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transformers general: apeface edition

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More botcon shit here
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>>5598327
I love this tiny apeface so much.
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tilts
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>last thread some guy was complaining about no apeface
I wonder what his opinion on this one is?
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>>5598332
>wanting straight betatron and streetwise repaints
>wanting a repainted groove and brawl with minimal retooling

I'll give them Strafe and Scrounge, though. That's it.
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>>5598332
>SCROUNGE
>I was amazed he actually has a new accurate head

Considering the rest of of the box set, I think everyone was amazed the cheapest part of it got the special treatment.
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>>5598339
Just fucking sell sets of these in different colors. C'mon, they have to know people's but them.
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Wave One:
>Titan Master
Siren
Squeezeplay
Horribull
Nightbeat

>Legends
Rewind
Stripes
Wheelie

>Deluxe
Hardhead
Scourge
Blurr
Skullcruncher

>Voyager
Sentinel Prime
Galvatron

>Leader
Blaster
Powermaster Prime

Wave Two:
>Titan Master
Brawn
Grimlock
Flywheels
Apeface

>Legends
Ravage
Rumble
Laserbeak

>Deluxe
Weirdwolf
Mindwipe
Chromedome
Highbrow

>Voyager
Alpha Trion
Astrotrain

>Leader
Soundwave

>Unknown Wave
Deluxe Brainstorm
Overlord (Leader?)

>Titan
Fortress Maximus
Trypticon

>Combiner Boxset
Victorion
Computron w/ Legends Scrounge
Liokaiser (not announced yet)
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pros about hasbro computron
>afterburner is orange
>hands/feet
>scrounge

cons about hasbro computron
>literally everything else

and the pro about afterburner is somewhat nullified by the fact that it fucking uses groove's head instead of the new one takara made.
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>>5598343
The Dead End is closer to the original.
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>>5598332
If he just didn't say weebs I wouldn't give a fuck. But I don't have an oar in any boat over that has tak shit, I just buy the figures I think are better, and it's fairly obvious that in that case the Takara set has the majority better figures, at least to me.
It's people like that that use divisive and pejorative words that continue the circle of sneering hatred over bits of plastic that help make this a fandom with a high level of toxicity in it.

Also he's a faggot.
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>>5598332
>wanting a Japanese thing makes you a weeb
>on a website dedicated to Japanese transforming robots
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>>5598348
>closer to the original
>with that streetwise head, a lightbar, and all the fucking random white slopped all over it

nope
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>>5598347
Yeah, and you can't even swap with the Takara head since it's bright red, which classes with the rest of the colors.
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There's barely any paint apps on this. They really gave Brawn the butt end of this line besides giving him a new mold.
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>>5598339
We knew this.
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>sharpie in pooper
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Clearly, the intent is for you to buy both versions and have a massive army of red/orange/white robots.
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>>5598358
what even does it turn into? triangle-treaded jeep and children's riding train?
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>>5598353
>not knowing transformers is an american creation
>not knowing transformers was exported to japan
>not knowing basic tf history

Fucking casual
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>>5598358
>That combination of avarice and tiredness in his eyes.

he knows
we all know
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>>5598364
There was a new memo released, if you can unfold a TF into a long, narrow, slightly tapering rectangle, you can call it a spaceship mode.
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Hmmmm... I'm not sure what to think about Alpha-Lion.
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>>5598332
>equally valid take on cpmputron

Its the laziest shit around, how do you explain this logic, its BARELY in toy deco and is lite on retoolings.

And his raging boner is fixated on scrounge and the hand/feet attachements.

In my own personal and (good chance) unpopular opinion, you're either fucking delusional thinking hasbro's snoozefest is better, or somehow the shipping for computron is against you, which is the ONLY valid excuse.

If your excitement comes from 1 retool, 1 mini dude WHO HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH COMPUTRON and little accessories that make your toy do more for your stills, I worry about your choices.

There is just a simply better package in takara's, I'm glad I'm not in tf forums, I'd be fighting with people all day
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>>5598365
Transformers was taken from a Japanese toyline, brought to America, and brought back to Japan shortly after.
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>>5598358
Brawn got fucked over again, how unexpected.
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>>5598364
A hover thing from Star Wars and a He-man vehicle.
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>>5598370
bugh
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>>5598370
Leobreaker repaint when?
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>>5598365
>not knowing the diaclone origins

Get a load of this guy
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>>5598347
>tfw you paint Gunpla on the regular and can just paint Afterburner orange
>PE is probably just gonna go make their hands/feet set in Maroon to go with it.
>don't care about a comics only figure with a joke of an alt-mode/backstory

Literally no reason to not buy the Hasbro one over the Takara one.
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>>5598372
That's Machine Robo a.k.a. Gobots, you stupid ignorant buffoon.
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>>5598366
What do we know?
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>>5598379
>not knowing that diaclones were tf knockoffs before transformers reached japan
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>>5598332
>> using an image and referencing from a show that has "weeb" culture influences
>> some how believing Hasbro's some what half-assed attempt is "equally valid" to Takara-Tomy version
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tiny liokaiser pic
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>>5598383
Desolation and hopelessness
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>>5598387
That looks like a straight skylynx redeco. Shame.
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>>5598387
Whelp time to wait and see what Takara Tomy does. I might just skip it altogether considering the torso guy might be robot-modeless and stuck with a modified quadruped mode.
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>>5598387
Hopefully they fix the torso.
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>>5598384
>[citation needed]

I need evidence to kill takara fags, please help me and I can help you!
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>>5598347
You forgot Strafe.
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>>5598375
I'm starting to think a repaint of Gears would have been better and that's kinda sad.
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>>5598387
Yuck.
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>>5598397
>robot mode is less accurate than takara's
>hasbro's has "robot under a plane syndrome" that the aerialbots do

nope
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>>5598370
>>5598377
Ugh. When was it decided that Alpha Trion's altmode was a lion unicorn?
it seems really stupid to me to give him such an odd altmode just because he has a beard.
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>>5598387
>the hands and feet are hfg's
>another throw in legends character is a gun
>2 brawl tanks with one drill gun
>straight up skylynx gestalt body even with black claws hanging off it

You'd think they'd be smart and do the ankle rocker feet again as an incentive but nope
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>>5598386
I don't mind morons like that, makes it easier for me to get the good version.
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Do you guys think pic related could pass of as a Transformers 2010 figure with the mods applied to it?
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Huh. Seems to be the RiD version.
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>>5598387
>no antiaircraft turrets on Killbison.

