Transformers General - /tfg/

>Almost in February
>Takara still hasn't announced new Legends releases.

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MP BROWNING WHEN?!??

>>6146374
After Squawkbox and Slamdance.

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Has anyone in the US found a way to get Six Shot without overpaying for him? Waiting for him to stop being on preorder at BBTS is killing me. He's available on Robot Kingdom, but I see I'd have to pay like $80 for him.

Has he been found in any stores yet?

>>6146435
Tfsource has him on preorder for 46.99 USD.

>>6146440
Considering my problem is I'm getting tired of waiting for him to stop being on pre-order on BBTS, being available for pre-order on TFSource doesn't quite give me what I'm looking for.

>>6146370
As cool as MP Primal and Cheetor are, I hope we get more Beast wars stuff that isn't necessarily from Season 1 of the show. There's a lot of cool toy/comic only characters I'd like to see get more love.

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>>6146370
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8WvSGNEV24

>>6146453
>There's a lot of cool toy/comic only characters I'd like to see get more love.
Literally not going to happen.

>>6146424
How about a third party style one then?

>>6146469
What about a third party company doing superior transmetals and comic characters?

anybody get the combiner wars ironhide? I just got one, what was your thoughts on it? I thought the head was a bit too loose.

>>6146505
It's a fine toy but not as Ironhide imo

>>6146505

Mine's legs were kind of loose. Futureshine fixed it up just fine.

>>6146505
It's alright. A dream of mine would be if they made a 3rd party addon for him that would make him more van like, like something for the back of his legs that could fold out into weapons and a new front for the truck. Unless they revisit the Towline mold from Energon and update it a bit, I doubt we'll get a 'perfect' toy and show accurate Ironhide/Ratchet.

But yeah, I like him. Replaced my classics/universe toy with him.

>>6146453
On the note of comic characters, I'd love to see CHUG versions of the Decepticon Justice Division, Ironfist, Guzzle, Pyro, Rotorstorm, Impactor, and Riptide.

>>6146552
yeah, those were my favorite beastwars guys, too.

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>>6146552
>Ironfist
One of the only few 3rd party things I own is this one, because I needed that Ironfist scratch itched.
Gauntlet by Maketoys, not sure if they're still around since I don't keep up with that stuff much.

>>6146559
>CHUG Terrorsaur and Tarantulas never ever

>>6146561
I'm still kicking myself for passing on him and his decepticon redeco.

>>6146563
Terrorsaur desperately needs one. So does Scorponok, though Takara will probably make one out of Paralon.

>>6146528
>MP Ironhide

>>6146561
Wrong company, but a good figure. Mech Ideas were the ones behind it. Unfortunately, Crankcase and him have a QC issue with their mushroom peg thigh swivels. Some are just too tight and will shear the pegs right off on the first twist. Still a great figure if you can fix that or just never twist his legs as the motion isn't needed for transformation.

MI have been quiet the past few years, most thought they had quietly folded after these two and their Animated Huffer and Pipes. But last TFCon they showed off they're working on a LioKaizer team.

>>6146585
Thanks for correcting, not up on 3rd party stuff but went out of my way for Gauntlet when I knew of it existing. Nice to know they're still around too.

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>there was a time where we used Alternators / Binaltech as companions to our MPs instead of other MPs

Anyone still has their Binaltech displayed alongside MP01/MP04/MP05 on a separate shelf? It's the only thing that scales with them correctly in comparison to the new downscaled Masterpieces desu.

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Soo, will there ever be a premium version of the new MP Megatron with a metallic finishing? That's literally the only thing setting me back from getting one tbqh, the molding is brilliant but the bland grey plastic looks so awful that it could almost be something from Hasbro.

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Despite passing on him many many times in store, I'm now wishing I'd gotten Alpha Bravo. I don't know why. I could get one for $17, thoughts? I don't know why I need another fucking helicopter, but dammit I feel like I do.

>>6146630
You will be wasting your money, he's just another generic-looking, bland and poorly painted mold.

Like most deluxes from Combiner Wars are.

>>6146619
I've never had any of the alternators but I've always been interested. Hound looks the best, but who would some of the other standouts be? I'm interested in Sideswipe I think, but mostly because I like the character.

>>6146552
I'd love for a CHUG DJD, or at the very least Tarn, but I might be okay with MMC's just because of how perfect it looks. Normally I don't like too much 3P stuff because I don't really collect much masterpiece, and I don't like a lot of, what's the word, greeble? And sometimes I feel that's overdone on 3P figures.

I'll also love to see a CHUG Star Saber styled like MTMTE, or Pharma. Yeah, definitely Pharma.

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reposting from prev, didn't realize the new thread

Bought the maymay, pretty cute but not the best, his shark mode hands REALLY needed to be ball joints not swivels.

Id say hes fine for a simple legends purchase but not worth the hype

>>6146630
don't bother, I have Blades and it's fun for an arm but not a great as a figure, feet are awkwardly big and arms have crap range

>>6146630
I'm one of the few people who thought the copter mold was pretty fun.

Problem is that the hand/foot port is thin and is more likely to crack than on other molds.

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>>6146639
Hound / Swindle is certainly one of the best, likely alongside Shockwave / Meister, Mirage / Hot Rodimus and obviously Silverstreak / Smokescreen (hng, dat liveried Subaru paintjob). Sideswipe isn't one of my favorites simply because it lacks knee articulation, which is a major fuck-up when it comes to something that's supposed to be on the same grade as a Masterpiece, but the detailing and the stellar vehicle mode design can easily make up for it if you're really into the character. I got the Dead End version last year and imho, it's probably the better version of that mold, the dark Dodge Viper looks badass.

Also, get the Binaltech versions instead of the Alternators whenever you possibly can, they're generally better.

