TRANSFORMERS GENERAL - R8 AND H8 EDITION

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>>5598927

No one wanted this.

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>>5598930

Fractyl and Packrat - no one wanted these either.

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>>5598935

This though? I wanted this.

>>5598927
Fuck.... I wanted a G2 Megs repaint of that mold. This looks like the closest I'll ever get.

>>5598927
I've been thinking of joining the Transformers Collectors Club at the end of the year.
Is it worth it?

>>5598940

Doesn't matter now. Club's over at the end of next year. Any chance to sign up ended weeks ago.

Sorry buddy.

And, no, it was not worth it by any means.

>>5598935
Speak for your fucking self. I like Fractyl and Packrat. Back when Botcon exclusives were actual new additions to the franchise, instead of regurgitated G1 characters.

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Pick your poison.

>>5598930
Would this even come out right as the other guy?
Why aren't there third party toys of Punch/Counterpunch?
Fuck this.
>>5598938
Toxitron?

So lets talk about Hasbro, and a lot of the odd decisions they've been doing. A lot of people are saying Hasbro is lazy for their Computron. but that isn't really true; even if you think their Computron looks worse(because it really does), they still had to put about as much time into production with those retools as takara did. "Lazy" would be just using Takara's remolds.

But why not,though? Why go through all the trouble of engineering a set of completely different remolds from Takara? Keep in mind those hasbro remolds, in all likelihood, HAD to be engineered by takara, unless Hasbro is starting to do things like that entirely in-house; which I doubt. So Takara basically worked on two sets of Technobot remolds. I can't fathom why they decided to go this route and make more work for both themselves.

Did anyone ask about this at the panel at all, or was it wasted on stupid bullshit questions like asking for more Animated toys?

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>>5598950
>Blah blah blah
>blah blah blah blah blah

LOL

>>5598959
Speaking as someone who doesn't care about G1 accuracy, I don't mind 3/5ths of Hasbro, and I think their car-guy is better than Takara's. Jet-guy is mediocre on both. The Hasbro drilltank is just awful, though. Takara wins by virtue of having a different head sculpt in robot mode, though.

>>5598976
Nope those neckbeards don't have a spine or testicles to stand up to Hasblo in front of all those people....

They did ask about why the single Scattershot though which surprised me

>>5598862
>A highly demanded figure
>Barely a repaint of a Dollar General figure
>A figure no one asked for with shitty parts
The Savage never fails to prove why he shouldn't of had the Joe/TF Clubs in the first place.

>>5598987
> Hasblo
Hoi doi grow up.

>>5598987
It's not even about standing up to Hasbro, its just about clearing to air why there's been such a disconnect between them and takara in the last year.

>>5598938
Toxitron, you beautiful motherfucker.

>>5598935
What mold is Packrat? I don't recall it off-hand

>>5598996
Scamper.

>>5598930

>Counterpunch
>Not Slicer

Fucking hell, Slicer wouldn't even need a head retool and the name makes sense since he has a sword.

>>5598938
FSS or Sub figure?

>>5598990
Actually Tim Curry can still voice act even after the stroke. He did the voice of auntie whispers in Over the Garden Wall.

>>5599006
What's the difference?

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>>5598999
>no Metroplex

That explains why I don't recognize it. Thanks, Anon!

>>5599001
>Punch head is flat as a pancake on the back

>>5599007

Really? All I remember is those pics of him in the wheelchair sometime after the stroke, and that shit was so disheartening to see the guy like that.

Glad to hear he's recovering a bit.

>>5598959

Right.

Takara is always right.

The Hasbro ones I'd consider as background generic fodder.

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>>5599013
>Takara is always right.

>>5598980
Not a titan master.

>>5599005

Basically the the guy won everything because he actually found proof to back up what he was saying about headmasters including Fort Max working on all bodies. Guys against only had their "logic" and flimsy arguments and ad hominem.

>>5598959
this release really helped separate the people who buy the better looking product and the flat out hasbro drone apologists.

>>5599019
>Fort Max head clearly shown on diagram
>Try to claim it's not a titan master

Bwahahahahaha keep moving those goalposts, sonnyboy

>>5599023
>>5599027
Again. It was an example head. Cerebos is NOT a titan master.

>>5599029
Cerebros

>>5598959
Hasbro, actually.
I had no attachment to the Technobots prior to the set, but Strafe, Scattorshot, Afterburner and New Friend Scrounge look good, and i've been looking for a Streetwise mold for a while so Lightspeed doesn't bother me much. Hasbro Nosecone DOES suffer from the lack of a proper head, but this set otherwise is the one that makes me care about Computron.

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More lewd girlbots when?
I feel like I am going to explode!

>>5598959
The Technobots on the Takara side look great, while Hasbro's look alright. That said, I think Hasbro's Computron looks better than Takara's.

>>5599039
Nautica's next isn't it?

>>5598959
If I bought Hasbro Computron and sold each component I didn't want for like $18 shipped and kept Strafe and Special Arm + his gun. Would I find buyers for the rest?

>>5599044

Next year if the leakers are right.

>>5599048
You could try, but it doesn't mean people will buy them.

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>Chromedome and Rewind posed together on show floor

>>5599007
>>5599012
I felt horrible seeing him like that too, I didnt realise that much time had passed, I still see him mentally as looking like he did in Clue. Is he able to walk again?

>>5599052
I'm just trying to get $10 per each guy I don't want.

>>5599048
Afterburner probably, not as likely for the rest.

>>5599056
I wasn't going to buy them at first because they looked so clunky but damn if that didn't push me over into wanting them.

>>5598991
>legends
>dollar general

uh

>>5599048
>Would I find buyers for the rest?

I'm guess there won't be many takers for "Lightsteed", Nosecone and Scattershot.

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>>5599057
>I still see him mentally as looking like he did in Clue

Are you me Anon? I do the same.

