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>taufags

>>55383495
no need to roll for leadership when ordering anymore

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>>55383509
>Being this assblasted he got beaten by superior Tau firepower

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>>55383509
How's the hand Dorn?

Should I try to get Citadel paints or will any old acrylic paints do?

>>55383532
last time I played a tau player he did every scumbag thing he could to secure a win...against my brand new army that I barely knew.

tau players are almost as a rule turbo faggots.

>ywn be as cool as the guy in the OP image

>>55383543
Get Vallejo

>>55383495
Didn't know Kevin Owens was a 40k fan.

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Gun casings dark red or black?

Flail of Corruption : Make d3 hit rolls each time you attack with this weapon.

Death to the False Emperor : Each time you roll a hit roll of 6+ for a model with this ability (vs imperium), immediately make an extra attack against the same unit using the same weapon.

So if I roll 3 attacks for the flail and 2 of them are 6s to hit... do I get 2d3 more attacks? or just 2? Seems insane but it'd definitely one way to read it and I haven't seen it in the faq but I might have just missed it.

>>55383546
I can concur, the only tau player at my LGS was the least liked person there even when he wasn't playing Tau, when someone else actually picked up Tau and then dropped them right before the end of 7th because they said they felt like an asshole playing them

>>55383559
why? now I have to figure out the equivalent colurs and they're only slightly cheaper

>>55383573
just paint the fucking model already. this time you've spent shopping and posting about it you could have used to paint it, strip it and repaint it if you were unsatisfied

NOBODY CARES

>>55383580
The problem with Tau is that the model line sucks. Fire warriors are some of my favorite sculpts in the game. Very cool, westernized, safe Alien aesthetic. Lots of smooth edges and just overall dope look.
And crisis suits are pretty cool too. And then things turn up to 11 and nosedive. So the only people that play Tau are either hyper weeaboo or WaaC
Captcha: magnus stop

>>55383543
citadel paints are generally higher quality, and it's easier to get actual paint colours since 40k is almost completely standardized with citadel colours.

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>>55383590

Just asking for the ones that dont mind giving advice.

This is a long term project, I dont want to waste time painting something I'll have to strip in some time. It's just a general idea and a reference so I can send it to a comission painter

I think I'm doing something wrong mixing all this red and purple

>>55383601
How have all the infantry Tau players not eaten a bullet after realizing GW doesn't care about them?

>>55383576
2D3.
Yeah, it can get insane.
You need to be lucky though.

>>55383617
the same reason there are people who voluntarily choose to play non-cadian IG or sisters

We're a combination of pathetically masochistic and in denial that we'll NEVER EVER get support

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>>55383633
The dubs speak truth, but it's a hard truth
I'd kill my wife's first son for a new guard infantry box

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>>55383609
Yeah, your scheme is a little wonky. You've got the bottom right color scheme but the shade of each color is wrong so it's coming across as garish instead of cohesive.

>>55383588
Dropper bottles.

>>55383621
Given. The example actually happened in my last game, but amounted to rolling 3 6s on 4 dice so it's not likely going to happen again any time soon. I relented to his opinion that it was only 2 bonus attacks, but mostly just because 2 guys with flails basically ate his whole unit of conscripts anyway.

Thanks for the input.

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Whats up with the height of this dude from the legion command set? I'm gonna use him as a company champion, buts he's like a head taller than his captain. (Its that older space marine commander set) the guy is almost as tall as primaris marines.

>>55383643
>pick up cadian models secondhand, been wanting to play steel legion for a year because I love artillery and black and yellow schemes, and grey and beige is a good contrast
>figure "I'll just paint my cadians as steel legionnaires, then deal with finecast conversion kits for veterans/commanders
>the entire line is still, and will always be metal

It hurts.

>>55383588
Cheaper, higher pigmentation and won't dry out as quickly. In sum, you get more bang for your buck.
GW washes are better, though.

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>>55383509
>>55383532
>>55383546
>>55383580
>>55383601

>>55383670

That's Sigismund, before GW realized they could cash in big money making a stand alone worse model of the character

>>55383670
He's standing up straight, the marinlett next to him is crouching slightly

Is there any chance the official GW online store would send me the anniversary limited edition primaris captain? the closest gw store i have is 5 hours away from here. by plane.

>>55383648
>>55383609
Warhammer schemes are best based on a L instead of the pyramid, square or direct complimentary of traditional colour theory, those are meant for posters and billboards

>>55383686
That makes since then, cause i though that the resin was on par with their character series, unlike the usual crap you have to fuck with for an hour.

>>55383685
If you're gonna be here a lot you're gonna have to get use to people shitposting in favor or against Tau

>>55383702
You can always mail them and explain your desire to give them money for goods.