>>6146659
Wait, Sideswipe has no knees? Really? Weird.

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>>6146659
>>6146663
Walp, I mixed it up, he does have knees but legs don't have any proper articulation. He can spread them sideways but that's about it, they are permanently locked in place like some of the earlier Armada / Energon figures. There's swivels so you can still do some posing regardless but don't expect much more from it.

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>>6146673
>He can spread them sideways but that's about it

>>6146673
Oh so no forward / back on the hips. That's a shame.

>>6146681
Yeah, pretty much. Really hurts the playability on the figure desu.

>>6146673
How big is the head on that compared to Universe2 Sideswipe? Cuz it looks way better

>>6146687
I can only speak for the Dead End version but it's significantly larger, about 2x the size since Alternators / Binaltech are mostly 2x the size of a deluxe.

>>6146687
Binalternators were about Voyager sized. So a fair bit bigger.

>>6146690
>>6146691
Dang. Maybe I should get around to painting that shapeways head i have lying around, then.

okay so a guy on another forum is selling a bunch of TF's, mostly from the RID/Car Robots and Unicron Trilogy eras, would the prices for these be a good deal or would I be getting ripped off?;

Armada
Demolishor-$10
Cyclonus-$10

Energon
Slugslinger-$10(going to try and negotiate down to 5 since I hear this mold has issues)
Divebomb-$5
Ravage-$5
Arcee-$5

RID/Car Robots
Megatron/Gigatron-$30
Dreadwind & Smokejumper-$35
Bruticus-$5


I also expressed interest in Landmine($30), Cybertron Scourge($25), Cybertron Soundwave($15), and Cybertron Sky Shadow($15), but didn't make a direct claim on them yet

no idea yet what shipping might cost

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>>6146693
Funny thing, I recently also got a decent lot of Unicron Trilogy stuff- pic related, all of it for 40€.

In what state of completion are they? MISB? Loose? Do they still have all their accessories? The ones I got didn't have any accessories included and were sold for 3€ each (about 3.2$). Also, Demolishor is kinda crappy since it has virtually no articulation, although I would say Cyclonus does look cool.

>>6146699
Should I buy Energon Inferno to turn into a Classics Ironhide?

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>>6146701
I must be amongst the few people who does enjoy Universe 2.0 Ironhide, but sure, the Energon Inferno is easily one of the better deluxes from its era. The only think that bothers me is the crotch design, as in, there really isn't any and the legs pretty much just stick out under the truck like pic related, but you can certainly overlook that since the rest of the design is pretty decent.

>>6146699
from what I remember they're for the most part loose, but more or less complete

as for Demolishor, I know he has articulation issues, but I had him as a kid, and want a new one(cause while I still have my original one, he's missing half his missiles, and one of his minicon peg broke off inside his minicon, plus he's gotten beaten up in general), and as for Cyclonus, part of why I'm getting him is because I have his Cybertron remold Buzzsaw, so I know what I'm in for(plus I love the minicon gimmick that Cyclonus has)

>>6146623
I want the weijiang KO that will have that and a back cover piece for bot mode that becomes a belt clip or something for UNCLE mode.

>>6146681
There is some, going off my Binaltech* Sunstreaker, but it's limited.

I still really like the Binaltech figures, even if the robots aren't as streamlined as the new Masterpiece figures, they're made to a much higher standard of quality. Lots of metal, detailed rubber tires, premium paint jobs all round. I've been considering trying to pick up a few I missed off Mandarake, and maybe picking up more of the Alternity/GT figures too.

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Last Knight deluxe Barricade.

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>>6146820

>>6146820
>>6146822
Hey, that looks surprisingly neat. f something, the lack of detail in the grey parts is somewhat annoying, but the overall mold seems to be pretty sturdy and perhaps even not all that Bay-ish. More pics are direly needed on that thing, but as of now I could totally see it being repurposed for some CHUGs.

Couldn't they grey out the vehicle mode windows a little though?

>>6146820
>>6146822
Some more pics in this thread:
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/possible-last-knight-deluxe-barricade.1097665/

Yup, he looks pretty dope.

hello /tfg/ recently i've gotten really into movie figures, I also know a lot of people are trying to get rid of their figures. if you want to off load them or trade shoot me an email

So with the movie toys coming out, is Titans return over or are they doing some parallel product lines thing?

>>6146820
Looks pretty neat. I just wish these pictures weren't such astonishingly bad fucking quality in this day and age of 8 megapixel cameras being the standard on most phones.

>>6146838
They always had a Classics / Universe / Generations line being released in parallel to the films, it's basically their most varied and longest running collection. Titans Return will eventually be over but they'll most certainly follow it up with some other classics line.

>>6146820
It looks alright. It's lacking in some pile of scrap details but the simplified engineering lends itself to a more coherent and solid design than previous bayformers. It almost makes me somewhat glad engineering has taken a nosedive these past few years.

>>6146838
They'll run simultaneously, all 3 lines.

Just don't expect retailers to keep TR and RID shit well stocked when there are bayformers to sell.

>>6146839

Its an unwritten law. If you leak pictures of transformers early they have to be blurry and poor quality, with being badly mistransformed optional.

But yeah, I notice even sluts on twitter and tumblr still manage to take fucking awful grainy pictures with their phones, even though phone cameras can take some pretty nice fucking pictures. I dont know how they fuck up so bad.

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>>6146852
>It almost makes me somewhat glad engineering has taken a nosedive these past few years.
If it was just the engineering, but the paintjobs have also been getting progressively worse. I wanna puke every time I see a toy with "plastic kit grey".

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Jesus fucking christ.

I hope theres a hinge or two in that ass flap to fold it up.

