/tfg/ - Transformers General

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>dinobots
>abominus
>predaking
>fembots
>duocons
>first proper rodimus prime toy since fucking titanium
>combiner wars but with translucent plastic and combiner pegs are more well hidden
>gimmick is actually ignorable this time and doesn't result in ugly heads

THANK FUCK titans return is finally ending.

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>>6470597
so you put the prime master in to the robot, and then?

Any news on what happened to our guy Raffy? Swear he had a linkedin page before

>>6470610
Then you buy your tickets to Hascon, anon. More will be revealed there.

>>6470610
Electronics and mechanical gimmicks are too expensive, jsut pretend it's powering them up.

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>>6470610

>>6470621
John Warden assassinated him for ruining his "stay tuned" meme.

>>6470597
I needed a 4th Decepticon combiner for my combiner shelf and Abominus is right up my alley because of how cool G1 Hungarr is.

>>6470587
you did good op

Watch Hun-Grr be less articulated than his G1 toy.

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>>6470657
OP here, thanks so much anon. Enjoy the bread while you still can

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I keep forgetting this guy's coming, and I get hyped whenever I remember
I just wished they would at least show colored pics

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Added a gun to Hound.

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Anybody picking up any of these overpriced Flame Toys figures?

Does this even go in this thread or the 3P one?

>>6470710
If it's a licensed figure then it goes here, even though technically it's still a third party figure

>>6470710
I would like to get both of those guys but with how much they are I think I'm only going to go for the Tarn. Just wish his proportions weren't so fucked and gorilla-like. It's odd because Drift was pretty accurate but then they took alot of artistic liberty with Tarn.

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>>6470710
OP here, as long as it involve Transformers yes, 3ps can be allowed as you feel like. There's also a 3p bread I mentioned earlier if you want to go there. Hope that answers your question.

>>6470597
Finally we get an official Dinobots combiner. I wonder what the combined mode looks like.

>>6470597
THERE WILL BE DINOBOTS AS TITANS RETURN??
Im a newfag.
holyshit. im so happy now.
Dino
Fucking
Bots

>>6470737
It's POTP btw, welcome to /tfg/ anon. They got Clobber and nothing else in TR

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>>6470737
Welcome, please put your wallet in the fire with everyone else's. This line is going to be a hell of a money sink.
>Leader Rodimus Prime with Deluxe Hot Rod
>More Combiners
>Obscure Fembots
>Legends Duocons
>Optimus Primal
>GOD DAMN PREDAKING

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>>6470742
>>6470748
>tfw my wallet's boypuccy is ready
niiicee

>>6470737
Get ready for disappointment. They're shit-tier deluxes.

>>6470587
>Not the superior cat ear version

BRAVO NOLAN

>>6470587
What's everybody's opinion on Movie the Best Megatron? My finger's hovering over the Buy it Now button, but I dunno if I should take the plunge.

Its altmode is so shitty-looking, but its robot mode is so fucking awesome.

>>6470781
Its more accurate movie wise than the rotf leader which only has its size going for it.

Just remember, its voyager sized, if you can find fault in those things then save that cash

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I won't kill anyone if someone here can provide me with a website that's still taking pre-orders for the Japanese takara version of mpm04

>>6470597
why are there 2 grimlocks?

>>6470794
Unknown, the bot modes sorta look like mirrors of themselves, dunno why the dino mode differs in pose

Is there any word on whether these Pretender suits in PotP have any articulation? I'm loving the idea of an actual Pretender Bludgeon, but if they're as blocky as they look, I might just wait for the inevitable movie Drift repaint.

>>6470827
Looks just like their arms

>>6470789
Are you the guy that has been asking for like 3 or 4 threads?

>>6470829
That's what I thought. Pretty lame.

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>>6470831
I asked once before and no one responded, who those other times are sure aren't myself.

Guess I'll be taking someone's face off tonight

>>6470835
>filename
More like, death to all Sentinel beings, amirite

>>6470848
Optimus "if its decepticon it gonna drown" Prime
Optimus "Cybertron not Cybercon" Prime
Optimus "Nitro Zeus will get a noose" Prime
Optimus "ion gun Makes killing cons more fun" Prime

>>6470610
You use your imagination. Or would you prefer to have a spring loaded gimmick that hinders articulation?

>>6470827
They're $5. Are you expecting anything but the arms moving?

Is Skullcrusher really that bad? I love his Gator mode

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>>6470870
The the little gator legs dangling off, no heel spurs and (mostly on hasbro molds) his hips can be loose, oh and the cockpit hatch on his back is made of rubber (so are the teeth) if that ails you

Otherwise he's fine, I have the takara one and I painted up another for the purpose of gator aligator-tron and a krok, I have no issues despite imperfections (though the paint on my custom fixed the hips and then polish on my krok, the takara was perfect).

>>6470873
If you take the screws out of his legs you can slide the gator legs off and then back on with them inside his bot legs. They hold on fine with just friction both ways.

>>6470835
OK because that guy always got the same answer, which was anime-export, and if he didn't preorder before AE closed their pos, it would be entirely his fault.

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>>6470879
I see, well Ihave mine, hope he has his too.

Admittedly wasn't willing to use those guys due to their rep but an answer is an answer

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So, what's the best Bayformer leader class Megatron? I want to have one to scale up with next to my ROTF Prime but I'm honestly undecided since none of them appear to be perfect. The 2007 one has an interesting aesthetic and color palette but the bland grey plastic really rubs me the wrong way, the ROTF one has a great paintjob but the proportions are completely fucked and the Last Knight one has an interest design but everyone seems to be talking shit about it lately.

Which of these three would you recommend me, /tfg/?

>>6470597
>gimmick is actually ignorable
>except now the entire toy looks like shit instead of just the head
I feel like it really is just one or two very vocal anons who hated Titans Return. Especially since a few threads ago when people were listing their top 3 favorite toylines, TR made it in to a majority of them.

>>6470901
2007 is shorter than rotf prime so that won't work, Rotf is taller and I imagine that TLK is also too short.

>>6470901

I'd say either Premium Series movie 1 (better color plastics, more detail, not pink and blue), or ROTF are decent options if you really want a Megatron from the earlier movies.

>>6470621
He's innocent, got framed.

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>>6470597
>Deluxe Rippersnapper and Grimlock

I need these. How rare are they gonna be?

>>6470901
TLK

>>6470901
RotF.
Tank mode beats alien jets.

>>6470918
They're in two waves, they won't be.

>TLK Toyline released April 24th
>It's August and still haven't seen Wave 2 locally.
It's not like I'm in a small area. I have a TRU, 2 targets, 3 walmarts withing 10 minutes.

>>6470857
Saved

>>6470930
is there anything you really really want from wave 2 and 3 though?

