Transformers General: HASBRO WINS NOW AND THEN

I'm kinda feeling the Takara actually.

>>5602902
To each their own. I love CW Shocky, but I understand that some will prefer the lavender.

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Link here for each legends images especially for the newer guys.

Perhaps bookmark it, waiting on dat wheelie

Posting galvatron because reasons

I like both versions of Shockwave. The lavender doesn't bother me at all. I don't really think either one is better in this case, though it is nice the Takara comes with an extra figure.

>>5602908
>John warden: "y'know this headmaster line? I've got a brilliant idea for it!"

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>>5602908
http://takaratomymall.jp/shop/c/cTFlegend/

Helps if I posted the damn thing wouldn't it?

Also question, the TR version doesn't bother me so much (apart from the head but eh), as much a takara fag I am the hasbro versions work for me.

Was there any pics of him at botcon, I can only find cg images and pics that make it look like he's been flat coated, I need to see the bare plastic and decide if I can live with it

>>5602896
they're both good, but i dont understand why Takara couldnt use light lavender plastic for the hands and chest? instead of that translucent pink? it'd be more cartoon accurate, which is what they're going for

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Any news of old mp re-releases or hasbro ones?

I'm tempted to pop the trigger on the new mp red alert anime color edition but its kinda...bland, that's too accurate, still debating on that since I have g2 sideswipe.

But I'm also after a hasbro version of my skywarp, my hasbro seekers are currently complete and really need to be completed, I chose them because they were cheaper, had flight stands, and ronold mc donald seeker was just too kek worthy/fuckloads cheaper for a comletionist like me

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>>5602908
Here's Laserwave w/ Cancer.

>>5602918
Whats with the little guy? Who's that for?

>>5602918
I know it's immature but I still think that name is fucking funny.

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>>5602918
>>5602922

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>>5602918
Blurr.

>>5602921
It's the head of the G1 Headmaster Squeezeplay, or Cancer in Japan. Titans Return is releasing him as a single with the name Crashbash, while Takara is releasing the single Headmasters with the Legends class figures.

>>5602921
It's Squeezeplay's Headmaster. Takara's Legends class figures are coming with the solo headmasters.

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>>5602925
And finally, Scourge.

I got to say Scourge looks amazing.

I didn't want him before now I do.

So now I'm going to add Scourge along with Blurr, Hardhead and Skullcruncher when I order a Computron.

Fuck you Takara for making me more poor.

>>5602925
Fuck, seeing it one more time got me to preorder. That color breakup is just too nice, man.

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>>5602928
Other than cost, how can you defend this?

Yeah, its g1 toy homage colors, well note quite, thighs were white.

Hasbro fucked up badly here on Blurge

>>5602896
>>5602918
>putting paint on pegs

Takara drops the ball

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>>5602914
Here he is at Botcon, anon. As final as can be unless there's a big fan uproar (like with CW Onslaught last year).

Did I hear right or are they planning on releasing individual packaged headmasters as separate toys?

Like in case you lost a headmaster you could by a package full of them?

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>>5602936
I'd be happier to accept it if least the thighs were right.

...But I suppose I could give Scourge his army of sweeps this was, army building much?

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>>5602941

>>5602939
Which pegs, anon?

Yeah, Takara's hitting it out of the park lately.

At this point I would not be surprised if their Liokaiser ends up being entirely new molds.

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>>5602945

>>5602936
Damn his body is nearly a solid block of blue

>>5602941
>>5602945
>>5602948
Doesn't look half bad, granted out of all of the hasbro ones skullcruncher's head sucks, but they have enough color variation to least be recognizable.

Might go takara for the proper head masters, though fort max I might end up skipping either way

>>5602946
I think liokaizer would be fine if he's done this way.

>new top half shell to resemble giant f-14
>limbs of bot mode modified to allow bi-pedal standing
>head head of course

Otherwise they can just exploit the "leo" part and redo him as a fucking lion

>>5602896
>painting on the transclucent plastic
what the fuck is the point???
just use normal plastic so i wouldn't have too worry about the brittleness

>>5602952
Takara likes to skip on money too sometimes

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>>5602943
They're releasing singles of what they're now calling Titan Masters. For 5 USD, you get one of these little guys as well as a little vehicle that can transform. The vehicles also have 5mm pegs so bigger guys can use them as weapons.

It is in this assortment that we are getting Headmaster characters who may not have otherwise fit into the current plan for Titans Return.

>>5602924
holy shit did you make that image before Takara announced SHockwave with cancer? because thats a huge coincidence

>>5602955
Excellent.

>>5602896
>>Platinum to release five pack of CW Ultra Magnus, T30 Arcee and Springer, Generations Blurr and Kup plus '86 Movie poster

Transformers Collector's Starter Kit?

>>5602956
It was made when the "LG24 Laserwave and Cancer" listing first popped up as a name.

>>5602956
Pretty sure he got inspired by it, he even has "cancer" aka crashbash inserted.

I just want that bed

>>5602955
$5? That's not bad actually. Especially considering the puck and dart minicons for RID are that much and they don't do anything Unless you want to buy $20 simplified versions of characters that have better toys.

>>5602954
When they made Nightbird, Slipstream and BW Blackarachnia, they made ALL of the new parts out of translucent plastic and just painted over it

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>>5602958
Pretty much! Some of these decos even look better than their original Hasbro releases.

>Five courageous AUTOBOT HEROES lead the charge in a battle that goes beyond good, beyond evil, and beyond your wildest imagination.

>>5602964
My guess is that clear plastic is cheaper, w-why else would they used clear plastic for new parts?

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Chances of a Getaway in the near future?

>>5602966
>that tagline

Jesus, I already have most of those guys except Blur and Springer. Now I want it.

Is Arcee in Takara colors? I have the Hasbro version... oh god i'm trying to convince myself. I should just buy Springer and the new Blur. I already have the Drift mold.

>>5602974
If you're only missing Blurr and Springer, skip that set. It's a Platinum box, which means it's gonna be overpriced compared to buying the individual toys at retail.

>>5602974
If you look hard enough you can get that arcee takara version, in australia they imported a shitload of legends acree's in tru's.

Not cheap...but an option, if you live down under

>>5602976
Yeah, I just got excited. I can't believe i've put off Springer for so long though. He looks so good and he's one of my fave characters. The original toy was lame but I loved him in the cartoon and movie.

