Transformers General

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Previous bread >>6353836

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This guy appeared in Cinemacon.

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Nitro confirmed to be able to hold Headmasters.

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>>6355449

>>6355444
For those who haven't heard, Dragonstorm is actually a two-bot combiner. He's made up of Dragonicus ( >>6355447 ) and Stormreign ( >>6355448 ).

>>6355449
Nitro has a Titan Master-compatible cockpit, as well as a compatible neck port, but his actual head does not transform. Presumably he can transform without removing it.

>>6355454
Cogman is a TR-compatible Headmaster, with a transforming head and a two-seater car mode (right-hand drive).

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AHAHHAHAHAHA no.

>>6355457
>as well as a compatible neck port, but his actual head does not transform.

Looks like we know whose head gets ripped off.

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Well at least the Lambo looks nice, but I've seen it too much in other movies. I've grown tired of the look.

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>>6355461
Hot Rod is an extensive retool of AOE Lockdown. He's exclusive to Wal-Mart in the US.

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Bane?

>>6355462
Actually it's because he is a needle nose pretool

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Love the new head though

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Oh and HD Infernocus.

>>6355471
I need to see a better shot of it.

>>6355469
It's because there's a scene in which Cogman takes down a Con and takes over their body with his head. It was stated to be in the twenty minute fan preview.

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>>6355464
Come to think of it, Wal-Mart seems to have the exclusive rights to all of TLK Hot Rod's toys.
>Legion single Hot Rod
>Legion Bee & Hot Rod 2-pack
>1-Step Turbo Changer Bee & Rod 2-pack
>Flip & Change 2-pack featuring Autobot Bumblebee and Autobot Hot Rod

>>6355476
What if you live in a country without Wallmart?

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>>6355465
>>6355471
Megatron and Steelbane are TRU Exclusives, while Nitro and Cogman are mass release. Here's a in-package picture of what seems to be the finalized Skullitron figure.

>>6355474
Shame, would've preferred it to be the Dread/Berserker.

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Also, here's one figure from Target's own exclusive line. His translucent red accessories are meant to reveal hidden information, old school tech spec style.

>>6355479
The design team representatives have stated that Hasbro offered all of the exclusive toys to their international partners. We'll just have to see if TRU Philippines picks up the WalMart toys, or if Australian department gets bloodbath Optimus.

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>>6355483
*Australian department stores

>>6355484
I really don't like those red wheels. They looks so out of place.

>>6355484
''Use sword and shield to reveal.''
Reveal what? What's behind the faces of the people he kills?

>>6355483
I wonder if all of the Target figures will get unwieldy trans-red weaponry. I'm kinda excited.

>>6355486
The dot-patterns on the corner of the boxes. see >>6355483

>>6355486
Reveal what's under Fallen's face

>>6355490
You fall, I rise

>>6355489
Oh, that makes sense.

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>>6355489
They're also all over Optimus himself. I assume that all the Target figures will have deco like his, similar to the Mission to Cybertron gimmick of decodable cyberglyphs.

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>I'm a flying dragon aeroplane and I dgaf
So yeah, I'm not liking the colors. The bright red plastic and dull gold paint drowns out all the details.

Im sorry for being a faggot, but do you guys like the movie designs? Do you guys by a lot of the movie figures?

The movies are pretty polarizing so im interested

>>6355495
So he's an optimus prime with blood splatters all over and wheels gone red from all the humans rolled over?

>>6355443
It's 2 Hours and 28 minutes. Confirmed.

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>>6355495

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>>6355498
His transformation should be quite obvious from the underside. It's pretty basic like most RID jetformers and everything tabs in well. As you can see, he's missing 3mm ports for stands in both modes.

Hasbro sure got a steal on gray plastic for this movie line didn't they?

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>>6355500
I like them. Most of them anyway. The more "scrapyard pile"-looking designs from the earlier films really do it for me, while the "humanoids with metal plating" look from AOE turns me off somewhat. TLK's designs redeem themselves with the knight theme.

Half of my collection is movie stuff. A lot of them are fun toys, and there were a lot of designs from 2007-2011 that were only made for the toys, instead of the movies. Those are among the best of their lines.

>>6355504
>>6355498

Looks neat.

>>6355504
>that screaming in pain face

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>>6355504
The flame effects use a unique square peg to plug into the feet and dragon mouth. The dragon heads have 5mm weapon ports on the lower jaw.

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>>6355500
I do, in my own way.

Couple of them are ugly but there's just a charm to it, as to why they're successful despite the insecticonish designs.

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>>6355510
>Scream chest vs sad crotch
Which version of the dragon arms do you prefer?

>>6355516
He looks like TR Twinferno's teenage son.

Please tell me you're getting Rescue Bots Twinferno.

>>6355507
>>6355512
Thats interesting. I guess bayformers aren't that hated after all.

After power rangers going through something similar I wanted the perspective of a toyline that went through the summer blockbuster phase

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The dragon jaws open *just* wide enough to hold these

>>6355519
I dunno, I'm not sold on the Rescue bots one and it's Heatwave (again)

>>6355460
Goddammit. Here I was hoping to avoid buying any movie figures.

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>>6355523
It helps that the bayformer toys don't all look like literal poop.

>>6355523
The difference is that Bayformers 1 released at the right year when capeshit wasn't what's hogging the cinemas of recent scale, and that Bayformers never had any competition in the "robots fistfucking each other" genre. Despite mediocre-abysmal ratings, it still sold because it was successful in its revival of interest. Power Rangers released far too late with worse marketing.

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>>6355461
Being a Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime fan is suffering.

>power of the prime will give a non MP star saber and victory leo

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>>6355525
Oh I didn't realize. Dang.

>>6355503
>Movie Accurate

Holy shit, does Prime actually roll through a pool of blood in this movie??

