fashion/other doll thread

Vina as Orion Star Trek doll. Actually from summer 2016, but for sale on the Barbie Collector website now.

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Just a reminder that we will never get a decent looking live action Belle doll.
Even Hot Toys couldn't pull it off.

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This better than a lot of movie Belle dolls.

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>>6299080
forgot pic, oops

>>6299233
Yes but those dolls you are talking about sell for $13 to $35 while the upcoming Hot Toys version will sell for well over $200. For that kinda of money they could have done better.

>>6299218
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>>6299224

They should stop trying to do photorealism with their live action dolls.
Unless they start casting really flawless 10/10 actress like Audrey Hepburn or Grace Kelly.

>>6300169
>10/10 actress like Audrey Hepburn or Grace Kelly.

Not gonna happen. Dead actresses don't bring in the dosh like flavor of the month nerd movie.

Paradoxically, A Barbie Collector version of Hepburn or Kelly would do good. Both actresses have a broad name recognition. Mattel can crank out the dolls en masse to be cheap enough for normie collectors. And they can easily be sold in B&M stores.

Hot Toys is far more niche. Their prices and production count turn off all but the most hardcore & rich customers. And while your grandma doll collector knows Grace Kelly, she doesn't know her Iron Man Mk. 23 from Iron Man. Mk. 38.

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New Wonder Woman gift set.

I think Steve's thousand yard stare is unsettling and the outfit Diana's wearing is really boring. Not worth the $125 in my opinion.

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>>6300658

And just for contrast, the mass market 2 figure set for $30 at most stores...

I don't think cloth pants & shoes for Steve really justifies the extra $95.

>>6300674
I like the collector set a lot more. The clothing on the $30 set (which isn't regular doll sized) is blah.

>>6300674
>Steve Trevor ''figure''
kek, it's a doll

>>6300972
Doll or figure, what is the difference?

>>6300987
Marketability to boys.

>>6300997
Reminds me of when I buy dildos online and the delivery description says "sculptures".

>>6300972
It's should be called a action doll.

>>6301028
cock sculptures, that tickles the throat.
>>6300658
Anyone know if mattel just might cheapen out and recycle the Star Trek Chris Pine doll for this one? I can tell they have the special Wonder Woman body from last time for this piece, but will Steve's body be as articulated for that price?
When are all the deluxe wonder woman dolls meant to roll out and where? I never saw the BVS Wonder woman in regular stores except for an HEB.

>>6300935

IMHO, I like the $30 set more.

I prefer cheapo Steve's facesculpt as the collector's version looks a bit samey to a generic Ken doll head. I also like cheapo Steve's outfit compared to the collector's drab green outfit. But those damn molded on pants makes it a moot point. Maybe if I could find a spare Fashionista Ken body to transfer cheap Steve's head onto...

As for Wondy, it's mostly a choice between sculpt vs. articulation. The collector's version has an articualted MTM body, which is nice. However, the cheap Wondy has the all-new muscular female body buck, which is a far better fit for an amazon. It's really unlike any fashion doll body Mattel has put out since. Again, the collector's headsculpt is too doll-like. Cheapo's clothing is cheap, which is the only major downside I can see. But she does come with a sword!

Yeah, I really can't see me paying four times as much money for the collector's set when the standard 2-pack is just as good. For just about the same amount as the collector's version I can get the standard 2-pack AND Mr. Crystal Cavern King in OP's pic to play with my new Amazon princess.

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>>6301074
Sculpt looks different to me.

>>6301074
>When are all the deluxe wonder woman dolls meant to roll out and where?

Supposedly WW herself is already out since the 5th of April. The Queen and the archer gal are to be out by May 1st. The Steve Trevor 2-pack will be out by June 2nd. Of course, these are release dates, so your mileage may very if you're hunting them down in the stores.

Speaking of stores, I would look for them online first, TRU second.

>>6300658
In the last thread someone linked an article about the ever dropping Barbie sales...

But look no further than this: Literally aimed at "collectors", likely adults, with a MTM body and simple clothes for a price tag of 125. It's laughable, are they expecting adults to consider each of these meadiocre dolls worth about 62 so they can keep on realying in profiting and paying licenses for mediocrely done dolls?!

Cause it's Mattel + Barbie + Wonder Woman, so I'm sure nobody will resist this amazing set, hm?!

Gotta LOL reading at Papusilemele's facebook someone pointing how WW is the new Dorothy at Barbie.

Already so many uninteresting variations of them.

>>6299312
>made to move articulation
>but no ankle joints

why, mattel?

>>6301166
>the new Dorothy at Barbie.

Dorthy who? Of Oz fame? I don't get this. Please explain.

>>6302138
Mattel was/is? constantly making Dorothy dolls.

>>6300658
>$125
You have to be retarded to pay that. It's worth $30 at most.

>>6301142
I've yet to see the wonder woman movie collector doll out - it must be bought up fast or they dont have a set up. They still have the BVS one at the place i went to buy it cause no one else wanted to spend 40 to 50 on it. My Tru also has the BVS one but it's pretty banged up - and it's not marked down still.
>>6301121
Was more a joke on Mattel wanting to cheapen out stuff...
>>6301166
It is def starting to feel like it - but it reminds me of how Marvel characters are getting new figures every new movie. You can pick up a piece that has a SLIGHTLY different outfit. Mattel is going whole hog cause they have Wondie in a number of things - the movie and their DC teen series.

>>6301109
I really do like the cheapy Wonder Woman dolls they have out atm - the brawn is extremely beautiful to me. In fact - with the blue dress one - i was amazed at how i felt this was an extremely sexy doll for what it is.

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KuuKuu Harajuku fashion packs are up on Amazon.

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>>6300658
If the Steve actually looked like Chris Pine, I would totally pay that $125, seeing how no toy producer has yet managed to make a toy to his likeness.

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The What Americans® Think Japanese People Dress Like Collection Of Ill Proprotioned Dolls™

>>6303135
why is she fucking cosplaying a prawn sushi, do they think fashionable american teens dress like they are burgers and fries

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>>6304473
There actually was a burger dress in the cartoon.

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>>6301109
Really? I can actually see Chris Pine in the Collector one, the cheap set just looks like a random male.

The collector one foes look a bit generic Ken doll, but Chris looks like a generic Ken doll. The cheek bones are too defined on the cheap one, the chin also looks too pointy.

>>6305525
The chin, eyes, and hairline are off on the collector doll but it's nothing a little paint can't fix.

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>>6303402
>>6305525

It doesn't look like Chris Pine because Matty deliberately sculpted the face to NOT look like Chris Pine.

Big time celebrity charge big bucks to have their faces on something, like a doll or action figure, even if it's part of a movie like WW. Chris Pine's agent got him a stipulation that he'd get a royalty fee for every thing that has his face on it connected to the WW movie.

So to skirt around paying this fee, Matty made both the cheap & collector tier Steve Trevors to look vaguely like Chris Pine, but not enough that could get sued for it. It's also probably why the two Steves' head sculpts are so different. Rather than have one movie accurate Chris Pine head for both, two different sculptors in two different doll departments sculpted two different vaguely Pine-ish heads.

Pic related. Hasbro was willing to pony up the royalty cash for GoT2 accurate Pine head.

>>6305803
You do realize that it's Chris PRATT who plays Star-lord, right

They don't even look alike at all

>>6305908

Oh fuck me. I suck cocks.