Blurr is meh. I have Drift and he looks good but it takes a special remold/repaint to make me buy a figure twice. Animated Blurr has done it for me so far but the new one looks aces.

>>5602980
I saw her and Takara Blackarachnia, Slipstream and Nightbird super cheap at an import store in Singapore a few months ago and passed them up. I regret it but I literally have all of those molds anyway.

Slipstream I regret the most though.

>next legends reveal is blaster

Gonna be hard to top hasbro's, I was hyped for that one, will he stand along side my leader megatron from hasbro?

>>5602974
Arcee is similar to Takara's, but not as geewun, also has a lot of metallic paint. She lacks the guns. She's also mistranformed on the box there, the rear of the vehicle isn't tabbed into her hips.

>>5602986
The main thing they do to set Blurr apart from Drift aside from the head is that they gave him pretty much all guns instead of all swords. The big katana is now a sniper rifle.

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>>5602987
You know, I usually agree with most of the sentiment here about Takara being better than Hasbro in making their Transformers. But seeing their Shockwave, I realize now that it's not really a competition between the two companies.

Takara has a very specific, very demanding audience that they cater to, while Hasbro's demographics tend to be wider. While TakTom does its best to emulate the cartoon look that their market loves, Hasbro likes to go their own way at times. And that's okay.

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>>5602999
>someone else who doesn't mercilessly shit on people's opinions for liking a different design choice

>>5602936
Yeah, sadly cost is the only thing that sells Hasbro over Takara for me, since I'm not particularly invested in the character.

Still think light lavender thighs/hands/etc would make a world of difference.

>>5602999
>while Hasbro's demographics tend to be wider
As well as cheaper, younger, and more accepting.

Cases like CW wheeljack and TR scourge reflect this, their design despite hollowness is top notch, but the lack of paint with only *just* enough for a g1 toy homage and in TR Scourge's case its not even complete.

But for a western toy market they need to appeal to kids, and because of the price difference (which could be lack of retoolings and paint) they tend to be accepted better especially as a kids gift, for a wiser collector they'd scoff at some of what hasbro is pumping out as of late.

I admit I'm a takara fag, but some of hasbro's offerings work, they just need to break up the color a bit more and more often (the "cannon" g1 headmasters, they look great personally) and I'd happily stick to what local stores sell, frankly I'm seeing too many good molds gathering dust at local shops where's ones that import better stuff don't last 5 minutes

>>5603013
I don't even get this, they're already using white parts, would it of killed them just to break up the blue on the robot form more than a few tiny splotches?

I might grab him but as his sweep army, unless...the platinum pack ends up being cheap, with legends scourge as the leader I can give my shitty deluxe galvatron his army, in scale

>>5602925
That tiny boat.

>>5602970

yup gonna happen, because it's a Transmission rumour.

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>>5602970
He is already on the package art.

>>5602999
>>5603015
Well said.

Both Hasbro and Takara can have their hits and misses.

As I said before, I prefer the CW Bruticus set over the UW one, namely because I didn't care much for the brown chest plate on him, or the hand/feet guns for Swindle and Brawl being the same color as the them to emulate the show (though they can easily be replaced by PE hands and feet).

Though the newer Blast Off (or Take Off from Takara?) does look nice, and I'm hoping they release him separately, like what they're doing with Groove.

>>5603026
Transmission rumor?

>>5602999
What is Bruticus trying to do?

>>5603031
>Transmission rumor?
The Transmissions podcast apparently has a guy on the inside; they've been releasing rumors of upcoming Hasbro products that have been right every single time, even though at the time we thought they were just trying to spread wish-fulfilling bullshit.

I believe the current list of rumors include
>Legends Kickback
>Deluxe Getaway
>Deluxe Hot Rod
>Deluxe Nautica
>Voyager triple-changing Optimus
>Voyager triple-changing Megatron (possibly from the teased Overlord)
If anyone has the rest, please post.

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>>5602955
Anyone else looking to pick some of these up?

The wave one guys looked neat, but I love that in wave two, they've given everyone vehicles that correspond to their character.

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>>5603047
Treadshot (Flywheels) reuses Terribulls vehicle in an appropriate fashion.

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>>5603049
Clobber (Grimlock) reuses Crashbash's vehicle -- I like the idea but the yellow doesn't seem Dinobot enough.

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>>5603051
And Brawn (Brawn) gets his own vehicle, turning from his jeep alt mode to a.. motorcycle?

>>5603038
Looks like he's cowering behind Superion there to me.

>>5603044
Thanx.
I'd like to see a Nautica toy, alongside an Autobot Megatron from MTMTE.

>>5603053
Gunsled, seriously that's all I see with these vehicle modes is sleds.... Can't wait to get them all and take pictures in the snow.

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>>5602896
>HASBRO WINS NOW AND THEN

pic unrelated, right?

>>5603064
Looking at the thread, it looks like it really depends. Opinions on Shockwave are not as clear-cut as they are for Blurr or Scourge.

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>>5603051
An easy fix.

>>5603076
Much better. I may just do that myself when he comes out.

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>>5602945

>>5603068
>Takara produces the better paintjob
>"TAKARA WINS, SUCK IT HASBLOW"

>Hasbro produces the better paintjob
>"It really comes down to preference."

>>5603083
Ah, I see. That is worrisome, considering that the underlying plastic is supposed to be completely concealed, and chipping in those pegs will ruin the rest of the paint.

>>5603086
Does that mean that the loud Takara fans have quieted down this once, or just that Hasbro doesn't have the same type of undyingly loyal support?

>>5603086
What do you expect, complete Takarafags are the worst. Buy Takara if you want, don't be an ass about it if someone prefers Hasbro.

>>5602936
Well considering how much more paint Takara's has, compared to Hasbro, you can buy 2-3 Hasbro Scourges as Sweeps, and Takara's will look more like Scourge next to them.

>>5603093
Both.

>>5603047
Yeah, I'm getting all the titanmasters without bodies, most of the deluxes, some voyagers and a couple of leaders, this is going to be an expensive year.

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Got some new buddies today /toy/. Been waiting a while for'em.

Too bad something else I bought is missing fucking parts.

>>5603086
Overall takara's ones usually have more paint appsand slatherings of paint in general.