>>6355532
>Hated in G1
>Looks retarded in Bayformers
>Stuck in the least-quality series as of recent in IDW

I swear if they make Hot Rod the broken mirror that kills Hound...

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>>6355500
I think that all the designs look like shit in the movie. I can never tell what any Transformer is doing most of the time because they're totally incoherent messes of dark scrap metal. The post AOE designs might be even worse bexause they've totally tossed out any pretense of being robots formed from car bits and are now just metal shapeshifters. What makes Transformers Iconic to me is being able to see how they formed out of they're altmodes. First Movie Optimus at least had window boobs, hanging leg wheels, and smokestacks. The new Knight look is just a jagged eyesore that was colored by a puddle with oil in it.

As for the toys, I think the need to appeal to children really saves them. Steel Bane, Dragon Storm, Hound, Scorn, Squeaks, Leader Megatron, and most of the other new reveals have a cool Knight aesthetic that allows for more flat cohesive body shapes. The Optimi are still ugly shellformers, Hot Rod has the worst goddamn face ever, and half of the AoE dinobots are lanky curling-armed fucks, but that just means more money for Generations/3p that look nicer.

>>6355529
you know that doesn't count

>>6355531
I agree,but people are still buying the latest mr bay's wild ride figures after the robot fistfucking each other genre became established.

I was going purely off of ranger/transformers designs though because I think thats what alienates both communities the most

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>>6355540
top kek

His vehicle mode was only seen twice in the 6 months of shooting, neither shoots had him rolling with the Autobots or rolling over humans.

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>>6355525
He's really close to Ptero red, just with the addition of glitter in the plastic like most RID toys.

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>>6355545
After ten years, the Bayformer aesthetic has just become accepted as another facet of Transformers. Sure there are still people who dislike it, but they know it'll stay where it is for a long time.

The design style has been reincorporated into other versions of the franchise too. The Prime TV series mixed in a bit of Bayformers and a bit of Animated (the TV show from 2007-2010).

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>>6355544
I disagree with that Optimus part. His AoE design is by far aesthetically pleasing as a design, but the fact that it TRANSFORMS into an earth vehicle makes it one of the worst designs to be a Transformer. If it were his Cybertronian mode, then sure I wouldn't mind.

Other than that, needs more color is definitely a consensus within the Bayformers following.

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>>6355454
Hang on, is that a Chromedome retool?

>>6355498
Yeah, they red really does ruin what would otherwise be an awesome figure.

>>6355495
Instead of bloodbath Prime we should call him RAINING BLOOD PRIME

>>6355558
>FROM THE FACTORY THAT BROUGHT YOU MURDERBEE...

>>6355450
Is this a CW Silverbolt re-mold?

>>6355532
>Didgeridoo.
>It's an actual word.

>>6355550
At least not fully. I rmemeber the dark age of IDW's new "style" that went on for 6 months.

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https://youtu.be/2nzYzkrDbKk
So excited.

Also TLK Megs video by Wotafa
https://youtu.be/7ok1MqJx1ik

>>6355562
Sexy

>>6355554
Yeah Cogman is the Deadend/Chromedome mold and Nitro is the pretool for TR Needlenose

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>>6355476

Man I really like his Legion Class figure. GOt one from Robotkingdom on the way (along with some 3rd party pocket goodness). While his two pack version could make for a nice RiD Spychanger Hot Shot.

Pic unrelated but I got these two Legion class figures, Crowbar (my fav mold of this size) from the DOtM Giftset box and the Takara RiD/Adventure Strongarm from a 4pack.

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>>6355561
It didn't help that Don's style was aping the movies without an apparent understanding of HOW to make those incredibly jointed faces expressive.

I also recall one critique that pointed out the coloring just makes everything flat when there needed to be a lot more depth in the shading.

>>6355454
I love his little sword.

>>6355498
What a fucking shame. I was totally into this guy when his early renders showed him with a burgundy color. Now he's an easy pass. Bummer, I was hoping to get another claw-handed RiD bot to battle with Bisk.

New poster:
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/gsnas1x5moi-jpg.27736797/

>>6355500
I usually don't like them. Especially the non-humanoid ones.

Usually the best ones are the toy-only designs because they don't look completely like bayformers (terradive, seaspray)

New Poster 2:
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/yxdqasfw1wc-jpg.27736798/

What happened to Bee's mouth?

>>6355572
>pretool for TR Needlenose

Personal speculation or has he been in recent leaks?

>>6355586
It gets fixed. It's noticeable in the International Trailer too at the end of his combiner scene.

>>6355554
>>6355572
>see robot with similar transformation to another, despite every detail and molding being completely different
>"is that a retool!?!?"
The fuck are you people smoking, because I want some.

New Quintessa TV spot aka Fifty Shades of Prime
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=2nzYzkrDbKk

>>6355591
Cool. Did you guys see that giant statue,Earth and something moving in the Quintessa scenes?
Anyway,wild speculation:
What of Steelbane and Skullitron were Optimus and Megatron in the past?

>>6355594
Nah, one of the knights that combines into Dragonstorm is in present day and was awakened by the human girl.

>>6355500
I really liked the designs in the first movie. They were a neat blend of "weird alien robot" and "conventional earth vehicle". I'm not as much of a fan of the more humanized designs that started happening after the first movie though, like gangster thugs with gold teeth, fat Nascar rednecks, samurai stereotypes etc.

I'm fine with beards on robots in the cartoons, but they look retarded on screen.

>>6355598
That knight is Stormreign not Steelbane.
Steelbane is the first knight. I think I'm wrong.

>>6355602
Well they're wires on Hound so I guess I can accept that.

>>6355588
The ApeFace and Snapdragon Voyagers turned out to be bunk so with the Appearence of TLK figures it's now switched to needlenose and Spinisters appearing in the last wave in some form. Snapdragon is going to be a head in one of the box sets not a full figures.

