/who/ - Doctor Who General

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Don't care what that one anon said, I"m still posting this because I hope someone will get some joy out of it. The Second Volume is fucking baller. About to start the 3rd volume.

In honor of the passing of John Hurt, I present the first three volumes of the War Doctor's Big Finish adventures. If you enjoy this series, I highly recommend you visit the Big Finish main page and support them by purchasing some of your favorite stories.
https://www.bigfinish.com/ranges/v/monthly-series


http://www.abcd.com/file/4j24lk3f71bpiu0/WDV123.txt.txt
>Replace ABCD with mediafire
>Follow the instructions.

>>79079118
>You have to have Daleks, Angels, Cybermen, Sontarans etc which can't be "genderized" that way.
While we're on the subject, why aren't there female Cybermen? It makes no sense. We've seen women be converted before, but after conversion they always have the same male voice.

I know someone's going to bring up the Cyberwoman now but I'm being serious. Cybermen should obviously include women too. In fact, the Cybermen's design would be improved if they weren't all so uniform and actaully gave off the impression that they used to be people.

>>79079162
Sounds like you're saying too many female characters would ruin the show, without really having a justified reason for believing it.

>>79079179
>Do Daleks even have gender?
They're all voiced by male actors, so even if they don't have a gender in the show they're pretty gendered to audiences. Not to mention the Doctor calls them "boys" sometimes.

I remember reading about a Doctor Who forum where somebody made an OC female Dalek or something and it made this turbonerd really mad because he said Daleks can only be male. And then the first person dug up all this canon evidence as to the Daleks having a sense of gender, etc. that supported the idea of a female Dalek. Sounded pretty funny.

>>79079154
One of marigold's best melodramatic songs tbqh desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu4Ms67EvgU

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>>79079234
>PLEASE DOWNLOAD MY FILES

>>79079266
Because Cybermen don't need gender at all; they reproduce by converting. The whole point of them is that they force everyone to be identical - it worked a lot better with the Tomb voices that sounded more artificial and alien

>>79079266
Anon, Cybermen are genderless. "Man" has been used as a gender neutral term for centuries, and this is one of those contexts. Giving different cybermen different voices goes against the whole assimilation 'everyone is identical' thing (except for leaders but that's different reasoning)

>>79079266
>the Cybermen's design would be improved if they weren't all so uniform
But that's the point.
>Cybermen will remove sex and class and colour and creed. You will become identical. You will become like us.

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>>79079317
Alright, next time I'll post some links other Big Finish titles. I'd like to have a story discussion thread if peeps are up for it.

>>79079266
>They're all voiced by male actors
This is an incredibly shitty argument. In the world of voice acting, females voice males and males voice females all the time. The whole point of the voice being separate from the character means that the gender of the voice actor is literally irrelevant when it comes to determining the gender of the character.

>>79079334
Tomb voices best voices. I like the ones in Tenth Planet too, but like you I love how artificial the Tomb voices sound.

>>79079406
Put them on MEGA, and I'd consider doing a discussion.

>>79079620
Behold Mr. Too Good For Mediafire! Who's obviously above such peasant links and obviously require the nourishment and comfort of the trusty whole mega.nz.
P.S. Get fucked

>>79079544
Didn't they make them in the studio with a primitive Stephen Hawking-type speech aid device? I always thought they should have more of a medical/prosthetic theme, like you could do the human hands with tubes sticking in, and sock faces but make it slightly bloodstained bandages

>>79079726
And that's why we can't have audio discussion threads, because some edgy anon has an autistic outburst and tells people to get fucked just for suggesting something.

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Writing is god damn hard.

>>79079620
Have you tried mediafire? It's actually quite a good and fast hoster.

>>79079865

It really is. It's also really time consuming. Especially when you hate everything you write and keep rewriting it over and over.

>>79079865
I would drop this episode honestly.

>>79080089
What the fuck are you talking about. Take your meds.

>>79079865
Keep on writing. Even if you feel it's shit. You'very just started. Most of what I write feels like random doodles when I start.

>inb4 it's still doodles when I finish

As you go along, your subconscious will start filling in more plot. Just keep writing.

Why did you pick Ten, by the way?

Think of somethink new or make likeable characters is impossible. I have no idea how Moffat used to come up with this stuff regularly. God damn.

>>79080269
>he hasn't seen Clerks 2
>>>/out/

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>>79080269
Hey don't get mad at me because your idea of a deaf, dumb and blind person for a companion is a dumb.

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>>79079941
The important thing is you keep at it.

Also as a writing exercise for this thread, pretend you're in charge of season 12 because Chinball shat the bet with Series 11. Give yourself five minutes to come up with the titles to 13 episodes. Be sure to make multi part episodes where necessary. Also include which iteration of the Doctor you feel would be best suited to tackle your season.

1.The Reality Eaters
2. Deadweight
3. The Cask of Varga
4, The Uncoming Tomorrow
5. Round and Round
6. Shared Demise
7. Eye for an Eye
8. Songs of Keska
9. Rumination
10. Daleks in Love
11. The Messiah of the Cybermen
12. The Unforgivable Mistake
13. Death to Doctor

Every single episode is a standalone and due to the way I visualize this season, every single episode is going to seamlessly flow into one another meaning that whatever Doctor I pick has to be able has to have mountains of endurance as well as having the stamina to go for continuous adventures without breaks. n. With that in mind, I think 4, 5, 8, and 10 would be up for the challenge.

>>79079266
>Sounds like you're saying too many female characters would ruin the show, without really having a justified reason for believing it.
Not at all. I'm saying that having too many female characters _for an intentional and obvious bad reason_ would ruin the show.

Just happening to have more female characters one season—that happens all the time, and nobody ever cares, of course. But "going Supergirl" is different. It's blatantly obvious (even if you don't read the interviews) why all the powerful characters in Supergirl are are women while in Arrow, Flash, and Legends they're not.

>>79079334
>Because Cybermen don't need gender at all
It's nothing to do with what they "need". They convert women, so there would be women cybermen. It's as simple as that.

>>79079349
>>79079381
>The whole point of them is that they force everyone to be identical
I can see why some would feel that way, but personally I think the whole point of them is they have no emotion. I think individualistic components to their design, as in different genders/heights/voices/different levels of augmentation, etc., would only add to them, not detract. It would remind us that they're actually people, not identical robots.

>>79080526
>Death to Doctor

wow how original!!

isn't the Doc out of regenerations now

>>79079266
>While we're on the subject, why aren't there female Cybermen? It makes no sense.
Doesn't Miss Hartigan becoming the CyberKing (and more generally the comparison between her and people like Tobias Vaughn) make the point pretty clear?

This is a woman who hypersexualizes everything because she's a victim of sexual abuse (RTD's words), but even she doesn't care about sex and gender anymore once she's Cyberized.

>>79080606
no a thing happened

>>79079865
Drop all references to the frame and the camera. It's not the writers job to describe how a scene is filmed, you're just meant to tell the story.

>>79080578
>It would remind us that they're actually people, not identical robots.
But that's not what cybermen are meant to be

For the transsexual anon I was talking to earlier, that boyfriend seemed to have a really deep rape fetish, and/or quasi-cuckolding fetish and possibly enjoyed humiliation as a sexual turn-on. There's nothing "male" about that, and I could understand a woman enjoying the idea of a man in the submissive position (isn't that part of the appeal of pegging?)

And I cannot believe I just wrote the above, in all places, on /who/.