Shamefully lazy. If Takara does him I hope they at least remold the turrets and do a six-in-one-combiner (somehow)
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>>5598406
What legends is the gun?
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>>5598408
I don't know, but I do think you want somebody to acknowledge your work.
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>>5598405
It's suppose to be a lion (no doubt thanks to decades of funpub fiction). Frankly the FP one (that was changed to cheetor) is better by a mile.
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>>5598410
I dont like the head, but the mold is pretty decent. And good repaint potential.
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>>5598411
What do you think is more likely, Takara giving us a Jet/Car combining torso or giving everyone Breastmasters?
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>>5598412
That part I'm not sure of, I could, as in 60% sure I COULD be wrong, but the gun there looks strange.

I would love to be proven wrong as I'm trying to work it out
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>>5598410
At least she can fucking stand. May consider the Takara Tomy revision. Also the stupid spot where the sticker is supposed to be, isn't as obvious here.
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>>5598410
>dat sentinel prime
>dat windblade

This is a platinum set isn't it?
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>>5598410
Oh god. Is it possible that Brainstorm will only be an SDCC exclusive?
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some guy bought 40x of the botcon megatron. 'limit 1 per customer'
guess he was able to suck off pete even though pete's a homophobe
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>>5598410
that looks so much better than the pure red one
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So in other words, this yet another underwhelming Botcon reveal yet again?
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>>5598424
BBTS, apparently.
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>>5598413
Well, you aren't wrong. I'm just looking for feedback on what to add/alter on it next.
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>>5598421
The sticker slot is dead center on the chest, it doesn't look obvious because of the pattern design used on it rather than the traditional scan sticker print on it.

I can live with the mold though
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>>5598394
Here's what I know.
Hasbro first made the Transformers toys.
These were based on the Machine Robo popularity. Hasbro saw potential in transforming robots and made their own.
They licensed the designs to European toy companies. From here the Japanese made knockoffs of the toys and marketed it as Diaclone. Hasbro also realized how to sell their toys with a cartoon series.
They wanted to sue Takara at first but realized how partnering with a Japanese toy company could be better in the long run. They settled with Takara and that was how Transformers got legit in Japan.
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>>5598424
Pete's a homophobe?

>>5598428
The new Titan Masters were a cool surprise, and it was nice to see Weirdwolf, Highbrow, and Overlord get confirmed.

But yeah, almost everything else had already been leaked.
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>>5598387
Holy shit, it doen'st use new hand/feet parts, just the regular gun hand/feet parts and doesn't seem to have the special combiner weapons in the box.


And why does he have a Prime Mini-Con?
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>>5598424
Guessing the bbts guy was friends with someone in charge of the stock/paid extra per megatron.

Why didn't someone do something, surly the collective nerd rage would be enough to punch the guy.

...unless this is just speculation or the attendee's are pussier than hoped
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>>5598437
I will admit that Titan's Return looks a lot more promising than Combiner Wars
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>>5598428
Seems like it. didn't they in pass years put more stuff out as the con progresses

>>5598431
Unless you like the gold, for accuracies sake I would add silver paint to the head. Have you collasped the hood panels in all the way?
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>>5598436
At least you're trying with the bait.
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>>5598436
I admire your dedication to shitposting
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>>5598422
3-pack with TR Brainstorm. Is this some IDW thing?
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>>5598445
Yeah, I pulled the head panel up and shaved it down so the hood panels can collapse as much as they can when the head panel is not pulled up.
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>>5598442
Botcon neckbeards are passive-aggressive internet tough guys just like walky. They probably whimpered in line and ranted online.
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>>5598442
It doesnt matter if it was an individual or BBTS, allowing someone to buy all the remaining stock while the con is still fucking going on and early on Saturday morning no less is a HUGE dick move on whomever allowed it. Seriously, thats some shit even tiny cons dont allow.
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>>5598436
>second hand info

I can't work with this, this comes off as bad as being told pokemon green was meant to be what pokemon yellow was but was cancelled.

I'd REALLY request citations and evidence, I honestly believe you, but without evidence I might as well sell ice to an eskimo.

Please, help out an anti takara transformer fan, I'm sick of the japanese influence on robots they have and what they did to g1 arcee in headmasters.

Please, I'm begging you
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>>5598358
I miss the days when Hasbro put effort into their products.
>Joe Kyde is the savior we need.
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>>5598387

Not awful, but I'm getting Takara's.
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>>5598370
He's shit and he stole a spot from Squeezeplay.
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My friend told me Air Razor sold out too.

Also BBTS is supposedly denying the allegations of buying the remaining Megatron stock.
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>>5598406
You expected effort at this point?
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I kind of like the idea of the Movie Platinum set. Those are all good molds. I'd buy that.

But Generations Blurr instead of their brand new movie accurate one from Titans Return? I get it for consistency's sake but meh.
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>>5598423
What kind of retardation leads to this conclusion?
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>>5598487
>I kind of like the idea of the Movie Platinum set. Those are all good molds. I'd buy that.
I'd buy it if I didn't already have the originals.
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>>5598484
But no ankle rocker feet?

Why go one step forwards with betatron and 2 steps back?
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>>5598407
I like your optism anon, I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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>>5598480
>if they post I'll remove them too
No. Put them on display for the world to see. Shame them.
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>>5598462
Transforming robot toys in general are a Japanese creation. The first 'real' transforming robot was Brave Raideen in 1975. Prior to that, Japan had been making transforming toys dating back to the Muramachi period.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kasa-obake

Choke on Obari's dynamic, angular, perspective-defying cock.
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>>5598480
>It ends up being TFSource
>They left to put them up on their site
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>>5598493
I'm not optistic.
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>>5598487
Alot of people missed out on the Generations Blurr, seeing how it was a weird off repaint of another mold. He's going for pretty steep aftermarket prices now too (like $40usd), so anything that lets more people get him is good in my book.
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>>5598500

>> TF Source buys all the stock
>> leaves the con early to avoid the pitchfork and torches

Kek
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So why was TF Source kicked out?
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>>5598494
As an ex forum moderator (got booted off because I was too harsh compared to the others who'd spend time warning people of infractions, yeah I was an asshole) I understand his position.

What if what people saw was something else, we might have some innocent by-stander getting killed over nerd rage only to find out the bbts guy snuck them away before botcon even began.

A moderator HAS to take a neutral stance that protects everyone, site, posters and innocent people, even if what the poster saw was actually what happened it may encourage vigilante's naming and shaming without proper research and innocent people getting hurt in the crossfire, with the site becoming the center of the world's troubles (much like here with /b/)

If they want to blame them do it offsite, otherwise what the mod said is correct IN context of scalpers, don't give them money, and they'll die off.

No, I don't moderate here, rather clean baby vomit than do free work again
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Any confirmation about whether or not Chromedome is a Dead End retool?
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>>5598509
He was saying that if that person who did buy the rest posted about buying the rest then he would remove the post. Obviously don't attack without proof.
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>>5598507
Telling Funpub to stick it up their asses.
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>>5598511
He uses the same transformation, but is a new mold.
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>>5598511
Via a chink facebook group there was a discussion, a guy who went to a con brought it up with a hasbro rep.