>>55383666
Trips witnessed and appreciated.
Personally, I love the idea of a unit of Arco-Flagellants getting War Hymn'd by a Priest. 3D3 attacks each, min unit size 3... imagine the possibilities provided you make the charge

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>>55383546
>>55383580
>>55383601

Where did the Riptides touch you guys?

>>55383576
Holy hell. You're right. It works like that, at least until they FAQ it to say "make an additional hit roll against the same unit using the same weapon". I mean, I'm still certain the Flail will be 1-in-5 on the Terminators, but even so that weapon is an absolute steal for ten points.

>>55383735
>posting an actually painted riptide
>shityouneverseeonthetabletop.png

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>>55383735

>>55383769
You know they are just salty over 7th Tau.

>>55383617
>Pathfinders can now split shoot so their specialists are actually worth a damn not to mention the drone synergy
>Fireblades being what they are, awesome
>Terrain pieces giving cover while allowing movement AND dealing mortal wounds to attacker (scaling with the horde meta)
Infantry Tau are fine m8

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Quick post dudes and discuss what you are working on and hold the autistic lore discussions at bay! Speed painted Iyanden in pic related.

Which armies do you wish you could play against more? I've never actually got a chance to play against Guard, Eldar or their Dark cousins, and I wish I could play more Nids since it's always a good fight.

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>>55383822
Been worning on my space marines side project. Got burnt out painting cultist.

>>55383721
trip 6s on a post about rolling 3 6s...

*xfiles theme*

>>55383543
Citadels are bretty good. Vallejo game are awesome, bc they are slightly thinner, and, come in eye dropper bottles.

P3 are some of the best, but, are thick and need to be watered down to the consistency of 2% milk

You applying with brush, or airbrush?

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>>55383735
Had a big post typed out explaining to you why people dislike Tau for reasons different than that they lost to them once, but in reality I know all you want is a reply so here you go

>>55383666
What else did you expect from your dice, Satan?

In all honesty, I'd just interpret the 6's to produce 1 additional attack rather than to roll an additional "attack". But hey, I don't know shit.

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>>55383822
currently working on my ork army, taking a while to paint because I put autistic amounts of time into each miniature

>>55383782
I was salty over 7th necrons, not tau.

I didn't really have issues with tau until 8e and I started seeing more tau players.

>>55383861
>posting anime on /tg/
>but it's best girl
I'll let you off with a pass anon... this time

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>>55383532
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>>55383685
>>55383735
They're here, spring the trap!

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How likely would it be to come across loot from the Horus Heresy as an active Chaos Space Marine?

Would it be a weekly discovery? Yearly? Are their random renegades that just happen to find caches of old armour and guns?

>>55383861
Is it the "they are effectively playing a different game and work by taking away from other armies" pasta?

>>55383871
they look great. don't stop autising on them, it's worth every second.

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>>55383871
>bunch ov poncy badmoon richboyz who dunno nuffin bout goin fast an smashin
10/10 would crash a trukk into and chop up
Which colours did you use for your skin tone lad?

>>55383900
>Finally get one of these fuckers to drop
>Sunbreakers
Fuck this gay earth. Also to answer your question, warp fuckery allows damn near anything to be possible in 40k so its well within the realm of plausibility for warbands to encounter their legion counterparts at regular intervals

>>55383900
Well the great crusade and Heresy were both super wide spread, but it was also 10,000 years ago, a time span fans and GW have a hard time understanding, we still find arrowheads and pottery from that long ago but it's not an every day thing, a crate of bolters or plasma guns would have rusted away to nothing unless it was kept in a sealed environment
So I'd say hunting for heresy era supplies would be like an archeological expedition, some nerd from the thousand sons has discovered records of a battle on this planet, or maybe some imperial fists fortress long lost to time, so you and your group head out to see if anything still of worth survived
So while I'd say they wouldn't be impossible to find you'd need to do actual work and not just hope to stumble on them if you want any consistency

>>55383965
got a chuckle from me.

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>>55383965
2/10 shitpost digga
Drink an Astra and try again

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>>55383965

Reminder that undivided princes exist in AoS, and that both Pert and Lorgar (the later specifically even in the latest codex) were said to have been elevated by all the gods.

>>55384007
keep shitpost arguments contained to 1 thread, autist, don't spill over arguments.

>>55384007
Yeah we all know that, there's only one faggot who loves to scream about it for the attention
What is frustrating is I can't make an undivided prince for some sort of bonus like in 3.5

>>55383938
death world forest, athonian camoshade, beaten up w/ death world again before layering with elysian green, highlight with ogryn camo
Glazes of thunderhawk blue and various reds for the eyes/lips respectively
>red armor
sure, yer fast and all, but none o' dat will 'help if yer krumlin' sum pry- mary's oomies.
like me warboss always said: you gotta be blasty... to be right nasty

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>>55383871
>>55383938

I've 'ad 'nuff 'uf ya GREEN BOYZ... 'Av sum Red onez!

