Transformers general: MURICA CONVOY edition

>dead

it's on fucking page 2.

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Thoughts on the die-cast cars? I think they look nice, but when you consider Alternators was a thing 10 years ago, and this basically means they won't revive Human Alliance for the movie toys...

>>6347834
It hit the posting limit newfag.

>>6347839
They make as much sense as action masters

>>6347839
They are great! I would love to see Drift too.
Anyway,there are:
Optimus Prime
Barricade
Bumblebee
Crosshairs
Hot Rod

Maybe:
Hound
Drift
Megatron?
Onslaught?

>>6347849
It hit the BUMP limit, newfag. There is no posting limit. People can still see the thread in the catalog easily and you don't need to make a new thread the second it hits 300 replies.

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hahaha I love the headmaster gimmick xD

doublecross is totally a better toy now because I can put the little unpainted robot sitting in the opaque block in his alt mode!!! even though i can't even see the robot sitting there this totally adds a ton of playability wow

it totally better because the unpainted robot can partsform and go into alt mode where you can't even see it!!! xDDD

>>6347863
I like Triggerhappy.

>>6347863
Force the meme more.
Force it like theres no tomorrow.

>>6347868
It's not a meme if it's literally how TR fanboys act.

>>6347863
Inb4 no actual counterpoints because you're right.

>>6347849
>newfag pretending to know how chans work
Go back to TFW

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Well, we're off to a great start...

>>6347849
Always tf threads. You guys always go full stupid and it has to be spoon feed to you. Most generals on toys either wait till 1k posts or reaching page 6 before starting a new thread becuse the board is so slow anyways. To keep huffing a new thread on bump limit makes you look like autist that just wants to shitpost for (You)s

>>6347881
Here's your (you)

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>>6347879
I know right. We need some news so we can have something else to bitch. Can't wait for the next series; gimmick to be intrusive and totally worth bringing up every fucking thread.

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Got LG Godbomber on the way, but because the royal don't deliver on the weekend and because it's a bank holiday on monday, I'll probably need to wait until wednesday/thursday to get him, just glad he's cumming.

Anything you guys are waiting on?

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>>6347863
>not liking Doublecross

>>6347918
>liking the shitty gimmick that adds nothing to the toy

>>6347823

old bread:
>>6344144
>>6344144
>>6344144

>>6347936
I don't get it.

I finally got around to picking up MP cheetor and he's alright. Maybe not so solid next to primal, but he'll do. Holy fuck though, are the little blue tabs to hold his shoulders together supposed to be this terrible? I've been messing with him on and off all morning and I still can't get them to stay together.

Also I can see how people were breaking his shoulders, the vertical swivel there is tight as hell. Is there a way to loosen them?

>>6347863
I think doublecross ruins good ideas with terrible execution just fine without taking into account headmasters, thank you very much.

>>6347947
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/New_Cybertron_Part_5:_Future_Glories_Lost

Read the Synopsis.

>>6347947
The comics recently had Junkions show up on Earth. During the battle, Soundwave used his people skills to convince the Sharkticons to break free from their masters, the Junkions.

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>>6347957
>>6347947
>>6347936

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=309&v=kA2eUkoVv5Y

OOOoOOOO BOY

>>6347949
I haven't had any issue with those shoulder tabs. I almost find it hard to believe you have an MP Cheetor with a loose joint.

>>6347988
They're not loose, per say, more that they just won't tab all the way in in the first place. Honestly that's more annoying than anything, I can just turn his shoulders around so the screw is in front and it becomes pretty ignorable. The actual swivel, on the other hand, is scary as hell.

>>6347863
Doublecross only issue is the lack or wrist rotation.

>>6347995
I'm not sure if they're supposed to tab perfectly flush actually. And yeah the swivel joint there is pretty nerve wracking at times. It's a metal rivet too so it's really not able to be loosened

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>>6347985
>he shows off basically nothing in 5 goddamn minutes of messing with the thing

Why the fuck did he even bother to smuggle it out of some chinese factory then?

>>6348001
As proof of having it for a dumb impatient buyer ready to pay triple for it?

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Man, Scourge is still such an amazing toy.

>MP meg reissue on tfsource

Did he dry up that quickly? I hope they fix some shit.

>>6347920
>hating the awesome gimmick that adds everything to the toy

>>6347957
>this triggers the geewunner

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>>6348030
>loves G1
>loves IDW
>only thing I really don't like is Bayformers, because the aesthetic looks ugly as fuck and everything has bug faces

So where does this put me?

>>6348007
That took me by surprise too. I was planning on picking him up next week, I had no idea he was sold out everywhere.

>>6348005

Never owned one, but have been thinking about picking up one of the 3P versions, since they look pretty good.

>>6348036
With most people who have more than a passing interest in the franchise.

>>6348030
>loves IDW
Faggot.

>>6348030
>le assmad reeduner

even when you get what you want,m you still bitch. Kind of makes you similar to conservatives

>>6348042

>not telling takara to release better quality products instead of eating shit up because you just have to have v2 megs.

His price is inexcusable for his issues.

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How good are Quillfire, Fracture and Thunderhoof compared to Drift, Soundwave and Skywarp?
I got the latter and feel like I might have missed out on some good RID shit.

>>6348048
You're better off going for the 3P one. The old one is a classic but it lacks thigh swivels and ankle tilts.

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>>6348004

>>6348052
Except I love TR. Stay mad, you projecting faggot.

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>>6348054

The new Soundwave is pretty good, and this is coming from someone who generally avoids anything not Generations or not 3P/MP like the plague.

got broadside yesterday at walmart for 29.95 canucks. very happy tourist, it will cost me at least 40 euro in my country if I can find it at all. did I do good?

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>>6348054
I have always been of the school of thought that Quillfire is one of the best Transformers in years

>>6348081
If you need this pathetic lot (including me) to validate your purchase, I don't know what to tell you.