>>6355560
Yes you can see how the bot folds underneath it's definitely silverbolt. They got their money outta that mold didn't they

>>6355554
>>6355572
>is that a Chromedome retool
What the fuck do you people think a "retool" is? Every single part of that figure is nothing like Chromedome.

>>6355661
its a headmaster! and a car! then its chromedome!

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I am really wanting to get this. Though I know I'll be picking up the dotm and tlk remolds.

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>>6355661
Transfags are not bright, even among manchildren.

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Holy shit.

>>6355674
that just straight A cool. i might just get the leader for this and waist swivel

>>6355663
Name any other Titan's return deluxe car that isn't Chromedome.

That's right you can't.

>>6355674
>Megs gets that before any LC Prime

So what are they chances that all this cool shit in the TLK line will never hit stores like DOTM

>>6355680
Breakaway. ha im right you're wrong, go back to allspark you queer

>>6355683
RotF Buster Prime did it years ago.

>>6355692
I mean a full faceplate gimmick. AoE's Buster Prime equivalent had that but it was a manual flip.

>>6355691
Breakway is Chromedome but with a Job and Family.

I'm surprised TLK isn't reusing the Prime Dragons, given that they're going to reuse the combiner. I'd really love a new usage of the Ripclaw mold especially, and feel like a few tweaks of the mold would make Skystalker a winner. Lazerback and Grimwing would be nice, but one's a wingless dragon, the other's a boring transformation.

>>6355516
>PFFT MOVE OVER DAD I'M IN CHARGE NOW

>>6355651
>The Apeface and Snapdragon Voyagers turned out to be bunk
Where did you hear this from? They've still not announced anything about wave 6.

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>>6355581

The actual problem was the art was fucking ugly. Not from a technical standpoint, but just from an aesthetic one. Everyone looked like shit. It was easily the worst art IDW has ever had, which is a shame, because the artist is pretty good, he just chose an abysmal way to draw everything. It's painful getting to this part of my IDW collections because every page is like throwing acid in my eyes.

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So what wave are we on in TR? 4 or 5? Since didn't wave 4 just come out? But people are getting Seaspray's already. Is the distribution just completely fucked for 4 and 5 or something?

>>6355752
4. But people have been finding the wave 5 legends and voyagers here and there.

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>>6355754

So it sounds like the distribution between the two waves is a bit mashed together then? Shit, this is annoying. I finally found a Brawn off Amazon for just $10, at least.

>>6355590
>>6355661
>>6355663
Sorry, borrowed engineering I should say.

>>6355728
I unironically liked those designs.

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>>6355769

Well, thats fine. You can like what you like, man. I mean, I love the old G1 box art, and no one is ever gonna call that "good" art with the incredibly deformed everything.

>>6355773
I actually love the G1 box art as well. They have a charm to them. The Don Figueroa designs are a nice balance of the movie "alien" look and strong G1-esque silhouettes.

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>>6355773
Hey at least it was toy accurate.
Thank god Hasbro didn't go full G1 toy accuracy for TR.

>>6355447
Looks pretty good, although maybe a bit too squat like Barricade.
>>6355448
I may pass on this fella, head mold is great, but below the waist it looks pretty mediocre, also seems a bit bland.
>>6355449
This guy looks fucking fantastic, need. Nothing more to say.
>>6355454
Charming looking bot but I may have to pass on him. Vehicle mode looks a bit too clean and it clashes with the weathered look of the bot mode.
>>6355461
Easy pass, great vehicle mode though.>>6355465
Will have to wait for better images, but out of all the knights I'll probably get him, has a pretty menacing look. What's his alt mode?>>6355471
I'm a big fan of this mold so I might have to snag him, looks good.>>6355472
If they didn't use the same legion class limbs we've been seeing for years this guy could been great. Everything aside from those limbs looks good.

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>>6355789
Cogman

Transforms into an Aston Martin DB-11 vehicle
Cogman is a Headmaster, he has a “Titan Master” style head
Vehicle mode seats two Titan Masters
Nitro

Using files from the films to make the figures more accurate to the movie
You can remove his head and Cogman’s head can take over the body. Nitro's head does not transform.
Nitro’s cockpit in vehicle mode accommodates a Titan Master.
Vehicle mode is a military jet of Hasbro's design. John Warden worked on G.I. Joe for years so that influenced his designs.

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>>6355780
below the waist you look pretty mediocre.

>>6355789
>>6355792
>Wanted to get both of these, and now they're even better.

>>6355767
Still not even close. The hood ends up on the back and the doors end up on his forearms. If that's "borrowed engineering" then more than half of all carformers have "borrowed engineering"

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>>6355808

Thats not what she said.

New TV spot with new scenes of Barricade:


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5yNQjldJ04&feature=youtu.be

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Posting some more Artfire love, since he seems to be getting overshadowed because of all the TLK news and the fact that he wasn't in the cartoon. Grapple was my first purchase of this mold, so I was intrigued to learn how different he actually was. The entire waist and torso fits together differently to accommodate the boom vs. the ladder. Grapple ends up being a bit less graceful as a result, but they're both awesome. The levels of engineering on display in this mold and Grapple are quite impressive.

And for all the people who want to know, his details are tampographs and not stickers. Also, little Nightstick is compatible with pretty much every other MP hand/port.

>>6355786
She is hot. Also,giant statue?

>>6355831
So he won't die...

>>6355500
I think rotf figures were the height of tf engineering. But I hate the films and haven't touched any movie figures since rotf, this new batch look retarded as well. In fact I haven't bought a single mainline tf that wasn't a masterpiece since rhinox.

>>6355831
I want a Clobber now.

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>>6355500
I enjoy the designs. They were odd when first introduced but I like the idea of them being so mechanical.

>>6355833
Wait those are ALL paint, no stickers???

I want a toy of that WW1 tank guy with the British officer's hat who takes pot shots at bee from Hopkins' castle.