>>6470631
To be honest. I can't stand electronics. The toy gets compromised because the budget has to go to some shitty sound effect that goes off every time you look at the thing. That is, until the batteries leak acid all over the inside.

>>6470935
Drift maybe. That red dinobot.

>>6470930
>>6470935

Either way though, it's pretty nuts. Look at how far the movie toylines have fallen in the past couple installments. Remember distribution for the ROTF toyline? There were problems with shelfwarmers obviously, but there was also a ton of product, and consistently something new on the shelves every couple weeks. Even if the midwest. That means that not only was there retailer enthusiasm, but product was also moving.

>>6470935
I want Nitro Zeus, Scorn and Cogman. Nitro and Scorn should show up eventually, the voyagers seem to sell well enough and they're in the same wave. However I don't see Cogman hitting regular retail, even if wave 2 deluxes hit shelves and sell the line will die at the lackluster wave 3 and for some reason Cogman is part of Wave 4(by himself?, there's no info on his wave at all). Guess I'll have to get the Takara release of that one, if it happens anyway.

>>6470901
They're all pretty bad. I'd wait for an eventual MPM or go 3rd party if I were you.

>>6470954
>Cogman
I kind of wanted him, but now that the movie is forgotten and the first production pictures showed him cast entirely in that same, shitty gray plastic Hasbro always uses, I think I could pass.

I think the biggest reason I wanted him was for his cool little sword, and that looked like it was cast in bendy rubber.

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>>6470827
>>6470834
Don't forget that they also turn into weapons.
It's basically targetmasters that can be piloted by headmasters, you can't expect articulation from that.

>>6470973
>you can't expect articulation from that.
sure i can, not from hasbro of course.

>>6470982
Well, good luck finding that anywhere for 5 bucks.

>>6470973
They seem like a step down from TM Vehicles, honestly.

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What other masterpieces can they make with what they have now?

>megaplex/megatron 2.0 in plain grey plastic unpaintedand blue leg panels
>megatron 2.0 in chrome silver and red leg panels+chrome plated gun and sword accessories
>megatron 2.0 in gloss black and wodden colored gun handle
>road hauler/green grapple
>"shackwave" shockwave
>dark hot rodimus
>diaclone red sunstreaker
>diaclone police car sunstreaker
>deep cover/blackish blue sideswipe

What else could they do, surely something with cheetor?

>>6470948
Age of Extinction toys sold worse than Beast Hunters, and the new head of Transformers knows people care more about nostalgia-based figures than the kiddie or movie lines, so TLK basically got the shaft with bare minimum of figures and raised prices to go towards those lines in the future.

>>6471008
They are.

>>6471011
>surely something with cheetor?
Didn't Cheetor and Tigatron share a mold? There's that, I guess. Also black diaclone Ironhide.

I definitely want that police car Sunstreaker, especially if they give him a better head than the cartoon one has.

>>6471011
>megaplex/megatron 2.0 in plain grey plastic unpaintedand blue leg panels
Bleh. They should so a Marvel Megatron before that.

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>>6471011
I have no desire to pick up mp megatron. but if they were to release a black and brown version I'd definitely buy it

How big is the size difference between modern hasbro Voyagers and Deluxe class TFs?

>>6471036
So you mean black bucket head?

Not really much to him unless they want to make him into that black metal chromed megatron so he's doing a double homage like mp38 did, least with the unpainted grey plastic he'll make for a safer play piece

>>6471040
Depending on the figures, take a deluxe and add about half that figure's height/bulk, that's roughly voyager sized.

>>6471043
Ok, thanks

I'm pretty new to Modern transformers so I wanted to know how big the new Grimlock will be compared to the TR stuff

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>>6471036
>Marvel Megatron
Yes please. I want more Marvel in general.

>>6471031
>Didn't Cheetor and Tigatron share a mold?
They did, but MP Cheetor isn't thicc enough for it to work now. They could do a Blizzard Strike repaint I suppose.

>>6471041
>unpainted grey plastic
I know this is what people want to avoid scratching, but I'm not paying $200 for ugly, unpainted gray plastic. I'll either go with the 3P versions that aren't clusterfucks or skip it all together.

>>6471044
The sizes vary greatly depending on the figure, for instance Springer stands regular height for a deluxe but his car altmode is damn near deluxe sized. If the new Grimlock is roughly the size of FoC Grimlock, that'd be just right to me, as long as it's not hollow in the back.

>>6471046
They could retool cheetor enough to somehow make it work..its an idea unless there is a white tiger cheetor variant

>>6471048
They could kick off some accessories and bring it down to $150?

Knowing our luck it'll be a ttmall exclusive

>>6471050
>for instance Springer stands regular height for a deluxe
*Voyager

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>takara mpm03 is sold out at hlj finally
>missed out on takara mpm04 as he most likely won't hold stock on the 16th next month
>target master hotrod is mp40 and good chance he'll sit there for some time
>nothing yet for mp beast wars dinobot other than the prototype
>STILL nothing for mp beast wars megatron

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>>6471041
I feel like Marvel Megatron is supposed to be silver. Actually, I feel like all Megatrons are supposed to be silver. The MP only ended up gray because the animators don't typically draw the metallic shine detail that Megatron should have.

Seriously, I see tons of people supporting unpainted releases like TR Megatron saying "MEGATRON HAS ALWAYS BEEN GRAY", but... has he? I think the first time I saw him deliberately made gray was MP-36, and it baffled me. Megatron is always shown to be chrome/metallic silver, like 90% of the time.

>>6471052
>They could kick off some accessories and bring it down to $150?
I doubt it. Takara would likely kick off the accessories and keep the price the same, really. Although we could stand to lose some accessories. I hate that the MP figures are getting loaded down with all these extra plastic bits just to replicate one specific moment from a single episode of the cartoon or whatever.

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>>6471059
I mean, even the tiny Megatron that comes with Soundwave and MP-01 was silver. Why the fuck did they paint MP-36 gray?

>>6471062
So they can repaint him and sell him again as silver.

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Looks like Takara's Trypticon actually will be a bit darker, but is cartoon accuracy enough for people to get it over the Hasbro one?

Also, I think it's safe to assume that the legs will have the same issue.

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My new tomica not-Transformers are here!

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Batons and knuckledusters for everyone!

>>6471059
I always read Megatron as being white in the comics. There's the implication of being silver with the sheen detailing, but if you just look at it, he's white in those panels.

You have to be careful what you ask for. Your interpretation may not be what others see, especially those involved in making the toy.

>>6471059
I believe what takara aimed for with mp36 was a "best of both worlds" approach, hence the sparkles in his grey, its not a straight up flat grey, but it does generally match up with his cartoon appearance, lets face it when they say cartoon accuracy its not "ok his body shines in most places" they try to take the damn palette used on the show, with the sparkles just to make it more...interesting.

