Third Party General.

My impossible dream is more Beast Wars stuff, primarily non-show characters and Transmetals.

Also more stylized figures like Striker Manus, and Japanese G1 stuff like Masterforce figures with articulated Masters.

>>6146157
>What are you hoping to see after CNY?
We'll never get it but I want a mtmte Whirl and an oversized RTS style Lugnut.

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>>6146190

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My impulse purchase arrived. And it came smashed on the side.

>>6146204
Damn, that sucks. Where the hell did you order from that they didn't bother to pad out the sides at all?

>>6146190
>no arm ratchets
>"hands" held on by clips
>can barely stand

>>6146204
>got a Kultur

Lucky bastard.

>>6146204
Hey I got a kultur too! Let's celebrate!

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does anyone's sixshot have absurdly tight joints?
mine has tight forearms swivel and waist slider

[Toyhasnospoiler]waiting for tfsource to stock my fucking mp soundwave[justtfsourcemyshitup]

Cant wait for mtmte megs and bludgeon, def getting the px seeker trio, maybe trypticon depending on hastaks version

In general i just want more classics scaled stuff of out there characters with sexy comic or video game stylings, shit like g2 randos like aquaspeeders, laser rods, beast wars updates, a voyager sized foc shockwave for christ sake planet x hurry up, you know, cool shit

>>6146401
Im waiting on tfsource to get my Kultur in, do they ever get things in?

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>>6146231
Planet Steel express. I don't keep boxes and nothing was damaged so it all worked out.

>>6146269
>>6146344

He's definitely not awful but holy fuck the arms and hands are more shrimpy than I thought. The cannon piece that holds the guns together is way too big and doesn't align them like the art either. The alt mode is way off and the extra treads on the legs are unnecessary if they just did the shoulders right. The face sculpt under the mask is not worth the dead eyes and the flat mask though you get a lot of range with the head. The only tolerance thing I've found is that the treads that flip up on the shoulder doesn't lock in from what I can tell so MMC's crappy quality streak ended here. Not sure if I beat the horse enough. He's solid, even pretty good despite the design. It's just not nearly as good as he could have been.

Titanika is pretty fucking awesome despite the greebling mostly visible in vehicle mode. The colors and breakup, both plastic and paint, are superb, while the figure unfolds into a wide ass vehicle that rolls like a champ. The way the kibble sits and the feet form from the wheels just speak to me as a great transformer design. The beef is what I dig the most about the whole thing and its great to go from mode to mode and the headsculpt brings it together.

The shoulders are the biggest contention I have with it. It's reasonably limited thanks to the bulk and you can even untab the backpack and get a near 90 degree angle, but when put all together the pads bang into itself like Commotus but multiple times worse. The guns look great but the stock end extends too far back and just gets jammed in the shoulder pad too. While I like the knuckle guards the detailing on them looks a little silly and could have been a lot more fierce. In vehicle mode they are obviously arm assemblies from the back so better detailing wouldn't have killed Sark. I can't tell if there is a waist or not, but its too tight on mine to force if it exists.

>>6146204
How weird, my PSX Kultur order had black plastic corner pieces taped on all the outside corners. Took me forever to get it open and it had foam padding on all sides as well.

Bad luck? Lazy packer? Glad yours wasn't damaged.

>>6146428
Will another TARN be done?

>>6146428
he doesn't look good
especially when standing next to strika

>>6146487
Lets hope so.

>>6146488
That fucking waist and how skinny his upper torso is I think.

>>6146428
Still waiting for TCP to get theirs.

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More teasers for the Noir weapon pack.

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Honestly, kultur lpoks fantastic if you're still used to official transformers, not masterpiece and SOC level stuff

Anyone have planet x gammadim? How is he, what differences from genesis does he have aside from color?

>>6146728
>if you're still used to official transformers, not masterpiece and SOC level stuff
That's my secret, anon. I already own SoC and 1/60 Valkyries.

For people that own Quantron, are there any pieces that don't go into the combined mode that I should be aware of? I'm selling my friend's and I combined it for him way back when it first came out, and it sat on his shelf since. I'm going to look through the instructions, but wanted to be sure from someone that owns it them self.

>>6147828

So long as the fuck heug bow is on him the only extra parts are the metal storm gun that combines with the landing skid and the individual robot guns that can attach to the limbs.

>>6146364
This is kinda common for IF releases.

>>6146364

IF's always had a problem with tolerances being just a bit too tight. Dunno how they haven't managed to get it perfect yet with how often they put out releases compared to a lot of other companies.

>>6146233

Uhhh... I haven't messed with mine in a while, but I seem to remember arm ratchets. He was pretty sturdy.

>>6148062

Props to them for actually making Brawl's treads actually move.

The combiner isn't looking so hot. It's not terrible despite some of the funky looking shit going on with the shoulders but it doesn't feel outstanding.

what'd be the best gun/rifle to pair with diaclone v2?

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Man, how did I miss spartan's toe guns until now.

>>6148062
Looks like the waist and thighs partsform again.

But are those partsforming elbows too? The fuck?

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>Clear Gravity builder
>Clear

I give it one transformation before something cracks.

Look who showed up today. My first figure of the bunch, and I gotta say, I like what is here.

Is it the dream? IS POSEIDON THE FUCKING 3RD PARTY COMBINER DREAM!? ARE WE FINALLY GETTING A STURDY SCRAMBLiNG COMBINER?!

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>>6148517
>forgot pic
kill me

>>6148517
>ARE WE FINALLY GETTING A STURDY SCRAMBLiNG COMBINER?!
Yes? Why is this surprising? Three of the limbs have been out for weeks now and people have had nothing but good things to say about. Did you think adding an arm was going to change that?

>>6148513
At least its cheap.

>>6148273
>But are those partsforming elbows too? The fuck?
I know right? Its almost like they took what worked on their other successful set and used it here. Fuck me right?????

>>6148567
The issue being that on Devy, partsforming the lower arm is expected, and impressive if averted well enough. On Bruticus, the forearms are part of the limb bots, so I can see why anon would have an issue with it. What I don't get is why they couldn't do traditional combiner elbows like they did on the Throttlebot Combiner.

>>6148517
>>6148518

Why'd you nab lobsterbot first?

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>>6148513
>they made this shit
>but they couldn't do a money saving all-in-one set of the original guys

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anyone excited??
it's coming out march right?

