/who/ - Doctor Who General - Mommy Who Edition

>>79058075
Only problem with Eva Green is that Tim Burton might want to direct or write an episode or two.

Otherwise, she's a great choice.

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>Peter Capaldi's done it. Paul McGann's done it. And now Mark Gatiss has offered his support for the campaign to have a female Doctor lead the charge in the 11th series of the Doctor Who revival.
>Within hours of Capaldi announcing his departure from the show, fans were already speculating about whether or not the 13th Doctor could be a woman – and Gatiss told Simon Mayo he thinks it'd be "fantastic".
>"I think it’d be really good for the show" he told Mayo on his BBC Radio 2 show. "It’s been back for 12 years which means it’s not the new kid on the block anymore, it’s not a revival, it’s been back for a long time."
>"It’s the sort of thing that would bring an amazing new audience to it," Gatiss continued, "I think it’d be fantastic. But who knows, it’s up to Chris Chibnall."

>Gatiss admitted he knew Capaldi's exit was coming, but didn't realise he'd hear about it on Jo Whiley's show.
>"I was very sad because I think he’s been absolutely brilliant," he said, "but I guess he’s going with Steven Moffatt so there’s a sort of symmetry to it, isn’t there?"
>And as for Gatiss, will he continue to write for Who when Moffatt leaves?
>"I don't know. I don’t live in Cardiff and I don’t have a permanent position around the table," Gatiss explained. "It’s one of those moments, you don’t know what’s happening".

RIP Gatiss Who

>>79058247
Why does Gatiss want a female Doctor? Because he's going to show up at Chibnall's office in his Val Denton getup and say, "I hear you're looking for a lady to play the Doctor?" And then she'll squeeze the Devil's Toad to guarantee she gets her heart's desire, and Chibnall will suddenly decide yes, Gatiss in drag is the new Doctor.

No fuck off

>>79058247
>Chibnall casts the best Doctor ever
>It's a man. The show is adored and gets x2 the viewers.
>Gatiss is ERASED and there's a live reveal show hosted by Zoe Ball where Gareth Roberts is revealed as a returning writer

>>79058247
Imagine if Chibnall's first season is 100% all new writers, that would be pretty exciting.

>>79058392
They should accept fan script submissions. If they want to kill the show.

>>79058391
>Gareth Roberts is revealed as a returning writer
why would anybody want that

Do not excite me like that, Eva Green as the doctor sounds like a dream.

>>79058433
>Eva Green as the doctor sounds like a dream.
why?

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>>79058433
>tfw you thought Tasha Lem was Eva Green since you saw half of the Penny Dreadful cast in Doctor Who
>tfw you thought she was the real semen demon from the doctor

>>79058569
>those seductive eyes
>her british accent
>she's good when changing genre roles in movies and series
>her whole classic british clothes in Penny Dreadful
>the lewd sexual tension with a shota companion

What if Moffat's big twist is that Missy is not the Master at all but the 13th Doctor...?

>>79058611
>What if Moffat's big twist is that Missy is not the Master at all but the 13th Doctor...?
Carry On Doctor Who. "I thought the Earth moved when we kissed, but it was just the Blinovitch Limitation Effect."

>>79058569
I relay like Eva Green.
>>79058598
this guy gets it.

>>79058611
would be really terrible, even for moffat's standards

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>>79058643
>tfw an episode of Missy visiting the mommy doctor in century 19 and both share the tea time together with those high sexual impact violence and adventure
>Missy all mad that she looks older than the doctor, both bitting themselves in a grumpy way

Jesus, Michelle Gomez and Eva Green, what a dream.

Wonder how they'll announce the new Doctor?

A live show?
A confidential?
A Twitter announcement?

https://www.instagram.com/p/BQAp4Rcjs8S/

!!!

>>79058854
I like the idea of doing it on the radio, Jo Whiley interviewx Olivia Coleman or something about Broadchurch and then...

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>>79058854
Maybe a live show, they invite Tennant, Smith and Capaldi to discuss how was it to act and live as the Doctor then Billie Piper, Jenna Coleman to discuss along with them and then in the last minutes of the show they ask to the actor/actress to appear in front of the cameras

>>79058946
"13th Doctor....REVEAL YOURSELF!"

*Mark Gatiss walks onto stage to the sound of a thousand boos*

13th will be black. I'm calling it now.

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>>79058391
>Gareth Roberts is revealed as a returning writer

Gareth detected

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yfw Mother of Dragons is New Who

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>>79059297
>yfw The Mother of Evil is New Who

Just got word that Doctor Who Magazine, due out on the 9th, went to the printers on the 27th, so it won't be covering either Hurt's death or Capaldi's departure

>>79058854
It'll be a rushed out youtube video filmed in McGanns basement set.

>>79059437
Unless they knew in advance

>>79058247
>Capaldi regenerates
>slowly the regeneration energy starts to fade out
>we see different parts of the new Doctor
>Capaldi's white hair is replaced by long curly blonde hair
>his chest has grown and we now see the shape of firm round breasts
>it's a woman
>camera slowly pans up
>introducing Mark Gatiss as the Doctor

>>79055625
"The Davies-era production-team has, for the last four years, insisted that an audience "needs" a connection with the modern world in order for SF to function. It believes this because it comes from a bizarre parallel universe where Star Wars isn't the most popular movie ever made."

He wrote this 9 years ago and it's still a fucking problem. Also

"only a competent scriptwriting team could ensure that, and in the Age of Chibnall, even competence is a precious commodity"

>>79060324
"it's no coincidence that the tabloid criticism of Martha eased off after "Human Nature", one of the scripts that doesn't treat her as a cartoon teenager who says things like 'no way!' every thirty seconds. I'm lookin' at you now, Gareth."

I wonder what Miles would say about Gareth now in light of recent events

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>>79059875

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Introducing boobs as the Doctor

If there was a female Doctor and she shagged one of the previous Doctors, could she have her own paradox-child?

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screencap this ,next doctor incoming (on the left)

>>79060581
Do Timelords even reproduce the same way as humans though?

>>79060657
safe to assume they do, Moffat and RTD didn't exactly adapt looms or anything.

This might sound fan-ficy but I would like it they reproduced via pods and genetic engineering, similar to the film Gattaca. I would fit with their strict society. You could even impy that something went wrong with the Doctor and perhaps thats why he never fit in.