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>>6146857
FOR FUCK'S SAKE HASBRO

>>6146857
I still stand by my prediction that LK toys are going to for the most part be Beast Era-tier shellformers.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RShUV_tVEwE

Takara stopmotion commercial for the upcoming rereleases.

>RATCHETO
>IYONHIDO

>>6146860
Wasn't that most of the Age of Extinction toyline though? Ironically, the least shellformer ones amongst those were the dinobots.

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>>6146857
>No police on the arms
2/10 NOT MUH BARRY

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>>6146866
>No punish and enslave

DEAD

DEAD TO ME

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>>6146868

>2017
>Hasbro still not putting silver paint on wheel rims

>>6146854

Lighting in a ton of cases is why shit turns out so bad. What humans can see perfectly fine in is often absolute shit lighting for a camera.

>>6146871

Whats worse is that they do put silver on the rims.

At random.

Remember the CW Autobot repaint wave, and how it had painted rims? But Defensor's stuff didn't?

>>6146630
He's a fun helicopter bro with missiles on his forearms I have five versions of this mold and haven't had a single issue with the any of the ports cracking. I just wished they'd given him some kind of skirt armor to cover his upper thighs.

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Honestly he looks alright, better than the AoE car-formers.

gonna just stick with the human alliance barricade

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>>6146868
>>>>No punish and enslave

How can they possibly fuck up this bad?

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>>6146884
I'm honestly split with the new head.

>>6146852
I don't think engineering has gotten worse but that it has gotten much less complex.
Some of the engineering in CW and TR has been pure genius but kind of underwhelming for how simple it is.

>>6146890
there going too much for an "evil Bumblebee"

>>6146871
Paint costs money anon!
>>6146881
Not to defend Hasbro here, but the Autobot wave was pretty lacking in pain for the actual figures themselves, while Defensor Wave had the vehicle and robot modes with more paint.

Sadly it's an either wheels or body situation.

What really sucks is how the Stunticons and Autobots had painted rims, but NONE of the Voyager trucks had them outside of Takara and TFCC stuff.

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>>6146896
And it's shit.

SHIIT

>>6146868
>>6146887


Look at the rear fender.

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>>6146903
>It's curved
>Not even straight

>>6146907
JUST

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>>6146907
>>6146887
>>6146868
FUCK

God the movie toys are so fucking lackluster now. I didn't always enjoy the designs, or the gimmicks but dear god, the absolute complexity that went into some of the movie toys was out fucking standing.

Now they all just look like the side-waves that were aimed at the toddler market.

>>6146853
Hell, I'm not expecting stores to even keep bayformers stocked well.

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>>6146930
Wish we could turn back time to the ROTF days

I'll just wait for the Masterpiece bayformers...

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>>6146887
Do you even have to ask?

>>6146907

What is toyhax reprolabels?

>>6146938
It's still disappointing on Hasbro's part.

>>6146938
Awfully shitty?

>>6146820
Backpack aside - I like it. It's simple, but effective and no intrusive gimmicks by the look of things.

>>6146958
He only has pistols and another gun I believe.

I do wish he was painted a bit more

>>6146959
Just wait six months for the "premium" box set.

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>>6146962
I'll wait [spoiler]for the WeiJiang edition with hopefully his legacy head.[/spoiler] or the HA retool.

>>6146857
it would be cool if he could use the back kibble as a riot shield

>>6146970
I personally hope he will have a baton.

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Might be able to fold up the backpack.

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>>6146976
>>6146970

Finally, a robot I can pair with Brutalicus.

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I wish tfcc Barricade was a mass release.

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> The first toy planned for the Alternators line was Jazz as a Porsche 986. A prototype was made, but Porsche refused to grant Hasbro and Takara the license, stating that "Transformers are not worthy [of] carrying the Porsche trademark. They are war machines, and the toyline in no way represents the lifestyle and ideas which Porsche represents."

>The third design was for Bumblebee as a Volkswagen New Beetle, with Cliffjumper as the redeco. Unfortunately, VW had similar concerns as Porsche, what with not wanting to be associated with "war toys", therefore the design never even made it to the prototype stage.

We have Masterpiece Bumblebee so I can only assume that means Volkswagon eased up on those reservations, but is Porsche still the reason we can't get new Jazz figures?

>>6146994
ROOKS

>>6146998
I would buy that in a heartbeat.

>>6146988
So the windows are similar to Sideways? Neat.

>>6146998

I owned that, but it was a floppy mess in robot mode.

>>6147009

>They are war machines, and the toyline in no way represents the lifestyle and ideas which Porsche represents.

Meanwhile, Porsche helped build tanks in WWII.

>>6147024
Pics?

>>6147026

Past tense - owned. I sold it a long while back.

Did a huge collection purge when I moved out.

>>6147027
So what's the worst part about it? Arms or transformation? Legs and body seem fine.

>>6147033

Hips. Probably nothing a little floor polish couldn't fix, but it had problems standing.

>>6146890
The old head looked like nothing. It was like someone took a picture of a car accident.

The new one isn't great either but it looks better.

>>6147025
Yeah and they don't really look back on their part of the war fondly hence the modern day heavy disinterest in 'war toys'

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>>6147045
Old one had a bit of mustache, and it's pretty much better than a Bee clone. Two TFanimated designs were based on it.

I will miss the old one though. If they wanted better designs based on the original, they could've either used the TFPrime version or the Transformers DS version, where Barricade's icon had a faceplate.

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this is the DS Barricade faceplate icon by the way.

>>6147076
Neat.

>>6147076
JUSTICE BOW

>>6147076

Not bad, it's like Maketoys bow weapon. Too bad I was never able to find a cheap Hasbro set for the hands and feet.

>>6147057

Yeah, I don't mind the redesign overall, but the head is a bit generic. Shame, since he carries over other design elements, like the foot spikes.