>>6148635
I think I want him but I really want to see color pics first.

>>6148513
WHY.

Unless he is made of fucking gorilla glass and diamonds i see no way he will be durable enough to POSE.

>>6148635
I'd assume so considering that's when IF Bruticus is rumored for release.

>>6148660
That soon!? Shit! I gotta get on it!

>>6148635
He looks so good, but I got the Takara Legends Shockwave and I'm so in love with it that idk if I need to upgrade. But WOW it would be a nice upgrade

>>6148230
tfw its impossible to buy him online :,(

>>6148702
Ankle tilts dude, ankle tilts.

>>6148702
why not? they both look distinctively different anyway

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>>6148635
You were expecting not-Shockwave? SURPRISE, IT'S ENERGON SIXSHOT.

So what's the best third party Transformers toy you've bought, anon?

>>6148753
IF Evil Lord. Nothing else I've bought has even come close to how fun he is and how much I enjoy him.

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>>6148766
you have IF shadow tengu? how does he compare to evil lord? i might go back and look for evil lord if he's as good as shadow tengu

>>6148795
I don't sorry, EL is the only IF I have so far. I have a bunch of figures from MMC, Fans Toys and MakeToys though and Evil Lord is more fun than any of those honestly but from what I've heard Tengu is pretty great in his own right.

>>6148753
Probably Commotus.

>>6148612
Honestly I'm not sure. Probably because I just jad other figures on my list before I started building Poseidon. Will probably finish him up by end of march methinks. Will probably get a bot per paycheck.

>>6148513

>not a giftset of the original deco
>not a yellow g2 repaint
>not a SG white and red repaint
>not a black repaint
>but a clear version
>of a combiner

why

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Kultur is a fun ok figure. Glad he is going to get another run for the people that missed out.

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>>6149123 missile toe.

>>6148745
I would still buy that.

>>6148795
Tengu's sitting in my PoL, but Evil Lord is a ton fun. Definitely recommended. He is a partsformer of course, but that's par for the course for Overlord.

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>>6149123
the missiles are removable too.

>>6149123
>>6149141
>>6149144
Is TCP's shipment just delayed or what? Keep seeing people get him in but mine hasn't shipped yet.

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>>6148795

Evil lord is partsformery to an insane degree. Some of it really should have been integrated better for some options. You can sort of finagle fanmodes but they aren't entirely secure. Pic related doesn't use one of the back ramps and the gun barely slips in between the feet but it looks ok enough from the front and you don't have to remove any parts.

The bot mode is great though. The ab crunch really helps it.

>>6149211
Planet Steel Express magically had a lot more come in stock right when he hit and everyone panic ordered. It's how I got mine.

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>Megatooth in-stock on BBTS
>fukken smashes that order button

Yessss. This will be a good birthday after all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mioh5AFdgrA

Have some Ditka.

Are there any third party combiner wars hands out there?
I love my Sky Lynx but those hands are really shitty and limiting.

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>>6149319
Try Perfect Effect

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I decided to go through the process of adding the new neckjoint to my Ironshell from TFC. Poseidon looks a great deal better with the neck part. It moves it forward just about an inch and makes the proportions a bit more tasteful.

I had to destroy the previous neckpart that came on the stock ironshell, cut the pin, remove the pin parts. After doing that, sand the black paint layer off the new pin, drill the pre-existing hole on the neck part so the pin would slide better, and then finally pop it all together. Great deal of work but I'm happy with it now.

To anyone who owns TFC Poseidon limbs, be careful with the silver paint. It can scrape easily.

Here's the after. (mind you, different poses because he can hardly fit in a detolf.)

>>6149219
>Planet Steel Express magically had a lot more come in stock right when he hit
Makes me think all that "extra" stock was supposed to originally be for shipments to the US retailers and PSE/MMC didn't want to lose out on extra sales so they delayed shipping to them so they could miraculously pull out all these extras and sell them themselves.

>>6149381
Looks pretty awesome and I can't wait for Thousand Kills!

>>6149381
Is there a way to replace the joint without destroying parts, or is it inevitable?

Also, when they release their BWII repaint of the mold (as teased in one of the included comics), will they have the new neck joint pre-made, or leave it to the customer(s)?

>>6149381
the head's still far too small for the rest of the toy.

I decided to cave in and get Carnifex since I've heard so much about him. Is there anything I should be aware of when I get him though, are the shoulders really as bad as people say?

>>6149338
Thanks.
Does anybody have these?
Are they worth getting?

I kind of want to see some more before I drop $33 plus shipping on some hands and feet.

>>6149431
No clue about the second

In regards to the first, i used a pin punch and didn't succeed in removing it. The pin was in so tight I had to use full sized pliers to remove the pinparts. I wanted to do it without destroying the old parts, but I figured it wouldn't matter after throwing it altogether anyways. They give you an extra pin.

>>6149476
Just the KOs on ebay. They're fine. I have one original pair and the rest are all KOs and I can barely tell the difference.

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>>6149381
>It moves it forward just about an inch
Its like, 1/4 of an incha, 2/3 at most dude. Either way, it does look good, especially when you view the figure from low angles.

>sand the black paint layer off the new pin
That's not just paint, its a moisture barrier to prevent rust......

>>6149446
Shoulders are just confusing the first few transformations.

One tip is that before you slide the backpack down, open it up and untab the wings from the back since those are what hold it in place. The instructions don't tell you this and i makes for some really frightening moments.

>>6149431
>Is there a way to replace the joint without destroying parts

It MIGHT be possible, but because of the force you need to remove it, its highly likely you would end up breaking something else in the process.

>>6149490

Cool.

TFC even suggests doing it, so I guess they're wrong.

I'm happy with it. That's pretty much all that matters to me.

>>6149562
Awesome.
Enjoy your fucked up $500 combiner :^)

>>6149569

Thanks, anon.

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I won this silly little bastard on ebay for $10. I don't really have any love for g1 designs but I do have a soft spot for robotic sabertooths (thanks to power rangers and Zoids). He's actually kind of endearing. And very well-made, like in terms of quality. The plastic feels really nice. I don't think I need the whole team, but if I could snag the megaloceras at a similar price I would.