Take UW defensor, looked bland, though that chest panel got a shit tone of paint, the ladder bits next to the head are silver rather than silver black, topped with a brighter blue.

The CW actually has less, but...I find the silver and red checks to really work.

I wouldn't mind been proven wrong though, present one hasbro figure that ACTUALLY has more overall paint overall.

Anyone else get the feeling that Titan Returns will be more fun than Combiner Wars? It felt like Combiner Wars was kinda underwhwlming, I'm more looking forward to this line.

>>5602921
Cancer is a Japanese exclusive character who had a pet robot in the Masterforce cartoon that turns into a guy. I guess pairing him with Shockwave is a callback to that.

>>5603114
I was about to say
>more unique body types

But after seeing blurr to brainstorm I'm worried.

>>5603115
The character is exclusive, but the toy and its mold went abroad as squeezeplay.

...also wasn't cancer just some headmaster jr who sided with the con's, I coulda sworn I remember some fung fu lovin brute of a kid

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>>5603112
>present one hasbro figure that ACTUALLY has more overall paint overall.
He has enough paint on his head for 10 figures. I don't think his head has enough paint, actually.

>>5603086
>>Hasbro produces the better paintjob
>>"It really comes down to preference."
What paint is there besides the "face", ears, and eye?

I do prefer Hasbro's base colors, but Takara did better by painting over the front of the cannon silver and non-clear fist.

Concept wise, at least, bad ideas on the base mold that can't quite be saved by more paint.

>>5603118
Um, I own the takara one and seen the hasbro blitzwing, apart from the sword I'm...fairly certain takara's has more paint in regards to blitzwing.

Can't argue with the head comment which is why I don't switch the heads, that was stupid

>>5603086
All this shows is that when Takara wins, they REALLY fucking win, while the best Hasbro can do is "well it sorta comes close I guess"

>>5603117
I think Brainstorm from Blurr is decent, and Chromedome is fantastic, though I can't tell if he just shares the transformation like Dead End, or if he actually is a retool.

My point is, at least the retools here, maybe save some like Sentinel to Astrotrain, at least feel heavily different compared to CW retools.

>>5603121
I was just making a joke in regards to how much paint he has on his head, I wasn't actually suggesting him.

>>5602966
Its hard to be a Transformer collector while also being a penny pincher...

>>5603114
Titans Returns already looks better than CW due to a better incorporated gimmick.

and I LIKED combiner Wars

You know what TR reminds me of with all the little guys and accessories and bases?

Mighty Max.

>>5602966
Where can I preorder?

>>5603127
Heh, fair enough, sorry for not picking up on it immediately

>>5603141
>mighty max

FUCK YEAH

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>>5603117
The design team stated at Toy Fair that they were making sure that retools were better distributed so that the right characters had the right molds -- after all, it looks like retooling has become a necessity to stave off the lowered budget.

I think we're seeing the result of that already -- all seven of the original Headmasters have different molds from each other, and the one retool we've seen in the Deluxe assortment still works.

>>5603123
>missing the point this hard

Imagine if scoronok won that fan poll, he'd be taking on fort max in the current line...or would he be the next?

>>5603030
That's not getaway

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>>5603153
I'm sure he'd be in the next. as another anon said during the poll,
>the results will only decide the order they release them in.

>>5603150
Besides, it appears that retools are being saved for bigger classes, and it's workinh there too. They range from a repaint but passable with a new head, to heavy things like Prime from Magnus.

I still thing Alpha Trion is a pretool, but I can't tell for who. Thundertron keeps being mentioned, but he's such a nobody of a character I doubt they'll go back to him. Especially since he didn't even make it into the cartoon. My money is on Lio Convoy.

>>5603162

I could see Scorponok winning if that happened.

Most People can wait for Omega.

>>5603053
When in doubt always assume Cybertronian spaceship
>>5603044
And Legends Gnaw

>>5602966
My goal is to recreate the battle of Autobot city one day. This helps immensely.

>>5603173
vector prime. the head master is the minicon safeguard, the chest has the same round core going on, and the front of the ship mode matches the front of vps spaceship. The lion is just for Alpha trion though.

>>5603151
No point was missed, hasbrofag.

>>5602918
Awwww

Does that mean we won't get an actual cancer release? Like with his body?

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>>5603123
>All this shows is that when Takara wins, they REALLY fucking win, while the best Hasbro can do is "well it sorta comes close I guess"


There's a few I'd give t Hasbro easily, granted it's sparse(though I don't really buy both to compare.) Energon Galvatron was definitely a win over the Superlink one. I think a lot of Classics/Universe toys look better over the Henkei versions, because the chrome looked tacky. barring the obvious exception of Dinobot, of course.

Probably the most notable example recently was Hasbro MP-11 Starscream, because it holds together better than Takara's. Hell, when fucking Powered Convoy/Randy says the Hasbro was the better one, that's saying something, because he's always pro-Takara. Problem is it sold out so fast, good luck finding one at a decent price.

Takara Generations Arcee might be more cartoon accurate, but Hasbro's inclusion of black at the joints creates a much better looking figure.

>>5603201
Is that the black box one? My local TRU still has a few of those in stock, next to the Bluestreaks.

>>5603199
It's funny you say that, because
>>5603093
makes an interesting point.

No one's really an undyingly loyal Hasbro fan. Even people who buy nothing but Hasbro. It's really more "people who just buy the domestic versions and either can't, or do't want to, buy the imports for more money" If anything it's Takara fans who mainly make a big deal out of company wars. Naturally people f the former category tend to be annoyed by that.

>>5603209
Where are you? Wanna middleman me one, then? Mine remains empty.

>>5603208
I agree with this.

But every single CW toy Takara has done better and every single TR toy so far Takara has done better.

The last time Hasbro products was consistently better than Takara product was during the United line where added that ugly shiny paint to everything.

>>5602948
That gun looks fucking awful. It's like a cookie cutter. I could make cookies with that thing

>>5603173
I usually avoid retools, but Apex Prime might be the first retooled figure I go out an buy just because I really liked CW Magnus, and he looks different enough that it wouldn't bug me.

>>5603228
Please do and post results.

Honestly don't give a fuck that Takara's Shockwave is different. It's a great mold and both are so cheap that it just gives me a reason to own them both unlike a combiner.