Only in comics do they really go crazy with the chrome effect which adds a unique feel, if they do a marvel megatron I hope to god they do something crazy like...slight cell shaded effects, if he ain't metallic then make him stand out for fucks sake.

As for the accessories its just a sign of affection to our childhood, they're really just an excuse for the price, not the actual cause

>>6471062
Back then the aesthetic was at a crossroads, mp10 up until mp magnus the designs had a merger of toy and cartoon aesthetics (surface detail, deco choices and faces), mp inferno and so forth just solidified that takara has gone down to slavish g1 accuracy with an INCREASED level of articulation.

I'm conflicted, I liked the mp datsuns, lambos and mp10's as they generally looked good from all angles and their heads would say "hay I'm a cool robot you might recognize" not "HAY I'M COSPLAYING AS THEY CARTOON YOU GREW UP WITH LOOK AT HOW HIGH MY LEGS REACH"

>>6471068
Look on the tf_pr twitter, your image is dark because of the effects, the last images of trypticon are virtually the same, even the stickers

>>6471072
>white megatron with a black helmet
I'd be fine if its a gloss white but a matte would better suit

>>6471072
>Your interpretation may not be what others see, especially those involved in making the toy.
Apparently, since those involved with making the toy seem to always pick the blandest possible interpretation.

>>6471074
>"best of both worlds"
There's nothing "best" about gray. It makes the leader of the Decepticons look like a total genericon. I don't think anyone has ever looked at a silver Megatron toy and said "I wish he was more bland gray like the animation cels!". I mean, now they do, because people always want this kind of shit retroactively, just like in general nobody really wanted the hyper-cartoon-accuracy of the MP molds we're getting now (really, nobody had an issue with the style of MP-10 through 25), but now that they've had a taste, they claim it's all they ever wanted.

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So tell me, nitro's biggest flaws is his inaccurate jet mode, head gimmick, and typical jet undercarriage transformation?

What has he got going for him?

>>6471062
Because Megatron is gray.

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>>6471105
*gay

>>6471101
He's a nagger.

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>>6471101
Unique realistic-ish altmode, working cockpit in the cockpit unlique Otone/Prime, Titanmaster compatible, titanmaster gimmick completely optional, unique botmode with no triplechanger compromises, unique wing transformation.

>>6471068
I'm pretty sure we haven't seen Takaras Tryp yet, the seem to be using Hasbros Tryp for all their promos so far, either that or both will be identical minus a purple circle on the cannons.

>>6471107
Is that an upcoming IDW Megatron redeco?

>>6471110
>unique botmode with no triplechanger compromises
Why is this a point for a regular transformer, shouldn't even be a point

As for takara's trypticon he's due this month, would they really pull a fast one at the last moment?

Come to think of it, we haven't seen his box or additional promo stuff recently

>>6471117
>Why is this a point
It is the current voyager offerings, CW, TR and even POTP voyagers have compromises for their second altmode/torso mode.

About Trypticon, i really don't see a reason to get Takaras version unless they add Brunt and a bunch of seatguns/antennas for city mode.

>>6470597
>THANK FUCK titans return is finally ending.

Why it's not like these figures aren't going to be the same style and quality.

Also there are literally still Combiner Wars figures in there.

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>>6470621

His soul was consumed to feed the board for his failure. None must know of the coming tide of robots, NONE I SAY!

S T A Y T U N E D

>>6471133
>It is the current voyager offerings, CW, TR and even POTP voyagers have compromises for their second altmode/torso mode
That's a fault with the line, but their intentions with each mold was for triple changes, a fair comparison should only be with other duo changers

>About Trypticon, i really don't see a reason to get Takaras version unless they add Brunt and a bunch of seatguns/antennas for city mode.
Again, too late for a fast one, the product listing hasn't mentioned anything other than what the hasbro one got, even the catapult was quickly worked out to be the mount for full tilt

>>6471052
>They could kick off some accessories and bring it down to $150?
That's not how it works. Accessories are usually so simple engineering/partscount wise they almost add no cost at all. Adding such accessories is just a way to help the buyer justifying the asked price to himself.

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Takara Tryp will come with special non self breaking power.

>>6470903
People like TR for le wacky torso spinning transformations that make the toy look more complex than it actually is. No one cares about it for the head ruining partsforming gimmick except for those fags who eat up whatever gimmick Hasbro throws out regardless.

>>6470877

Pics?

>>6470903
>I feel like it really is just one or two very vocal anons who hated Titans Return

It's one faggot troll, Anon. Don't give them credit. The post style is exactly the same every fucking time they sperg out trying to bait people.

>>6471156
>come with special non self breaking power.
So.. smarter buyers? the toy doesn't brake itself, it has to be hamhandled to do so.

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>>6471056

Here, have an updated one.

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>>6471157
So the g1 headmasters are "ruined" as well?

No wonder has-tak are collectively pissing people off, we got people who want new shit but don't know what they want and people who refuse to move on from MUH G1 but get pissy when they do new things/remix stuff for existing characters because they can't move on from the 80's, would you be happy if they remained inaccurate bricks and just ran g1 re-runs every year with fancy cgi in-betweens?

I can imagine warden right now asking people like us, WHAT DO YOU FUCKING WANT, WHAT THE LIVING FUCK DO YOU WANT FROM US.

I was like you once anon, hating this "change" to my beloved characters, but then I remembered, these are kids toys, made to be fun, fun to who, certainly not basement dwellers, characters who became their intended headmasters came out find and everyone else wasn't terribly hurt, the play pattern is meant to give more interactivity with the figures.

CW had more reasons to get angry about and that was because of mold diversity and guess what, the deluxes ONCE AGAIN are stuck with combiner pegs thus limiting their potential, but they (for now) learnt their lessasons and TRIED to get things better.

So anon, either go buy some mp's or 3p's, or piss off, don't give overlord warden money, it'll just encourage him and his quest to ruin MUH G1.

So so long sucker and enjoy your kids toys

>>6471072
>I always read Megatron as being white in the comics. There's the implication of being silver with the sheen detailing, but if you just look at it, he's white in those panels.

Color printing was more limited then. He's done in the exact same style as Silver Surfer from that era for example, who is obviously silver. He is meant to basically be shiny metal of some sort.

>>6471169
Retards like you say about every issue.

>Wah! it's the buyers fault they didn't take the figures legs apart and compress the spring since it wasn't done enough at the factory! they're just hamhanding it!!

Fuck off.

>>6471157
>People like TR for le wacky torso spinning transformations that make the toy look more complex than it actually is
This is madness. Are people actually decrying the improved transformation engineering on TR? Is it because you white-knighted for Hasbro so hard during Combiner Wars that now you feel like you can't admit that maybe it was shit and Hasbro IS capable of something better? We're going to pretend that Triggerhappy isn't one of the best molds we've gotten in years, and instead write it off as needlessly flashy, just because it validates your shortsighted shit-eating?