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>>5598959
You have more options than that

>>5599064
He might be talking about that cobra commander.

>>5599018
It's THE MORE ACCURATE release fuckface. So yeah, it's the superior release. Fucking hasbro poorfags, I swear to god

>>5599048
I'd actually buy Lightspeed for $10. Dont' care about Computron but I like the colors on that mold.

Is the Headmasters anime any good?

>>5599069
Maketoys looks mostly cool, but Warbotron is an assault on my eyes.

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>>5599068
He shall be the butlering butler forever. Or Frankfurter. Either's good.

>>5599075
No it's pretty forgettable. I think the strongest episodes are pretty the first three episodes ending with the second death of Optimus.

>>5599071
The original release was accurate too, to the comic the design came from.
So the Legends coloration is actually LESS accurate and ends up looking really awkward due to the mix of green used.

>>5599069
so much greebles on warbortron

>>5599087
I prefer Maketoys too

>>5599085
Sorry, IDW fanfiction doesnt count

>>5599071
So by this logic the Hasbro Titans Return Blurr is superior to Takara's? It's the more accurate release after all.

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>>5599071
>more accurate

>>5599090
G1 isn't cannon anymore btw

>>5599093
Why so blue?

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>>5599090
Okay, have fun with the bleeding asshole your anal retentiveness has left you.

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>>5598927
What did they say about his release?

>>5599089
I own the Maketoys one.

He comes off as really skinny in profile but from head on he looks fantastic. The individual bots are all fairly solid too and I'm in love with the altmodes of not-scattershot and not-afterburner.

not-lightspeed is probably the weakest of the set since his alt mode is just a car and his robot mode has some kibbly bits around the knees

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>>5599093
>holy shit ugh toy accuracy! Cartoon accuracy is where it's at!

>TAKARA ALWAYS WINS BABY WOOOOOOOOO

i wonder if weebs ever get whiplash from how fast they flip their opinions

>>5599098
They said he failed the drop test.

>>5598938
I already have this mold. it's not great but its only good/alright

i still really want this though... headsculpt looks tight, so far

>>5599103
why not sell it online and put a sticker on it that says "For adult collectors only"?

>>5599094
It is in my mind!!!

>>5599069
>13 Autobot symbols on Maketoys Computertron

for what purpose?

>>5599103
It looks like a completely different windshield so hopefully it would pass this time!

>>5599101
my favorite Takaradrone thing was when some guy was importing all the Takara Legends figures (the ones that have the RiD app stickers) because "Takara always wins," got them, ripped off the stickers, and found out that they have circular molded indentations.

It was hilarious to watch him justify spending twice as much for an objectively worse toy that he already fucked up. I think he ended up filling the indent with clay and repainting it, lol

>>5599071
>I-I p-p-paid more so i-it's b-b-better!
Nah. I can afford either, but I'm going Hasbro for the better deco, Scrounge, and the new feet parts. Shapeways will likely have a set of replacement heads for the three lacking limbs, so I'll be putting the money I save towards that. More expensive isn't always better, Asper-chan.

>>5598959
Takara

But I really want that fucking Scrounge

>>5599112
>Nah. I can afford either,

suuuuuure you can, lol.

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>>5599105
I like how the back of the box lists him as being part of Sky Reign so they don't have to move First Aid to be the arm.

>>5599115
That looks like a better toy, but a horrible Blurr.

>>5599112
The funny thing about Generations/Legends Springer specifically is that you can find the Legends one on sites like Mandarake for about the same price as you can get the Generations one on Amazon. Assuming he's just not trying to stir shit, "Hasbro poorfag" doesn't even apply to this situation.

>>5598927

... I'm confused. What's wrong with this besides being made by Fun Pub? It seems like a pretty clever idea.

I'd be perfectly happy to get it on the aftermarket.

>>5599118
"Sorry Bluestreak, we're replacing you with Groove for some reason"

any news on Unite Wars Bruticus?

I passed on the Hasbro releases for him

>>5599101
But United Blurr is better

The metallic paint looks really nice irl

>>5599129
lmfao

>>5599125

>Smokescreen

>>5598930
>reading twitter
>people arguing
>"this is only counterpunch! what about punch?"
>"his arm mode is punch"

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FUN PUBE

>>5599121
That's actually pretty true. He's a lot of fun but he's a bit bulky.

>>5599137

>Punch is an arm

I dunno.

I laughed.

>>5599100
Also, even if I like not-Lightspeed's alt and robot modes the least he is the best limb of the set.

>>5599132
but shiny paint bro

please no bully

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>>5599137
>his arm mode is punch

>>5599069

Both of these are overpriced and over designed

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>>5599137

>>5599105
>why not sell it online
see
>>5599098
>AVAILABLE ONLINE THIS MAY!

>>5599103
That was a lie Mark Weber told me last year.

>>5599115
No.

TFA Blurr > Everything Else.

>>5599171
I love TFA, but that figure was really meh.

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Wierdwolf just about the only decent thing I've seen thanks to actually using ball joints for feet which actually means he has ball joints on the robot feet. Everyone else is greeble city. It's a damn shame how shitty the Alpha Trion's alternate modes came out.

Scattershot: Hasbro = Takara
Nosecone: Hasbro < Takara
Afterburner: Hasbro > Takara
Lightspeed: Hasbro < Takara
Strafe: Hasbro > Takara

The best option is to mix and match between them

>>5599082
Is there any good Headmasters fiction?

>Pay for Botcon Megatron off eBay on Thursday
>Seller was going to ship it from the con by Friday
>Still no update on it

Fuck, I really hope they were actually able to get one before it sold out.

>>5599183
what if i told you there's an entire children's cartoon called Headmasters. could you take a guess what the show is about?

>>5599179
IMO the 3P Weirdwolf and Mindwipe actually look better. Hasbro has a better Skullcruncher though.

