Artist thread. Post your art and what you are currently working on.

I'm currently working on giving enough of a fuck to pick up a pencil.

>>9887648
Drawing digitally has motivated me to go back to pen and paper due to how much less time it takes for me to draw. Just draw whatever comes to mind for some warm-up sketches.

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So I recently took up drawing, and decided with something pretty basic.

This right here is a scene from one of the greatest movies of all time, "Gamera 3: The Revenge of Irys".

I personally think my line work captured the overall personality and scale of both Kaiju in a decent manner, but I feel like its missing something

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>>9887717
And here's the original shot for reference
Please note that the top one is my original work, and I did it all free hand, and the bottom one is the actual source material

>>9887717
>>9887733
I didn't want a shitpost thread, anon.

>>9887835
What did I do?

>>9887876
You know very well

>>9887648
can't believe we are currently working on the same exact thing anon

>>9887931
There is nothing wrong with wanting to draw Kaiju

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So this is a request I'm currently working on and I'm having trouble getting her hands right, particularly her left one. She's meant to be resting it on her thigh/hip but with the thumb on her waist. Any red-line guys able to help out?

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>>9888012
dolphuck guy here, tried but not too confident about it

>>9888374
Hmmm... looks a bit off but it does give me an idea of what to do. Thanks.

>>9888400
np

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character ref and bunny
too lazy to line

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:(

>>9888623
>close your eyes and draw random lines
>look at what you made
>try to invent a weird creature based on the squiggles

how do I get gud
pleas

>>9889578
lots of drawing in general and observational drawing of things and creatures out in the real world. Sounds like a lame answer, but just lots of study and practicing things that emulate the illusion of rl.

Bumping because this thread is a good idea

>>9890821
Not enough people, I welcome everyone to invade the drawthreads since this is drawing anyway and is better than requesters having a shitpost fight

>>9891055
Requesters are the reason I don't go to drawthreads. Most of them are just so pathetic. Some probably have so much time spent requesting and hitting f5 that they could have learned to draw by now.

>>9891165
Not him but I draw as well as make requests. I'd like to see pics in styles besides my own.

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>>9891165
>Some probably have so much time spent requesting and hitting f5 that they could have learned to draw by now.
that thought tears me apart from the inside

I'd post art but isn't that, like, attention whoring on a chinese puppet board?

>>9891836
I'd say you're attention-whoring right now for drawing attention to yourself.

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Fellow drawfriend here. What sites do you guys hit up the most in terms of furry art (aside from FA)? I'm considering having a place I just dump all my sketch requests and other unrelated work. Got quite a few furry pin-ups and some fat-art as well.

>>9892348
Inkbunny. Love the fact that you can submit more than one sketch under the same submission, so you don't spam the gallery. Better site than FA overall in terms of technical stuff.

>>9887698
i have a friend who draws rough drafts on paper first and then scans it to draw digitally.

anyone got any good guides on drawing lizardmen in various perspectives?

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>>9887622

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>>9892597

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>>9892366
Start with basic 1point perspective, then move your way up to 2point, 3point, and so on if you wanna get complicated, although all you really need to know are 1, 2, and 3. Keep your lizardmen boxes and rectangles for now. Pic I posted is I believe is from "How to Draw" by Loomis, but Sycra on YouTube has good perspective tutorials.

Nice thread

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I finished this one yesterday.

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Made my first draw in sai yesterday. What should I try yo make It leas shitty?

>>9893685
What kind of dumb nigger takes a picture of their screen instead of screenshotting?
Assuming you're actually looking for advice and not shitposting:

Remove sidemouth,
Maybe use a stabilizer to make your lines more smooth,
Basic anatomy isn't too bad but it's a little janky,
Overall not bad if you're new.

>>9893685
How old are you?

>>9893756
The Ethernet port of muy desktop is Broken, thats why I took a photo.thanks for the advice, I'll set the stabilizer and make something

>>9893899
Don't get too used to the stabilizer though. Preferably don't go above 15, so you don't learn to depend on it.

>>9887698
drawing digitally has made me realise that giving me an infinite amount of layers to work with turns me into a neurotic fuck who is too afraid to erasing something because I might regret it later
pencil and paper is so much simpler, at least more straight forward

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>>9893763
22. I have little experience in digital, and used use Photoshop only for fixing and shop my inks. I'm looking forward to make up this year tho

>>9893947
I used to think like that, but as I got bettet I started to gain confidence and just thought "I'll draw it again if I need it".

>>9887648

i can physically life the pencil but not spiritually

anyone else here painfully slow at drawing something? it takes me hours to draw something that looks like a quick sketch, and in the end the pose isn't even that interesting anyway.
my brain just seems to fucking struggle on the simplest shit at times
I have pretty bad ADD and depression so maybe that's the biggest issue. Still, I wish I wasn't so painfully slow.

I'm even too afraid to post my sketches anywhere, I usually hate the fuck out of them even if other people think they're not that bad, but I guess that's just typical depressed artist mindset.

>>9893988
You get faster as you get more experience. I used to need 2-3 hours just to get the basic sketch down, but now it's more like 15 mins after a few years.
Making the finished product never really got much faster... still clocking at ~10 hours, but at least the quality has gotten better.

>>9894039
Problem is I've been drawing for years, not serious though (until recently) but sketching every second day at least.

But the absolute worst thing is that some days I'm crazy productive and shit drawings out like nothing, but most days I'm just painfully slow.
Just wish it were more consistent.

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Here are some sketches that I've worked on. I'll post more later.

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>>9894085

>>9894085
>>9894117
I see you have a thing for the gays.

Other than that, neat sketches, maybe get other times of bodies for practice if you want that.

>>9894146
I'm not really sure what you mean by that but thanks anyways.

>>9894220
I'm sure he meant other types of bodies.

>>9894229
>I see you have a thing for the gays.
No, I meant that.

>>9894258
not him but im guessing it was a joke about nitw

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>>9893988
I know exactly what you mean. I've been trying to remedy that lately by drawing things quicker instead of actually trying to make them look good.
Overall the quality of my drawings has dropped, but I feel I've got much better at stroking lines the way I want.
It'll still take me like 30-45 minutes to doodle something that doesnt look scribbly and gross, but I feel like it's a better quality/time ratio and I've noticed myself improving overall because I spend more time trying new techniques than trying to work well with one style.

pic related, 15 minute doodle just to prove to myself I can. It's kinda crappy and minimal, but a year ago it would have taken me over an hour to produce something similar, not to mention spending more time needlessly cleaning up lines when I could be improving more important things like shading or anatomy.