Well, damn.

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>tfw finally got the buckos to order a TR Fortress Maximus
What am I in for, /tfg/? I know he doesn't have as many accessories as Metroplex but I'm totally in love with his overall robot aesthetics. Also, are the Reprolabels worth it and what's his best upgrade kit?

>>6471178
"Oh wow this articulation is hard as fuck, should I force it or check online if there are issues reported? Nah lets crank it!"

>>6471180

It's a fuckin' troll man, just ignore the faggot. Literally the same post in every thread baiting.

>>6471175
I think one of the funniest things about people who are triggered by TR being "partsforming" is that they almost always say that CW was better. But going by that same, broken logic, aren't combiners just the ultimate partsformers?

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>>6471184
>should I expect this toy that's being sold by a multinational manufacturer to actually have some quality control?
ftfy, it's genuinely repulsive to think that someone can be an apologist for poor manufacturing.

>>6471184
It's hasbros fault it's got that, they hamhandled the production.

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>>6471186
>loved CW
>loved TR
>probably will love PotP

While I may be chock full of mental problems and a wreck, at least I'm not autistic like the fag here who hates TR for "partsforming" but has enough mental gymnastics to not consider combiners "partsforming", thankfully.

>>6471180
Making the transformation needlessly do fancy tricks isn't the same as improving the engineering. CW toys were exactly as simple as they needed to be for what the characters were and they didn't need to use partsforming as a crutch.

>We're going to pretend that Triggerhappy isn't one of the best molds we've gotten in years
He's fine but he's also overrated as fuck. He would be better it didn't have to partsform just to transform.

>>6471186
>>6471197
Combiners need to partsform by the definition of what combining even means. They're multiple robots that come together to form a larger robot. Combining without partsforming is impossible. Making a toy robot that doesn't partsform is possible.

Now I know you're going to say
>b-but they're headmasters! headmasters need to partsform!
1. 80% of the characters in this line have no business being headmasters to begin with. So they're still just using headmasters as a partsforming cheat.
2. There are some headmasters where partsforming isn't necessary such as Sixshot. However most of the line doesn't do this.
3. Unlike combiners there's no way of completely ignoring the partsforming aspect.

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>>6471205
>those mental gymnastics

Next you'll be telling us it's not gay if it's a feminine penis.

>>6471193
>>6471195
>WHAAA YOU MAKE BREAK MAH TOY, DAMN YOU HASBRO!

I'm not an apologist, its anoying having to fix something out of the box, BUT, if I notice something isn't working smothly I won't force it, I not fucking 10 yrs old.

>>6471182
Why are you buying him instead of Trypticon?

>>6471215
>It's fine if products come broken right out of the box despite the fact it costs 100+ as I can just repair it myself, rather than the manufacturer just do their job right
I don't even regular this thread. I was just on my way to the gunpla thread, but couldn't help notice how much of a shill you're being.

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>>6470710
Fuck that looks bad. Why are the proportions so fucked? It's like Tarn is wearing someone else's legs.
Kultur may not have been perfect but it was still a damn sight better that this thing.

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>>6471182
A bit of disappointment, he barely transforms and lacks most of the original arsenal, the repros aren't worth it, te most useful stickers are the windows for the legs and main gate hatch, as for upgrades, he needs the DNA set,

>>6471221
It shows you're not a regular and don't know what we are talking about because it doesn't come broken, you have to force it to break.

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>>6471205

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>>6471232
People who think HMs are actually a good gimmick are the ones in denial.

>>6471241
>It was poorly implemented this one time, so it's always terrible and awful!

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>>6471242
>one time

>>6471245
>better done face sculpt

You're not helping your case you delusional 'tard.

>>6471249
The face sculpt is only MARGINALLY better (if that) in exchange for huge amounts of shit behind his head that completely ruins the silhouette. Not worth it.

>>6471252
>muh silhouette
The old head is stupid-looking, nostalgiafag.

>>6471245
Titans return scourge head/face is fucking glorious. what are you talking about

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Do targets in Upstate NY have TR stuff?

Do they even carry Transformers?

>>6471101

Neato Robot.

>>6471245
They're both pretty ugly but the left one at least Looks like a head despite the smudginess

I wish TF fans had higher standards when it came to the actual designs of the robots

>>6471271
how far upstate are we talkin, i know the syracuse and potsdam areas do

>>6471271

US Stores no longer carry new TFs. They are just going to clearance out their existing stock and remove the section in favor of more room for Fidget Spinners.

>>6471289
I was mostly wondering about Rhinebeck, but that is a good sign

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>the G1 toy sticker detail on TR Misfire's legs are upside down because Hasbro looked at a picture of them on upside down

>>6470903
I don't know why I have to keep reaffirming that TR's problem wasn't the gimmick, the problem was doing yet more versions of characters who aren't headmasters and will definitely get replacements like the movie cast. It just results in waves and waves of figures (for example the CW autobot cars) whose only fate is to languish on ebay for the rest of time at a lower price than they originally retailed for.

What was your first transformers toy, /tfg/?

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>>6471337
First ones I can remember are the lizard and spider lady from Beast Wars

RIP all my old transformers

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Grotusque should have gotten a Fangry remold so that Doublecross could wild both his teammates.

I may pick up an extra Fangry and do it myself.

>>6471241
They ALWAYS find a way to make a Galvatron figure a piece of shit

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>>6471337

Pic related.

>>6471275
>>6471266
>They're both pretty ugly but the left one at least Looks like a head despite the smudginess

It doesn't look like a head. It looks like a fucking cube with a tiny face on it.

I wish TF fans had higher standards when it came to designs of the head which is the single most important part of making any toy look good

>>6471264
>muh REEDUN
ah, so that's why TR fags are retarded.

>>6471334
Meh, my issue with Misfire is his face, the toy version looks way better than the generic mcsquare of the cartoon.

>>6471337
G1 Bumblebee and then Gears a week later. I was reading the comics, so I had to have Gears next after issue #3.

>>6471335
>I don't know why I have to keep reaffirming that TR's problem wasn't the gimmick
Because pretty much everyone just complains about the gimmick
>the problem was doing yet more versions of characters who aren't headmasters
I didn't really have a problem with this. I think headmastering is an awesome gimmick and makes the alt. modes more fun to play with. I mean, sure it's more fun on the characters that are actually SUPPOSED to be Headmasters, but the ones that aren't like Triggerhappy and Kup are pretty fun. Plus based Takara is making them Targetmasters as well, and a transformable toy robot that has both a gun and a head that turn into little dudes makes me giddy.