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>>55384012
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class at Abbey Community College, and I’ve been involved in numerous competitive 40k games, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in the art of keyboard warfare and I’m the top troll in the entire Black Library stable. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. Then I'll write you in as some shitty stock character that gets his head blown off by Abbadon the Despoiler, while getting butt-fucked by some lesser demon. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting network Administrators at 4-Chan, and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can write about killing you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands, and, a pencil. Not only am I extensively versed in Chaos Lore, but I have access to the entire library of Games Workshop Black Library and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable faction of choice off the face of the this earth, you priviledged CYS male. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

>>55383965
/pol/ leave

we dont want you here

>>55384027
>Red Orkz

How's the eye treating ya, Tuska?

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>>55383746

>>55383965
hohoho

>>55384037
>>55384054
he even looks like a faggot. Is this your typical chaos babby?

Any news on the Dank Angles?

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>>55384049
What army you playin goi?

>>55384027
>red boyz
that's a krumping

>>55384057
>cherrypicking

>>55384064
orks, space wolves and eldar

get out

>>55384061
nope, I hope HH Angelus is out before Christmas

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>>55384073

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>>55384027
I told ya about the chaos wells! I WARNED YOU YA GIT!

>>55383717
I might just do that. I've been interchanging currency for material goods with them for quite some time, surely they would care.

post em:
>favourite marine faction
>favourite space marine faction
>favourite 'imperium' faction
>favourite xenos faction
>current army(ies)

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>>55384072
It's the only known example of painted riptides I know of.

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>>55383948
>Doing a Nightfall for the first time
>Drops the Last Word
>Every Exotic drop from then on is just disappointing

I feel your pain somewhat. Also that would be a cool premise for a novel.

>"Who are you?", one Black Legionnaire shouts, pointing his boltgun at the armoured foes
>"We're the Luna Wolves, sons to the Warmaster Hor-"
>*Abaddon reee's in the distance*

>>55383958
>So I'd say hunting for heresy era supplies would be like an archeological expedition, some nerd from the thousand sons has discovered records of a battle on this planet, or maybe some imperial fists fortress long lost to time, so you and your group head out to see if anything still of worth survived
Neat. Thanks for the help guys. Trying to decide whether I do a Renegade chapter that's stumbled upon some Heresy era gear or a Traitor Legion warband that's chosen to keep their gear in top shape.

>>55384086
>dark angels
>dark angels
>admech
>orks
>orks

>>55384086
>salamanders
>thousand sons
>Armageddon Steel Legion
>Dark Eldar
>Dark Eldar, Imperial Guard, Thousand Sons

>>55384050

Gud; Con'sid'rin I can't see.

Mah boyz muv fasta since their red!

WAAAAAAAGH

*As and aside they are red do to...(TLDW)*
Planet infested with Orks gets devestated with few spores remaining, after a few weeks of the humans leaving, Bloodletters and other deamons of Khorne start coming because 'Muh Blood n' Skulls" and after the last remaining Orks died and Bloodletter's blood splilled on their spores these new red orks came out. They are more akin to fighting hand to hand then with guns (hence I only use Slugga/Choppa and my Meganobs use dual Killsaws)

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>>55384086
>imperial fists
>imperial fists
>imperial fists
>deldar
>those + some tau and HH custodes

>>55384083

Read this; good guess too btw!

>>55384105

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>>55384027
Your boyz look like they've been having a few drinks lately.

>>55384090
Warp is magic realm, so whole worlds are swallowed up, then spit out, thousands of years later, pristine as the day they went missing. It allows you a lot of leeway in terms of campaign ideas.

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>>55384075
HAHAHA

Good one

Man, this hobby sure is a good way to turn yourself into a bitter, pessimistic asshole.

>>55384090
If you do a warband who kept their shit in repair thy need to be a legion that didn't flee to the eye like night lords or alpha legion, the warp is naturally corrupting and degrading

>>55384086
fuck me, I meant to say
>favourite marine faction
>favourite CHAOS space marine faction
>favourite 'imperium' faction
>favourite xenos faction
>current army(ies)

>>55384118

For mine; more like had a drink spilled on them. But non te less baptized in Khorne Blood!

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>>55384086
>Chaos
>Black Legion (I'm sorry, don't hurt me)
>Sisters of Battle
>Tyranids
>A bunch of unpainted cultists. I'm just starting

>>55384086
>marine
>space marine
What the fuck is the difference?

