underwent that so they hare necessarily full of heavier elements than Earth's crust is. Stuff like gold, silver, platinum, uranium all will be more prevalent in asteroids.

>>79755711
>he thinks we don't know what's in asteroids

http://www.asterank.com/
http://www.universetoday.com/95169/the-most-profitable-asteroid-is/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/abigailtracy/2015/07/20/these-are-the-priciest-asteroids-in-the-galaxy/#383039a03cfc

they contain lots of valuable metals m8, mining them is a very realistic prospect. Certainly better than mining Earth.

>>79755832
Thats nonsense, vast quantities of shit has fallen to the earth, and there is plenty of movement around inside the earth too

There is enough supply to fill all demand for elements. Most of the earth surface hasn't been explored at all, plus you could mine much deeper if you wanted

>>79755849
The main problem is those heavily invested in gold, silver, or the mining industry will do whatever it takes to make sure space mining never becomes a thing. If we go back to the gold standard then no one would allow space mining to happen. If we dicovered an asteroid with more gold than has ever been mined on Earth then the value of gold with plummet and fortunes would disappear overnight.

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>>79755989
>go back to the gold standard

>>79755955
>implying most of the Earth's crust is made out of meteorites rather than material convected up from the mantle

>There is enough supply to fill all demand for elements.
Except you're wrong. There is a tremendous demand for some metals, like gold, silver, and platinum. That's why they are so expensive.

Furthermore exponential growth means exponential demands for resources. I'm sure people thought petroleum was unlimited at one time too, and yet here we are needing to resort to more expensive oil shale, which itself won't last forever.

The ocean floor is also just as difficult if not more difficult to mine than space. Once space based operations are fueled and perhaps even built in space from space based resources it won't be expensive at all to mine asteroids. The growth of the industry will become exponential. Every mined asteroid will spawn five more mining operations.

>>79755955
Its not so much about earth not having enough its just human nature to always want more. You think were just gonna stay here forever because earth is adequate?

We're gonna mine those asteroids m8 and we're gonna use those resources to expand beyond earth.

Yes earth has "enough" but since when are people ever satisfied with "enough".

>>79756195
We just keep biggering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpgUQYARIsw

>>79752889
>doesn't necessarily enjoy violence but doesn't think anything of killing someone who threatens him or people he cares about. Survival of himself and people he likes are more important than any "moral" issue to him.

W-wait. This is considered a PSTD autist's worldview? I thought everyone had this kind of worldview. Except moralfags, perhaps.

>>79756249
to be fair though doing it to explore the stars is different than doing it to have bigger office. Also mining the asteroids is better than mining the earth, they don't have ecosystems to get fucked up.

New thread when?

>>79756483
Isn't civilization sort of like a huge metaphorical office though? Both are just a person's/humanity's space to get shit done.

But yeah, there is nothing wrong with growth or never being completely satisfied. The video paints it negatively but that's only when it goes to far, not the growth itself but the mentality. The growth is self defeating if you grow one think like a parking lot into a rainforest and then you run out of air to breath.

Not much in space to ruin though.

>>79756493
There's a newer one here >>79752565

>>79755525
Martians have the most advanced tech in the system and the best equipped Navy.