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>>79060657
It's... a very long story. They didn't for millennia but apparently Leela and Andred had a kid and changed the way it works.

>>79060602
Comfy tv this
I miss Camille

>>79060602
Good choice imo, but there'd be too many screams of "Nooooo....not ANOTHER white male Doctor" from the pro-diversity mob.

>>79058107
>Tim Burton might want to direct or write an episode or two.
What's wrong with Tim Burton?

>>79059095
>Mark Gatiss walks onto stage to the sound of a thousand boos
This would be fucking great

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>>79058075
>implying the BBC could afford her

Too big a star now. Coincidentally, she was in a film with Matt Smith a few years back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdqcmqfhciw

>>79060602
I'd unironically love this. A great actor that can do both comedy and tragedy, and has that weird 'alien' look.

It's not going to be a woman. I can guarantee this. They wouldn't risk it given the current state of the show.

Might be for the one after though.

/who/ BTFO

>Predictable as ever, Doctor’, says the Master in the Doctor Who episode ‘The Deadly Assassin’. In a similar vein, the Guardian has followed the announcement that Peter Capaldi is leaving the series with not one but two articles about how the new Doctor must be a woman, black or preferably both. Because white males are boring! After all, it’s 2017. As the Hitler Youth said to the 19th-century humanists: ‘We don’t think like that anymore.’

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/make-doctor-who-a-black-woman-please-dont/19411

>>79061306
>the current state of the show.

Might not still be the mega hit in the UK that it was towards the end of Tennant's run, but it remains one of Britain's most watched dramas, and the last series was hugely praised by critics.

The real problem with Doctor Who has nothing to do with the gender or race of its actors. As Nicholas Barber notes in The Economist, the contemporary trend is for fictional universes to shrink around the private lives of their characters. Star Wars, James Bond and Sherlock have all lost whatever ambition they might once have had, and have turned into glorified family soap operas. Doctor Who has also been showing strong tendencies in this direction, with the parentage of River Song being a particularly drawn-out, dull and self-involved storyline.

Fact.

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>channeling Tom Baker intensifies

>>79061559
Where's Immigrant? I want to see him get triggered by the author's superior vocabulary and writing ability.

>>79061639
>the parentage of River Song being a particularly drawn-out, dull and self-involved storyline.

Erm. I started watching DW during series 5, and this storyline was what drew me into watching the show.

Once hooked, then caught up with all previous nuWho series, and many of the older series.

>>79061768
>this storyline was what drew me into watching the show
This has to be bait.

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>>79061768

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The Doctor dances.

>>79058392
And they're all shit. So your excitement would be short-lived.

>>79062069
>I'M. SHAKING MY BOOTY! *PHRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!*

Nardole is an anagram for A Lone Dr.

;^)

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New Doctor, coming through

Is this definite proof she's retarded?

https://twitter.com/wayneche/status/827519446810030080

>>79062166
Go rash b cyka blyat.

>>79062168
>https://twitter.com/wayneche/status/827519446810030080
She fucking annoys me. She blabbers on half the time about how white people are the literal Devil. I bet my money shes a fat welsh girl who hates le patriarchy and whitemen.

How the fuck did Nardole become so likable, I want him in every series 10 episode now! wtf I love Nardole now. What happened?

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"You're right, Adam. He really is utterly pathetic."

>>79062296
He is in every S10 episode according to Moffat

Apparently in one of the shooting scripts for Sherlock series 3, Moffat almost actually spoiled Euros a whole three years in advance

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>>79062161

>>79062247
She is fat
and white
but not welsh

>>79062311
Do you think Adam has photoshops of himself with all the Doctors in their prime. Sorta like a Clara echo

>>79062771
Pics?

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>not wanting Doctor Hayley
Didn't know there were so many fags on /tv/ desu

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>>79062311

>>79061639
This is correct

>>79062296
He was just so stellar in the christmas special.

>>79062247
stop obsessing over twitter

>>79061639
>Star Wars, James Bond and Sherlock have all lost whatever ambition they might once have had, and have turned into glorified family soap operas
>implying James Bond was ever ambitious
>implying Star Wars hasn't been a family soap opera since Episode VI

>you get to bring Eccleston and a side character for a 3 part episode

What do you do

>>79063322
Alternate universe 9th Doctor episode where Lynda Moss is the companion.

They fall through a crack in time and meet 12 and Nardole. Cyberman story, Nardole ends up getting upgraded.

>>79063103
>Episode VI
Now tell us the family soap opera parts in this, apart from 10 mins of Luke's Aunt and Uncle.

>>79062844
I, for one, am in love with Doctor Hayley already.

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>>79061791
Same anon as >>79061768

Not bait. Series 5 was 1st one I watched.The River Song character intrigued me.

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>>79058075
That's the wrong Mommy Who, OP.

hayley atwell won't be the 13th doctor, the odds of it being your chose is just unlikely, don't get your hopes it.

>Capaldi left weak and has no choice but to regenerate
>Missy tries to sabotage it
>they fight
>end up fusing
>becomes Hayley
>and a red head

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUVfLZB761A

13th Doctor!

>>79063721
>Don't get your hopes up
Too late.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROtEOGL9FJw

Chibnall cyberman plotline leaked

>>79063796
>eccleston was the best doctor
you can actually find some people who agree with that.

>>79063858
I think mainly because there were not enough room for error with his 1 season Doctor, all of it was his highlight reel, the subject was too small to compare to the other ones so most people will view him as positive

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>>79063573

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>>79063003
>tfw stalking so much you become Tom Baker

>>79063368
>10 mins of Luke's Aunt and Uncle.
You dyslexic m8? I said 6, not 4.

>>79063858
I know someone who has Eccs as a favorite.

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>>79064402
Me

>>79064604
Do you think he'll ever come back? Maybe for the 60th?

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>>79064713
I don't think so. I sort of like it better that way. He's getting older.

Although, I wish he would do Audio Dramas.

Guys Moffats going to do it isn't he? he's going to do a RTD Fanwank series 10 Finale and bring back all his characters, Captain Jack, 11, River, Amy and Rory, Tasha Lem, Clara and Ashildr.

>>79064909
No it will be a social commentary season with heavy handed messages about acceptance, equality and unity.