>>55384129
>>55384098
replace my 2nd dark angels with word bearers then

>>55384086
Iron hands.
Iron hands.
Admech.
Haemonculus covens.
Admech.

>>55384027
F A S T
A
S
T

>>55384088
So, when he plays that model, does he try to argue true line of sight, or, admonishes everyone can see it?

>>55384124
IRON WITHIN MY BITTER-BROTHER

>>55384090
The Last Word was really something else so its easy to understand the disappointment, hopefully it makes a return (along side the mythoclast). The thought of an autistic warband who must maintain their gear at peak efficiency is pretty cool, invading/heisting forgeworlds and stuff

>>55384132
>black legion
it's okay anon, you aren't personally responsible for the legion's FAILURES

>>55384124
It's the website in general really. I had to leave /v/ entirely before I could enjoy games again. Those faggots will find a reason to hate anything.

>>55384129
>1. Blood Angles
>2. Alpha Legion
>3. Astra Militarum
>4. Craftworld/Harlequin (on a par)
>3 and 4

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>>55384027
>ork the far left has a cross hair on his fucking choppa
Fucking hell im dying, also I'm stealing that idea.

>>55384129
>Storm Wardens
>World Eaters
>Deathwatch
>Necrons
>CSM/khorne daemonkin

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>>55383822
Been trying to find the willpower to paint these six chosen.
I was looking at it for so long I went through all my bits to see if I could add something to them to inspire me.

Turns out I had some old command squad legs and this missile launcher, a chaos rhino torso and a spare head so I made an extra missile launcher guy out of them.
Who I also have no willpower to paint.

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Friendly advice to guardfags that the weapons team box comes with bits to make a heavy weapon and a mortar if you buy extra 60 mm bases online for dirt cheap and sprinkle in a few extra bits
You can also proxy one as the other, so if you buy two boxes you have enough to fill a spearhead of mortars or give each infantry squad you have a lascanon weapons team if you're not an asshole

>>55383929
different guy, but I haven't played against them in 8th, as all the tau players I know dropped them as soon as the rules leaks for 8th came out.

in 7th they were just really frustrating and unfun to play against. they weren't unbeatable, though they were always difficult regardless of the skill of the player, and they generally just turned every game into a tedious slog which, even if I won was still unsatisfying.

>>55384129
Fire Hawks
Thousand Sons
Jokaero
Jokaero
None.

>>55384127
Ah okay, I'll have to do some research to see which ones did and didn't flee then. From what I remember though I thought all of them fled to the Eye because EC were trying to steal their slaves or some shit.

>>55384162
Mythoclast was a cool idea, I'm sad it got abused in PvP then subsequently nerfed into the ground and left to rot for most of the game though. Honestly though, the most exciting drop I got other than Last Word was the No Land Beyond, purely cause being able to dash around and dome people in Trials of Osiris was hilarious.

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>>55384086

>favourite marine faction
Salamanders
>favourite space marine faction
Alpha legion
>favourite 'imperium' faction
Imperial Guard
>favourite xenos faction
Tyranids
>current army(ies)
Imperial Guard & Sororitas

>>55383848
That is a sizeable side project

>>55384129
Dark Angels
Thousand Sons
Inquisition
Tyranids
Thousand Sons

>>55383495
so what do people think about the primaris now that everything has been released?

i think the models look nice but they look really strange next to regular marines so i would only ever use them in a 100% primaris army.

which is kinda shit

>>55384256
I wish they would be more competitive. I'm hoping Chapter Approved drops their points cost big time.

>faced a stormsurge and battalion at 50PL

was that a That Guy move

>>55384280
>PL
found the problemo, friendo

>>55383565
Samoa Joe is. He's quoted Gaunt's Ghosts on Twitter before.

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>>55384300

>>55384019
Ironically, you CAN in AoS. Indeed, unmarked princes are arguably better.

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>>55384280
There is only one answer to the Tau menace, my enfleshed brethren.

[spoilers]The fact that they basically always get +2 to hit on Doctrinas makes my autoanguine regulators moist.[/spoiler]

>>55384049

>Everything I don't like is /pol/

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>>55384333

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>plan a game with friend
>get to play my new army finally and excited
>ten minutes before I leave
>"hey sorry man stuff came up I gotta cancel"
>the bluest balls
Why does the real world have to trump playing with plastic toys?

>>55384220
>Jokaero
>Jokaero
Now I've got the My Neighbour Totoro theme stuck in my head. Thanks a lot, anon.

>>55384326
God yes. Out shooting Tau has been satisfying as fuck to me ever since Warcon days.