>>5603238
Can anyone give me an MP Prwol? You can have my boipussy

>>5602904
It's more muh animus accurate I guess

>Titans Return somewhen this year
>Trypticon next year

I'm finally going to get that all-out Citybot war display I've been promising myself

>>5603173
John warden "B-B-B-Beast wars!? NO! make him into Razorclaw! people were asking for predacons!"

>>5602928
Well if you wanted some Sweeps for him, you could get several HASBRO ones. The mostly blue colour makes him look quite different.

>>5603271

I know I want Razorclaw and the rest of the Predacon's so I could have an updated Predaking, far more than I want anything from BW.

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Speaking of ol one eye. Found him out shopping today. Really impressed at how damn nice he is.

His robot mode hits all the points of articulation I want in a toy and the head is able to emote the right amount a single light can do.

Also, I saw three, out of the three, two had a more orange eye color while the one I got was more yellow.

>>5603280
So you'd go for a non-combining-triple-changing-headmaster razorclaw?

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Mother fucker. So I go to transform him, and two right shoulders.

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Should I hope they have a replacement tomorrow or just accept he will never be a gun.

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Hell, even his hip deal is backwards to where it won't even transform the legs.

>>5603282

No, I'd go for a combining Razorclaw over anything from BW. Shit, if getting a CW Predaking meant no BW toys for the next 30 years, I'd sign it without hesitation.

UKfag here late to the game. Is there any place I can find all the Stunticons, still?

>>5603286
>>5603288
>>5603290

That sucks man. Odd because I'd never heard of Shockwave having QC issues before. Maybe you just got unlucky and bought one that was meant to be tossed back at the factory.

>>5603290
>Hell, even his hip deal is backwards to where it won't even transform the legs.
Woah, how is that even possible? The pieces are nigh-identical.

>>5603309
My mistake, they were just stuck really bad. Still, can't be a gun due to the shoulders.

>>5603291
Who cares about what you want?

>>5603326
>Who cares about what you want?

That same logic applies to people wanting BW stuff. None of us are in charge (un?)fortunately though.

>>5603332
>It doesn't matter. None of this matters.
-Carl Sagan

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Beast Wars was cool but had its time. Unlike G1, I don't feel like remakes of BW toys could get much better than the originals - with a couple of exceptions like Rhinox.

>>5603049
>>5603051
>>5603053
Is paint really that expensive these days?

>>5603362
If that's the case then what's wrong with some reissues?

What lines would benefit from getting the Classics treatment, anyways? RID2001? Armada?

>>5603367
I would love me some Unicron Trilogy do-overs. Both Combiner Wars and Titans Return could have had an Energon Omega Supreme

>>5603226
>every single TR toy
>Hardhead doesn't have a mushy face
>Shockwave's pegs are painted over and would make transforming him a hassle
>Easily purchased new heads if you lose the default ones instead of having to buy more legends figures

>>5603374

Maybe they'll repaint the upcoming TR one as Energon?

>>5603367
Armada, ARMADA!

>>5603367
I'd say Armada. Still kinda has G1 aesthetics, but with tons of fully original characters.

>>5603378
I thought Trypticon had won the fan poll?

>>5603381
>>5603367
Not to mention a lot of the RID2001 figures still have decent articulation flr modern TF standards. Armada had bricks from the start in a time period where we'd already gotten super articulated BW and G2 figures.

>>5603362
I thought this, too, but stuff like Generations Waspinator and MP Primal tell me otherwise.
I think the problem is more than BW updates can be more like a lateral movie than a straight improvement, because of how quality tends to ebb and flow in modern figures. Take Transmetals, for example; basically no modern toys have that many paints apps, especially not domestic ones. and then there's engineering issues. Waspinator is really cool, but has terribly limited knees. Rattrap is easily better than the original, but suffers some QC issues.

That said, ultimately a lot of us want more BW stuff simply to be recognized and have more of a franchise that brought us in to the series in the first place. Especially since we've seen countless re-dos of certain G1 characters since it ended. It'd be nice to have a few BW characters that are at least on Jazz or Prowl level, and get toys every few years in different style and incarnations.

>>5603384
He did, but we just voted for the release order, the other 2 are coming after Trypt.

>>5603385
Honestly I think in a lot of ways the line peaked with RiD, as far as mainline figures go. The only figures to come close to that level of paint and detail were the 2007 Premium rereleases. They're still better figures overall than modern toys.

>>5603362
Every Dinobot toy so far is shit and the Classics toy is way overpriced. Fuck you give me a good Dinobot.

>>5603385
A new Side Burn that's not a fiddly mess would be nice, though.

>>5602908
Another fucking Galvatron that looks like shit. I hope everyone involved in these piece of trash renditions gets their asshole sewn shut for life.

>>5603408
Well at that rate it's almost as if Galvatron's design is inherently shit.

>>5603367

Armada by far.

Maybe Beast Machines also. I just need a good Jetstorm.

>>5603408
I went to BotCon last week and almost every person I heard talk like this was a mouth breathing drooling tard and I can't help but wonder if they post stuff like this here on /toy/

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>>5602908
>that helmet
>that face

>>5603417
I'm a functioning member of society, but it just blows that I have to go 3rd party for a decent G1 cartoon/movie version of him.
Him and Starscream, it's like part of their jobs is to fuck up the final product in some manner.

>>5603426
m8 if you're worried about the head wait for the final product. there's been so many times where promo images that are shit but the toy turned out fine. pretty sure it wont be amazing but wait and see before you flip your shit.

>>5603417
Honestly, its probably worse here.Botcon attendees are probably the upper echelon of the fandom. I know how that sounds, but think about it, they must have decent jobs to be able to fly and take days off work to actually spend money.That's not something you just do with NEETbux or being a poor college kid. Those where people who probably have to resort to interacting with other human beings on a regular basis. Now think of people here, who may not have to.

>>5603428
There is no salvation from that head

>>5603408
Same boat
They have actual artwork at hand for the characters that they can look at and use
Yet this is what we get
Garbage that looks like it was designed by a semi-retarded blind person

>>5603429
>I know how that sounds, but think about it, they must have decent jobs to be able to fly and take days off work to actually spend money.

I know what you mean. I've met a few who were super socially awkward but actually had degrees in something but I think there's a good amount who've just got tism bucks and have parents who are well off. There was this one kid in a green ranger hoodie who waited from 8AM to 6PM Thursday so he could be first in line for the 7PM line and nobody else showed up until like 5:00pm for his line. Pretty sure he was special.