>>9894305
I guess so.

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Juggling work, drawing, chores and more work is hard. Have some commission I was working on yesterday.

>>9893988
It really depends on the ideas. Sometimes I can do shit in few days, sometimes it takes months to a year. Add work and sick sense of perfectionism to that and you have a recipe for disaster.

Do you have galleries anywhere? The main reason I don't really post my art, even though I'd like some feedback, is that people will think "that's the guy who forces his shit on 4chan".

>>9893685
You really need to work on anatomy and body proportions.

>>9893685
your not going to make it

>>9894412
Man, just post your art.
No one is going to think "that's the guy who forces his shit on 4chan"
The only one that does think like that is you.

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>>9894383
>Add work and sick sense of perfectionism to that and you have a recipe for disaster.
are you me

>>9894412
I literally post nothing anywhere, except sketches to friends for their take on it. I don't think of my work as anything more than sketches so I don't feel like they actually should be posted anywhere since in my eyes they're not finished.

This is what I drew last night, and even then I'm not happy with it. My perfectionism is going to ruin me.

>>9889578

habe u try drawin

>>9894468
> are you me
No, but few of the artfriends I have have the same problem, just like me a friend of mine has been working on a pic I commissioned off him for 2 years because he wants it to look "great". I can relate... I had some commissioners wait a long ass time because I felt I would under-deliver. And despite their general upset over the time it took, they were always happy with the outcome. Art is bizarre thing for me cause it makes me happy and furious at the same time.

>>9894468
got some redwall vibes from that, cute as hell

>>9889578
haev u tried drawign w/the pensil in ur pee hole

>>9894515
I was trying to draw that mouse from the Moss game reveal. I fucked up and didn't make the bandanna big enough/made the neck too long. It was nice to draw something from reference for once though. I'm usually a boring fuck and draw the same shit over and over.
>>9894515
cheers. Drawing cute mice/buns is all I do so I at least try put effort in.

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>>9894570
I have no idea why I quoted you twice and wrote two completely different replies
these antivirals are killing me

have another cute bun for the troubles

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>>9894603

Nice. Mice are nice.

Have something I've sketched out at 4 AM in return.

How do I convince myself to draw? I haven't in months. It feels like a chore now. I don't have any motivation or energy to do it. I'd much rather play shitty video games or jerk off in my spare time.

>>9894649
don't bother most people don't amount to anything so unless it makes yo happy it's a waste of time.

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>>9893988
ya. some people have an easier time visualizing. i spent a few hours sketching something that ended up looking pretty shitty, then a friend of mine spent 5 minutes sketching up a similar idea that fixed everything.

even days on drawings just come out as mediocre or worse.

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>>9894603
>cute bun
>clearly a mouse
I'm losing it. Christ

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What's the weakest link here? I just started doing lineless backgrounds, so I'm pretty new to that.

>>9894649
And here I'm having a problem with not feeling like gaming even though I shelled 25€ for Witcher 3. Feels like wasted money even though I used to love the first game...

>>9894649
I'm half in the same boat, mostly because I'm trying to get out of it. I'm the sad fuck with ADD, and I realised that just constantly satisfying myself with games and other quick satisfactions all the time fucked my brain chemistry up. It's naive to think I'll just cut it all out of my life and do nothing but draw all day, but I'm starting to really cut back how much time I play games and browse the internet.
Maybe I'm too far gone, but I guess I'll find out how well it works. I do love drawing when I actually do draw, but it's so much easier to say "fuck it" and play a few quick games, shitpost on 4chan, browse the internet, rinse and repeat.

>>9894603
That cute expression... Daww

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Just finished this. I call it, "nearly out of band-aids".

>>9894644
I think I've seen you post this before, or at least something similar.
I love the aesthetic you have with your sketching.

>>9894872
The anatomy is like those titans from that japanese cartoon.

>>9894468
>>9894383
'Perfectionist' is a pet peeve term of mine -- I used to use it a lot, too. It's a way of making a flaw sound more like a virtue.

If you're a 'perfectionist' it just means that you lack the knowledge / experience to finish what you're working on and you're languishing about it rather than trying to move forward.

Not trying to bust anyone's chops, but I felt like recognizing it as a problem that could be addressed helped me more than talking about it like it's some unchangeable aspect of my personality.

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>>9894881

I asked my flatmates what they thought about it before I posted it; and funnily enough one of them said the exact same thing - "they look like the titans from AoT."

You lot can have this one too.

>>9894885
Probably. I have a couple books I need to study from that I constantly put on the backburner, because my shit health makes wanting to actually put the time in to getting better a massive fucking chore. It's frustrating when you really want to draw, and want to get better at drawing, but when you finally sit down to do it you're completely drained, so you end up doodling and sketching.

I've been working on my health but fuck me, it's a long journey.

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>>9894660

Ever thought about getting into 3D?

>>9894660

i know that feel.
and i know that feel is an illusion, a LIE.

You are the most talented, most interesting, and most extraordinary person in the universe. And you are capable of amazing things.
all you have to do is to believe..

>>9894660
I've honestly started trying to walk around/get up from drawing when I'm stuck visualising something. Moving around gets the juices flowing.
It does help, but the hard part is getting it down into the drawing before you forget it again.

>>9894881
>>9894872
>>9894896
It's called the "airbrushed on abs because I haven't actually ever studied muscles before"

>>9895249

> I haven't actually ever studied muscles before

kek'd; I'm an anatomy student.

But yeah there's a big difference between knowing the names and structure and functions of bones and muscles, and being able to actually draw them, in perspective, underneath skin. Which is why "nearly out of band-aids" isn't super accurate and it's why my character's body is asymmetrical.

>>9895377
>I'm an anatomy student
i can tell you're lying through your teeth because every art college/university in north america and europe call it by it's actual name:
life drawing

it's life drawing.

and if you were an actual student you would know very well that the final exam involves drawing the skeleton and muscle of the human body, life-size, on a chalk or white board that starts from the floor and up the wall.

also you need to do some gestures and more studies because goddamn

>>9894896
massive head in comparison to those shoulders and the size of that torso. the torso is 3-4 heads tall typically (depending on the age and gender) while yours there is two. shoulders (for females) are often 2 to 2 and a half heads wide.

even for foreshortening those arms are too fucking short, so are the upper thighs because where the shirt bulges out near the bottom is her ass which means her ass is halfway up her spine.

so how about instead of practicing your ability to lie you go practice your art instead?