I sadly can't remember which one it was, it was ages ago so it'll take too long to find, but here was the gist, APPARENTLY they explored the headmaster gimmick using deadend or something, so he DOES share engineering, but it is infact an all new mold
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>>5598511
The more important question seemed to go unasked. What's the deal with the Back and Forth minicon names?
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>>5598511
It was confirmed months ago that he isn't.
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>>5598509
Shin Gouki?
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>>5598500
Holy shit, that would be brilliant.
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>>5598517
They go back and forth on it.
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>>5598370
Already have a superior lion bot. Head swap for Leo Prime. We didn't need this new crappy mold.
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>>5598527
That mold is not very good either. Tiny too.
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>>5598512
Like I said, netral stance, the mods response was both towards the vigilante for instigating conflict.

But obviously for the scalper braggart, which would be retarded, why would you advertise your presence, a convert "oh hay look at what this guy is selling on ebay lol" with a link would be more effective than "LOOK I BOUGHT 50 OF THESE WHO WANTS ONE!?"

You can't allow people to take up arms, there would be reprocussions, hell even if they nabbed the guy the last thing they want is "website incites nerd murder over toys", you know what click bait sites are like these days and the last thing a fandom OVER TOYS wants is to be associated with is murderers.

>>5598520
Not a moderator of a tf site, some anime fandom site a friend ran that blew up to 400 members and was fairly active.

What's funny is before I became a moderator there is I called the admin (my friend) a dickhead.

He banned me because I found a flaw in his swear filter but re-instated me as mod
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>>5598453
Seibs lists it as a SDCC set.
>SDCC Titan Force set: Windblade, Brainstorm, Sentinel Prime (energised resurrection deco)
Windblade is using her new Prime toy in it too by the looks of it.
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>>5598327

Overlord hype?
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>>5598536
I just hope it doesn't end up having hollow sections that serve no purpose.
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>>5598539
Get ready for disappointment.
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Cool, half a girl robot to add to the growing army.
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>>5598539
Nope, nice and solid.

But it's legends class.
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>>5598536
Blitzwing and megatron.

Blitzwing will have lugnut for his headmaster.
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>>5598536
A shame he'll be a headmaster :(
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>>5598554
Maybe the chest will have storage for little guys.
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>>5598536
If it's not headmaster bullshit then I'll get this

If not then I'll get MMC's.

Now that we already got all the og headmasters confirmed as deluxes I just want this fucking line to end so they stop forcing headmasters into every character.
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>>5598480

Hey at least 2005 doesn't demand money rewards for leaks like say *cough*Seibertron.*cough*
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>>5598560
Enjoy your Headmaster Spinisters and Getaways.
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>>5598545
>citation required
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>>5598571
I think he's talking about the Iron Factory Overlord.
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>>5598571
No citation needed. I was lying. No hollowness, but tiny would be funny.
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>>5598568

Honestly if the Headmaster gimmick is perfected. '

I can live with it.

though it'd be nice if they could design so i don't need to take the heads off.
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>>5598559
I don't see why, I get it because that's where his masters went on the original, but with this one it'd be at the cost of a head.
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>>5598574
>2 legends class merge into one deluxe class

This would be funny
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>>5598579
You'll get 2 heads out of it.
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>>5598577
This. It's not like it's actually affecting the robot.

The only problem is if you don't know how to keep track of your stuff like an adult should.
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>>5598560

Didn't the original have "headmaster bullshit" too? Chest dudes ala Powermaster Prime? Don't be a pussy.
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>>5598579
>at the cost of a head
The head is there. You just don't like how they do it.
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>>5598586
I see three outcomes:

1. they include only one head.

2. he's somehow a double headmaster.

3. you get two seperate headmasters with two seperate head designs.
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>>5598591
powermasters are way cooler from headmasters.

What they should have done with titanmasters is make some of them headmasters, some of them targetmasters, some of them powermasters instead of just making them ALL headmasters.
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>>5598592
No shit?
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>>5598577
If the headmasters could stay on for transformation it would super cool. Especially for characters that are not typically headmaster because then there'd be room for 3rd party replacements. Or it could transform and another character could ride in it.
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>>5598597

Exactly.

I also really want a Headmasters Ratchet.

Numerous head options. G1 Cartoon, Marvel Comic/MTMTE Season 1, Prime/MTMTE Season 3, Movie inspired or no head like the G1 toy.

Hell even a Megatron head to homage Help Us.

Plus there's a Ironhide retool to account for too.

and maybe Energon Tow-Line since I'm a Unicron Trilogy fan.
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Well I'll be saving a lot of money this year.

RiD Ratchet, Bisk, and Liokaiser is pretty much all I want from this so far.

And Overlord I guess whenever he comes out.

I was hoping we'd see that new Rodimus but they're probably sitting on that one for SDCC.
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>>5598603
I wish we could get an Overlord that sexy. Well just be lucky if hes not completely hollow.
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>>5598603
It's hard to take overlord seriously with his Easter color scheme.
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>>5598603
>>5598610
>Thinking they'll even do the IDW designs.

They'll do the toy design, and force IDW to follow it.
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>>5598610
>I wish we could get an Overlord that sexy.

Hasbro will gives us a Wreckers inspired one.

Takara will base it on the anime.

Not sure which I would want.
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Wave 8 is fucking awesome, it only has original Headmasters, and it doesn't look like I'll need to buy Takara figures for these guys.

I wonder when Brainstorms coming out.
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>>5598621
Id buy the Wreckers one if it happens.
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>>5598616
>>5598621
>>5598628

Given they use IDW designs at times, one would hope it's the IDW version.
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>>5598619
>They'll do the toy design

Like how they did Liokaiser or Black Shadow? It's pretty clear they won't follow the japanese designs and they'll do what is popular stateside (which is based on idw wreckers).
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>>5598633
>>5598621
So what are the differences between the two?
Just being Earth/Futuristic vehicles and pouty lips while the other one had more typical sized ones?
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>>5598621

IDW for me.

When I think of Overlord, it's this sadistic asshole.

also I'd love it if Ron Perlman voiced him if they put him in a show or movie. Imagine Slade but more theatrical.
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>>5598636

I was thinking more paint schemes. The anime Overlord is a lot darker in color, like a navy blue-deep purple.