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>>6355792
>this implies that at some point in the movie Cogman is going to rip Nitro's head off and shove his own headmaster there, and hijack his corpse to use as transport

Movie Autobots don't fucking play

>>6355853
Not paint. The sticker-like detail is printed on using a specific stamping process. We call those tampographs.

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>>6355780
>What's his alt mode?

>>6355856
Cogman is pretty overpowered. He was able to take overpower Crosshairs and is likely a bit psychotic.

>>6355865
Perhaps some variant of headmaster technology is how Bumblebee is literally unkillable now

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>>6355854
same here, war veteran bot is my jam. that tank bot is probably Jetfire friend

>>6355871
Toy????

>>6355831
Little Grimlock trying to breathe fire actually made me laugh

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>>6355874
Ransack, a Scout figure from Revenge of the Fallen.

>>6355887

I would love a Generations-ized version of a lot of the Bayformer stuff. The Bayformer stuff is just so...Grey and twiggy looking, and the faces are a definite no-go. If they applied more classic design elements (ie: bigger, thicker limbs, more colorful, and faces that didn't look like jumbles of garbage), I'd be all in on a lot of these. I'd love an old style plane like that if it just didn't look so barebones and anemic.

>>6355891
To be fair, biplanes are really, really barebones things. Like, they're mostly struts, strings and empty space. Ransack is about how a biplane TF would look.

>>6355891
The new Barricade is stupid close to being a good Generations one. Too bad the backpack is gigantic

>>6355896

I wonder if we could get a jet or biplane 'bot with arms done similar to Mindwipe's legs. Like, say you took biplane guy up there, and make his wings wrap around to form big blocks that were his forearms somehow. That'd help with the twiggy look.

>>6355891
I really hope nobody pays attention to your opinion because we already have more than enough of those.
The spindly designs are fine for some characters, having everyone design everything under the same aesthetic leads to dumb bullshit like that one 3P giving chunky limbs to the one guy that is a gashadokuro wearing a tank or the current movie Optimus design.

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>>6355891
isn't that basically WFC aesthetic?

Man, I wasn't ready for this.
TR Perceptor feels really cheap and flimsy, the head slot is scary-tight, the plastic feels like garbage, the thighs come apart at all times because of the weak ridges on the thighs and the ratchets on the hips, and the knee joints look like shit.

The Galaga and submarine modes are fun, though. TR Scalpel when?

>>6355516
SWAP THE ARMS
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>>6355674
Leader?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p_e8rPYO3sI&feature=youtu.be

Lennox: This is why I joined the Decepticons.
20 Mill on that Game Bumblebee! 20 Million!!

>>6355946
This made me laugh.
>>6355831
Funny.

>>6355896
It also helps that Ransack was envisioned from the script as a Jetfire-level old decepticon who was completely futile in his attempt to attack said defector.

Also that his design is cribbed from the Model-T based Transformer that would eventually evolve into Jetfire as "really old autobot".

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Anyone else disappointed Hasbro didn't gave us the Misfire superior toy facesculpt?

>>6355831
I actually really like Mark Wahlberg being the human conduit for the Transformers. He's quite charming to watch interact with them.

It fucking blows my mind that after the last movie, there were actually people nostalgiafagging over Shia LeBouf. It just goes to show that people will remember ANYTHING fondly if it happened more than 5 years ago.

>>6355977
Not disappointed, but a bit surprised. Why the fuck is his head pink, though?

>>6355980
Fuck off.
Shia is better than marky mark.

>>6355984
It's only pink on the prototype there, it's black in the official renders Hasbro released.

>>6355986
No. You are dumb. Mark is awesome!
Go and f@ck yourself! You Shiafag!

>>6355984
Most likely an unifinished handpainted prototype, his head is grey/black on the oficial renders.

>>6355933

I don't know what you were expecting, but Perceptor feels alright to me. The plastic feels fine, and nothing is loose on mine. The head connector was a bit tight on mine too, but then again, it'll probably loosen with a bit of play like Astrotrain/Sentinel's did, because theirs was scary fucking tight too when I first got'em.

>>6355984

Gonna guess it's actually going to be molded in pink plastic and then painted that metallic-ey black they use on a lot of black heads, since as a lot of Anon's said, his head is black in the official renders.

>>6355443
Anon who painted this please tell us more about it, it's gorgeous.

>>6355538
Why is Heatwave such an altmode slut?

>>6355443

Someone painted this with GW paints

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>>6356005

Probably guessing it's either someone from the gunpla threads, or another mini's wargamer guy like me, who wandered over from /tg/ to get a dose of a different kind of plastic crack.

Will Takara The Undefeated release the headmasters from the box sets?

>>6356001
It's a really good toy which makes up for the price in spite of its lack of quality, hence why I'm asking for a TR Scalpel from the same mold, but it still feels really cheap.

>>6355554
>retool
Don't use words you don't understand

>>6356019
teach us your glorious miniature painting secrets sempai?

>>6355980

The first movie came out ten years ago this month. A lot of the people on this website probably were only five when it came out.

>>6356037
>A lot of the people on this website probably were only five when it came out.
They shouldn't be posting here then.

>all these people sucking Walberg's dick

What is there to like about him? He's such a flat one dimensional actor and I cant help but be annoyed with him. I want to like him but he doesnt emote at all for his lines.

>>6356039
As if that's ever stopped anyone.

>>6356029

Hours and hours and hours of doing shit until it looks half decent. And then realizing it still looks bad. Continue doing this for years until you git gud, or until you realize you never will.

Hell, what I posted looks like shit to me still. Looks all...Gloopy and shit. Fuck. It looks so much better in hand, oh well.

>>6355929
I really wish we could've gotten more of these games and figures.

>>6356040
>He's such a flat one dimensional actor
He fits the movies perfectly, though. He plays a self-made, all-American blue collar guy at his wits end because of fucking space robots. He needs no more depth than that.