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>we used to talk about doctor who here
>now it's all retards shitposting some random skank

>>79058075
Has she done any youtube "hand expression" vids yet?

>>79065085
what are you on about, we're discussing Doctor Who right now.

>>79065259

Fuck yourself.

Probably a goddamned canadian, anyway.

>>79064909
That sounbds like typical Moffatt so definitely. Remember Missy came back literally one episode after she died.

>>79065085
Doctor Who got shit. Don't like it blame Moffat.

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>tfw you think it's time and you'd be fine with seeing a female doctor
>bbc and the lgbt crowd go full diversity mode and LITERALLY just want a female for some sort of moral victory
>can already hear the whining if the doctor is a white male

This kind of shit makes me not want a female Doctor, man. Why's it got to be a fucking moral battle every time?

>>79065453
Or blame yourselves for growing out of it or being slaves to RTD's vision

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>>79065357
Rude. Also Doctor Who was created by a Canadian.

Reminder we waited eleven months for this shit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kihByxFrnHs

Remember the days waiting for the 50th trailer.They were great

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Hi U.N.I.T., I'm the Doctor.

>>79065467

The left is literally incapable of not virtue signalling.

It's part of their mental illness.

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>>79065957
>no Dexter Doctor

>>79065997
Dexter master

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>>79066008
Doakes Master

>>79065467
Because writers like Moff and Chibnall want to deal with gender stuff, but maybe haven't got a huge amount of subtlety, so the way they go about it is by shaping their characters around the theme they want to write instead of making a character first and then introducing the issue as something within the story.

>>79065958
(You)

>The future showrunner (pictured below) told RadioTimes.com on Monday night that he has not yet been able to fully dedicate himself to Doctor Who.


>Chibnall said he “hadn’t started yet” on the show and that all his energies were currently focused on season three of his ITV crime drama Broadchurch

>the showrunner-in-waiting told RadioTimes.com that he is taking a holiday after his ITV drama Broadchurch starts, before he gets to grips with the sci-fi show

>>79066244
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DxqdIA75sc

Anthem for series 12

>>79066244
Lazy cunt

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Make way, new doctor's coming through.

>>79066293
fuck off retard

>>79066244
>he hasn't already got five years worth of plot arcs planned out to the tiniest detail

what a failure, give me the job instead

>>79066530
Reminder that Miles wrote Book of the World in four days

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>>79066443
>He's [Chinballs] done literally nothing yet...

Apart from devoting all his time and effort to another season of a TV show that he's won tons of awards for, spose not.

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New doctorfu

>>79066838
I would never watch the show again.

>>79062161
I'd be fine with her. Might attract some GoT people

http://amzn.eu/f7cjrrr
http://amzn.eu/en4jWFY
http://amzn.eu/4ZO9FhR

Series 10 book descriptions.
What's the deal with Nardole? He's in one out of the three. Is he like the new K9, and gets left behind in the TARDIS sometimes?

>>79066838
Gross

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>>79066838
kys desu

Atwell is honestly the only woman I can imagine playing the Doctor and doing it justice. I'd still give the show a chance if they cast a different woman, but it's hard to imagine someone better suited for the role than her.

>>79067043
>http://amzn.eu/f7cjrrr
Generic - basically just the ghosts from Under the Lake/Before the Flood put in the plague setting from that deleted Ashildr flashback.

>http://amzn.eu/4ZO9FhR
If it "literally rains diamonds" on Saturn, and people can go there and get them, why are they still valuable? Shouldn't a science fiction (ish) writer at least know what postscarcity is?

>http://amzn.eu/en4jWFY
This one actually looks fun in a cheap, trashy way. Slenderman + clowns in the woods from last year

http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/rumour-series-11-wont-air-until-autumn-2018-83046.htm

WHAT A COMPLETE SHAMBLES!!! Done with this show now.

We're practically in the Wilderness Years.

It's Shada all over again.

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>if Moff had bowed out after the 50th everyone would be singing his praises
>"he took what RTD started and sent it soaring to new heights, securing a healthy future for the time lord blah blah blah"
>Instead he stays on out of love for the show
>Now the media narrative is "show devolved into needlessly complex plots, Moffat is out of touch, Capaldi's Doctor failed to connect with the public, probably be cancelled in a year or two, get a female or black Doctor or it's all over"

Seems like the media are almost bullying Doctor Who to get "politically correct" at the expense of shitting all over Moff like the second half of his run as showruiner was a disaster. Poor Moff. Let's get him a picnic hamper full of chocolate and sign it "love from /who/" and get one for Capaldi too.

In all seriousness, what will you do if they cast a woman or trans as the next Doctor?

Or if they make the Doctor really young and have him literally have sex with his companion?

>>79058075
Can I be the new doctor?

I'm starving and I need a job and I can't sustain myself doing theatrical pieces

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>>79067453
Picture totally related

>>79067453
Do you look and act like Hayley Atwell? If so, sure.

>>79063796
>>79063826
wtf I'm in love

>>79065957
ew

Can I be the new showrunner?

I've written for TV before, but was erased by a certain executive producer.

>>79067405
i've thought that a female doctor would feel like a different character to me.

I'll still watch but just complain about here.

They'll also never make the doctor's sex life like that, genders may change but the family rating won't.

>>79067568
Did you left any show to follow your dreams but now you regret and you were a bully in high school?

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He'd be a great choice and you know it.

>>79058075

Nah, a tansgender asian or nothing.

Can I be the new showruiner?

I've written acclaimed episodes such as 42 and Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, the list goes on.

>>79067699
No

Can I be the new Doctor?

I can't act but I'm really fat

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>>79058854
live show was good, gets everyone hyped

>>79067766
No Adam, get off the set.

>>79067712
You are just mad you will never write for the show again, Mark.

Why are there no Gareth video interviews?

Did Moffat completely erase him from the internet as well?

>>79067826
foiled again

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New Doctor coming through.

Reminder that the Moffat era is exactly like The Curse of Fatal Death.

>Master gets boobs
>Ends with woman Doctor

>>79068021
>character dies and comes back to life
>plays around with time travel
>doctor starts off engaged

so Moffats been writing DW like a parody all this time confirmed.

also nearly all the actors would've made good doctors, Joanna Lumleys too old now btw.