>>55384129
Raven Guard
Alpha Legion
Custodes
Tied between Orks and Tyranids
Raven Guard, Alpha Legion, Nids

>>55384341
The plastic toys would never cancel on you.

>>55384333
totally man

everyone makes "jokes" about muslims in germany man

not just /pol/ and when they infest other boards

>>55384341
>not hanging out at the LGS ready to play anyone who walks through the door

>>55384129
Imperial Fists
Word Bearers
... The Emperor's Greenest
Orks
Daemons

>>55384086
>>55384129
Iron Hands
Thousand Sons
Adeptus Mechanicus
Tau
T'au Empire, Sa'cea Sept.

>>55384057
7e tournament win list ?

>>55384437
>I can't read
Ok.

>>55383965
Funny enough for shitposting

>>55384437

>>>get tackled by large burly muslim men in uniform who handcuff me

Remember rules saying you need to deploy at least 50% of your units on the battlefield but can't remember where. Anyone know which page?

>>55384391
Funny enough I made a post on the Facebook page and I'm headed there anyways to paint until someone shows
Great minds think alike anon, well knowing this site it may be we both have poor minds

>>55383871
>>55383938
>>55384027

Looking great anon(s)

>>55384463
At the beginning of the matched play section.

>>55384326
When the icarus array fires, does it literally fire all of its weapon profiles or is it a typo and they meant to say fire using one of the profiles?

>>55383576
I swear you people act like cheese junkies, It gives you extra attack, ONE dice.
Its been played like this in many many other ocasions like Jinn blade, old chaos demon swords ect. Stop being turbo faggot.

>>55384192
He's my favorite! I love it so much; I actually got him like that (all my boyz are used!)

>>55384470
doing the same "joke" over and over and over and over and over and over and over again isnt banter

its autism

>>55384480
'You can fire all three' would be a pretty enormous typo for 'Choose one'

>>55384470
Dude, banter all you want, I'm just giving you shit for being illiterate.

>>55384500
i`ve seen worse typos

>>55384477
Cheers

>>55384495
Just where do you think you are?

>>55384512
he is right though

>>55384487
>one attack
>for each attack
Ehh, reddit nerd with the book confirmed 1 in 5 anyways.

>>55383965
but muslim countries deny the holocaust, doesn't make sense

>>55384533
i never said i wasnt retarded

>>55384049
This is actually pretty okay.
In this instance you are the faggot shitting up the thread anon.

>>55383621
Prescience lets DTTFE proc on 5+, just need an Not!Death Guard to cast it.

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>>55383822
Me nobs, doing boys now

>>55384534
German Muslims, not Muslims in Muslim countries. Different stereotypes apply.

>>55383965
Is this going to become a threadly pasta now?

>>55384547
>3D3 attacks on champ
>hitting on 2's
>extra D3 attacks on a 5+
>D2, wounds spill over
Oh gosh, oh my.

>>55384557
Dude, how else to describe a Muslim born and raised in Germany? Vague nationalism isn't worth the inconvenience.

>>55384563
I hope so

>>55384534
Shhh anon stop trying to use logic, just enjoy the shitshow from people who are too stupid not to reply to a shitpost

>>55384530
>Ehh, reddit nerd with the book confirmed 1 in 5 anyways.
that was reaper autos, h.bileflamer and blight laucher

>>55383871
>>55383938
>>55384027
>>55384549
There's a lot more Ork players here than I thought. Shame you guys almost never post batreps.

The Forge World of Ryza is built around the contained, molten core of its world. The intrepid magos of Ryza have learned much from their mastery of plasma-based artifice and containment. Their plasma weaponry sears through brush and bunker alike.

Ignores Cover and re-roll failed wounds to buildings.

>>55384584
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/6zvoyc/just_got_this_from_my_local_and_i_cant_wait_to/

This guy, in the comments.

Pic is first appearance, so I'd trust it as far as I trust a randos reading comprehension.

>>55384573
Muslim
Generally the identity of the religion OVER the identity of the nation they adopted.
Assuming they are second generation or the type of multicultural system.

>>55384584
And the flail.

>>55384617
I sure wish I could come to a general two days in a row and not see the exact same shitposts and pastas

>>55384617
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDlJAdEIFnc

>>55384633
You expect too much, friendo

>>55383871
Pretty nice yellow. How did you do it?

>>55384551
When I think of a german Muslim I think of delicious kabab

>>55384627
Ok, but a German Muslim, vs an American one, vs one in any majority Muslim country, when being specific to a trait of Muslims born and raised, as opposed to visiting, in Germany, saying
>Muslims act different to muslims.

Wich is fucking stupid.