>>5599188
...he was talking in reference to how bad the cartoon is.

>>5599188
Right but the Headmaster cartoon is pretty bad even compared to the American g1. Masterforce and Victory are both better made.

>>5599183
>Is there any good Headmasters fiction?

1) Rebirth

Does IDW count? I think they have some decent characterizations for Chromedome and Brainstorm and Hardhead as well as Fortress Maximus.

>>5599200

God, Rebirth is utterly terrible

>>5599200
>decent characterizations for Chromedome and Brainstorm
They're both gay

>>5599205
That is only one part of their characterization. Brainstorm is a mad scientist who likes making WMDs and other implausible scientific devices to show everyone how smart he is. Chromedome is a mindreader who has abused his talents for the war and wants a fresh start.

>>5599203
Which goes to show that Headmasters is even worse compared to Rebirth.

>>5599205
Is it really gay if their species doesn't have sexes or genitals. Even the fembots are just a different subgroup like beastformers or gestalts.

>>5599205
That's basically an inevitability when you have so few feminine robots with a fanbase who wants more but bitches about actually getting more of them.

One of my favorite part is that the Timelines (TFCC exclusives) had a comic centered around them where Stylor was a targetmaster, so his synonymous presence with Chromedome meant he was an awkward third wheel in the relationship between him and Rewind.

>>5599226
That situation was over after three hours.

>>5599235
It was probably to make sure no one stole any of their stuff while talking the event runners anyway.

>>5599235
Doesn't matter. It was shitty of them and shouldn't have happened in the first place.

3 hours is a lot of time at a con, that's a lot of sales that didn't happen because of shitty ass coordinators.

>>5599235
Really? What happened?

>>5599239

they shouldn't have broken the rules that were publicly announced well in advance of the convention, then

also Hasbro was the one who asked them to do this, not FP

>>5599018

Ok that's the rare misstep...that and whenever they use chrome.

>>5599039

Most likely a Takara release if Nightbeat is made.

>>5599247
It's no wonder this is the last botcon

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>>5598927
Reposting the updated checklist. I'm not sure if I should include SDCC exclusives to it, but so far we have the Titan Force box set:
>Deluxe Brainstorm in IDW colors
>Voyager Sentinel Prime in.. G1 cartoon colors?
>RID Warrior Windblade in grey

Feedback about whether or not to add Con exclusives will be appreciated.

Also, heil Takara. I guess.

>>5599253
>It's no wonder this is the last botcon

Right even if you are a fanpub apologist. It's pretty clear Funpub couldn't satisfy either Hasbro and the fans. One wanted them touting the brand and product lines and cracking down on 3ps while holding back on information while the other side wanted more freedom and better exclusives and more information from Hasbro. Either way they couldn't satisfy everyone. And their own selfservinng and cold grasping for a few dollars and cents probably didn't help.

>>5599186

Apparently they sold out for show. From what I heard. Some fat ass and two of his neckbeard friends some how broke the one per attendee limit and bought them all out.

>>5599260
>>Voyager Sentinel Prime in.. G1 cartoon colors?

There was a Sentinel Prime in the cartoons?

>>5599205
>>5599220

So if you want to blame gay robots, blame Simon Furman.

>>5599212

Exactly. It's annoying how people only focus on single trait and not all.

This is how flanderization starts.

"It was a limit of 1 Thursday and Friday. The limit is lifted on Saturday. " - Fuck you too Fun Pub. It's not even the last day you really fucked over your weekend crowd.

>>5599266
scalpers bought the whole lot.

not a good way for peter and brian to end botcon.

>>5599226
What happened? They weren't stupid enough to bring 3rd party shit were they?

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>>5599267
Yes, but he was blue.

>>5599263

third parties rape you in the ass more than FP ever did

and FP was already pretty bad

>>5599269
See >>5599263

>>5599260
Any idea when wave 1 is going to hit retail?

>>5599278
That is technically a retcon from the allspark almanac written by Ask Vector Prime fellow.

>>5599200
The cartoon shat all over the Nebulons/Headmaster concept.

Read the Marvel Headmasters comic (#1-4) and Marvel TF #37-42, 46-51, 54-59, 62, 66, 69-75, and 79.

Marvel Nebulons are the best Nebulons in that there is no Hive bullshit, the Nebulons look just like humans and not a bunch of green skinned geriatrics, and Comic Book Zarak is basically an alien version of US politician John McCain, American Bad-Ass.....

>>5599279
At least they're unique molds with great engineering and design, not to mention multiple options per character.

Unlike FP where you get a bunch of recolored molds that were already released. Since they're based on HasTak designs you know they're already shit too, so at least that's consistent. And don't count on having other options if a character is shit.

>>5599278
>>5599282

eh what's the harm of that being a retcon.

it's not like there was ever a name for him before.

Same with Prowl II or Energon Treadbolt being a woman.

Literally who's....might as well spice things up a bit.

>>5599281
I assume somewhere in late may, early june. I assume so, at least. My assuptions are to be tempered with the fact that i'm an impatient tool when it comes to stuff like this.

>>5599286

... do you seriously think convention exclusive toys ever had a chance of being unique molds? Seriously? That is completely, utterly unfeasible.

>>5599226
>vendor selling knockoffs of official product at an officially sanctioned event
>surprised when they get told to fuck off

I wonder when Hasbro will finally come down on Turds like the Hulkster on Gawker

>>5599296
Never. Trying to enforce Intellectual Copyright is never going to happen short of TPP getting approved and China begging to join.

>>5599294
Well some of us at least hope they would give us some fan favorites instead of recycling the same obscure G2/late G1 Action Master garbage.

>>5599296
>knockoff
LOL

you need to check your defs son, you're all sorts of messed up.