Star Lord was popping up when I was googling "Chris Pine figure". Thought it was the same guy as they're both sandy blond hunks and I don't know my celebrities from my asshole. I need to read People magazine more.

Sorry. I fucked up royally.

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More Mattel quality on the General Antiope doll. Also, her top is molded on.

>>6306513
A molded on top for a 50 dollar doll??? I know that the first wonderwoman collectable had a tight top - but i think you could still rip it off.

>>6306544
Yep, there are pictures of the Wonder Woman doll nude.

>>6306544
I heard it had to be peeled off with a knife. Would the top even be reusable after that?

>>6306866
There are two people who posted about taking the bodice off, and i cant find the first post mentioning they did it. The people said you would need to reglue or use glue to get it to stick on. The only other post that mentions it looks more like they took the head off the Wonder Woman doll and placed a different head on the same body.
>>6306513
I'm hoping it is similar to the wonder woman - that is's a super tight piece.

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Gabby Douglas Barbie

>>6309567

Literally who?

Whatever she's done, I'm sure that she's strong, independent, and don't need no man.

>>6309875
I don't know who she is either. I guess she was posted because we were getting close to the diversity portion of the thread .

See these past post for reverence...
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>>6310002
As long as we're on the subject I think this Bratz doll was cute, and I would have enjoyed adding her to my collection. Sadly the line got canceled before I could get her. The ones in these packs were kinda pricey.

>>6310002
>I guess she was posted because we were getting close to the diversity portion of the thread .

She was posted because the doll just came out.

>>6309875
She's a gold medalist in gymnastics.

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>>6310087

And yet Mary Lou Retton, who did more for women's athletics, never got a doll, even in the 80's.

>>6310141
And...?

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>>6310153
I think that what he's trying to say is pretty obvious. He's saying that the only reason she got a doll made of her while other more iconic people have been over looked throughout the years is for the same reason Pepsi recently did that Kendall Jenner tv ad that got pulled. He's saying that the only reason Mattel made the doll is because they are pandering to the SJW community that's still mad that they didn't get their first feminist president Hilary doll. Just like Pepsi, Mattel is releasing a product for the vegan Hipsters that jizz at the sight of diversity in the doll aisle.

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>>6310153

So why is random gymnast getting a doll when the most famous American gymnast never got a doll?

And why her and not some other female athlete, like Venus & Serena Williams? There's alot of gold medalist females out there that are more inspiring than some petite bar swinging tart. Have you not heard of Sarah Robles and her story to be the best American female heavyweight weightlifter?

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>>6310245
Oh. If so, what a dumb thing to say. She's getting a doll because for the past few years Mattel has created OOAK collector dolls based on modern women who are breaking boundaries in various mediums (sports, ballet, directing, etc) and the dolls which get the most requests and petitions are those that get wider releases.

>>6310256
>why is a random gymnast
>random gymnast
>member of the Fierce Five
>won gold at the 2016 summer Olympics
>first African American in Olympic history to ever become individual all-around champion
>first American gymnast to win gold in all-around and team competition at the same games

Mary Lou Retton was well-known in the 1980s. The concept that the Gabby Douglas doll was originally created for is for contemporary women doing stuff... right now. And as for "But why not _____"? There are thousands of women who aren't getting dolls, so I don't see the point in whining about so and so not getting a Pink Label doll.

>And why her and not some other female athlete, like Venus & Serena Williams?

Because Gabby Douglas is more popular with little girls than Venus and Serena Williams, and because Gabby Douglas just did all of this in 2016. When they released the OOAK Gabby Douglas doll last summer, Mattel got flooded with requests for them to make it available for purchase.

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>>6310259

And what boundaries did Gabby Douglas break when Mary Lou Retton broke them over thirty years ago? Hell, look at Mary Lou today. She's a total fit milf and still has that trademark smile. Will Gabby look as good in thirty years? I think not.

>>6310279
>And what boundaries did Gabby Douglas break
>>first African American in Olympic history to ever become individual all-around champion
>first American gymnast to win gold in all-around and team competition at the same games

The line is for people who are breaking boundaries in contemporary society, not 30 years ago.

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>>6310277

No, Gabby won most of her individual medals in the 2012 London games. Simone Biles was the individual American gold medalist winner in the 2016 Rio games. Simone is more recent Olympic gymnast winner and she set an American record for most gold medals in women’s gymnastics at a single Olympic game.

Why isn't the most recent gymnast champ and Olympic record breaker getting a doll? Is it because her face is not as pretty as Gabby's or something?

>>6310291

So she's getting a doll because of the color of her skin and not because of her achievements? Das racist bro.

>>6310294
>Why isn't the most recent gymnast champ and Olympic record breaker getting a doll?

Because Mattel already made a Gabby Douglas doll in summer 2016 before she headed to the 2016 Olympics, at which point she was already popular with little girls, having broken records at the last games when she was only 16 years old. When they released the OOAK doll, people freaked and flooded Mattel with requests to make her available for purchase. It would have been dumb for them to turn around and make a Simone Biles doll instead. As for why Gabby and not Simone... why Misty Copeland and not Michaela DePrince? Why Emmy Rossum and not Pink? Why Trisha Yearwood and not Shania Twain? There's a million reasons why Mattel makes the choices they do. Marketability, visibility, willingness to release appearance rights, etc.

>>6310299
>So she's getting a doll because of the color of her skin and not because of her achievements? Das racist bro.

She's getting a doll because she's a woman who broke boundaries. If you have a problem with people recognizing that black athletes, black dancers, black directors, etc, are breaking boundaries then maybe you should find a different thread.

Funny that you didn't have a problem with a white woman getting a doll because of her gender, tho.

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>>6310256
>Sarah Robles
I wouldn't mind if they released a doll of this woman, and sent it to every toy store world wide in that exact same pose. I believe she and >>6309567 doll
should be under every childs Christmas tree this Holiday season. It would be totally fetch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0G-7TvC4Ho

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>>6310279
>waaaaah wahhhhhhh WAAAAAAHHHHHH
Also
>Will Gabby look as good in thirty years? I think not.
Everyone knows black don't crack

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>>6310321

What boundaries? There have already been African-American gymnasts who won medals in past Olympics, such as Dominique Dawes and Betty Okino.

And what about Amy Chow, who is certainly the first and so far only Asian-American gold medal gymnast in the Olympics. Why hasn't she gotten a doll if she broke the boundaries of her race?

And let's not forget Gabby's fellow teammate, Laurie Hernandez, who is the first Latin-American on the team and won a silver. Where's this boundary breaker's doll? Or does no one care that you broke a racial boundary if you came in second?

Giving Gabby a doll simply because of her skin pigmentation and won a gold medal is pretty damned racist. Especially when you ignore gymnasts like Chow & Hernandez who broke boundaries in their own respective races.

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>>6310331

FUN FACT: Sara Robles was born with Madelung's deformity, which means her wrists are severely crooked. This leads her to have excruciating pain every time she lifts, bro.

And yet weightlifting is her life. She won an Olympic medal doing it. And she's a heavyweight, meaning she's lifting 300+ lbs. All while in pain at the most delicate part of your body while lifting.

Now that's damned motivational! But we're never going to get an inspirational doll of her because she's fat, ugly, and not the first Olympic winner of her skin tone.

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>>6310360
>Everyone knows black don't crack

Maybe. But not even Naomi Campbell can escape the horror that is older black women baldness.