>>79067636
Also apparently Tennant is his son's godfather.

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2012-10-12/stephen-mangan--id-love-to-play-doctor-who

>>79067405
>make the Doctor really young and have him literally have sex with his companion

It's broadcast before a watershed in the UK (usually, series 9 got later and later), and is considered a 'family' TV show. So anything sexual is vague and occasionally implied (eg. Ten and Rose) but not blatant.

Sorry for disappointing you if this isn't what you want.

>>79067405

Drop it like the trash it's become.

>>79068175
Never said the sex had to be on-screen.

It wasn't for River.

"I'm quite the screamer. Now there's a spoiler for you" - an obvious reference to The Husbands of River Song, where the Doctor and Professor Song had rampant sex for 24 years.

>>79068240
The Husbands of River Song takes place after The Impossible Astronaut in River's timeline you silly goose.

Why can't Nuwho reach Kino levels without the master?

>>79068301
Which means River had sex with 11 - or 13.

>>79060602
>Le BT advert man

>>79068240
>Rampant sex for 24 yrs with a raving nympho.

Am still amazed that River Song didn't drain all his energy and cause a regeneration.

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>>79068460

He's had a lot of practice.

>>79068301
Husbands of River Song takes place after Angels take Manhatten, in River's timeline.

>>79068364
>River having sex with Hayley Atwell's 13
I'm ok with this

I know this is /tv/ but

What's with /who/ and all the shitty fanfic bait?

>>79059706

Tom Spilsbury killed John Hurt confirmed.

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>>79068573
and nardole

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>>79068778
Many fanfic writers here on /who/, but don't tell anyone.

>>79068830
Excuse my ignorance, but who is Tom Spilsbury?

a female doctor seems like a great way to cast a waifu and start all sorts of saucey lesbian scenes.

>>79069345
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tom+spilsbury

>>79067918
He's on the Confidential for Shakespeare Code, I think

>>79069427
ok

Replace him with Missy and Watson with Clara. What changes?

https://youtu.be/_9-T_bv7b5g

>>79069603
Scott would be a great Doctor. They need to cast more villain-type actors to play the Doctor.

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>>79058075
Eva Green would splash her fucking boobs all over the show - naawwww. She gives it away for free.
HAYLEY COMET OR NOTHING!!!!

>>79068921
>oi surrve chips
She'll be fucking terrible

Idk if this is old news or not but Bill will call the Doctor "professor"

>>79069841
She'll be a dumb naive chav aka Rose 2.0 except she'll be super quirky too, that will be her whole personality.

>>79069943
We know, Colin.

>>79069967
She'll be a black Rose
>black roses can be a symbol of death
Show's over folks, Bill killed it

>>79069699
Eva for doctor, Hayley for partner

I don't watch the show, I was just passing by hoping my waifus could be milk buddies in something

>>79069699
Hayley is the perfect blend of classy and sexy little minx. She's also sweet, silly, and has a great sense of humour. Basically perfect.

>>79070049
My dick would not be able to handle this

>>79070000
Baker? I don't get the joke.

>>79069699
>dat tongue
Hnnnnnnng save me, Doctor

>>79069418
Hayley's really into playing bisexual women. It would be glorious.

>>79069943
i'm actually hyped for this

>>79069699
We need more Atwell ITT to kick this Hayley Comet up a notch.

>>79070094
Waymark. A twitter spoilerhound.

https://twitter.com/dailycapaldi/status/826900141105958914

Okay, which one of you is this?

https://twitter.com/blackcapchicka/status/827273490210320387

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>>79070430

>>79071025
As a Hayley fan, I was sad to see her in such a shit ABC show after the campy greatness that was Agent Carter. But I've come to terms with it now. It delivered us some great eye candy and has been cancelled in just enough time for her to be cast as the Doctor.

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"A new kind of Ice Warrior"

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Doctor Hayley Atwell seems to be growing in popularity.

http://screenrant.com/doctor-who-hayley-atwell-discussion/

>>79062595
who is this, low rent anna kendrick?

>>79071774
Never underestimate the power of meme magic and a fantastic pair of tits.

>>79069943
"Doctor What?"

Gotta admit I liked the mini s10 trailer.

>>79070625
>Get the middle 8 back

Based Capaldman
A
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>>79066244
Hurry up and cast Atwell Chibs

How good would Chibnall era be if he just casted Atwell and wrote every script last minute

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>>79070690

>>79072425
>making 6 a woman
Why?

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>>79072425
Here's a comparable artistic depiction of 13.

It's Hayley Atwell's foster dog dressed up as her for Halloween (no, it really is).

>>79072624
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igfcsDFeFLs

>>79072687
the liberal future

>>79072340
>wrote every script last minute
Same as Moffat then?

>>79073016
Even though he had to rush it at the end, you have to give credit to Moffat — the events of series 5 and 6 were premeditated and thought-out far in advance. Maybe the details weren't completely ironed out, but he clearly had a good idea of what he wanted to do since the Library.

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>>79073160
He is a wily old Scottish coot

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Who would you be without the Doctor?

>>79073835
nearly the same , I think i just follow stuff as a distraction.

>>79073835
some guy

Capaldi wants Frances de la Tour as 13.

She's a great actress, but seriously, the only complaint people had about Capaldi is that he was too old, and he suggests a 72-year-old woman to replace him?

Or is that his evil plan—with Frances as the Doctor, people will start saying "I want a younger Doctor, like Matt Smith or Peter Capaldi"?

>>79073835
If it weren't for Doctor Who, I probably wouldn't have expected all English women to look like Sarah Jane, Leela, Romana 1, or Romana 2, and would have been a lot less disappointed the first time I went to England at 15.

>>79074050
He's probably just giving her a nod out of respect
He knows Chib will cast some twink

>>79074050
If we have an old lady Doctor, it has to be Katy Manning.

And Iris Wildthyme has to show up, having regenerated from Katy Manning into Andrew Buchan shortly before the Doctor regenerated, so she can claim he's copying her in every way now.

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>http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Police_5:_The_Master_(TV_story)
>http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Shaw_Taylor
>Shaw Taylor was a television host and journalist who once reported a crime file on the Master in the early 1990s, warning the public to be on the lookout for this dangerous individual. He mentioned during the programme that the Master was 700 years old. (TV: Police 5: The Master)
>http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Master
>He was later subject of a television report by Shaw Taylor during the early nineties. The television report displayed events from other planets, the tapes were sent by an "unknown source". (TV: Police 5: The Master)

100% CANON, folks.