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You don't have to remove the master for beast mode like though, but he can come out and ride on him as an option. And since it's an option that makes it more fun. Also the handle of his head-gun ends up inside his mouth in beast mode to look like a little cannon in there when he opens his mouth. If these had just had a little bit of articulation in bot mode and less of a pin head look, these would have been fantastic. I know that would have defeated the purpose of a retro design, but it feels like there a lot of wasted potential in there. Maybe I'll give it new limbs.

>>6148062
So its safe to assume that ToyWorld is actively trying to make shitty looking toys?

>>6149437

Small heads and huge bodies are a thing. It's to give an illusion of massive size.

>>6149589
>>6149597
That set if probably my favorite 3P thing. The entire presentation was great, from the was it was sold, the packaging, the "lost" fifth piece, even the sticker book.

>>6149716
What was the lost piece? I do love the packaging a lot. Especially the fact that the headmaster had his own little bubbled card.

>>6149726
The one with the Korean box. I thought he was the fourth though.

>>6149726
FPCore had a blog post that the fifth piece - Megazero, the elk - was on the boat to the US, but a crew member was so engrossed in playing with the toy, he knocked the whole shipment into the water with a crane, and it was lost at the bottom of the ocean.

Fortunately, FP "found" a lost supply of Korean versions of Megazero, and that's what we got. So megazero came in a Sonnokong-like Korean packaging.

>>6149735
>>6149738
Aw, that's fun. Megazero is the other one I'd like to get.

>>6149738
>but a crew member was so engrossed in playing with the toy, he knocked the whole shipment into the water
Dude.... That was an april fools gag.

>>6148513
I only want this in G2 yellow, because as a regular Devy it just has no place in my collection. But as someone who's an enthusiast of "realistic" alt-modes, I'd love to see this in more realistic(or G2) colors.

>>6149776
Pretty sure they know that it was just for fun, hence the quote marks around the "found" Korean supply.

>>6149505
I'll be mindful of that. Thank you!

>>6149211

I just got a shipping notice from TCP.

Jinbao oversized warbotron bruticus, are there any issues i need to know about? My boyfriend preordered one of the 2nd run set for my birthday recently and i wanted to know what to expect.

>>6150336
Benscollectables has a vid on it.

>>6149761
Good fucking luck finding him and Razerspike

>>6149486
Thanks man.

>>6150572
I was hoping for under 15 minutes of information, basic breakdowns of the differences and simplifications ONLY.

Does anyone knoiw what size shockwave would be proper for bruticus? Or have a pic comparing the jinbao OS with CW superion?


I have a targetroid starscream and i want to know how tiny he would be compared to jinbruticao.

I don't normally come in here because I usually can't afford third party figures but i've got some fun cash so i'm looking to do something a little different.

I'm not up on all the third party stuff so can someone help me? I need like a top five third party Optimus Prime list or something.

Also if anyone has their own ideas on any fun or cool ones outside of the ol' Optimi lemme know.

>>6150761
Barring add-on kits, Striker Manus is the only full, standalone 3rd party optimus mold I've ever bought. It's insanely articulated and plastic quality is great. The design is really loosely based off of classics 06 optimus.

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How far off is this from kultur's transformation?

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I would LOVE to see an OS KO of kultur in these colors.


>SG Tarn, Ensuring all the lost cybertronians have gifts of brand new T-cogs! everyone!

>>6150779
Oh yeah, I forgot about add-on kits. I kinda want that Kup head replacement with the cygar for my Kup.

The only third party thing I ever bought was that Transformers animated one with the Ratchet hand magnets and the Allspark. It was pretty neat.

I also kinda want that MTMTE Tailgate one with the Cyclonus upgrade but I don't have a Cyclonus atm.

Are there any good Knight Morpher Commander options left? or do I have to hope to get lucky?

>>6150836
Nope. KMC looks good but it's shit quality, even the supposed "fixed" rerelease.

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DAAAAAAAMMMNNNN
dem feets tho

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>>6150926
>looks over at CW Menasor propped up against a wall

fuck.

>>6150787
>trenchbull
Kek, that guy made furry porn once upon a time

>>6150926
I like everything but the head. I'm like the only person who actually really liked the CW head.

>>6150761
Best third party primes eh? Someone is sure toi have a list.

PEOPLE, WE SHOULD MAKE A BUNCH OF CHECKLISTS FOR THE CHARACTERS WITH MULTIPLE OPTIONS AND ONE FOR THE OC BOTS! (And kos worth pursuing get a mention as well.)

>>6150944

>knowing that

Furfag!

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>>6150761
There are a bunch in the works and some that are out. Striker Manus is a favorite, the new Gcreations IDW prime is like the art stepped out into plastic form, Planet X Jupiter has a sexy FOC Prime, and Spark Toys has a dreamwave beefcake. There's a bunch of powermasters and scourges too. Pic related.


I'm personally waiting for Generation Toy's IDW Prime.


>>6150787
Entirely accurate actually minus the head which flips out instead of pops out. Kultur is really easy to transform.

>>6150997
Okay, who's making that Scourge on the right? It's rare that I see third party redesigns that capture the essence of the original that well.

>>6151004
Fanshobby
They're also making Overlord, Masterforce super ginrai, Laser Prime and the monsterbots

>>6150997
Are these both masterpiece scale figures?

>>6150926
I'm so fucking glad that Motormaster is part of a Menasor that looks as good. I wasn't sure if it was a combiner or not when I initially saw it.

>>6148062
Someone, please assure me that TW wasn't stupid enough to parts-form elbows.

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>>6148062
>two companies finally get Bruticus' arms right
>legends
>partsforming hell

God is punishing us for our moral degeneracy.

>>6151031

Supposedly yes.

Also the two first offerings from Fanshobby seem to be good as well if the reviews so far are any indication. It made me take a chance and order Megatooth (aka Not-Repugnus).

>>6151188
I'm looking forward to it.

>>6150926
I'm still not sure about this set. I really like the look of it all (and Motormaster especially looks super good) but from what I've seen, it looks like the scale doesn't work with CHUG figures. Does anybody have any of the already released Stunticon cars that they could show next to a Generations deluxe class figure in both bot and alt mode? Preferably another car like Sunstreaker, Sideswipe, Tracks/Wheeljack, etc.

>>6151241

They are MP scaled to go with the idw MP designs generation toy and g creations are doing. They are about the same size as mp sideswipe.

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>>6151241

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>>6151344

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YEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

>>6151169
>>6151188

TW is just taking the combiner strat of partsforming to high hell with their stuff. It has plenty of benefits but it means that there's a ridiculous amount of spare parts when it's not a combiner.

