3p General: look at this edition

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I really want the War Within Megatron, but I think he looks good enough that I can beef of Optimze

From last thread

>>6445752

>>6445803
Gdi I want him but I can't justify that kind of money on a character I only think looks cool.

>>6445803
He looks fantastic but I ain't dropping $290 burger bucks on Drift.

Maybe he'll bomb and I'll be able to get a hot deal like when HLJ had the giant Sentinel Scorponok on sale.

>>6446177
>$290
Where did you see that number?

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>>6445803
>290$ for a non-transforming figure

Yeah get MMC Beta

>>6445803
Looks like he's got points a plenty to me.

>>6445803
Considering Drift always had had a dumbass alt mode, I might snag this. Looks fuckin' amazing.

That Drift isn't 3P. It's officially licensed.

>>6445803

Looks good, but

>non-transforming Transformer

Right into the dumpster it goes. If I wanted regular action figures I'd go buy some figma and revoltechs (and I do). I want transformers because they turn into stuff. I don't care if what they turn into is some nonsensical fucking cybertronian vehicle, I've bought guys that turn into fucking boxes that don't do shit (Soundwave, Blaster), and guys that turn into a fucking chair for fucks sake.

>>6446261
Yes but we talk about it here because no one in the official thread likes it or cares. Plus technically it IS a true official third party toy.

>>6446181
There was a post made about it in one of the official threads but of course I can't find it because there's like 600.

>>6445819
Noob here - where are these from?

>>6446268
People at TFCon were saying it was $320 but now I'm not sure.

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Babby shockwave is pretty nice. I wish he had an ab crunch but aside from that, he does what a shockwave needs to do. I love the shade of purple, his lightpiping works well even if I'd prefer yellow, and the hose seems to be implemented pretty well.

All told though, I think I sort of prefer the combiner wars one. I just wish I could find the little bastard to properly compare them.

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>>6446395
Babby starscream, I'm less down with. He seems to suffer much more from parts colliding, and he really could have used double knees more than bridge watcher. Like, he's better than the generations one, but this is one of those times where you really have to ask if he's 4x the price better.

Did anyone ever make an IDW Sentinel Prime? He looks like he'd make a pretty kickass figure

>>6446395
My Babby Shockwave is currently under the terror grip of Super Big Repugnus. The scale difference between them is fun. Where did the legends-scale Megatron gun come from?

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>>6446404
Also, the prospect of 3rd party BAFs legitimately scares me.

>>6446417

...Are pieces of him coming with the other Seeker figures or something? Also, FUCK IF for the bullshit they're pulling with the Seekers and Elite Seekers.

>Scream/Cracker/Warp
>$40 fucking dollary doos apiece
>Elite Seekers aka Coneheads aka 'those guys'
>come in one fucking set for $90

This is fucking bullshit and I'm livid they're gonna get away with it because Seekerfags will buy anything.

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>>6446412

Not yet, but there is an official one using the Astrotrain TR mold. I'd really like to see an MMC figure of him though.

>>6446416
It came with their starscream. Truth be told, he did come with a bunch of shit, the cape and crown, gun megs, a stand, and the ghost starscream chest/whale bait.

>>6446478
I haven't been paying attention, doesn't one of them come with sunstorm parts?

>>6446495
Though I definitely would want that Megs gun, I find myself in a somewhat safer zone by legitimately not finding interest in the seekers.

>>6445803
If he transformed for 300 bucks, i'd be tempted. As is, i'll probably just wait for the MMC Drift (Beta or whatever he's supposed to be called.)

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Whos Mr Line Eyes in the back behind Soundwave and Shockwave?

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Is Tyrantron still coming next month? I've got such an anticipation boner.

>>6446557
Someone really needs to make a really nice IDW Megatron that turns into both a tank and a jet if no one has already

>>6446556
Shit, I can't even tell who the purple 'con leading them is. My least favourite artstyle in the series. Is line eyes in any other shots further down the comic? Looks like he at least has a prominent jaw.

>>6446571
The one on the right is Blitzwing.
Line eyes has shown up in some other issues so I think he must have some degree of prominence, he isn't just some throwaway

>>6446571
Found him on TFwiki, apparently his name is Blackwall

>>6446495
>doesn't one of them come with sunstorm parts?

No idea. Do any of the other ones come with extra shit with the IF Seekers?

>>6446557
Thats a damn adorable picture.

>>6446404
That's a shame. I was thinking of picking up little Thundercracker.

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>Drift is $300
Welp, there goes any idea of me buying this bastard.

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SOMETHING APPROACHES

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>>6446675

>>6446671
Oh fuck muh dick I have to have that.

>>6446177
>>6446366
>>6446553
>>6446671
>sentinel
Just wait for it to drop to like $150. Their shit is notorious for being overpriced and gets slashed in price. Don't fall for Sentinel shills. Their products are NEVER worth the asking price.

>>6446675
>That filename

You're the massive buy Iron Factory Anon from the other thread, aren't you?

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So yeah, I bought this guy, but I didn't blog about him. He's my first big 3P purchase, and I like him, but not as much as I'd hoped. He looks great, but he's a bit... inelegant? Like he's more the equal of MP-01 than MP-10, that's for sure. The ratchet increments in his legs make some poses weird, and he's a bit top-heavy. I had to do some tab-shaving to get some of his panels to clip properly, and all of his fingers are loose, but it doesn't really matter. Paint apps are great all over, except for the hood where the red/black gradient is misaligned from left to right. Kind of noticeable, but doesn't ruin the overall presentation. He looks great in both modes though, and Takara will probably never touch a G2 Laser Prime at this level, so I don't regret it, but for 100 bucks, it seems a bit crude.

I'm hesitant to invest more in 3P, but Takara's official products are really bringing me down as of late. PotP looks a bit trashy, and the MPs have gone full retard. I've got FT's silver Grinder on order for next month, and that's a whopping 200 clams. I just hope he's half as good as people say he is.

>>6446671
why can no one get his goddamn mask right
its going to be probably $350 and the mask looks no better than the retarded MMC one which I bought because fuck me I wanted a Tarn

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Bonus

>>6446683
Oh holy shit youre the guy who bought all those IF's the other day?

>>6446684
>100
That's a fucking steal in the world of 3P.

>>6446675
>>6446676
>>6446678
>>6446683
>>6446686
>>6446687

oh shit, you're the anon from the last thread right?
that was quick.

>>6446693
It was fucking fast as hell. From TFsource even

>>6446692
>>6446694
kek

>>6446671

His feet are too small for a character designed by Milne.

>>6446684

Grinder is super solid. You will not regret him.

>>6446686
So seriously, how are these guys? I bought the three-pack of Prowl/Streak/Smokescreen and I was pretty underwhelmed. They looked and posed great, but their transformations were lame, and their alt. modes were basically just a pile of robot parts on some wheels could barely roll. Some people buy purely for bot modes, but I'm a "whole package" kind of guy. I appreciate some compromise toward balance.

My favorite thing about them ended up being the tiny armory they came with.

>>6446684
Grinder is perfection.

>>6446701
Literally just sat down to mess with them, give me a bit

>>6446686
Christmas in July.
I'm trying to not buy anything else for a bit but I would be too happy to see that on my doorstep.

>>6446699
This. The proportions are all kinds of fucked up. I thought Flame Toys was trying to do super accurate comic representations?

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>>6446716
Speaking of fucked up proportions.

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Drift looked cool until I saw the price.
I had hope for Tarn until I saw Drifts price.
This is apparently a model kit.

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>>6446719

>>6446719
>>6446724
It's like they took a pinch tool to his midsection

>>6446684

I don't know how you're not completely impressed by Laser Prime there. He's better than the majority of MP's, and definitely better than MP-10, let alone the trash pile that is MP1 compared to stuff being produced today. I think maybe you hyped yourself up too much and expected the world, rather than just an incredibly solid, well articulated toy, for less than the cost of an MP.