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>>6471337
>>6471346
That was a rumored figure a while back.

>>6471337
Beast Wars Iguanus

>>6471231
You're defending terrible QC, awful.

>>6471329
Toei did the original show on the cheap (even for them) and deadlines forced them to farm out scenes and even whole episodes to lesser companies. The fast pace meant that we got a lot of unfinished animation. That's what Rhino released on DVD years ago and that's what so many people see online and on bit torrent. It wasn't the finished animation tho. Rhino never released the finished work because they were too lazy to track it down.

AFAIK, the newer DVDs from Shout use the finished animation whenever they had it.

Takara released the show months later and had even more time to fix the animation.

The same thing happened with Armada. Hasbro rushed the production for a weekday Mon thru Fri release schedule and we got unfinished animation and script errors galore where every minicon was called the wrong name because all they had were the early placeholder names. It was a mess.

Repeats aired the finished work, as they were corrected.

They were delivering around 50 episodes within a seven month window both times, so errors happened and a lot just never got fixed.

A weekly schedule probably would have helped a bit, but wouldn't have fixed the issue. Weekly releases for shows like Getter and DragonBall were still filled with animation errors from Toei. It's become part of their reputation.

Boulder has been working on the preproduction writing and animation for a few months now. Hopefully it's not a Toei mess.

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>>6471337
I know for a fact I owned Transmetal Primal but I got him at a discount place so I can't remember if it was before or after Beast Machines Buzzsaw who I will look for any excuse to post.

>>6471329
>Didn't Obari animate a Transformers show?
Yes, he was one of the animators for G1.

>Was it any good?
Animation-wise? Mixed at best, godawful at worst. But nowhere near the stiffness of Filmation.

Plot-wise?
-Season 1's okay, but has a few stinkers
-Season 2? Hope you like the 87 TMNT series, because there's a lot of stupid episodes that rival that show's plots. Though having David Wise on the writing staff probably didn't help.
-Season 3? Despite the shitty animation, it does try to be serious (or as series as a show about alien robots can be). But there's still some dumb episodes here and there.
-Season 4? Rushed as fuck, and its pacing is probably on par with the most recent Bayformers film within the first episode alone.

>>6471378
>Takara released the show months later and had even more time to fix the animation.
Did they? I always just assumed they dubbed all the episodes they got as they originally aired in America.

Especially the AKOM-animated ones.

>>6471378
Damn, that's rough.

I wish we got a studio Sunrise cartoon or something during the 90s, would have been sick

>>6471363
Gee, I wonder why the only product that they've consistently produced until now is leading this franchise. Couldn't possibly because having literally, absolutely nothing to sell you because of G1 pandering would push you away from the franchise.

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>>6470789
>>6471056

Whats the difference between the takara version and the shared exclusive version we have now?

Also, is there a Takara version MPM bumblebee with significant differences on the horizon?

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>>6471399
>G1 pandering
>consistent

So what do you call the era of toys that were from Beast Wars until the foundation of the CHUG line?

>>6471399
They've sold you BW toys. They've sold you AEC toys. They've sold you movie toys. They've sold you Animated toys. They've sold you Prime toys. They've even put in BW stuff into CHUG. They put G1 as the focus because they realize G1 sells the most.

CHUG went from being a filler line to being the mainline because it's the only thing most people care about aside from MPs.

>>6471409
Ancient history.

>rirfib vs ribfir
>G1 vs everything
>geewun vs redunn
>bayformerfags vs everyone
>hastak fags vs 3p fags
>hasbrocucks vs takaracucks
>CWcucks vs TRcucks vs POTPKinofags

wtf you'd think people who collect plastic robot toys wouldn't be this fragmented

>>6471423
Anything /m/ related is cursed to have a shit fanbase for all of time

>>6470869
RID Fix-it has something to say about that.

>>6471452
Not even RID Fix-it...the titan master- i mean Prime master inside has more articulation.

>>6471468
Nice, can't wait till it's finished.

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>get MPM4 in today
>ankle joints seem like they're diecast on plastic joints

>>6471468
Ah the only version of Windblade that should exist. The Japanese moe seed demon

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>>6471337
"I wish I was born in the 80's/90's" -Me at least

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>>6471481
>is actually diecast with a plastic inlay

That's pretty smart actually. This is only the forward ankle tilt, I can't get into the side ankle tilt due to that being pinned, but hopefully it's constructed in a similar way

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>>6471483
You rang?

>>6471337
Either G1 Grimlock, Metroplex or Smokescreen can't remember.

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Anyone else think they'll retool Overlord/Sky Shadow into Thunderwing for Potp?
Warden said that all Leaders of the line can hold the Matrix/PMs in their chest, so it seems pretty fitting that the gimmick is already there on the mold.

>>6471337
G1 Bee.

>>6471513
No, he'll be a new mold.

>>6471513
The Leader-wide gimmick in PotP is "little robot merges with accessory to make matrix-bearer robot", so unless hey can retool the whole Duocon gimmick into a smaller "inner Thunderwing" with parts to make "outer shell Thunderwing", that won't happen.

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>>6471337
Technically speaking, it was McDonald's Ironhide when I was 8 or so, and I do remember liking the toy but not even knowing there was a show attached to it. The first one I "actually bought" was the classic Camaro 'Bee from the 2007 movie.

>>6471524

So your from Europe or Canada.

>>6471531
Yup, Poortuguese faggot here. Didn't the States get the Happy Meal toys during Energon?

What would be a good day to mourn the great Unicron and Metroplex genocide carried out by FrenzyRumble's combiner policies?

>>6471556
UW Devastator release date, hell CW reveal date, if it wasn't for the cheap combiners he still would be chopping Unicrotches.

>>6471337
Either G2 Rapido, G2 Swindle, or G2 Dreadwing/Smokescreen. I was super young and got them around the same time period, so idk which I got first

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>>6471337
>Painted the insides of the shoulders silver with spraypaint and layered it too thick because the blue paint was chipping off
I'm so sorry Railspike.
Is the Takara/Sono Kong set worth tracking down? I got Rapid Run and Midnight Express as soon as I found out Railspike was part of a combiner team but they've both seen better days.

>>6471534
Nope. Only Europe or Canada got them.

For the USA

Beast Wars Season 1: McDonalds
Beast Wars Season 2: McDonalds
Beast Machines: McDonalds
Beast Machines Season 2: Skipped (Jollybee's)
Armada = McDonalds
Energon = Skipped (McDonalds)
Cybertron = Burger King
Movie 1 = Burger King
Movie 2 = Burger King
Animated = McDonalds (Europe got an extra figure)
Movie 3 = Burger King
Prime = McDonalds
Movie 4 = McDonalds
RID = McDonalds

>>6471570
Takara Rail Racer has transparent windows and more train-related tampos on the train modes and less autobot logos. Hasbro has painted windows to cheapen out and not use painted transparent palstic

>>6471570
Car Robots masterpieces when?