>>6151514

It's just the nature of combiners. I'd rather have a better figure with parts leftover than a slightly less good figure with integrated parts.

Of course, I have no idea if those TW combiners are any good at all, I don't own any of them. I'm just saying. Storing extra parts isn't much of an issue, you buy a tackle box, that solves everything.

>>6151349

So judging by the transformation and kibble etc. Iron Factory's Seekers and Coneheads are basically enhanced versions of the regular Legends class seeker mold.

>>6151522

I think Iron Factory in general as far as 3Ps go has transformations that are the most like (non-MP) official figures, because they tend to go with the most straightforward/simple transformation possible. The only reason there aren't more frequent 1-to-1 matches between their figures and official ones is that they tend to do Cybertronian modes and Hasbro tends to do Earth ones. But in cases like the Seekers or like Black Shadow when they do regular alt-modes, they do the transformations pretty much the same as official figures.

Iron Factory has done a really good job of reminding me how much I like simple Transformers and made me really realize that that's not actually the part I find underwhelming about recent official figures.

>>6151349
Will Starscream be available by himself or will I have to buy a set like with the datsuns?

>>6151517
>It's just the nature of combiners.
That's only true if you need your combiners to be larger than the sum of the parts.

So now we have 3 third party Jazz offerings

how do they compare?

So my last 3P purchase was Spartan and I've been out of the loop on new releases. Any recommendations on what's currently available? Preferably not a combiner and not over $200.

>>6151540

He's by himself with cape and crown. TTC and SW are also single figure releases but without the crown and cape. THe Coneheads are a set of 3.

>>6151537

I like Iron Factory, but they do tend to rely on parts-forming way too much. Even if it's little things like City Commander's Hammer head in vehicle mode. Didn't get the Tactical Staff due to the whole robot mode door wings being the way they are.

I think there strongest figures for me are Blizzard, even if his jet mode is a vague-Cybetronian-thingy, the Fem-bots, Slipstream when?

>>6151517
>>6151556

The TW constructicons were alright but had shitty CQ issues with some figures. They re-released them as a boxed set currently available for pre order for 150 bucks cheaper than buying them individually. The boxed set also comes with some more gewun parts if that sorts your taste.

Basically, wait for the better V2 figures re-released as a boxed set instead of being an early adopter cuck and getting shafted like Devastator buyers were.

>>6151582
>He's by himself with cape and crown. TTC and SW are also single figure releases but without the crown and cape. THe Coneheads are a set of 3.
Awesome, thanks for the info.

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>£190+ for a hunk of plastic

People actually buy these? Even with Diecast its way too much.

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eBay had a $15 off coupon last night, and I impulse bought this. I overpaid, but its a bit tricky to find Commotus now, it seems. While I kinda regret not buying some new hotness like Sovereign or Kultur, I'm trying to go through the backlog of stugg I missed out on first, and Commotus was one of the first 3P figures I really wanted but never got.

He'll be my second 3P figure. I got Quakeblast about a month ago; I've been meaning to buy more but I collect so many other lines they get pushed aside. aiming for Feral Rex, next, or a Gigapower Dino.

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>>6151603
>Basically, wait for the better V2 figures

The cycle is never wrong.

I wish someone would make a better version of it though.

>>6151682
He'll make a great second 3P figure, I'm sure you'll like him.

>>6151572

Maketoys is probably going to end up being the best, I'd wager.

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>>6151577

Theres probably over 200+ things out since Spartan released. What are you looking for bro? Theres plenty of ways to burn money, you just gotta be more specific as to what you like.

>>6151631

Depends on the hunk of plastic you're talking about. It is a bit frightening though that TF stuff is popular enough to support it's own high quality unofficial merchandise though.

Who ever thought nostalgia could be this powerful?

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>>6151577

If you liked Spartan get Titanika. Very similar feel and style. Not a pile of junk hampered by shit Q/C that was every other MMC release sans Carnifex.

>>6151732
>Not a pile of junk hampered by shit Q/C that was every other MMC release

You mean the newer releases. Most of the Reformatted line has been good.

>>6151705
It is weird that Transformers have the only major 3rd party toy market that I am aware of.

It seems like Overwatch (of all things) is starting to gain a significant 3rd party prescience.
Hopefully more properties will get the same treatment.

>>6151732
>shit Q/C
As far as I'm aware, MMC didn't really have QC problems outside of their earliest shit. If you're talking about the Jaegertiplets, that was all problems with the design and engineering itself.
>every other MMC release sans Carnifex.
Feral Rex is great and from what I hear, the fembots, Hexatron, and the later Knight Morpher stuff was all very well received.

I think Jaegertron and his spawn and Seraphicus are really the only weak links they've put out recently. Dunno about any of the Ocular Max stuff though besides Jaguar and he's actually pretty fuckin great.

>>6151759

I have Feral Rex and most of the fembots, they're all ace. My only gripe is the fembots FEEL flimsy but aren't, its kind of deceptive.

I think a lot of folks can atest to Hexatron being good.

>>6151734
I think it's almost only the Ocular Max stuff that keeps getting hit, which sucks because the designs are great.

>>6151748
Gunpla has a pretty significant 3rd party market.

>>6151769

Nah, their Not-Lockdown was kind of crap too from what people were saying. Definitely not up to par with previous releases.

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No one cares but this guy is stupidly endearing. I won't shell out the $150 for the whole set but I might keep an eye out for some of the other limbs at a reasonable price. I'm glad I got the sabertooth though, it was the one I wanted most.

>>6151839

3 of the limbs were 10 bux at TFS.

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Hi ho, Saber! Away!

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>>6151572
This one, Toyworld's attempt, is strangely endearing to me. Its a bit awkward, but I'm hugely into realistic alt-modes, and his is fantastic. I love how he feels like something out of a super detailed 80's OVA.

MT's is fantastic, too, though.

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>>6151842
I should've have jumped on them then, oh well. I'm sure someone will get rid of them at some point.

>>6151865
Don't worry. People can't seem to get rid of these things, they'll definitely go on deep discounts at some point again. They're not a bad set or anything, just, well...They copied the G1 aesthetic too well by making them absolute bricks.

If they kept the brick look but added modern articulation the set would've been great.

>>6151854
That body shame is just all kinda of fucked, imo

>>6151881
Oh fuck me I meant shape

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>>6151875
For real, I would have been all over them if they'd had more.