>>6147100
Footspikes, Punish Enslave and arm police.

It's just really the head.

Hopefully he still has a Masterpiece release alongside Bee.

>>6147100
Just get the KO third party hands and feet. They were like $15 for a while.

>>6147114
Lit'rully no one cares.

>>6146659
Mirage/Hot Rod (Ford GT) is my favorite of the molds. Coming at the end of the line it has the best qualities. Good alt mode, good articulation, good robot mode. Shockwave/Jazz (Mazda RX8) is also pretty good, mostly because it's really a refined version of Smokescreen (Subaru WRX) mold. The Honda S2000 has my favorite transformation of them all, it's intuitive while still being complex. Ones to stay away from however: Optimus/Nemesis Prime (christ this thing is not good), Mustang (it works once you figure it out but there's a learning curve and it can still be frustrating), Rumble/Civic (good vehicle, shit robot mode).

Of course, for all of these try and get the Takara Binaltech versions as the diecast really makes the altmodes pop.

>>6146693
Cybertron Scourge isn't worth that price, it's kinda terrible. Soundwave is great though.

>>6146857
This line's gonna blow

>>6147134
It's sad, before I saw the entire back of the car on his back I kinda liked the new Barricade, it sorta seems closer to a traditional TF silhouette, less alien than what they were going for in the first films. Maybe that one anon is right and the backpack will fold up, who knows.

>>6146988
that would be awesome

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>>6146372

what is taking them forever to show off Hot Rod.

I want my magenta Roddy.

>>6147136
I doubt it, the movie lines require actual effort to make good toys from, something that Hasbro has lacked since dotm.

>>6147136
I can't tell if that back panel folds up. From the front it looks like there's a seam in it, but I can't tell from the back. If these pictures were taken with anything other than a late 90s webcam we could see better.

If there isn't, then I'm adding one myself.

>>6147076

Yeah but it only looks good from that angle..

>>6146847
Not really. The G1 stuff came in between movie lines. Classics was 2006, movie 07, universe 08, RotF 09. 2010 was mixed but it wasn't a movie year. I think AOE was the first to have other lines released along side it.

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>>6146857
>>6147168
Can't really tell too, like it looks sorta the same with the old deluxe Barricade backs but if it had more foldability it would look like Sideways' back.

>>6147122
That and actual paint instead of molded in color, also some of the bots' weapons don't have their gun barrels on the American versions because muh war toys.

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>>6147172
DOTM and Prime were concurrent, weren't they? And FoC was right around the same time I'd thought.

>>6146699

Demolisher has more articulation than most other Armada toys outside of Bendy Prime and Unicron.

>>6147179
Scalpel and Toasterbot sold out fast at my country.

Beeshelves remained roughly the same with the rest of the world.

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>>6147183
Man, I would love a white repaint of TR Perceptor as Scalpel a la KFC's Surgeon.

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>>6147183
I have no idea how that one Shopko held onto those two Scalpels for so long, even with how he shelfwarmed here they were still long gone by DOTM everywhere else.
Beehives were a world-wide plight though, hopefully we won't see the return of the yellow tide like that again.

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>>6147185
>inb4 his name is Doctor Colonel
>I'm a doctor not a soldier, but I can be both for you

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>>6147186
>...Anon said. Little did he know what is to come this Autumn at 2018

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>>6147185
I'd buy it, but getting Mainframe out of that mold is higher priority to me. Would be cool though, I always feel like the cons don't have enough medics, the only one I have would be Knockout and I suppose RotF Deadlift, though he's more of a corpse-mover than a medic.

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>>6147195
The lack of decepticon medics is a shame. I want generations Scalpel, Flatline, and Knockout.

Although I'm currently in the process of making a custom Flatline from Transformers Universe atm.

>>6146938
Reprolabels sucks ass these days. They'll probably make a giant sticker that wraps halway around the car just to add one tiny motto. Then fill out the sheet with that rainbow honeycomb shit.

>>6147179
Prime may have been alongside Dotm. I know most of the first edition stuff didnt get released to make room on the shelves for movie stuff. FOC and other Generations were the 2012 line though

>>6147200
Seriously. I was looking at the one for CW Wheeljack, All I wanted was chest windows and some racing decals, instead it wraps like half the car in new green/red patterns.

>>6147207
Check out Eness or Ocean. I'm not sure what all they've made but their decal sheets are much better.

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>>6147208
Yep, I have the eness set for my Generations Wheeljack already and it looks great. I don't think they've done too much new stuff which is a shame.

I'll probably just end up buying another of those sets and then painting the windows myself.

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>>6147206
It gets hard for me to tell sometimes when stuff sits so long it all winds up sharing space, which happens in my part of the midwest. Also memory's a bitch.

>>6147200
Reprolabels is aight if you want your modern toy to really look like a g1 toy in the sense that its covered in tacky stickers.

Otherwise yeah you want eness stuff.

>>6147009
>>6147055

VW, Porshe and Audi are now all the same company, and it was the same policy being enforced.

Story is that the relationship Tomy had with licensors was what got them to change their minds, after Takara merged with them. I think Jazz is a sure thing.

Odd, since the Bay movies use a lot of their cars too. I thought they'd work out the car license because of that.

New TLK figures have been revelead.Berseeker! Oh and Barricade has a batton!

>>6147249
And Bumblebee is an AOE remold in bright yellow with an uglier head. What the fuck Hasbro. I actually like movie BB and even I wasn't a huge fan of that mold.

>>6147249
Berserker pics or just announcing names?

>Barry has a baton
Good news, but I doubt it's not gray plastic.

>>6147252
>Bee is a lazy repaint

figures, after they spent the engineering money to do Masterpiece Bee.

>>6147249
Source?