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>>6356047
I really wish we could've gotten more of them from 2010 instead of 2012.

>>6356048
I still can't stand him, I don't know what you guys see in him but ok to each their own.

>>6356051
Absolutely. The WFC Optimus and Megatron are some of my favorite versions of the characters.

>>6355792
Does this mean other (generations) titan masters can interface with both of these bots? I'd get Nitro if that's the case.

>>6355871
>>6355887
Damn the both of you.
Because of you I just spent the last 40 minutes digging through boxes in the attic looking for this guy.
Totally worth it.

How was the ROTF scout line so perfect?

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>>6356095
That certainly seems to be the case.

>>6355562
what figure is pic related?

>>6356106
Did they mention if Nitro's head fits in the cockpit?

>>6356047

Blame Activision, they gutted the studio.

>>6355986
>"sam we are looking for the allspark you grand dad used to have it"
>"NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO"
Please keep his character in jail forever.

>>6356106
This is great. I just hope the TR Thunderwing isn't diecast.

>Released as part of the BigBadToyStore-exclusive "Siege on Cybertron" box set, Titans Return Thunderwing is a redeco of Titan Master Fangry with a new die-cast metal Thunderwing face for his head mode.
god fucking dammit warden

>>6356155
Get ready, if Thunderwing is anything like Rodimus, it will be almost impossible to turn the tiny TM head.

>>6356156
Maybe I could try to recast it in resin and then chuck the diecast part into the trash where it belongs.
So many jap toys I'm avoiding because of the fucking diecast destroying the figure, stupid whalekillers are obsessed with their retarded fucking meme material.

>>6356163
Nigga die-cast is only really a problem when it's rubbing against plastic parts, if it's just the face it's not gonna cause much of an issue for you.

>>6355500
I like some designs. I love Starscream's, for example, as well as Optimus's look in the first few movies and Sentinel. Optimus's new design doesn't do much for me, though, and everything about poor Hot Rod looks bad.

>>6356180
Not him, but Rodimus does have that problem. The parts in diecast are the face and TM body, the TM head, arms, and legs are plastic.

>>6355728
>It was easily the worst art IDW has ever had
Not even close.

The faces were eerie as fuck and it made for an unpleasant read, though.

>>6356180
it also paint chips over time unless they use some genuine high-quality paints, and no toy company will pad the budget for that. Plus it has to be 100% painted which always looks like shit, fucking seriously, if a part is 80% red, cast it in fucking red.

>>6356198

>MP megs could have been a fun action figure if he conceded a little on gun accuracy so that his Transformation scheme wasn't so fucked

Why did they overpaint the most complex MP to date! Fuck me it's awful.

>>6356198
Now that I think of it, wouldn't I have to remove the paint to not have a mushy sculpt on the recasted piece?
Diecast makes me so fucking angry I could strangle its adherents, such an obnoxious gimmick and retards lap it up because MUH ADOOLT COLLECTIBELLS or MUH VALUE. I'm still mad about the Machine Robo figures being floppy pieces of shit because of the diecast, just let that fucking meme die.

>>6356217

Muh heft muhfugguh bix nood muh dick.

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>>6356227

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>>6356217
>>6356198
Amen. Diecast is shit. Painted diecast always looks awful, and it chips. Mold in multiple colored plastic, paint when necessary, fuck that worthless pot metal novelty garbage.

>>6355510
More like blow-up doll face ready for action.

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>>6356217

Amen brother.

>>6356217

Figures that are heavier just feel better. Van't explain it, it just werks. Also die cast used in the feet help balance a figure.

>>6356236

I really hate the way he holds his guns.

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Is Omega Supreme or Skorponok next? FT's offering looks great but I kinda want to see what Hastak do. I have no mainline figures though so it would have to be good enough to stand with my MP/turd collection and whatever titanmaster/headmaster gimmicks would be wasted.

>>6356241

That happens with a ton of characters though.

>>6356244
Omega was dead last, so unless they do another vote, it should be Scorponok.

>>6356247

Who are some other possible titan scale figures? Broadside? Grandus? Maybe Unicron?

>>6356240
figures with fucked up floppy diecast joints and paint chips feel worse than a light plastic toy. Diecast should only be used for parts that need durability, if a toy needs weight too then it should be molded in plastic and have weights inserted.

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>>6356233
>lets make a figure that barely has any feet to stand on with a huge heavy backpack
>And lets make sure the metal is rubbing against all the plastic ball joints so they only last a week

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>>6356251

>Die cast joints

Who even does this? The most copious use of die cast I know of is FT Sovereign. This dude's entire chest plate is a whack of die cast. So are his kneepads, helmet, shoulders, feet, and most of his purple backpack is all die cast. All of that is painted and yet he works like a charm. He hasn't flaked one bit and I'v had him for five or six months now.

Die cast can work. Whatever TT does though is shit and doesn't work as well. Megatron should not flake like he does.

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His head looks as bad as the cgi they use for the toy renders.

>>6356250

>Wrist swivels
>Ankle tilts
>No giant hollow gaps in the forearms

Does he have a waist swivel? There's more effort here than on any of the TR leaders by far.

>>6356249
Unicorn just got a re-release, Broadside is a literally who to most people today and Grandus is so obscure Hasbro wouldn't dare make a Titan class of him at the price they charge for those.
It'll be Scorponok followed by Omega and then maybe G1 repaints like Metrotitan, Grand Max, Black Zarak and City Guardian Omega

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>>6356240
I will never understand this mindset. I got a chance to play with a third party Galvatron and he was a fucking nightmare to transform. He was like almost 3 pounds of metal for no fucking reason and made keeping joints in place for altmode a bitch. Seriously, he was almost as heavy as the Maketoys Scorponok they had, but he was heavy because he was fucking huge.

>>6356267
Am I crazy? do you find transforming him easy?