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>>79074084
>Being disappointed when you found that England was full of Billie Pipers and Catherine Tates

Get a load of this faggots.

Philip Olivier suggests the Doctor should have a Romana 2-like regen sequence and go through a bunch of different bodies, with a fake-out ending on him, but then he resumes regenerating after a couple minutes into whoever gets to be the real Doctor.

I assume this means he wants to be 13, but knows he has no shot at it, and this is the best he can hope for. But why does an early-30s gay icon and huge Doctor Who fan think he has no chance while the BBC is talking about finding their next Tennant?

>>79074365
Freshen yer cock, Doctah?

>>79074386
goes through 4 bodies, people arguing if we're on Doctor 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 or 18

>>79074386
Wouldn't work since he'd be without a companion.

I think 12 is gonna die alone.

He won't have anyone to banter with or explain "oh I'm just trying on bodies"

>>79074497
>I think 12 is gonna die alone.

nigga you depressing

>>79067636
Only if he plays an Irish Doctor, dudes parents are Irish.

>>79074547
>nigga you depressing
Nah, depressing is 12 and Missy die together and regenerate together. And they both regenerate into Gatiss.

>>79074547
>Only if he plays an Irish Doctor, dudes parents are Irish.
We've had Northern Doctors, Scottish Doctors, a shitload of Home Counties Doctors… "With an Irish Doctor, we now have complete coverage of the UK. Also, in an unrelated note, production is moving from Cardiff to Manchester."

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>>79070040
What bout me?

>>79074563
>>79074547
I think they'll keep Bill to help with the transition

>>79074746
>I think they'll keep Bill to help with the transition
I'm reserving judgment on Bill until we see more than 5 seconds of her, but I think Nardole as a regen companion might actually work better.

Even if there's probably going to be no UST between Bill and 12, it's still going to look like like the other NuWho regens with their "Oh no, my boyfriend is turning into someone else" vibe. But not with his goofy mate Nardole.

>>79074917
>But not with his goofy mate Nardole.
We're still talking about Philip Olivier's fake-out regen here? You're imagining Matt Lucas sharing a scene with Philip Olivier and not drooling all over him?

>>79062161
YES! I would love her town be the Doctor.

However, I think she has a new CBS show.

>>79061768
And the parenting storyline stopped being relevant as of Series 7.

She's correct that Bond is part of the old guard, and so hhim being a white man makes some sense (although that's tricky. It's not like there weren't any female spies back in the day. But Bond should still stay a man, most likely.)

But what does the Doctor represent? I would say the Doctor represents adventure, the desire for peace, the curiosity to venture into new world's, and the ability to rebel against tyranny. All those are non-gendered traits.

However, there is a subcurrentrade of "the Doctor came from a privileged, overbearing group of people, and learned to fight the bias of the system, because of Ian and Barbara." I've heard making him non-white would muddle the metaphor, which makes some sense. However, I'm not sure if making him a woman or black would really mess up the metaphor that much.

She brings out a good point in that "identity politics" can mask us from doing real action. Every second we're debating should the Doctor change gender, is a second we'really not talking to our Congressmen or government official about women's rights, or helping spread education to help poor communities. Indwe'd, perhaps if we didn't spend so much time arguing about "it's problematic", we'd get more stuff done.

But shows with more women and minority people do effect us. It helps people get used to seeing them, and more importantly, helps children. If they see a woman being competent, it helps them learn that woman are competent. It's much easier to stereotype a group if you have no real examples to choose from. And the Doctor is ready made for a gender and race change. It can give some young British boy who has black skin, or some South Korean girl, encouragement that "there's a hero like me out there. So I can be a hero too."

And that, I think, is worth it.

>>79069943
How do you know this

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So now that Haley Atwell has literally been officially confirmed as the 13th Doctor, what should her first lines be?

Bonus points: comments on her gender change in a clever, tasteful way

>>79075508
I just gained another magic box

Atwellfags, I've heard you say she's a good actress, but would she really be capable of conveying the Doctor's immense age? It's a difficult acting task but it's absolutely essential to the character and literally every actor cast as the Doctor has managed to pull it off brilliantly (with the exception of maybe Tennant)

>>79075568
That's a good point. Could she pulled it off?

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>>79065135
h-holy fuck

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>>79075833
There are other things I'd rather she pull off desu

>>79075868
Sigh. I knew that was coming.

No, but--oh! She literally played an old Peggy Carter in a movie! Though that isn't really the same thing

Damn. We maybe should have used meme magic on Eva Green instead. She would work as an old soul.

I like how the "Mommy Cinematic Universe" group in /s/ keeps on showing up everywhere else.

>>79075381
>the Doctor came from a privileged, overbearing group of people, and learned to fight the bias of the system
He was never part of the aristocracy. He was a scholarship kid (if you didn't get that before series 9, surely you do now?) and a teenage rebel who skipped classes to learn from an old hermit or just get drunk with the Shobogans. Season 1 wasn't about a high lord learning about the need to fight tyranny—that's season 16, and they already did that story with a woman the first time. Season 1 was about a fugitive learning to fight back instead of hiding.

And that's why casting a woman or a black man doesn't muddy any metaphors. Mac Hulke would have told you that it's just a straightforward class-consciousness message: The people are oppressed, and of course that includes the female and black ones.

>>79076036
Plus he was loomed with a belly button

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>>79076009
Don't you dare doubt the Atwell!

In all seriousness, I think she could do it. I've seen a few of her early roles, and even back then she tended to be cast in "old soul" type roles. I thought she did a good job in those roles despite being a pretty young actress at the time. She also starred in a 3-part series called Life of Crime where she played the same woman at three stages of her life (age 20s, late 30s, and 50s or something like that) and was quite convincing. It's not the same as the Doctor, exactly, but it could work. It's hard to say for sure though.

>>79075508
>what should her first lines be?
12: Nardole, there's something I need to tell you. I can survive this, but I'm going to chance. I'll be a different man. Different face, different voice, maybe a different color, definitely different eyebrows.