>>6348088
good point. happy with it anyway.
was just wondering if it came cheaper somewhere else

>>6348068
I'll get him when they eventually release a version with the face plate.

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>>6348094
>>6348081

If you enjoy it, it's all good Anon. I don't know how much soviet canukistan mapledollars that is, but here in the US he's $25, so it sounds like you got a good deal given most beaverbux prices I've seen for stuff is like nearly 1.5x to 2x the price.

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>>6348113
I broke the wing on his leg off trying to pop it off, so I just trimmed the hinge off and left it in his leg. I also painted the chest grey and painted over the clear parts on the wings. Because it looked stupid.

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>>6348115

How did you manage to break it?

>>6348068
I know, he's one of those that I got.

>>6348111
Takara probably will. There's even a slight marking for where it should be if you look close.

>>6348087
Yeah he looks dope af. I was a bit put off by the hollow legs at first but it might not be that bad.
Unfortunately we never got Scatterspike here so finding the original might be hard.

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>>6348140
I was trying to pop it out of the hinge but since it's clear plastic, I must have bent it the wrong way.

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Does anyone own this?
I really want this even though I don't collect GI Joes, But this makes for a great foax pretender shell. I just can't justify spending 50 bucks on the thing, especially when I want that 3P Bludgeon so bad as well.

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Went to a flea market today and among my haul I got a bunch of RID Spy Changers for dirt cheap. I really love these guys despite the simple design and extreme simplicity.

>>6348160
Well, we know the head with a faceplate exists, I just hope it doesn't end up being an exclusive.

Now I suddenly remembered we still haven't seen the alternate Star Convoy head from TR Voyager Prime being used on anything.

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>>6348182

Also, those vehicle modes are FABULOUS!
Man, the amount of paint on these guys is incredible.

>>6348186
Back in the old days, there was this thing called effort.

>>6348182
>>6348186
I love the idea of these being Hot Wheels compatible; even though I don't actually collect Hot Wheels. I'd love new figures like these with better articulation.Legends are nice, but they don't roll as nicely.

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>>6348192
I got mirage for 2$CAN. from one guy. Fair enough.
But speaking of Hot Wheels, I guess one seller thought those were just that. Ordinary Hot Wheels. So I got that other 4 Spychangers plus a RID Ro-Tor (with both big guns) for 3$CAN total!

>>6348190
True dat.

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>>6347863
>>6347996
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/144750788@N08/31378836434/
>mfw it's easily fixed by giving him balljoints in the elbows

>>6348048
Same but nobody wants to make a voyager-sized long nose Scourge.
There's the MP version but it's huge and it would be out of place in my collection.

>>6348206

Isn't Striker Noir Voyager-ish sized? Then again he's also very stylized.

>>6348001
Welcome to video reviews.

>>6348212
No long nose.
To me, the long nose truck altmode and the giant shoulder pads are what separates Scourge from just being a straight Optimus clone

>>6347839
They are licensed products by Jada toys, and have nothing to do with Hasbro's line up.

For HA the closest will be the upcoming MPM line, despite the price difference

>>6348054
Pretty samey in terms of articulation and build quality to those 3, the thing that stands out for them is their bestial themes.

>>6348054
>Thunderhoof
Did you like FOC Swindle?

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I found a bunch (two, maybe three) Generations Dreadwing, the comic stealth bomber Megatron remold for half the price of a deluxe where I live. Should have I picked it up? Not really familiar with Dreadwing but I've got some decent G2 nostalgia and it looked good enough. Is the mold any good?

>>6348237
S'okay. Lacks the big-ass gat and docking of the original

>>6348239
Yeah its lack of a gatling gun is a bit of a shame. I assume his current gun isn't as "illing"

>>6347839
I've always liked diecast cars so this gives me an excellent excuse to buy one.

>>6348182
I remember the days of flea markets and rummage sales having cheap TFs. I've rescued and fixed up a few in my time, before sellers started jacking up prices for just parts online.

These days around here it's just white trash trying to get rid of the baby shit they had to buy because they couldn't be assed to use condoms.

>>6348182
That Mirage is not the RID one, it was released in universe at KBToys.

>>6348296
>These days around here it's just white trash trying to get rid of the baby shit they had to buy because they couldn't be assed to use condoms.
Here it's the same, but the trash is black or arab. Inb4 this comment trigger people but not the one I'm replying to

>>6348237
That mold feels undersized for both characters. It does makes a nice "big" cyberverse figure though.

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>>6348314
lewd

I still can't get over how good MP Primal and Cheetor are, how long are they gonna take to show any info about Dinobot already?

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>>6347839
I'm tempted for Prime.

>>6348328
Speculation is a toy show coming up this Friday, or toy magazines next month. I'm very excited too, but its amazing how out of nowhere Sunstreaker came yet not a drop of info on Dinobot has come, not even a proper silhouette.

>>6348314
Looks like a perfect fit. And blends in more than Shortround.

>>6347885
Power of the Primes has a gimmick. Finishing 1980s G1 with Beasts, Dinobots, Predacons, Monsters and Victory characters. Razerclaw and Grimlock are Voyagers. Many Combiners.

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>YFW power of the primes gimmick is a battery pack in all the deluxe/voyager/leaders that takes up valuable space making transformations terrible, and makes the toys smaller

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Please vote, it's very important. Thank you.
http://www.strawpoll.me/13063796

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>>6348401
please god no

maybe the gimmick will be two robot modes kinda like punch/counterpunch or longarm/shockwave.

so like they'd have regular robot mode and then "prime" mode

>>6348401

Never gonna happen, because that would cost way too much money for them to do.

>>6348409
>two people voted no

What kind of autist would vote no? There's literally ZERO reason to ever remove the guns.