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>>6147252
Bravo, John.

>>6147259
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>>6147278
>car kibble

It's...a chevy SUV and not a volk?

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Wow that backpack folds up really nicely, looks like it's not even there.

>>6147278
Looks like another DREAD.

>>6147289
I still don't like the side of the arms, or the hood opening at the back of his head.

>>6147289
I kinda have hope for the new movie toys now.

>>6147289
Nice! I love the lack of "shredded metal" look on the thighs and stuff. Honestly with a new head this might be worthwhile stand in for a generations Barricade.

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Well this is disappointing. With TLK using the old Bumblebee bot design I figured they'd at least reshell AOE High Octane Bumblebee or something.

>>6147289

Miss the old design, which was awesome. this looks very generic and cheap.

>>6147300
Boy, they sure are putting a lot of effort into this movie line.

>>6147278
Cool, Dreads.

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>>6147300
>>6147300
Jesus Christ, I'm wasn't even going to buy a new Bumblebee again and this STILL rustles me.

>>6147302
I really like the new design but yeah, it Is very generic.

>>6147300
Well there goes my wish that Crosshairs get a new mold.

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I'm just really split between >>6147298 and >>6147302

Like, I love old Barry's upper body and arms, but I love nu Barry's fists and legs. Combine the two and you get TFPrime Barricade.

Well at least it's not as generic as WFC Barricade.

>>6147300
Did you really expect effort and creativity out of post dotm bayformer toys?

>>6147312
Must buy! Please reveal Meg now!

>>6147316
Huh, so I was right. It's a rerelease of the chevy SUV dreads.

So Hooligan has a different design I reckon.

>>6147312
>>6147316
>>6147300
>>6147289

The movie line has come so far, to lose it all, but in the end Transformers doesn't really matter.

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>>6147312
>spiked baton

too late for that.

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>>6147322
WfC was boring, but I didn't mind it. The TFP design though is awesome. Maybe a third party will tackle it some day.

>>6147323
come on, DOTM wasn't that bad. Just the start of something bad.

>>6147300
Before anyone starts panicking remember that Bee could start in his AOE design then move to his TLK design. He could also just be getting multiple deluxes like in previous films.

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>>6147312
They should have just rereleased Crankcase in a different deco.

>>6147289
I'll wait to see the Takara paint apps

>>6147328
Doubt it. It's too stylized and I don't think they made an alt mode for it.

>Bonecrusher pelvis

You know I just noticed but if Barricade housed both Frenzy and Rumble, his police lights could've been both of the guys being Red and Blue.

>>6147330
You're right, it started going downhill during the line.

>>6147333
They already did that in AoE.

>>6147332
True dat.It actually making sense!

>>6147328
I'm guessing they'll revive based Barricade in IDW with this design.

>>6147025
and VW was building cars and shit for the Nazis. Lets not forget that.

I think that's honestly part of it. Both companies realized they wanted to distance themselves from their history of making shit for the Nazi's in WW2.

I think that, given the popularity of the TF franchise and how management will eventually change within those two companies, it might not be too long before they drop that stance and are willing to work with HasTak again.

>>6147289
Nope. It was very clearly straight up removed in that shot. See >>6146820
and >>6146857

Barri is premier edition:

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/img_6338-jpg.27669390/

>>6147339
after AoE's line, I'm still free to doubt it.

Remember when they released a leader class Bee but it was just DOTM Battle Ops Bee with even LESSER paint and accessories?

>>6147346
>First editions

Neat, so I guess he'll have two deluxes.

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>>6147346
the new face still fucking sucks.

they better have his old face in the movie, even for a cameo. I'd hate to just have a new face without even referencing that he looks new.

>>6147352
To me it looks like a mask,remember that Meg has a mask!

>>6147352
Maybe it's like Bee's battle mask and his old face is under there all jacked up from getting killed.

>>6147356
>>6147358
all this hope is going to make me disappointed

but dammit my favorite cardboard cut out character is back and I'll take my monkey's paw.

HE BETTER NOT BE FUCKING MUTE.

>>6147361
>he only speaks in snippets from police radios and 911 calls

>>6147364
You know, if that back piece doesn't fold up. Maybe I could mod it into a riot shield. That could be pretty sweet.

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>>6147365
ok I'd lose a quarter of my mad if it were consistent like that.

>>6147366
We said the same thing for Gen Chromia's back and there wasn't an easy way to take it off either.

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>>6147278
Damnit, why they pick the crankcase design? Crowbar is so much cooler looking.

>>6147364
>square box for Deluxes
Holy shit, that's what I've been wanting for literally decades. There's just something much more charming and compact about them.

>>6147370
Yeah there was. It could hold on just fine in alt mode using the pegs on the blue "exhaust pipe" parts so all you had to do was cut through the thing holding it on and add a handle to the inside of it.

>>6147371
Crowbar had a toy already.

>>6147328
Isn't the TFP based on >>6146998

>>6147373
>cut through

that's what I meant. If it were a screw then it would be easy.

>>6147374
Not a deluxe though, dumbass.

>>6146871
You do know that hubcaps and rims are available in black, right?

>>6147372
Takara somewhat started it with Battleblades Bumblebee premium for the AoE line but they sold it at a Voyager's price because of Bee's height.

>>6147300
What the hell.

>>6147380
Wait, Crankcase is Voyager?

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>>6147312
>>6147316
>windows are painted onto hard plastic instead of being translucid
Why do I even care anymore jesus fucking christ

>>6147289
He kinda looks CHUG-ish enough to fit into a CHUG display.

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Do I go to Tescos to see if they have any wave 3 Legends?

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>>6147388
Costs more money to tool the tools for separate pieces than to just use paint.

Just going to stick to movie MP bots for this line unless something comes and slams a 10 inch dick on the table.