>>79080412
Do a lot of reading. Live a lot. Steal from several sources, and mix them into something new.

But for now, stop worrying about being too original. Much of what we consider "original" is because we don't know the influences from before.

>>79080652
Did they give him some more and punt the issue into the future or just dump the limit thing since it's just an archaic holdover anyway

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>>79080590
Lol you're not wrong. I did only have five minutes after all. Wanna give it a shot?

Also post your absolute favorite Doctor. This is a name shame post. Include why you like them, your favorite story, or both!

8th Doctor is my favorite.
Right now my favorite story with him is Night of the Doctor but as I continue to listen to his Big Finish adventures I'm sure that's certain to change. So far he just has all the qualities I'm looking for in an incarnation of the Doctor. He's smart, charming, sociable, quick on his feet, physical when necessary, and most of all merciful. Although this Doctor may not be the most aggressive of his incarnations and his lack of ruthlessness may in fact lead to his demise, I feel this iteration represents all of the Doctor's best qualities

>>79080578
>I can see why some would feel that way, but personally I think the whole point of them is they have no emotion. I think individualistic components to their design, as in different genders/heights/voices/different levels of augmentation, etc., would only add to them, not detract.
Marc Platt once said something pretty similar. They don't _have_ to identical in details that don't matter at all, and those details don't matter at all to them, even if they do to pathetic humans. But it's easier to show "become like us" in a visual medium by showing them as identical than by showing them as not caring about the trivial meaningless differences.

Which does raise the question of why he didn't use that idea in Spare Parts, I suppose…

>>79080730
The first one
Time lords give him more regenerations because they needed him to stay alive. They don't make it clear exactly how many new regenerations he's given

>>79080730
>Did they give him some more and punt the issue into the future or just dump the limit thing since it's just an archaic holdover anyway
They gave him some more. Probably only 13 more, not unlimited, but that's not actually stated, so Moffat left it up to whoever's in charge way down the line to do whatever they want.

>>79080683
>But that's not what cybermen are meant to be
Where are you getting this from? At least explain why you feel this way.

Cybermen are people, or you could say they used to be people. They're whole thing when being introduced in the Tenth Planet was that they were this weird, distorted mirror of humans from Earth's twin planet. The new series interpretation of them as bipedal robot daleks is the most boring use of them possible. Why would you want that?

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>>79080734
Mean to say "no shame". People should post their favorite Doctor regardless of public opinion. If it wasn't McGann I'd say it would be the War Doctor. John Hurt brought a degree of wit, ruthlessness, and sarcasm to the role that his predecessors sorely lacked. Also the idea that one iteration of the Doctor had to pull off so many unthinkable acts that it would make murdering the star whale look like a fucking drop in the goddamn pond.

THe War Doctor has seen some shit and subsequently is capable of wrecking shit. He's completely unafraid of using unspeakable weapons of manipulation and destruction as long as he can rationale their use, which he's always able to, and in many cases these decisions come back to bite him in the ass. He is one of the more complicated and layered iterations of all.

>>79080803
>the most boring use of them possible
Reminder that Attack of the Cybermen

>>79080730

They haven't said how many he has now so they're functionally infinite until a new writer decides to limit him again.

>>79080858
I said most boring use of cybermen, not worst Cybermen episodes. Attack of the Cybermen cybermen are still more interesting than stompy-shouty-robot cybermen.

>>79080734
The Atwell Doctor, obviously.

No, seriously, it's a battle between Seventh or Twelfth, with book Eighth as a close second. I love when the Seventh Doctor is mysterious, and how he seems so deep. It may be due to the fact that Curse of Fenric was my first ever classic ep, and how the Seventh Doctor appeared so epic in that story, playing games for the fate of the world.

Book Eight is a close second. When written well, he's less a man, and more a Tiggerish completely alien creature who only looks like a man.

>>79079865
It's not good conduct to write emotions onto characters, the actors will do that themselves.

>>79080734
>Also post your absolute favorite Doctor. This is a name shame post. Include why you like them, your favorite story, or both!
Two. Partly not just for himself, but for the fact that so much of what I like from Four, Seven, Eight, Ten, Eleven, and Twelve comes straight from Two. And having the best companion team of all time (Jamie & Zoe) doesn't hurt. And I would very much like a hat like that one.

Favorite story of his: The Mind Robber, for taking the show in new directions, for having no boring padding, and, I suppose, for not being missing, which has to come up when you're talking about a 60s Doctor.

I do love early Big Finish Eight, but I also love late EDA Eight, and they're barely the same character. I mean, they do both recognizably derive from the TV movie Eight, but they've gone so far in such different directions that it's hard to see them as the same man.

>>79080967
>I love when the Seventh Doctor is mysterious, and how he seems so deep
That really only comes off well in three or maybe four TV stories, and even less often in his Big Finish stories. The NA novels (after the first few) really capture it best.

>>79080976
>It's not good conduct to write emotions onto characters, the actors will do that themselves.
I don't know about that. Obviously don't go into too much detail about the emotion or how it's conveyed but I think whether a character is happy or sad is a pretty important part of a story.

>>79081096
I didn't go into it, but the other reason I like Seven was because my first Who novel was Timewyrm Apocalypse.

>>79081040
>I do love early Big Finish Eight, but I also love late EDA Eight, and they're barely the same character.
Caerdroia. He plays the Tigger Doctor exactly the way he was written in the mid/late EDAs, and he is absolutely believable as the same person as the Eeyore Doctor and the Sensible Doctor.

I don't know if McGann even read the EDAs beyond the first few, but Lloyd Rose knew how to script it in a way he would interpret perfectly.

>>79081259
Who told you to skip the first two books, you lucky bastard? The rest of us had to suffer through John Peel trying to do Uncle Terry with lots of sex added in, and then Uncle Terry trying to do Eric Saward, before we got to read a halfway decent one.

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>>79080967
If you could recommend any Big Finish story for 7 which would you recommend?

>>79081040
You've made a solid arguement for 2 and I'll give him a try. Also I am so pumped for witnessing 8's transition from Storm Warning to the current Doom Coalition Series. I'm also stoked for the upcoming McGann Time War Box Set to release which serves as a prequel to the War Doctor Box Sets.

>>79081450
>If you could recommend any Big Finish story for 7 which would you recommend?
Master and The Fearmonger are the best 2 I've heard so far.

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>open /who/ thread
>no Hayley Comet posts
we're not trying hard enough, you guys

Congratulations /who/, you have been appointed the position of Chibnall's main advisor and are in charge of deciding the general tone for his era. You can only pick between two options, do you want the Chib era to have:


A. A sort of Bank Holiday Monday feel, the kind of Jules Verne, Edgar Rice Burroughs story of derring-do, which I've always loved.

Or

B. A dry, dignified wit.

Choose wisely!

>>79081587
she's not attractive

>>79081587
Realism is settling in anon, I want it to happen but it's really just wildly unlikely and I'm not a fan of how high I'm building my hopes up. Better to cut the hype off now so I'm not bitterly disappointed over something that really won't happen

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>>79081647
You're probably right, but I'm going to let myself dream for now.

>>79081587
>open /who/ thread
>people are actually discussing doctor who
>'time to spam some atwell!'