>>6356274

His Transformation isn't easy but it's not exactly hard. Pretty middle of the road as far as Transformations go on the high end.

>>6356267
In the case of Eagle Robo it wasn't even that the joints were diecast, the entirety of the torso from the waist up was diecast with some plastic parts thrown in and the balljoints at the hips just couldn't stand the weight.
No idea how the rest fared because I dropped the line right after seeing that shit, also because Eagle Robo was my most anticipated figure on that line and it was already ruined because its idiot designers thought a gimmick that worked when the line was first made 30 years ago could work with the demands of a modern figure that has different needs than the fucking unposeable go-bot.

>>6356020
My TR Perceptor was the same, neck joint was so tight, I pulled the TM's head right off, ball joint sticking up
First time that ever happened, and I have been super careful with these

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>>6356269
>No giant hollow gaps in the forearms
Look again. Megatron has quite possibly the worst example of hollow forearms ever.

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Wal Mart received some TR Chromedomes with the Japanese head instead of the US head. Has anyone here actually seen or purchased one and does anyone know what else was in the case with him?

>>6356289
I've never seen them, and my Walmart restocked the shit out of Chromedome.

>>6356289
I'm still not convinced this wasn't just a damn hoax.

>>6356066
Ok, then what the fuck did you like about Shia LeBeouf?

>>6356020
They'll likely release the Clones, no clue on heads.

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>>6356180
You clearly never had the original Masterpiece Optimus. The chest windows were loose as fuck out of the box on top of being lopsided, but that was metal on plastic. The legs however, weren't, and the knee joint in the left leg would break immediately, meaning any poses that weren't stock straight weren't happening. The heavy ass shins totally ruined the figure and made him a MIB only toy.

>>6356297
As terrible, goofy, and outdated as MP01 looks nowadays, I still have a soft spot for the big old lumper.
Though I had both the MP04 OP and the UM versions, and I never ran into any of the issues you're describing there. Mine were, and are, totally fine to this day.

>>6356297
U had a lemon or you ham handed it somehow. That figure is rock solid.

>>6356293
He actually responded to the situations like he was actually IN them? Marky Mark just kinda runs around or stands there but Shia at least came off like he was really running to save his ass or scared of whatever he was facing. I just dont like how static Walberg is.

>>6356217
Haha, diecast is awesome you retarded little fag. Diecast is a big part of why transformers were even successful in the first place. Imagine the g1 toys with zero metal. Fucking lame.
Soul of Chogokin figures must have raped you or something.

>>6356309
>it was cool and trendy 30 years ago so that makes it unconditionally good!
Geewunners everyone.

>>6356236
I'm very irked that Takara didn't release their own version of Highbrow's Titan master in their EX set.

https://toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=83101426&gclid=CNOD2uu3oNQCFUlNfgodu5oOmw&camp=PLAPPCG-_-PID23180536%3aTRUS&cagpspn=plat_23180536&eESource=CAPLA_DF%3a83101426%3aTRUS
Is this worth it? Titans returns got me back into transformers and now I want a combiner.

>>6356326
Maybe they saved it for another set? I'm getting the feeling they'll do another using Shuffler and the like.

>>6356361
I'm pretty sure you'd be able to get that set for a lower price, since barely anyone bought the g2 sets

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at long last

>>6356361
No. The g2 sets tend to have shoddy qc and personally don't like the deco. Just scope out the bst on TFW2005, I've seen people selling the regular set for that much.

>>6356372
Partial shell former?

>>6356372
Robot mode looks nice, but idk about the raptor mode

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>>6356309
>Diecast is a big part of why transformers were even successful in the first place. Imagine the g1 toys with zero metal. Fucking lame.
You're not from the 80s, are you?

Transformers sold because of the comic/cartoon and wide selection of transforming vehicles-into-humanoids.
That's it.

Diecast was in almost everything back then and it didn't help a lot of other toylines, so diecast really had no part in G1 toys being popular.

The fact that collectors like you that swear by it is solely for nostalgic reasons.
Diecast is shit.

pic of awesome diecast toys that bombed, which would have been awesome anyway even if it was made solely of plastic.

>>6356372
Looks nice, though they sure put him in an unflattering pose there.

I really hope he comes with an articulated tail though.

>>6356372
Looks as shitty as all the other beast MPs.

>>6356395
Yeah he does look pretty good

>>6356386
God damn, you. I hate this board. One minute I'm just scrolling along and the next I'm on ebay looking for a toy line I didn't know existed two minutes ago. I fucking love tiny vehicles and bigger vehicles that can hold them.

>>6356386
G1 didn't even have diecast outside of the original Microchange and Diaclone imports. Once they started with their own designs Hasbro dropped that shit as fast as they could.

>>6356386
>I have the tank but never knew there was a plane it fit into
Well shit.

>>6356372
>That Mickey Mouse Prime

>>6356407
Started the cheapening in 1987 and never looked back.

>>6356401
I loved megaforce, since they were mostly in-scale with micro machines and had crazy gi joe-ish designs. A lot of the tanks were diecast with plastic turrets, and some were even inexplicably able to become defense towers.

>>6356303
I don't think it looks bad at all. It's just a lot less dynamic in terms of poseability and proportions both.

>>6356372

Well, if they were gonna get one mode right I guess I'm glad it's the robot.

That raptor though...yeeesh.

>>6356433
To be fair, Dinobot's raptor mode has never not looked like shit.

>>6356433
Does it look like his head actually forms the chest, or is it fake parts?

>>6356440
His chest looks too wide and short to be the beast mode head

>>6356433
My only worry is the head articulation on the beast mode. It's hard to tell exactly whats going on with prototype renders but I can't make out too many joints on that long neck.

>>6356413
Die-cast tooling was/is actually a whole lot cheaper thsn plastic tooling. It's the reason Hasbro went ahead with the Titanium line.