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>>9895506
>so how about instead of practicing your ability to lie you go practice your art instead?
WHEW

>>9895506
can you wreck me too? or is it too cartoony >>9894730

>>9895506

> i can tell you're lying through your teeth because every art college/university in north america and europe call it by it's actual name:
life drawing

No, I meant anatomy. I'm two years into neuroscience. I'm not an arts student, I'm a science student and I enjoy painting in my spare time. The point I was making was; I know the muscles scientifically. I know about the fibres that make up the rectus abdominis, the iliac crest, the serratus anterior and so on. I'm supposed to know the muscles medically.

But knowing the muscles medically doesn't translate into artistic skill. While I HAVE studied the muscles before, I haven't done so in an artistic way which is why I'm shit at drawing abs.

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I'm absolutely awful.

>>9894730

Hi I'm the abs guy / med guy / "fake art student" guy / liar, whichever you want to call me.

I'm not a furfag but that's some good shit there anon. I really like your style and how you've drawn the little shadows in the fur. The eyes are a bit large for my taste but I guess that's intentional on your behalf. The textures on the seat look good and help sell the seat as being real but the textures on the wood look fake as fuck.

>>9894730
I think the lineless background clashes with the cartoony Rita. Either have them both lineless, or both cartoony.

Also, protip: realistic lighting works well with thin/no outlines. On the other hand, flat areas of color work well with thick outlines.

>>9895584
And I'm a rocket surgeon.

What a fucking crock of shit. "weeeehh no you misunderstood i'm not actually an artist i studied anatomy but not -art- anatomy see it's different EXCEPT THE PART WHERE I DIDN'T SAY THAT IT WASN'T FOR ART IN MY ORIGINAL POST TO TRY AND PROVE YOU WRONG"

Yes I'm mad. I'm mad because you're clearly making excuses.

And excuses are what stops art. Excuses are what you use to avoid doing something that isn't going to be pleasant, like practice. Excuses are when you can't face the goddamn truth.

You want to be good at anatomy? You want to be good at art?

Stop giving me excuses and go out there and draw. I don't care about your life story, I don't care if you're a fucking rocket surgeon because this thread is about art.

Art.

Remember that.

No prior goddamn experience in any other field is going to protect you from yourself without it being detrimental.

Forget everything you know about anatomy(which I feel is nothing), go on quickposes.

https://www.quickposes.com/en/gestures/random

Set it to nude and then set it to show images upside down. Come back in a year and show us your progress then.

>>9895578
Overall decent. It's a cartoon so I can't wig out so hard about anatomy but you do really need to work on your shading when it comes to your lineless stuff.

Contrast is key for that, overblending and oversoftening the edges of the shadows will just make it look muddy and blurry.

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>>9894730
Not a fan of lined creatures on lineless backgrounds. It gives a "cartoon superimposed in real life" feel, as the cartoon really clashes with the background, which I don't particularly like.
other than that it seems pret-- OH GOSH how does her leg even connect?

>>9895676
>>9895506

>tfw you will never be roasted this hard

>>9895686
That's a seatbelt you moron.

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Working on pr0nz of my polar bear character getting rode by a lil' mouse gurl

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>>9895724
Ok, my b. The seatbelt looks like a similar texture to the seat, so I assumed it was just the seat.

>>9895724
I was about to shit on him for not knowing what a seatbelt was but you beat me to it anon.

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Here my latest drawing.
Yes It's porn.
Trashy furry porn.

I know I'm a bad artist.
I can't even call myself an artist.
Just want to know HOW bad i really am.

>>9895676
>You want to be good at anatomy? You want to be good at art?
>Stop giving me excuses and go out there and draw. I don't care about your life story, I don't care if you're a fucking rocket surgeon because this thread is about art.
>Art.
>Remember that.
>No prior goddamn experience in any other field is going to protect you from yourself without it being detrimental.
>Forget everything you know about anatomy

This is the part everyone forgets.

We all have an ideal image of what something looks like in our heads, but that's the issue. We only -assume- we know what it looks like.
Only by admitting that what we see in our heads is wrong can we stop symbol drawing and actually learn how to draw.

Symbol drawing is the issue 99% of the time.

Also nice roasting anon.

>>9895676
Whoah dude, chill.

He wasn't 'making excuses', he just laughed at the irony that he's a medical student that 'knows' about muscles, but he acknowledged that his medical knowledge of muscles doesn't automatically translate into being able to draw them.

Your motivational roast would have meant more if you didn't misunderstand that.

>>9895676
autism.txt

>>9895781
I wasn't being motivational and I already said that yes, I'm angry. "Chill dude lol" is just an empty and hollow attempt to look like the relaxed and easy-going guy attempting to inject their own brand of self-diluted sanity into something that has nothing to do with them.

>>9895777
The depth and angle are both pretty good in my book. I honestly have nothing to complain about here, except that vagina looks superimposed into the body, it doesn't feel natural. It LOOKS nice, but it's just kinda "there".

>>9895781
>>9895797
>I was proven wrong so the only thing I can do now is attack the anon as a person instead of the content of his posts.

>>9895676

IDK why you're so mad anon. You critiqued my painting, and that was fair. You're right, I haven't actually ever studied muscles before (for artistic purposes). I don't think I ever claimed to have.

All I did was say that I found that amusing because I have studied muscles before. I said, "I'm an anatomy student". ANAT241 is the name of the paper I'm taking right now. I'm not an art student and because I'm not an art student, I didn't realize that saying "I'm an anatomy student" would trigger you so hard and make you think I'm a liar. I'm not; I'm just referring to my subject by the name I know it as.

You then give me some more critique on my second painting, saying that the head's too large, the arms are too short and that I should go practice art instead. I'd love to but I have two fucking exams this week so that I can get a useful degree in neurosci instead of an arts degree. I'll let you know once I get a spare moment to actually work on my hobby.

And then, you make this comment, in which you explode because you think I'm making excuses or some shit. I'm not making excuses, unless "it's my hobby" is an excuse to you. You also say that you don't care about my life story or what I do because this thread is about art, which seems to suggest you'd critique anyone in this thread for having a life outside art because to you, that's an excuse and they should "go out there and draw" and that "no prior goddamn experience in any other field is going to protect you from yourself without it being detrimental."