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xD
Kill me

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>>79080967
>>79081096
>>79081259
Mine's definitely Seven. His whole chessmaster persona is just fascinating - it makes him more mysterious and alien, like you say, but the thing I feel like people miss is it also him more empathetic. He's doing all this ruthless shit - compromising his morals worse than War in some stories - ultimately because he loves people, like that Capaldi line from Deep Breath. "They're never small to me. Don't make assumptions about how far I will go to protect them."

Also he's got some of the best lore - Time's Champion, deals with Death, maybe having killed Six, the Other, the House on Allen Road, Eighth Man Bound, etc - and McCoy is just a charming weirdo who does magic tricks and rolls his Rrrrrrrrrs.

I also have a lot of time for Five. It seems like he's hard to write, but when they get it right (Fear of the Dark for instance) his whole vulnerability and Adric-regret opens up opportunities you can't do with any of the others.

>>79081580
Seconding this. And Night Thoughts.

>>79081448
I read TARDIS Eridutorium for a long time, looking at all the entries for classic Doctors, before I made the jump to watching classics, and so I knew that the first two weren't that good, based on what the commenters said.

>>79081450
Either Genocide Machine for Seven with Ace (plus another called Hex), or Assassination Games for Seven with Ace.

Red is really good, and has great "dark Seven". Mel's the companion, and it gets edgy.

Master has Seven by himself, and that's all I'm gonna say. Don't spoil yourself, just listen.

Colditz has Seven and Ace. Plus, Nazis.

The Fires of Vulcan is a historical with Seven and Mel.

>>79081647
Maybe there's still a chance? I mean, she hasn't announced any new projects since her other show finished wrapped up a month or two ago, maybe there's a possibility that she's got a few projects under consideration.

>>79081777
You say that like discussion mixed with Atwell spam is a bad thing.

>>79081450
>If you could recommend any Big Finish story for 7 which would you recommend?
I realize this isn't to me, but…

The big problem is that McCoy and Aldred forgot how to play the Seven/Ace interaction, even with good scripts, and it took them a long time to get it back.

If you want to get into it long-term, I'd skip ahead to The Harvest, which adds Hex to the mix and improves the dynamic.

For a single story, the NA adaptations or the sidesteps into NA-land, whether solo or with Benny, are much better. Master would be my first pick.

>I'm also stoked for the upcoming McGann Time War Box Set to release which serves as a prequel to the War Doctor Box Sets.
I'm a bit wary of that, just because McGann usually does better when there's not an arc being forced on him. But I'll definitely give it a chance.

I really wish Eight would get some EDA adaptations the way Seven did with NAs. Fitz's Story isn't enough.

>>79081837
Better than foreman desu

>>79081876
who

>>79081855
>Colditz has Seven and Ace.
Don't you mean Seven and McShane?

I was so glad when they dropped that whole thing.

>>79081853
People who call Twelve edgy probably haven't read the Seventh "blow up the planet" Doctor novels.

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I'm watching the show Class right now and I gotta say, as an addition to the Whoniverse I'm having a ball.

Also which Doctor do you not understand the love for but would like to still get into. As weird as it is to say I do not get any of the love for 10. I get that he's sociable and charming but what was the thing that set him apart from other iterations? What was that thing that set him apart from the others?

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>>79081981
12 is one of the least edgy Doctor's out there. He may have started with a spikey exterior but his travels with Clara quickly softened him to thepoint where I doubt he would be capable of half the crap he did in his earlier life.

>>79081855
>>79081450
I forgot to say, even if you don't like Mel's rather chipper personality, Red uses her cheeriness to good effect, by contrasting her with everyone else in the story.

>>79081855
>I read TARDIS Eridutorium for a long time, looking at all the entries for classic Doctors, before I made the jump to watching classics
Honestly, I probably would have read them all even if I had that resource back then. I just bought whatever made it over to Baltimore, which was fewer and fewer books, and more and more out of order, as the NAs went on.

In fact, a couple years ago I bought a box of most of the NAs, and pirated ebooks of the ones that were missing, so I could do a reread in order, and I still made myself suffer through the first two for reasons I can't explain to myself…

>>79081981
The one that always gets me is in Love and War when he literally tricks Ace's boyfriend into setting himself on fire.

>>79082119
>I forgot to say, even if you don't like Mel's rather chipper personality, Red uses her cheeriness to good effect
You know, after The Juggernauts and Catch-1812, it was kind of hard to remember why I'd ever hated Mel. (Rewatching a couple of the TV episodes solved that, of course…)

>>79082028
...I feel like I answered a post like this a few weeks ago.

Anyway, Ten is the most chummy Doctor. He's the one you'd go have drinks with, and he acts the most human. It's an act, perhaps, but a very convincing one. He acts like he's in the prime of his life, and only when his pain or rage comes through do you see the ancient alien beneath.

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>>79081702
This. The time between Doctors is really a magical time because for a short while your imagination can run wild and you can have a shit ton of fun speculating, and really everyone's guess is as good as any because no one knows shit. I say keep dreaming and enjoy it because these moments don't come often, right now Haley Atwell could be 13 and there's no definitive answer otherwise

>>79082113
Twelve doesn't sweat the small emotional stuff, and is somewhat introverted, but he cares deeply. Even in Death in Heaven, you can tell he doesn't want to kill the Cyber Danny, and his eyes almost pleads with Clara to forgive him ("There's no other way.).

>>79082249
Catch 18-12 was kind of dark in implication.

>>79082028
>As weird as it is to say I do not get any of the love for 10
It's really that so many of the things he says and does shouldn't be charming but are, and not in a sociopath way, but in an honestly charming way. Eight and Six can pull that off in the audios, but nobody else really did on TV.

The only problem with him for me is that by series 4 it felt like we knew him so well that there was nothing left for him to do, but he stuck around for another two years doing it anyway, and even Midnight wasn't enough to make up for that. Still, if I go back and watch the better series 2 stories today, he's still great.

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>>79082256
What is your favorite Ten episode? Do you know if the Ten comics are worth reading? What is your least favorite incarnation?

And on the topic of 10, I guess the only opinion I had of him was that he was incredibly vain and the only incarnation of the Doctor to waste a regeneration to maintain his form. He was also one of the few incarnations to declare that Time bends to his will rather than he that adheres to the "rules" of the universe.

Also I'm on the 3rd episode of Class and it is fucking horrifying. I'm basically watching an episode that starts the creature from Futurama's Movie, Beast with a Billion Backs

>>79082386
>Catch 18-12 was kind of dark in implication.
Definitely. And how many of companions can you imagine that working with?

>>79082203
That book has one of my favorite Seven scenes: Seven throws away a sword in disgust, after using it, while he's in virtual reality. It showed just how much he hates violence, and actually gives credence to Ten's "I NEVER WOULD" stance with guns.

>>79082386
Hey Immigrant, quick writing question: how do you go about describing stuff? I happened to look over my Shit Trips entry recently, and it's like 80% dialogue with really simple descriptions like "The Doctor walked down the alley" or whatever - I feel like a proper story should paint more of a picture, if that makes sense, or have more third-person.

(Asking because the "make up 13 titles" posts made me realize I've got ideas for more)

>>79082496
Oh, definitely. That and the gun bit in Happiness Patrol.

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>>79081853

Seven's the best.

Also why 11 was one of my favorites. All the just as planned story lines.

>>79080803
Dark Water/Death In Heaven was actually pretty good at making them more human compared to the other NuWho episodes. Although I guess that's not saying much since the others didn't even try. Too bad they were mostly in the background and some dumb stuff like the water.