>>6348401
>>6348411
In before it's a reuse of the Cyberkey Gimmick

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>power of the primes is that all figures are triple changers with a third mode that can turn into something that attaches in some way to other figures

>one guy becomes a huge axe
>another guy turns into a jetpack
>all figures use the same peg/attachment system, so all figures are compatible with everything else in the line

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>>6348418

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>>6348417
I can wait until tomorrow so enough people can debate about this. Like a said, it's a serious matter.
Thanks for the comprehension.

>>6348423
>Not wanting a rocket launcher that doubles as an even bigger rocket launcher

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>>6348431
The highs were high, but the lows were lower.

>>6348418
I would not mind that

>>6348432
>Generations2018RhinoxPrototype.jpg

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>>6348418
i didn't mind the figures like Snarl that let had a place for the key to go when not in use...otherwise it was a lot to keep up with

>>6348401
Current Hasbro spending money on electronics. Are you retarded?

>>6348449
We never got a Carnivac deco of him. You had one fucking job Funpub and you idiots instead made a bunch of fucking d-listers no one gives a shit about.

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>>6348418
>>6348422
OH BOY!

>>6348451
You'll probably get one when they do a Jungle Planet Box set, but It'll be the TR Weirdwolf.

>>6347862
As someone who has been on 4chan since 2006 or 2007 (i forget), it's perfectly acceptable to start a new thread when the bump limit is hit.

Only newfags care about the catalog, so not everyone uses it or even cares to check.
A thread being bumped up to page one ensures new blood to come into the threads and keeps all threads from being circlejerking, no n00bsallowed, oldfag, shitholes.
Of course, Generals in general allow that festering to happen anyway.

>>6348452
So how come he didn't get a Wing Saber-sort of guy?

>>6348462
One of the biggest missed opportunities of that line.

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>>6348452
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fW2IK3lnt4

>>6348422
Would be cool if they made it so each figure had an armor/robot/alt-mode and could combine with any other figure of the same class.


Imagine an Omega Prime that could be an armored up Optimus or an armored up Magnus, or hell have Megatron become Optimus's armor.

Paint distribution on toys is something I'll never understand.

Why did not make the front of TR Kup's vehicle mode the same color as the rest of the cockpit?

>>6348506
>omega prime

don't you fucking go there, anon! >:o

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>>6348539

The same reason why almost nothing of Brainstorm is molded in the right color and instead slathered in paint.

Bad planning.

>>6348542
That's the thing, planning for what? If this mold was still used for Orion, I'd use the same color distribution for the cockpit section, and Takara seemed to keep that whole section in the same color (which is weird since the front in their version is not the same color as the rest of the cockpit).

At least in Brainstorms case, I can say it's because they planned the retool at the last minute or something.

>>6348547
>That's the thing, planning for what?

Nothing. Thats why it's bad planning, because they obviously didn't plan anything out properly.

>>6348542
>>6348553
>bad planning
No, you faggot. It has to do with it being cheaper and more efficient to cast parts in different batches and then just fucking paint them, especially when you consider molds are often used for multiple characters and color combos, it isn't cost effective to keep altering the sprues.

Why is this fandom so dumb?

>>6348542
Is the TF fandom the only sub-culture of toy enthusiasts that thinks paint is bad?

>>6347915
Thrilling 30 Springer from eBay.

>>6348541
>>:o
>>>/r/eddit
>>>/out/

>>6348564

Paint isn't bad. Casting an entire part in the wrong color, when the part is going to be subject to friction and transformation scraping, is bad. Coating an entire figure head to toe in paint, is bad.

>>6347915
MP Artfire should be on my doorstep tomorrow. Then I don't have anything on order until LG Kup and Gnaw in September. Gonna be a long Summer.

>>6348554
>fandom
Hello /r/eddit, go away.

>>6348564
To be fair, regular action figures using paint don't usually have to shapeshift, and while most tranformers avoid the issue of paint coming off due to the transformation, it still comes up from time to time.

>>6348554
As pointed out earlier the cockpit being all done in one color would make sense for any reuse of the mold (which is pretty much just Orion Pax, we don't exactly have many choices for that Kup mold).

>>6348571
>when the part is going to be subject to friction and transformation scraping, is bad.
But there aren't really any painted parts on any TR figures that are subject to heavy friction. The paint seems to be quite durable. I don't see a single bit of scratching on any of my TR molds.
>Coating an entire figure head to toe in paint, is bad.
I cannot think of a single Transformer that has been coated in paint "head to toe". The whole anti-paint thing seems to have really gotten out of hand in the past year. We used to get figures with lots of paint, all the time, and nobody every pitched a hissyfit about it like this. I certainly don't recall anyone protesting any of the early MP cars, which all had pretty extensive paint jobs.

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Is it normal if I don't give a shit about Jazz, and want Porsche to cool their tits over "muh machines of war" so we can get an MP Cliffjumper?

MP21R isn't good enough for me.

>>6348554
It is a perfectly understandable situation, until the beancounters start butting in and the parts that get molded in the wrong color don't get painted in the right color.

>>6348591
>the parts that get molded in the wrong color don't get painted in the right color
Such as?

>>6348587
Nobody gives a fuck about your special snowflake preferences.

>>6347936
basically, groups are memeing communism in hopes it sticks with young people despite all its known fuck ups
memes...

>>6347863
Being this much of a joyless cunt

>>6348603
Welcome to /tfg/.

>>6348580
>I cannot think of a single Transformer that has been coated in paint "head to toe"

The last few MP's.

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>>6348602
Yes the comics are awfully insidious in their agenda.

Why just look at this, they're praising the war on Christmas, the fiends!

>>6348580
TR Brainstorm

>>6347863

You're that dumbfuck who kept posting about how you look forward to d0ing certain poses with the Constructicons, aren't you?

>>6348615
What's colored wrong?

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>>6347872

>>6348615
TR Brainstorm is not painted "head to toe", you hyperbole-slinging faggot.

Whatever, stay triggered. All the paint makes him one of the better-looking TR figures, because paint looks better than bare plastic. Deal with it.

