The best postmodern movie.

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>postmodern

>>79625099
>postmodern

what exactly do you mean by this

>>79625162
It shows what italian culture has become.
Mixing beutiful architecture nature and hostory with awful party music and disgusting world of celebreties.

Do you see cocks?

>>79625500
"Italian culture"
what does this mean?

>>79625500
If you think Sorrentino doesn't enjoy the "awful party music" and he's being ironic/cynical in its application, you're watching his films completely wrong

>>79625500
How is that postmodern?

>>79627066
That party music was a remix of a classical italian song. And yes Sorrentino used it to show the decadance of italian culture.

>>79627095
Because you can see a contrast between the old and new. Between unpopular and popular.

>>79625099

Jesus what a film, one of my favorites, if anyone enjoyed this and wants more servillo you should definitely watch "consequences of love"

>>79626987
>>79626987
>>79626987
>>79626987

>>79627150
That's not the definition of postmodernism

>>79627126

He absolutely did not. IMO he used it show the dual personalities of all these characters, watch it again and tell me if servillo popping ecstasy and banging Stacy royalty is the same as servillo having tea with his midget boss or walking through the old streets of Rome and meeting his "real friends" and reminiscing about the girl he lost his virginity to. It's an absolute master piece in how all these different characters behave in those two completely different words.

>>79627201
Thank you for the suggestion.

>>79627311
I can agree with this.

>>79627305
postmodernism is typically defined by an attitude of skepticism, irony, or distrust toward grand narratives, ideologies, and various tenets of Enlightenment rationality

>>79627497
also Il Divo

>>79627554
You got that from wikipedia, as well as the fact that has nothing to do with what you said previously.

>>79628307
Yes i got it from wiki. And is it so fucking difficult to understand that this movie ironically shows how art is so pretentious today?

>>79626987
>>79627246
Could someone please answer this question?

>>79625099
It's not postmodern though.

>>79627524

I actually do agree with your original point now that I think of it.... I don't think there was any positive portrayal of any of the hedonistic gatherings that took place in the film, even the comfy party with his new gf had the thing with the girl and her controlling parents

>>79628571
Yes

I think the socio-political stuff has obscured the heart of the film: simply being present in one's life, not being a cynical asshole, and planting and nurturing roots as in meaningful relationships. All the decadence and modern Rome and all that is just window dressing.

>>79629640
The movie can be about multiple things, especially this one. It's as much about our relationship with our time/culture/city as it is about the roles we play in the lives of people we meet and pass by over the years. Having both of those themes is important because they complement eachother

I think you're right in the sense that sorrentino wasn't making some sort of argument for or against anything modern as most of this thread seems to be arguing about

>>79629640
But it's like warching the conformist without political context it just doesnt make sense.

The end credits sequence is so hauntingly beautiful. That score or theme is perfect.

https://youtu.be/D0kJQmMaozs

Youth was a misfire but Paulo redeemed himself and more with Lil Pope'r

>>79628525
Stop using words like ironically and postmodern if you don't understand them. Go read Jameson's essays on postmodernism in cinema and learn something.

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>>79625099
>tfw can't find a subbed version anywhere

>>79630762
Saw it in italian, was pretty rough to understand with all the accents mixed up

>>79627011
The culture everybody else in Europe fucking stole.

I mean, La Dolce Vita is better (has a similar concept) but La Grande Bellazza is still a very very good film.

>>79631061
don't be bitter Mario

I'm really enjoying this thread guys.
We're having a beautiful discussion.

Aaaaaand it's dead.

>>79631217
>I'm really enjoying this thread guys.
>We're having a beautiful discussion.

Please can someone give me some good modern euro cinema? Last movies I watch were coffee in Berlin and this one and I loved them both. I don't mind the genre just as long as it's a good movie

>>79630509
Youth wasn't a misfire, you mong

>>79631504
Try some of Ben Wheatley's stuff, A Field In England was pretty good. Don't know if you would consider it European though.

>>79631504
The conformist
Byciclet thieves
Pidgeon sat on a branch reflecting on existence
Every Pasolini movie
The piano teacher.
Let me think of more.

>>79631725
Yes it was. Great discussion.

>>79631725
I dont know how i feel about that one.

>>79631926
It wasn't a misfire in any way.

>>79631969
A natural development of Sorrentino after LGB.

>>79632025

It was as visually magnificent as anything he's done, he's clearly an enormously gifted visual stylist. It worked scene to scene, as the acting and situations were poignant, but the script at large was a mess. No focus, all over the place, leaving the viewer with very little meaning or critical purchase.

>>79632025
I found it to be unsatisfying.

>>79625099
You would like to check this out for oscar predictions: >>79631858

>>79632092
Are you posting that in every thread, faggot?

>>79631886
>modern

Fyi for that poster modern Euro is trash.

>>79632949
I know they all classics more or less.

Give it to me straight Jack how is Sorrentino's American Sean Penn is The Cure movie?