>>79081448
Timewyrm: Exodus was good though. Better than Apocalypse at least. I need to get back to reading the VNAs, but I have so much stuff to read and all I ever do is browse 4chan and youtube.

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>>79082624
I find 4 and 11 insufferable. 6, 7, and 9 are all much more intriguing and have loads more depth.

>>79082437
My least favorite incarnation is [i]Ten [/i]! Although that doesn't mean I dislike him.

The Tenth Doctor had a hard life. To be fair, I think he only had like canonically 10 years as that face, so it makes sense why he was mad when he died, and why he wanted to keep it for longer. Concerning Time Lord Victorious, that was a bad time, but at least he bounced back. And speaking of Seven, it's the extreme version of 7's thought process.Though, again, he's not my fave. I prefer the more alien Doctors.

Another Class fan! Yep, Night visiting is an underrated horror.

>>79082437
>What is your favorite Ten episode?
Blink. Which is obvious, and also cheating, but I don't care.

>Do you know if the Ten comics are worth reading?
I liked The Forgotten, but the Tenth Doctor Ongoing stories kind of bored me.

>What is your least favorite incarnation?
Before Big Finish, definitely Six.

After Big Finish, it's tough. Three? He's a great character, but the most Doctory parts of him are the least interesting parts of him.

>And on the topic of 10…
Sure, in-universe, Ten is not someone I'd judge highly. But then in-universe, Two often resorted to genocide instead of looking for another solution, Seven thought he was the most important being in the universe, and Eight was an absolute bastard to many people he shouldn't have, and out-of-universe they're three of my favorite characters.

>Also I'm on the 3rd episode of Class and it is fucking horrifying.
Near the end, the heaven/hell pair of episodes is not bad.

>>79082437
>I'm basically watching an episode that starts the creature from Futurama's Movie, Beast with a Billion Backs
Top kek, that never occurred to me but it basically does, doesn't it?

>>79082496

>7 hating violence

He literally talked people into killing themselves. He killed a woman's dog just to make her cry.

He doesn't hate violence. He was disgusted that he had to dirty his hands because that's easy mode.

He's an ancient, bored, sociopath with a penchant for genocide. Guns and swords are inefficient tools for mass murder.

>>79082662
>Timewyrm: Exodus was good though. Better than Apocalypse at least.
I really hope I'm remembering the order right here… Genesys, Exodus, Apocalypse, Revelation, right?

Apocalypse was kind of blah at times, but Exodus had some really painful bits. Maybe it's because I grew up reading Terry's Targets, and seeing him try so hard to be edgy and JNT-era-obsessive disturbed me.

Anyway, I'm sure we can at least agree that Genesys was the worst and Revelation the best, right?

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>>79082689

11 is just a slightly quirkier 7. If you can look past Smith's youth, you've got an older, crazier, meaner 7 who puts on a flippant act around whichever humans he happens to be scarring for life today.

>>79082798
>He was disgusted that he had to dirty his hands because that's easy mode.
I saw it more as getting a thrill out of them destroying themselves, in a way that he could claim (to himself, or maybe to Time, not to his companions or authorities or anyone so trivial) was karmically justified and not his fault. The fact that it meant they were dead was almost beside the point.

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>>79082798
That is god damn sadistic....story recommendations? Big Finish titles?

>>79082890
>11 is just a slightly quirkier 7
11 is 7 using the same tricks and disguises 2 used to get away with his genocides instead of the ones 7 used.

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>>79082953

Hell that was just the tv show. I haven't really checked out any of the audios.

>>79082646
You mean the scene with Danny? I haven't rewatched those episodes yet, I remember them as the worst instance of the cybermen yet. They were given even more powers and there was no reason for them to be cybermen at all. I'm going to rewatch it soon though

>>79082860
>Apocalypse was kind of blah at times, but Exodus had some really painful bits. Maybe it's because I grew up reading Terry's Targets, and seeing him try so hard to be edgy and JNT-era-obsessive disturbed me.
What was edgy about it? I just remember it being a fun little espionage story. Sure there are Nazis and I think they say the word kike at one point but that doesn't make it edgy in itself.
>Anyway, I'm sure we can at least agree that Genesys was the worst and Revelation the best, right?
Yes.

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>>79082970

Yeah, pretty much.

>>79082798
>He killed a woman's dog just to make her cry.
That's... technically true. But he wasn't doing it for sadistic reasons; the whole reason she turned into a dictator was because she wanted to get rid of sadness and paint a fake smile over her whole world. He was reminding her what it's like to feel grief, and that that's an important part of being human.

>>79082475
It's the specific Doctor and companion duo that make that story work.

>>79082497

I actually need to work on my descriptionsfw! It's one of my weaknesses, in my perspective.

But as advice, I usually focus on just describing what I see. Describe the colors, the smells, the sounds. If it's an alien pub, describe the customers drinking, how they sound, how raucous they act, the various tentacles and mandible they have. And describe the mood of the place.

"The bar was a leftover part of the Earth Federation's colonization of Garethopia. You could hear the sounds of drunk aliens clacking their various appendages, trying to chat up fellow customers, or worrying about the advancing Cyber Army. There was a feeling of being lefthe over, that the disreputables here represented the state of the country, and perhaps the planet. Humanity had left this place behind, and with it, any sense of civility. No one sane came here.

A man with a Panama hat walked into the bar, his umbrella hanging off his back. He didn't look like the drinking type, but he seemed utterly at ease here. He smiled, as if to say, "This place will do." "

Focus on what you see.

And read lots of books that do description. Read non-Who fiction with description, and read Who bookshould. Study what they did. And read good Who fan fiction. You can easily Google "best Doctor Who fanfic" to find good recommendations.

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>>79083108
In Master it's implied that (and I'd really reccomend not spoiling this, if you have any interest in listening to it) he and the Master were bullied at the academy, and the Doctor killed the bully, then told Death the Master did it. This made Death take the Master (who was still called Koschei back then) as her champion instead of the Doctor, but he doesn't know he's in her service so he just commits violent acts over and over without knowing why, and all their battles afterward were just the Doctor feeling guilty and trying to do damage control. It's SUPER dark (although the way they frame it, not necessarily true).

>>79083115
>What was edgy about it?
I don't mean edgy in that shallow sense, I mean the plotline is that the Doctor has to save Adolf Hitler—and cajole Ace, of all companions, into helping. And the Nazi dark mystical stuff actually works (albeit for alien-pseudoscience reasons), which is an 80s/90s dark historical-fantasy staple. Stuff like that.

All of that could have worked with a different writer, but he's trying to write it as if it really were a fun little espionage story, and then throwing in all this stuff that he thinks will make it darker and adulter and too-broad-and-deep-for-the-small-screen-ier, and it just clashes for me.

I know a lot of other people like it. And many of the ones who don't, it's because they think it's some kind of fuck-you to Mac Hulke (which I don't really get).

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>>79083159

lol

Sure thing. Even Ace is like "holy fuck".

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8c3tr_the-happiness-patrol-p9_shortfilms

>tis done

>>79083222
>It's the specific Doctor and companion duo that make that story work.
True. As a Seven/Mel story, it would be something completely different, wouldn't it…

>>79083462
I read a comic story where Seven manipulates Mel's ancestors and nearly killed them in the process, apparently in part so he could pun about it.

>>79083294
The guy who wrote that audio said he got death threats online after it came out.

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Assuming other iterations of the Doctor were placed in the same situation Capaldi experienced during Heaven Sent, how well do you think they would fare compared to the 12th incarnation? We'd also assume that the maze would reconfigure itself to reflect the Doctor and his companion at the time.