>>6310370
>What boundaries

Again... since you can't read:

>first African American in Olympic history to ever become individual all-around champion
>first American gymnast to win gold in all-around and team competition at the same games

>Amy Chow

She competed in 1996 and 2000. That's 17 and 21 years ago. Not contemporary enough to the target market.

>Dawes and Betty Okino

Competed years and years ago. Not contemporary enough to the target market.

>Laurie Hernandez

She won in August 2016. The original Gabby Douglas Barbie was premiered in July 2016, before they went to the games. This announcement included a video campaign and was, at minimum, 6 months in the making.

Again, the line is for contemporary women who are breaking boundaries in recent/contemporary memory. The line is not all-encompassing women throughout history. Which would be cool, because god damn I want a

Gabby has a doll because she's a contemporary gold medal winning Olympic gymnast who broke boundaries and is popular with children and pre-teens, whom Mattel is targeting with their Pink Label releases from the broader Sheroes line. Mattel isn't ignoring these other women, they just don't fit the concept of this line.

Now before you go "BUT WHAT ABOUT __________" remember

-The Sheroes line is for contemporary women who are breaking boundaries in contemporary society and, on a broader scale, who are associated with or actively do work related to empowering women.
-The Sheroes line is usually OOAK except for the dolls that get the most requests/purchasing buzz, in which case they make it to a wider release. Both Misty Copeland and now Gabby Douglas dolls are Pink Label, since people complained when Mattel made the Ava DuVernay doll for sale only as Platinum Label, so less than 1000 pieces worldwide.
-The dolls which are released Pink or other Label for sale, rather than OOAK, need to be contemporary and marketable enough to the target market.

>>6310433
>Which would be cool, because god damn I want a

god damn I want a Ada Lovelace Barbie*

although I googled and there is a Madame Alexander doll, though I'd rather have a Barbie in historical fashion.

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>>6310389
I didn't know any of this. Well, good for her. I can respect her spirit.

>But we're never going to get an inspirational doll of her because she's fat, ugly, and not the first Olympic winner of her skin tone.

This actually kinda sucks.

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>>6310433
>for contemporary women who are breaking boundaries in contemporary society
"Congrats Gabby. You did something 5 years ago that no black woman has done in 20 years. And fuck you Simone, for doing the exact same thing a year ago.

>This announcement included a video campaign and was, at minimum, 6 months in the making.
So it's not how good you are, but how good your PR team is. Gotcha.

>because god damn I want a
Thank goodness your overlords censored that wrong think!

>Mattel isn't ignoring these other women, they just don't fit the concept of this line.
Because they're either too fat, too ugly, or too old. Only pretty people should be rewarded for breaking records.

>Misty Copeland
Who? And yes, I just googled her. She's a ballet dancer who's more famous for being a "first" for her skin color rather than her talent.

>Ava DuVernay
Another "who?" and another "first" for her skin pigment. I'm seeing a trend...

>need to be contemporary and marketable enough to the target market.
IE: Young & pretty girls in the headlines only please. Matty cares more about money and virtue signaling than actually promoting notable women.

Meanwhile, Dr. Mae C. Jemison, first AA woman in space, has done more to help humanity with her Nasa work, Peace Corps work, and nine doctorates than the three named trollops in the athletics & entertainment fields. Oh, and Mae is also an accomplished dancer & actress. So there's there's that.

But does this uber-woman who's breaking the boundaries in important "boys only" STEM fields is getting a doll? Nooo! More ballerinas & gymnasts, because little girls prefer that. How fucking sexist is that? Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining, Matty.

>>6310525
So basically

>wah wah wah I've been told how the line works and I'm just going to complain about it11!!!!!

And oh yes, I'm so sure you knew aaaaaaallllllllll about Mae Jemison and wouldn't be saying "literally who?" if she had a doll made.

>>6310525
>the three named trollops in the athletics & entertainment fields

Interesting that you don't think Mary Lou Retton isn't a trollop, but the black athletes are. Gee, what could the difference be? Could it be that you're a racist fuck shitting up this thread? I wonder!

>>6310555
>You don't think she IS a trollop.

God, your faggotry is affecting my brain now. Please stop posting.

>>6310525
>Who? And yes, I just googled her. She's a ballet dancer who's more famous for being a "first" for her skin color rather than her talent.
>Who?
>documentary film
>multiple books
>wide press coverage
>works with charities and children's organizations to help black dancers who often struggle financially and otherwise with ballet

If Jemison got a doll before Misty Copeland, you'd be saying "Who?" to Jemison.

>another "first" for her skin pigment. I'm seeing a trend...

Yes... that's the point. I'm so glad you understood that Mattel is celebrating black women who break boundaries! Copeland was promoted to principal about a year too early IMO, but her recent performances are fine and in some cases exceptional (her Juliet is one of the best at the American Ballet Theatre) and her success is hugely inspirational to young black dancers who often feel as if they shouldn't bother pursuing ballet because of their race. If you're a racist, then yeah, I can see why you'd have a problem with Mattel celebrating that.

Who knows? Maybe Mattel will do a Jemison doll. In fact, they've actually included and celebrated Jemison in an recent official Barbie video as part of their You Can Be Anything campaign. But the fact is: Mattel is a company. So, yes, they are going to do a ballet doll and a gymnast doll based on popular celebrities that children admire and look up to, guaranteeing sales, before others.

>>6310245
The sad thing is Mattel keeps trying to market to millenials and kids by trying to please media hipsters without realizing that they aren't even 1% of Americans, despite owning 99% of big websites. I wish Mattel would focus on making the best dolls instead of chasing gimmicky fashion designers and BuzzFeed's favorite celebrities of the week. But at least this doll will make a lot of little girls happy after it ends up $8.99 on Amazon. Me too, I'll buy several for the bodies.

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>>6310552
>>6310555
We were having a fine civil discussion until you jumped to conclusions, started projecting your own ignorance of Mae & Mary Lou, and then called me a racist. Because calling people a racist means you win the discussion.

>>6310579
>If Jemison got a doll before Misty Copeland, you'd be saying "Who?" to Jemison.
Jemison has done actual work that has helped humanity as a whole. Peace Corps, Nasa, STEM, etc. Misty is a dancer who entertains. Why is the entertainer getting a doll over the woman who helped the world?

And that's my main argument right there! It ain't about the skin color. It's about who has done more and affected people more. Just look at what professions these "sheroes" have:
>A gymnast.
>A ballerina.
>A director.
All have inconsequential jobs that are attractive to little girls. Them being the first to do something because of their skin tone is secondary to that. Matty knows girls won't buy science lady, despite the big push to get girls into STEM fields. Matty hides that fact by promoting that these entertainers are the first in their respective fields, thus giving Matty an excuse to sell what little girls really want and a nice virtue signalling to boot.

Matty doesn't care about inspiring girls or celebrating women who really achieved something at the end of the day. They just care about money.

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Oh, and for a good contrast on the boy's side of the toy aisle, there's the GI Joe Historical Collections.

These were made back in the 1/6 scale Joe's heyday. From the late 90's to early 2000's. Lots of important and brave people were made. Famous guys like John F. Kennedy, Patton, Teddy Roosevelt, and Washington. And also some not-so famous guys like Francis Pierce, John Fox, and Mitchell Paige. All Medal of Honor recipients.