The comic one is more pastel.
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>>5598563
Well, that site was started by a thief and a pedophile.
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>>5598638
>Ron Pearlman Overlord
fuck the hell yes
Also i do really hope we get wreckers Overlord, hes such a dick.
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>>5598642
there is no honest people in our fandom bob.

being a thief and pedo probably is the low bar.
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>>5598633
Jesus Christ that's so fan fictiony. It's amazing that they give out jobs to13 year olds now.
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>>5598642
No one cares about pedophiles here otherwise they wouldnt suck off Sakamoto so hard
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>>5598636
The major difference is the Jet and Tank looking like futuristic vehicles. His colors are also a bit lighter.
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What will Titan Wars Deluxe Wave 3 consist of? Brainstorm, Getaway, and Hot Rod are all possibilities, but it seems like it's 2 decepticons, 2 autobots each deluxe wave.
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>>5598635
Is Lio Kaiser even in the IDW comics? his hasbro toy is more of a cash-in mold reuse than something intended from the start.

Black shadow's IDW design was based on the toy. I know hasbro was doing a few IDW designs before, but that mostly ended when the new design team took over. we get occasional nods now like Minimus, but not as much.
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>>5598648
Who's Sakamoto?
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>>5598646
Its exactly like every other tf bio ever written. It one of the less cringy in fact. Youve not read many have you.
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>>5598652
Night Force Mindwipe and Nemesis Hardhead.
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>>5598652
No idea, that wave is probably coming out next year, so we won't know until SDCC.
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>>5598655
I don't read the comics so no. Not particularly interested in things like "Megatron was originally an Autobot" backstory.
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>>5598654
Shota (underage boy yoai) porn artist that did art for a few issues of IDW.
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>>5598633
It's still a stupid color scheme for someone that is supposed to be so awesome.
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>>5598659
To each their own then.
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>>5598660
It is normal for Japanese to draw porn of minors. Most people in their industry started careers doing so.
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I want an gray Batimus Prime Mindwipe redeco. His headmaster could look like optimus.

And green alligator Megatron redeco of Skullcrusher.
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>>5598668
That doesn't justify it.
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>>5598646

The comics don't just pull random shit out of their ass Anon. It was well established in the series long before Overlord showed up what a Phase Sixer was and what they can do. Sixshot was the first introduced of'em. Overlord didn't pop up until years of stuff had gone into the comic and building up the world.
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>>5598660
Huh. I thought all of the IDW artists were Americans.
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WHY HASNT HASBRO SHOWN A DISPLAY FEATURING WHAT FORTMAX' HEAD LOOKS LIKE ON A DELUXE HEADMASTER BODY?!?!?!?

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>5598659
He mentioned bios, you know,the things that are on transformers packaging?
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>>5598668
Hes still doing it now though including several of masters having sex with their 8 year old male students...that he made for himself and published on his pixiv.
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>>5598672
Why does it need to be justified?
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CLEAR PICTURE TIME.
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>>5598674
Theres only like 2 anericans, the rest are UK, canadian and japanese.
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>>5598680
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>>5598664
>stupid color scheme

A reminder that one of the most feared Decepticons is a giant space T-rex with mouth lasers.
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>>5598678
>several of masters
"Oh, give it to me Pointblank! Give me a hard-head!"
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>>5598685
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>>5598676
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>>5598687
He's black and purple. Overlord is Easter blue and pink.
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>>5598689
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>>5598670
I think a lot of us Beast fans are hoping for that. Their headmasters could be considered pre-BW versions of the characters who have to use master bodies to interact with the autobots and decepticons.

Give us a bone Hasbro, please.
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>>5598653

His component bots are and so is Deathsaurus, and actually are working alongside the DJD, the current main antagonists of one of the books.

They haven't combined though, so it might be a Predacon's situation where the actual team is around but can't actually combine yet because in IDW the combiner teams needed a plot device to actually form up (except Devastator, because he's always the first combiner it seems).
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>>5598689
Alright, that headsculpt looks pretty cool.
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>>5598685
Reminds me of terrorsaur
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>>5598693
>absolutely disgusting.jpg
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>>5598653
>Black shadow's IDW design was based on the toy.

Yes, but the Black Shadow toy by Hasbro isn't based on the Japanese Toy.

Likewise the same for Liokaiser. One is based on a design derived from the cartoon. The other is based on cost saving.

So I'm seeing, the idea they'll do more toy faithful and less IDW-designs is not really true. Not when Headmaster Getaway Chromedome and Rewind are so IDW-ish.
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>>5598689
This nigga looks ripped AF
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>>5598698

This fucking thing is great though. Look at that little noggin.
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>>5598691
THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY ADVERTISING FORTMAX HEAD WORKING ON ANY HEADMASTER BODY BUT HASBRO HASN"T DISPLAYED ANYTHING THAT PROVES IT.
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>>5598698
Can the waist collapse now?
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>>5598693
Since when is Red Alert a Technobot? What did the comics do this time?
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>>5598702
How are you supposed to pull his head out? With Cosmos you had to hook him up by his brow but Scrounge doesn't seem to have that luxury.
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>>5598702
That head looks like it'll be a bitch to pull out.
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>>5598702
It hurts knowing I'll never own that.
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>>5598702
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>>5598688
Pretty much except the boys were crying, i guess thats a thing in japan.
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>>5598702
We still haven't gotten a black repaint with red dress bow.
Why Hasbro?
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>>5598707
That's what your mom said last night.
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>>5598709
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>>5598702
Goddammit I really want this ugly little fucker but I want the Takara version of Computron way more than the Hasbro version. I might actually buy two and display one set in their robot modes...
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>>5598703
Calm down, maybe they meant the headmaster for fortress works on everyone, the fortress maximus head would be far too bit to fit on a deluxe body, and a compatible peg just to fit on a deluxe body would be too small to support the weight safely
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>>5598713
I'm most excited for this guy. Does he have balljointed ankles?
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>>5598713

Thundertron is still a better mold.
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>>5598713
>Robot mode is just standing the wolf on two legs
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>>5598717
Reminds me of AoE Slug.
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>>5598718
Well, he is called Weirdwolf.
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>>5598709

Fuckin' sexy. Insta-buy.
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>>5598715
If it doesn't work, then Hasbro should not be false advertising with this diagram on their packaging.
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>>5598718
BW accuracy then. I'm more sickened by those hollow paws.
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>>5598717
Really like those colors. Mold looks a little too... busy, I guess? I think it's the fur. Is Alpha Trion a lion in the comics? I'm that that familiar with the character.
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>>5598717
Thundertron really isn't that great. He's tiny and has way too much kibble. Can't even keep his pelvic area together.
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>>5598728
Iirc he had two TFCC/botcon toys that gave him altmodes. One was a lion, other was a spaceship.
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>>5598725
Im pretty sure someone can sue Hasbro for that if they can't show that you can plug in Fortress' big head on the lux headmasters.
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>>5598725
Obviously they're just saying heads can be switched around.
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>>5598728
He's not but this is probably foreshadowing
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If you put Strongarm's boobs and a different head one, would the result be some kind of Red Alert?
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Alt mode pics when
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>>5598732
The lion one wasn't even him though, was it? It was supposed to be like. Future Cheetor or something?
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The winner of BotCon.
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>>5598736
Those guns are pretty cool. Hopefully they fixed the shoulders.
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>>5598736
redalert was a legion class sideswipe redeco though
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>>5598717
Its crazy how Transfans can manage to make nostalgia goggles for anything as recent as 4 years ago. Thundertron was an awful, awful figure. Alpha Trion isn't great but even with the concessions made to his lion mode it still looks much better.
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>>5598739
>Memelobster gets a deluxe
Why.
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>>5598739
>the claws move inward too
Cool.
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>>5598739
WHAT IS THIS SHIT
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>>5598744
Guess you wanted Two-Stripes Not One Bumblebee.
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>>5598680
I
>>5598685
Didn't
>>5598689
Ask
>>5598693
For
>>5598698
this
>>5598702
Maybe this