1st Doctor
>I think he's a tad on the older side and lacks a wealth of experience. I say he fails.

2nd Doctor
>He'd be more capable than the first but I still don't think he's quite there yet. I think he'd figure out confessions were necessary to progress but wouldn't quite make it thorugh all the phusical challenges.

3rd Doctor
>He'd fucking crush it and destroy that absantium wall like it was tissue paper.

4th Doctor
>Hard Pass. Nuff Said

5th Doctor
>I think he'd get through it and start the cycle but I don't think he quite has the grit to stick it out for 2 billion years.

6th Doctor
>As a prior anon said, once this Doctor realizes what's necessary, he'd spill the beans and peace out.

7th Doctor
>He'd have trouble with the physical portions but otherwise yes. He'd do anything for ace.

8th
>The Eighth Doctor is the adventurer, he's literally built for shit like this.

War
>I think War at the beginning of his career wouldn't have any trouble, unforutuantley we'd be using his primary appearance which him in his later years and I'd day he wouldn't be able to overcome the physical challenges

9
>He'd crush it. I'd also argue he'd try to be more physical with the veil which probably only 3 would have done before.

10
>Now things are getting interesting. I'd think he'd get through the entire thing but when he gets to the wall I'm not sure he'd be able to overcome his ego and realize the way forward is to sacrifice himself. Hit or miss whether he goes for it.

11.
>I legitimately have no idea how this would play out. I don't know whether 11's curiousity would lead him to his safety or to his death. I will say this one would be one of the more intersting ones to watch.

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>>79083538
Because it revealed too much about the Doctor's origins?

>>79083604
People hated the whole bully backstory I guess but I don't know what specifically triggered it

>>79083570
I swear there's just one person that is constantly trying to post conversation-starters like this, even if the middle of existing discussions. Can you calm down?

>>79083604
Probably because it implies the Doctor is basically horrible, at least at the start.

>>79083570

I don't think Six is that callous. Unless it's very early Six with Peri...

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>>79083604
Nothing is canon. Everything is canon. Some things exist solely to mock the idea of canon.

>>79083737
/who/tube, was my reply helpful?

>>79083737
>Whooooawwwwwwe! THAT'S SO CUTE.
-Belle
The doctor needs a pet. Not some smug tin little shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMQ7X3wauRQ

>>79083873
Oh! Yes, actually - thinking of it in terms of the sights, sounds, smells etc. makes a lot of sense; one of my favorite Dalek things is in a book (probably Baxendale's) where it says they smell like "ozone and decay".

>>79083990
Hello, Cloister. How you doing?

Did you ask Belle about Shit Trips yet?

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>>79083990
>Belle's face when she's watching the 100th Anniversary special on her own because you didn't live to see it

>>79084026
Mmhmm.

If you need any examples of good fanfic, here's this: http://studyofrunning.livejournal.com/3105.html . Much of the first half isn't shipping at all. I especially like Helter-Skelter, Ulysses, the Boy Who Killed Time (both versions), Annotations, and that Irksome Word And Task fic (go for whofic link.) Most of them have great descriptions, and almost none of them are shippy. It's what started me reading fanfiction.

>>79084227
Cheers m8. Will have a look and hopefully learn some stuff for the next anthology. SPOILERS at some point I'm gonna do a story called The Two Cribbins where Wilf winds up in the Cushing universe and helps Tom fight off aliens by singing a bad novelty song

>>79084412
Good to hear. Not sure when Shit Trips II is starting submissions, unless someone else wants to run it.

And I liked your story. Wasn't that much description, but it worked for the humorous dialogue the story.

By the way, most or all those stories in that link are one chapter, I believe. And Irksome Tasks has the Shalka Doctor in it. Even look at some of the othet stories in Shit Trips (Trash Talks and The Hybrid were good for that. Fuuko's Story is basically pure description.)

>>79082689
>11 insufferable

Woah there. The Eleventh Doctor had depth.

>>79083570
>5th Doctor
>>I think he'd get through it and start the cycle but I don't think he quite has the grit to stick it out for 2 billion years.
But... it plays out the same way every time. If you can do one cycle you can do any number.

>>79084678
Myabe insufferable isn't the right word, but the fact that 11 actively undid his sacfice during the Time War made me dislike him as well as his continued "angry face speeches". I like the fact this iteration is the final face in his original regeneration cycle meaning he's the culmination of everything that came before. Also he starred in one of my top 5 who episodes, The God Complex

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>>79084892
Right when he reaches the diamond wall, he experiences a flood of memories from ALL of his previous lives in the confession dial. There's the potential that the day will come when he finally crumples under all the compounding stresses of dying over and over again

>>79084596
fuck you immigrant

>>79084070
I have. She's all but finished it the thought. Just one or maybe two stories to go perhaps. She asked when I thought the next one might come out and I know she had someone at her one job read one of them too. I want to say it was memetic upgrade, that's the missy cyberman one right? Anyway they thought it was funny.
>>79084103
>implying she won't throw herself upon my funerary pyre out of duty and grief and not knowing what a women should do outside of the kitchen and sandwich making, not knowing how to vote, own land. As it should be.

>>79083421
>I don't mean edgy in that shallow sense, I mean the plotline is that the Doctor has to save Adolf Hitler—and cajole Ace, of all companions, into helping.
I guess, but wasn't the reason something like Hitler is so shit that he has to stay in charge because it's the best way to ensure the Nazis lose? Doesn't seem that dark, it seems more like it's having a laugh at Hitler's expense. And Nazis working with aliens doesn't seem that far off from what you might see in Classic Who.

>>79083294
Now THIS is edgy.

>>79085094
What's wrong, anon?

>>79085145
kek, I love how you're leaning into this misogyny meme.

>>79083644
>I don't know what specifically triggered it
More than likely hit too close to home for the types of people who would complain about a thing like that

>>79085182
fuck off

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>>79085244
Well if you can't beat em (like the good old days), join em right?

youtube.com/watch?v=yq5TtrqdHWA

>>79083111
The episodes had some of the horror/human element and a non villan character (Danny) willingly turning into the Cybermen which the others from NuWho lacked. I'm not saying it was GOAT or anything, I don't even like Death In Heaven very much.

>I remember them as the worst instance of the cybermen yet.
But every other NuWho appearance was worse.

>>79083646
It is. It's the same copy and pasted stuff every time. At least its not a shitty forced meme.

Undead danny asking clara to kill him was kino

>>79085395
>The episodes had some of the horror/human element and a non villan character (Danny) willingly turning into the Cybermen which the others from NuWho lacked
I agree with this.

>But every other NuWho appearance was worse.
I don't agree with this. How were the other cybermen worse? Nightmare in Silver was pretty bad with the superspeed and auto-updating, but flying around and converting skeletons into cybermen via rain is pretty shocking. It overpowers them to the point where they aren't even remotely interesting/scary, and don't even seem like cybermen anymore.

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>>79085645
Missy killing Chang was kino.

>>79085678
Did you forget the giant robot Cybermen from Next Doctor? Or the dog Cybermen? Or the first one with the retarded davros clone backstory? The others were definitely worse. I agree the water stuff was dumb but not as dumb as the others.