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>>6347863

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>>6348603
that anon is not wrong though, it does have an opaque window cockpit and unpainted tiny robot as a head, the fact that this guys is two-headed dragon doesn't made him feels anything special compared to other TR is a let down

>>6348635
I would break this in two seconds probably.

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>>6348626

Not that guy, but he does have a lot of paint on him. Feet, torso, whole crotch is literally dipped in paint. Grey forearm bits, the wing bits on the shoulders, his entire nose cone. Like, a lot of him is paint for literally no reason.

>>6348622
But that's right, you fucking retard.

>haha just use your imageenashun with the unpainted little robot! XD

>>6348660
Why do you care? does others spending their money on stuff you don't like affect you in any way?

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>>6347839
I wouldn't buy movie based die cast. I would buy the RiD die cast Dickie is making, though, given how distinctive the designs are. Need better rims, though

>>6348587
Porsche made that comment over a decade ago, prior to the bay films.
I think they'll be changing their tune soon.

https://youtu.be/TtC2N7PEjko?t=8m40s
Whoops. I thought only the Takara version had problems standing up.

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>Walmart out of stock on TR figures for months
>Go in today and see a big transformer display for the movie
>Left side says "Titans Return"
>OH SHIT RESTOCK
>Every fucking figure is wave 1.
>Every. Fucking. Figure.
>check the aisle
>transformer section barren, no deluxes, no leaders, no voyagers, no legends, no headmasters.
>WWE figures overflowing off shelf
>Marvel Legends overflowing onto floor with shitty absorbing man wave figures
>Hotwheels overflowing
>all of these get new stock every 2 weeks
>Transformers.... Nope

What the fuck. I just want Krok and Topspin, and probably cosmos since I missed the boat on him before.

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>>6348036
>only thing I really don't like is Bayformers, because the aesthetic looks ugly as fuck and everything has bug faces
honestly most of the toy-only characters look fine, ROTF Thrust is still one of my favorite figures

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>>6348036
I can relate but instead of Bayformers, it's Beastformers. Something about transmetal organics and pretenders kinda irks me the wrong way.

>>6348819
I think my biggest regret as a TF collector is never getting the Leader/MPM Doritojet

That figure just looks so damn good.

>>6348819
woah why is that one massive?

>>6348835
Well it's definitely not the expensive statue so I'm guessing it's a KO 3P.

>>6348793
In vehicle mode it looks like he's piloting the jet. Cute.

>>6348831
Chances are they'll do a masterpiece mold of him after Barricade.

>>6348793
>>6348842
I can imagine if Bayscream had that design. It would be super cute.

>>6348007
>>6348042
I just picked one up in the P.I. for about 224 dollars American. Did I goof?

>>6348870
I think that's a pretty average price.

>>6348881
Oh good. What quality issues was that other anon talking about though?

>>6348887
some back parts were mis-assembled on some, also the paint flakes and peels off when you look at the figure with your left eye, and many of them had a waist/hip joint thing going on where it was tight to the point of breaking if you didn't loosen the screws first.

>>6348892
Ok, good to know. So loosen the hips with a philip's screwdriver, and do some research on what parts need to be reassembled.

>>6348673
>Why do you care?

Because it's a shit gimmick.

>does others spending their money on stuff you don't like affect you in any way?
does someone complaining about something you like affect you in any way?

>>6348845
I have no issue if they just rereleased the MPM Starscream in the movie colors over doing a new mold.

Figure was damn good.

>>6347949

I sanded mine down so they snap in. The prototype had them fixed so something happened to them in production.

The shoulders I just did hot-cold water until they finally started to loosen up.

>>6348401
And everyone will lap it up regardless because it's g1.

>>6348587

I want ae86 Jazz. It suits the character to a t.

>>6348571
Remember when Mattel cast a few MOTUC in black and painted them head to toe? Newfags don't. Also, MOTUC cost money, so poorfags don't either.

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>>6348958

New TV spot!
Megatron transformation!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=1OvjpdaFtds

>>6348982
More like teaseformation.

>>6348982
why does it feels most of the action scene deliberately will happen in vast field and not city blocks

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>>6348982
>Barricade drifting out of harm's way

I hope he gets the screentime and quantity of lines he deserves.

>>6348985
Hey if it means better camera focus on the robots like from ROTF's forest battle, I'm game.

But it's a given that one of the city action scenes are for Bee vs Barry, London.

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>>6348982
I really hope this is a good movie in general and not just a good TF movie.

>>6348991

Oh naive anon. After 4 shitty movies, I have zero hope this new movie will be anything but shit.

It has decent toys though, like most of the films, so that's a plus.

>>6349031
New writers team. Bay made 13 hours,a good movie. TF 1 and 3 were decent.

>>6349042
>movies have pissing jokes
>decent

>>6349049
>One joke kills a movie
If that's the case TF 1980 wouldn't have been a hit as it was pissing on the fans of the quickly-killed characters.

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>>6348178
The paint job isn't proper enough for 50 bucks, spend your money elsewhere.

Speaking of Bludgeon, why did they even bother with RID Blastwave? Everyone but kids and reviewers skip it for the Bludgeon version.

>>6348979
HACHIROKU DA!

>>6348087
Quillfire is probably my favorite of the RiD Decepticons. His design is great, even with the toys being on the simplified side of things, and porcupines aren't something you see often.

>>6348237
The weapon is kinda eh but overall the mold is decent. It's a jet that's not a reused Seeker mold, that gets points for something.

>>6348314
Sea-ception!

>>6348384
>Razerclaw and Grimlock are Voyagers. Many Combiners.
Being a combiner would be a bonus, I'll take just getting new Predacons regardless.