>>6446719
this is just plain ugly

their Drift looks amazing, why are Tarn and Optimus so shit?

>>6446701
>but I'm a "whole package" kind of guy.

Heres the thing with IF stuff: They have cybertronian alt modes almost through the entire range, based on either IDW, War Within, or FoC/WFC. Mostly IDW or War Within. Atop that, they definitely focus more on 'bot mode than vehicle modes.

tl;dr I think you might be expecting the wrong thing for these figures. Or they're just not the ones for you. But IF stuff on the whole is pretty damn good.

>>6446685

Because you have some kind of magical idea of what the fuck his mask is supposed to look like in his head, based on 2D images in a comic book that change in dimension and curvature from panel to panel because comic.

Thats why. It's you, not the sculpts. You want something that can't actually exist as you see it in the comics because how it looks varies from panel to panel and some of the poses it's in literally cannot happen unless the very mask itself reshapes on a whim. Which it most certainly will not in a physical, 3D object.

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>>6446762
bullshit
it just needs to look like the cover of mtmte #7, that's literally all it needs to do to look good, many amateur 3D modelers have nailed the mask already

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What are my options for a good MP-scale bee?
Doesn't have to be G1 persay, just not movieverse.

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>>6446780
I personally think Kultur looks fine, but I'd still love what you're talking about.

>>6446791

The actual MP figure. He hasn't really had a good 3P version.

>>6446780

That cover literally looks nothing like that mask. Look at the 3D image closer, it's got a forward protruding outward "dent" for the nose, when the mask on the cover doesn't have that.

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>>6446705
>>6446701
Alright, just put Ultimate Commander through his paces.

Tolerances are super tight in places and the lack of outward shoulder motion sucks but bots that armor up into bigger super modes is my weakness so he gets a pass.

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>>6446795
it really cant be that hard, fucking cosplayers on tumblr have already done it

all that said I will still probably buy it but I would like to see it with longer legs and a slight mask readjustment

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>>6446797
It's still better than Kultur. I think the main issue is that the design is hard to capture in such a small scale as a mass produced toy. Only time I've seen detail that sharp and layered in such a small scale is in gunpla model kits.

>>6446685
It's clearly stylized to the sculptor. It may also be a Hasbro mandate thing that it can't be too accurate. All licensed figures aren't based on an explicit depiction from media, so they might have to make do with their restrictions.

>>6446813
>It may also be a Hasbro mandate thing that it can't be too accurate.
Has this happened before with other official 3rd party stuff?

>>6446798
That's a pretty common complain about IF figures it seems. Tolerances are always on the tight side.

>>6446719
its like he's wearing a diaper but it's sliding off

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>>6446824
Not that I know of. It's just a guess based on official licensed figures. 3A and Sentinel do heavily stylized non-transforming figs only. Hot toys is the closest design to the G1 and even then there's some sharp differences on top of the Starscream and Megatron corpse parts. Only the Movie based ones are incredibly accurate, but that's because Paramount has co-ownership of the designs (Hence why Funko made Pops of the movie characters.)

>>6445821
Is that custom painted MPP01?

>>6446719
Now that's fucking stylized. Only beef I have is the crotch piece being WAY too low.

>>6445821
Does that top right one have rubber tires?
How is that figure anyway? I forget what company makes him.

>>6446881

Spark Toys.

>>6446798
The shoulders can go out further, it just feels like they stop at that point.

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>City commander came with a whole lot of extra gun

Well THAT was unexpected

>>6446893
Cheers, anon I'm trying to be super careful with these guys given tight tolerances

>>6445447
Slightly off topic, but that show always reminds me of Megatron and Starscream.

>>6446894

Yeah, the early IF releases gave a fuckton of accessories. Unfortunately, they stopped doing this it seems.

Where did you find the Magnus BTW? I can't find that fucker anywhere.

>>6446902
TFSource for the whole order

>>6446904

Ah, that explains it. I've never bought from there because Anon's always say they're slow as fuck with shipping shit.

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Do all releases of IF's seekers come with the ghost Starscream and Sunstreaker parts, or do they come in like special editions?

I want a ghost and banana jet

>>6447032

I'd like to know this as well. Otherwise them being $10 more per figure than the coneheads is just bullshit.

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>>6446894
it's great isnt it?

>>6446557
Maybe. They set date to Aug 15th, but Whirl was pushed from July 5th to fucking yesterday. Expect 2 week delay.

>>6446582
Perhaps but I like McCarthy's drift more than I probably should.

Reporting in after yesterday where I mentioned some scumbag on eBay was probably trying to scam me on FT-10 Phoenix. I've started a dispute to get my money back so that's fine. Just gonna buy from ShowZ instead.

I assume ShowZ's website is totally fine? Any problems I should be aware of? And what's the "Remark" section in checkout? I'm wondering if I can put a request in there for them to mark the package with a lower value/as a gift just to avoid any potential import taxes.

Oh, and for reference, I apparently glossed over the first few entries, but this is the negative feedback on the eBay seller I mentioned:

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=huiziwang2014&iid=272741974467&de=off&items=25&searchInterval=30&which=negative&interval=365&_trkparms=negative_365

As you can see, despite their feedback percentage etc., they've pulled this shit multiple times before. Asshole. He hasn't responded to me for over a day since he asked me to pay him $69 more, so the dispute is staying until I get my money back.

Just thought some anons would like to know which chink to avoid.

>>6446327
Bump for interest! Who makes best dinos?

>>6446327
>>6447318
That's Fanstoys dinobots. They'll run you a fucking fortune though.

>>6447321
Ho-ree-fuk yeah just check eBay. You're not kidding...

Honestly with the price, size & quality of Wei jjang, the price seems inexcusable really.

>>6447322
Most of them have been out for a while and Fanstoys is one of the best regard/most popular 3Ps around right now. Combine that with popular characters and you get ridiculously inflated prices from resellers.

>>6447318
Depends what you want. MP-scale Dinobots would be GigaPower and FansToys. FansToys' Scoria (Slag) is pretty shite though. It honestly depends on what you want.

For me, I prefer GigaPower. You can't really go wrong with either of them though. Watch reviews on YouTube, read feedback threads etc.

>>6447322
The prices aren't THAT bad compared to when they came out and what for, and keep in mind that Wei Jiang knock shit off so 99% of their work is already done, hence why knock-offs are dirt-cheap to begin with.

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I was browsing around some shops, Robotkingdom has Jinrai Prime arriving august 3rd apparently.

They usually get stuff pretty fast, so I guess Jinrai Prime is an august release now.

>>6447304
>I assume ShowZ's website is totally fine? Any problems I should be aware of? And what's the "Remark" section in checkout? I'm wondering if I can put a request in there for them to mark the package with a lower value/as a gift just to avoid any potential import taxes.
Can anyone comment on this please?

>>6447103
>>6447032
Anyone know where to find this info? I'm having a remarkably hard time finding information about this.

So far as I can tell from images, Thundercracker comes with ghost legs and Sunstorm arms, and Starscream comes with the ghost torso

>>6447343
I can't say about what the "Remark" section refers to. And while I've heard that Show.Z is perfectly reputable from his previous store front, I did notice that his own store now isn't https, so I would personally be hesitant using it to shop.

>>6447380
I suppose, but if you checkout with PayPal, you still go through a secure connection, so it should be fine.

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G Creations Sixshot

>>6447413
That overhang though

>>6447416
At least it's better than MY overhang.

>>6447438
>cue RLM fail trombone sound and zoom in

>>6447456
This sums up my life, anon.

>>6447304
Little update, in case anyone cares:
Bought Phoenix from ShowZ. Gonna call PayPal in the morning to get my money back quicker because I'm not waiting until the end of next week for eBay to do it.

>>6447410
At least they were smart and put wheels under the hood for car-mode

So which is the better Legends scale Seeker mold, the DX9 or the Iron Factory? DX9 looks more GEEWUN but Iron Factory's stuff is stellar from what I understand. I own their Windblade and whilst it suffers from a few slightly loose joints (easily fixed) and some paint errors, it's a great little toy.