>>6356361
G2 sets were on clearance for $30 and that's as much as they're worth. Sure they had a lot of plastic and paint, but poor design decisions and QC made them awful as toys.

Example: G2 Menasor set's way-too-thick paint made it impossible for the figures to hold their weapons, things could not tab in, and there's just a general sense of cancerpaint falling all over your floor as you transform the toys.

>>6356454
I guess i'll just wait for a good combiner to come around in a few years.

>>6356433
I mean, it was pretty obvious that the beast mode would be either meh or shit since they are trying to make robot modes as accurate as possible when you look at the other two
Hope he comes with some nice accessories

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Notice the one word slogan on these posters. Optimus' is 'Destroy'

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Here is a better picture of the mag page of Dinobot

>>6356461
>poster word is rise
So is it all but confirmed hot rod is gonna become Rodimus Prime this movie?

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>>6356471
Oh jesus that dinosaur is derpy as fuck.

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>>6356471

>that dino mode

>>6356461
So what's the deal with Hot Rod?

Like what's the chances he's ACTUALLY Hot Rod, and not just some French robot that shares the name? This poster makes me wonder if he's actually going to "rise" to leader.

>>6356471
>completely different robot hands and dino feet

I wonder how that's gonna work

>>6356471
that robot mode does damn near look like the show model, and that's an accomplishment...

i don't think both modes could realistically be done justice though and it shows in dino mode for sure...

>>6356372
Well shit Im pretty disappointed with that Raptor mode but bot mode looks ok. Certainly not as excited for it as I was, oh well.

>>6356471

It's probably for the best that they're completely sacrificing the dino mode for robot, but at that point they probably should've just released a fucking MP Actionmaster.

>>6355554
Nah, if anything it might be a crosshairs heavy retool.
Contrary to most bots, cogmans shoulers are his back wheels, not front

>>6356482
That would be cool but seems unlikely. I think he'd be getting more focus in the promo material if that were the case.

>>6356507
The feet look like they share engineering with new Barricade.

>>6356510
The optimist in me hopes that they're pulling a Rey

>>6355679
>waist swivel

Got a link for that?

>>6356479
>>6356481
>>6356490
That's what his dino mode looked like on the show.

>>6356513
The toys also make it clear it ain't happening. No Rodimus Prime figures at all, and Hot Rod himself is relegated to being an exclusive.

>>6356515
More less, yea. It was a pretty deformed velociraptor. I think it looks pretty good still.

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>>6356471

oh fuck yeah

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>>6355891
So, this?

>>6356524
Not that anon, but yeah, I fucking love this. I wish the movies had this aesthetic.

>>6356515
Sorry, but years of Jurassic Park
>and also not liking that retarded show
have spoiled me for what a velociraptor should look like.

>>6356523
who is that?

>>6356540
Chris Chan?

>>6356306
Shia's Sam can go fuck himself for treating Bumblebee like a pet. Also frantic overacting isn't good acting.

>>6356461
With a face like that, I wonder if he might actually replace bumblebee instead of prime?
Definitely reminiscent of some kind of wierd 'cute' insecty robot thing.
Dunno, just a thought.

>>6356471
Looks too much like the show model, so featureless and undetailed. It needs more details from the toy, the Masterpiece line was never about making toys look like the show model. But this toy is now shit because it has to be a slave from a badly animated cartoon by a bunch of animators who just didn't care about making a workable transformation. It's over the Masterpiece line is finished by this horrible need for show accuracy.

>>6356471
I like it. Though I likely won't have him in raptor mode much.

>>6356540
Clearly >>6356479 altmode.

>>6356471
He's a little potato of a raptor ain't he? It probably won't be as egregious in a color that's not "gloss digital prototype grey"

>>6355854

>WW1 tank guy with the British officer's hat who takes pot shots at bee from Hopkins' castle.

did you see a preview screening or something

>>6356581
Leaked 15 minutes of footage on /tv/

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>>6356583
Nah that footage was in /co/, /toy/ and /tv/ during Cinemacon's days, but otherwise was posted on Youtube.

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>>6356581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pcaP-cynCI

>>6356292
It wasn't. Different people found them in different places, with photos of the figures in the store.

>>6356289
I'm guessing it was some kind of mix-up at the factory. Maybe they used Takara's modified molds by mistake, and Hasbro just told them to use Takara's head's paint apps since IIRC both companies use special airbrush stencils tailored to each mold. It would explain why the even more recent runs of the figure are back to using the old headplate instead of Takara's being a running change.

>>6356573
This. I spent a good while comparing the toy to the show model and he's pretty darn accurate, maybe a little pudgier in the toy but not bad. Color and patterning really do a lot to change how something looks.

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>>6356471
The beast mode looks pretty accurate to me
He always had that refrigerator look
Unless people are complaining about the broken up shit with visible robot mode section, which doesn't make sense because Cheetor was just as bad and it's pretty much inevitable for most beast modes

>>6356593
>alien bayformer designs
>MUH SCRAPMETUHL KEK MAKE DEM HUMAN LOOKING
>new bayformer designs are literally human caricatures

Fucking monkey's paw

So I just looked at my collection after I sold some stuff off years ago, and I don't have a fucking Optimus Prime???

What's the best Generations Optimus Prime I can get easily now? Generations, classics, Universe, I don't know what they call the lines now anymore desu. You know what I mean though.

I'd really appreciate some opinions!

>>6356616
Oh my god I forgot about the desu thing I'm laughing so hard

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>>6356615
I'll forgive Crosshairs and Hound because they look super sexy.

Drift seems like a cross between the original and nu design and doesn't mesh very well, and Hot Rod is literally an updated Lockdown with a shit head.

>>6356616
MPP10. OS KO MP10.
Huge, Epic and Cheap.
$65 shipped from ShowZ.

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>>6356616
>What's the best Generations Optimus Prime I can get easily now?