>>5602908
I like Hasbro's Galvatron more, actually.

So CW Fruiticus will likely sell for $100? Because I don't have any Combaticons and they would help beef up my Decepticon roster.

G2 Menasor is only $100, but I also already have all of them, so only really the black and blue Dragstrip, the teal Breakdown, and the lemony yellow Wildrider would be interesting. The bright red Dead End is useless and the purple MM is trying to prove his loyalty a bit too much.

>>5603443
Yeah, the ever since G2 Superion and Menasor, it seems like CW combiner sets usually sell for 100 bucks, with Devastator being an obvious exception.

>>5603443
>>5603448

It depends on how shelf-warmy they are. G2 Superion you can get right on Amazon right now for about $80.

G2 colorschemes just aren't popular it seems, if Superion has already tanked $20 off MSRP.

>>5603153
Didn't they say they were going to make all 3 titans in that fan poll?

>>5603454
Is Defensor getting a boxset, G2 or otherwise? I know Fruiticus is getting one, and Hasbro's Computron is a mustget for me.

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>>5603458
>Hasbro's Computron

>>5603458

No idea, it hasn't been announced yet. So far only the guys who had actual G2 sets (and Menasor, who had one planned but never released) are getting CW G2's. Maybe if they sold well, but uh, given G2 Superion seemingly tanking in price already, I don't think they're selling well.

>>5603465

Probably wants Scrounge.

>>5603468
Defensor had a G2 set planned as well. He was going to be billed as G2 Menasor's rival. I figure they're just waiting until they've released Deluxe Groove before they make a move on that.

>>5602908

Hasbro wins? UGH... I feel dirty saying that. I need a shower.

Who /college/ here? How often do you guys get to buy new TFs? I'm going to college soonish.

>>5603485
Got a plan to deal with your debt?

>>5603469
And Atferburner (muh orange), I also preffer hasbro Strafe, love his chunky altmode, looks like the ships from old shoot'em up games.

>>5603494
I like Hasbro Strafe's head a ton.

>>5603478
Why? there'd be no generations in the first place if not for Hasbro. you'd just be waiting for takara MP galvatron(which will be better, but will take years).

>>5603489
every American has debt.
i wonder how many Americans die in debt.
it's today's reality.

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>>5603485
My plan is simple: Don't.

It's going to suck to have to pay the late tax for popular stuff, but trust me when I say you'll need every cent you can muster. Focus on getting a good network and a decent career. Focus on your foundation and managing your expenses.

If you play your cards right, you'll be able to balance your work needs and your hobbies. These toys will not disappear. They'll be harder to get, but ebay will always sell them, yard sales will sell them, fan sites will sell them, etc. You will always have another chance to get your toys. You won't have another college try.

The last thing you want is to be an indebted idiot like Sean Long.

>>5603485
Don't bother with college. You'll be paying off your debt for so long that you'll be retired before it's all gone and it'll all have been pointless and you'll have made the same amount of money working retail unless you plan to be a doctor. College is the greatest joke in American history.

>>5603518
That's part of the American Dream. You buy a bunch of shit on borrowed money and eventually die. No one cares as long as you can make a minimum payment.
Live the life you always wanted.
Today.

>>5603047
Daamn, that's actually nice

Thing is, I'd buy a Takara TM Apeface with more accurate paint, but the head isn't gonna be included with the vehicle probably...

Maybe I'll just paint the Hasbro one, I like Apeface

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>>5603362
>>5603387

Guys, I just had an idea

You know how in Combiner Wars and Titan Wars, Hasbro gives the old characters new powers? (Example: Wheeljack is now a combiner limb and Blurr is a Headmaster)

What if Hastak makes a new Beast Wars line that revives the BW characters, while giving beast bodies to G1 characters?

pic related is one of my faves, G1 Bumblebee as a Beast Wars Flipchanger

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So.. sice takara didn't made bodies for the head only titanmasters, what are the chances of them actually making the 2 missing LioKaiser members?

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>>5603532

>>5603532
Sounds too much like the shit FunPub tried to pull, which was taking G1 characters and forcing them to fit into Beast Era stuff.

>>5603533
Jesus that looks terrible and why the fuck would you swap out Dragstrips legs for Mirages aren't they identical?

>>5603533
What the fuck?

>>5603532
Ant Inferno and bird Prowl!
Wait...

>>5603533
Neat

Whatever happened to those Gobots/Machine Robo toys that were being made by some japanese company?

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>>5603515
>>5603518
>mfw after reading these replies
I'm going to suffer, arnt I

>>5603558
still in production. Action Toys takes a long time to make shit, don't hold your breath!

read this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ES_Gokin#Delays.2FIssues_with_Productions

>>5603494
It's not even the same orange. He doesn't even look like the toy Afterburner either.

>>5603560
thanks for the info, i was afraid shit was canned or something

>>5603553
Care to tell what are the worst details? (obvios paint and beast helmets missing) I found Mirage legs on a junker bin and bought a broken Mirage for this, also Jaguar has white tights so this saved me from painting them.

>>5603556
Thanks.

>>5603515
Makes sense. I wonder if I'll bring a couple TFs as desk toys in college or not.

>>5603518
Eh, I don't think I'll go that far.

>>5603533
>yfw Takara makes two brand new Deluxe molds for Jallguar and Leozack that combine

They'll reuse the engineering to make Monstructor/Dinoking, too.

>>5603564
>Care to tell what are the worst details?
I think it probably is just because it's un-painted so everything clashes so far.
How stable is that connection?

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>>5603562
>It's not even the same Red.

Both have the same head, it was updated yesterday.

>>5603571
>cgi renders had repainted Groove head
>figure in display has UW head
They can't even do cgi renders right.

>>>5603571
I didn't say anything about red, or his head, so...what?

>>5603569
Solid, Airraid comboner clips into Dragstrip front firmly, then then Air raid fists grip to posts pegged into Dragstip HFG port, the combiner head partsform tho.

>>5603579
Don't let anyone dissuade you, go for the hasbro one if that's got what you want, same to everyone else wanting to get him.


>>5603581
Be sure to post him once you've finished.

>>5603577
They did the same thing with poor legends rumble

>>5603585
That's right, he had that awful Eject head.