>>6348418
Cyberkeys weren't THAT bad. Most of the larger figures utilized it decently. It was shoehorning it into the small ones that got cumbersome and stupid

>>6348793
Agreed. *Most* of the figs of non-screen characters were good. Or at least a cute novelty (like the toaster-demon). I liked designs like Breakaway/Thrust there that had different from standard designs WITHOUT going shredded metal junkart the main char figs did.

Still salty the concept of a Decepticon armored truck to steal valuables got ruined by that stupid gimmick plunger sticking out of the figure's backside though.

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>>6349042
You mean the clusterfuck that decided to slam three movie plot together for a second time? The ones who were slapped onto a franchise ten years after it started to turn it into a cinematic universe by shoving as much lore into it as possible while throwing away continuity again? The ones who decided to do the 'Ancient Transformers have shaped human history' for the fifth time?

This movie is going to be an incoherent mess of conflicting ideas that will coast off a stupidly high Chinese box office. The only good thing about this movie is that it can't be totally given away by trailers because they all look like they're from 3 different movies.

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>pre-ordered mp dirge from premium collectables like the seeker faggot I am
>after waiting since September for my mp primal I have lost faith in them
>but also want to pre-order mp movie bumblebee and platinum edition unicron
>some people are reporting that they are only now receiving primals

What do I do, double up on dirge and sell the double, or put that money towards "new" stuff?

>inb4 movieshit
I like camaro's.
>inb4 seeker retool
I'm a seeker fag and people are saying dirge is the better of the 3, after thrust and ramjet I'm easily impressed
>inb4 unicron is old toy
I don't see any more unicrons for many years

So, suggestions, my money needs to be wasted somewhere

>>6349031
Oh fuck off. DOTM was decent and the first is still a great action movie

>>6348793
Shame the rest of the movie aerialbots didn't get figures, they look cool in the DOTM game, also Warpath. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpjAZDrrvRk

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>>6349089
>forgetting to mention my new pre-orders are with someone else with a better track record

I fucked up again!

>>6349042
>3
>decent
You're an idiot.

>>6349089
So all I have to do is offer prices a few pennies less the rest and you'll throw hundreds of dollars at me no matter how poor my performance and reputation are?

>>6349082
Actually China did IV a favor because for obvious reasons.

TF5 at least is actually backtracking with the Ark and the Harvester being shown, Barricade coming back and Optimus getting off world hallucinations and scenes.

Also new writers mean new writers, like for the first time since TF1 we have the Ironman 1 writers doing it.

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>>6349095
It technically was, in regards to the Bayformers series rather than as a movie itself. DOTM pretty much was the most coherent movie in the whole series, and that's not saying much.

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>>6349096
Premium collectables was fine at first, I was one of the lucky ones who got their mp ramjet without hassle despite one poor sob getting a refund months later (mind you my ramjet was missing a piece but nothing detrimental unlike some others).

Its because they tried to expand into the global market rather than sticking to local australian trade that problems happened, NOW they're trying to fuck over the customers saying WE want cheap prices and therefore are ok with the long wait times for products, but over 6 fucking months for mp primal is beyond retarded.

And their listing for mp sunstreaker is a tell tale sign, along with their promotion where you get a discount code if you post proof you got something from them recently, that they bit off more than what they could chew.

And people are still throwing money at them despite the wait times

>>6349095
The second half of 3 was great

>>6349099
They also got the writers from Black Hawk down and the cinematographer of John Wick, so expect good action

>>6349107
It's obvious flaw howevever is that the cameras never showed the Autobots getting caught, and they only made a dent of relevance when Shockwave was getting mowed down by the humans.

Still, I liked it for Optimus and Sentinel, not much for anyting else.

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>>6349109
>Good action
Nah, that still depends on how much Bay is willing to do bot on bot action. So far we have confirmed
-Prime vs Infernoci (looks good)
-Purple-eyes Prime vs Megatron (looks good)
-Purple-eyes Prime vs Bee (looks good)
-Megatron vs Hound (Too little footage to tell)

and little to nothing of the Decepticons and the remaining Autobots.

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>>6349114
Hot Rod is with Hound when he's fighting Megatron
There's also:
-Bumblebee vs Barricade
-Aerial battle with Hot Rod and Bumblebee flying the (decepticon?) ships while Hound is on the surface with humans
-Megatron attacking Cades junkyard which might lead to him fighting Grimlock

Also webm related looks like it'll be a pretty big fight

>>6348660
>haha just use your imageenashun with the unpainted little robot! XD
I feel like you could make this comment about every Transformer from the past few years.

>>6349118
>Hot Rod is with Hound when fighting Megatron
He always is when a fan favorite is dying somewhere in the vicinity...

>>6349118
We still haven't seen Drift in any trailers.

>>6349120
Recent Transformers more specifically. Hell it might as well be the AoE line / TLK Premiere Deluxe line in a nutshell.

>>6349103
>And people are still throwing money at them despite the wait times
Then they deserve however brutal a fucking they get when the PC owner disappears and the website reverts to a blank page.

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>>6349123
>inb4 they actually use his ex-Decepticon lore to team up with Barricade as hinted in being a double-teaming motherfucker

Also wasn't there a Drift of this?

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Got my hands on a Sonokong Lio Convoy from Anime North this year. I am extremely happy to finally get one. Anybody here like Lio Convoy as well?

>>6349125
Agreed, fuck the owner.

In the process I've even lost interest for half the shit they owe me, I just want my mp primal from them, everything else can rot for all I care

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Is it only agnry old geewunners that are triggered by headmasters?

>>6349129
i bought a knock off from big lots years ago, was pretty cool. i dont know anything about the character though

>>6349123
Yeah it's weird. Not one shot of him so far in any of the promotion material. He is in >>6349118 though

>>6349132
I hate headmasters, but that is a cute~

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>>6349128
Yeah with some Samurai.
Which still
>Japanese robot
>German vehicle
There's a few bots we haven't seen much of. I just hope the WWI/II bots get some plastic love, especially Bumblebee.

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Really starting to want new Hound.