>>6147387
No, he has two deluxes if this new guy is the same character.

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>>6146998
>I wish tfcc XXXXX was a mass release.

A common sentiment I think.

>>6147388
Crankcase had the same dilemma but at leas it was painted black with plastic sirens. Now this one has painted sirens.

>>6147392
I'm sorry I don't follow.

This is Crankcase's first deluxe toy. Crowbar had two deluxe toys, the other being a redeco.

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>>6147393
I got these two for a steal, like $40 or so off ebay. They're great and really deserved a mass release.

They remind of those cups.

>>6147391
please let the other masterpiece be original Barricade, with HA mold but with fatter legs and better head.

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>>6147391
That's the thing that bothers me though, the last ~3 years of Hasbro figures have been literally about sacrificing painting, design and overall aesthetics for the sake of cutting corners. If they were able to make decent looking, even if sloppily engineered figures back in the early 2000s before the Michael Bay films and therefore well before Transformers was a hot product again, why the fuck can't they do that now that they have a much larger consumer base? Exactly what happened from 2014 and beyond?

>>6147193
Not making an all-Bee CW combiner was an opportunity I'm glad Hasbro chose to miss.

>>6147401
China manufacturing costs?

Hasbro is a greedy bitch?

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>>6147399
I'd be down for Barricade. Maybe have Frenzy in with him?

I'm going with the $100 one being Prime, which makes me want it to be amazing.

>>6147403
Combeener Wars. Hasbro sells connectors that can let you combine Bumblebees of every deluxe-class kind.

>>6147406
Prime would be a shame. We already had a lot of great molds of the guy. I'm hoping for Ironhide.

>inb4 it's actually Brawlvastator

>>6147396
You certainly don't

This is Crankcase: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Crankcase_(DOTM)

and this is Crowbar: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Crowbar

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>>6147396
You're confusing the two. Crankcase got a deluxe in DOTM. Crowbar's only toy was the cyberverse legion.

>>6147289
That almost looks worth it for the weapons alone.

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>>6147405
Both. Possibly more.

Hell, we had $10 deluxes last fall in stores. I'd like to believe that it's Hasbro wanting to save costs.

I just want HfTD level of engineering again. Or the movie MP line expand.

>>6147410
Ahh, I see. I mixed the two up because of the dreadlocks. My bad.

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>>6147413
Ratchet had a great head design along with Brawl. It's robot enough but not too clunky or G1.

>>6147347
Yeah as a Costco exclusive. Not a main line figure

>>6147415
Ah it's all good, they are pretty similiar.

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>>6147413
Shit, now that you mention it HfTD was the last genuinely great line, almost every figure was brilliantly designed and properly painted. A shame it all went downwards from there. I'll never forget my distaste with looking at the blandless of an average Combiner Wars deluxe for the first time.

>>6147424
I swear I saw him in Toys r Us among other toy stores. We don't even have Costco in my country

>>6147427
CW was alright for the combiners, not for the individual figures.

Also, Generations wasn't too bad either.

>>6147427
Honestly I feel like I can excuse CW since it had to fit in the combining gimmick. I'd honestly rather have a pretty decent Defensor than a bunch of really nice Protectobots that can't combine.

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>>6147427
There are a few decent ones in DotM.

Megatron, Ratchet, uh....

Uh...

Sentinel was ok. Leader at least. Still wish he has a APS release with paint and detailing.

>>6147433
Megatron, Topspin, Ironhide (Voyager and Leader), that voyager helicopter, Jolt, Leader Sentinel, Shockwave. All these were pretty great.

>>6147430
>>6147431
>CW was alright for the combiners, not for the individual figures.
Literally the only quality I can attribute to them is their functionality, it's nice to see that after ~30 years Hasbro was finally able to design combiners that don't fall apart when they are played with. Other than that, the proportions are utterly awful, it's nearly impossible to get them to look good without either sacrificing some leg poseability or buying 3rd party accessories.

>Generations wasn't too bad either.
Sure, Generations was always great, but it also covered a massive timespan, far longer than any other CHUG line.

>>6147433
Yeah, I forgot DotM came out after HftD, my bad. There are some pretty decent figures in DotM, but once again, they felt like a slight drop in quality in comparison to HftD. After that, it all went downhill.

>>6147444
I felt the height drop more than the quality drop to be honest. Then again I was a massive scalefag in those years

>>6147444
>the proportions are utterly awful, it's nearly impossible to get them to look good without either sacrificing some leg poseability or buying 3rd party accessories.
This, desu.

It's too bad there isn't a higher-end Transformers toyline that isn't MP, because that's what we really need to get good combiners. A toyline that has a bigger budget to work with, but isn't hindered so much by having to stick to cartoon accuracy.

>>6147447
I still cry for the standardization of MP10 scale in Masterpieces. It's not that I don't like all the great subsequent figures that were made on that smaller size but holy fuck, they would look far more imposing if they kept the original Masterpiece scale.

>>6147449
There's always third party, but too expensive. The chinese are now battling for turd party knock offs too.

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>>6147422
>great head design
>literally looks like a fucking car wreck

>>6147449
I really don't think the market exists at a size to make it worth it to Hasbro/Tomy.

Mainline covers a lot. Titans being the big sellers. Leaders being kinda ok.

MP covers the accuracy and high end.

Independent ones covers the rest.

>>6147447
This is what really put the brakes on me buying retail stuff over the past few years. Well, that and being utterly uninterested in Combiner Wars. I remember being so excited they were making a Trailbreaker, and then it turned out he was hardly bigger than classics Bumblebee, and I just kind of quit.

>>6147450
Everything is still MP-10 scale in Masterpieces...