The only nuwho story to do cybermen right was rise of cybermen/age of steel which showed the horror of the conversion line process and didn't have any "my emotions and love are strong enough to reject the full conversion" shit

>If Moffat didn't do Series 10 we would have had a THREE YEAR GAP because BBC hired someone who has other contractual commitments
>Basically stayed on to keep the show and Capaldi's Doctor alive and give him a proper ending

thank you based moffat.

>>79085856
>capaldi spent a long time undecided about whether he'd stay on
>said he'd stay if he liked what he heard of chibnall's plans
>he decided to leave

hmmmmm

>>79085916
really activates your almonds.

>>79085916
This kills me

>>79085735
>Did you forget the giant robot Cybermen from Next Doctor? Or the dog Cybermen?
I did forget those, actually. But that's not really what I'm talking about. I'm talking about iterations of the cybermen. While very dumb, neither of those really count. One was a stupid vehicle and the other was some weird secondary design, not something that replaced the cybermen. The dog thing is more akin to the cybermats than cybermen.

And I'm not sure what your point is about The Age of Steel. We're talking about worse iterations of cybermen, not worse stories. And that one can't be worse than all the others because it's the entire foundation of the new series cybermen. All of them since then are cybus cybermen.

>>79085916
>said he'd stay if he liked what he heard of chibnall's plans
Do we actually have a source on this quote?

>>79085916
>said he'd stay if he liked what he heard of chibnall's plans
no he didn't

Even if Moffat wasn't leaving this would be the most likely time for Capaldi to step down

>>79086498
Damn the 3 year curse

>>79086317
I just listened and can't find what I described.
I guess he never said this or said it in some other radio interview? Idunno. Sorry guys.

We could always search 4plebs for the earliest instance of that quote and see where it came from

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What happens if S11 is a disaster?

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>>79086845
We make fun of it

>>79086845
Canceled

>>79086845
>if

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Either
>coal hill is never shown again
>coal hill is brought back but the class crew are never mentioned again

Whis is more likely?

>>79086938
#Class gets renewed.

>>79086995
I said likely

>>79086809
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06r3whl

I think it may have been this one. Chris Evans seems like the type of person to ask a generic "When are you leaving Doctor Who?" question. I can't find it to listen to anywhere though.

>>79086878
classic

reminder i never finished watching it

>>79086878
Was Class any good? Since BBC3 went online I simply haven't felt the need to go hunting for its shows, when I did watch it it it was because I was flicking through TV channels and nothing else was on.

>>79087148
Did someone photoshop fuse Matt and Chris together or did Chris look like Matt when he was young?

>>79087163
It was mediocre at best

>>79087204
nah its a real picture

>>79086995
Good joke, Immigrant.

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>12 will never have a multi Doctor episode with Sean Pertwee as the 3rd Doctor
>Craig Ferguson will never guest star in an episode alongside Peter
>12 will never meet Captain Jack
Feels bad man

>>79087163
It had its moments. Got a bit too heavy with the teen romance melodrama at times
Doubt it'll get renewed unless the yanks somehow eat it up when it's aired over there alongside s10

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Now would be a reasonable time to copy-paste one of your conversation starters, spam-anon. Since there's been no new posts for an hour.

>>79084026
I've never thought about what a Dalek might smell like. I've thought about the Cybermen though - the originals with human parts showing must smell horrible.

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Tenth_Doctor

Why does every Doctor page have the worst photo they could find? Fuck he looks so punchable in that picture

>>79088943
>I've never thought about what a Dalek might smell like.
Ever since Iris Wildthyme talked about eating a Dalek mutant on the half-shell, and how her equivalent of Abslom Daak died from it but she just found it mildly weird, I've wondered.

>>79089038
>her equivalent of Abslom Daak
… or possibly her equivalent of mid-VNA Space Bitch Ace; it's not clear, but it works either way.

>>79089030
>Why does every Doctor page have the worst photo they could find?
Because you're looking at the wrong wiki.

http://doctorwhogeneral.wikia.com/wiki/Tenth_Doctor

The first picture is dead sexy.

>>79087163
>Was Class any good?
There's two pretty good episodes, I think 6+7. You can wait away with watching just 1, then the good ones, then making up your own finale and pretending that's how it actually ended, and then I think it'll be a pretty good show.

Of course if it gets renewed, you may need to watch the finale, but I'll bet you guess the important parts right anyway.

So, the RTD years were basically ripping off cool Larry Miles ideas without actually getting them. The Moffat years were ripping off Larry Miles while trying to recontextualize everything to mean something different this time just to piss Larry off even more. There's really not that much Loz left to rip off. So what will the Chibnall years be?

1. Lance Parkin ripoffs. Everything is about how the Doctor's/Gallifrey's past connects to some future dystopian empire.
2. Ben Aaronovitch's ahead-of-its-time-for-1998-but-now-very-dated post-Cyberpunk/proto-Iain Banks ripoffs.
3. Paul Cornell ripoffs. Owls fucking everywhere.
4. Gareth Roberts ripping off Douglas Adams ripoffs (but none of Gareth's original stuff).
5. Dave Stone's ripping off Douglas Adams ripoffs (but none of Dave's original stuff).
6. RTD ripping off Miles ripoffs.
7. JNT/Gary Russell continuity porn 24/7.
8. Platt/Cartmel The Other has finally arrived.

>>79088943
Why would they smell horrible? I imagine they'd be very clean and wouldn't allow their flesh to rot or anything like that.

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>>79089030
Why the fuck do they do this?
Why not just have a heading "memorable moments"?
Why have these clips at all?
I already know the answer is 'autism' but I felt this needed pointing out

>>79089376
The NuWho hybrids (Cybusmen with Mondasian tech) seem to be just human central nervous systems in robot bodies (possibly with skeletons? I'm not quite sure how Deep Water is supposed to make sense scientifically…). Obviously, they're not going to smell.

But if you're talking 60s Cybermen, with human muscles and faces and probably full skin stuffed inside PVC? Ignore the dead skin problem; do you know what skin smells like after just a few hours of not being able to breathe or sweat? Meanwhile, after a couple days, your skin flora become very abnormal—surely you've worn a cast, or smelled under someone else's, right?

I suppose you could keep that very clean with, say, a bunch of nanorobots/bespoke bacteria, but if you have that kind of tech, there's no reason to put a weak human body inside your suit in the first place.

>>79089908
>Why the fuck do they do this?
I'm sure their forums have a long discussion about it.

My guess is: Editor A thought it would be a cool idea and spent 300 hours doing a few test pages. Editor B threw a hissy fit because they violate some policy. Editor C came up with a way that they could be done without violating that policy, at a cost of 5 times as much work. Editor D got in an argument with editor C, and after a few days they came up with a policy that would allow editor A to do what he wanted with only 8 times as much work. So Editor A started doing the work.

And meanwhile, nobody had ever talked about whether it would actually make the pages better; they had consensus among 4 people that it didn't violate any policies, and one of them was willing to do the work, and that's what really that matters, right?

>>79089059
>possibly her equivalent of mid-VNA Space Bitch Ace
I always figured that Iris's Ace-equivalent left to fight the Daleks and instead of coming back as a Space Bitch came back as a Barry Letts-style pseudo-Buddhist and got progressively more annoying, but at some point she went to the back of the bus to start transcendentally-meditating for universal peace and everyone just forgot she was there.