>>55384669
You mean Döner. It's only good because of Glutamat (MSG)

>>55384569
Didn't think the champion could take a flail.. is that in the new book? Previous one says "Up to to plague marines can each replace their boltgun with a great plague cleaver of a flail of corruption"

Plague champion is a separate entry with different options, which if you're building an aggressive CC unit should probably be a power fist.

>>55384632
>>55384622
Well...shit.
oh well 3D3 attacks is fine i guess. the blight weapons are still pretty rad, so i guess its fine.

still bumbed out that a 5 man PM squad can take twice as many BLIGHTlauchers and BLIGHTlord termintors

>>55384057
Wtf is this cancer. Is that one army?!

>>55384681
I dont know, its the blight lords, not the plauge marines. heres hopeing

>>55384650
pretty much a glazefest starting with a solid basecoat of balor brown, a 1:1 mix of averland and yriel yellow, wash with a thinned down reikland fleshshade, the glaze the shit out of raised areas with the same 1:1 mix with a bit more screaming skull added each time

>>55384691
7e, when taudar were the dumbest shit.

>>55384691
2 CADs and that Riptide Formation

>>55384682
Yeah, I was hyped for the termies, might pass them over at this point, but the +1 to wound psychic power with 6+ for -1AP could be neat.

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>>55384633

>>55384674
If you want to focus on nationality then focus on it
I'm not the "german" fellow.
Hell if you want it as a demographic description go for it.
However depending on the system of integration and the current generation the given person may not believe that the nationality is their own and their identity can be more accurately formed by their religion or their parent's place of birth.
For instance Dutch pillarism has led to Turkish Muslims maintaining both their national and religious identity over the adoption of the nationality of the state they are currently in.

Since DG are on topic, with all the daemon engines around, is Epidimus a must pick at this point?

And is it better to summon him in, or ally a force in?

>>55384758
Who said i am passing them over? The models are rad as fuck, i just have a ranging hard on for flailsand grenade lauchers in genral (not just these ones), hecne why all my GSC guys have as many grenade lauchers as i can get

>>55384547
Be'lakor is a good way to get a greater daemons worked in to your CSM army and yet giving access to hereticus discipline. Field him in a spearhead with 3 giant (nurgle) chaos spawn, and they average out his relatively high cost while being huge, disgustingly resilient, regenerating distractions.

>>55384748
In the context of the Merkel shitpost I stand by my choice of words. Good points though.

>>55384674
I'm muslim. You know what I identify as? An American. Only, American.

Wait wait, I think I've got one guys
>Be me, Brit at local LGS
>Ahmed walks in with shit eating grin
>Not this asshole again
>Starts setting up his Tallarn conscript army again
>Anticipates his 20th win in a row
>No one can handle the spam
>I start to speak but my friend, Joffry, stops me
>"Nah mate, I got this."
>Gives me a wry grin
>Ahmed looks confused
>Joffry spoke about some new, secret army, but I didn't believe him
>He pulls up a two large army cases and opens them
>The absolute madman
>orks
>Ahmed is audibly sweating
>"Yeah I'll play ya, cunt"
>Starts placing down his orks
>They're all pink
>(p)Orks
>Ahmed starts yelling angrily at Joffry, saying this is islamaphobic
>Joffry just smiles and keeps placing his orks
>Ahmed packs up his Tallarn and leaves
>Rest of LGS is stunned
>Haram orks saved us all from Ahmed's Dune Division

>>55384679
I mean I'll eat both man, without the Turks germany wouldn't have the best variety of drunk food of any country
I mean seriously nothing beats a cup of döner with fries after a night of drinking

>>55384315
HORUS KNOWS HE CAN'T BEAT ME
THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE, AND THEY SPELL DISASTER FOR YOU, AT TERRA

>>55384790
>>(p)Orks
I like you.
Ironic shit posting is still shitposting but this got a chuckle

Why won't the model stick to the base? I'm using loctite super glue power flex. Do I need to use a diff glue for the base?

>>55384813
Plastic glue bruh

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>>55384129
>black templars
>implying heresy
>the guard
>tyranids
>none

Need some input from a DA player:
Should I have more than one TH+SS per squad of deathwing?
Should I make the sergeant the TH+SS bearer due to his extra attack?
Are deathwing knights as good as they look?

>>55384813
I use hotstuff.
If it can hold infinity models it can old anything.
Metal that is
>>55384822
yeah if you aren't plastic on plastic why nigger why?

>>55384822
Motherfuck

All these tools, paints, glues, brushes and shit cost more than the miniatures

>>55384790
300 orks by chance? red capes?

>>55384758
I'll still paint them up, they're neat, but they're not going to be worth the points investment when I want to cram all the other more attractive shit in.

Idk, if the mace matches the flail's look enough I might do that.