>>6471583
You can't improve upon perfection anon.

>>6471337
Fuck, I think I had that fox kids repaint of Rhinox

I was really young so i didn't understand it, I was born 93, that toy came out mid nineties?

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>>6471590
Are you serious? >>6471570 looks like a stick figure with Shinkansen parts hanging onto its shoulders, that shit's anything but perfection.

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>>6471337
>What was your first transformers toy, /tfg/?
picrelated
i still have it

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So I've monkeyed around with my Defensor guys a bit more and I've concluded that all the individual figures are pretty solid. The vehicle modes for each of them are all stellar, I love the paint and the detail is great. The robot modes are all good-to-okay, except for Hot Spot who seems to suffer from janky leg ratchet joints. He looks good, it's just I have to work to get his legs even sort of symmetrical. It's annoying. His legs have no weight to them either which detracts from both his robot form and the combined form, and my best bet at a dynamic pose seems to be letting his ladder work as a tripod. But he DOES look good.

I have Groove swapped out for Rook, because I like Rook's vehicle mode too much. The combined form of all of them together is cool but the way it holds together is kind of dodgy. Still, I like having them arranged this way, pairing the police as the feet (Defensor's got flat feet, get it?) and healing hands with the medical arms. It's a really nice set, but if I'm being honest, they'll probably spend more time as vehicles than anything just because they look so much better that way.

>>6471605
>Paint
Maybe tampographs would be more accurate. I'm not sure, I haven't been in this for very long. They're nice details either way. I like the emblem on Blades that says Autobot Coastal Rescue. That's a nice touch.

>>6471592
Early 2000 or 1999

>>6471101
Never saw the movie, are there screenshots of his jet mode? Is it supposed to be Cybertronian or something?

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>>6471605
Who are you calling flat feet citizen?

>>6471619
>Wanted 6 Sixshots
>Never saw them on clearance
>Sky Shadow is on clearance on every Walmart near me

Fuck.

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>>6471337
I nearly ragequit Transformers because I thought I had lost a hose it didn't even had.

>>6471625
>I was thinking this wouldn't work the last time I saw it in a thread
>Remembered Rook has that peg at the top
I'd almost be tempted to try but I know I'd never manage to balance him without him falling ass over teakettle. It's hard enough to balance him on feet that aren't wheels.

>>6471522
I suppose they could keep the top half of Sky Shadow and replace the tank with a new Jet for the legs that has it's own robot mode. Don't know how worth it that'd be over just making a new mold considering they'd have to remold the top half anyways to look more like Thunderwing and to fit a primemaster/matrix.

>finally ship out box from HLJ
>arrives today
>Road Rage and Steeljaw

I don't regret it, but I forgot how fiddly the minor bits on the Corvette mold were, and Steeljaw needed more time in the oven.

>>6470597
>being excited about Deluxe Dinobots and Voyager Predacons

derp

>>6471046
Marvel is trash, nothing should ever reference it in any way.

>>6471245
Listen, stupid. I agree with you, but you need to pick better examples.

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>>6471630
> I'd never manage to balance him without him falling ass over teakettle.

He stays up fine, Hotspot legs are on his robot configuration, Rook won't roll if you oint the feet to different directions but you always can deploy rooks comboner as a heel.

>>6471649
>expecting the fandom to have standards
kek

>>6471652
gee tumblr why do you have to be a buzzkill

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Will this be more or less of a clusterfuck than MP-36? It didn't look bad from far away, but close up it looks like an absolute mess of fiddly-bits.

>>6471222
They hired some famous concept artist as a guest designer to design Tarn for them and followed his sketches exactly...which I agree looks bad. I dont understand why they would have such a comic accurate Drift but then do that with Tarn.

>>6471649
A bit new here: what's the problem with Deluxe class? My Quake is fine aside from some balance issues

>>6471666
Forget the fiddly parts, Satan, just that backpack ruins the entire figure. I can't imagine how they can make that work without looking like complete ass.

>>6471668
Dinobots in some fiction are depicted as massive compared to regular transformers, so people wanted them larger than deluxe.

It's a pretty stupid since deluxe is a good size for most of them.

>>6471668
Dinobots are big guys.

>>6471668
Because Dinobots are supposed to be big, to satisfy the autism and fat fingers of this insufferable fandom who still hasn't learned that being a scale-miser with Transformers is an exercise in futility.

>>6471674
Eh, I don't mind a backpack. I love MP Hot Rod, and he has a pretty big one, although Roddy also has a much more graceful transformation than Streaker, it looks like.

Still, this is what it takes to get muh cartoon accuracy; a fiddly fucking mess that takes 45 minutes to transform, scratches itself to pieces, looks ugly from the back and has a massive backpack, but HEY! Cartoon accurate in BOTH MODES, Woooooo!

>>6471677
For you, maybe.

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CHUG Grandus when? I know he's a literally who, but then again, so is Trypticon and Fortress Maximus for anyone who isn't a Transformers fan.

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>>6471624
I'm fairly certain he's a Saab Gripen.

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>>6471337
these guys actually, when i was about 4

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>>6470597
>deluxe size Dinobots

>>6471698
Close enough, he just needed those extra bits near the nosecone.

>>6471715
Canards.

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>>6471668
Dinobots are supposed to be huge. Turning them into another 1 voyager/4 deluxe combiner team is fucking boring and takes away what was cool about them to begin with.

But they're FINALLY doing Dinobots after YEARS of people asking for them so I'll take what I can get. I'll just hope for KO upscaled versions.

>>6471717
>kubianbao and wei jiang are going to outcompete hastak to death
I hope Bobbyskullface kills himself then.

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>>6471717
>Dinobots are supposed to be huge. Turning them into another 1 voyager/4 deluxe combiner team is fucking boring and takes away what was cool about them to begin with.

Bingo.

I'm just glad at least one other person gets it.

>>6470954
I got Nitro today @ Wal Mart. Saw Scorn, passed.

>>6471409
>So what do you call the era of toys that were from Beast Wars until the foundation of the CHUG line?
>There was no G1 pandering between RiD and CHUG

No. We had the reissues, for one, starting in 2000. Car robots had most of the character's names changed to be more G1, like Fire Convoy being Optimus, Wildride as X-Brawn, Mach alert as Prowl, etc. Armada was definitely taking influence from G1. Energon had a ton of G1 homages. to say nothing of the MP line and Alternators.

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>>6471717
>Dinobots are supposed to be huge
Kek, are you unironically relying on cartoon scale for comparison? They were massive in some episodes and regular-sized bots in others, even in the 1986 movie they're portrayed as no taller than Hot Rod and Kup.