But not this whole set, blarg
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>>5598738
It was suppose to be Alpha Trion before Hasbro vetoed it supposedly at the last minute (probably because of this) and they changed the backstory to Cheetor. But the figure was made to be him.
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>>5598742
This. I was excited for the mold and it's so fucking meh. Its a cool bot design with a horrid lion design. The peg leg meant well, but that means he can only stand in certain positions even with the foot on AND they had the balls to give the other foot a ball jointed ankle.
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>>5598734
>Obviously they're just saying heads can be switched around.

Wrong. You don't put "WORKS WITH" right under Fort Max' giant head with an GIANT arrow pointing to smaller head master bodies underneath if it -doesn't- actually work with them.

There's no wiggle room for this nor is it open to interpretation.
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So when is this gonna get updated?
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Plus Alpha Trion can't even transformer. In g1 he predated the invention of transformation.
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>>5598755
It is though. They're just using his head design as in general. Obviously the heads being placed on aren't his.

I'm trying to figure out why you are so worked up by this. Do you just want to take a silly picture of two of a deluxe with a large head? Is that what has you all enraged inside?
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>>5598758
As soon as you update it. Ain't yo slaves, boy.
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>>5598758
Im pretty sure the ? next to Sounwave will be the Overlord (or whoever it'll end up as) being teased in the silhouettes.
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>>5598759
Then he got a new body.
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>>5598761
B-but anon I'm lazy
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>astrotrain is wave 2

Come on takara, I know you guys won't give us shitinal prime first
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>>5598760
I'd love for someone to do a study of TF fans and find out how many are prone to feelings of extreme rage and dissatisfaction.
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>>5598758
Hi. I'm the guy who made (and has been maintaining) that. It's around 3am here but I'm working on updating the list before I get to bed.
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>>5598759
He can transformer. In one issue he turned into a purple Nolan Batmobile with a flowing cape. About as stupid as a unicorn lion.
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>>5598758
>Darkmoon
>Not Jero or Astroforce
Lame.
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>>5598760

I'm "worked up" by this because it's what their diagram shows. You're stating your interpretation is something obvious when there is no reason for them to specifically use his giant head there if they "obviously" just mean the smaller heads can be swapped.
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>>5598758
>Brainstorm on wave 2

I thought he wasn't in that wave?
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>>5598770
You are the hero /tfg/ doesn't deserve.
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>>5598693
I don't even own Streetwise and I still don't want this.
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>how do you want your nosecone senpai?
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Wave One:
>Titan Master
Siren
Squeezeplay
Horribull
Nightbeat

>Legends
Rewind
Stripes
Wheelie

>Deluxe
Hardhead
Scourge
Blurr
Skullcruncher

>Voyager
Sentinel Prime
Galvatron

>Leader
Blaster
Powermaster Prime

Wave Two:
>Titan Master
Brawn
Grimlock
Flywheels
Apeface

>Legends
Ravage
Rumble
Laserbeak

>Deluxe
Weirdwolf
Mindwipe
Chromedome
Highbrow

>Voyager
Alpha Trion
Astrotrain

>Leader
Soundwave

>Unknown Wave
Deluxe Brainstorm
Overlord (Leader?)

>Titan
Fortress Maximus
Trypticon
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>>5598779
Drilltank and tank drill.
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>>5598779
>people will defend the one on the left
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>>5598774
They used his head as an example of a head in general.

Again you are so worked up over nothing. You just want to take silly pictures and you're upset that you might not get to and you want to pitch a fit and claim false advertising. Holy fuck you need help.
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I kinda get what their going for with these guys but there really isn't a whole lot of variety with this wave
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>>5598784
only a retard will defend the one on the left

Im waiting for the first one to speak up
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>>5598775
That is correct. We didn't know that at the time I made that, though.

All we had was the Brainstorm artwork leak and a vague Weirdwolf rumor. Not even a trace of Highbrow before this week!
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>>5598779
JUST BRAWL MY SHIT UP
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>>5598770
Bless ya anon
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>>5598739
I don't even care about RID but I need a Bisk in my life.
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>>5598779
The takara one looks like dyke airrazor
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>>5598786
Eh. At least it's better than the loyal subjects.
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>>5598788
Yeah, it's pretty funny since Brainstorm was revealed back at Botcon (the SDCC boxset) and we still don't know his wave.
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>>5598771
I'm talking about the g1 cartoon where he was introduced.

The Batmobile is from IDW Spotlight Orion Pax.
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>>5598717
>Thundertron is still a better mold.
Says the dude with no wrist articulation. I'd trade my Thundertron for one of these any day.
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>>5598798
>no wrist articulation.
And a weapon that is only good after you have to take it apart.
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>>5598785
So you're saying and want people to believe they used the giant head of their biggest transformer only as an example "in general", when they have so many other normal-sized heads to choose from?

Nope. You are insane if you truly believe that.
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>>5598793
Eh I wouldn't go that far. Waves 1 and 3 are pretty fun though Wave 2 was kind of a disappoint
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>>5598801
I'm insane? Okay, guy who thinks someone could have a court case against Hasbro over this.

If you can't see what is clearly shown then you need to either take a moment away from the internet or seek help.
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>>5598801
>when they have so many other normal-sized heads to choose from?
It was probably because his head is way more recognizable than the rest of the line.
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>>5598779
Give me the Rook mold with tread arms, I hate the hanging boob treads.
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>>5598802
That's like saying you had fun with POP vinyls. there's really no fun to be had with those loyal subjects.
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>>5598805
>being this worked up over a recognizable example
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>>5598769
>how many are prone to feelings of extreme rage and dissatisfaction.

You don't have to do a study. If you look at obsessive collecting habits, some of it has been likened to various forms of addiction (similar neurotransmitter pathways in the adrenergic and dopaminergic receptor in your brain are involved). So these feelings are pretty typical for the obsessive collectors since they are pretty much equivalent to compulsive gamblers doing it for a neurotransmitter high.
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>>5598800
I really need to get around to making that blade into a usable sword thing, then throw the rest of the lion in the trash. J/k I wouldn't toss it out but it definitely is not what AT memer is claiming it to be.
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>>5598809
>replying to the wrong post
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>>5598779

I'd still get him and use him as a generic.