Nardole: Yes, I know about regeneration, we've talked about it before.

12: Well, pardon me for boring you while I sit here dying. Waa…

13: …agh! (muttering) Reverse the polarity… quantum interocitation… etheric beam locators…god, this isn't going to be one of those technobabbly incarnations, is it?

Nardole: Well, that's a mild surprise. River's going to be jealous.

13: What? Oh, I see. The Daleks still have the TARDIS surrounded, right?

Nardole: Yeah.

13: So let's deal with that first. I see I'm still wearing my steel-toes, that'll come in handy.

>>79075471
https://youtu.be/hnLbNmW_ImA
This is a filming video.
Listen close, she calls him Professor.

>>79076194
"Is this the version where they banned all mention of his name, and yours, for consorting with aliens? Or the one where he got every record of himself deleted from the files? Maybe you didn't used to have a father? Maybe you're living in the middle of a time war. Maybe there's an Enemy out there... who's rewriting you when you're not looking. Maybe you weren't always half-human. Maybe you weren't always a Time Lord. Maybe you originally came from some planet in the forty-ninth century. Fleeing from the Enemy who'd overrun your home. Cheers, Jon"

Hey guys, is there any Chibnall scripts available online? I want anything, not only Doctor Who.

>>79075381

You people are literally cancer.

>>79076386
>Cheers, Jon
Now I'm going to have to try rereading that book and signing off every dialogue that way. I think it'll be a lot more fun. But you forgot the "Blum".

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>>79076312
>>79075555
>>79075508
>>79075568
(You)

>>79076434
>Hey guys, is there any Chibnall scripts available online?
Didn't BBC publish some Life on Mars scripts recently? Not sure if they included his episodes, but worth a check.

>>79076312
>>79075555
>>79075508
>>79075568

>>79076312
>>79075555
>>79075508
>>79075568

>>79076312
>>79075555
>>79075508
>>79075568

>>79076312
>Reverse the polarity… quantum interocitation… etheric beam locators…
OK, I get the etheric beam locators, and referencing Fatal Death is totally Moffat, but what's "quantum interocitation" from?

>>79072425
>tfw no 5 kt

>>79076809
>what's "quantum interocitation" from
Douglas Adams, and not even Doctor Who; one of the drafts for Salmon of Doubt.

According to DNA, an "interocitor" is one of the things mid-century hack SF used before people realized that they could just say "computer" because computers could actually be small enough to carry around or build into a flight console.

>>79076314
>Listen close, she calls him Professor.
So presumably this means at a crucial point in episode 11…

Doctor: Bill, you know those cans of nitro-nine I always tell you not to carry around? Now would be a good time to use one.

Bill: Oi, what's Nitro-Nine? I only carry chips!

Doctor: Well then, I'm sorry. I'm so, so sorry.

Bill: What?

Doctor: Unless we can blast a hole in that wall, only one of us is getting out of here. And you're no Wilf. See you when you come back as a Cyberman or whatever.

Bill: Seriously?

Doctor: Nah, just fooling. We're both going to die.

>>79076910

Do you guys think they're gonna — dare I say it — kill Bill? Doesn't feel like they would, but.. you never know.
She gets one series.

>>79077415
I reckon she'll likely be like Martha - will have one series then maybe pop up in a few future episodes outside of the full time companion role.

Why must they kill every companion?

>>79071739
https://twitter.com/BBCOne/status/826866302627246080

>>79077567
That's 100% a flood infected ice warrior.

When can we expect a new trailer? shows only two months off. Think we got the first trailer for series 9 two months before it aired.

>>79077535
You think Chibnall's going to bring back a Moffat companion? I mean, it's not impossible, but what makes it seems likely?

Anyway, I don't think Bill's going to die (and I don't think she should). The whole point of the S10 "soft reboot" is to get away from the "darkness" of S9; just repeating S9 or S7.1 wouldn't exactly do that, would it?

>>79077567
and i thought it was going to be a fem Ice warrior, glad i was wrong

>>79077597
they don't want to drive any more fans away

>>79077567
The mouth looks good. Too bad there's nothing really interesting about them other than the fact that they're from the old series.

>>79077597
Feels so weird that it's only 2 months away. I've already forgotten what it's like to have a season of Doctor Who ongoing.

>>79077624
I predict Bill's going out exactly the way Sarah Jane did (the first time, not School Reunion), either S10E12 or S11E2. I'm not sure why Chibnall thinks SJ had the best exit in the show's history, but he does.

>>79077624
Chibnall has two options essentially. He can either try to pull a 2010 Steven Moffat and rebrand the show from the roots up in the style of Series 5 (imo this would be the best option) or he can try to carry over a few elements like the possibility of Bill showing up in the series once or twice for some continuity as if it is to be believed that she's going after series 10 the character will only ever had been in a total of 12 episodes.

But Chibnall is going to stamp his print over the show and for sure he's going to want his new characters to dominate. I wonder what type of companion he will have alongside the Atwell Doctor...

>>79077661
amen

>>79077567
Wow, I actually thought the mouth was crudely photoshopped on when I saw pictures of this.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1OkaFf0OQ9Xa2tYNHBrZWJBOGM

Hey guys! LooK! I'm memewriting for Hayley-Doctor!

>>79075381

I see gender identity as intrinsic to identity. especially as a tranny, I feel this way. and apart from that from that, though pretty much every dynamic of the series has changed, the Doctor's gender identity has stayed constant. I think that a female Doctor could fuck up whatever works about the formula.

as for the Doctor's race, though, who cares? just cast the right actor.

Just the idea of a female doctor horrifies me

>>79077946
just for future reference, if you want to pretend to be trans on the internet, don't call yourself a slur. it makes it a bit obvious

>>79077868
In my dreams, the Hayley Doctor gets a (attractive, fine, but non-cheesecake) male companion, who's not too far from present-day but far enough that it doesn't feel like every trip home is a trip to every other show on TV. Like a male Charley Pollard, with enough Jamie McCrimmon and Jarvis from Agent Carter mixed in that even the bad writers can figure out what to do with him and Hayley.

And then, a couple episodes later, they pick up a completely unrelated female companion who's from way in the past or future, like a female Steven, but with enough Zoe that even the bad writers etc.

And they only visit 21st century England once or twice all season, and it's not a familiar place to either companion.