>>6147451
I have never heard anything good about a third party combiner. There's always a myriad of QC issues, they seem fiddly as fuck, and the few positive words I do hear are clearly people who are trying to smile through the tears of paying several hundred dollars for a toy that is just below par.

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>>6147455
nigga please, it's consistent without looking like Bumblebee, or too humanized like Hound.

>>6147457
>I have never heard anything good about a third party combiner

Because theres only like, 3 good ones. Maybe 4, if you count Quantron, and most people don't.

Feral Rex, GT's not-Devy, and TFC's Poseidon. There you go, the only 3P combiners that are good. Anything else is literally varying levels of failure.

>>6147457
The last I heard of was Warbortron getting two, by Jin Bao and Machineboy. One of those is lower quality while the other is higher, fixes a few issues with the original Warbortron and sells for about 90 bucks.

>>6147463
I'm an odd man out in that I like TFC's Ares, but only in individual bot and alt modes. They look like transofmring Zoids.

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>>6147459

>>6147456
>MP covers the accuracy and high end.
>Independent ones covers the rest.
Pretty much this, desu.

>>6147470
what, you need more humanized or more g1?

>>6147465

They look decent, but man is the actual figures and combiner pure shit.

>>6147364
I wonder what its MSRP will be.

>>6147475
$20- 25.

Though Toyfair is in what? Two weeks? I wonder if Premier edition is like early release or the whole line branding. Movies being 'Premier' with paint and shit.

>>6147470
outside of the eyes, that's sorta nitpicky. The beak is obviously the nose. "Tusks" just makes up his cheeks so he wouldn't look too human and the eyebrows are his eyebrows. It was never his helmet, it's his head.

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>>6147470
I-It's art! You just don't understand!

>>6147478
Early release, like FE Leader Prime. You know, the shittier LC of AoE. Worse than that, SILVER FE Leader Prime.

>>6147481
please don't bring that 3A dorito up again.

>>6147482
Oh right, they did repaint that shit box.

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>>6147472
>>6147481
>>6147479

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>>6147487
""""repaint""""

>>6147289
Holy fuck yes.looking good. Can't wait to army build these.

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>>6147492
>g1
of course...

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>>6147498
>G1

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>>6147449
>A toyline that has a bigger budget to work with, but isn't hindered so much by having to stick to cartoon accuracy.
It's even worse now that Hasbro is also trying to make regular CHUGs as cartoon accurate as they possibly can. Remember when Classics were modern reinterpretations of classic characters?

>>6147500
fine, based on G1.

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>>6147503

Those goalposts keep moving.

Also, actual G1 box art for a comparison. This shit makes even Bayformers up there look like a masterpiece of design. I won't even pretend to know what the fuck is going on here.

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>>6147494
Well.

I wonder if those new movie primes are just unsold ones repainted.

I just want a good looking Prime that can transform.

I've got both DMKs and Buster a good looking Western Star that's big.

>>6147492
>>6147470
So you realize this isn't any sort of factual comparison. They're two different faces. One is not somehow inherently "right" because it has well-defined eyes and a helmet.

This is like saying apples are better than oranges because they're red.

>>6147514

I'm saying one I can clearly define as a face. The other I can't even tell what the fuck is going on because it looks like a jumble of shit.

>>6147509
G1 cartoonists - "wait...he can't NOT have a head...that's silly! Give him a head and face"

"Hey, there's another one that's exactly the same, only red."

"Fuck, give em both a head then"

>>6147492
You forgot the part where his face is made of metal but it has the elasticity of flesh. Faggot.

>inb4 it could be some kind of plastic/rubber material

That shit would look uncanny in live action.

>>6147509
Looks pretty simple, you'd need to be pretty stupid to not tell what is what in that pic.

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>>6147365
>>6147367
>His voice has a radio chatter filter
>He gravel shouts I AM THE LAW during the movie

>>6147361
>>6147365
Wasn't he mostly portrayed in spinoff media as an anime-like cold and aloft soldier with a loyal devotion to Megatron? Being mute and only speaking in radio chatter would fit with his personality.

>>6147535
I hadn't even considered that. So police chatter and police movie quotes. I'm sold.

He also uses Michael Winslow sound effects from Police Academy.

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>ITT: figures literally only you enjoy

>>6147518
Then you need your eyes checked, I can see facial features, or analogues thereof, just fine and I have coke bottle eyeglass lenses.

>>6147552
He looks so dumpy, I love him.

>>6147552
A friend gave him to me after I explicitly skipped it, but by then I had Swindle and Payload so I wound up liking him as the dopey oblivious flyer of the mono-eye group.

>>6147552

I remember a lot of positivity around the Hooligan-esque repaint when it came out, maybe it was just because Hooligan, but I can't imagine people dislike the mold.

>>6147178
I think that's really only the S2000 mold.

>>6147502
>Remember when Classics were modern reinterpretations of classic characters?
Yeah, that was terrible and pointless.

>>6147388
The original toy was based on a vehicle with extreme tinted windows, so they were bare black plastic and looked fine.

Painting them has the effect of looking worse, ironically enough.

>>6147600
Entirely subjective.

>>6147610
Yeah, because denying people the original characters in their original designs is totally a good thing.

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>backpack, backpack

As expected these look like more awful shellformers. Not that I can blame Hasbro/Takara, the cgi models aren't designed so that they could plausibly transform. It looks like at this point they're just giving them lots of soft-rounded contours and then texturing them with color schemes that match the vehicles. They didn't even bother with transformation effects for half the last movie.

>>6146884
I put him on par with drift

>>6147621
Some shots have the entire piece gone
I think it's legit a riot shield

>>6147614
except some of them are the original bodies- Starcream, Hound, Hot Rod(07 and TR), Arcee, Tankor, Perceptor, Cyclonus, Weeljack, Tracks, Armada Starscream, Rattrap, Cyclons(TR), Galvatron(TR), Rhinox... which makes it an odd line. Character A is a new body with an old head, character B is basically mini-MP

>>6146820
Meh. I'll wait for more pics. I like the proportions but god I hope that car "cape" is just mistransformed.