I'm sure there's a obscure character to repurpose the Hasbro Technobots as.
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>>5598805
>If you can't see what is clearly shown

What's clearly shown is SPECIFICALLY Fortress Maximus' giant head with the words "WORKS WITH" translated in 4 different languages and a giant arrow pointing down to smaller headmaster bodies with their own heads. There are no other symbols in the diagram indicates that this simply means that only the smaller heads can be swapped with each other

You're the one not seeing what is clearly shown and flipping it this way and that with your mental gymnastics that would make a real gymnast green with envy.

Either Hasbro proves what their diagram shows, change it, or be ready for people to take them up for false advertising.
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>>5598817
Hasbro's is canonically Betatron.
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>>5598814
Just take apart the whole thing. The blade has a bit of a handle. It can fit in the little slot when the hands are folded in for like a hook and also a bit of work let's the sword be held like a sword.

I swear the Prime mechtech weapons were a horrible idea especially when it was usually their only weapon. Would have been a million times better if they let the weapons lock in place.
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Dammit, I don't wanna buy a whole Computron set just for Scrounge...

But yay, Weirdwolf. And thats one awesome looking Alpha Trion.
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>>5598821
I'll have to do that. For now he just sits in a box that gets looked at every few weeks out of curiosity peaks.
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>>5598811
I've got a friend who is worked up that the current headmasters don't work with the old headmasters. Why would anyone think they would be compatible with 30 year old figures?
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>>5598819
>There are no other symbols in the diagram indicates that this simply means that only the smaller heads can be swapped with each other
You mean showing the smaller heads being swapped right below?

You have mental issues, kid. You are throwing this much of a fit over wanting to take a few silly pictures when you first get the toy (emphasis on toy to show how ridiculous you are)

You realize how hard the judge will laugh someone out of court for this?

You're not just insane. You're from another mental planet all together.
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>>5598819
What would work as an example head that everyone would recognize?

Answer this and I'll pay for a lawyer
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>>5598702

Hey, wheres his special arm?
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>>5598824
That's how mine was. Then I was able to get a hold of a cybertron galaxy force vector prime. With the alpha trion coming out i felt they would make a good "elder council" display. They all have swords too.
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>>5598779

I actually like the Hasbro deco better, but Takara has the better drill.

I like both the Brawl and Rook molds (despite Brawl's waist problem), but honestly Rook is probably the best new mold in all of CW.
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>>5598843

Oh, and they should've used the Swindle/Hound fists. I love Rook's gunhands, but I just think the Swindle/Hound fists are better for holding stuff.

Well, unless you do like I do anyway.
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>>5598827
>You mean showing the smaller heads being swapped right below?

Heads shown "being swapped", everyone.

If you truly think this image shows anything being swapped in the picture, you're the one who's insane.

>>5598829

Optimus fucking Prime, hell, even Soundwave can work.
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Whats with the Liokaizer they teased?

Those just redecoes or full retools?
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>>5598849
Yeah. Those aren't the size of fort max's head, genius.

>optimus
>Soundwave
But they aren't know for having headmasters. Fort max is. Shocking, huh?
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>>5598849
But they weren't g1 headmasters, people would just assume its retarded to use any old character, look at us.

We're conflicted already at non-headmasters becoming headmasters.

Fortress maximus however not only has a badass head design, a cannon headmaster, but its big and distinctive.

>>5598855
Redecos with the brawl drill gun for one of the tank feet.

Liokaizer is unknown at this point, obvious skylynx recolor gestalt wise but individual vehicle mode isn't known
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>>5598702
could probably recoup some costs from the technobots by reselling that thing
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who gives a shit
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>>5598728
that's what was bothering me, it is really too busy
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>>5598862
The megatron gun is kind of cool, but man I'm so tired of the same figures being used for years.

I loved Joes when they really started in on the articulation in the late 2000s, but it's just meh now.
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>>5598862
>dat g2 megatron legends class

Missed opportunity, they COULD of used the leader class.

And if people are smart they'd have the legion like I do
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>>5598862

Whats that Ratbat from?
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Anyone else worried that the Titan Masters will suffer the same problem that Voyager Brainstorm had?
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>>5598871

Incredibly.

Really hope they use something better than that ball peg Brainstorm had.
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>>5598870
Fucking MP Soundblaster. One last fuck you to the masses.
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>>5598848
Yes but you can slot the drill into his cannon fist, that's worth the price of the figure IMO
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>>5598876

Ugh.

Bit of an odd choice, though. Considering Ratbat was never part of G2 in any capacity.
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>>5598856
>>5598858

>example head that everyone would recognize

Optimus Prime, Soundwave

>aren't know for having headmasters.

Nice shifting of goalposts there. I'm sure people would misunderstand having one of their disembodied heads there as meaning they're anything BUT them being headmasters in this line.

Whichever one of you is the guy who said he'd pony up for a lawyer, I knew you were gonna try to argue out of it when I saw you didn't think your post through.
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>>5598880

Yeah, I'm going to be going Takara for this one. Hasbro's deco overall I think is superior, and I like their Brawlcone, but Takara's just put more effort into theirs overall. Hasbro's flying brickjet is easily the worst thing in the whole CW Deluxe line, honestly, even if I do like the other molds they used.

So Takara's Computron is going to be joining their Menasor and Superion on my shelf, along with my Hasbro Defensor and Bruticus. I'm guessing eventually, so will a Takara Liokaiser.
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they're desecrating the Grand Max pretender mold to make a Megatron shell
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>>5598884
>Nice shifting of goalposts there.
No shifting. Pointing out that your examples were bad which still makes fort max being the most recognizable head to use valid.

You are lost. You have fluid on the brain or a disorder or something.

Please make a valid reason why this bothers you because you have yet to dismiss that you just want it for a few silly pictures.
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>>5598858
>We're conflicted already at non-headmasters becoming headmasters.

The masses dont care about this, only you autists do as if it actually matters. LOL
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>>5598895
>Hasbro advertising something that might not actually work the way it is advertised is not a valid reason for why this bothers me

- (You)

Also it's amazing how you immediately jump to the conclusion that you in any way proved my examples are bad. Yea, I'm sure everyone knows that the giant head there is Fort Max, big -canon- headmaster.