I'd say I'm sorry for sharing a piece of my hobby with you, but I'm really not. You seem like the kind of person who'd get mad over anything just to win an internet argument.

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>>9895654
Thanks mang. I'm the titan guy lol. Also that wood is kinda supposed to look like cheap faux wood paneling, but of course it's a valid criticism.

>>9895662
I think my intention was to dabble in painting step by step and then try to make a whole painting when I git gud. I started with backgrounds because that seemed easier and continued because my watchers seemed to like it.

>>9895676
Yeah I'm really a complete beginner at this stuff still. That's my third completely lineless background. I know contrast is key, you should have seen the shit I tried to pull when I started drawing and wanted to try "lineless".

>>9895686
I envisioned it something like this.

>>9895822
that was my first post in the thread, idiot

you're being an autistic faggot because a reasonable person would go "oh, I misunderstood"

get help

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>>9895829
>exams
here's comes the life story nobody asked for.

>>9895829
You literally just proved me right by blabbing about your life and giving excuse after excuse.

>>9895829
>backpedaling this hard.

>>9895859
>>9895872
samefag

your behavior is not normal

>>9895848
oh I missed this one, it's a samefag too

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Here's a preview of a sketch that I'm working on for the nitwg.

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>>9895807

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>>9895848
Is this the same anon, still fuming over nothing? Or is this someone else?

>>9895859
No, all I did was explain what I've said earlier because the word "anatomy" means something different to you than what it means to me.

Somehow, you seem to think that I'm giving excuses. You're missing the point. I don't have anything to give an excuse for. I don't need to be good at art. I'm not studying it. My future doesn't depend on me being good at it.

I KNOW I'm not good at painting abs. I'm not trying to make "excuses" for not being good at painting abs, because I've never taken a fucking painting class.

> INB4 all of the above is ALSO blabbing about my life and giving excuse after excuse

>>9895872
At this point you'll label everything I say as backpedaling so forgive me for saying I don't give a shit.

For everyone else; I've dumped another one of my paintings. Feel free to rip it apart; I don't study art and I've never taken a class and if there's anything wrong with it I'd love your criticism so I can get better at something I do as a fucking hobby.

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>>9895884
>>9895892
I love the samefag excuse. Because if I post a screenshot you'll just say I used another browser.
It's such a cop-out and last-ditch attempt at coming out at top.

Insult me all you want, call me a neckbeard, call me a samefag. It doesn't make a difference because you're just grasping at straws now in an attempt to discredit me.

I've told you ways to get better at art. If you can't handle it then maybe go to deviantart and FA where you can get people banned for giving critique when it's not wanted. If you didn't want critique you shouldn't have posted in here to begin with.

Damn this turned into a shitfest.

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>>9895777
Same artist here.
I may be able to draw one character but i cant seem to put even two characters together.

>>9895892
>>9895884
>>9895844
>>9895822
>>9895781
Thanks for standing up for me whoever you are; clearly there are other people in this thread who aren't sane.

>>9895936
>I've told you ways to get better at art. If you can't handle it then maybe go to deviantart and FA where you can get people banned for giving critique when it's not wanted. If you didn't want critique you shouldn't have posted in here to begin with.

You didn't give me critique; you called me a liar for claiming I study anatomy (I do, for fucking medicine not art) and for making excuses for not studying art more (I don't study art more because I study anatomy, for fucking medicine not art).

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>>9895777
>>9895953
And I even fail at coloring.

Sorry to dump the thread.
This is the last example.

>>9895953

Grab yourself some of those poseable wooden figurines and use them as a guide for poses. Your previous picture was really good; too - I liked the angle as well.

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>ITT: people incapable of handling critique

i thought this was 4chan. where people have spines.
>>9894896
except for the girl in this image anyway.

buddy why would you claim to know anatomy and then damage control yourself into saying you are a medical student or whatever it's not even the same fukken thing

>>9895959
excuse me i'm >>9895822 and I sure as fuck wasn't defending you. I was defending the artist anon.

>>9895994
First picture was actually reffed from some porn.
I even hard reffed it...

>>9895777
Is that you, infamousrel?
You're not a bad artist. Your stuff's genuinely great. I've definitely used it plenty.
The only complaint is that it's not digital, but whatever.
Don't stop drawing, bro.

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>>9895994
>"wooden figurines"

Oh my god no.

Go to a gesture website and do gestures but do NOT GET THE FUCKING POSE DOLL/MANNEQUIN. That's what they're actually called by the way.

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>>9895959
i wasn't defending you jerkass

>>9895899
It's pretty hairy anon. I'm sure you get told this a lot, but you should work on doing longer, singular strokes. If you're struggling with that, don't be afraid to think about where you're going to place your next line. Speed and confidence comes with practise.

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Requesting critique on Lineless shit.
Just as a note: I only colored this one so anatomy critique is wasted

>>9896004

The first year of medicinal study at the university I go to teaches you general anatomy. Things like;

> The biceps brachii has two heads. The short head attaches to the coracoid process on the inferior side of the scapula, and the long head attaches to the superior side of the scapula. The biceps brachii attaches distally to the radial tuberosity.

I've chosen to specialize into neuroscience; so a lot of that knowledge is now useless to me.

What they don't teach us is how to draw this shit.

In my field, Anatomy is one part of being a Medical student. So I'm not running damage control at all.

>>9895959
>shoulder width
>spine
>height
>the ass
>the foreshortening of the arms
>saying you need to study anatomy more.

Sounds like critique to me hon.

>>9895994
what >>9896039 said
those poseable doll things are fucking terrible. It leads to stiff poses and doesn't teach you anything about how the body naturally contorts.

>>9895936
>I'm not the samefag, YOU are!
>I don't have to prove it, you'd just say I'm faking it!
kek, this makes the samefagging even more obvious

I don't have to discredit you, because you're making yourself look ridiculous and obsessive (what a surprise). all I want is for you to get the fuck out and go back to /ic/

>>9896004
"REEEE YOU DIDN'T SAY WHAT KIND OF ANATOMY STUDENT YOU WERE SO NOW I'M IRRATIONALLY ANGRY" is not critique, shithead, it's just obnoxious.

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Oh you lot can have this one too

>>9896039
Well I wouldn't know because I've never been to art school, and nor have I ever claimed to have gone to art school.

>>9896071
I'm currently just putting down linework. I'll clean it up when it looks better and then trace over that.

>>9896084
>i can look at wikipedia

>>9895939
>be drawfag
>not insane
>not prone to drama
how new r u?