Take good Ol' Ernie Pyle here. He's an old guy that most kids never heard of. No cool gun. Just a typewriter. And Hasbro had the balls to sell him at brick n' mortar stores for $20. All the Historical Collection figures were available for kids to buy at stores. Not web exclusive, and not under a "adult collectors" label, which Matty is doing with their "Sheroes" line.

It's like Hasbro cared more about introducing boys to real-life role models from our past than Matty cares about introducing girls to whatever pretty faced woman makes headlines today.

>>6310905
I think Matty shits its pants in glee every time they find a "safe" modern celebrity they can use. But I am kind of surprised they didn't license some gold label Hamilton dolls. That was peak megahype last summer. They could have sold them in-theater, anybody walking in the door is already full of cash. Now there's been the inevitable controversy, so it can never happen.

>>6310921
>It's like Hasbro cared more about introducing boys to real-life role models from our past than Matty cares about introducing girls to whatever pretty faced woman makes headlines today.
>whatever pretty faced woman makes headlines

I love how you have to diminish these athlete's accomplishments to make yourself feel better. Never mind that one is a multiple gold medal winning athlete, she's just a ~~pretty faced trollop~~. Nevermind that both are inspirational to young girls, nevermind that both carry the message that you can be anything, that hard work and dedication can result in success. Just black trollops, according to you.

>GI Joe Historical Collections
>Historical Collections

By jove, it's almost like it was a line aimed at producing historical figures--which the Sheroes line isn't! It's almost as if... they're two separate lines with separate purposes. Holy shit. I'm stunned that they produced different dolls.

>Not web exclusive, and not under a "adult collectors" label, which Matty is doing with their "Sheroes" line.

Gabby Douglas and Misty Copeland aren't web exclusives. Barbie's Pink Label is the lowest collector label priced low ($24-30) and in both cases, Mattel's target market for the dolls are children who are inspired by these two athletes.

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I'll be visiting an American Girl store for the first time soon to pick up something for my niece, I checked out the prices online and damn! No wonder my parents wouldn't buy me the dolls when I was little. I did get some sick paper dolls, at least.

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>>6310978
I love the AG store. Enjoy it, anon. I'm heading out on Saturday... Either going to get Maryellen's play outfit, strawberry outfit, or her adorable new swimsuit I think.

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>>6310973
>I love how you have to diminish these athlete's accomplishments
Why are you diminishing those who sacrificed their lives and changed the course of history by comparing them to a person who's just really good at gymnastics?

>that hard work and dedication can result in success.
And according to you in >>6310433
a PR team that puts your name in the news. Sara Robles also worked hard for her weightlifting medal. Don't see Matty, let alone anyone else recognizing her hard work.

>Just black trollops, according to you.
Who brought up Mae Jemison as a better role model for girls? Who brought up Simone Biles, Amy Chow, Dominique Dawes and Betty Okino who made more important inroads in gymnastics for American minorities? Me. Not you. Screaming "racist!" doesn't automatically win the argument for you anymore.

>historical figures--which the Sheroes line isn't!
So Gabby, Misty, and Ava's accomplishments AREN'T historical? Well, glad that you agree with me on that. So what's your argument again? Oh yeah, that I'm a racist for wanting better role-models.

>Gabby Douglas and Misty Copeland aren't web exclusives.
I haven't seen them in stores and a quick look on google shows that they're sold only at Wal-Mart & target on their web sites. Sure, maybe they're on the shelves of FAO Schwartz or some fancy doll collector store, but not on the shelves where common people can get at them.

>Barbie's Pink Label is the lowest collector label priced low ($24-30)
>children who are inspired by these two athletes.
So are they "adult collectibles" as most of the Barbie collector lines are labeled or are they overpriced little girl's Barbies? Can't have it both ways. If I was a mom buying my little girl a flexible Babs, a MtM Barbie is far cheaper than some "adult collectible" that's twice as expensive. And as a adult collector, wouldn't I rather have more important historical female figures instead of the latest news feed celebrity, which you agreed with me in >>6310448

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>>6310978
I always wanted Felicity. I like the 2005 revamp meet dress the best. The new one looks frumpier and it doesn't come with a free shift.

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>>6310978
I wish Scholastic had actually went ahead with the Dear America doll line outside the limited/few they did. But I guess it was too similar to American Girl.

>>6311276

I've never even heard of these and I would have been over-the-moon for them as a kid. Most other 18" dolls though really pale in comparison to AG, something about their face always seems low-quality to me.

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>>6309567
>more pink
They couldn't have dressed her in her Olympic duds? And no medal?

>>6311532
Legally, no, because of trademarks.

>>6311680
They still could've done something in generic America colors and I know they've made dolls with Olympic medals in the past.

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>>6311692
They have before (this doll, the ice skater Barbie and Ken, Olympic gymnast, and Paralympic Becky) but they had to pay for it.

The Douglas doll is in her warm up suit not her Olympic team jacket. I don't know if she's ever worn pink Nike jackets specifically since all I can find on Google is white, but the jackets she designed for her partnership with Nike are pink. Personally I'm just shocked Mattel had her in the stars-and-stripes leotard and not the glittery pink one she wore at the 2012 games.

Although you know, after looking some things up, I'm wondering if Mattel had to tread certain lines because Madame Alexander did a "gold medalist Gabby Douglas" doll in 2012. They could have some type of contract where they're the ones allowed to make a doll based on "Olympic Medalist/Team USA" Gabby versus 'regular' gymnast Gabby. Or Mattel simply didn't want to have to pay to make a "Team USA" Becky so they avoided any medalist related accessories.

>>6310978
If I had the ability to wipe one doll line from existance it would be these over priced tacky pieces of shit. They really are hidious.

>>6311773
The concept is really cool but I've always thought the dolls themselves were on the ugly side. There's something unsettling about the faces.

>>6310946
What controversy you mean? The Mike Pence bullshit? I hardly think that counts as controversy does it?

>>6310946
>Now there's been the inevitable controversy, so it can never happen.

Huh? There are, what, 3 currently running productions of Hamilton with another on the way in the West End, ticket sales are as high as ever, and no controversy has impacted the show enough to affect whether or not dolls would get made.

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Does anyone here like Project MC2 ? There nice dolls but they don't seem to be popular.

>>6312263
I keep waffling on whether or not I want to buy one. They're pretty but I've heard the quality isn't the greatest.

>>6312263
>>6312464
I believe they have rooted lashes, at least the deluxe-ish ones do.

>>6312239
>>6312257
The only thing I know that has people up in arms about Hamilton is that how LMM made a rap musical about slaves and made Hamilton a hero even though he owned slaves.

That's only a controversy if it's something you care about. though.

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>>6312263
This is an odd thing to include with a doll. It looks like her drug needle. lol Yes, I know that's not what it is, but still the thought does cross my mind while looking at it. I wish my local stores would stock up on these dolls. I'd like to see them in person.

>>6312824
I don't think he himself ever owned them, but he definitely brokered the sale of them in his youth as a clerk and later on for his father-in-law.

Even besides that, Ham was way more elitist than the musical would have you believe, but that was true of basically every founding father (ironically, Burr was the one who wanted to give women the right to vote, among other things).

>>6312263
I like them but I don't buy the dolls.

>>6310389

Dude if we did get a doll of her the same person crying over the gabby doll would be crying over hers. They'd be butthurt a fat person got a doll and claim they only made her to cater to fat white sjws on tumblr. If you make ANY doll that isn't standard barbie it's somehow catering to sjws and must be complained about.