You are a dumbass
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>>5598893
Thought it looked familiar, couldn't place it. Also another Punch, can't wait until the fuck up it's head.
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>>5598871
Not really, I'm sure they got plenty of feedback inbetween his release and the new development. Also looks like they use a totally different connection since there's no release switch/mechanism anymore, so it's probably just a plain insert friction tab thing now. If anything, they could be a little loose but that wouldn't be all that bad I think.
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>>5598779
>Right - Nosecone
>Left - Noooooope-cone
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>>5598906
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>>5598906
But its not false advertisement. It's saying the heads can be switched around and fort max was just used as "this is a head." if they wanted to say it can be used on others don't you think his head would be to size with those 3 bodies below when they're showing that heads can be switched around?
And yes. Optimus and Soundwave are bad examples and you have at least 2 people telling you this.

Again. All this for silly pictures.
>>
Is that crocodile bot being shown off here? Skullsmasher or something? I'm pretty much only in to beast bots so I haven't been keeping up with TF that much lately, but that guy looked cool.
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>>5598436
What you know is wrong. Transformers in Hasbro importing Diaclone and a bunch of other lines to the US and creating a story for them. Takara brought the same concept back to their side, selling the same toys with now different names.
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>>5598858
>>5598897

I'll never get this line of thinking. Everyone who's a head/target/powermaster was a transformer who was turned into one in the show's own canon. Why would you balk at other transformers undergoing the same change?
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>>5598921

Theres been four new beast bots: a crocodile, a wolf, a bat, and a lion.
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>>5598641
The comic one is only pastel because the artist on those books loved washing out the colors for some stupid reason.
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>>5598920
>when they're showing that heads can be switched around
You have never proven that the image shows anything about heads being switched or swapped, while I have shwon twice already that it is exactly the opposite, so stop stating this as if it's fact

Also, check pic mister "crazy man"

You just got REKT

I'm done with your contrarian mental gymnastics ass.
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So.. what bodies would look better for the second wave titanmasters?
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>>5598638
>>5598644
The writer already said he envisions his voice to be like Tim Curry.
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>>5598929
I heard it was because his monitor was properly calibrated but the editor liked the style of the washed out colors and kept them. I'm sure /co/ would know.
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>>5598931
I think it's more symbolic, not to be taken literally.
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>>5598926

Ask the idiot like >>5598858 . They're the ones saying people will be "confused" that Soundwave and Optimus are suddenly Headmasters when kids and their parents don't care about this shit at all.

In fact they'll recognize Optimus more than any other headmaster in this line.
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>>5598731
>Voayger size
>too tiny

wut
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>>5598931
It's showing heads can be used on those 3 bodies. Heads in general.

It doesn't show Fort max's head. Because if it did, you have trouble grasping so I'll make this plain, the image would not show the heads being that size in comparison.

You haven't made any valid points. These "points" you are trying to make would get you laughed out of court and then by the public.

Again. You are not mentally well if you're this upset because you want to take pictures.
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>>5598882

They're homaging Marvel G1.

>>5598933

Actually it's John Simms, but me I don't watch Doctor Who and even before I started reading, I thought Ron Perlman would be a good fit.
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I wonder who that is on weirdwolfs package art.
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>>5598953
Ron Pearlman is too much of a neanderthal musclehead in his voice to pull off a smart, sadistic guy like Overlord.
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>>5598944
Here he is next to 2 other voyager class figures. He's tiny.
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>>5598926
I'd be fine if scourge was a wielder of a target master, that's cannon.

But his target master getting turned into a head master for him, that ain't cannon, and in some cases like CW cyclonus that isn't explained, and even conflicts in some cases (galvatron dislikes combining/beast etc yet he's become not only a combiner in cylonus, but a headmaster) with nothing to back it up in fiction.

>Least for UW grand galvatron he was given backstory
>sad thing is in order to make it work they dragged people from other universes, from idw to armada, just because of how absurd it was

Granted, they're toys with a universal play pattern gimmick and I'm an old autistic fuck who prefers g1 styles, which is why I'm simply ignoring the whole head gimmick.

Which is why legends blurr works for me as a consequence.

>>5598953
>Marvel G1
But the megatron was g2 megatron, I don't get this, why have a g1 with a g2...wait this ties in with the joes right?

After reading the comics they can almost have star saber team up with optimus primal, fucking bizarre shit
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>>5598950

LOL
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>>5598943
They'll recognize optimus as optimus. Not as a headmaster like fort max.
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>>5598960
g2 megatron first appeared in the gi joe comic when cobra upgraded him.
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>>5598958
To be fair, you picked two of the largest Voyager figures out there.
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>>5598957
Ah. Never heard him as Slade/Deathstroke huh?
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>>5598958
Vector Prime is a pretty goddamn big Voyager honestly. And that Shockwave has two robot modes, kind of cheating to pick the one that's longer. It's like using Lockdown as an example for Deluxes.
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>>5598858
>We're conflicted already at non-headmasters becoming headmasters.

Speak for yourself. I think it's cool.
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>>5598966
I just grabbed 2 voyagers.
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>>5598967
I guess not. I see him, I think Drive, Hellboy, Sons of Anarchy.
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>>5598955

You mean this one?

This is the back of the box for Astrotrain.
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>>5598950
But they already showed that all the heads fit in all the bodies, leader class bodies have helmets or mask attached to compensate the scale/proportions, for Fortress you have to put the head on Cerebros first, any head will fit, why is it too hard to understand?
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>>5598962
But what you are saying is that they are specifically saying fort max can work across them all because they used his head for the recognizable headmaster. I never denied that they couldn't. I'm saying you're stupid for thinking this requires a court case because you want to take silly pictures.
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>>5598978
I never said they couldn't. I'm saying homeboy is insane.
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>>5598973
Yeah watch some clips. He's great as a cold and calculating villain.
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>>5598962
Technically, fortress is the titan master of fortress maximus.

The fortress maximus head is actually a vehicle that combines into a city to make a bigger robot.

>titan master>fortress>giant head mode>fortress maximus

Therefore, the fort max head isn't a titan master
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>>5598933
>Tim Curry

Sad as shit he had that stroke that fucked him up so bad. He had a magnificent voice.
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>>5598962


>>5598981 <- BTFO
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>>5598962
Titan master, in this line, is a size class.
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>>5598758
>>5598770
Here's the updated list, everyone.

>>5598776
I do it for Martha.
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>>5598672
You never need to justify The Dick.
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>>5598994

WORKS ACROSS -ALL- FIGURE -SCALES-
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>>5598974
No, the art of the head going on to the body.
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So, what's the big, autstic argument here? That the promotional picture says Titan Masters work across all figure scales? Is some anone thinking he can put Cerebros on Chromedome's body or something? I'm pretty sure Cerebros isn't a Titanmaster, it's Spike or whatever they're calling the smallest one.
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>>5599000
And Fort max's head isn't a titan master. Get some help :)
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>>5599005
He's Emissary now
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>>5599008
Better if you get some Ice for that burn on your butt.

Ahahahahahaha retard
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>>5599014
Oh so now it's just denial. You're adorable in a retarded duck kind of way.
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Titanmasters are the smallest head guys. All Titanmasters work across all scales. Cerebros is not a Titanmaster, Emissay is the Titanmaster.