>>6349167
Snaptrap did nothing wrong.

>>6349250
Something seems off with the head, it's to big. And those feet are crap.

>>6349258
Also, the vehicle mode is straight up missing the upper back half.

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>>6349260
Good news.

>>6349258
His helmet comes off.

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>>6349250
i just know hasbro tried to one upped the KO by making real transforming tire-feet and fixed the proportion. gonna get him for their effort.

>>6349266
The helmet could still come off on a smaller head, maybe they made it bigger so kids wouldn't lose the helmet.

>>6349132
Geewunner here.
Headmasters are cute I'll admit, I only wish they gave the option to keep them attached in head mode when the robot body is in vehicle mode.
Other than that gripe, the toys are decent enough, though I only own Triggerhappy.

>>6349132
not with those colors

>>6349288
>I only wish they gave the option to keep them attached in head mode when the robot body is in vehicle mode
I guess I'll just never understand this. Does it really bother people so much that the head is a separate robot? I mean, there's even a canon explanation for why they're separate.

>>6349288

But they all have closed cockpits. You literally cannot lose the head if you just stuff it in the cockpits.

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>>6349266
>His helmet comes off.
Have we had any other helmetformers since the Pretenders?

>>6349334
Perceptor doesnt.

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>>6349334
I think it's more that some people are just really triggered by the head being a separate piece, especially on characters who are not canonically headmasters, I guess. I think a lot of old fans are still just irrationally angry at Headmasters for being the first major change to G1. A very old case of "not muh".

Meanwhile, I'm too busy having fun.

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>>6349370
>Meanwhile, I'm too busy having fun.

>>6348087
I still can't see anything but Torca from him

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>>6348958
Not counting the Choro-Q toy, that can be filed under "awesome things we'll never get because Transformers collectors care more about accuracy and canon than cool toys". I really wish there were another high-end Transformers toyline besides MP. I'd say we could fall back on retail stuff, but lately the geewunners have been getting flustered about EVERYTHING not being strictly G1-accurate.

>>6348979
I remember so many people were fucking butthurt over him being a Trueno and not a Porsche.

Speaking of things that we'll never get, I've always wanted a badass safari/rally version of MP Wheeljack

>>6348178
It's really not worth it. He is literally the size of a Legends

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>>6348418
>new cyberkeys
>still G1 only, no unicron trilogy

>>6349370
>especially on characters who are not canonically headmasters
the problem here is that they made the 86 movie cast with an added line gimmick AGAIN instead of actual headmaster characters like say, Sideways. But that's not G1, so we can't have that.

>>6349058
>>6349049

Don't forget that incredibly awkward half hour discussion about masturbation.

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>>6349414
Yeah, we should at least have gotten the Animated Headmaster as a Titan Master.

>>6349414
But Headmasters are G1.

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Apparently Combiner Wars was going to be way more G1 and simultaniously crazier. Seems they wanted the line to go on longer than it did looking at Trion and the Quintessons.

What's most suspicious was Emiliano Santalucia tagged it with #toydesign. Must have been before the Ward cut the budget.

>>6349495
that menasor is all i want...the one we got was kind of a mess.

Anyone knows if Deformation Robot Factory is really confirmed dead?
I found one of their listings from a while back and there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with it other than their store being completely empty but that listing still being around.

>>6349448
Crashbash/Cancer is practically already what a G1-styled Animated Headmaster would look like, sans horns.

Just paint the eyes yellow.

>>6349498
Wait 30 years when John Warden IV becomes the head designer.

>>6349495
>Star Seeker
It annoys me how Hasbro keeps pretending they give a shit about them when they only gave them one toy before cancelling their plotline in favor of the shitty TFP predacons.

>>6349498
They really should've dropped that mold and retool Hot Spot into Motormaster.

>>6348636

Ha. Weakling. I would do it in one second!

>>6348923
>does someone complaining about something you like affect you in any way?

Yes, that's kind of how human psychology works - if one of our peers vehemently expresses dislike or distaste for something we like, something inside us does react whether we want to or not.

Incidentally, your opinion is shit and reflects an abysmal misunderstanding of the '-Master' concept.

>>6349128

Really? Hound still has belt-fed ammunition on his arms when he's riding with Washington?

>>6349370
>especially on characters who are not canonically headmasters

I don't mind this complaint, and honestly this was something that originally turned me off from titans return as well, but it's a neat gimmick and no where near as intrusive as having quad-changing deluxes with giant pegs was in CW.

When people call it partsforming they have no fucking clue what bad partsforming really is.

>>6349542
>When people call it partsforming they have no fucking clue what bad partsforming really is.
By their definition, a weapon that stows away in either mode is partsforming.

>>6348645
Why do you try to make it sound like a bad thing, though? Paint looks better than bare plastic, and the paint that Hasbro uses on its retail shit is actually extremely durable. There doesn't need to be a reason for paint. It looks better than plastic. This is why most high-end toys get paint. This is why people paint models.

>>6349542
>it's a neat gimmick and no where near as intrusive as having quad-changing deluxes with giant pegs was in CW.
This. I wonder why people bitching about the TR gimmick is so much more prevalent than bitching about CW was. Combiner wars compromised each individual toy to facilitate combined modes that looked like shit and could barely pose or stand up. At least TR adds playability to each figure instead of diminishing it in the name of some autism-pleasing gimmick. Hey, at least people finally got their Menasor and Superion, though! TF collectors seem to be more about checking things off a list than actually wanting fun toys.

>>6349574
>I wonder why people bitching about the TR gimmick is so much more prevalent than bitching about CW was

Trolling. Thats it. Stop responding to it.

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>>6349563
>Why do you try to make it sound like a bad thing, though? Paint looks better than bare plastic

That part is subjective at best. I do prefer bare plastic to paint when it comes to large sections of a toy. Take the MMC Not-Predacons for example, or TFC's Not-Seacons. They're mostly bare plastic, and they look damn nice. They have paint where it is appropriate: Detailings, some swaths that couldn't be solid plastic all the way through, etc.