>>55384840
>All these tools, paints, glues, brushes and shit cost more than the miniatures
the fuck are on about?
>buy tube of plastic glue, clippers and hobby knife from army painter
>14.99 cancuckbucks.
>buy squad 30-60 bucks.
are you a mental defective anon?

>>55384840
just by faller super expert glue cement, you can get it for like $7 online and it'll last you forever. You'll find it's pretty awesome for tight spots, but the little nozzle gets clogged now and then, I kind of just wring it out between my fingers (it's metal) - clears up pretty easy.

>>55384842
no but they were kitbashed with Bretonnian knights

>>55384129
> Grey Knights
> Death Guard
> Custodes (fucking christ FW give us rules already
> Harlequins
> None, considering Death Guard

>>55384783
Cool, if I was referring to you or some one else of that discription I'd say American. If you considered both, then both, only Muslim? Then Muslim.

I was refering specifically to German Muslims, who'd identify with both.

Wasn't trying for anything else there.

>>55384844
I was thinking of using a crusader with knights+belial+apothecary+ancient as its payload, is this a bad idea? Thanks for your input by the way, I am still very new and would like to transition from just building/painting into actually playing too but I am so lost in this regard

>>55384682
not to mention you can now pack minimum units of 5 in a rhino with 4 total blight launchers. Stick plasma guns on the champs and you've got some pretty nasty (and surprisingly mobile) mid range firepower. Friggin expensive though.

>>55384877
What are YOU on about? One paint bottle costs 5 bucks here, and I need like a dozen of them alone.

>>55383495
Are Flash Gitz actually worth it this edition?

I kinda want to stick 5 of them in a gorkanaut instead of my 5 nobz.

>>55384129
Space Sharks
Iron Warriors
Sisters of Battle
Orks
Sisters and Praetorian Imperial Guard

>>55384929
That's why you buy Vallejo, anon.

>>55384929
What are you painting? In what colours?

>>55384903
>>55384783
Can you fuck off to /pol/ please?

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>>55384929
>a dozen
Oh anon...

>>55384840
$3.00 clips
$5.00. Exacto
$2.50 replacement blades
$5.00 glue

15 bucks anon.
Or, goto GW store and use theirs

>>55384927
No you can't, also capped at one in 5. See why the hype runs a tad dry?

>>55384944
Can you stop false flagging to start shit please?

>>55384939
They're only about half a dollar cheaper.

>>55384941
Tau. Dark.

>>55384959
I live in a country where I pay taxes to pay for things like infrastructure, universal healthcare, free college tuition etc. It's not that cheap here.

>>55384929
>dozens
how many armies are you painting?
>>55384939
Their model paints can be pretty runny depending on the set.
I've got one and it's fucking weird man

>>55384086
>Ultras
>Ultras
>Steel Legion
>Eldar/Orks tie
> IG and smurfs

>>55384988
Oh you have to shake them 5 times as much as you'd normally think. They're runny because all the pigment is stuck on the bottom.

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>>55384549

Red Warband here: Working on Meganobs rn

>>55384977
What colours specifically? I want to see how many paints you need.

>>55385001
>normie:the post

>>55384977
>friends
>game club
>flgs
>gw store
Requires social engineering, which shouldnt be hard if youre not a mutant autist chained to a basement

>>55384086
>tough one, IW/WE
>SALAMANDERS
>admech
>DA ORKZ
>admech, WE, guard

>>55384977
Well at least now you know how to refute a socialist every time you see one online.

> 3 plagueburst crawlers
Is it worth it lads?

Also melee or long range (blight launcher) termies?

>>55383495
Any good Night Lord book reccs, lads?

>>55385047
Aren't the launchers 18"
Not quite what'd id call long range, even if 24"

>>55385053
The Omnibus is the only one worth picking up.

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>>55385013
Something like pic related. The little gold coil details on weapons alone is three paints, sept colour is another paint, the blue lenses are three other paints etc

>>55385040
You're absolutely right, I would much rather pay slightly less for my manchild hobby than have free college tuition and universal healthcare, you div.

>>55385057
24 inch assault 2

>>55384086
>EC
>Red Scorpions
>IG
>Tau
>Tau, Admech, DG

>>55385066
You need to learn how to make your own shadows and highlights by mixing black or white paint into the base color.

>>55385066
I'd be surprised if manchild hobbies are the only thing that taxes drive up there.

>>55384966
Was talking about marines, not termies. 2 per 5 + plasma on the champ x2 in a rhino.

Not that I'd probably ever do that mind you, only that it's possible.