I guess that does kind of break Scarlett Empress, because Sam would have noticed her and taken her on as a role model, wouldn't she…

>>79089908

I tried editing the page for shenanigans
Each of these have their own heading because of how wikia's infobox system works. They must have made a template that includes those headings, but to the end user there's just some boxes to copy/paste a link into

tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Infobox_Individual
That doesn't answer the question as to why each individual video requires its own heading because surely in the CSS they'd have the option for it to not need one

>>79090106
>That doesn't answer the question as to why each individual video requires its own heading
Well, you want an optional heading for each one, so you can have "behind the scenes" and "leitmotif" and whatever instead of "here's 8 videos, you probably only care about 1, but you'll have to play all of them to find it".

But yeah, I don't know why the template can't just allow some of the headings to be blank, in which case it puts a thinner border or something.

>>79090187
Wait, looking at the template, there's no custom headings—it's "trailer", "clip1", "clip2", "clip3", "leitmotif" for everyone. So the template hardcodes "Another memorable moment" and so on for clips 1-3? That's pretty stupid.

>>79090228
That's my understanding of it
They could have just not had a heading for clip2 and clip3 so they were just underneath clip1's "memorable moments" heading, but whatever genius created the template never considered that they didn't each individually require a heading

>>79090312
I hate mediawiki templates. You can tell a badly designed descriptive language that should have been scrapped and replaced with something Turing-complete from the start as soon a someone writes code in it like the "child" crap at the start of that template. Anyone capable of working with your language should be too smart to bother.

>>79090312
So yeah, if you just take that exact same template and remove the headings for clip2 and clip3, it actually works just fine. But again, anyone capable of figuring that out will be too smart to bother. Unless someone else gets him all worked up about it by making fun of it somewhere, like you did, you bastard.

So, I'm going back and listening to all the early-days BF audios that I either missed at the time or can't remember.

I stalled on Scaredy Cat, because for some reason it sounds terrible. Someone either reassure me that I can sit through it, or tell me it's worth skipping, please.

>>79083689
>>79083294
I like this backstory actually.

It like the tragedy of the Masters being robbed of his life. It also provides a reason as to why the Doctor wants to save him so much. as for the doctor being bad, it does make sense when you keep in mind he was a scared child.

makes me want to see this adapted and even give an end to the masters story, where he gets redeemed.

>>79086845
We fap to Hayley and it's all good again.

>>79090646
>makes me want to see this adapted
With who? I don't see it working with Missy. Or really anyone besides Beevers except maybe Jacobi. (Not even Delgado.) I'm glad they got lucky once and Ainley turned it down; no reason to push that…

>and even give an end to the masters story, where he gets redeemed.
This isn't the story to end him with, and definitely not the story to redeem him with. The ending has to be the way it is. Maybe even go less subtle with the question of whether the Master would be beyond redemption even without Death coming to claim him (although right after Davros, that probably would have been a mistake).

>>79090884
I don't see it working with Missy either although I don't see much working with Missy desu.

This wouldn't be the end more of a set up to an arc. although that's clearly a case of me expecting to show to be something it's not.

>>79090884
>With who
Also, Seven was Time's Champion; Doctor Hayley is someone who was Time's Champion ages ago, and doesn't think like that anymore.

Not to mention that Time and Death and the rest of the Eternals left the universe because of the various time wars.

So, you'd need to recreate the whole NA Eternals mythology as something else just to make the story work.

>>79090936
>I don't see it working with Missy either although I don't see much working with Missy desu.
I actually really like Missy, but she needs to be written differently.

And hopefully the next Master will be someone different yet again, not a bad attempt to clone Delgado or something.

>>79090949
It sounds like I'm just championing my suggestion here but you wouldn't need to recreate everything. just reintroduce Death.

>>79091056
>just reintroduce Death.
I'm trying to imagine a Chibnall series introducing the Time Lords' anthropomorphic personification of Death without any of the other mythology from Cornell's books, or the stuff he was working against, and… yeah, it's not impossible they could make it work, but wary is an understatement.

So nobody wants to reassure me about Scaredy Cat or warn me away from it?

I guess I'll bite the bullet and give it a try…

>>79091150
don't need to explain shit
>there were things called Eternals
>they have powers beyond space and time
>this one is the personification of Death

that's all you need, have Death show up earlier in a story to establish her maybe give a few other titbits here and there

also I don't expect Chibnalls to do anything like this. (he might do something with the Shakri) I was just saying I liked the backstory.

>>79090590
>>79091240
I don't remember much about it, but I didn't think it was absolutely terrible.
For what it's worth, it's very short.

>>79089979
I've had a cast before yeah, good point. I don't see why cybermen couldn't remove their suits for cleaning regularly though. Letting bacteria form doesn't seem very logical.

Having said that, I've never really understood the early cybermen designs anyway. I could never tell if the silver fabric was supposed to be exactly what it looked like, or if we were meant to believe it was some kind of metal.

>>79091047
>And hopefully the next Master will be someone different yet again, not a bad attempt to clone Delgado or something.
what did you mean by this? none of the televised masters have been like delgado's.

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>>79091047
>not a bad attempt to clone Delgado or something
None of them are even close to being like Delgado

>>79091047
>not a bad attempt to clone Delgado or something.

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The new Doctor. Monganon has been hinting at it for months.

>>79092433
I'd be okay with it if Karl was his companion

>>79092433
Why does the Tardis insist on emulating wood for its outer shell? The majority of real police boxes were concrete, so if she's going to mess about with the construction why not Adamantium or some other impossibly hard material?

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>>79092667
Nah, make Karl the Doctor, and Ricky the companion.

>>79093252
The TARDIS is a Mackenzie-Trench Mark II Metropolitan Police call box. Older ones (which were still around in the early 60s) were made of teak, later ones were concrete with teak doors.

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http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2017-02-02/david-tennant-says-olivia-colman-would-be-a-magnificent-choice-as-the-next-doctor
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2017/02/02/david-tennant-olivia-colman-would-magnificent-doctor/

Tennant suggests pic related for next Doctor, I fully agree. She would be outstanding.

>>79093947
They are just good friends because of Broadchurch.

S10 hype train w/ gatiss, ice warriors, memeory police, runa munro, movellans etc?

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>>79093947
>She would be outstanding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdU_YxzRjbU

I love him so much. I really do. His voice, his attitude.

>>79093947
I remember I suggested her if they ever went female (who/didn't like it). I went off the idea of the gender change altogether now but if it was her I could live with it.

>>79093252
Because it doesn't need to emulate impossibly hard metal, it's nearly impossible to get past its defenses as it is.

>'Fady Elsayed, who stars in the Doctor Who spin-off Class, will guest star in an episode of Doctor Who.'

WHAT?

>>79094643
Lul. I'm fine with that.

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What alien would you cast him to play?

>>79094686
The Brave defiant ruler of Peladon

>>79094220
bump

>>79094759
The hype is gone mate. The Golden Era is dead.

>>79094686
13th doctor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTVvaAi7usY
Who is this guy? He has a channel fully dedicated to hating Steven Moffat.
I would not be surprised if he visits /who/ regularly.

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>>79094875
It's Lawrence.

>The last time I tried to e-mail Steven Moffat was, predictably, shortly after he got his sneery Scots backside into the producer's chair. No, it's true: even his backside is capable of sneering. I asked him whether he could possibly lift my exile from BBC Books, (a) because it'd keep me quiet without requiring him to have any personal contact with me, and (b) because I'd probably do a better job of writing for the re-vamped range than anyone else who might possibly want to do it (remember, he actually liked my work, at least when it wasn't pointing in his direction). He never replied, and a couple of months later, it was announced that Michael Moorcock would be writing a Doctor Who novel. Call me paranoid, but just for a moment, it felt as if someone were deliberately trying to prove me wrong.