In Brainstorm's case it's certainly odd the way he was painted, most of him could've easily been plastic cast in the right colors.

>>6349370
>Meanwhile, I'm too busy having fun.

Haha yeah I'm having fun with my Galvatron t-

oops, I can't even turn his head

>>6348409
I'll check results in a few hours.
Don't let it be a tie.

>>6349542
>>6349574
>and no where near as intrusive as having quad-changing deluxes with giant pegs was in CW.

not really. With CW you can ignore the gimmick entirely and it doesn't affect the toy. With TR you're forced to do it whenever you transform the toy.

Also CW at least MADE updated versions of all the 5 man vehicle based combiner teams in G1, which sort of justified all the non-combiner character retools. With TR meanwhile you have a handful of molds that Warden is using just using to fill his Rebirth wet dream instead of actually doing any of the Headmaster Juniors, or Snapdragon and Apeface.

The gimmick itself isn't that fun either, I only really enjoy it on Hardhead because he doesn't have that retarded hollowed out gun thing they like to do and the gimmick actually makes SENSE for someone to pilot his shoulder turret. On shit like Doublecross or Astrotrain it adds nothing to the toy and it's just pointless partsforming.

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>>6349639
>or Snapdragon and Apeface

Maybe we'll get'em in box sets? Failing that, theres always 3P's.

>>6349641
What are those things on Wolfwire's shoulders? Missiles?

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>>6349645

They look like guns to me.

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Speaking of Wolfwire, just pulled this guy out of the package.

Slave wages are too good for whatever chink assembled this.

>>6348005

Give it ankle tilts and swivels at the thighs and wrists, and it would more than make the grade for a modern release. Still damn good even as-is.

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>>6349517
Kind of, I guess?

>>6349641
The Wave 6 Voyagers are not announced yet, there is still hope.

>>6348237

Man, if you like TFs - any find of a mold you haven't messed with is worth checking out for half price! Can always trade/sell/return it if you don't like it.

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>>6349660

Speak of the devil, my hinge just cracked a bit on mine too. It's been fine since I got it months ago, too.

>>6349090

I don't know. Some shots like Prime sticking his sword through the construction guy's head are okay. A lot of the action is a mess though. The Bumblebee / Barricade fight is hard as hell to make any sense of.

But like what you like. (Just let others dislike what they dislike ~)

>>6349134
>i dont know anything about the character thoug

he is the sergeant

of ass

So what's the best way to clean shit off Transformers? I just ordered a lot for cheap but turns out the guy was degenerate and smoked inside so there's a gross film all over everything.

I've been soaking them in warm/lukewarm soapy water then brushing them with a toothbrush, drying them with paper towel, and sticking them in front of a dehumidifier. That's been working great but now there's some with electronics so the soak method isn't ideal. Should I just scrub them in that case?

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>>6349675
Oh god... this is a different shade but its on the same spectrum... oh god...

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>>6349687

Nah, it's not the plastic itself, it's the molding and tolerances. The plastic rings are a bit too thin on the yellow outer part and the metal pin might be a bit too big, and combined it causes them to crack. The red bits supposedly hold up, but they're a softer plastic.

Also a heads up for anyone/everyone, but Amazon has Legends Class TR Brawn's for MSRP (aka: $10 bux). Ordered one myself.

>>6349684

Soaking isn't very ideal anyway, as a lot of TF's use metal pins and you'll be making them rust if you soak'em like that.

>>6349660

Serves you right you prejudice fuck

>>6349306
>I mean, there's even a canon explanation for why they're separate.
And it's stupid.

Are there any decent quality kos of MP Shock/Laserwave?

Is Titans Return Sixshot good? He and Kickback are the last of the wave 3 guys I need still.

>>6349760
>tfw no post-wave 1 Leaders in New Zealand

>>6349740
>tiny dudes that want to be more formidable build large vehicles that transform into robot bodies that they form the head of
>stupid
Geewunners in a nutshell. Everything that isn't from the firsr two seasons of the cartoon is stupid.

>>6349696
God now I'm just having flashbacks of that guy who dropped his MP Wheeljack in the toilet...

So combiners, the headmasters...
Whats next? Pretenders or Micromasters?

>>6349800
I really hope it's what >>6348411 said and John Warden is joshing people with that Skylanders bullshit.
Though then people would bitch about Hot Rod not being made in that line.

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The gimmick should be that they are all suddenly humans

and it's just action figures of dudes

and this is a backdoor for the return of GI Joe

yeah

>>6349639
>With CW you can ignore the gimmick entirely and it doesn't affect the toy
>people actually think this
The gimmick of CW caused a line-wide decrease in quality. All transformations were incredibly simplified and cookie-cutter, and it facilitated endless repaints. Just because the gimmick wasn't as apparent as a removable head doesn't mean that it didn't affect the toys. The CW line would have never seen toys as clever as Topspin, Kup or Triggerhappy with the compromise of needing to combine. Not in a million years.

>>6349821
Only works if they're LC, and by then if they have a new Optimus mold, they should have Peter Cullen as the human likeness.

>>6349821
>transformers that don't transform

>>6349832
Given the giant ball-ache that transformations cause among the core of the collectors through paint scratching, limiting articulation and accuracy, and general compromise, I think non-Transforming toys are the way to go for most geewunners

>>6349337
Classics Jetfire and the CW Leader class had masks/helmets

>>6349825
You people realize that combiners are better off with simple transformations, right?
3P combiners have a thousand steps from one mode to the other and they are both a bore to transform and mediocre at combining. Sixty fucking dollars combiner limbs that can't even scramble or that look like shit or that just aren't limbs are too common in 3P to be asking of HasTak to follow their failures as an example.