If you want muh, G1 the classics repaint from the AoE evolution 2 pack, is a pretty nice and cheap option, je has chrome tights and G1 sticker detail tampoed on his legs,

>>6355543
Isn't he also a bit of a dick in IDW right now?

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>>6356623
Thank the chinese overlords.

>>6355562
I need pictures of him next to MP10 or a Leader RotF Prime.

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>>6356616
If you want a modern take on him, go for the Combiner Wars voyager either with or without the Primo Vitalis kit that makes him IDW Prime, but also makes him huge, same size as MP Prime and leader class Megs.

>>6356626
Oh wow, I didn't realize they rereleased him. He's the one I had originally. Not sure if I wanna pick him up again. Any other options from the past few years? I have some of the new headmaster figures and I dig their engineering. I never realized how old that Optimus mold is now.

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>>6356628
Compared to other characters like Prowl, Chromia, etc he's a saint. He's pretty much just a dick and an egoist but nothing too bad.

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>Question
Are there any good transformers out there with working tank treads?
Or do they all have hidden wheels?

>>6356633
Holy shit does that transform? I love his IDW look.

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>>6356629
>the chinese overlords.
Someone asked for voyager Hardhead and Brainstorm?

>>6356628
He's having to deal with some serious bullshit courtesy of Optimus, Megatron and his own crew so while he is being a dick there's at least cause for it.

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>>6356554
Well, it is now, and that is how it should ALWAYS have been. Show accuracy is EVERYTHING. I don't understand Transformers fans and wanting desperately for details from their widdle baby toys to be included in high-end collectibles. Toys are supposed to emulate the show model, but FAILED. They are FAILURES, wasted pieces of malformed, misshapen plastic. Now, you want those inferior genes to mutate a work of art? This is what eugenics is for. Purge those fuckers from our collective consciousness so that only show-accurate bots remain.

...yes, I know that the animation models are based on the toys, but the toys were just that fucking shitty that they had to change shit up. Look at how HIDEOUS that looks. Fuck the original toy. FUCK IT TO HELL with your nostalgic attachment for them.

>>6356639
Well they gotta have something to fund their MP Megatron.

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>>6356638
Yeah, and still combines.

>>6356593
What the shit is the deal with Hot Rod's voice?

>>6356647
Damn that's nice but far out of my price range.

>>6356643
I'd rather have cool toys that are fun to play with and display than show accuracy. So long as the designs are interesting and reflect the character, I'm alright with them. Show accuracy for its own sake is neat, but I'd much rather the MP premium prices be reflected elsewhere.
>>6356633
That looks good but I can't help but think it would be better off as its own complete mold. Having a smaller (but still large) somewhat crap looking Optimus in a cooler, more normal Optimus isn't that interesting a gimmick. The 3P Ginrai add-on makes more sense.

>>6356641
But hasn't Optimus attempted to amend for it?

Hell, from where I last left off, Megatron also pulled his own weight and has been trying his best to not let his angst get the best of him.

>>6356637
The CW leader Megatron does, I believe. I own the Armada version, funnily enough. It's a cool figure.

>>6356647
>>6356633
Or better yet don't buy that piece of shit and get the infinitely better looking 3P alternatives, I'm not even a turd guy but look at this >>6342346 and tell me what you're suggesting is superior. At the amount you'd be spending now for a CW Prime and the add-on kit why not just go full in on a more accurate rendition?

>>6356655
Well, I don't know about you, but for me, I want ALL THREE. Show accurate toys that are fun to play with and display.

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>>6356660
>look at this >>6342346 → and tell me what you're suggesting is superior.

It is superior, the one in the middle looks too thin, look at the tiny noggin and long torso, the one on the far right just doesn't work, but it was the first one so its understable, yeah the kit is expensive but right now its the best option for IDW Prime robot mode.


Just found a use for this >>6356639 it will make a nice Stalker.

>>6356471
I don't like how short his arms are compared to his torso. I get that it's accurate to the show, but it doesn't look cool or imposing enough for Dinobot. Primal is DEAD-ON with the show and he works. Looking at my Cheetor I feel they tweaked his proportions a bit from the show and he looks just great.
Anyway, I hope the line goes well enough that they branch out away from the show just because I'd kill for a MP Leo Prime.

>>6356657
>But hasn't Optimus attempted to amend for it?
No not really, no. He seriously fucked Rodimus over; keep in mind the Lost Light was a privately owned ship that Drift bought with his own money and gave to Rodimus for the quest. Optimus just walked him and took it over and told Rodimus Megs was co-captain and oh by the way do what I say because I'm the goddamn Prime.

>Megatron also pulled his own weight and has been trying his best to not let his angst get the best of him.
Megatron was doing better right up until now when they got into the parallel universe and he turned into a little righteous shit.

>>6356639
holy shit im so getting that one. i hope they make upsized triggerhappy

>>6356660
>he thinks the lanklet one in the middle looks good

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>>6356674
They gave Brainstorm his twin guns... why didn't hasbro made this?

>>6356303
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLBkvp2yFsg
They should've put the faceplate on a hinge.

>>6356683
They did give him twin guns, in the voyager generations mold.

>>6356666
Still a bit annoyed they didn't make a TR Doubledealer that could also be used for Stalker and MW Soundwave.

>>6356683
>>6356639
>the boxes have better, more dynamic art
kek
I'll be getting Chromedome, I really need something to give a body to my shitty Land Bison KO.

>>6356701
I would've been fine with a retool of Hardhead.
Hell, I only bought mine once TR Stalker never was confirmed.

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How does takara keep winning? It's not fair bros.

>>6356683
How's the headmaster?

>>6356710
Easy. They can charge 4x the price of the USA counterparts and suckers will still buy it.

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>>6356710

As someone who never saw whatever show these guys are from, can someone explain why the fuck they have upsidedown G2-looking badges on them?

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How good is movie version Brawl?
Anyone have him?

>>6356724
Evil twins