>>6447360
Thundercracker and Skywarp come with the limbs for ghost 'scream and Sunstorm. Starscream includes the ghost torso and I believe the torso for Sunstorm comes with their conehead set. Here's hoping Acidstorm is split between the three Bruticus sets!

>>6447479
It depends on your aesthetic taste, I only have the iron factory starscream and I love it. I think the iron factory one has the better robot mode but the DX9 undoubtedly has a more believable jet mode. Iron factory also comes with more accessories.

>>6447524
>Here's hoping Acidstorm is split between the three Bruticus sets!
You know, I would be quite ok with it

>>6447524
Fuck. Now I want to get those seekers. Thanks for raping my wallet, anon.

Iron Factory may as well just have my whole bank account.

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>>6447524
>include unwanted BAF parts driving up production cost
>make boxes twice the size they need to be driving up shipping costs

>>6447550
>not liking Ghost Starscream
>>>/out/

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>>6447553
>not only complicit but actively encouraging anti-consumer practices

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>>6447561
>not only disliking Ghost Starscream but actively hating it and wishing for its existence to cease

>>6447550
Considering the fact that many of iron factory's previous releases are nearly the same size as their seekers and don't come with any BAF parts or figure stands, I'd argue that it's pretty pro-consumer.

>>6447577
Not that anon but if you like Ghost Starscream enough you could always buy him seperatly, but if you don't care for him, or at least not enough to buy him it can be seen as an unwanted piece of plastic that drives up the price a bit.

And if you do like Ghost Starscream but not the other seekers, well then you can fuck right off because you have to buy all of them. I can see where >>6447550 is coming from

>>6446556
I forget his name, but it's something like Blackwall or something. Invented in the -acy series as a rival for Grimlock. Never does anything good and Grimlock kills him while saying a lame action movie one-liner iirc.

>>6447524
Oh shit, there's a Sunstorm? Now I have to get all the Seekers.

>>6447577
That's not what I said, you triple nigger. If you were a fan a Ghost Starscream why wouldn't you prefer a standalone release at $25-$30 rather than having to spend $120 for the BAF

>>6447407
>>6447409
>>6447410
>>6447413

Hexatron looks better than this.

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Where can I find that Reximus Prime? I'm only finding the comics and the G1+silver versions.

>>6447681

Different Anon here, this is kind of bullshit I agree. Now if you want Ghost Starscream, or Sunstorm, you need to:

Buy 2-3 packs at $40 a pop and buy a set pack for $90 atop that. All to get 1 or two figures.

If you DON'T want either of those, now you're getting dinged $10 extra per original Seeker, because they cost $10 more per figure than the Coneheads do.

If you wanted them all, I guess that means you end up with 2 bonus figures you may or may not care about.

Either way it's kind of bullshit, unless you wanted all of them+the coneheads. Thats the only way this whole thing maths out to something resembling "acceptable".

>>6447735
Get Grinder my dude. A lot better than MP08''s dated mold.

>>6446734
MP 10 is far more graceful, has a better transformation, better QC, and definitely a better alt mode, especially given how much more complex it is. Gunfighter doesn't even make an attempt to hide the arms or feet. I'm not saying it looks bad, but they clearly weren't aiming very high, and they still stumbled a bit.

If any of you wanted the Yellow Rally he's only available at PSX right now. Ages3andUp sold out within a few hours last night.

>>6447860
Fanshobby is really about making simple and fun transforming figures with nice accents and a little bit of flair. Nothing they have done is particularly complicated so can understand why you'd want something more complex. I still haven't bought anything of theirs but I might cave on flypro. He just looks like a lot of fun.

>>6447739
Absolutely this.

Grinder is superior in every way EXCEPT subjectively the dino head. It's a great head but it's not TOTALLY G1 accurate, HOWEVER if that IS important to you, FT has a more accurate dino head replacement coming soon.

Either way, it's still overall the superior figure. Articulation is a bit better, it's in scale with current MPs, sturdier, similar transformation but with small tweaks like having plates to cover the entire inner legs which makes his bot mode's aesthetic significantly better, and he has fewer hollow bits. Take the toes, for instance. MP and Reximus have hollow dino toes whereas Grinders are completely solid. Even more obvious is the inner detailing on the "wings". The original MP mold's "wings" are much less detailed and what details that are there don't look as much like details as they do the underside of a mold. Ginder's "wings" are each two pieces sandwiched together so the details on the inside look just as fleshed out as the details on the outside.

Basically, go for Grinder. He's just so much better.

>>6447885
All the review samples that have gone out for him really are driving up my anticipation (I already have the first two). As always, promo code ECBUY2 should net $10 off when you buy directly from them -- valid through August 31st. If you go whole hog, FH15OFF is 15% off a purchase of $250 or more (cannot be combined with the other one). Wish that I had had these before I placed my order, rather than getting them with my first shipments, but that's just the way things go sometimes.

>>6446791
I'll agree that the actual mp is pretty great. He's the subject of a lot of ridicule because he's very small and was very expensive if you got cucked by bbts or tfsource, but he's a damn great figure. I also recall people got mad over his alt mode being realistic instead of cartoony.

I highly recommend G2 Bee. Bling as fuck, and if you don't care about Spike in the exosuit, the jet pack is a better accessory.

>>6446750
I dunno. The more recent stuff seems to have better alt modes. Look at the Lambo brothers coming out.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxXnSmOFiDI

PE: Jenrai Prime review. Looks like a winner, but no combination video yet.

>>6447908

Promocodes for where?

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IF Shockwave came from Toydojo and he's. Small.

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>>6448042
I wanted him to be bigger than the Hastak but he's only a smidge bigger

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>>6448044
His foot doesn't pivot to move forward but his whole shin and pop out to allow this

How big is Iron Factory's Prowl compared to a legends like Gears

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>>6448048
Notice his leg.

IF is always tight joints, the only joint that is dangerously tight is his thigh swivel. his hip join feels like a hard brittle, and I worry about the torque on it

>>6448042

I mean honestly to me as someone who collects a lot of legends scale that Soundwave is just big. I still use is as my Soundwave cause it's the best one but it looks taller next to basically anything else than I expect Soundwave to be. Bridgewatcher seems the right size to me. But we probably have slightly different collections of figures and slightly different ideas of how tall Shockwave or Soundwave are supposed to be obviously.

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>>6448054
But his gun mode looks great and you can remove his hands

I like him, I'm glad he was on sale. If he was full price I would've been underwhelmed. I really wish he could look up

>>6448056
That's true, I like Soundwave being eye to eye with big boys. I guess what makes it meh is he can't look up at all the people taller than him.

Soundwave is fuck huge. He just looks relly good. Legends scale does have room to wiggle

>>6448024
Direct from Fans Hobby themselves -- https://fans-hobby.myshopify.com/

>>6448054
I tried unscrewing that screw on his thigh so I could get in there and throw some soap or something on that peg, but it's still attatched to part of the knee joint. I'm definitely a little scared of that swivel, I'm not sure what I'm gonna do about it.

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>>6448024
>Dedicated ab crunch

Above and beyond! Hell I don't even know if I'll use him as super's torso sincee he's so fun on his own. Why the fuck did it have to be pushed back a week? They said today! I WANT HIM NOW!

>>6447739
>>6447889
I can't stand Grinder's proportions. The arms and waist are completely fucked up.

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>>6448024
>it's basically Voyager size
>probably perfect size to compare with Classics Prime

>>6448301
He looks like such a fun guy, pretty affordable as well

>>6448301
He looks like he'll scale so damn perfectly with official shit

>>6448263
I guess you could argue that the thighs and waste are a little thinner which may not be to your personal taste but I'd hardly call that "completely fucked up", not to mention I have no idea what your complaint with the arms is. Are you sure you're not just looking at pictures where they forgot to collapse the forearms or something?