>Then again, maybe I shouldn't have started the e-mail with the words "Dear Cheeky-Chops".

>>79094643
..Where the fuck is your source?

>>79094875
he calls him stephen Muppet, i giggled

just nit picky.

>>79094777
trips confirm

>>79095000
His anus.

>>79095000
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who_(series_10)

>>79095262
so he's playing a character called ‘Aten Olama’

>>79095262
The citation for that sentence leads to his website, which, if you scroll down, does say he guest starred in an episode.

http://www.beaumontlondon.com/clients/fady-elsayed

>>79095262
>>79095346
Maybe he's not the only Class cast member guest starring? Then again, the website the citation is from could be wrong.

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>>79094220
Here's the S9 one but there is a S10 one but its incomplete

>>79095810
I'm up for doing a new one if no one wants to do it but I'm not that good.

Then we have established one thing only...

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How come nobody told me this show was GOAT?

>>79095810
Oh back when we thought Colony Sarf was going to be the Master - good times.

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Most attractive TARDIS team? pic related

The Mirror are going to report the identity of the new Doctor within the next week:

Matthew Gravelle.

A new TARDIS set is being built too. The logo is staying the same.

Also details of Capaldi's Doctor's final story involving a classic series villain.

>>79096566
Either 5/Peri or 10/Martha

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>>79096566
Easy

Missy's TARDIS is featured in Series 10. It's just the current TARDIS set with a purple time rotor and curtains over the roundels.

>>79096870
tbf id happily be fucked by either of them

>>79096830
>pedo from broadchurch
lmao
we knew it would be broadchurch star, but pedo one!

By the way, any links?

>>79096830
>>79096875
I thought they were getting someone young and female that they met in December? And what classic villain anon? (dubs if Sutekh)

>>79096898
If sucking Capaldi's dick was the condition to get to fuck Jenna, I wouldn't really mind a threesome.

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>>79093947
She scrubs up well.

>>79096830
I know you're lying but I actually wouldn't mind that.

Thoughts /who/? https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/2780546/fans-are-convinced-kris-marshall-is-the-next-doctor-who-as-he-steps-down-from-death-in-paradise-just-in-time-to-take-over-from-peter-capaldi/

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>>79096830
>so details of Capaldi's Doctor's final story involving a classic series villain.
It will be the Chumblies right?

>>79097172
>kris-marshall
I'd be ok with this.

>>79097314
Eh, wasn't he the concrete blowjobs boyfriend in love and Monsters, be a bit awkward if he was the Doctor!

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>>79097343
No that was Marc Warren.

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>>79096830
>le fake insider meme

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Why did the younger audience not respond to me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPKgPB80jNA

>we will never get a thing like this in the end of moffs era

WHY LIVE
GIVE ME A SINGLE REASON

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We need more Timelady feet in this thread.

>>79097440
prove it anon

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Reddit mods started a Doctor Who Discord. Actually pretty fun, zero showrunner hate, lots of good-natured shitting on everyone and everything, everyone loves Capaldi and shits on Tennant. Plus constant EU discussion (mostly Big Finish and Faction Paradox). There's also a VNA EDA bookclub, regular Doctor Who quizzes, and weekly Big Finish nights (we just started the War Doctor stuff). There are already a few /who/res on there, but it'd be pretty fun to get some more.

https://discord.gg/pq7BaQ4#link_discord

>>79097742
>le shitting on Tennant meme

>>79097742
FUCK OFF

Are the Torchwood Big Finish's part of a series? Could I just grab a random episode or would I have to listen from the first one?

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>>79097510
Because the BBC decided to bow to the God of Strictly, and broadcast your episodes at a time when knackered parents have already put their mini lookalikes to bed.

>>79096830
ew a bald doctor lmao.. the next doctor needs to be young and hot ffs

On the 3rd of March it will be revealed that Kris Marshall is the Thirteenth Doctor Who

>>79094686
The Master.

>>79096368
Surely the great viewing figures and critical praise were a clue?

>>79097742
I bet Cloister is there

>>79098265
Farage isn't charming enough to play the Master.

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>>79098480
Idunno. He seems to have amassed a cult following.

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Post qt Jennas

>>79098020
You can get a random one. There are hints of a bigger storyline here and there, but each episode can be enjoyed on its own. Just avoid the big anniversary story for now.

>>79094875
Holy shit I knew who this would be before I even clicked on it. Used to get in arguments with him on Doctor Who trailers because he'd nitpick stupid shit.

>>79098784
It's been over a year, anon. Just accept that the Jenna craze is over and Hayley Atwell is the new hotness.

MATT SMITH BIG FINISH CONFIRMED

https://twitter.com/bigfinish/status/827785101618663424

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>>79098899

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>>79098899

>>79098899
Nice digits.

I was gonna be with you forever...

>>79094307
>Thor 2: Dark Skies
>I imagine it would be out in the summer

He just did not give one solitary shit

If the rumours of S11 not being broadcast until the end of 2018 are true, I am going to burn my Broadchurch DVD.

I may be dead by Autumn 2018. Why is Chibnall doing this? Couldn't they just have hired someone who is actually going to do the job well, like Gareth Roberts?

9: You were fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. And you know what? So was I.
10: I don't wanna go.
11: I will always remember when the Doctor was me.
12: ?

>>79099962
Ayy lmao

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>>79098454
I can't imagine why you'd think that. Sounds like too much on topic discussion with the literal reddit police. Not a single mention of memery. I'd rather a trip to the DMV.

>>79099962
12: I literally do not remember my previous incarnation

>>79099962
12: I never did settle as this one

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>>79099962
Now...they've all gone. All gone. None of them ever understood. Not even young Pearl, or Nardole. And then there's Clara... and River. Perhaps I should go back to my own time. To Gallifrey. But I can't... I can't...

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>>79100415
>Nardole

>>79099962
12: I am a good man.

>>79099962
Everything ends, and it's always sad. But everything begins again too, and that's always happy. Be happy.

>>79100550
He already answered the question in series 8 and concluded that he was an idiot

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>>79100606
I've seen this one before in the show. I think time said it?

>>79100650
Fuck off Smallfat/F. Cogherino.

>>79099962
"It's all downhill from here."

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>>79100671
I don't know why you're so rude to smallfat, I'm not even him :^)

12: It's time for someone else to have a go.

>>79100747
Yes you are :^)

9: You were fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. And you know what? So was I.
10: I don't wanna go.
11: I will always remember when the Doctor was me.
12: *BRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPP*

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>>79099962
"Shut up!! Shut-titty up up up!!!! I'm concentrating on a bra size!"

>>79099962
12: "Change, Bill. Change. That's life."
[We hear the creak of the TARDIS door]
[Bill turns, surprised]
12: "That's Gareth."
[Reveal: Gareth Roberts as the new Doctor]

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>>79100759
No I'm not but my other account at gb used smallfat avatars exclusively so maybe you're onto something

>>79099616
Are you dying

>>79100876
We're all dying anon

>>79099962
Ow I bumped my head

>>79100893
You don't want to see Chibnall Who anyway.

>>79100809
Admitting now, not far from revealing yourself :^)

>>79101043
>>79101043
>>79101043
NEW THREAD

>>79100415
>Pearl

>>79097216
Aren't chumbleys in S10?