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>mfw the Doctor regenerates into a little boy

>>79077868
What I think is more likely is that it'll be a cheesecake male companion, but with some way to avoid UST—maybe making him gay (not pansexual like Jack) or giving him a stay-at-home girlfriend who doesn't get dumped like Mickey or become a companion like Rory or die like Danny.

Will missy stay around for chinballs? She's very much a foil to 12 specifically

>>79078082
12 and Missy will regen together. Screencap this.

>>79078082
sorry to break it to you but missy regenerates into Nardole at the end of episode 12

Reminder Moffat literally left who because he missed Jenna

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/steven-moffat-hints-jenna-colemans-8787258

>>79077918
please I need a (you)

>>79078126
But Nardole is the Watcher, therefore the Master was the Doctor all the time.

>>79078116
>12 and Missy will regen together. Screencap this.
I predicted that yesterday.

But what I'd like to see is this:

Missy shows up a few episodes in. At first she tries to play things exactly the same as with Capaldi, calling the female Doctor her boyfriend and ignoring the sex change. She gets no reaction, so she tries everything else she can think of—catty "you stole my boyfriend, you bitch", lesbian flirting, etc.—but the Doctor insist on treating her as a serious threat over treating her as someone personal. "Maybe that worked when we were the last of the Time Lords, and you were the only person in the universe who could understand me. But they're back. You thought I wouldn't be able to find them?"

Then Missy can regenerate into someone else who plays it different for the next time.

>>79078024

not pretending. I just don't find the term offensive. although I might if I had the term used against me, admittedly.

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NewWho (5=Average)
Series 1: 10/10
>Eccelston is GOAT. Also Dalek was wonderful.
Series 2: 7/10
>So comfy. Also the Impossible Planet - Satan Pit are a great pair of episodes.
Series 3: 6/10
>A few episodes in the middle drag and the finale is kinda meh. Gridlocked is an underrated gem.
Series 4: 4/10
>Donna is fantastic, the episodes not so much...except for Midnight. Midnight is a masterpiece.
Series 5: 9/10
>Love it. The Eleventh hour is my favorite intro Doctor story.
Series 6: 5/10
>Only 5/13 episodes interest me. God Complex is my favorite 11 episode.
Series 7: 7/10
>Not a stellar season but certaintly not terrible. I enjoy the finale. Asylum of the Daleks is a great opener.
Series 8: 8/10
>Capaldi sticks the landing. Listen is my favorite.
Series 9: 10/10
The finale is the only thing that dissapoints, and even then it's not that bad. Heaven Sent is phenomenal.

>>79078024
This is 4chan. People use self deprecating language all the time. It's not unreasonable for someone here to self identify as a 'tranny'. This isn't tumblr, people aren't offended by something as trivial as a word. If you personally are, you need to rethink why you're here because you have zero chance of changing this culture.

So, The Doctor without a doubt prefers the company of women.

If he would regenerate into a chick would that mean she'd be a lesbian? I'd be ok with that.

Guys can we just be honest here, even if we're ok with the idea of a female Doctor and even if the stars and writers want it and make it happen. It's going to backfire! i'm serious the general public who make up the majority of viewers obviously will not accept it and they never will. I give the female Doctor lasting 1-2 seasons max and then they will go back and stick to a male Doctor for all subsequent incarnations.

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>>79077918
Perfect, perfect. We must keep the Hayley meme alive!

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>>79065135
>>79065135
>youtube "hand expression" vids

>>79078397
Oh for sure it'll be a disaster.

Wouldn't be surprised if it kills NuWho.

>>79078368
>So, The Doctor without a doubt prefers the company of women.
Ten only ever found two people attractive—Rose and the Master. Two was happy to fall into a pile with Zoe or Victoria, but only if Jamie was there too. Nine didn't mind a bit of Jack. Five was completely turned off all sex by having to live with Tegan and Adric.

Please give me a random episode name, I'm going to write a screenplay for that. I'm terrible so expect nothing.

>>79078489
The Big Cock

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>>79078397
I think you're underestimating general audiences. Then again I could be terrible wrong. Even so, WAR DOCTOR BEST DOCTOR!

>>79078520
No.

>>79078368
You only have male incarnations to judge that by
If there was a female incarnation there's no reason to assume it would be the same

>>79078397
Why will the general public obviously never accept it?

The general public obviously were never going to accept Troughton, or Davison, or Smith, or Capaldi. They got over it pretty quickly.

The only exception is the fangirls needing someone to lust over not getting over Capaldi, but even if none of them come back to identify with the Doctor and/or lust after the male companion, they've already been lost, so they can't be driven away again.

>>79078489
Doctor who and the case of the stolen slippers

>>79078489
>Please give me a random episode name
Symphony of the Daleks

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>Ideal Male Doctor
Alexis Denisof

>Ideal Female Doctor
Haley Atwell

>Ideal Villain for Next Season
Rani, Master, and Valeyard

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>>79078599
>Symphony of the Daleks
You just wait now. It's happening.

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>>79078489
The Knight of Nightmares
The Grove of Skulls
Clipped Wings
Shivers

>>79077946
Hmm. That makes sense. However...Time Lords tend to change their intrinsic characteristics all the time, in each regeneration. If it was about a human changing forcibly gender, like in that movie The Assignment, I'd agree. But the Doctor went from Fifth Doctor to Sixth Doctor, and he seemed to change greatly. And Missy seems to have much og the same intrinsic characteristics as the Master. Perhaps it's different for Time Lords?

(I feel like I'm about to run into a "third-wave genderfluid-positive feminist vs transsexual argument. I don't mean to offend.)

>>79078659
>You just wait now. It's happening.
I'm actually curious what you could do with Daleks and music.

But then I think "Advance and attack, attack and destroy, destroy and rejoice" from The Chase is one of the great Dalek scenes, so what do I know?

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>>79078659
I love that you took the trouble to make a title page

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Anne Frank will never be a companion or even be the center of a episode

>>79078397
>>79078551
Yeah, I see a lot of people saying that a female Doc wouldn't be accepted or would kill the show, but I don't know why people think that.

>>79078551
>subsequent
There's a big difference between various men playing the role and a whole other gender.