Either way, I'd still say slightly off proportions are more than a fair trade-off for the overall better finish. Like I said, the MP Grimlock mold's inner legs look like a total mess with all of the visible tail bits folded in there and the wings look so cheap from the inside. Also, I should mention that Grinder just kinda photographs oddly in robot mode. For the longest time, I also didn't like his proportions and something seemed off but I just decided to bite the bullet anyway because of the aforementioned extra finish and he looks a lot better in person. Proportions look completely normal in person.

It's ultimately your money so it's your call but I'd still recommend giving Grinder a chance instead of tracking down Reximus Prime.

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>>6448301
The only thing I'm disapointed in with this kit is that I would have liked to have some kind of clip or something to attach to the trailer so that it would both be able to connect more securely and also hide the gaping screw hole.

It's really a complete non-issue, but still

>>6448320

I love my Grinder, and his proportions are great in-hand. Makes my MP-08 feel totally cheap and outdated.

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>>6448319

>>6448654
MP-08 looks cheap and outdated without comparison.

I keep hearing this same praise for Grinder. It had better not be just one shill, spamming it over and over...

>>6448812

The problem with praising Grinder is that he isn't something new. He isn't something Takara hasn't done. His transformation hasn't really changed, because it was already pretty great.

So there isn't really much to say about him other than he's Grimlock perfected. He's not as exciting as other 3P figures, but that doesn't make him not great.

>>6448054
>IF is always tight joints, the only joint that is dangerously tight is his thigh swivel. his hip join feels like a hard brittle, and I worry about the torque on it

Got my IF Shockwave today and I noticed that the thigh swivels are so tight they might as well be glued together, I can't get them to move at all. And I also noticed the plastic feels brittle and slightly chalky? This guy is my first Iron Factory figure so I wasn't sure if this is normal or not but honestly I'm disappointed. I can't use the thigh swivels, the leg pieces pop open everytime I bend the legs and overall he feels oddly cheap in hand.

Flame Toy's announced their next figure after Tarn is Str Saber and he actually looks more like the comic art. Wonder why Tarn's design was so far out in left field compared to Drift and Saber.

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>>6448024

Why do I want it even though I have pic related? I keep a small collection and I'm not even particularly into Optimus.

>>6448861
I think you just got a bum copy, sorry to hear that.

Alright, I've fiddled with my massive order enough that I'm ready to offer up some opinions.

>Ultimate Commander/SG Optimus/God Ginrai
Looks the best out of all of them.
Wish he had forward rotation on his legs for the super mode
Leg armor could peg in more solidly
Other wise fantastic figure

>City Commander/Magnus
ALL THE GUN
Clean robot and vehicle modes for the most part
Wish the rear of the vehicle mode tabbed together better, also it's a pain to get everything to line up properly so that the vehicle sits level

>Shadow Tengu/Sixshot
Whoever designed these fucking shoulder joints to be on a swivel for transformation at theis scale with no way to lock them in place deserves to be shot
Great in most modes, gun mode is meh
Would be perfect in bot mode if it wasn't for those GODDAMN SHOULDER SWIVELS KEEP ROTATING WHEN I JUST WANT TO MOVE THE GODDAMN ARM

>Soul Reaper/Sky Shadow
Looks fucking fantastic, great bot mode
Okay vehicle mode but tabbing the wings in can be a bit tricky.
Great colors, great personality, great toy. Don't know anything about Sky Shadow but hey.

>Pink Assassin/Arcee
It's cute, I guess. Definitely shows itself as an early release
Transformation is practically non existent
Good thing she came with a stand because it's hard as balls to get her to stand on her own.
Uguu~

>Bridge Watcher/Shockwave
Fortunately avoided any real issues with mine
Looks great, feels great
Gun mode will have to be a submarine mode until I get something to hold him

>Lord Scorpion/Scorponok
Some how a better base mode in legends scale than any official release of the past decade
Big, beefy and full of gun
Scorpion mode is adorable
Tolerances are super tight on the turrets, worried about stress marks

>Tyrants Wings Red/Starscream
Great in both modes, love the tiny coronation gear
Transformation is sketch because tolerances with the wing pack folding down
Popped a panel off the back but got it back in

>>6448924
Are you able to turn the thigh swivels on your Shockwave?

>>6448932
Yes, although the left one is a little tight. I was able to transform him with ease

>>6448938
Well fuck.

>>6448959

Not that Anon, but you can try to heat the tight area with a hair dryer, and then let it cool and see if it loosens it.

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On that note, Lord Scorpion makes a fantastic throne

>>6448961
Thanks, I'll give that a try and report back.

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Just got Iron Factory Six Shot and he's awesome. There's a weird problem on mine though and the knee's just can't lock on anymore. The tab on the back leg can't seem to lock on the inside for some reason anymore or is there some sorta trick to it?

Regardless its still an awesome piece and I plan to hunt down Soul Reaper/Black Shadow very soon.

>>6448971
Nope didn't work, but it did make the hips softer and I was momentarily worried they would sheer right off.
But yeah I am not impressed with this guy at all, thighs swivels won't budge, backpack wont peg in without serious aligning and brute force. I'm kinda tempted to just return him at this point since I have the CW Shockwave.
I was so ready to find out why everyone praised IF so highly. Bummer.

>>6448909
>Why do I want it even though I have pic related

Because Perfect Effect's doesn't have shitty anime triangle proportions or a shitty alt mode?

>>6449026

You're supposed to wait until it is stone cold before trying to move it again, man. Like, an hour or two at least. I'd also, at this point, try exchanging it for another. It definitely shouldn't be that way, it's possible you got a bum copy, or perhaps the paint on the legs has stuck them together.

>>6449051
>You're supposed to wait until it is stone cold before trying to move it again, man.
Whelp. First time trying this so I didn't know that.

And yeah I'm debating on whether to exchange or return altogether.

>>6449063
>Whelp. First time trying this so I didn't know that.

Ah shit, I thought I made it clear enough when I said "let it cool". Sorry. But yeah, if you're still having troubles even AFTER the heat treatment, somethings probably outright wrong with your figure, especially if others aren't having this issue.

>>6448812
>>6448320
Same here. I was dissapointed at first with the reveal. But after biting the bullet the figure was better than I expected. It is the best build FT Dinobot. But it isn't the most exciting figure because it doesn't feel like something new but rather an improvement of something we already had.

It does feel refreshing now to be able to dump my MP8 though.

>>6448924
I have their Magnus and I can't say I'm a fan of his shoulder assembly. They way its just a hinge that pegs in terrifies me, because in the end it's all on the hinge

>>6446556

That's Blackwall. Gladiator. Bitter rival of Grimlock (and stronger than he is).

>>6446671

As it should. There is something metaphorically perverse about buying Transformers that don't transform.

Ask me how many Action Masters I own. Come on. I dare you.

>>6446687

Hmmm. Have him. Not over the moon, per se. I had to have him, of course, but... I kind of want a Spark Toys level one of this mold.

>>6446719

Looks like he's about to throw down a sick rhyme. All that's missing are a head scarf and the Matrix on a gold chain around his neck.

Did anyone ever make an IDW Thunderwing?

>>6448320
>>6448654
I already had Grinder in hand and it looks like shit. You're simply more forgiving with Grinder because it isn't an official figure. I don't care if the figure is super solid or fun to transform if it looks bad. Look is my top priority. Unless Giga releases their Grimlock with toon color instaed of their usual gaudy and terrible color scheme, Reximus will stay the best looking one by far.

>>6449152
>As it should. There is something metaphorically perverse about buying Transformers that don't transform.
Some of us would like super accurate versions of the character that we can pose like a figuart or revo that isn't sacrificing design accuracy so that it can still transform. There are a few of us who actually want that believe it or not (I know it's difficult).
That being said I was excited for Tarn there but he ended up looking like shit with those awful gorilla arms and a cannon that's going to restrict his movement even more than the mmc one's.