As it is I'm genuinely considering trying to add some. Ball joints at the shoulder, lengthen the lower arms, split the lower legs and replace the actual legs themselves. If I end up getting the whole set I'll probably try it on the extra Fangro.

As is, he's just a cute little oddity in my collection.

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While I'm not a fan of the cw/uw Devs mold or combined form, I'm tempted to get one because it's the cheapest option for a contructicon set. Do any of you guys have experiences with any of the add-on kits for it?

>>6151971
I have the DNA kit and I really like it. The bits of it actually look like weapons when not being used.

>>6151973
Is the DNA one just one complete set, or is it a clusterfuck of set A, B and C?

>>6149791

Before you slide the backpack at all, make sure the wings are folded out. Up or down, doesn't matter which way you're pushing the backpack, don't fold the wings back into the backpack before attempting to move it. Thats a major fault of the instructions, even the online ones don't tell you to do this, and you can definitely risk breaking something if you don't unfold the wings completely out of the backpack.

And no, the shoulders aren't bad, they're just confusing to work with the first time or so because it feels like what you're doing is probably wrong. Again, due to the instructions. Once you get it figured out, it's easy.

>>6151979
Just one.

I don't like the new mixer cab, but I also don't care about which kind of cement mixer he is.

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>Megatooth shipped, should be here around the 2nd

I'm probably the only person in the whole thread hyped about this thing, but I can't wait. Repugnus was one of my absolute favorites, he survived most of my childhood into adulthood, and then I lost him while moving.

>>6151971

There is a KO of dx9 hulkie for $50 or so, goes by Hercules.

>>6152149
Oh snap, I didn't know about that. Any word on the quality?

UHOH

Deathclaws combiner joint is significantly tighter (like my fucking god too tight to bend, as in it just won't) than any other TFC Poseidon limb. I need people to report back on this to know if it's just me or if the Combiner set rule still stands...because man now I am worried.

>>6152236
>if the Combiner set rule still stands

The rule where you wait for an entire set to be out and fully reviewed before buying a single piece of it?

That rule is always standing.

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>>6152236
>buying a combiner before it's fully out

Hey /toy/, going to Hong Kong for the first time in about two weeks and I wanted to keep an eye out for any 3rd party TF, anyone know where I can buy them? Does any stores there sell them? Is it cheaper to hunt for them there instead of ordering online (I live in Canada)

Does the TFC Hercules set hold up at all in 2017?

>>6152337
holds up as well as Cybertron Optimus Prime.

if you like it, and know it's limits, it's fucking sweet.

if you want a perfect updated G1 devastator, get UW and upgrade it.

>>6151989

I am also hyped. I also really like their scourge tho...

>>6151682

He was my first 3P and I love it to bits still.

>>6151697

I'm mostly looking for figures of characters that don't have official releases. My current 3P collection is fairly small and includes Spartan as I said, Mania King, Apex and Gemini, Gauntlet, Grant and Chaos Paladin. I also have Hardbone and Assaulter, though I'm going to get rid of Hardbone while thinking Assaulter is a better Broadside than the upcoming one. Carnifex caught my eye as well as the various not-Thunderwings, but I haven't watched any reviews for them yet.

>>6151732
Are there any plans to do the other vehicon generals? Titanika looks pretty sweet, but I need the rest of the crew to match up since the Beast Machine figures mostly aren't so good.

>>6152455
Obsidian is coming soon from IDW whirl.

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Finally got around to taking some good pics of deathclaw.

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>>6152579

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>>6152581
He comes with a ton of weapons.
Gun, two axes, two swords.

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>>6152585

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Huh, there's now an oversize KO of that legends Megatron. Same as Grimlock.

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>>6152589

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>>6152593

>>6152579
>>6152581
I do like how the head of the alt mode can be used as a shield.

I wonder if the recolor set will include him, since the BWII God Neptune didn't have a lobster bot.

>>6152236

Are you trying to force it with your hands? Did you try to use the handle piece for the gun mode that comes with each limb to wedge the joint out?

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Hes my favorite by far, in both robot and alt mode. My only complaint is that his ankles can be a pain in the dick to pose because of all the lobster feet being attached to the robot foot.

What's a suggested addon kit for Combiner Wars Devastator to make the individual parts stand on their own?

>>6152632
>My only complaint is that...

Oh, also, I had to tighten all his lobster feet before they would support his weight in alt mode.

>>6152592
>that hand

What is the best Quintesson figure? I need one to go with the legends sharkticons.

>>6152652
sadly their aren't many. I think Alpha quintesson from Transformers energon is the best as far as a toy goes, but other than that the only ones available are really quite small and are just..... well meh statueshit.

>>6152643
>DonaldTrumpDemosLegendsMegatron.jpg

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>>6152455

Just an Obsidian from their sort of stupid whirl.

>>6152300

IIRC action robo is in Hong Kong. Their physical store should have things that aren't in the states yet and cheaper if you're paying from converted burgerbux. They might have some prototypes on display too.

>>6152151
Hercules is balls cheap now and still an incredible figure. He's just CHUG as fuck

>>6151631
When you make more than that in a day it feels unreasonable but it fits into the budget

>>6150926
the 2 Dragstrips are temp right?

>>6150935
kek

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Are any of the IDW inspired OPs voyager sized? I'm considering finally just getting MP10v since it's probably the best voyager OP we'll get for quite some time.

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>>6151732
I'd like to see someone do a Bulkhead out of this mold. It would fit the character so well.

>>6152854
I would buy that 100%.

>>6152854

Honestly, given the weird spikeball fists I just assumed there might've been some kind of CHUG Bulkhead planned, but I guess not.

>>6152822
toyworld released one called orion but it's kinda dated

>>6152854
>passed on Bulkhead when he was sitting for 4 dollars

Oh well

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>>6152933

FE bulkhead is one of the last great voyager molds and is up there with the best. The expansion from a compact truck to tubby bot is extremely clever. You fucked up.

I peeked at the line up of official TR and voyagers and almost vomited. At least the deluxe class look ok for the most part, even if lacking.

>>6152978
>I peeked at the line up of official TR and voyagers and almost vomited. At least the deluxe class look ok for the most part, even if lacking.

Oh c'mon, they're perfectly fine for $15-$24 toys.