>>9896081
Not much to say honestly. I mean, if you wanted to make that "flat iphone icons"-effect you succeeded.

>>9896105
>hasn't studied, practiced, or attempted at all to be an artist
>is giving advice
oh my god

>>9896119
I just want to draw underappreciated animal butts...

>>9896121
>flat iphone icons

>>9896031
I am still actually surprised that people might notice me.
Well thanks!

>>9896039
I boght a cheap one once. It was totally not posable.

I saw a gesture website linked here in the thread. I might prove useful since i never know what pose to draw next.

Thanks overall!

>>9896106
even then, your sketches shouldn't be so hairy. I'm not saying this to piss you off, I'm saying this to save you a lot of trouble, because I used to do the same shit when I first started off.
You won't build confidence or speed if you build a picture one tiny little line at a time. Just work on it, the quality and visual cleanliness of your drawings will greatly improve.

>>9896142
Meant this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_design
but was on the couch typing with on-screen-keyboard so I didn't bother getting the proper term...

>>9896112

I wasn't trying to prove myself anon; merely trying to give an example of what the word "Anatomy" means to me.

>>9896128
I'm glad you've finally gotten the message.

>>9896162
yeah that's pretty much what was intended

>>9896156
Not the guy you're critiquing, but petting lines while sketching is a problem I have. How do I break myself of this habit, just a lot of gesture drawing or something? I catch myself doing it even while I'm trying not to.

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>>9896162
stop trying.
>>9896156
the term is chicken scratches and if you're going to try and help them stop it you should first explain what happens:

when you draw you use three movements. your wrist, your elbow and your shoulder.

the wrist is what you use for writing and it's what people assume you're supposed to use for drawing but that's incorrect. the wrist has very little circular movement (it's more like 2/3rds of an oval) and is very twitchy. this means it's really only good at fine details.

the elbow has a better range (2/3rds still but not as twitchy or oval-ish) and is a bit more steady. this is what most people (should) use when cleaning up a sketch and doing linework.

the shoulder gives the greatest range of motion smoothness. it can be difficult however to use one's entire shoulder for a motion that's small so people tend to only use it for the initial rough sketch (gestures, working out poses quickly) or really straight lines or very nicely drawn circles.

so in that order a sketch in theory should go:

shoulder (roughly work out details lightly and smoothly)
elbow to put down some confident lines
wrist for details like facial features.

>>9896173
>you
i'm not the guy who made you cry"doctor"

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>>9895676
i love this post
a roast and calling someone out on their bullshit along with critque all in an exceptionally angry package.
almost like the good ol' days of 4chan until you see the people crying about how mean it was.

ya'll a bunch of babies.

>>9894874

Maybe on my tumblr. I have not posted that on my FA yet. I also do stuff for Endtown and drawthreads sometimes

>>9894885

No no, I understand it's a mindset I have that is poisonous. It's not by means a virtue, it's a shortcoming of mine cause I'm overtly critical of my own work. My friend keeps telling me that the details I want to rework are miniscule and no one will notice or that the pose looks fine and it's just my imagination that tells me it's off.

Lately I've been starting to work on taking this critical approach to my stuff a little less seriously, but not without enough self-awarness to actually get better.

A lot of perfectionism stems from low self-esteem I believe and it's a sort of a way to well put that experience that low self-esteem in a very strange manner.

>>9894603
>>9894694
Anything becomes a bun if you stuff meat into it.

>>9896219
Pencil artist from just earlier, here.

I never understood the importance my arm movements. Everything i do is done with the wrists. Some things might be done unintentionally with the elbow but i NEVER use my whole arm.

In fact, every drawing I made is done "twice".
I sketch it with some HARD (H3) pencils, because If i work with soft ones the lead gets everywhere. Then I erase everything lightly and redo the lines with a rather soft (B1) pencil do get darker lines.

Thruth is i might not even know hot to move OR EVEN HOLD my pencil.

What I am asking is how DO I move my arm for lines? does it mean I have to relearn drawing from scratch?

itt: artist is fingerblasted that his work got critique and proceeds to samefag when caught lying

>>9895939
yeah these threads used to be slow now there's shitposters
probably came from the drawthread

>>9896374
A good BTFO post is always appreciated, but that dude misunderstood docfaggot's reply, which diminishes the impact of his rant, in context. S'okay, but it's not archive-worthy.

inb4 this thread collapses into meta shitpost singularity.

>>9896513
no.

take a scrap sheet of paper and draw a line from one end to the other, length-wise and horizontal.

do it once with bending your wrist, then your elbow, then your shoulder.

now draw a bunch of circles of different sizes, first your wrist, then your elbow, then your shoulder.

it took me about 48 hours tops to get used to the idea of doing longer and more confident lines using your elbow/shoulder.

>>9896556
>types like liardoctor
>"diminishes impact of rant"
looooooooool

>>9895506
>tfw you will never be cared about enough to get roasted this hard
why try drawing.

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>>9896081
And another one for crit.
This time lined and with anatomy to tear apart

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>>9896156
I'm not mad, I know what you mean. I'm laying down a base sketch so I can see what I might want and work over it later.
>>9896219
Thanks for the tip.

>>9895608
Jesus Christ.

>>9896567
48 hours for you.
If i do i guess 3 hours a day, it will take me a month.
A month of just drawing circles.
No actual art.
Just circles.

It fucks with my brain that wants a FINISHED DRAWING every time I'm drawing something.


For some reason I also think that it is too late to learn or train stuff but that might just my negativity taking over.

>>9896666
>6666
sup satan
i'd like to also note that you need to (ontop of your chicken scratches) to stop symbol drawing. go draw some cats and people from life for a bit (quickposes + google image search) even if it's only like for half an hour a week

you'll see definite improvement.

>>9896710
man art takes a while.

art is probably one of the hardest things to do because it's so revealing. art is about taking what you don't know and showing it to the world with flashy lights and big neon arrows.

you are taking your mistakes and baring it all to the world to pick apart.

it takes real courage to do that and seeing as how you're already working on your art (quite successfully i might add) then i think you have the courage and determination to continue.

>>9896588
why are you so obsessed with this guy

>>9896746
the brain is a pattern recgonizing machine and anyone who says they know anything about art (like anatomy doctor) is simply putting limits on their growth.

the brain is a pattern making and organizing machine and we simply draw the patterns we can recognize. there are ways around this but it involves practice and hard work. you need to exercise your muscle memory and ignore what your brain believes is 'right'.

your brain is the true enemy when it comes to creativity. it likes being comfortable and not pushed outside of it's comfort zone. it is ready and willing to drop whatever it's doing if it just gets a little too abstract for itself.

style is simply the way you hide your mistakes.