>>6449169

Yes, the Gang of Devils did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5hKK0UFqtY

>>6449152
>metaphorically

*metaphysically. I must be going senile.

>>6449196

Also: if Thew is the most enjoyable reviewer, Chefatron is the most insufferable and Emgo's the most annoying in a style sense, is Benscollectables the nicest?

>>6448488
I wish the smokestacks were on his shoulders. Or behind him. I never seen any on the front like that.

>>6449202
No he is the shill-iest.

>>6449202
Of the few reviewers I've had personal contact with, vangelus and peaugh seem like really cool dudes. Benscollectables was a bit standoffish. Hell, even protoman, who has a bit of a cocky jock vibe seemed more chill.

>>6449202
>Benscollectables the nicest?

Maybe he is, but as far as giving an honest assesment of toys go, he's definitely the least trustworthy.

>>6449443

Well, those are not contradictory.

"I feel bad giving a bad review"

Unlike Thew, who is at his happiest when reviewing abject irredeemable garbage.

>>6447681
Fuck you, quadruple nigger, I like my pack-in Ghost Starscream.

>>6447739
Not that anon but that's not what he asked. He wants to know about Reximus Prime, not Grinder.

I also personally don't care for Grinder either. Then again, I just wish someone would make another Grimlock with all of MP-08's accessories, because I'm one of the few who really want those.

>>6446791
There was ToyWorld's Bii but good luck getting one now. I hear it's not easy to find for a reasonable price these days.

>>6447917
>I also recall people got mad over his alt mode being realistic instead of cartoony.
And also because he has gaps in his forearms. Boohoo.

I got him from HLJ and considering he comes with a transforming Spike, I think it was well worth it, personally. Cheaper than the other Autobot cars, for starters.

The G2 version's jetpack is kind of crappy. He arguably looks nicer (I personally prefer the G1 version but that's just me), but he's about the same price (maybe a little less) and without Spike. I'd say it's down to personal preference though.

>>6446798
When I get more money, I need to buy this (with Alleria, so he can have his waifubot).

It seems some of the God Ginrai parts have trouble staying tabbed in sometimes but it looks good so oh well.

>>6446211
Underrated comment.

>>6446261
>That Drift isn't 3P.
Yes it is.
>It's officially licensed.
And it's also a third-party product.

How the fuck do people not understand this...?

>>6447609
Whilst I don't disagree, Ghost Starscream is awesome and so therefore you're all wrong and gay.

>>6448042
>he's. Small.
Well fuck, and here I thought Iron Factory was making a new Masterpiece Shockwave!

>>6448024
My wallet wants to thank you, anon.

With a knuckle sandwich.

>>6448924
>Pink Assassin/Arcee
>Transformation is practically non existent
Make sure you're transforming it with the weapons (especially the gun) stored so that it tabs everything together properly. Otherwise the transformation for the legs is kinda pointless.

But I assume you know all of this already.

>Good thing she came with a stand because it's hard as balls to get her to stand on her own.
It's tricky but once you get the hang of it, it can be done very easily.

Also, it's a bit tight so be careful doing this but you can store her weapons on the pegs of her wings. I had to ease the gun on very gradually. The swords were a bit easier to peg in but still tough. But now they go on easier. Not super-easy but firmly, and it makes for decent storage.

>>6449171
>toon color instaed of their usual gaudy and terrible color scheme
So what you're saying is that you prefer unpainted plastic to actual paint, right?

Nice taste, faggot.

>>6449423
I can't speak for personal contact but out of the ones I've watched, I've enjoyed watching Vangelus for God-only-knows how long now (I found his videos only about a year or two into him making them) and I feel like he's got a real style that's informative AND entertaining. Full disclosure though, Vangelus was one of my inspirations for getting into film (not the only one, but still), and years later, I'm now actually working for a film studio (and not as the coffee boy or runner. Usually).

Thew is fine. The guy seems nice.

The Goddamn Protoman just likes Hot Rod/Rodimus. I dunno, give him a Rodimus thing and he'll probably love you.

Emgo is autistic as fuck, and I haven't watched Chefatron at all so far.


>>6449443
>he's definitely the least trustworthy.
Really? What makes you say that? I've been watching him recently and he seems to be pretty fair with toys, albeit biased, but I figure you get a good look at a lot of things you might not otherwise see and can make a judgement based on that.

>>6448024
>blue panel on top
YOU HAD ONE JOB, PERFECT EFFECT.

>>6449533
I can't understand how paint can make something inherently better. Maketoys, Mastermind Creations, and other companies have made toys that look great with almost nothing but bare plastic. It's all down to the plastic mixing, sprue placement, and color distribution.

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Really temped to get Toyworld's Coolsbille over Downbeat. I'm getting tired of the hardcore animation accuracy; Coolsville has some issues but the slavish detailing in both modes just looks so cool. Any reason to avoid it?

>>6449171
>You're simply more forgiving with Grinder because it isn't an official figure.
I'm not "forgiving" anything though. I genuinely like Grinder's proportions. I said they look a little off in a lot of photos but they don't in hand. I only brought up them looking thin because that was the primary complaint I've seen about him when folks first saw him. I still don't exactly understand why you think Grinder looks like shit because you still won't articulate what exactly is wrong with him aside from vague statements like "completely fucked up" but I guess it doesn't matter as you've made up your mind on this so there's no further point in trying to convince you. If you really want Reximus, then I wish you luck and hope you find one at a good price.

>>6449547
>I can't understand how paint can make something inherently better
Because paint looks nicer than bare plastic, despite the memes people are trying to propagate. Paint allows for richer colors, nicer looking mattes, and vibrant gloss. Yes, plastic doesn't always have to look as cheap has Hasbro's retail-level shit, but a good paint job always looks better than even the nicest plastic.

When did this fandom get so fucking retarded?

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>>6449171
>toon color
Let me guess, you think that for a figure to "objectively look good" it has to emulate the cartoon in ever single way? I bet pic-related would be your ideal Grimlock.

You fucking pleb.

Just got my Bridge Watcher in the mail and he's great. No tightness issues or anything.

>>6449675
>When did this fandom get so fucking retarded?

When they started wanting entire figures dipped in paint like a candy apple, when they wanted rubber on figures, and when they wanted diecast, the ultimate shit tier metal.

My preferred figures are minimal paint (details to make things pop, and NEVER on friction areas), good quality properly colored, heavy plastic, and thats it. Diecast is a bane on everything, so is rubber.

>>6449806
Did you get raped by a diecast dildo as a child?

>>6449851

Yeah, and that dildo was called G1 Transformers, all of whom ended up floppy rusted pieces of shit if there was diecast in them. When will you mongoloid fucks just accept that diecast is a garbage metal that has little to no actual use except as a filler material and as a "premium" for unaware toy buys who wrongly equate "hurr weight=expensive"?

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>>6449869
Yes, because of course diecast toys haven't improved over 30 FUCKING YEARS

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>>6449034
>stop liking what I don't like

>>6449806
Diecast is actually extremely helpful oon specific pieces. Particularly feet. Out helps a lot when it comes to balance. As far as shit like metal chests and shit, no that is a bad idea because it only serves to fuck up stability and balance.

>>6449879
>Yes, because of course diecast toys haven't improved over 30 FUCKING YEARS
>people literally buying brand fucking new MPM Bumblebee's with misshapen diecast and fucking RUST
>RUST
>DAY ONE

You can't improve on shit. Literally trying to make a sow's ear a silk purse will not work, Anon.

>>6449209
IT's an interesting enough look for me

>>6448924
>Tyrants Wings Red/Starscream
>Great in both modes, love the tiny coronation gear
>Transformation is sketch because tolerances with the wing pack folding down
>Popped a panel off the back but got it back in

Holy hell, I thought it was just me. I can't get the flat part of the backpack/wings to peg in flat for jet mode to save my life.