>>5599260
>Also, heil Takara

Needs a picture of the MP Soundwave and his nazi salute hand, with the words "Heil Takara" and either "The jews fear the samurai" on it.

>>5599300
They can seize them at customs since they're unlicensed.

>>5599305
>stealing designs
>infringing copyrights

>>5598927
So if this is the last year of Botcon is this the last year of the subscription service too?

Because some of these figures I kinda like. I think I'll subscribe for the first time since the first year they did it.

>>5599240
>>5599276
>>5599296
They weren't selling turds apparently. They were handing out flyers for a meet up at another hotel and Funpub/Hasbro didn't like it.

They weren't actually breaking any rules.

>>5599276

They were handing out fliers for an entirely different 'con at a different hotel where they could sell 3P stuff.

>>5599302

They did that with the set that completed the G1 seekers. And people complained that they were being forced to spend exclusive prices to get essential characters.

and then Hasbro put them all out at retail anyway.

And even then they still made shit like fucking Headmaster Scorponok and an unreleased Pretender.

so tell me, anon, what's "fan favorite" enough to be good enough to be sold to you as an exclusive, but not something that should be sold at retail? If they can't make toys of obscure characters, and it'd be screwing people over to make "important" characters exclusive, who SHOULD they be making toys of?

and if your pie in the sky dream of all new molds being released at a convention happened, I guarantee you people would riot over the fact that they had to pay 100 dollars for them instead of 10. That price isn't gonna drop, either, because it costs more recoup costs on individual members of a smaller production run than a mass retail one.

Do they have any good TF figure to scale for the Fort Max? I mean little people that could go into small vehicles.

>>5599296
Realistically I think Hasbro knows they can no better go after 3rd party stuff than they can bootlegs. From a manufacturing standpoint they both have the same headache; they can't exactly track down and have the companies/factories make these things shut down that easily. They'd have to have cooperation with the chinese government to do so and even if they managed to shut down one, another would pop up overnight. A waste of legal fees.

The only avenue they really have to combatting 3rd parties is buy closing off retailers from selling them; usually by refusing to do business with them unless they stop selling 3rd parties. Hasbro did this to get KOs out of Big Lots; giving them cheap alternative toys in exchange.

I thin another thing is that we forget that Hasbro's design team is a whole other level from the big business guys atHasbro. The design team is most consciously aware of the 3rd parties, and they try now to combat them by offering alternatives in the mainline. If the bigger business guys at hasbro are aware of it, I think they just see it as a nuisance that doesn't make enough to consider a threat, and since they probably don't collect with toys themselves, they probably just think they're just like bootlegs. Now, if those CEOs, presidents, managers, etc. ever consider 3rd parties to be a significant threat, then I'd see the hammer being brought down; likely by refusing to do business with places like BBTS, TFsource; in otherwords making it impossible to buy 3rd party stuff online outside of sites that don't sell Hasbro or takara toys at all.

>>5599316

They shouldn't bother with con exclusive figures at all. They're usually raw shit and overpriced as fuck.

>>5599316
Just another facet of what is wrong in the TF community. We want new and unique molds but don't want to shell out for the actual production costs so we get recolors and different heads and complain because it's not varied enough.

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>>5599318

Nothing is in scale with Fortmax.

>>5599308
Probably not. Botcon may change in name and style(because FP bought the actual name), but there'll probably still be conventions, and the fanclub service will likely continue. Hasbro has months to reorganize.

>>5599323

here's the thing

Hasbro actually has no PROBLEM with the third party stuff

The whole "we don't want third party stuff at the convention" thing? It's to maintain plausible deniability. Because if this is snaking around underneath their nose and they acknowledge it, it opens all sorts of nasty legal precedents from the competition they actually fucking care about.

They're trying to disassociate from it to protect themselves AND so the third parties don't end up shooting themselves in the foot. However, TFSource and its fans continuing to wave their asses in their face about everything kind of undermines that, so they're not only showing Hasbro disrespect, they're undermining the thing they're supposed to be fucking supporting. For fans, it's about dickwaving, for TF Source, it's about promoting themselves for the most buck they can make in the moment.

TF Source, for the record, is just as bad as FunPub is, but that's another story.

>>5598959
The only thing missing from takaras to make it perfect is the new hands/feet. Don't know why takara didn't use them and these combiners really could benefit from ankle tilts.

>>5599331
Fortress Maximus would have to be as tall as a 2-floor house to be in scale with regular transformers.

>>5599260
I don't know about just Con exclusives but you can add all the box sets if you want

>>5599309
>They weren't actually breaking any rules
They were actually. One of the rules forbid anyone from promoting any other events.

Whoops I meant this >>5599338

for >>5599318

Actually, make that 3 floors

>>5599323
An interesting thought but realistically you can't stop 3P by having Hasbro refuse to sell to online retailers if they don't stop for the simple fact that many online retailers that are used for those types of figures are actually based in China.

What's more, I believe that a gentleman actually owns a few 3P companies as well as a number of factories, effectively allowing him to bypass many hurtles that would cause other businesses trouble.

To combat it, Hasbro would have had to act many years ago. The ship has sailed at this point.

>>5599325
You're moving goal posts everywhere. There's nothing wrong with con-exclusives as an idea. Pretty much every major con does them.

I do think that FP over saturated the market horribly on them, though. The first year few years of them running the con all had decent boxsets. There were some mediocre things but in general, the sets filled holes in collections and it was exciting to get so many toys. the problem is that FP constantly tried to outdo itself with quantity over quality. The prior BC organizers did 2-4 figures a year, most years only 2. But those toys were mostly based on desirable molds, or had great paint apps. Instead of trimming the fat and doing figures that people actually wanted, FP stuck with lofty ideas no one knew what to do with.

So I hop the next con organizers go back to basics. Japanese conventions get Masterpiece redecoes as con exclusives, why can't we? An MP redeco with a new head would be really cool as a con exclusive.