>>5603584
I'm not going for the Hasbro one cause it doesn't particularly look like any version of Afterburner.

I want to get Scourge, get Alpha Trion, repaint the body and use the Trion head. Cause the lion thing is just stupid.

>>5603590
So computrons a miss?

>>5603596
The Hasbro one is for me. Buying it just for Scrounge and probably the hands/feet.

>>5603586
Ravage had Stripes/ head in the render too, and on the showfloor he looked a lot more normal. For the head at least. The rest of that hot mess is pretty inexcusable.

>>5603597
Either your bipolar or your not the guy I'm talking to.

>>5603601
Oh, whoops. I meant it's NOT for me.

Do we know how many waves we're getting this year? It's already April, and we're still on the first wave.

>>5603606
So you're giving the rest to somebody? that's nice.

>>5603611
I can only assume we'll have a dry season of waves being somewhat supplemented by boxset releases. And Deluxe Groove in May.

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>>5603611
Second wave. It's April and we're still at the second wave.

>>5603611
>still on the first wave

We haven't even gotten the first wave yet unless they're starting to show up at retail now.

>>5603123
Damage control.

People only say "Well it's up to preference" when people like you can't admit that it's all about preference in the first place. Stop being so elitist and admit when you cpuld be wrong.

>>5603620
Nah bro. Gonna sell the rest online. Someone's not going to care about Scrounge missing.

>>5603631
I can't admit something that isn't true.

>>5603626
I still haven't seen anybody actually attach Groove/Wreck-Gar to Sky Reign.

anyone got a scan of the botcon comic? the tf general in /co/ is dead

>>5603643
Because Sky Lynx as a combiner is stupid and a 6th Legends member as a pointless chest is stupid.

>>5603626
It's April and my area has gotten like 1 Sky Lynx across all the stores here, and a couple of boxes of the limbs. Never seen Wreck-Gar.

>>5603644
Revive it.

>>5603611
We're actually on wave 2 (of 4 if we go by Botcon), Bruticus was wave 1 but got released way earlier.

We should be getting info on the next wave by now, so it's weird nothings come up yet.

>>5603637
Fair do's.

>>5603644
Last year's comic didn't get scanned until this year. Don't get your hopes up.

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ahaha holy shit why am i only hearing about this fuck up now

>>5603655
I'll scan it as soon as the club puts copies for sale online, same as I do every year.

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>>5603656
You didn't miss much. The headsculpt was kinda lousy.

Ravage/Tigatron's was even worse.

>>5602908

I like the red belt buckle and feet here, but otherwise I think Hasbro's is pretty on the money.

Now, what I want to know is if the helmet's chin strap thing can be cut off. The way that sticks out is totally killing the look of the head.

>>5603659
That has absolutely nothing to do anything.

>>5603664
It's implying how Tigatron's gun looks like a chewed up piece of spearamint gum, retard.

>>5603657
Good guy.

>>5602955
These are actually looking decent for the small size price range. Hell of a lot more playable than those stupid RiD15 minicons.

>>5603666
*Tigatron's head

>>5603664
Yeah it does. The guy was talking about one of the Botcon figures being a fuck-up.

>>5603101

>Buy Takara if you want, don't be an ass about it if someone prefers Hasbro.

Whoa. Hold up. You can't really expect collectors to be sensible about their toy discussions online can you? This is serious shit, okay?

>>5603660
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7Dz-0nSKm0
It's how it's attached, so no.
>>5603666
>>5603670
The fuck up was not including the handfoot gun. Heads have nothing to do with it.

>>5603044
An actual toy for Nautica? F'kyes please!

Also finally a Legends Kickback to go with Shrapnel and Bombshell.

>>5603672
I thought he had just found out about the exclusive Terrorsaur or something, my bad.

>>5603678
Terrorsaur's head was one the better looking ones

>>5603672
Jesus, learn to follow a conversation.

One guy posts about how Terrorsaur was missing his hand/foot. A fuckup. The other guy posted how that wasn't even the worst fuck up, and showed Tigatron's terrible head. Another fuck up. Try to follow.

Also, the attachable helmet DOES have a chin strip apart from the chinstrip molded on the Headmaster. You can clearly see a different color on the chin after the helmet pops on.

>>5603053
Brawn's vehicle is actually pretty neat. There are quad-tread conversions for jeeps and SUVs like that irl.

>>5603288

Contacting Hasbro sometimes helps in these cases - though understand that their replacements will sometimes be of the "same value" variety, meaning you could be sent a toy from the same assortment but not Shockwave.

Otherwise, keep an eye out for one at retail. I've seen like 3-4 myself and my town is usually slow to get stuff, so you might get lucky.

>>5603672
Wait a moment, I thought Galvatrons TM head was white, but here it's purple.

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Hasbro really does love us.

>>5603692
Finally a gift for me to buy kids I hate

>>5603684
>You can clearly see a different color on the chin after the helmet pops on.
Maybe YOU should learn to follow a convo? No one was ever talking about the chinstrap on the actual head. We know the helmet has its own chipstrap of a different colour, that's what the person was asking about removing. That's the part that's attached to the mechanism.
>>5603691
The front is silver, we've been seeing renders from a straight on view.

>>5603692
What Rodimus is that?

>>5603705
Titanium

>>5603692

M-maybe that Rodimus mold will be better in plastic...?

>>5603672

It looks really awful with how far back the Titanmaster head sits back inside the "crown"

Hopefully some enterprising 3rd party makes regular heads for some of these guys. Galvy and Scourge look like great candidates. I don't care if they parts-form.

>>5603710
You could just use a dremel to thin out the inside of the helmet and glue it onto the headmaster.

>>5603656
According to Vangelus, the box set didn't include Ravage's HFG, so it had to be handed out seperately. They also didn't make any effort to tell people, so not everyone got the gun.

Funpub couldn't even go out on a bang. Fuck ups til the end.

>>5603712

True. I don't really need a pointless tiny Megatron anyway.

>>5603044

Deluxe Triggerhappy and Doublecross.

Also the Autobot and Decepticon clones.

Cloudraker and Fastlane, Pounce and Wingspan.

And a Sixshot in an unknown scale.

Oh, and a scout class Bumblebee based on his Devastation character model.

>>5603703
>flip flops from losing one argument to another

Who's the worst TF reviewer?

>>5603721

You.