>>9896815
>implying i'm roastposter
nigga i'm too lazy to type all that shit on a phone

>>9896719
I know that probably would help a bit, but that really doesn't sound fun and would probably lead me to wanting to kill myself. I only draw as a pass time/hobby that I do when ever I feel like.

>>9896746
>>9896837
I might not have understand everything but i see.

I originally posted my art here just to get it torn apart by critique.
Just to fuel my negativity.

I may also just be lazy.
Lazy and not willing to get out of my comfort zone.

>>9896900
You need to get some motivation. Like I did with wanting to draw sexy fox asses.

>>9896900
>dubs
if you've already accepted defeat then there's no reason for to convince you otherwise.
you've been given advice. whether or not you have the willpower and determination to follow it through is up to you.

just remember that the only person who can make you draw and improve is yourself because nobody else cares. i'm not being mean but that's actually how it works. artists will compare themselves to other artists and if they deem someone is 'worse' than them then they will want them to remain worse.

other artists don't want to see other artists get better. it hurts their ego. fans don't want artists to get better unless it means the artist will draw more stuff they want/like.

nobody cares about you as an artist. they only care about your work and your skill and whether or not it makes them feel better or worse.

so fuck those people.

who the fuck cares if you're awful, who the fuck cares if other people are better or worse than you. you want to draw for fun? then do it. you want to draw porn? then do it.

but don't come into this thread if you're not actively looking to put the time into improving because you're just wasting everyone's fucking time.

>>9896974
well you just gave advice to someone who doesn't want to improve

>>9896710
Is it okay if i post these lines and circles here?

I might not even know how good they are supposed to look.

>>9897189
Of course!

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>>9896974
>you've already accepted defeat
Okay, now you're starting to piss me off a bit.

This was a thread about sharing art, I shared art. All I've done was simple base work that doesn't need to be perfect. I could just erase the entire thing and start over again if I so felt like it. I don't give a shit if someones art is better than mine because I know that they've had far more experience than me over the span of far more time. I want to get better, and thanks for the advice but I'll do it on my own time however way I feel is best for me. I don't need anyone else telling me how I should draw shitty sketches. I would say more but I don't have the words right now.

In the mean time, here are some shitty sketches I did when I first got my tablet.

>>9897357
good job, you managed to continue drawing and posting.

you may actually become a better artist one day.

Nice to see 4chan comes together on /trash/. This thread is just as cancerous as /ic/.

>>9897378
artists, man.

it takes a certain amount of passion and brain damage to be able to show off work you know isn't up to snuff.

there's a reason why they're always seen as moody and angsty. but they wouldn't be artists if they weren't. there is a lot of self-conflict and ego involved in creating something and showing it off to others.

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>>9897357
This was actually one of the sketches I actually felt like I did pretty well on but was still one of the first sketch I did that went through many edits.

>>9897357
>>9897419

It's clear that he was just trying to bait you into not giving up.

Just don't fall into the "it's my style" shtick and actually practice art instead of just copying a single person's style like you're doing now.
In fact, find 5-10 artists who styles you like and copy those for a few weeks. The more the better. Don't try to force style either.

although you're a fag if you think you can learn how to draw without practicing from life.

>>9897398
If Plague of Gripes has taught me anything about art, it's that you need to have a shitty childhood or traumatic event happen to you if you want to be really good at it. Which is what I might be lacking when it comes to this.

>>9897473
nah, i know a girl who's an lead animator for a certain cartoon. grew up with her. we've worked together on projects and more or less have been friends all our lives.

she's the definition of privileged. got whatever she wanted and her parents supported her for a decade while she learned how to draw because she didn't want a job.

also draws tons of furry fat fetish stuff on her alt accounts online but so does half the studio so

>>9897457
I've been meaning to try and draw from different artist styles and see how they draw different things, one of them is Hirohiko Araki. I know drawing from life is good but I find it so monotonous and I see it helping more towards proportions rather than line work.

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>>9897286
I might be confident to draw lines but holy circles are the hell. Or i just missed the point.

>>9896148
>I am still actually surprised that people might notice me.
Your art's pretty distinguishable.

>>9897753
Too fast, too rough, too scratchy.

http://www.proko.com/how-to-hold-and-control-your-pencil/

This video will help you.

>>9897812
I see thank you.
I might rush things too much. but slow lines get unsure.
I will look into this link you provided.

Thank you very much!

>>9897788
It is? Odd.
I think of my art of "just pencil drawings".
Nothing special.

>>9897876
I think everyone thinks their art is just "drawings" but others pick the pieces to form what they call a "style".

>>9897753

Take various round objects like coins, pill bottles, and glasses, and use them to trace perfect circles onto paper in pen. Then, take a pencil and practice tracing them so you get an idea of what the movement actually feels like. Compare that to how your mind and your muscles are instinctively telling you to do it.

>>9897876
I really do suggest looking into the video, it helped me a lot.
>>9898077
Just make sure the object isn't too tall and you're not focused on wrist movement.

These threads were better when they were still called "Drawing Improvement" threads.

>>9896653
anything?

>>9898465
It would cause a little less confusion to. I thought we would just be sharing art.

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I think I'm giving up on that Mae sketch or I might just work on it at another time. I'm most likely going to go back to doing random sketches.

>>9898465
But i just want to post my art and get attention without being critiqued.

>>9899011
That's what tumblr, twitter, Instagram, Facebook, deviantart, artstation, wysp(sp?), snapchat, furaffinity, sofurry, inkbunny, weasyl and various other sites are for you faggot.

>>9897473

why would you take advice from a mediocre ""artist"" who people only care about because he hangs out with video game nerds and draws softcore of their precious games

>>9899294

>>9899294
plague always bugged me too, I dunno why people suck his ass so much over softcore porn

>>9899294
i dunno
he feels super relateable even though his art isnt really great
he just appeals

I came into this thread to laugh at shit art.

Instead I got to laugh at shit art and watch said shit artist get blown out of water and caught lying and then the inspirational posts started and now I want to draw.

I'm not even an artist.