My only complaint with CW was the ridiculous amount of idiotic repaints and lazy retools and how ugly some molds were, but for a line of fully articulated modern combiners aimed at retail it wasn't bad at all.

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>>6349608
>prefer bare plastic to paint

You're either insane or a contrarian troll, but either way, you're a fucking credit to the TF fandom.

>>6349848
The argument here is not about what's best for combiners. The argument is that the gimmick of CW negatively affected the individual toys. Which it did.

This is justifying the compromises of CW because "muh combiners" while condemning the gimmick of headmasters just because it's not canon to most robots, despite the fact it has facilitated more creative toys than we've seen in retail for years.

>>6349852
Anon, where have you been? Paint is the devil.

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What do you guys think of this configuration? I'm not sure yet.

>>6349857
It really only affected a couple of molds (lambor mold, tank mold, truck mold, pickup mold) every other mold was fine and holds up even outside of the team.

What was really shitty about CW was how some figures weren't even acceptable representations of some characters, mold fatigue, and how the retoolings prevented us from getting recreations of some of the G1 transformation schemes that were interesting like Streetwise's.

>>6349868
Interesting, but needs more dakka

>>6349868
Looks pretty cool.

You trying to make a specific character with it?

>>6349876
Just trying to bulk up Broadside and do something with those useless wings.

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>>6349868
>those holes on the shoulder pieces
Fucking christ. I'm waiting for all the voyagers to go on clearance where I am. No way I'm paying for this bullshit.

>>6349879
You planning to nuke the plane mode?

>>6349880
Those aren't actually part of the shoulders. They're used for other modes where the hollow areas are facing inside of the altmodes anyway

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>>6349872
I got your dakka right here senpai

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>>6349884

>>6349696
The metal pins and screws used for most TFs are galvanized, they can resist some moisture. Spring pins ("hollow pins") will rust though, they are found in higher end toys.

Really wish there was a way to get some spare Legends Kup arms.
It's the only beef I have with Hasbro Kup, it doesn't have that Metropolis-ass look to it with those shitty square arms.

>>6349884
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGH I DONT NEED THEM

>>6349884
Why did you show this to me? Now I will want them. I skipped them both because I wanted to get them far in the future when the Takara versions come out now I might want to get the Hasbro just to do that.

>>6349250
It looks like a Fast Action Battler and it's revolting

>>6349448
I think we should have gotten a purple cerebros w/ different faceplate, how cool would that have been?

>>6349946
Would have been pretty gay. Let Animated stay dead and buried.

>>6349946
Eh, then you could only use it with Fort Max.

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>>6349852
"I was particular about constructing it using the colours of moulded parts. You will notice it when you see the actual item. This is not only because of the cost, but I also wanted it to be a toy that you can play with freely without worrying about chipping the paint."

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>>6349946
I think a Headmaster toy would work pretty well as a TM Vehicle set. Like you have a vehicle mode that's basically just a skull that you can slot a TM into to give it a face, and the "vehicle" is designed to grab onto various shapes and sizes of heads so you can use it on pretty much anything. And I guess it would also have to turn into a gun or something else too.

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At what point does g1 accuracy hurt a toy rather than add to it's appeal? Can a toy be too g1?

I doubt anyone cares, but I just realized RID Skywarp actually has two nice Decepticon symbols tampo'd onto his wings, so he's one of the very few RID figures that still have faction symbols if you decide to peel off the sticker.

>>6349964
Or they could just use better paint and clearcoat. Just a thought.

One last hour.
pls vote thank you

http://www.strawpoll.me/13063796

>>6349973
I don't think this is a good example of "too G1". Omega's model wasn't very derpy and FT's execution is pretty great. If this was "too G1" his face would be enormous, both arms a little smaller and the thighs would be nearly the same thickness as the legs.

>>6349973
See things like this seem like examples of when you actually try to make the G1 design work a little better. That's cool.

I'm not really sure how the hell it transforms without it being dumb, though, because just looking at the cartoon transformation makes it look like you have to straight up take stuff off to make some sense of it.

>>6349973
>Can a toy be too g1?
Judging by the last handful of MP figures, I'd say so.

>>6349973
When they start sacrificing aesthetics and engineering for obsessive geewun accuracy rather than doing what works, what might work better, or making slight stylistic changes that are still wholly based off the originals and would satisfy people anyway. They don't need to be slavishly accurate to g1 for it to be good.

>>6349984

FT 20 just comes to pieces and reassembles as the alt mode. There's no other way to do it. The animation model did the same thing.

>>6349979
Who is Bendy?

I hate picture requests but could anyone do me a favor if you own the figures?

How does CW Ultra Magnus look next to TR Galvatron?

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>>6350000
Probably the best deluxe toy that Hasbro could make in 2002.

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>>6350000
he was an armada prime in the deluxe size class that had better articulation than anything else in the line

>>6350011
>>6350012
Ohh. Bendy Prime!

Sure, do it. Those smokestacks don't really do much anyway besides fall off.

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>>6350008
There you go

>>6349973
>At what point does g1 accuracy hurt a toy rather than add to it's appeal?

When they try to make it 2+ fucking feet tall to make it scale with other MP figures.

>>6350018
damn that was fast, thank you so much! Looks close enough to me!

>>6350019

Aren't hastak titan figures 20+ inches?

>>6348182
Flea markets rule for finding spychangers, there's always one or two in the gigantic hot wheels bins you find there.

Of course you do kinda have to put your hands in a massive bin of hot wheels at a flea market, which is comparable to sticking your hands in an open, rotting animal carcass hygiene-wise.

>>6350030

There is a difference between making something 2ft tall because it is a play set for kids, and making something 2ft tall and cost like $600 because it needs to be in scale with an adult collectable line.

>>6349069
some suit probably said they needed more autobots in the line and someone with a sense of humor made blastwave as a wave-filler

it's pretty funny, honestly. i appreciated the absurdity of the whole thing enough to get blastwave over bludgeon.