>>79078742
A female Doctor _could_ kill the show if they tried hard enough. For example, go all Supergirl and make all the antagonists female and every other major character except the possible love interests female just because the Doctor is now female, that'd do it. But I don't think even Chibs is that stupid.

>>79078551
>>79078742
Fans seem to forget that the general audience don't have strong, passionate beliefs about what Doctor Who should and shouldn't be. To them, it's just a TV show. I doubt you'd be able to engage a casual viewer in a debate about a female Doctor because they just wouldn't care.

>>79078712
Cute

>>79078712
>>79078702
It will be 10th Doctor story during specials.

>>79078659
What program are you using to write the script?

And which Doctor?

>>79078837
>For example, go all Supergirl and make all the antagonists female and every other major character except the possible love interests female just because the Doctor is now female, that'd do it.
Why would that do it?

What would do it is shitty writing. The biggest risks is that the writers just wouldn't cope with the simple task of writing her the same as other Doctors, and instead constantly add references to her gender and/or make her seem sexy and flirty just because she's a woman now.

>>79078831
>There's a big difference between various men playing the role and a whole other gender.
Not to normal people. Patrick Troughton is nothing like William Hartnell, even if they can both be classified as middle-aged upper-middle-class white men. The only people who put those classifications so far ahead that nothing else matters are the alt-right on /pol/ and the tumblrs who decided to become the SJW stereotype they invented as an enemy.

And even among those types, remember that this is England, not America. A change in class—like, say, Nine—is a much bigger difference than you probably expect.

>>79078916
>It will be 10th Doctor story during specials.
The only problem is that means you need to come up with yet another reason that some Daleks somehow survived the last time they were all destroyed forever. If you set it before the Time War or after Victory of the Gatiss, that isn't a problem. But if you're really thinking post-Donna Ten, maybe the benefit you get from sticking with that will be more than the cost of YA Dalek retcon.

>>79078975
>Why would that do it?
Because that inherently means failing at the simple task of writing her the same as other Doctors. There's no reason the entire universe should change so that now all the most dangerous bad guys are women just because the Doctor is now a woman, so if they do that, that's already enough shitty writing to doom things.

>>79079049
So if Chibnall kept a male Doctor but made all the antagonists and every other major character female, that wouldn't kill the show? But if the Doctor was female too, it would?

>>79079049
Wouldn't part of that be mitigated by returning villains, though? You have to have Daleks, Angels, Cybermen, Sontarans etc which can't be "genderized" that way.

>>79079017
I'm struggling with companions, I just want to write solo-Doctor story, and introduce some new characters.

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>>79079104
That would still kill the show if he did it for some other reason that was just as dumb as "well, they have to be girls because the Doctor is a girl", sure.

>>79079154
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>>79079049
I mean, two of the Doctor's main baddies are non-gendered aliens. Do Daleks even have gender?

>>79079118
>You have to have Daleks, Angels, Cybermen, Sontarans etc which can't be "genderized" that way.
You do remember that we're talking about Chris "Cyberwoman" Chibnalls here, right?

>>79079119
>I'm struggling with companions
Well, I guess you can't do any worse with your one-shot companion(s) than Lady Christina de Souza.

There are other companionless gaps in the show, though. Look at the MA and PDA novels and BF audios to see where they found room to cram in solo adventures or entire runs with new companions. And Eleven even went off and had other adventures while Amy and Rory were asleep sometimes.

>>79079269
>Well, I guess you can't do any worse with your one-shot companion(s) than Lady Christina de Souza.
Well, if even Gareth can do as bad as her…

But I suppose anonymous has the advantage of not having his entire script rewritten by RTD. "More Chelonians! I love your Chelonians, that's why I commissioned this script from you! Oh, we're cutting the Chelonians."

>>79078701

I mixed up my Dolyist and Watsonian rationales in my post. I will admit that I came up with the Dovlist rationale before Missy appeared (as Missy) and that she softened my views a little (as intended, perhaps).

anyway, in strictly Watsonian terms, I think that the fact that we have seen Time Lords generally regenerate into Time Lords and Time Ladies into Time Ladies shows that they like it that way. the Master has violated all sorts of boundaries and codes anyway, while male and would have done anything to mess with the Doctor.

referencing real world feminist ideas, I do not really taken them as gospel, at all. I think that, because my intuition says that men and women do have a different nature.

I knew a very androgynous gay guy. a hardcore bohemian, who at one time, circa 1970, took female hormones. (either he did not tell or I never asked.) anyway, he said that while in Morocco that a gang of men had found him alone, called him the local equivalent of "faggot" and gang-raped him. when his boyfriend heard about this, the story aroused him so much that he masturbated over it.

now switch the sexes around. would a woman, on finding out about the rape of her girlfriend, then start to masturbate over it? I find that nearly impossible to imagine.

so in my thoughts I make that the go-to story that shows to me that men and women have intrinsic differences, to a greater or larger extent.

for my own experience as a transsexual (see, I used the proper term now) and why I did and some comments make to me bear this out. stop me before I get into really controversial territory.

I have only given a pretty simplified version of my views about real life, please note.

>>79078981

in real life, Hartnell, Troughton (I think, not bothered to look it up), Pertwee (I think, again, not bothering to look it up), Tom Baker and Davison all came from working class backgrounds. (Davison passed himself off as more posh. he also had a father from, I think, the West Indies. not at all joking.) worth saying.

>>79079797
>the Master has violated all sorts of boundaries and codes anyway
And the Corsair? And the General on Gallifrey?

It's not like we've seen hundreds of other regenerations besides the Doctor's and only a handful of them were cross-sex. We've seen that Borusa was a man 4 times, Rassilon was a man 3 times, Romana was a woman 2 times, and… that's about it. Hardly enough evidence to call the three swapped transitions all aberrations.

>>79079886

correction: his father came from British Guiana.

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>>79078717
Sounds depressing desu...I don't know how she would work as a companion. Just touching things and making unintelligible sounds. I guess her story is pretty uplifting in the end though.

>>79079886
>in real life, Hartnell, Troughton (I think, not bothered to look it up), Pertwee (I think, again, not bothering to look it up), Tom Baker and Davison all came from working class backgrounds
Troughton's father was a solicitor from a long line of legal professionals. I think his mother's family were mostly scholarly types.

Pertwee came from a theater family, although his father was more of a movie guy than a stage guy.