Unless you live somewhere where they're not that price. In which case, yeah, ok, then it's overpriced as fuck.

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Damn, that's a nice looking truck mode for such a small thing.

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I'll definitely be picking this up if they do a standalone (and preferably non-clear) version.

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>>6152985

They're missing basic points of articulation on the larger size classes that was almost semi-standard on figures until the new design team took over. It's like a mandate that wrists and ankle rockers aren't allowed when engineering isn't the limiting factor. They are now few and far between.

Paint detailing is now being replaced with stickers that don't even conform with the sculpted detail.

Also the new voyagers look like this and they're going for $30 in my area.

>>6153053
To be fair, ankle rockers have always been rare, even on the accepted "highpoint" of official releases, 2009-2010.

>>6153089
I personally hate the "sculpted at an angle" feet they do now. I thought Transformers were REEUHLISTYK now so why make the feet look like bendy cartoon material? I want just straight legs.

>>6153053
>Also the new voyagers look like this

Those two are also pre-tools for the actual characters of the mold: Octane and Blitzwing, and if you've been paying attention to TR at all, you've seen them shortchange the pre-molds for the actual characters. Look at how little paint Blurr/Sentinel/etc has compared to Brainstorm/Astrotrain/etc.

>>6153111
Except Blurr isn't a premold of Brainstorm, it's the other way around

>>6153092
>I thought Transformers were REEUHLISTYK now

When was this claimed? 2008-2010 or so was the era of trying to make everything realistic alt-modes.

>>6148567
>Its almost like they took what worked on their other successful set and used it here.
It comes across as lazy in terms of design.

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>>6151971
Why spend money on a figure then even more just to clean him up when you can get better alternatives? Just save up

>>6153467
Diminishing returns.

>>6153485
I don't think that means what you think it means.

Kultur got here today. His alt mode is a little dorky thanks to the core of the turret being surprisingly skinny but other than that he's a lot of fun.

>>6153819
>no Kultur's anywhere
>next fucking shipment of the fucker isn't for months

Way to fuck up, MMC. Way to shit the goddamn bed.

>>6153467
Fewer greebles

>>6153092
>I personally hate the "sculpted at an angle" feet they do now
Glad I'm not the only one. Looks terrible and just draws attention to them being too cheap to just give them ankle articulation.

It's especially bad on figures like the Combiner Wars semi cab mold where the ratchet joints for the hips can't even accommodate the A-stance properly!

>>6152592
How big is that oversize Grimlock? I was thinking about buying it but i don't want it to be around deluxe scale.

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>>6152822
MP10v is worth it, problem is that the rifle it comes with is shit and it has more die-cast than regular MP-10.
I'm pretty satisfied with it but your enjoyment might vary depending on these 2 problems.

>>6153467
I got the TW scoop and I was insanely disappointed. It feels like an upscaled energon figure. I'm interested in the CW set because it's cheaper for me than spending 500 more + whatever addon set this kit is going to eventually receive.

>>6152794
Nah it's a different Hercules, not the TFC one. It's an upscaled version of the legends sized devastator, the war in pocket one.

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>>6154044
The set I pictured is being released as a box set with all add on and fixes for $469. But if you'd rather spend over $200 + 50 on up scaled legend figures.

>>6154044
the dx9 KO is not confirmed to be upscaled any.

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>>6154104
I couldn't find anything about its quality but I bit the bullet on a set last night for $48 so I guess we'll see.

I really want this g2 version and there's rumors of a shattered glass one in the pipes.

>>6152978
Hes too round for my taste but yes I did fuck up

>>6153021

Who is this made by? It looks like one of those Iron Factory kits that pairs with a Generations Toys combiner

>>6153969
hes on the small side for a voyager but he is beffier than most modern voyagers. his joints are all kind of cheap feeling though, i think its because they painted and chromed the figure.

>>6154213
>Who is this made by?
TFM
>It looks like one of those Iron Factory kits that pairs with a Generations Toys combiner
Thats exactly what it is.

>>6153827
>Way to fuck up, MMC. Way to shit the goddamn bed.
They arnt Hasbro man, they can't produce 10,000 at a time.

>>6154245

Honestly, they should've delayed that shitty Not-Lockdown and made more Kultur's with the time. How could they not anticipate the leader of the DJD being a hot seller? Shit, Vos sold out like 2-3 times.

>>6154161
Where did you get it?

Lets say I have about $300 dollars to spend and I want a whack of legends scale 3rd party stuff.

Where do I start?

>>6154335

Iron Factory, and probably with whichever ones look best to you. Only ones I know people complain about are their Not-Blitzwing because he doesn't tab too well in some spots, and their Not-Soundwave/Perceptor/Blaster, because it's all based off IDW Blaster whose altmode was kind of just....There.

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Finally got around to combining my seacons. I really like this set a lot.

>>6154338
>like $3000 worth of 3P figures in one pic

Damn son. Also Poseiden looks great, I'm just waiting for the last guy to come out because the combiner looks funny to me without the 2nd guy in Skalor(?) colors.

>>6154338
I can't help but feel the blue and white component for his right arm feels like an odd man out, huh?

>>6154303
>How could they not anticipate the leader of the DJD being a hot seller?
Im sure they did, wich is why the have 2 more runs scheduled. Again, they can only produce a finite number of these at one time.

Also, your coming off as very entitled.
>WAAA WAAA I WANT IT NOW!!! FUCK YOU MMC WAAA WAAA

>>6154344
>Also, your coming off as very entitled.

They had no problem ensuring there was plenty of any other figure they produced on release. So why should this guy be any different?

Preorders selling out everywhere damn near instantly should've been a clue to make more and fast.

>>6154343

Actually, the combiner should've had more of that pink and blue because Tentakill is supposed to be one of the legs to balance it out more. Plus the left arm is supposed to have more purple to it.

>>6154351
>So why should this guy be any different?
Becouse the demand was 3x more than any other figure they have made.

>Preorders selling out everywhere damn near instantly should've been a clue to make more

Again, they have 3 more runs scheduled.

>and fast.
No thanks. I'd rather have them done right.

>>6154351
>So why should this guy be any different?
The demand for the figure far outweighed MMC ability to produce, plain and simple. Your basically saying that they should have done three runs all at once and stockpiled the figures from the first two runs before releasesing. Thats retarded.

Any news on those Leader Class Bonecrusher or DOTM Megatron?