>Turning them into another 1 voyager/4 deluxe combiner team is fucking boring and takes away what was cool about them to begin with
Oh, sure, the cool thing about the DINObots is the fact that they transformed into robots that were often slightly larger than the average Autobot. No, it isn't the fact that they were freaking dinosaurs or anything, that was just contingent.

>>6471723
Location friend

>>6471690
...? Everyone except bumblebee, optimus, and megatron are literal whos to outsiders
But putting trypticon, a hugely popular toy from the original run, who's had homages of him done a dozen times, and was in MULTIPLE japanese transformers shows, to grandus, who was a toy from a manga...
That's beyond stupid.

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>>6471580
Yeah I'd seen a few reviews of it a while back, does the paint hold up alright? I've never really had issues with clear plastic itself but all that paint is a bit concerning, I remember my Hasbro ones chipped quite easily though that could just be them using shit paint to save money.

>>6471583
Not soon enough, I'd kill for an MP Omega Prime or Rail Racer.

>>6471727
Shut up. bigger is better despite what you've been told.

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Can anyone tell me what's the purpose with Ironhide's neck or it's just normal?

>>6471666
>takara's yellow paint on a toy that needlessly complex

It won't survive being posed, much less transformed. Pray to god it comes in robot mode.

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>>6471727
>They were massive in some episodes and regular-sized bots in others
No. They're consistently massive.

>1986 movie they're portrayed as no taller than Hot Rod and Kup.
Watch it again. In almost every shot they're larger than everyone else even in dino mode.

>Oh, sure, the cool thing about the DINObots is the fact that they transformed into robots that were often slightly larger than the average Autobot. No, it isn't the fact that they were freaking dinosaurs or anything
Stop pretending as if these two things are mutually exclusive. Their size and strength added to the cool factor just as much as them being dinosaurs.

>>6471683
If you hate G1 so much why are you obsessed with Masterpiece toys?

>>6470973
>you can't expect articulation from that.
I know, but... not even an elbow joint?

I'd be happy with legends-sized Pretenders, to be honest. Even if they were just shellformers.

>>6471740
I've always wondered that too.

>>6471740
It's so he can look down.

>>6471744
Gotta have SOMETHING to cry about.

>>6470870
The mold has really loose legs. I have Krok (and love him), but a light breeze will send him toppling over.

>>6471382
Buzzsaw was such a good toy

>>6470686
How great is Misfire ?

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>>6470587
Looking for a regular Optimus Prime like in this search on aliexpress

Transformation kubianbao metal part mpp10 m01 mp10 mp10v figure toy

Anyone buying transformers from there know if they're any good and a possible better seller?

>>6471744
Because muh cartoon accuracy is giving us complete dumpster fires like Megatron and Sunstreaker

>>6471723
How is he?

>>6471761
Nice shit opinion

>>6471666
Do you have to go through customer service to cancel orders on Amiami?

The more I look at this the more he just looks fucking disgusting.

>>6471761
Why are they dumpster fires? explain in detail.

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You know that thing nintendo said? "A rushed game is forever bad"

Jesus christ where do you even begin on this? Like just imagine a vehicle mode where NOTHING works.

>>6471761
Megatron isn't a bad mold as far as design goes, he just has that fuck-awful unfinished grey plastic look to him - which yes, might be a contingency of "cartoonification", but it still doesn't entirely ruin him. Sunstreaker looks fucking disgusting though, I'll have to agree with you on that.

Oh well, hopefully Takara sees how divisive the cartoon accurate trend is and at the very least gives us slightly more balanced designs in that regard.

>>6471759
Awfully mediocre.

Surely there are other threads that need monitored miss?

>>6471774
Not him but the fact that Sunstreaker looks aesthetically inconsistent when side by side with his brother is enough of a reason to dislike him. I don't expect this sort of shit from figures capped at 70 dollars.

>>6470901
>ROTF one has a great paintjob
I love the look of ROTF Megs, but I really hate how his head is so visible in tank-mode. Voyager or Leader doesn't seem to make a difference there.

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>>6471783
>inconsistent

Works on my machine. Maybe you're just too autistic.

>>6470930
Same. I really wanted Sqweeks, too. Ended up buying him online.

>>6471787
One has Gundam-ish mechanical proportions, the other one looks like a bland and slim vinyl statue. They don't look aesthetically consistent at all to me. Also, dat fake chest and dat backpack.

>>6471783
Would you say the + version of Sideswipe is more in line with Sunstreaker?

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>>6471796
No, I'd say third parties actually got it right.

>>6471787
The one on the left is a matte yellow panel disaster that wears everything that isn't sunbow-approved as a backpack. The one on the right is a chunky toy that turns into a car.

>>6471804
Ouf, I'm going to have to disagree with that.

>>6471804
Anon you picked the wrong turd to make your point with.

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>>6471794
Why do you think Sideswipe looks like a vinyl statue?

>>6471787
Not him and I'm not even into Masterpiece but you have to be blind or aesthetically challenged to not notice they don't even look like they belong to the same toyline.

>>6471804
Wasn't there a 3P Sunstreaker that used the actual roof like it should?

>>6471818
Left - looks like a show accurate G1 Sunstreaker
Right - looks like a show accurate G1 Sideswipe

Totally fucking different toy lines.

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>>6471816
Because, unlike modern interpretations of RX-78-2 (or pre-Tracks Masterpieces for the matter), he's just a plain design with little to no extra detail added on him besides what was already in the childish Sunbow design.

Once again, it's as if Gundams were forced to never evolve beyond this on any other aspect besides articulation.

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>>6471819
>looks like a show accurate G1 Sideswipe
Sure, whatever you say.

>>6471819
>Left - looks like a show accurate G1 Sunstreaker
>Right - looks like a perfect synthesis of show, toy and comics G1 Sideswipe designs
ftfy

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>>6471822
>this is how MP Lambor would look if he was released today

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>>6471823
Right doesn't look like the G1 toy at all.
>comics
Which was just the show design with shittier coloring.

So you're either shitposting or you're blind.

>>6471633
They made Overlord's jet half a 97% new mold. I doubt it's out of the question.

Hasbro's mentality seems to have shifted from "Who can we redeco this figure into?" to "How many parts can we reuse from Mold A for Mold B?".

>>6471824
I wish, he'd look like a mess of folded panels with hollow limbs and a gigantic backpack.

>>6471779
It's honestly just the shitty factories. The design of the toy is top-notch. I'm not a fan of his transformation process of folding two long pieces over each other, but his bot mode and vehicle mode both book flawless - well, assuming they were properly painted and assembled.

>>6471337
>>6471349
Same here, pal. G1 Prime, the year it came out. I was 3.