>>5603721
All of them. Video reviewers by nature are trash.

>>5603721

WHETHER IT'S FILLING MY CUP

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>>5603716

>Cloudraker and Fastlane, Pounce and Wingspan

Wouldn't be surprised if they're all just made from a single mold

>>5603713
Oh god I need confirmation of this, that's hilairious if true

>>5603721
Me. I lavish toys with verbal toungebaths. On more controversial toys, I'll tend to play middle ground and play up the good aspects rather than focus on the negative ones in order to stand out from the general negative opinion. I also have fat hands that take up 80% of the screen so you can't see the toy.

>>5603728

Yeah, probably.

>>5602966
This set is pretty great.
All good molds with good paint apps, some better than their original releases, even.

Only mold I have from this set is Magnus, so I might pick this up if it shows up in my country at a reasonable price.

>>5603093
>or just that Hasbro doesn't have the same type of undyingly loyal support?
Or maybe it's just that Hasbro fans don't act like fucking elitist faggots.
I don't see the point in this bullshit, sometimes the Hasbro release is cooler, sometimes it's the Takara one, and sometimes it really comes down to preference.

Hasbro does drop the ball on some things (fucking Computron, man) but it's not like they're always shit, or that Takara is always superior.

But spergs will be spergs, I guess.

>>5603286

Man that sucks. I freaked out at first when I got my Shockwave because I couldn't transform it, but I figured out that the upper arms were switched during assembly so all I had to do was swap them. Get yourself a replacement, it's a great Shockwave and probably the best official legends figure yet (but I think Wheelie will edge this one out).

>>5603692

I'm guessing the metal bits will be swapped out with plastic. If Hasbro can't afford paint they sure as hell can't afford die cast.

>>5603708
>>5603752

Not how it works; the molds were made for die-cast metal; you can't just replace it with plastic.

Die-cast is literally rubbish-grade metal, s not that costly once a mold is produced.

>>5603752
Lack of diecast will probably be in this toy's favor, actually. Most Titanium toys were ruined because of shitty diecast placement that weighed down parts that shouldn't be using diecast.

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>this is at the end of the presentation
>Hasbro says something along the lines of "we don't want to "lord" it over you

Hasbro confirmed for Overlord.

>>5603766

I hope he's a Leader or a Voyager.

I just got no room for something Metroplex or Fort Max sized.

>>5603626
So is there any way, any way at all, to attach Wreck-Gar to Sky Reign?

>>5603768
It'll probably be a Voyager; every Voyager is a triple changer in this line.

>>5603766
Blitzwing retool.

>>5603773
>Blitzwing being a Duocin instead of a triple changer

no

>>5603774

Will they actually pull him off as a Duocon? I'd like to see them try.

>>5603771
I hope not, I wish it's an Ultra-ish at least, Leader at best.
Voyager won't be imposing enough for this character.

>>5603771
Maybe rather than it being a triple changer, the two vehicles will combine. Maybe it will rain money too.

>>5603774
But that doesn't show Its two separate pieces. Just 2 different vehicles.

>>5603532
>wanting even more G1 autobot cars
>even at the cost of other series
God, I can't wait for anyone old enough to be nostalgic for G1 to drop dead.

>>5603766
I wonder if they'll give him his weird pillowy lips.

>>5603787
The presentation slide showed them colliding as an allusion to them combining before their comment of lording it over us.

>>5603787
Also, it would be easier to engineer two separate vehicles combining into two parts of the same robot, than to make a vehicle that turns into another vehicle, and robot.

>>5603788
yea... getting real sick of carbots

>>5603791
Can't tell that they did a "collision" from just that picture. And I'm not saying it isn't overlord. I'm saying we are seeing 2 vehicles that could either be the same toy or two different toys. Again you cant tell that from the picture.

>>5603788
It's a self-perpetating cycle. Every series since Beast MAchines ended has taken heavy influence from G1, so people who grew up with those are likely to pick up G1 fandom as well. Especially since g1 is sort of revered by the franchise at large.

I mean, the Unicron Trilogy, Prime, the movies, they're all either G1 reboots or heavily G1 based.

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>>5603795

Thats what the 3P's did for'em. Seems to be an easy way to fit him in, so I wouldn't be surprised if HasbrOverlord made him as two seperate things that hooked together to make a full 'bot.

>>5603811
But would be be a duo-con and a headmaster? We're reaching gimmick overload territory here.

>>5603814

Not everything in the line has to be a HM. There was CW stuff that had nothing to do with combiners after all.

But a double vehicle with two headmasters, one with a G1-ey face and one with a more IDW DSL face would be a cool Leader class maybe.

>>5603814
Seeing how we have several triple changing headmasters. A duoformer + headmaster wouldn't be that unusual.

>>5603814
Energon Omega Supreme was a headmaster duobot, could combine with Optimus, could have Optimus's drones/Wing Saber, Mini-Cons, and energon chips/weapons attach to him, his two vehicle modes could combine, his vehicle modes could triplechange into a crane and turret with flip out handles for other figures to use, his headmaster could ride in the train's crane cabin or transform into an optional part of the battleship, and he had lights and sounds.

>>5603773
No the Voyager IDW Megatron is suppose to be a Blitzwing retool according to one of the guys that gave us the first description of Hasbro's Afterburner (with the bent windshield).

>>5603800
UT was full of new characters and characters that were G1 based in name only. I'd love to see some of those guys revisited, some were pretty cool and they would fit great with a chug collection, while still being a breath of fresh air, while still being nostalgic to younger collections.

From the top of my memory, the only UT characters that consistently ressembled their G1 counterparts were Optimus and Starscream.

>>5603814
The second coming of Transformers Armada with Headmaster Hot Shot and Target Master JAaM Copter when?

>>5603799
You can tell they did a collision by being there.


Also, the alt modes are pretty overlord inspired.

>>5603852
stop feeding the troll

>>5603822
Well it'll need to be in a currently unused class as leaders are headmasters (even Powermaster prime!).

>>5603852
>by being there
Yeah the picture clearly shows that.

Again. I never said it wasn't overlord or not 2 separate parts. Im saying you can't tell for sure of anything from that picture other than its a tank and a jet.

>>5603083
Why would they paint it when they could just mold it in the same plastic as the rest of the arm?