>>6153827
Jesus christ, dude. It's just a fucking toy. So what if you have to wait a few months. At least he is getting a reissue. Even if it's going to take some time, knowing to reissue him in the first place is the opposite of shitting the bed.

So there is good news with Kulur. MMC know they fucked up, if enough people bitch then they'll do an upgrade kit like Carnifex. Everything from the head to the weapons to the hands are fair game.

Also Nickel and the Pet are going to happen.

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>>6154361
>>6154363
>>6154365
>>6154367
Anybody know if FT Blitzwing can transform into Octane? I don't get why everybody always leaves that mode out.

>>6154424
>Also Nickel and the Pet are going to happen.

Post proof. Because I totally want a kawaii uguu Nickel for my desk.

What are some good MP scale Decpticons? I already have Despotron and love him and need minions for him to command.

Also what companies have announced/teased MP seekers?

>>6154338

What IS the 'accurate' scale for Combiners to normal sized TF?

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>>6154498
>What are some good MP scale Decpticons?
The fans toys insecticons are all really great and make great "minions".

Quakewave / Quakeblast is really good too, although Shockwave doesn't really make a great minion.

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>>6154504

Normal bots (Sideswipe to Optimus sized) should come up to a combiners shin or knee, roughly.

>>6154529

I can't get over how tiny Metroplex is despite being the 'cityformer'.

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>>6154498

Quakeblast definitely. He's hard to find though because one of the other 3P's threw a hissy fit about him so other stores don't carry him, usually you can only find him on eBay.

>>6154529

So Despotron coming up to Dev's knee is about accurate size then. >>6154338


It's a shame the Seacons are on the short side but I'm going to get them anyway.

>>6154532

Fortress Maximus really puts the "Maximus" part to show. Also even toy-wise, Metro was much smaller than FM originally.

Wonder how big an actual MP scale FM would have to be. Surely he'd have to be at least 4 or 5 feet tall, right? Chromedome there in his pic is barely up to his toe.

>>6154537

>you can cosplay FM and be scale accurate

I know what i'm doing next year!

>>6154536

Well, it all depends on the scales you're working with. I mean, if you were using a Legends sized figure as your measuring stick, you'll need a much smaller combiner than normal. If you're using an MP figure, a bigger one. That sort of thing.

>>6154542

I try to stick to CHUG, and iirc big bots like Megatron and Optimus hover around 9" in CHUG.

>>6154548

CHUG usually places them around Voyager size, so thats around 7-ish inches.

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>>6154504

There really isn't one and its up to you. In most depictions combiners are fuck huge and mass shift into something larger than their component parts. If you are aiming for that, it's best to have a few figures at a smaller scale next to the combiner to emulate that look. IE: Legends class to deluxe figures next to Maketoy's/Fansproject sized combiners, or Deluxes and Voyagers next to Toyworld's Devastator. The individual parts really don't go well when uncombined though.

If you're looking for things that are the sum of their parts like some of the scale charts a figure in the same size class as a leg limb bot should come up to about the knee or right below the waist of the combiner

Ideally a combiner should strive to make their limb bots and torso grow as much as possible when in combined mode but that shit is hard to do. Toyworld uses extra parts, though some torso do a great job fattening up and widening out like TFC's Snaptrap. Personally I just stick Iron Factory stuff next to most of my combiners and call it a day.

>>6154557

So I should buy some Iron Factory toys to go with my Feral Rex and Menasor then.

>>6154424
Fuck yes, I want a different head so bad, how do we tell them we're interested?

>>6154477
this
I want them both I dont even care what they cost

>>6154607
>>6154477

MMC hub Faceberg.

>>6154614
Thanks!

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>V.2 Megs
>Master Made Skorponok
>Toyworld Optimus if he's not a piece a shit
>Fantoys: Blitzwing, Omega Supreme, and Six Shot (Though I doubt he'll be out this year)
>Toyworld Inevitable V.2 Bruticus Boxed Set

J U S T

F U C K

M Y

W A L L E T

UP

>>6154424
>So there is good news with Kulur. MMC know they fucked up
Any sauce on where this info is coming from?

>>6154884
Read the thread, shit stick.

Where's the best place to get feral Rex? Preferably as a set. I'd like to save some money by buying them all in one go.

>>6154912
>Where's the best place to get feral Rex? Preferably as a set.
2015.

Seriously though, you kind of missed the boat on that, gonna be hard to find them all in one spot now. You can probably get the black paint box set though.

I stopped in to one of the local comic shops chain stores I've never been into last night.

Saw a TFcon 2014 MP Shafter. Surprised me nicely.

>>6155003
Do you own the mold? I'm watching optibotimus's review of axis right now and I dig the look but at 8:18 in the review he shows how under normal circumstances the figure leans at the hips until it falls backward from the weight of the backpack. Is that something future shine could fix? I can't help but be intrigued by the figure, it looks sexy.

>>6155018
No. I've had really limited handling with stuff.
Mostly Fansproject and TFC back in the late 00's.

>>6154537
>>6154540
I actually did the math on this once using mp10 as a standard mp conversion and used that pic along with a bunch of other sources from various tf media.

MP10 is about 1/20th scale in robot mode, and that pic has max at 150meters so hed be about 7.5 meters tall or about 24 feet.

Basically you could build a shed the size of max' mp scaled base mode

Or if you wanted to cosplay, assuming an avarage height of 6ft, find a 2inchish Optimus

>>6155100
>Or if you wanted to cosplay, assuming an avarage height of 6ft, find a 2inchish Optimus

So, in theory, if Iron Factory wanted to do a to scale legends class Fort Max, he'd have to be the size of the average Joestar. God damn.

Is the nottlebot combiner scramble city style or must you have each mold for combined form?

I was considering getting a better color match if i could, and as such choose specific versions of the molds i like.

>>6154895
not the guy youre replying to but I combed through their facebook and all the kultur comments on any relevant post and found jack shit

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>>6155286
So did I, and I checked their site as well. I'm not sure if we're being rused.

What is the opinion on machine boy starscream? He'd replace my modded targetroid version as a partner for MP scale bruticus.

>>6155317
might be why the guy got so defensive in >>6154895 for no reason

>>6154529
Jesus Christ Cerebros is huge

>>6155317

It's not on their facebook page apparently - it's on the MMC Hub facebook page:

/groups/376931142473960/

I'm not a member, so I can't tell you exactly what's been discussed there. But I've seen it reported elsewhere that the MMC head honcho wants to do an upgrade set if both Kultur and the Carnifex upgrade set sell well. Apparently he particularly wants to fix the mask.