>>5599325

I'm sure once they went that route, everyone in the fandom would react with the calm, reasoned demeanor to which they are accustomed.

and by that I mean, they would fucking riot.

>>5599309
>weren't selling turds
>were handing out flyers for a place to sell turds

Why are Turd munchers so entitled?

>>5599356

>So I hop the next con organizers go back to basics. Japanese conventions get Masterpiece redecoes as con exclusives, why can't we? An MP redeco with a new head would be really cool as a con exclusive.

there's been like maybe a handfill. Others have been stuff like RID Scourge/Black Convoy, Armada Megatron, ROTF Mindwipe and Skystalker into G2 Dreadwing and Smokescreen, etc.

>>5599364
See, most of those where fantastic and well thought out, though. THAT'S what we need at a con. Not forced themes.

>>5599356
I'd also like more original characters every now and then. One of my most-wanted Botcon figures ever is Antagony, who was completely made up along with the rest of the Botcon BW characters for the convention.

>>5599364

oh, and none of Takara's convention exclusive MPs have had new tooling, by my recollection. That'd be extremely expensive to do for an MP in such small numbers.

>>5599369

dude, I'm pretty sure that if FP did G2 Dreadwing and Smokescreen instead of Takara, they'd be called lazy for it. They're just redecoes.

Hell, FP did their own god damn version of Scourge. Every other Takara convention exclusive is a black repaint, typically.

>>5599093
I know people around here hate IDW but I really wish they'd kept the winged head from IDW blurr

>>5599371

except the moment they could get away with it, 3H did toys of older existing characters too.

Also, FP tried to do that with toys like Landshark, and everyone said they wanted existing characters instead.

>>5598959
Hasbro, I like their combined mode better than Takara's.

>>5598959
>how do you want your technobots f@m?
>JUST COST CUT MY SHIT UP

>>5598927
>>5598938
Neat

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>>5598959
>tfw Hasbro's is the better version

>>5599377
3H kept it balanced, though. We got Cyclonous, but we also got CatScan and two minibots. We got the G1 lambo twins, but we also got Roulette and shadow striker. Plus at the time, we had no idea we'd ever see a G1 revival, so those characters where in demand. FunPub tried to keep doing that even though Classics became a thing. If you do interesting redecoes and characters, people will come to them. Landshark didn't sell, but nothing that year did well anyway..

>>5599101
The fuck you talking about? Nobody liked United Blurr.

>>5599404

I feel like if Roulette and Shadow Striker came out today, they'd get the same reaction characters like Landshark and Ricochet and Shattered Glass get.

It was a completely different time.

>>5599069
i've always liked warbotron but never owned any. peaugh and emgo say the leaders are squeaky and feel like they're gonna break. None of that is true, is it?

>>5599409
No, they'd be loved by virtue of the fact that they're fembots, with feminine headsculpts.

>>5599260
>brawn is a titan master
Legends brawn never.

>>5598959
>Afterburner
Takara

>Lightspeed
Hasbro

>Strafe
Hasbro

>Nosecone
Hasbro

>Scattershot
Takara

>>5598959
What's the likelihood of us getting Hasbro factory sloppy seconds?
I'll buy Scrounge from China or Vietnam.

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>>5599424
>>Nosecone
>Hasbro
>>Lightspeed
>Hasbro

>>5598959
What bothers me is that Hasbro has the best combiner deco but Takara has the best individual figures and weapons.

>>5599410
They're definitely really goddamn squeaky based on the videos of Not-Slaught I saw, but I can't say much about them feeling like the torso guys would break.

I'd like to, however, bring up the fact that they keep making ratchet joints out of translucent plastic and expecting it to hold properly over a long period of time, and regularly include replacement ratchets that are still translucent for some goddamn reason.

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>>5599424

>>Lightspeed
>Hasbro

>>Nosecone
>Hasbro

>>5599430
Some of us just really like that deadEnd mold.

"I DID hear that it was BBTS that bought about 400 Megatrons (guy sitting behind me at one of the panels said that). It really makes me feel a lack of respect for BBTS if true; that's REAL scalping right there."

Goddamn it BBTS, that's almost half the stock. The show had 850 Megatron for sale!

>>5598959
Takara
>remolded
>new weapons
>better paint

Hasbro
>new combiner hands and feet

Not a tough decision.

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>Meanwhile, at Takara

"Stupid Americans forget to make rest of toy! Okay team, let's get to work! GAMBATE!"

>>5599424
I don't get why would you want Hasbro's Nosecone.
They only difference between it and Brawl is the drill.

>>5599260
Ok, time to post what you'll be buying:

TM:
Brawn, and maybe Hasbro Hardhead for a body (we are never getting a Brawn figure, I have to accept that).

Legends:
Wheelie, Rewind, Rumble

Deluxe:
Hardhead (both Takara, and Hasbro), Skullcruncher (Takara), Brainstorm whenever he comes out, and all of deluxe wave 2.

Voyager:
Galvatron, Astrotrain (Takara)

Leader:
Blaster (has to be on clearance, at least 10-15 dollars less)

Titan:

Nothing, FM shares too much with Metro and something looks off about the design.

>>5599452
Yeah, they aren't doing that this time, at least for now.

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>>5599447
i never thought of how exploitable this panel was

>>5599458
Everything but Stripes, maybe skipping Scourge and some of the Titan masters (mainly brawn) as well

>>5599459
Yeah. Their CW Shockwave is coming with Squeezeplay's headmaster.

>>5599452

The individual Titan Masters without bodies are being released with Legends toys. Cancer/Crashbash is coming with Shockwave, Nightbeat with Rewind, etc.

>people are actually going to buy the solo Headmaster guys

Some people are desperate, I guess.

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If Straxus got a JP release. I hope Scrounge gets one.