Get with the times bro.

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>>6317799

Rosie O'Donnell you're not fooling anyone. We all know this is you. Next time try being less obvious. I mean Reeeeeellly!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_8JyluqsRY

>>6318029
I was alive when it came out, and I'm still confused. Little kids didn't watch Rosie, it was store brand Oprah.

>>6310978
Have fun, anon. They were a huge part of my childhood so I hope it brings the same happiness to your niece.

Speaking of AG, who's everyone's favorite doll? I love Maryellen. Her hair is so lovely and her story is precious. I also have a soft spot for Kaya.

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>>6318052
poor foundation, desu

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>>6318029
>>6318052
>>6318883

Y'all niggas are forgetting the Mimi doll back when the Drew Carrey show was still on. While I'd like to have a Drew Carrey doll, that Mimi is just too hideous for words. And just now while I'm image searching...

>Fran Drescher doll
>Dennis Miller doll
>First Lady Hillary Clinton doll
>MC Hammer doll
>Dr. Laura doll
>Vanilla Ice doll
>Dennis Rodman doll

Damn, why was the 90's adult collector doll scene so based? Nowadays you can't have a celebrity doll sold at retail unless it's so girly & pink like >>6309567 to pander the most womanchild mindset collector.

>>6319045
>Damn, why was the 90's adult collector doll scene so based?

Because all of those dolls you listed sold terribly and resulted in financial loss?

>>6318883

I once saw a box of 25 of these at the thrift store but they were asking $75 each.

>>6318883
Does this mean Barbie is a dyke?

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>>6319045
>Hillary Clinton
>Vanilla Ice
>fucking Dennis Rodman

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>>6319231
Yes.

>>6319659
She looks so happy.

>>6319666

When is Babs ever unhappy?

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>>6319666
She has a great life

>>6319659
Lesbo barbie is cute, CUTE

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>>6319826
Oh, you say that now, but wait until Barbie gets a mullet haircut, dresses in flannel and starts playing softball.

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>>6319766
When she's judging your outfit.

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>>6303146

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>>6320010
What do you guys think of Kuu Kuu Harajuku Girls ? I think there coming out soon .

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>>6320012
I don't really care for the heads/faces but some of the clothes are cute and I'm curious as to whether or not they'll fit other dolls.

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>>6320016
>>6320012
>>6320010
Cross boarder from /cgl/ here.
They're decently cute but they rub me the wrong way because it's a complete bastardization of harajuku fashion. Literally looks absolutely nothing like it.
I don't know why western companies refuse to do research on this particular topic before jumping into a full project.

>>6320016
>>6320012
>>6320010
They almost look like La La Loopsies if they were flesh and blood instead of cloth.

>>6320069
It's because it's based off of Gwen Stefani and her back up dancers and their fashion circa 2004. Just watch her music video for "What You Waiting For?" and they resemble it still.

>>6319894
>florals? for spring? groundbreaking.

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there are also these little action figure versions of them?

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>>6320913

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>>6320917

>>6320913
Yeah when you see the figures its way more obvious this is base on Stefani's brand.

>>6321434
my thoughts exactly.

>>6321434
What do you mean? It's supposed to be over the top Gwen, it's based on her shit after all. These are meant to promote her, what would be the point if they didn't?

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the Disney Store "Tangled: the Series" dolls. Not to be confused with the Hasbro dolls for the same series.

>>6320010
>>6320012
>>6320016
Not a fan, they just seem so all over the place even for something harajuku themed

>>6319045
Back then, there were a lot of small toy companies, and a lot of independent stores willing to take some risks. Now the only way smaller companies can make any doll cash is to make generic knockoffs for a half dozen stores.

>>6322434
I need that Rapunzel doll with the frying pan in my life! How soft do you think that hair is? I need to find out!!

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Blush & Gold Cocktail dress Barbie, Gold Label. I'd love it except the sequins used for the top are way too huge. They needed to use mini sequins.

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Sneak peek at the 50th Anniversary Hair Fair Barbie, coming later this month

>>6322434
I like this much more than the classic doll Rapunzel, her face seems much more accurate to the character. I know she's based off of the new cartoon, but she definitely captures movie Rapunzel's sweetness better in my opinion.

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>>6323391
Wait.. Does this doll come with two extra Barbie wigs?

>>6324059
Yes, that's the doll's gimmick. 3 wigs to change.

>>6324076
It's only two wigs. The other hairstyle is the actual rooted hair with an accessory in it.

>>6324306
Ohh that's less appealing.. I wonder if the original vintage wigs will fit.

>>6322434
According to someone on Tumblr, a cast member at a store spilled the beans about a LE doll based on the TV series. They called to ask when they would get the Tangled TV series dolls in, and the employee said "The regular dolls or the limited edition?"

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>>6324380
They should, since the original Hair Fair head was sold the same way (rooted hair with accessories).

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Shoppie/

>>6323387
Yeah, mini sequins would have been better. Plus because of the size, they're not really distributed evenly. The gaps are so unappealing.

>>6324584

Yes. And?

>>6323387
I'm loving her bitchface.

>>6324442
Uuunnnf pleaseee be true, it's such a cute show and Rapunzel is my favorite princess I want her to get more love

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Has anyone brought Katana's doll yet ? If you have what do you think of her doll ?

>>6327021
I've been waffling on whether or not to pick up the latest three dolls. It really pisses me off that Mattel is already cutting corners with this line and I'm not sure I want to stay invested since it will only get worse.

>>6327021
Haven't seen her on the shelves yet. But she's an insta-buy when I do spot her. What two other dolls does she come with in this wave?

And how is Matty cutting corners in DCDHG? Yeah, there's a budget doll line and some stupid action feature dolls, but the main doll line still is quality.

>>6327200
>Haven't seen her on the shelves yet.
Katana is an Amazon exclusive.

>And how is Matty cutting corners in DCDHG?
Mattel has already started skimping on paint and fabric detailing, printing only the front of clothes, and nixing accessories.

>>6327279
>Katana is an Amazon exclusive.

Gawdammit. I didn't belive you. But I just checked and you're right.

Matty is dicking us around again. They could have made a WW or Supergirl or Batgirl variant an Amazon exclusive. BUT NOOOO! It has to be one of the main character debut doll! And one I really wanted since the line was announced.

I guess I could buy her from an ebay drop shipper, but half the fun of toy collecting is the thrill of randomly finding new toys on store shelves.

>>6326875
I can see them doing it, but at the same time the LE live action Belle dolls and the second LE Moana are still in stores.

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Is there any new Disney Princess Hasbro dolls ?

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>>6329764
Loads.

>>6329764
New basic ones? No. A bunch of different play themes (hair, dresses, bubbles, etc) and I think the Tangled Series dolls are coming soon.

>>6329785

I thought Hasbro was going to focus more on the non-white princesses. But then they put the whitest cracker bitches in this wave.

I mean, not even a token Jasmine doll?

>>6330221
>I thought Hasbro was going to focus more on the non-white princesses.

You believed them?

It took them a long time just to bother including more than one of the non-white princesses in the Little Kingdom line, and Mulan/Pocahontas/Tiana are just now getting their own solo figures.

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Been feeling kinda bummed for a while now that I couldn't afford these film collection Cinderella dolls when they were at the Disney store in 2015. Walked to my local thrift store today, and spotted both of them in their boxes for only $3 each. The store had a 10% discount going on so I got them both for under $6. I'm so happy right now.