I don't understand the issue here.
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>>5598997
Thanks Anon

>Martha
WHERE DID YOU HEAR THAT NAME
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>>5598693
Glad I pre-ordered the Takara version
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>>5598698
Decepticon head on an Autobot's body. Good job Habro.
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>>5599017
>Oh so now it's just denial

DENIAL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>5598862
I dunno, redhead and boob scientist sound okay.
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>>5598774
If you look at the tiny Fort Max head above each individual robot you will see that it is clearly in scale to each size class. That means that Fort Max's head master can actually mass shift for real!
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>>5599031
This guy isn't a Titanmaster, so that image is still accurate.
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>>5599031
THIS is the Titanmaster for Fortress Maximus.
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>>5598997
You might want to update Brainstorm since he has been revealed.
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>>5599047
So fucking lame.
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>>5599047

Boy, glad I got the Thrilling 30 version.
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>>5599055
It's great but it's also way too big. Glad they're doing him again to go with the others.
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>>5599047
Isn't that just a color-shooped version of the leaked grey pic? I'm waiting for the official reveal and product shots before adding him in.

Mostly to satisfy my autism, but also for the sake of consistency.
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>>5599060
Him being a retool of blurr is ridiculous, it should be the other way around.
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>>5599081
They were both planned from the same mold, there's no "he came first and the second toy is the remold" so much these days.

>>5599080
He's at the convention.
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>>5599088
It's quite obvious blurr was designed first and then brainstorm after him.
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>>5599088
That's the SDCC version, with IDW colors. The leaked artwork (presumably for the single release) has a different color layout.
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>>5599097
>>5599081
TFs nowadays are designed with both toolings in mind, ie. Motormaster/Optimus, or Rook/Swindle.

There really is no "being designed first" at this point.
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>>5599102
Oh, damn. I like that SDCC version :(

I thought you were questioning whether toy toy was happening at all.
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>>5599107
Okay, well it's obvious that the designers put more emphasis on the Blurr aspects than the Brainstorm ones, and that's terrible.
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>>5599116
I think they work perfectly for each. What Blurr aspects are you seeing on Brainstorm?
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>>5599116
Perhaps they did optimize the mold for Blurr, but the retooling they made for Brainstorm works; it's a fine update to the G1 toy design.

Perhaps you're more of a fan of his IDW design, and that's fine too. That Voyager Brainstorm looks real sharp. It doesn't invalidate the look they gave him for Titans Return, however.
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i kinda want to see these posted on the wiki if that can pissed walky off
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>>5599131
?
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>>5598739
Fucking sold.
>>
TAKARA
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>>5598779
Hot damn Takara made a sexy drill tank.

Can I just but TakaraCone?
>>
WINS
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>>5599162
EVERY
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>>5599164
SINGLE
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>>5599080
oh sorry didn't realize that. apologizes then
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>>5599165
TIME
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So when is Titans Return Wave 1 hitting the stores and what prices could we expect?
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>>5599169
JUST
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>>5599169
This shows Rook could have worked as a Brawl retool. Wonder what motivated them to make a shitty original mold for Brawl instead.
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>>5599162
>>5599164
>>5599165
>>5599169
>>5599177
Where's the pic of Hasbro Scrounge with Takara Scrounge?
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>>5599184
Scrounge isn't a Technobot.
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>>5599185
>didn't get the joke

inb4 "jokes are supposed to be funny"
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>>5599184
I bet Takara is gonna do an even better Scrounge for their Legends line just to completely blow Hasbro the fuck out.
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>>5599191
They are though.
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>>5599196
I don't think people in Japan care about such an obscure character. This would be the equivalent of Chromedome's pals from Headmasters who got murdered by Sixshot. And it's not like he was in the current comics like Drift/Dreadrock or Ratbat.
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>>5599191
>m-muh scrounge

so this is all that hasbrofags have left to cling on to after their computron got btfo huh?
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>>5599206
You forget that Japan got Drift before they had that comic, and Straxxus/Darkmount when they never had that comic.
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>>5599210
Not a Hasbrofag just a guy with enough money to buy both
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>>5599196
As much as I agree that Takara continues to do a great job catering to the collector market, I don't think they'll be releasing their own Legends Scrounge.

Takara hasn't done redecos or retools for any of the Generations Legends. No Cliffjumper, no Gears, and not even the two other Seekers! Given that, they most likely will not be doing any retools or redecoes for the Cosmos mold.
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>>5598814
I'm the same but because I can't decide whether or not to give him a handheld weapon or just adapt the sword to be put over the wrist like FE Optimus' sword.
Also, the knees on mine are garbage and I have to fix them.
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>>5599177
>HasTak can afford retooling Strafe twice
>can't retool Streetwise/Dead End
why tho?
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>>5599258
Why would they need to? Wheeljack makes a better Lightspeed.
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>>5599271
But not a good toy.
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>>5599283
This is true.
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>>5599271
>>5599283
>>5599287
Am I the only one who likes CW Breakdown?
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>>5599301
Probably, faggot.
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>>5599301
Do you like Classics Starscream too?
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>>5599312
There was nothing visually wrong with Starscream though, unlike this shit mold. It just didn't have a dynamic range of articulation.
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>>5599315
I like my toys to, you know, do toy things like being poseable.
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>>5599301
I tolerate him.
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>>5599317
Starscream is poseable. He's just not dynamically poseable.
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>>5599327
What's the point if he can't pose without looking like shit?
Try it. Try posing yours so it doesn't look like a retard or consumer goods lined for sale, I'll wait.
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>>5599333
>any pose that's not dynamic is shit

Sorry, not playing your game.
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>>5599360
That wasn't my point.
Any pose you can put it in will look bad, not just the dynamic ones. Even the default arms-to-the-side pose looks bad.
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Did CW Computron get a price?

>>5598387
And damn I REALLY want to support a Liokaiser, but that (torso especially) is garbage, will wait to see what Takara does
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>>5598685
Lol
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>>5598382


Hasbro Made G.I.Joe, then Takara took it and made it into Henshin Cyborg, and then Microman and Diaclone was inspired/spun off from that. Hasbro Reps trying to find the new thing to sell as the 80's was just starting, saw Diaclone and other Japanese Robots and got the rights to them to distribute in America and package it as a cartoon to sell it.

Takara which made Diaclone then re-imported Transformers a year later.

Machine Robo was Bandai's attempt to compete with Takara';s Diaclone, but making the toys smaller to fit Matchbox/Hot wheels scale and thus their tracks and playsets

Tonka Finding out that Hasbro was gearing up "Transformers" Rushed to import Machine Robo and brand it as "Go-Bots" by with Hanna Babara's help (so by a technicality they got Gobots out first before Transformers )
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