>>5599458
Maybe some of the Legends and Astrotrain.
I don't even know nor care to know most of these faggots.

>>5599473

dude, they're so this line can appeal to kids. Generations has always walked the fine line between being appealing to collectors and younger people. That's why the heads are all interchangable and you can, like, buy a headmaster if you lose the one it came with so your toy doesn't go headless forever

Honestly, it's frustrating how myopic and self centered the TF fandom can be. Hell, we got a decent deluxe sized Nightbeat not too long ago

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>>5599458

Plus Takara Computron and Liokaiser.

>>5599473
>Not buying tiny Apeface
And people say I'm a dummy.

>>5599479
I'm not talking about the kids.

>>5599486
Apeface isn't tiny. Don't give a fuck. If he's not a Voyager sized triple changing jet monkey, it's a waste.

>>5599484
I really want Takara Leokaiser to be awesome, but I don't think even they can pull that off since they need to add a ton of shit to get it right.

>>5599473
only by proxy of the takara deluxes having them packed in

>>5599490

If they're going to remold damn near everything for Computron-Computron! Of all fucking things, the least popular combiner of them all-Theres no way they're not going to go to great lengths for their original Japan-only combiner.

>>5599490
I wouldn't be surprised if they just ditched the Sky Lynx mold and made a combining into a torso Leozak and Jallguar Deluxes.

>>5599493
I mean all these guys without bodies. Apeface, Snapdragon, Brawn, ect.

>>5599474
That's an awful paint job.

>>5599450
400 is an exaggeration I believe, someone reported there were only less than 100 left by this morning. The most any single person bought was 10. However, that's enough to wipe out a whole stock at that rate in just a few hours.

>>5599498
>they actually retool Sky Lynx to be a headmaster version of Jallguar
>head transforms into Leozack
>takarafags commit suicide in droves

>>5599440
>liking red Wheeljack

Hasbro's actually looks like the G1 toy's vehicle mode and has a better head.

>>5599454
Hasbro's has better colors. Of course my ideal version would be the Takara mold with Hasbro colors

>>5599496
I know but it's still a lot:

-New heads for everyone
-2 new molds
-Staff things for everyone
-Sword for Leozack
-Detachable AA turret for Killbison that doubles as a combiner weapon
-Staff combiner weapon for Leokaiser
-Breast Force animals that double as guns

>>5599454
because takara nosecone's drill sticks way too far out in leg mode

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This is the weirdest choice for a headmaster.

>>5599510
All of these opinions are terrible. Hasbro is trying to pass off an unpainted car roof and front window as a single glass dome. Awful deco choice.

Afterburner has stupid beige plastic and green windows for no reason. Nosecone is Brawl. Nothing else needed to be said. Strafe is okay, but wrong colors.

>still wanting toy colors instead of show colors

I just don't understand this mental retardation.

>>5599070
yeah, they were likely refering to the joes. ninja scarlett is highly requested and cobra commander had an all black wave 2 version almost part for part the same as the club one without megatron

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>>5599452
That clobber head will look nice on the g1 repainted foc grimlock, never liked the game head.

>>5599520
Put it on one of the arms then.
I swear Americans are autistic.

>>5599525
>never liked the game head

You're well on your way, not get rid of the rest of the toy.

>>5599518
>-New heads for everyone

Couldn't cost THAT much.

>-2 new molds

For who? Unless you think they'll engineer a new combiner torso made out of 2 bots. They'll be using the Superion molds for the jets, Brawl for 1 leg, and Nosecone for the other.

>-Staff things for everyone

Probably will be skipped in lieu of just guns.

>-Sword for Leozack

This might happen, in lieu of giving him a gun.

>-Detachable AA turret for Killbison that doubles as a combiner weapon

Handfootgun molded to look like it probably.

>-Staff combiner weapon for Leokaiser

Probably won't happen. A multisection staff is probably too much.

>-Breast Force animals that double as guns

Just gonna be their guns, maybe with some animal details. But not going to be whole lil' transforming gunbots, no.

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>>5599521
Just need to repaint a blitzwing/doubledealer.

>>5599523

Takara has done plenty of shit like that on their UW releases. See painting part of Air Raid's cockpit and making Dragstrip's shoulder's black cuz that's where his wheels used to be.

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>Getaway's head on Chromedome's card art

>>5599523
>I just don't understand this mental retardation.

A lot of people didn't watch G1 Season 3. And a lot of us mainly grew up with the toys. I myself am mostly connected to the G1 combiners through the bootlegs they used to sell at Big Lots and in easter baskets.

>>5599536
Wow, that's just sad.

>>5599056
I love it.

>>5598959
My offer stands.
I'm willing to switch parts with people. I want Takara Scattershot with Hasbro Strafe and Nosecone. Nothing else is absolute I will take whatever.

>>5599536
This looks pretty cool.
How's Chromedome as a character?

>>5599536
My word those are some thick legs.

>>5599521
Who is this? I can't find any info on him.

>>5599557
Flywheels with a new name. It's so much harder to tell when they're just heads.

>>5599532
>wanting the worst mold in years again

No

>>5599560

Flywheels' name never made sense anyway. Skytread is better

>>5599561

>the worst mold in years

The classic seeker mold?

>>5599564
Hahahaha

>>5599564
The Classics Seeker is not bad.
How else would transfags cover their dirty walls if it didn't exist?

>>5599563
Flywheels is partnered with someone called Battletrap that has both a helicopter and a wheeled vehicle as components.
It is a cheeky reference.

>>5599570

I guess if you like poorly articulated arrangements of squares, it's a good mold

>>5599561
>worst mold
Has an easily fixed flaw. Far from the worst mold.

>>5599573

we're pretty sure their names were switched, dude. They're even called by each other's names when they appeared in Headmasters.

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>>5599523
>Hasbro is trying to pass off an unpainted car roof and front window as a single glass dome.