>>6331144
Score! I've been kicking myself for not getting a Cinderella when I had the chance.

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>>6329764

The only Hasbro princes I own is this poseable Elsa doll which they are sadly retiring, and replacing with a very cheap reversible dress version which has almost zero articulation, and molded on clothing, yet costs the same. I bought the new reversible dress version because I was curious to see how the transforming gimmick worked, but returned it because the velcro was cheap, and wouldn't hold onto the dress in the back which messed up the whole point of the dolls gimmick. I had the Hasbro Mulan at one point, but returned her for the Disney Store version that comes with Mushu. I think their Pocahontas is also very pretty.

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The Gwen Stefani doll with the stage playset is up on Amazon.

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>>6331194
Shes been on my wish list for a while now, but at the prices shes sells for online she would have stayed on that wish list for a very long time. I have no clue whats going on with my local thrift store, but I'm finding a bunch of items that I had given up all hopes of ever owning. I also found these two Small World dolls. One was in her box, and priced at $4. The other one had no box, but, was in very good shape for $3. Their singing voices are very cute.

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>>6331218
That's a very cute set. It reminds me of a Britney Spears stage set I saw at Target once, but I sadly never got.

>>6330221
If you want them to you'll need to convince brown people to buy more dolls for their kids.

Someone was going to start one, but they didn't get around to it, so here goes. Doll discord https://discord.gg/yAbmjJn

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>>6331313
>Underrated post

To be fair I once spotted a black mom trying to push a black doll on her daughter at Kmart a few years back, but the little girl started screaming that she wanted the Holiday Hannah Montana doll. The mom looked disappointed, and tried once more before she gave up, and got her the Hannah Montana doll.

A few years later I saw a black mom trying to get her little girl hyped for a black princess frog doll, but the little girl stared crying "but I want Elsa". The mom said "but this one is pretty too. Look at the pretty dress." The little girl continued to cry "I want Elsa".

This year I saw a little boy trying to reach for a Trolls doll from the new movie which had brushable hair. His mom said "you don't want that" while the dad handed him a plush version of the same troll character. His mom said "The other one is more for girls. You don't want that". The boy accepted the plush toy, but even as they walked away his head wouldn't stop turning back to look at the Troll doll that he really wanted.

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>>6331354

>>6331386
Do kids not like black dolls or some thing ?

>>6331878
You see things all the time about how black/brown girls/moms push for black/brown dolls and that they're underrepresented but then you hear stories like >>6331386 where even when they have some options, they still go with preference regardless of skin color.

>>6331386
I relate to that. Even though I'm brown and lived in a poorfag third world country's town where TV and foreign media weren't a big thing; whenever we went to the city and wanted to buy a toy I always went for the white looking dolls. I was always fascinated to see someone who didn't look like everyday people I encountered with. In this case, it was the blonde/ginger Barbies

>>6331878
Yup. Clawdeen dolls are always the ones that shelf warm the worst in the MH section and I'm seeing the same with Bumblebee and Freddie for DCSHG and Descendants.

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>>6332038
>and Descendants.
I was looking at the Descendants doll section today at Walmart, and all they had in stock was Freddie. I've been waiting since before Christmas for Walmart to restock the 17" Barbie Endless Hair Kingdom dolls. They've had the same five black ones sitting on the shelf since October. I finally lucked out at Target last week. Target not only restocked, but they had them on sale from $24.99 to $17.99!

>>6331878
I like dolls of various colour nowadays because blonde Californian Barbies are boring after a while but I remamber when I was a little kid my aunt wanted to pay me a Theresa (since I had dark hair and eyes) so the doll would look more like me, but I still wanted the blonde Barbie.

>>6332718
I don't really think I care to much what color their skin is as long as they are cute, and pretty.

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I can't take it anymore!!! I wanna find out what type of Designer dolls the Disney Store will have this September/October. They can't possibly release a 3rd wave of heroes and villains dolls. I wonder if they will do something cool like Princesses and their parents. They usually announce the dolls around mid August, but I'm dying to know what they have planed.

I also wonder what 17" LE dolls they'll release. They've already released every major princess. Maybe they'll finally do an LE Pocahontas and Mulan! I'll take anything accept another 17" live action Emma Watson as Belle doll.

>>6332038
Really? I thought she, Draculaura, and Frankie shared that honor because there's like 9 million of their goddamned dolls and everyone already has them. Howleen and Clawdia did okay from what I saw in my area. Hell, even the cool looking Clawdeens were a bit hard to track down.

>>6332968
Draculauras actually always sold pretty well. Out of the main ghouls, she was the one with most appeal to the target audience and was the least weird in the eyes of the parents.

>>6332968
Could be a regional thing. The Wolf dolls sold horribly in my area. More for me, though.

>>6332880
We'll probably find out earlier this year because of D23.

>>6332968
Despite what Monster High fans will tell anyone, Ghoulia shelfwarmed the most. They like to think she didn't because she was "so popular!!!!!"

>>6320012
Those are some really nice articulated bodies. I've always been a sucker for the huge feet thing too.

The fashion is mostly horrible and campy (why are there gaping holes everywhere) but there are some good parts.

I'd definitely consider getting them to repaint, especially if I found them on sale.

>>6333693
The outfits are inspired by her most popular music video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OigFnuXL1NI

The holes are so you can attach the little plastic shape accessories to everything, which is the main gimmick of the dolls.

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2017 D23 exclusive dolls.

There's finally a Ping Mulan doll and I will never own her. It hurts.

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New Starfire doll from DC Superhero Girls.

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>>6334858
She's from the Intergalactic Gala line. What do you think of her ?

>>6334846
>>6334849
>>6334854
>>6334858
>>6334863
Ugh, they didn't even hem her outfit.

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>Starfire gets a second doll.
>No Raven.

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>>6334767

I'm glad we're getting Samurai Jack & Ashi dolls, but would it have killed them to give the pair show accurate outfits?

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>>6335106
lel

Does anyone else want a limited Elena of Avalor doll? I would be stoked if they released one but too bad I don't see it happen anytime soon.

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>>6334767
> It hurts.
I know your pain, anon. I felt it when they made the LE Slave Jasmine doll a D23 exclusive. I found a 17" singing Jasmine at a thrift store, and even thought about making her into one.

Not another Minnie though! I skipped the first one, and got an extra LE Aladdin instead. I picked up the second Minnie because she looked stylish,and I wanted to have at least on in my collection. They can keep this new Red Queen of hearts looking Minnie though.

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I read that the new 17" LE doll is going to be Snow White, but I'm confused as to why people are calling her "The Art of Snow White" ? I wonder if this means that the new 17" Snow White is going to be redesigned, and look all weird or modern. They might also release 17" versions of the evil Queen, and Prince.
Someone also said that The Blue Fairy might be one of the new designer dolls. If this is true I hope they include a Pinocchio to go with her! I still think they should have gone with a Disney characters, and their parents theme.

>>6334767
I am so fucking mad right now

>>6335142
I think they're calling it "Art of Snow White" because it's part of the Art of Snow White release, like how DS did Art of Ariel, Art of Belle, Art of Jasmine, etc, except Snow gets a doll because it's an anniversary year.

I wonder what she will look like, since we now have 2 17' LE Snow Whites.

>>6334767
Third time now that ugly as fuck Minnie doll has been redressed and shit back out on shelves. I swear they recall all the unsold stock over and over and just change out the dress each time.