>>6147680
Some of those (Arcee, Perceptor, Wheeljack) took YEARS to come out from the becginning of the concept in 2006.

Tracks, did we ever get a G1 version of him? I know there was the remold of Wheeljack, but that's not really G1.

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>>6147427
I don't understand why people complain so much about CW being too simple, the original combiners used ridiculously simple robots. Fuck, CW even went out of its way to give them heads that didn't double as combination ports and proportionate arms that didn't accomodate to the arm modes so they could have good robot modes.
At most, I can understand having to pay 20 dollars for a toy that's inferior in every sense to stuff released between 2006 and 2011 and sometimes having to do it twice just to complete a combiner.

>>6147289
I hope he gets repainted in his movie 1 colors. Not a fan of that blue.

>>6147702
The Wheeljack retool is currently the only CHUG Tracks we have.

I think the Tracks version of the mold came out first, though.

>>6147723
If they simplified and shrunk the MP a bit that'd be perfect.

>>6147729
With the aesthetic CHUG's been going with recently, downsized MPs would work pretty well since everything's been so g1.

Voyager scaled versions of Soundwave, Shockwave, and the Seekers would make me cum buckets.

>>6147705

Theres always sacrifices with combiners. Even the 3P ones have some sacrifices, and they cost $100 per limb on average.

It's just part and parcel of the whole thing. You can't design a combining toy without some kind of shit being a little "off" somewhere from whatever made up limit of acceptability is in your head.

Personally, I love the CW stuff. It's great. It's the best combiners we've ever gotten outside of a few of the 3P ones, and even then, the majority of 3P ones are so fucking bad CW shits all over them in terms of engineering despite how simple it is.

>>6147731
See. We can go smaller.

I want a whole line of Hybird Styles.
I wouldn't mind a little bit of partsforming if they had great articulation and somewhat decent alt modes.

Hell, even expand out in the generations a bit. Give me a Superlink Convoy THS style,

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Damn, these two really do mesh together pretty well. Any other really good TM & Body combos?

Also, who was Sawback anyway? I don't remember this guy from anything at all.

>>6146998
One sold on eBay recently for $34. Free shipping. Too expensive for you still?

>>6147798
Loudmouth+HotRod is nice-looking imo

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>>6147798
Sawback, originally known as Lione, is some turbo literal who bottom of the barrel character that was on screen for like a second in the Headmasters anime and got a japan only toy release that was just a head.

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>>6147809
Neat, I was not aware of this

>>6147241
>I'm really really really against war toys because Hitler but Bill at Tomy is my friend so what the hell.

>>6147814
pleb.

>>6147892
Blep.

>>6147755
All I want from 3P combiners now is a redo of CW Motormaster.
I think there was one but it was half-partsforming, half-panels, all shit.

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>>6147947

Yeah, all the current 3P Menasor's aren't so good. Theres a new one in the works, but it's following one of the shittiest Menasor designs and who knows what it'll turn out like.

>>6147330
boi, this nigga will be my new Crowbar (I'll make him a new head)

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New to transformer/toy collecting. Where can I find info on when new toys come to stores? I kind of like going to the store itself to pick stuff. Makes it sort of nostalgic from when I was a kid.

I was hoping to get that new Sixshot and most sites say he ships in January but no one near me has one. I guess there is still 6 days left but I was wondering if there was a way to know exactly when they come to target, toysrus, ect.

I just found a giant blaster at Toys R Us. He may not be soundwave, but he might be close enough. Is blaster worth it?

>>6147289
Damn, he barely looks like a movie bot. The battlemasks make the movie guys look 100 times better. Tons of guns, too.

>>6148046
I prefer that mold as Blaster rather than Soundwave. He's definitely worth it though, so is Soundwave for that matter I just already have enough of him.

>>6148058
Plus weapon storage in a place that actually makes sense!

>>6147867
*Satoshi

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>>6146370
Got this bad motherfucker in the mail on Monday.
Goddamn it's awesome looking.

MAS-01 from Toys Alliance. Officially licensed non-transforming Optimus Prime. It's massive and extremely well articulated.

Get one. You won't regret it.
>but it doesn't transform!
Fuck off.

>>6147312
I can dig that Predator head tho.

>>6148114
That looks sick as fuck? How much?

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I only know G1 Transformers but I saw these and fell in love. what gen they from?

>>6148139
Also the first part wasn't meant to be a question, that does look sick.

>>6148145
Don't remember but they're definitely worth picking up. They're my defacto Frumble forever.

>>6148139
approx 150 plus shipping

>>6148145
I think they're from Japan's Transformers United line.

>>6148151

cheers!

>>6148027
>Where can I find info on when new toys come to stores?

You don't. Unlike Takara, Hasbro has no means of dating when their toys are released. Your best bet is a sightings thread on a major Transformers fansite.

Still, I wouldn't be too worried about Sixshot. With a new movie coming out, Target and Walmart have expanded the tf section and hopefully ordered some more stock. Unless Hasbro stopped producing wave 3 voyagers/leaders and went straight to wave 4, then you should have a decent chance in March.

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>>6147535
Damn, now I wish they had given him a Judge helmet on his old head. He'd look like Judge Death because of it.

>>6147549
It would but being "Darkside Bumblebee" is pretty boring in contrast to speaking his own like Crosshairs did which gave the guy some personality.

>>6147552
I bought him and liked him purely out of two reasons
-Stop motion from Mirasoltwins back in the day
-A bitch to kill in Transformers The Game