It was good enough in '87 and it's good enough now.

>>5599580
>The original one is curvy like Dead End but has a long front and fin like Breakdown.
Huh.

>>5599575
No, guy. I said it was a glorified jar for aspies.

>>5599430

The car mode and limb mode for lightspeed is pretty good. The coloring for takara's is better, but it's still on the wheeljack mold.

>>5599576
>easily fixed flaw

You mean the entire toy being made of shitty deformed plastic that can't hold together?

Yeah I guess if you recast the entire toy in a less shitty material you could "easily fix it." Barring that it's an irreparable mess that belongs in the trash, and you're a bad person for trying to trick people reading this thread into accidentally buying it.

>>5599048
Yeah, you probably would. I can see lots of people being interested in "new" individual bots/limbs for completing combiners, and there's many crazy individuals who build things like Ferguson Prime and White Power Prime, and even 4x Takeoff combiners.

>>5599580
Ugh...... Nobody cares about accuracy to a shitty toy nobody cares about. We're all about cartoon accuracy now that that's what BASED TAKARA is giving us!!!

>>5599591
>You mean the entire toy being made of shitty deformed plastic that can't hold together?
What are you on about? Never heard or had any of these issues, kid.

>>5599598
Then you must not own the toy. Thanks for playing though.

>>5599601
You can fix him with to little plates of plastic behind the shoulders

>>5599580
It was good in 87 because the windshield actually looks like a fucking windshield, not an obviously molded roof with a fucking lightbar on it and with white colors randomly crawling down the side of the car

>>5599601
Seeing as how I said I've never had any of these issues you must either be bad at reading, wanting to start shit for no reason, or just stupid.

>>5599605
That's the only constant with his issues. Don't know what this other guy is going on about.

>>5599601
Do you only own the last version of the mold? I can understand it suffering from structure issues near the end of its admittedly long life span but the version(s) I have were never "deformed" And hold together just fine.

>>5599549

just watch rebirth, he has at least 70 seconds of screen time.

>>5599605
That doesn't fix him, it only allows him to sort of hold a pose temporarily. His shoulders are still soft plastic so they'll flex if you ever try to move him.

It's almost funny how bad he is. He's KO quality, at the outside. Plus he looks fucking atrocious.

>>5599613
>Generations Blitzwing
>holding together

Is this a joke? Or am I on Allspark?

>>5599620
But it does fix him. You can also shave the extra plastic.

What is your issue? Why are you making things up? Did you see your mother get raped with a blitzwing?

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>>5599622
Disreagrd what I said. I suck cocks.
For whatever reason I though we were talking about classics Starscream mold.

>>5599623
I own the toy, niggerlips. I can tell you right now - short of retooling the entire thing it's impossible to fix. It's like thinking you can somehow fix Prime Airrachnid; those two are easily some of the worst Transformers of the modern era/

It's a bad toy, simple as that. You got suckered out of your money. It's time to accept it and move on.

>>5599629
So because you can't fix its very easily fixed issue you get this upset?

I'm sorry, buddy. Maybe one day you'll recover from seeing that face go in to your mom's cooter. I mean that has to be the issue because you wouldn't be lying like this.

>>5599625
Oh. Yeah Classics Starscream is fine.

>>5599629
you must own the hasbro version. The takara version fixes all that

>>5599631
>fixable
>blitzwing
when will this meme die?

Show me a video of a Blitzwing that has been "fixed" that still holds together. Because if you are somehow able to alchemically convert soft plastic into plastic that doesn't deform, I'll be goddamn impressed.

But we both know you'll just try to shrug it off and claim that it's totally an easy fix, guize, because you know inside that no amount of polishing can transform a turd into a gold nugget.

Fucking Allspark trannies, I swear to god.

>>5599635
>im-fucking-plying

the takara Blitzwing doesn't fix shit, idiot.

>legends shockwave never ever

has it been cancelled?

>>5599643
>using soft plastic for shoulders
I never understood why they did that.
They completely ruined Rattrap with that shit.

>>5599546
I'll sell you nosecone for $10 + shipping.

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>>5599646

>>has it been cancelled?

no

>>5599643
All you gotta do is layer some plastic in the shoulder area. I'd video mine if that didn't mean digging it out of storage.

Here's a video with no annoying voiceover that I fould to illustrate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cV00MNG7ls

Just cut out a piece of styrene cement it where this guy puts that metal piece.

They're even shapeways pieces that fit in the spots already there.

It's not a /great/ mold, but it's far from the worst. Outside of the shoulders its find. Although his feet look kind of dumb.

>>5599643
What is your problem? You have two ways of fixing the issue. Adding tiny bits of plastic or shaving some plastic.

You somehow have the inability to fix something so simple and what do you do? Make up so much shit without any proof and go on tangents and strawmanning like crazy. All because YOU can't do something very simple. Nothing more than an entitled child screaming because you can't get your way.

>>5599653
what else they were trying to save money.

>>5599658
>nothing more than an entitled child screaming because you can't get your way.

to be fair that is like 75% of the fandom even with the classy bits of racism.

>>5599656
TFW no Legends Soundwave.

>>5599653
I don't either. It made sense with the Dinobots because they had pointy peices with lots of undercuts, but Blitzwing had no such thing.

It was probably because they had to have soft plastic for the nosecone, and just added more stuff to that sprue, They ended up destroying the toy though

>>5599657
>outside of the biggest flaw that destroys it it's not got many problems

L O L!!!!

>>5599675
>destroys it
It's easily fixed. If it was "destroyed" then it wouldn't be fixable. Keep trying though.

>>5599658
>WAAAAHHH WAAAAAHHH WAAAAHHHH why don't you like this shit toy?!
>You have a responsibility to LOVE EVERYTHING BY BASED HASBRO!

kek, called it. eat shit kikelord

>if you just do all these repairs to the toy its fine!