>>9896974
this sounds like really good post
except for the "no artist wants you to improve part"
that sounds like a thing bitter shitters on ic do
the daily spitpainting artists on facebook were supportive when they spotted a beginner

>>9899583
You're an idiot if you think people care about you as a person.

Artists are one of the most vicious, lying, back-stabbing and dramatic groups on the planet who would love nothing more than to tear down those on top and spit on those below them just to make themselves feel a little better.

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>>9899583
>>9899625

the only people who disagree that artists do this are the beginners who are on denial and people who go on about how much of a "nice guy" they are. the same nice guys who wonder why they can't get a gf/bf.

"I'm a really good person, I don't think like that".

Then you're not an artist.

>>9899657
Secret to becoming an artist: Be a horrible person.

This explains why Hitler was so evil.

>>9899714
It's not that they're intentionally being horrible.
It's that to become an artist you also have to become a critic. But you also have to compare yourself to others.

This causes artists to envy those better than them, forcing them to look at art worse than their own to feel better. Those who do not do this get overwhelmed and give up.

>>9899752
Wow, I feels really bad that this kinda relates to me.

>>9899784
There are exceptions to the rule but it's really just the nature of the beast.

At some point you will need to stop and think "I'm better than them". Video games, playing music, writing, sports, whatever. There comes a point where you will need to say "I am better than <x> at <y>."

You don't need to actively say this out loud but as a person you need this to have the strength to continue. But that's not all.

You need to have the ability to know that just because you're better than someone else it doesn't mean the people worse than you are bad people. It doesn't mean their accomplishments mean nothing.

As long as you are putting the time and effort into something, however small of an amount that may be, it's still better than the people who refuse to try.

>>9899657
you`re retarded dude
stop projecting your bitterness onto other people

>>9899861
whatever helps you sleep at night man but i agree with the clown.

>>9899752
> forcing them to look at art worse than their own to feel better.
I don't look art shittier than mine to feel motivated.
I always keep on looking at better people, because that's what motivates me.
Looking at art that you just passed in skill, is like hitting the gym for months and then comparing your running performance to some fat guy.
Do you feel better when you beat him? Fuck no, so don't look at him. Look at the roided out meathead that you one day want to beat in his field.
Then again I have a background in sports, so comparing myself to people worse than me really brings me no joy.
After all, you can't learn from people worse than you and art is supposed to be a constant learning process, until you're ready to hit the actual industry and make the big bux.
Art is incredibly competitive for sure and a good thing that it is, but there's healthy competition and then there's the other stuff, which is essentially wallowing in negativity.
And that gets you nowhere.
Look into the future and reach those goals, draw the good feeling from that.
Not from beating your peers or people who are vastly worse than you. That doesn't improve you in any way.

>>9899950
>i'm such a good person

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>>9899657
>"if you`re not overly cycnical and vile you`re not an artist"
spoken like a true loser

>>9899987
>>9899950
then prove me wrong.

worst case is that you do art. oh no what a nightmare.

>>9899957

More like I don't focus on the negative stuff that gets you absolutely nowhere.
Does it improve you to go to /ic/ and angrily shitpost all day in those threads? Give it a good long thought and see what it has brought you.
You don't have to be some kind of a good samaritan to simply ignore the negative aspects that are simply sapping away at your energy and slowing your progress.

>>9900040
The level of denial you have would be hilarious if it weren't so sad.

People are focused on themselves and themselves only. Positive actions toward others are meant to benefit your emotional state and to earn favors and respect.

edgelord babby's first psychoanalyst aside but if you feel so threatened by a post on 4chan, in /trash/, the grease trap of the imageboard world then that may be saying something about how fragile your ego is.

>>9900029
>then prove me wrong.
the burden of proof is upon you
you made the first claim

>>9899752
I can be a critic and still not be a complete asshole and backstabbing fucker while doing so. To think you can't soak a single atom of happiness out of life because you want to keep improving sounds fucking insane.

This incredibly negative outlook on life sounds like a common trait the drawfags bred around 4chan seem to exhibit in melodramatic quantities.

>>9900111
how does it feel to have zero reading comprehension?

>>9900111

Haha, I'm not threatened, what gave you that idea?
Like anon above me said, reading comprehension is pretty important.
What I said was, don't draw motivation from looking at people who are beneath you, look at people who are better than you and draw the energy from reaching their level.
Then look further into the future after you reached that level.
I have been drawing for a bit over 4 years and I'm working on multiple +200$ commissions at the moment.
And in few short years I'm aiming to work in the industry, which I will achieve at this rate.
So I'm speaking from experience with this sort of mindset. It works.
Other alternative is what you see at /ic/ or with your way of thinking here.
It's just bringing you down and keeping you stagnant in whatever you do.
Compete with the ones who are better than you, not with the retard of the bunch to prop up your self esteem.

>>9887622

>OP just says share your art
>people do
>autistic retards throw a shitfit that not all art is renaissance tier

it's like I'm on /ic/, all we need is a bot that just quotes everyone and auto replies LOOMIS regardless

>expected to see drawings
>get a massive shitstorm of massive tldr argument shit instead

you'll niggas need jesus

>>9900459
>autistic retards throw a shitfit that not all art is renaissance tier
dont disregard there was actual critique given out

>>9900493
still waiting for that part

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>>9900128
>he didnt reply back
thought so

>230 posts
>51 IPs

hmm......

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>>9888724
This is actually a good idea, I normally have a tough time figuring out what to draw. I tried this this morning, and actually drew shit.
Thanks anon.

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>>9898899
Fucking hell, that hat is a bastard to draw.

>>9898465
This thread is a mess.
I expected more art and advice. Instead, It is filled with shitposting.

>>9899067
And here too.

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>>9896900
dude
dont worry, you`ll see if you`ll like it or not once you started
don`t you want to get better?
and after a while you might even enjoy it
give it a try, dont give up before you even started

you can do better anon

>>9899752
>It's that to become an artist you also have to become a critic.
Dude, there's this new thing called CONSTRUCTIVE criticism! Unlike the vile shit you usually see on 4chan, constructive criticism points out issues AND positive aspects without the use of sarcasm, cynicism and insults.

>But you also have to compare yourself to others. This causes artists to envy those better than them
Yeah, no. You might as well take the very wise advice of most big artists and illustrators and take other's successfulness in art as a goal to accomplish yourself. 'Cause they worked for it and so should you, if wanna reach that level of proficiency.