>>5603856
I never said the picture showed a collision, moron. I posted the picture for visual reference, made mention of how the slide collided the two vehicles, and how Hasbro gave us a verbal Overlord tease. Did you eat paint chips from G1 toys, son?

>>5603857
because then the chest window and arm gun would be cast in that solid plastic as well

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Anyone else have stress marks on the knee panels of Animated Prowl?

How does Takara Computron beat Hasbro?

Hasbro has Victorion's hands/feet
Hasbro Afterburner looks better as a figure if less accurate to the original
Hasbro has Scrounge
Here in the US Hasbro's will cost about half as much total compared to Takara.

>>5603862
Okay. But you used the collision effect as an example like everyone knew this. I'm saying the picture does not show that. But you want to get upset and stuff. Its okay.

>>5603874
Lightspeed and Nosecone are terrible. But there are enough differences between the two sets that either opinion is justifiable.

>>5603875
I never made any kind of claim. I mentioned this as an experience from my own perspective since no one else had mentioned any of this info and thought it was Blitzwing and/or the Megatron retool we'd heard about.

>>5603872
Considering Prowl doesn't have any knee panels, I'm going to guess no.

>>5603884
Nah man, like the kneecaps. The ones that hook into altmode.

>>5603874
>half as much

It's going to be $99.99 MSRP, and the Takara is going to cost around $135.

>>5603887
Including shipping?

And yeah, if my work works out in the future, I might get both. Hasbro first though.

>>5603893
>trying to add on shipping as part of the cost of the figure

lol this guy

Hasbro Computron will probably be near impossible to find due to scalpers anyway so you might as well count shipping on that one too.

>>5603893

Shipping depends on who you're buying from. Hell, I got UW Superion for $120 shipped. Computron isn't exactly a popular guy, either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi4ukzwGWB8
I'm trying to find Optibotimus's video review where he wastes several minutes playing with his cat. I could have sworn there was one, but he may have taken it down.

>>5603866
Why does an anime-based color scheme need translucent plastic when it never appeared in the show?

>>5603874
>How does Takara Computron beat Hasbro?

Lightspeed doesn't look like a piece of shit car with too much white, Streetwise's head, and a lightbar

Nosecone isn't Brawl in different colors

Scattershot has an accurate chest instead of reusing Superion's chest

The combined mode ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE FUCKING COMPUTRON instead of Superion dressed in red colors.

Strafe's alt mode looks sleek instead of a box of robot under a plane, and his robot mode is more accurate.

Hasbro Afterburner, while orange, still has fucked colors because of the random beige and all the black which isn't accurate to anything

To top it all off ALL of them have new weapons instead of reused shit.

Some hands and feet that you can easily replace with the still superior PE options and a random obscure character doesn't beat any of this.

>>5603909
Takara Computron looks like some kid went crazy with paint.

There's painting details on figures and then there's casting shit in one color only to paint it entirely another color.

>>5603924
yeah maybe it has to do with the fact that they're hand painted prototypes

>>5603559
I went to college and I'm working in my degree field for $11.75 an hour full time.... my friend makes more doing delivery full time. Don't waste your life in college.

>>5603930
Takara doesn't usually do the hand painted samples for stock photography thing that Hasbro usually does.

>>5603909
You also need to pay an additional 40 bucks for the 3rd party add-ons, bringing it up to nearly 180 bucks for one set.
Stop acting like this is a viable option for everyone

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>When someone hamhands their figure and acts surprised when something pops off.

>>5603963
>need
o rly?

>>5603963
>buy Takara Computron
>so does everyone else because Hasbro's is factually inferior and if you're going to spend $100+ on a set might as well, the extra $30 for the extra quality is nothing
>Hasbro Computron eventually bins for $50 because no one bought it
>scoop it up for Scrounge and the hands/feet while also getting some extra figures to use for customs or as faceless mooks in battle scenes/fparts for Galvatronus/something

>>5603968
Yeah, you kinda need to pay for 3rd party add-ons within a scenario where you replace something with 3rd party add-ons. They don't just spontaneously materialize in your hands.

>>5603963
And you need to pay an extra 40 bucks to get the Hasbro one to actually look like Computron, and with that option you end up with a fuckhuge partsforming chest piece.

The character actually looking like Computron outweighs some fucking feet.

Also, the Takara one is cheaper for anyone who doesn't live in burgerland, and even if you do live in burgerland you're pretty much just paying shipping if you buy off of HLJ and not BBTS or those other shitty american sites.

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>>5603909
>Strafe's alt mode looks sleek instead of a box of robot under a plane

What's wrong, I thought Takaracucks were all about G1 accuracy?

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>>5603909
>>5603996
>and his robot mode is more accurate.

Accurate to what?

>>5603967
Convention show pieces are often not final production pieces and are thus more susceptible to damage, especially during travel.

>>5604017
I'm pretty sure that's just an easily-popped-off piece someone took advantage of for the display. They also had a Chromedome that was torn apart by one one of the platinum edition sweeps.

>>5603997
>Accurate to what?

The cartoon. And other than the head, the robot mode is more accurate to the toy too. Hasbro's has a huge block of orange on the chest for no reason, doesn't have the fin feet, and it doesn't have the fins on the shoulders.

>>5603996
I don't see a box of robot under that plane. Do you?

>>5604017
Geez it's like a hasbro shill robot browses these generals, unable to pick up on jokes.

>>5604017
It was a joke.

>>5604039
>>5604041
People were legitimately confused about it before, so I covered the bases. No harm in that.

>>5604052
I don't think a single person as confused.

>>5604060
>was

>>5603051

He is going to transform from one alt mode to another?

>>5603051
Replace yellow with orange.

Replace grey with black.

Actionmaster Tyranitron.

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did I fix wheeljack?

>>5602896
>cast in clear purple
>completely painted over with completely different colors that will look like shit it chips, and already looks like shit on that hand

I wonder if Takara is just really bad with money? Casting a part in the color you want it to be in in the first place instead of casting it in whatever they want and globbing on paint probably explains why they cost double the Hasbro releases.

>>5604071
The bird/dragon mode can be ridden by a headmaster, and the headmaster combines with the dragon mode to form the lower jaw and arms.

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>>5603408

>>5604104
>combines with the dragon mode
dinosaur mode*

>>5604098
>that Takaradrone that imported the Takara Insecticons even though they had molded in indents for app stickers