This is the stupidest argument and I see it pop up time and time again from the retards around here. If it needs to be fixed then it wasn't good in the first place.

>>5599680
Haha okay gotcha. You're a person of feeble mind.

>>5599685
I doubt the mold is inherently bad and it'd be just fine if they had gone with hard plastic on the shoulders.
Doesn't excuse what they did, though. It's a shit toy because of it.

>>5599687
>You're a obvious troll
fixed

>>5599691
Yeah, fresh from the package it's pretty shit. Although if you just want it to shit on a shelf it'd be find.

All we're telling that other guy is that it's not much effort to fix it. And since that's the "biggest flaw" that "destroys it". It's pretty easy to undestroy it. He's just being a dick for reactions.

>>5599654
Shoot me an email after prices are solid. Don't want to gyp you in case it's more expensive than you think.

>>5599657
Just so anyone who has done this knows, clays will leak out plasticizers when left in contact with plastic for a couple weeks, leaving a permanent residue on the toy that won't come off.

Also note that if you do the destructive option of sanding, you have to be extra careful because there's a sweet spot for the removal of material that is fractions of a millimeter in size. If you remove too much the toy won't be able to transform anymore, and that sweet spot differs from toy to toy. If you're only sanding the ends of the screw pegs and screw up you can build up material again with super glue, but some of them require you to sand the edges of the torso which is irreparable. Worse, some of them can't actually be fixed solely by sanding because the amount of material that has to be removed for the shoulders to peg in is so great that it will impede the toy's transformation.

You're better off with carefully cutting pieces of styrene to fit snugly inside that gap in the shoulder and not using any kind of adhesive, then sanding if you absolutely have to.

I don't blame people for not fucking with it, honestly. I've fixed a couple for other people, but if I only had one I would be afraid to mess with it too. I know I screwed my first one up.

Honestly this was something that should never have made it off the factory floor.

>>5599698
Why not just recast it in Epoxy for a permanent fix?

>>5599699
This will also work.

>>5599643
Wow seriously, if I didn't have to UNfix my Blitzwing to demonstrate how to fix it I'd make a video and spam it every thread just to shut up these debates. It is fixable and easy, in fact I'm blown away that the super glue used to hold the pieces in place has held for all these years.

>>5599697
He is probably trying to gyp you, $10 for a modern deluxe from a special set doesn't even talk about any other details or what abouts? Check around on forums, don't give that guy your attention.

>>5599479
>got a decent deluxe sized Nightbeat not too long ago
>decent
Ha.

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>>5599718

It's only good for one thing......

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>>5599718

>>5599056

Don't encourage the progressive agenda, Hasbro.

Fagbots. Good grief.

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TIME FOR BLITZWING

If Hasbro was smart they would release those new Computron feet/hands in all the various colors because they are great and a perfect size.

The turd hands are too gangly and the feet are huge clown shoes and suffer from needing to do pointless things like turn into guns.

>>5599727
>suffer from needing to do pointless things like turn into guns.
The guns don't even look good either.

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Any guesses as to who's head this is on Weirdwolfs card?

>>5599727
Even as a HTS exclusive or something.

But that would be smart, and this IS Hasbro we're talking about.

>>5599723
You're on the wrong side of history, friendo.

>>5599729
The head reminds me of rocky's scanning mode helmet in the power rangers movie and I love it.

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>>5599723
I for one welcome our new gay robot overlords

>>5599727
Not only that, i'm surprised they haven't done a blindbag series of random 5mm peg weapons from across the franchise. instead we have tiny titans.

>>5599479
It's pretty bad. It's got those awful little ratchets that end up one off where they click but flop between two spots.

>>5599729
Another gay homofuck character from IDW?

>>5599741
Cause kids won't care.

>>5599747
>kids won't care to have a bunch of new weapons for toys that aren't even transformers

>>5599723
Wait what?

>>5599753
They won't care. That's how Hasbro is looking at it.

New thread >>5599760

>>5599656
I hope we get an official Legends Soundwave at some point in the next few years. The 3P option looks cool, but isn't Soundwavey enough for my tastes.

>>5599721
>>5599722
Someone explain this meme.

>>5599188

No need to act like a cunt.

>>5599212

Yeah, but teh gay ruins the rest of it.

Damn progressive agenda

>>5599260

So who were Skytread and Clobber originally named? Im presuming theyre G1 characters with names that couldnt be copyrighted

>>5599260

So Sentinel Prime is being released both retail AND SDCC sets?

>>5599285

I prefer the head robots are the REAL entity and their vehicles become exosuits premise over the heads being separate organic beings premise

>>5599309
>They were handing out flyers for a meet up at another hotel

And...? Anyone who could pick up flyers presumably paid admission to get in. So Hasbro already made their money with them. It's not like Hasbro has other conventions at the same time of these other cons. So it's not like these other conventions would be taking money AWAY from them

>>5599473

I like that they come with little vehicles. It harkens back to the Micromaster Transports and tiny vehicles that came with larger Micromaster playsets

>>5599523
>I just don't understand this mental retardation.

What I don't understand is why you have to be such a cunt about it.

>>5599536
>>5599539

Who cares? It's just packaging. Just throw it in the trash and enjoy the toy

>>5599439
That's a shame. Designwise, if they cut down on the greeble a bit, i'm in love with them enough to call them definitive versions, but i guess they have lots of spots to improve on

>>5599680

>>People like this are why I divorced myself from the fandom

>>5599721

Thank Dr Legbeat

>>5599731

I'm on the right side of morality, though.

Not my fault civilization is sliding straight to shit.

>>5599916

Okay I get Skytread is Flywheels, but who is Clobber?

>>5599721
>>5599722
Thank Dr Legbeat

>>5599727
>Hasbro
>smart
Not gonna happen.