>>6154103
I mean it's 469+s&h+ the 100 I spent on the first scoop. The novelty of the design wore off and if I were to pick, I'd rather get a gravity builder.

>>6154912
You can try to get the NeoArt toys KOs. Their quality is almost as good as the genuine MMC one.

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>>6155667
>I'd rather get a gravity builder.

>>6155557
>one youtube guy a few months back warned 3P's were getting ready to pull the "put out something knowingly 'off' just a bit so they can release an upgrade kit later' scheme
>all of a sudden this is popping up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci06rwbxsa0

Bippity Skellybop reviews MT Jazz.

>>6155946
Fucking hell MMC, and of course they'd do it on the one figure they knew everyone was excited about and wanted. If they keep this shit up people wont preorder their figures anymore cause they're waiting to get the "fixed" version.

>>6156163
That's one reason I stopped getting the FP Dinobots on their first run, they kept having to go back and fix stuff.

>>6156163

Still not sure why people have issues with Kultur, other than it's retardedly limited first release.

From pictures (since I don't own one yet because of the above), he looks about right. I'm not really seeing whats "off" about the guy.

>>6156199
I've mentioned it in one of these previous threads but I'm the guy who saw him early on in-person at tfcon and he was disappointing to say the least. It's the proportions, his torso is tiny and it makes his arms and legs look overly long and gangly; and the mask with the black dead-eyes was a real turn off too. I mean I preordered the bastard anyway since it's the only one we're probably going to get but a little more work on MMC's part to fix the mask and a few other things would have been nice. At least they improved the hands though I guess?

He wasn't horrible looking by any means it was more of just "oh" when it should have been "holy shit!".

>>6155747
It could be worse, he could have preferred TW's constructor.

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Why is deathclaw the single greatest thing TFC has ever made?

>>6151682
If you bought it from Canada, fuck you.

Also, good job.

>>6157114

Because their Not-Tentakill hasn't been released yet.

Also they have a REALLY low goddamn bar set before this combiner.

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>>6156062
I'm genuinly torn between J4zz and Downbeat, I like both designs but I really shouldn't buy both.

At least I know I don't want Coolsville, really not liking that design.

>>6157160

I think Downbeat looks better as a whole. Better proportions, faces, etc. The only thing I don't like about him is the black headlights. I don't know if thats supposed to be accurate to anything (I don't remember his G1 design too well), I just think the idea of BLACK fucking headlights for a car is a dumb idea.

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>>6157164
>(I don't remember his G1 design too well)

Honestly, G1 Jazz is very plain. It feels like he SHOULD have kibble on him somewhere, but no, nothing.

>>6157176

Damn, other than the oddly black headlights, Downbeat looks like a good match.

Also I'd probably keep the car door wings up, I think I'll end up ordering one of these for myself at some point. But I got a lot of stuff on my plate in terms of "Stuff I want" VS "Stuff I have the money to get".

Those TFC Seacons are mighty tempting, but I'm waiting for the last member to be released. Plus, you know, $600+ price tag for a 3P combiner is a fucking wallet destroyer for a poorfag like me. That shit is months of scrimping and saving.

>>6157160
Get Downbeat if G1-accuracy is why you decide on which iteration of a transformer to buy.

Get J4zz if you just want a cool toy of Jazz.

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>>6157180
>>6157176
The G1 toy had door wings.

>>6157176
Rear of the car is the back of the legs, front is the chest, seems to be the perfect amount of kibble to me.

I like that his cartoon model lacks door wings. Helped make him look different from Prowl and Smokescreen, and is especially unique nowadays with movie Bumblebee.

>>6157195
>Helped make him look different from Prowl and Smokescreen

Aside from the fact they rarely appeared compared to Jazz?

Also, how could you confuse Jazz with Smokescreen? Bluestreak yeah I'd get, but Smokescreen?

>>6157194

I did remember the toy's design. I always liked the door wings on the various 'bots back then. Never owned any of them myself though.

>>6156214
Tl;dr, one guy got overhyped for a tarn toy, was let down when the toy was on the level of the character, somewhat less than overlord in the level of importance

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Thinking about pulling the trigger senpai.

Any news on Generation Toy's IDW OP? I really prefer his beef to the Gcreation guy and I'm hoping his transformation isn't so convoluted.

>>6157413
Nothing yet but I hope he doesn't suck. Gcreations looks awesome but is a fragile mess.

>>6157357

Honestly, that looks like a worse MP-10 with added leg flaps.

>>6157679
It's a fuck ton more posable tho

>>6157196
Silhouettes, anon

The datsuns are bumper boobs with door wings. Jazz only has bumper boobs.

>>6157417
>Gcreations looks awesome but is a fragile mess.
Where did you hear that?

>>6157854
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGIu5YLFLA0

If that looks sturdy to you then to each their own. 2:30 onward looks like the most fiddly mess I've ever seen.

>>6157679

I prefer the boxy chunk aesthetic desu. Assuming he's built well he'll be better than mp 10 in every way.

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>>6157906
Oh, I see. That figure is meant for adults. This one is probably more your speed.

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Wish the Master Made Scorponok wasn't so expensive.

>>6158205
>own Pandinus
>love it, adore it, fuck yeah
>see MM Scorpion, will pass because silly size head
>see this, world turned upside down

>>6158176
As I said dude, to each their own. If complexity was the name of the game for "adult" toys then Iron Factory wouldn't be as successful and popular as they are-- but Gcreation and Iron Factory are catering to different tastes, and clearly there's room for both.

I don't mind if you like your figures with 4,000 folding panels and hinges, it's just not my thing.

>>6157196
>Aside from the fact they rarely appeared compared to Jazz?
I mean Bluestreak instead of Smokescreen, but even so, Prowl and Bluestreak were there as often as Jazz was from the very beginning? First toyline and first episode and just about all of first season. The lack of door kibble helped make Jazz look distinct from them than if they went toy accurate.

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>Gcreation Ultra Maxmus is a rubix cube with fragile bits

>Pic related is the only hope

>>6158574

>that chest

Needs work.

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>>6158632

My one complaint desu senpai. He's too thicc in the chest for the rest of his body.

>>6158642

He skipped every day but chest day.