>>6334863
Looks good. I've heard Blackfire is getting a doll too.

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>>6334767
>>Mulan
>>D23

>>6335302
I'm sure they do. Whoever designed this doll needs to get fired

>>6331241
Do they still make stuff like this for kids? I've seen dolls of singers, but what about playsets.

>>6331386
Hold the phone, why are those baby dolls so expensive?

>>6335097
Has she shown up in the cartoon?

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>>6335453
Not yet but she's appeared in one of the graphic novels.

>>6322152
No no, I just mean that the figures resemble her logos/mascots/whatever closer than the dolls. They made the dolls a little more... i dunno, Shoppies mixed with Lala Loopsy or something. I didn't actually realize what they were until I saw the figures.

>>6323391
>tnt face
>interchangeable wigs
theyve found my weakness

>>6335447
Well for one, they're not in USD (note the measurement listed in cm). Also whoever took the pic didnt actually read the price labels, because the higher price is for both babies, the cheaper price is for "Plush Bear Sheer Ribbon 70cm".

>>6335440
Is there even a demand for dolls of the animal characters? The last Minnie took forever to leave my local store.

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>>6335623
>Is there even a demand for dolls of the animal characters?

If they released dolls that looked like the Disney park maskot characters I'd be all over them, but of course they don't sell cool stuff like that in the US.

>The last Minnie took forever to leave my local store.
My Disney Store still has Designer Minnie, and the Designer Aurora & Maleficent for sale. Alice, and the Red Queen hung around for a long time as well.

>>6323391
She's on the Barbie Collector site now, backordered until June though.

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>>6334863

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>>6336438
She's very pretty.

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>>6335130
I'd rather have a LE Princess Isabel doll.

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>>6335446

With the exception of this >>6331218 it does't happen very often now a days. Teen pop stars used to be way bigger in the 80s, 90, and early 2000s. For a very brief time Britney Spears was referred to as a living breathing Barbie doll come to life by Mtv. This was before she started getting edgy, chubby, and overly sexual on stage, and her doll line was discontinued.

After the late 90s teen pop singing dolls disappeared until around 2007. This is when Disney released those High School Musical, and Hannah Montana dolls. Taylor Swift, Justin Bieber, and One Direction dolls became a thing, and there were also a few other dolls based off of Disney Channel / Nickelodeon stars.
The fact that the hit Disney channel show Girl Meets World didn't have any dolls created to help promote the show kinda cements that this fade is dead once again.

>>6335447
Which set of baby dolls are you referring to. There are like five different examples in that image.

>>6335504
Good eye I didn't notice the Plush Bear text in that pic.

>>6335130
Elena of Avalor bums me out. She has such a pretty design and her setting looks so neat and it's all wasted on a show for preschoolers.

>>6337992
>hit Disney channel show Girl Meets World
Didn't it get cancelled?

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>>6338011
It hit it's 65th episode a few months back,and got cancelled shortly after. 65 episodes is all Disney has to make in order to sell the show into syndication. In it's three year run the show had some of highest ratings on the channel. They've made Disney V.I.P dolls for less popular characters in the past, yet Girl Meets World got nothing.

>>6331878
>>6331890
Huh, I must have had jungle fever as a kid. I got a brown baby doll and my sister got a blond pale one, and I always though hers was boring( I have brown hair/eyes, she's blond with grey eyes). And some years later I was secretly super jealous of her getting a Pocahonthas barbie while I had only regular ones. I still gravitate towards non-blonde dolls

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>imagine paying $100 for the first fully articulated, rooted hair Ken doll in a rare skin tone and finding this shit

>>6338384
That's some bullshit

>>6338384
Welp. There goes my plan to use him for a OOAK

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>>6338384
Holly shit, that's fucking horrible.

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He also has a fucking black scalp when he's rooted with white hair.

>>6338502
The hell were they thinking ?

>>6338502
Jesus, it just gets worse and worse. Why can't Mattel let us have nice things?

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Also they couldn't be fucked 3d modeling a back plate or even painting it, even though Mattel is charging $100 for this fucked up mess.

>>6338502
What in the flippity fuck?

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>>6338384
>>6338502

At first I thought he had black arms because the chain mail net material was see-though. But looking at some close-ups, it looks as if the chain mail already has some black material backing.

So... Why does he have black arms? Has Mattel addressed this?

>>6338604
He has a black undershirt on. There's literally no reason for the black arms.

Anybody know of some good, free sewing patterns for D.C. Superhero Girls?

I ordered some cheap naked DCSHG dolls off eBay for customizing purposes. But I can't find any good fan patterns specific for DC dolls. What I really need is a pattern for thigh-high stockings.

>>6338684
You might have better luck if you look for MH/EAH patterns instead. The patterns DGRequiem sells on Etsy work for DCSHG dolls if you print them at 125% and I imagine others will work the same way.

Tangled Series dolls are up at The Disney Store.

>>6338604
>Has Mattel addressed this?

If they do, it will be some mealy-mouthed thing like

>We sincerely apologize for disappointing some of our collectors, but this doll was designed to be kept NRFB.

And then it will be the final straw for several more collectors to give up buying modern Mattel. And then Mattel will double down on courting Instagram hipsters who will never pay more than $20 for a doll as a novelty, if they even buy even one at all.

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Apparently their deal is that they have extra articulation points.

>>6338011
>Elena of Avalor bums me out. She has such a pretty design and her setting looks so neat and it's all wasted on a show for preschoolers.
...you can still watch it, you know? Like, it's a good show and if bronies don't let target age stop them then there's no need to keep yourself from watching genuinely good shows which happen to be marketed towards kids (Elena and Sofia are both good shit and i watch em when i have a change, no shame, i already fucking buy dolls)

>>6340796
Fuck yeah anon! I personally enjoy Elena and Sofia more than regular disney's princess movies because the episodes allow for more character development. And besides, the other princess movies were all directed towards young children too so I have no other what the other anon is on about.

>>6340756
I'm not a big fan of Cassandra but her doll is amazing!

>>6340717
Or, like how people were confused why the Wonder Woman two pack was $125 and the single dolls were $45, Bill Greening and Carlyle Nuera on facebook both will go "If you don't like don't buy it :3" as if that addresses the fact they designed shitty dolls and marked up it for no good reason.

>>6340796
>...you can still watch it, you know?
I've tried but found myself zoning out so I think it might be a little too young for my tastes. May give it another go eventually.

>>6340756
God rapunzel's dress looks awful, especially for the Disney Store. I love everything else though.

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>>6340756
She has 16 points of articulation. Both of them will cost you $29.95.

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I'm going to try to get this one for $19.99 because I feel her hair will be softer, and have less junk in it. Plus she comes with her sidekick.

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You can also get all three for $19.95, but sadly this is a mini doll set.

>>6340936
>"If you don't like don't buy it :3"

I can't believe they are still using this logic when the collector line now releases about 1/4th the number of dolls they used to. And no store carries any collector dolls besides the shitty birthday and holiday ones. My Target doesn't even bother with the "The Barbie Look" dolls anymore.

>>6340756
wow actually their are pretty good looking, i like them

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Starfire and Blackfire sister two pack.

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>>6341602

>see DC dolls at Kroger
>weird budget dolls with no clothes, molded bodies, unpainted limbs that don't match

If not for the packaging I would have thought they were very cheap bootlegs.

>>6341602
>painted limbs
>print on dress front only
Damn it, Mattel.