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Jizai Toys Cab

>>6449997

Headmaster? Is it gonna be compatiable with TR?

>>6450005
Looks that way

It really boggles my mind how there's no 3rd Party Prime Arcee figs. Wake me up.

Is there any figs you guys wish got an upscale?

>>6450114
Prime is so forgettable its no surprise no 3Ps ever took to it; even animated can't get 3P traction, and BW 3Ps are mostly heavily reworked to appeal more to G1 fans. I doubt we'll ever see faithful Prime 3Ps because the market just isn't there.

>>6450119
I mean for all the shit it went through, it had some pretty rad designs, for Arcee and Starscream in particular. Now the RID figs look mostly like ass by comparison.

>>6449533
>>6449677
Learn to samefag better.
Also less is often more but you do sound like these retards painting flames over their car so I'm pretty sure the fandom got stupid the minute you joined.

>>6449566
Arms are too long, yes even when collapsed, it's not a matter of opinion, they are too long according to the source, according to the humanoid proportions most bots have, especially the rest of the team, and according to pretty much every single aesthetics convention ever. The waist is so thin it looks like someone slapped two figures from different sizes together. I also forgot to talk about how wrong the lower legs look like. Finally, no, there's no point trying to convince me of anything, I simply asked where to buy. It's amazing how hard it is to get a simple valid answer from people here.

>>6449897
>stop disliking what I like

>>6450114
>>6450124
I want an actually good-looking Prime Knockout. For one of the "sexiest bots ever designed" according to the design studio, he sure got a bland boring figure.

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>>6449879
>>6449899
My Susanoo sure didn't make a good case for metal. Those mushy details, mismatched colors, and poor tolerances brought the figure down. Doesn't help that typical plastic tightening methods won't work on diecast, meaning his floppy ankles would be a regular problem. What's worse is it's not even as bad as the giant loose metal butt flap.

Don't even get me started on PE Leo Prime's flakey tolerences due to diecast.

>>6450151

Diecast is a meme that needs to die. Unless its used as an internal anchor that isn't visible to the outside it needs to go. It's not suitable for joints or paint. This always happens.

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"If you buy 3P and KOs you're hurting the hobby"

What is your hobby? My hobby is having dumb little fiddly toys that I enjoy and appreciate, nut buying Transformers registered trademark Hasbro

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>Visualizers out of Hong Kong
>Black Quakeblast out of China

I just have to hold back on how much I refresh my USPS page.

>>6450219
Literally just a little bit more paint and this guy would look amazing.

>>6450204
muh heft tho

>>6449561
Wonky elboys and unforgivable HOLLOW WRISTS. On a toy this size, it was too hard to put some flaps to cover them?

As for Downbeat, his vehicle mode is trash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDEihDMkDbw

Is it as bad as people were fearing it would be? Or did it pull out some redemption?

https://www.tf-direct.com/weijiang-robot-force-mw-001-rendsora-oversized-voyager-class-the-last-knight-megatron-_p1818.html

I heard Weijiang's TLK Megatron was getting a third batch that's even more movie accurate. What's the ETA on that?

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Turd Patty Big Convoy when?

>>6450234
Maybe I've just been lucky, but the last three or four packages I've bought from china came within a week and a half. Godspeed.

>>6450337
>As for Downbeat, his vehicle mode is trash.
I'm not seeing it m8, looks like jazz to me.

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Smol shockwave is best shockwave.

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>>6450742

>>6450682
China package just inbounded to San Francisco today, delivery estimate is the 1st. Also, both these packages gave shipping notification the same night.

>>6450742
Till all eat bread.

>>6450769
Honestly, one of the biggest things that bugs me about him is that splayed hand. It's just so flat, I'd have preferred something with some more vertical spread, it feels too close to the saluting hand as is.

I guess that's a pretty good "worst thing" to have though, he's excellent aside from that. I'm worried that he's going to nudge me into getting their bruticus just so I have something to do with his altmode.

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>>6450128
I'm sorry you have horrible taste anon. Your best bet is ebay.

>>6450944
You like Grinder, your opinion is forever worthless.

>>6450769
>>6446395
I'm surprised and a little disappointed he didn't come with a 5mm version of himself in gun-mode.

>>6449536
You can't trust him anymore because he even said himself that he can't afford shit anymore and relies on test copies and doesn't want to risk not getting shit at all He even said that he's going to look at the positives from now on thanks to his condition, so you pretty much can't expect actual honest reviews unless it's a cheap knock off
Why else does he only unbox shit from sirtoys?

>>6450128
>more than one person is disagreeing with me, so it must just be a samefag
Whatever helps you sleep at night. Go back to /tfg/ where there are more hasbrocucks thar drink the kool-aid and think paint is the devil.

loodshit robutts when?

>>6450742
>>6450769
i need that smol gun megatron
what does it come with?

>>6451654
https://tfsource.com/ironfactory/IF-EX20-wing-of-tyrant/

>venta shopping
You said it, CAPTCHA...

>>6450266
This, with wrist swivels.

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Second part of the moon review for PE's Prime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcNOGAc63_U

So you can fit the stock head in the vehicle mode if you turn it sideways. Sadly, there's not enough clearance to turn it without bending the platform it's on. Also those tabs for the Ginrai armor look terrifyingly thin.

>>6452443
Those tabs had me kind of worried from the start, but they don't really get any weight put on them or anything, at most they just align Godbomber in place.

>>6449997
Jizai is a god.

I guess we'll see this at Wonderfest at some point, or someone will knock off his designs, or maybe he'll be secretly contracted for it like what supposedly happen with the Function-X line.

Regardless, I want that Cab.

>>6450005
No idea but remember that Jizai gets one-day licenses from Takara for Wonderfest garage kits so it's unlikely he'll release this himself as an unofficial third-party product cast from a steel mould.

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>>6450128
Learn to not be such a brainless cuck.

>>6450204
Joints like FT Phoenix and MP Shockwave are perfect uses of die cast, if you ask me. That doesn't include Shockwave's feet, of course, which I don't like (and I know many others don't), though I appreciate that most of the soles are plastic rather than all diecast like with Soundwave (that fucking paint-chipping on Soundwave is legitimately sad).

>>6450219
If you don't ever buy official merchandise, you're not supporting a brand that, should it not get enough support long-term, could die out. Then eventually, we run out of source material to pull from. And granted, that'll take a while, but still, if there is a shrinking audience, third parties are going to go away.

I'm not against buying third-party products or even, in some cases at least, KOs, but at least buy an official toy every now and then to still support the brand.

>>6450742
The only thing I wish they did differently is the hands - I wish they had given us some solid purple hands rather than them ALL being translucent. Basically, like the official one did (except without the extra transparent ones being for the side that doesn't have the fucking light in it).

But it's a minor nitpick because otherwise, he looks amazing and I want him.

Unfortunately, I'm poor so I can only buy so much right now.

>>6451334
Fair enough I guess. I'm not exactly sure what his condition is but it seems to be something to do with one of his legs that restricts him to a wheelchair but he still seems to be able to stand...? I'm not sure.

But yeah, okay, those are fair points, though to be honest, I think his biggest draw are the KOs since he is one of the few that reviews so many of them.

You're right about SirToys though. I love how he's always unboxing stuff from them and yet he'll have entire comments sections of "fuck SirToys, these guys are scammers and dickheads" etc.

>>6452443
Can't say I'm super-surprised, but it's disappointing. Guess I'm gonna wait for a Masterpiece one to happen. They'll do one eventually. Probably.

inb4 someone bitches about the price because they're American and have to ship Japanese toys to America from Japan thus increasing the cost and negating their argument.

>>6452443
I still hate that blue piece on top of the cab, and Ginrai sticks out way too far.

I dunno, it was a good effort on Perfect Effect's part but I'm not convinced that they quite pulled it off.

I'd love the FansHobby one if they just fixed the damn trailer and how the legs stick up in God Ginrai mode.