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>>9897657
>I know drawing from life is good but I find it so monotonous and I see it helping more towards proportions rather than line work.
You get better at line work the more you draw. The thing with real life drawing is that you'll need techniques to draw things accurately from different angles. That's why many artists tell beginners to draw simple shapes, because they make it easier to adjust size and perspective of the thing you want to draw, as well as working your way up to the object by adding more and more details.

>>9902143

>#3 looks different from every angle

fuck I'll never get this right

>>9902380
draw more

>>9902380
Look at yourself in the mirror as you turn your head. Get someone to model for you, or just find videos of people moving their heads and run them in super slow motion. Start drawing from as many different angles as you can. You'll see how the different views from different angles blend together, and understand the whole that much better for it.

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>>9901754
I like drawing and I do improve a bit the more I draw. But I don't plan on drawing as a professional thing I would do for money. Drawing is just a thing I do to pass the time.

>>9903541
I don't plan to draw as a professional, but it's nice to improve and draw even better pictures.

Geez, this thread exploded in post count while I was gone. Any other artists here got some advice for >>9888012?

>>9888012
Draw bigger. You can't do details well when you draw so small.

>>9905968
I find it hard to draw characters right when they take up the entire page. It's harder to judge things when you have less room to work with.

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>>9892597
>>9892601

I forgot how how much I enjoy having a sketchbook.

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A green pea with 2 additional peas.

>>9908526
2threepea4me

>>9894437
>>>/ic/

>>9899583
>spitpainting
I expected people actually painting with their own spit. Quite disappointed.

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I'm doing this currently

>>9888611
PKbunny?

Currently I'm working on a commission for glacierclear of their shark character.

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>>9911252
Forgot pic

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>>9900111
>edgelord babby's first psychoanalyst aside but if you feel so threatened by a post on 4chan, in /trash/, the grease trap of the imageboard world then that may be saying something about how fragile your ego is.
>fragile ego
>compares himself to people worse then him to feel less shit
>envies better artists and becomes bitter

>having no self awareness whatsoever

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Since Crash Bandyboy remaster will be out soon.

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Currently working on this, but I keep fucking up the face. Thus the image crop

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>>9911241
yup!
>>9888611

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>>9911585
Whoa. I didn't know you posted here.
I hope things are going well for you (and kaips :3c )

>>9896653
>loli
nope

>>9911609
CC! i do drawfag here and there
Is going great with the both of us thank you!
Hope everything is going great with you aswell

>>9911657
Ah that's awesome to know!
I'm glad to hear things are going well for you both!
We'll have to have a catch up soon (I think I still have you on Discord)!

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>>9896666

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>>9892348
That's some mighty fine work, anon. Make sure to post a link to your gallery when you make one.

>>9892348
E6

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Wanted to draw some Lunala after ultra sun and moon announcements. And since that new Lunala form is so similar to the base form, I made that as well.

I've never done something in a moonlit setting so its a new challenge for me.

Any other P&P artists feel like their art loses a lot of character when you rub out the pencil lines after you go over the sketch in pen?

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>drawing improvement threads weren't able to survive without pity bumps
>this thread is bustling (shitposting aside)

>>9913227
Is this a bad thing?

>>9913227
To be honest I only made the thread just for advice with a request I was doing.

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>>9913227

They only fail if you let them. This thread can also serve as both

>>9912660
Here's a completed sketch from me as well.

>>9913260
Nice sketch. Do you have a gallery?

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>>9887622
It's at times like these I kind of wish I'd bothered to learn shading. Or understood anything about colors.

>>9887622

This threads always happen when I am at work on my phone... and when I get home to scan something it will be over 400 replies on the last page, never fails...

>>9913295
Cute.

>>9913277

FA:trcfan
Tumblr:tee-arr-see-fan (still a mess though)

>>9913477
Ah nice. I'm not a fan of inflation, or hyper-like stuff, but I like the non fetish art!

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>>9913679

Thanks! I try to keep the fetish to non fetish works about 50/50 in my nsfw galleries. Which somehow pisses off people who are fans of one but not the other. Can't please everyone.

Most of my hyper drawings come from me drawing an average figure, then just adding larger curves later since its not too much work after that.

(also, to sate my autism, I don't really do inflation. I do hyper curves/belly and maybe expansion. There's a difference)

>>9899752
>It's that to become an artist you also have to become a critic.
If they were truly critical thinkers they would have picked a real career. Anybody can be a whiny bitch and internet artists tend to think that it's legitimate criticism.

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Trying hard to increase the speed of my work, since I spend WAY too much time on a single drawing that doesn't even get finished in the end, so I tried shitting out a sketch in 10 minutes.
Also trying to not stress so much over erasing things and worrying that I messed something up.

It's pretty fucking messy though, but I'll work on that.

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I just sketched this over the free space on my essay because I'm retarded.

>>9888012
I just realised I never drew Wendy's shell

>>9914139
That's a good idea. I did that too at one point. Drew images with a 5 minute timelimit. It's good for speeding up your art and the early phases.

>>9913943
he means a critic of your own work

nice reading comprehension anon

>>9911259
She's pretty cute.

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>>9911259
I finished the commission I was working on.

>>9915881
Cute shark girl.

>>9916008
Thank you very much, but I can't take the credit for her design!

>>9915881
I swear those tiny dots in the middle of her eyes made me think her pupils are crazy small. Why are her pupils colorless? They looked so cute in black and white?

>>9916087
On the sketch, I put the eyes in as a placeholder so the customer had an idea of what it may look like. I personally prefer large cartoony eyes, but I don't have a problem with going with what the customer desires. I asked what style of eyes they wanted and they picked the original design for them.

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After like a month, I finally picked up flipnote and finished this animation.

>>9916118
Oh well if the customer is kind of loony then who am I to judge. Nice work anyway.

>>9916392
Ha, I wouldn't say that.
But it's ok to have different opinions!
And thank you!!

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construction, CONSTRUCTION. i must draw!

>>9916528
Construction is good, but be careful of your art becoming too stiff

>>9916201
Nice work I'm still working on my bear animation I posted in one of the previous drawing improvement

>>9916538
I never understood how not make your drawing stiff every time I try to avoid it. It looks like crap

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>>9916538

that's wht gesture is for. but first need to learn to walk before running.

>>9916583
Same, but depending on the style, you can get away with it as motion.

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>>9887622
here's a wip for an art challenge I was given.

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>>9911585
Finish !

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Made an OC

>>9917105
Amazing work PK!

>>9916550
Thanks, and I bet the finish product of your animation will be awesome