>>6341638

this
This.
THIS!!!

>>6341602
>>6341608
Blackfire looks but could be better.

>>6341602
Double fisting action!

>>6341446
>that tiny adorable Eugene

holy fuck

>>6341602
>>6341608
>dat sameface
I hope that this is just a prototype and that the final doll ends up with a different face-up. I figured they'd share a face mold since they're sisters but Mattel could've at least changed her expression. Even just arching her eyebrows a little would work.

>>6341638
At least the shoes aren't molded on

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>>6341493

>>6342720
What a cunt.

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Okay, so this is driving me crazy. Are there any fashion dolls similar in articulation and shape to Fashionistas that are both cheap and not with panties molded onto them?

If not, has anyone tried sanding the panties off a fashionista?

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Ken's getting new body types!

>>6342761
Yeah, just follow these instructions. The molded panties are raised details instead of recessed ones so it's easier to remove than fill in...
http://www.dirili.com/mh/sanding.html

Also has anyone seen the new Barbie Look Curvy yet?

>>6342905
Alright, I think I can make this work. Thanks. One more question. What skintones does the articulated Fashionista body come in and if I wanted to put a fleshtone Obitsu head on one, which would be the best match?

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>>6342923
The Nostalgic skin tone, which is the palest skin tone. It's usually used the Asian Fashionistas (like pic related), but it's generally the lightest skin tone in playline atm.

>>6343013
I should've clarified on which Fashionistas. I was referring to the ones with the bonus elbow, wrist, knee, and torso joints. Now have they released one of those bodies in the Nostalgic skin tone?

>>6343035
I've seriously been digging around google for hours now. I did find one that might be promising. Midge from the Dreamhouse line. You think she's pale enough for a fleshtone Obitsu head?

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>>6342923
>>6343045
>>6343035

May I ask why you want to put an Obitsu head on a Fashionista body? Most Obitsu bodies are Barbie compataible as far as clothes and are on par with MtM bodies for articulation.

BTW, if you're dead set on using a Barbie body, why not use the MtM purple top/Asian/Kira body? It has better articulation and easier to find.

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>>6343136
I'm trying to make a Gwendy prop replica from Small Soldiers. The issue is that while Obitsu and mtm Barbies are more articulate, their joints don't match up with how the props look. Fashionista bodies have the closest resembling joints, at least in the limbs. The only torsos that match up with the prop are those old 80s fully jointed Barbies, but they don't have wrists and are only in that really dark tan skintone. So the Fashionista seems like the only decent compromise.

And the reason for the Obitsu head is because I wanted to grab one of those non threaded heads and they seem to be the cheapest.

>>6343177
Now that you mention the lower price though, the mtm might be easier to get. That, and I think a slight inaccuracy for better poses should be fine.

>>6342768
>fat Ken

yesss

>>6342768
Been wanting a chubby Ken to go with my chubby Barbies. We also need a shorter Ken, though the one in the middle bottom has a fuck HUGE head ugh.

no wonder their business has stagnated when one of their "best" designers has that attitude...

>>6342768
Oh ffs, now I can get a big fat Ken who looks just like me! No Mattel, being fat should not be glamorised or promoted as normal in any way.

Gay Ken in the bottom left however looks pretty tidy.

>>6343941
The worst part is, I'm pretty sure collectors can fucking afford the set, especially with how Integrity Toys can price their stuff and get sold out. It's just the dolls are fucking mediocre for $125 especially since Wonder Woman CAN'T turn her arms, Steve Trevor has molded on gloves, and both outfits are one piece things that either can't be removed or stitched in. And considering the single dolls were $45, where does Mattel get off charging an extra $35...

I honestly hate Carlyle Nuera's designs a lot and his attitude about reusing fashion designs but with different fabric isn't cute at all but everyone fucking loves him cuz he remembers the 90s.

>>6344248
Does anybody outside Instagram really love him, I wonder. The clothes are all shit, he makes a "cute" drawing without any apparent consideration for what the final doll will look like.

He apparently collected FR before working at Mattel, so it's hilarious for him to imply somebody is a poorfag while designing overpriced cheap crap for a failing brand.

Collect all the new Fashionista Kens today!

>>6344258
>Big Head Carlton!
>Denim Dream Samurai Jack!

>>6344260
>Fashy Fascist Fred!
>Barbie's new gay best friend, Milo!
>"LOL I'm such a Nerd" Niles!

>>6344268
>Non-threatening black man Tyrone!
>"God, I love being White!" Ken!

>>6344424
You're trying way too hard to be funny, friend.

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>>6341446
>>6341440


New Rapunzel has really long hair, but shes smaller than a classic doll. Shes been reported to be the size of a Bratz doll. Her hips move. Plus her hair is really soft!

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>>6344437

>"I-it's not like you're funny or anything!"
>"B-baka!"

>>6344481
>that hair
>proper long rapunzel hair instead of not-even-ankle-length bullshit

yay

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>>6344702
Indeed.
She also has a two layer dress, and her knee joints seem to be like the highly poseable Made to Move barbie knee joints.

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>>6344258
Is "big" Ken even fat? It looks to me like the new sizes are jock, twink, and tall. Even Mattel marketing knows fat women never want a fat guy. Also, the greasy man bun is disgusting.

>>6344258
Is that a man bun?

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>>6344424
>Denim Dream Samurai Jack!
I chuckled.

And don't forget Technicolor Ken!

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>>6345801
That Ken looks like a test pattern.

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>>6345801

"That's him, Officer! That's the man who stole my amazing technicolor dream coat!"

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>>6345868
You beat me to it.


>>6345801

Is that hair style for men really in right now or is this just a Ken doll thing. Shaved sides, and than gelling up the top. Even the Ken dolls with plastic molded on hair have the same style now. It kinda reminds me of how black man used to shave the sides of their heads, and than leave a pencil eraser top afro on the top of their heads in the early 90s.


Also whats up with that retarded Jim Carry from Dumb and Dumber inspired suit? It looks just as tacky, but only gayer do to the colors, and the fact that they didn't give the poor guy a shirt so people could lust over his perfectly molded exposed chest.

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>>6345072
>Is "big" Ken even fat?
No he's not.

>It looks to me like the new sizes are jock
They are, and they were only created to shut the mouths of those who protested that there is now a plus sized barbie doll, yet Ken still has the body of a greek adonis. They slightly changed his body without actually making him "curvy" aka fat as they did Barbie.


He looks like he has more of a Kristoff from Frozen doll body now than an actual "Curvy" , chubby or fat body type.

> the greasy man bun is disgusting.
Agreed.

>>6346209
It's a genuine style but it almost always looks bad.

>>6346209
>>6346968
It's the latest style for nu-males these days.

>>6346230
>no cheap thick Ken with a body similar to the Crystal King so I can make a custom buff lady doll


Why does Mattel hate my dreams

>>6347084
I support your ambitions.

>>6338217
People like things that are different to them.

>>6345801
>>6345868
Jeremy Scott self inserting himself as a doll again and making a kid dress like him. He needs to fuck off, so boring.

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Every day, I pray for ugly ironic hipster shit to finally be over. It's been ruining things for almost a decade now. They ruined the prescription frames market, clothes, and now even Barbie has to suffer.

>>6342720
yikes

new thread >>6349560

>>6349561
Thread still has 11 posts to go and will remain in the catalog for a couple of days yet, what's the hurry?