>>6452443
so does the guy like it?

>>6452743
I don't speak enough Japanese to know.

He seems to though? I dunno. He's boring to listen to. He talks for AGES.

>>6452443
I love how it doesn't come with the new God Ginrai head yet has a space for it inside the chest.

Fuck off, Perfect Effect.

>>6452833
It's pretty scummy, yeah, especialyl considering you couldn't even do anything with the Powermaster the first kit comes with without the new chestpiece in this kit.

>>6452845
Definitely. But you can't complain because the third-party fanboys will dogpile you. Which is ridiculous, because I'd actually buy this if I didn't have to buy at least two of the three fucking sets that are all quite expensive all-up.

I really don't like how Ginrai attaches either but that's just me. I think he sticks out far too much in robot mode, and I honestly think it would have been better if they went for the engineering of the original toy but with more articulation, because that thing was a brick but a damn good brick.

How reliable/fast is Registered Air Mail Small Packet? RK is the only place that has a purple mixing barrel for Constructor but, no way am I paying almost $30 just to ship the damn thing via the other methods. There's some obvious price gouging going on there with shipping.

Been thinking about picking up Rioter Despotron as my first third party figure. Any other recommendations or must haves?

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>>6453012
What's you flavor?

Rioter Despotron is pretty fantastic overall and you owe it to yourself to pick up a matching Prime. Striker Manus gives you the classic Prime color scheme on a super articulated bot while Striker Noir gives the same mold in a Nemesis Prime color scheme but with a fuckton of extra accessories and weapons.

Like IDW designs? Mastermind Creations' Reformatted line has your back at voyager scale.

Like Legends scale? Iron Factory all the way.

Masterpiece scale? Holy shit balls you have options.

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>>6453012
I think this guy is going to be one of the best toys of the year, pick him up while you can

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>>6452524
>Paying to upgrade walmart toys
>Paying a shit ton of money to import upgrades on import walmart toys
>Paying MP/3P money in total for something that looks like upgraded walmart shit

Literally just be patient and wait for an actual PMOP/3P built from the ground up instead of strapping a bunch of shit to a retail toy.

>>6453040
Jesus christ he's huge

>>6449806
>minimal paint
That's so stupid though. Older MPs like Smokescreen in particular have full-body paint jobs for their alt modes, and they look fucking gorgeous because of it, and they don't suffer from any scratching.

I will never understand the demonization of paint. It just has to be done properly.

>>6451344
>>6452495
Learn to samefag better. Again.

>>6453028
I'm not an MP fag but I want this guy so much. Cybertron Starscream was always biiiiig so he'd work for a CHUG display. Unfortunately I'm pretty much out of money and space at the moment.

>>6453025
I was looking at FansHobby Arhcenemy, thought he would compliment my RiD Scourge really well. Mastermind Tarn looks really cool.

What's Perfect Effect all about? That Leonidas figure looks amazing

>>6453130
The original release of Leonidas was plagued with issues.

Haven't heard if the new one has fixed anything yet

Perfect Effect mostly does upgrade kits for official figures.

>>6453063
>I will never understand the demonization of paint. It just has to be done properly.

It's rarely done properly, at all.

And on a more subjective note, I think plastic looks better than something dipped in paint. Look at MMC's Overlord, or their Predaking. Fucking gorgeous figures, vibrant colors, and they're not dipped in head to toe with paint. Look at TFC's Seacon's, they look amazing, minimal paint at best. MP-10, once again, amazing and minimal paint. Etc.

>>6453063
Its strange when we had Classics/Universe, everyone was saying Takara's Henkei releases were better because they painted figures where as Hasbro had just used coloured plastic.

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Anyone know when the next ebay $15-off-$75 coupon is likely? I wanna pick this guy up and avoid paying full price if possible.

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>>6453191
I think that came mostly from Armada vs Micron Legend where Hasbro didn't fully paint the faction insignias and early Alternators vs Binaltech where...just look at this pic. To hasbro's credit, later Alternators like Mazda Jazz and Jeep Hound were able to replicate their source material's finish in bare plastic more accurately.

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>>6453166
>It's rarely done properly, at all.
Most MPs, especially the autobot cars. All the datsuns and lambos. Wheeljack only has it for his racing stripes, but it looks great. Tracks is glorious with his metallic blue. MP Ironhide in particular has some amazingly vibrant paint, and a lot of friction, but no scratching. Shame the same can't be said for Ratchet, but that does prove that the particular application and quality of the paint has a lot to do with whether or not it scratches. MP Artfire is pretty much painted from head to toe and looks gorgeous for it, and I've transformed him a hundred times with nary a scratch. Oh, and fucking MP Nemesis Prime's gloss-black paint job is pure sex, he wouldn't be the same without it. And quite honestly, Takara's Legends line. The paint on them is so fucking durable. There are parts on LG Brainstorm that I've TRIED to scratch just for shits, and can't.
> MP-10, once again, amazing and minimal paint
The Hasbro version. And honestly it looks like shit compared to the Takara version, which IS mostly painted. It's got red paint over red plastic on most outward-facing surfaces. I got the Hasbro version from TRU many a year ago, and always thought it looked cheap and out-of-place next to my other MPs, which were all imported and all had full-body paint jobs. (Prowl, Sideswipe, etc.) Then I picked up a Takara re-issue with some spare cash and it was a world of difference.

Paint is great, and people never used to have an issue with it, and typically wanted to have more of it on their figures. I find it's only been the past year or two, when MP Ratchet started scratching itself to shit, and then later, of course, MP Megatron with it's clusterfuck transformation, and now suddenly people are clamoring for paint to be banned from every figure, when in the past, nobody had an issue with extensive paint jobs. Nobody looked at MP Prowl and said "Reeeee! It's DIPPED IN PAINT! It's SHIT!"

>>6453201
I've read September.

>>6453230
It looks great because that's how they're supposed to look. Dinobots aren't supposed to be silver. Get over it.

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>>6453307
>It looks great because that's how they're supposed to look
>I am incapable of making aesthetic judgement on my own, and only think things look good when they're accurate
God, fuck off.

Also, Dinobots look better in silver. Fuck accuracy. Look at how much more the detail pops on pic related. Also, their color has nothing to do with whether or not they're painted. Almost every Grimlock is cast in this awful, cheap, gray, swirly plastic that is painful to look at. They should either use higher-quality shit (like the gray plastic on FH Gunfighter, which is pretty smooth looking) or fucking paint it. Most of the Dinobots have such simple transformations that they would make pretty decent candidates for an all-over paint job.

And since you're an accuracy-fag, take a look here >>6450944, the shading on Grimlock's gray parts clearly indicates a kind of metallic sheen, so a semi-gloss gray paint job on a Grimlock would be both accurate AND look better than the milky, flat, garbage plastic he's usually cast in.

>>6453304
Shit, really? I thought it was like once a month.

>>6453332
You have shit taste and you're an idiot. End of the discussion.

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>>6453348
Kek.

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>>6453332
>not wanting toy and show accurate grey

>>6452831
>He's boring to listen to. He talks for AGES.
This seems to be a problem with a lot of Japanese reviewers from what I've seen. I don't speak Japanese either so I don't know exactly what they're saying but they have a bad habit of just focusing on one particular thing for fucking ever and showing it off 20 different ways before moving on to something else. Perfect example is when he's covering how the original Titan Master port and helmet integrate with the figure. He could just describe it while he shows off what it looks like and how it works but instead he just holds the figure there, looking at the piece in question, talking and talking and talking and talking before finally actually putting the part onto the new figure. Then he does the same shit as he shows off what it looks like and the limitations of it, just has the camera pointed at the part and talks forever, then he shows it off 20 times and just keeps talking about it.

How hard is it to just say "yeah, you can take the original HasTak head and stick it on here like this. It works but it limits the turning radius thanks to these hinges and it needs to be flexed to transform it like so..", all while showing this as he describes it.