It was a humble time. A time when parents bought their 3-year-old a toy they could swallow and die from without giving a fuck.

Those were the days, lads.

>>6471820
The car robots never had much detail on their sculpt, though. And Sideswipe can't have his proper Gundam proportions because he has to have the giant front end of the car as his chest but without breaks to make Lamborghini happy

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>>6471824
I like the look of the cartoon model of Sideswipe but the MP is built like a tank. Surely being accurate to the cartoon could've been sacrificed to give that to MP Sunstreaker too; RIP Omnigonix taken too soon; and let's be honest, a modern MP Lambor wouldn't look like that it would just look like shit.

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>Working at my desk
>Glance over at transformer on my desk
Like having a little buddy telling me to keep up the good work.

[spoiler]Which I'm squandering by posting here but still.[/spoiler]

>>6471844
>Can't hide my shameful confessions
/toy/ can see right through me, I should have known.

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>>6470597
>THANK FUCK titans return is finally ending.

>>6471844
i got like these mini big headed blind bag transformers on top of my screen watching me masturbate...

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>>6471826
>Right doesn't look like the G1 toy at all
Same wide chest, same line cutouts on the chest and limbs, more or less the same transformation, amongst other details. Of course he isn't entirely based on a bricky G1 figure but it's still very much clear that he was used as a source of reference in the design process.

>comics, Which was just the show design with shittier coloring.
Y'know, there have been more G1-based comics with improved designs besides the original Marvel ones.

>>6471831
>The design of the toy is top-notch.

The design's all there, but nothing fits or lines up right. Even discounting the alleged factory mishaps, this fucker was not ready for production

>>6471850
>improved designs
>Dreamwave

So you ARE a shitposter.

>>6470756

>boypuccy

Whatever are you blathering on about?

>>6471856
I'm not even a Dreamwave apologist but they're literally just redone G1 designs with a few extra details here and there. It does seem fair to call them improved designs.

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>>6471860
>a few extra details
>this is your idea of a few

I'm glad the MP line is as far away from your preference as possible.

>>6470794

It may be a repack. Or it may be one of those themed redecos, like arctic Grimlock or something

>>6471382
>tfw I ruined my Buzzsaw because I used his head to make Lego aliens and wore out the ball joint socket
Looking back, there's a lot I don't like about this toy. The spring, how its other arm doesn't even have hands (if it was a modern Deluxe, I'd suggest having hands that fold out from the underside of the legs, and have two hands on one side)... the wings as legs is a really clever idea, though, though it wasn't the most stable.

>>6471868
They've been fighting for millions of years, man.

>>6471876
Buzzsaw is a scout class.

So a modern deluxe.

>>6471868
Sure, because Prime looked like that all the time.

>>6470901

Weijiang upscale of TLK Voyager Megatron.

>>6471876
I didn't mind the trap-made-of-insect-legs hands of the beast era, just that it was always done because arthropods are the fucking worst at cleaning up a robot mode.
Even the ones that did it well (Inferno, season one Tarantulas, Insecticon, Scarem) harmed in one way or another the robot mode.

>>6471852
The copy pasta isn't wrong though.

>>6471872
>ME GRIMLOCK NOT SNOWMAN, ME KING!

>>6471876
Buzzsaw is a scout class.

So a modern Legends.

>>6471769
You can email them I think

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>>6471036
>>6471046


I would love a re-release of the RTS Legion Class Megatron in anime colors and a black helmet

Id also like a redeco like this comic cover.

>>6471932
I really gotta start reading some of the comics, that cover is dank

>>6471906
>not a modern Voyager

>>6471949
This page has most of them but please buy them legally. ;^)
http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/The-Transformers-1984

>>6471959
Oi thanks m8

>>6471878
I'd say he's more along the lines of a legends.

Or sort of in between the two. I've got my BM Obsidian on my shelf, and he's way shorter (and made of far less plastic) than my TR deluxes.

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Perhaps Transformers were a mistake.

>>6471993
>Fidge Tits

>>6471994
>tfw a girl glued some to pasties and called it that now shes an online sensation

What kinda world are we living in.

Hey /tfg/.
As a kid I always liked the original G1 transformers but never really collected the toys for them, now I'm older though, I kinda want to get into collecting.

I would start with the originals but ones I've found are either too expensive to make the initial plunge (to see if I like collecting them) or incomplete.

Which line would you recommend for a starter?

>>6472004
Power of the Primes.

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>>6472004
Anything CHUG

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I think the only thing salvageable about the truck mode is how the details behind the windshield make it look like a cross-eyed Cars character to me. I like that.

>>6471787
Good god Sunstreaker looks awful. It's mostly the head, he looks like a goofy, toothless old man wearing a bathing cap.

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>I'm sorry your masterpiece couldn't actually be a masterpiece like mine is, Prime

>>6471787
Man the aesthetic of the MP line changed so much

Just look at Sideswipe's face compared to Sunstreaker's.

>>6471717
>trusting the g1 cartoon for scale

soundwaveanddevastator.jpg

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The robot mode for him does still look ridiculously good, though. My only honest complaint with it is that the hip joints are slightly fiddly with how they extend downwards. And the hands, the hands suck worse tham MPM3's.

But yeah no everything's all there with him, he's big, he's solid, everything fits together really nicely (I've heard complaints about the chest parts being loose but mine feels like he could survive tumbling down stairs without coming apart), he's got all the articulation I want and he stands really well. It's just the truck mode is just mindbogglingly bad.

>>6472038
those screenshots are fine faggot. >>6471743

>>6471787
So I think we can all agree that the cartoon accuracy retardation has hit the ceiling with Megatron and Sunstreaker here. Now Megatron's sales are going to be high regardless because people have been waiting for him for over a decade, and he's a poster child of the franchise. All kinds of collectors shelled out for him because he's a must-have character. However, I wonder if the polarizing new design choices and inflated price point are going to put people off of Sunstreaker. I'd be curious to see the actual sales figures of these things since the aesthetic has changed so much.

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>>6472039
Also I put the backpack like this to slimght down his silhouette. Since basically the first time they showed his back I was saying it would look neater like this (it does), I'm really glad you can actually configure it like it.

So I guess I like my new action master murderprime, but if I get any indication that Takara's release fixes the vehicle mode he's going in the bin.

>>6471841
This. I actually really like the big blocky car canopy torso. It's authentic and I bet Takara could have managed it with a good deal of finesse, instead of having to make him a sunbow accurate panel explosion .

>>6472041
finely cherry-picked

>>6471848
I'm glad it's ending. I've spent way too much money on retail stuff because of how fun TR was.

>>6472038
I'm not gonna say soundwaveanddevastator.jpg isn't a good counter argument to people who think sunbow gave a shit about being on model at all, but really if you went through the entire show the Dinobots are always huge.