Wotafa does this kinda shit to. He's not AS bad about it and he's at least energetic when he speaks so it's less of a chore to sit through but he still does it and it makes the reviews drag longer than they need to.

I get that part of the problem is I don't know Japanese so that adds to the frustration of having to sit through it or try to skip around but it still seems like poor form to do that in the first place and I'd have just as little tolerance for it if an English speaking reviewer did the same thing.

>>6453230
>> MP-10, once again, amazing and minimal paint
>The Hasbro version. And honestly it looks like shit compared to the Takara version, which IS mostly painted. It's got red paint over red plastic on most outward-facing surfaces. I got the Hasbro version from TRU many a year ago, and always thought it looked cheap and out-of-place next to my other MPs, which were all imported and all had full-body paint jobs. (Prowl, Sideswipe, etc.) Then I picked up a Takara re-issue with some spare cash and it was a world of difference.
Full body paint should only be used if you're going for a color that can't be pulled off with the base plastic, like if you need a certain part to be full metallic colored. Just painting a red plastic piece red again adds fucking nothing and adds to the risk of paint scratching with no real benefit, since the plastic underneath is still going to look noticeably different than the paint. Paint should primarily be used for picking out details or if you need something to be metallic and since you're compairing the supposed night and day difference between Hasbro MP10 and Takara MP10, Takara doesn't pick out any more details than the Hasbro version does. Neither one paints all of the tech detailing on the blue plastic leg flaps that cover the wheels in bot mode. Neither one paints the visible pistons on the backs of the legs or bothered to paint the thighs silver. THOSE are the types of things that matter in the paintwork of a figure.

I think paint is great to have on a figure just as much as the next guy but it's not the amount of paint that makes the difference, it's what you use it for. Just coating the figure in paint for the sake of coating it in paint when the base plastic color already gets the job done is not only redundant, but it's risky and just serves to drive the price up with little benefit.

>>6453012
Go with Striker Noir! Got him a couple months ago, and I still changes his poses every couple days then switch to murder truck mode every other few days. fucking love it. Now I need Rioter Despotron...

>>6453332
>Also, Dinobots look better in silver. Fuck accuracy.
Sort of agree. I'd rather see them in metallic gray than flat but I think full on silver is too bright unless you're going for the full comic style team (which while I love the gaudy comic version of FT Grinder, it still bothers me that they chose black plastic over the dark blue like literally every other comic representation of Grimlock used). The point is that the Dinobots need to at least have a darker gray on them to help offset the bright chrome. I too would have preferred it to at least be metallic but I still prefer what we got to full on bright as fuck silver

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I love his cab feet.

>>6453674
Jesus he looks so good just on his own

>>6453677
Skullface's review showed some tab problems on the legs, they look and sound horrifying

>>6453674
Can his back missile pods, rest on his shoulders next to his head? anyone know?

>>6453028
what's the best 3p star scream?

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>>6453711
>KFC attempting transforming bayverse designs

l m a o t b h f a m s m d h

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>>6453705

Of what is out, Planet X's FOC starscream or any of the three legends ones (IF did IDW, DX9 made G1, Shapeshift did FOC) MMC's Hearts of Steel ain't bad either, just older and more fragile.

Of what is coming? Probably the Galaxy Screamer you're looking at. The test shots look impeccable.

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>>6453693
>showed some tab problems on the legs, they look and sound horrifying
I haven't had any issues. Im not a fan of skull face. The shit he complains about is so petty sometimes.

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>>6453744
Planet X's is expensive, but I love him so much.

>>6453764
Skywarp and Thundercracker are supposed to cost less

>>6453687
He really does. I've always loved Motermaster's look so I may honestly pick him up as a standalone.

>>6453764
Planet X Jazz when ?

New thread

>>6453805
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>>6453477
>thinking that accuracy to a shitty, 30-year-old cartoon and toyline is somehow objectively good
I was hoping to leave this stupid mentality behind in the /tfg/ threads. Blinglock is based as fuck. Can't wait for him next month. First big 3P purchase and my first Grimlock. I'm psyched.

>>6453040
I don't think any of the current third-party offerings look good at all though, and I'm not in the US so Japanese figures are cheaper for me to import than buying the Hasbro versions. So, you know, deal with it...?

>>6453028
I would... if I wasn't broke. Someone buy me one and I'll suck your dick (disclaimer: no homo; probably won't actually suck your dick).

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>>6453121
Give it up you stupid fucking cuck. No one likes you.

>>6453063
Yeah but they didn't use paint on EVERYTHING and not on joints and such.

Even then, some of my older MPs have minor paint chips and I've been very careful with them.

As much as I love all the newer Masterpieces too, the chipping is a fucking disaster. Inferno and Grapple are a mess, Ratchet is white plastic painted white and I've barely touched mine but it has huge chips all over it already (and both my Ratchet and Inferno had paint sticking out of the box)...

Look at MP Star Saber - minimal paint but he's still gorgeous and they did a damn good job with him (except for the hands and the elbows, but anyway).

>>6453166
Pretty much just this. Dunno why I wasted my time but yeah. The paint on the current MPs IS very pretty... until it chips off.

>>6453332
I agree. Accuracy-fags are fucking whiney as shit, and yet most of them get butthurt over TakaraTomy's hardcore accuracy thing. They're like "NO, I WANT IT TO BE SHOW-ACCURATE BUT WITH MORE DETAIL!" or some fucking nonsense. Like, make up your goddamn mind, you double-standard fuckheads.

But I also agree with >>6453653 that I prefer more of metallic grey than straight-up silver. Still, fuck that dull, unpainted plastic.

>>6453201
>>6453304
What's the best place to keep in the loop (other than this thread)? I want to put some money aside in advance this time and not have the flash sale drop on a day I have no fucking money like last time.

>>6453598
I know some Japanese but I can listen to someone like Wotafa and even understand a decent amount of what he's saying (even when I don't understand the actual words, because he's fairly good with physical communication too) whereas some of the others just bore me and I stop paying attention.

But yeah, I agree with you overall, anon.

And there ARE English-speaking reviewers who do it too. I tried to watch a Chefatron review for the first time yesterday and I just gave up halfway through because he rambled and talked about pointless shit for way too long.

There are others like him too.

>>6453230
>MP Ironhide in particular has some amazingly vibrant paint, and a lot of friction, but no scratching.
Maybe not yours but other people have had problems with Ironhide. The chipping on mine is minor at best.
Ratchet's a disaster though. And he's white underneath. And he has red plastic parts but they used white plastic for the waist and then painted it red. Someone give TakaraTomy a fucking medal for that genius idea. And this is coming from someone who loves the official MPs through and through.
>MP Artfire is pretty much painted from head to toe and looks gorgeous for it, and I've transformed him a hundred times with nary a scratch.
I don't have Artfire but I have Inferno and Grapple and I frankly don't believe you. Artfire and Grapple had paint chips new out of the box, let alone paint sticking and more paint chips over time from only minimal transformations.

Inferno's head gun thing scratches the paint for one of two reasons:
The pin is pushed too far in which scratches the paint.
If it wasn't painted, you'd have a layer of thickness less which likely would be enough to stop the pin scratching the figure.
I'm not sure if Artfire still has this problem but Inferno certainly does and unless you know how to fix this when you first transform it (which isn't super-easy - you'd need to heat up the pin and gently push it out a bit with a flat blade, praying you don't melt something in the process with the heat you'll need), you WILL scratch Inferno.
>Paint is great, and people never used to have an issue with it... Nobody looked at MP Prowl and said "Reeeee! It's DIPPED IN PAINT! It's SHIT!"
Except Prowl doesn't have paint all over the joints and all the inner workings like Inferno/Grapple/Ironhide/Ratchet do. My Datsuns actually DO have some paint chipping (mainly Prowl and Smokescreen, not Bluestreak) and I've carefully touched Smokescreen.
The problem is that they're putting paint on almost every part of a figure at this point.

>>6453626
This.