>>55385079
Ehh

I still prefer my Scarab termis for just standing back and blasting

>>55385047
My inclination is to lean towards Predators rather than Crawlers as I think DG need the pure Anti-tank more. Especially true if you have 3+ Preds and thus access to Kill-shot. But Crawlers are more durable and have respectable Anti-tank, so They aren't the worst option.

>>55384129
>>55384086

>Salamanders
>Iron Warriors
>AdMech
>Orkz
>buildings orkz and Admech, (I started collecting greenskins recently, and bought some admech from a friend)

>>55384086
>Chaos Space Marines
>IW
>Mechanicus
>orks
>Death Guard, CSM, Necrons, Mechanicus and 1250 IG

>>55385047
Crawlers are daemons so they're hitting on 4+. If all you want is indirect fire you're better off with renegade earthshakers.

>>55385093
Whoops, yeah that's technically a thing, super expensive, but totally a thing.

>>55385016
most marine factions are pretty boring and i like what rowboat has done to make them relatively interesting but i started playing with the 3rd ed starter box and was really young and thought the DE looked dumb so played marines. Grew up (a bit) and liked the idea of massed tanks and infantry and guard did those things well and had a cool aesthetic.

>>55384129
Star Phantoms
Alpha Legion
Mordian Iron Guard/Warhawks
Deff Skulls
Death Guard, Deff Skulls, Deathwatch

>>55385047
I'm skipping termies altogether, mostly because if I'm spending money on plastic - it's going to be artillery and those cute little deamon clown cars.

That said my death guard have been pallid hand since... whenever, and they favor armored assault. 5 rhinos and 3 predators are about all I kept from my old army, sold off my forgeworld dreads when traitor's hate gave the whole army relentless and all my ancient metal marines when the plastic ones leaked. It's funny when new GW releases make you more money than you spend on them.

>>55385124
The durability is worth considering, and if you brought Epidimus 4+ rr1s is at 88% of 3+ instead of 75%.

Yes I look at the math a bit wierd, no hate.

>>55385066
So using GW paints:

Armour
Mechanicus Standard, Nuln Oil wash, Dawnstone Administratum Grey

Gold bits that for some reason are green and blue:

Warpstone glow, Alaitoc, nuln oil, white scar

Lenses:

Kantor blue, Alaitoc Blue, white scar

So that's 8 paint pots total at 22.50£, convert that into euros or something.

Not that bad.

where the fuck is the Lucius preview? it's 11am already.

How best to utilize vulkan hestan

No Leviathan

>a player brings 500 points of army to your 2000 point game.
>he gets first turn because he only has one drop, a valkyrie with 12 characters in it
>First turn, he moves the valk up the board, disembarks the malefic lords, and then summons 1500 points of daemons tailored against your list.

Would you get mad?

>>55385241
Would I get mad at retarded Malefic Lord spam? In the first place why am I even playing against a WAACfag?

>>55385241
I would if I didn't SPAM CONSCRIPTS

>>55385241
Yeah probably

>>55385249
what does waac mean?

>>55385210
thx fampai

>>55385241
>disembarking after moving
>summoning after moving
I'd call him for cheating

>>55385241
>he gets first turn because he only has one drop, a valkyrie with 12 characters in it
>roll off with +1
>What is Sieze the Initiative. What is rerolling a failed StI

Because with just a rerollable StI you have a 30% chance. And if you Seize destroying that Valk is easy peasy and 2/12 should die from crashing.

>>55385282
You can disembark after a valk moves. I'm surprised people still don't know this.

You can also summon after disembarking, because you can move after disembarking.

>>55385282
>disembarking after moving
>summoning after moving
Valkys allow you to disembark after moving.

Disembarking doesn't count as moving. As you may move normally after disembarking (or in this case be stationary and Summon)

>>55385288
for all purposes of rules, a disembark is treated as 'moving' even if they don't choose to use their move.

>>55385241
>>he gets first turn because he only has one drop, a valkyrie with 12 characters in it
that's not how deployment works

>>55385299
What page of the rules says this?

>>55385297
>Disembarking doesn't count as moving.
yes it does.

>>55385299
yes, for purposes of rules such as heavy weapons. Summoning doesn't care if you countas having moved, it cares if you can move. The rule is presented as such: instead of moving. Meaning you can exchange movement for summoning.

If you can move, you can summon.

>>55385305
>that's not how deployment works
Actually it is
You place a transport (and all units inside) as one drop.

>Please tell me if I'm wrong.

>>55385238
Who?

>>55385310
afaik there was at least an FAQ that states that units with Heavy weapons get their shooting penalty if they disembark/arrive via deep strike.

>>55385282
Valkyrie has a rule that lets you disembark after moving, if you move more than 20" it counts as a risky disembarking so you roll a number of dice equal to the number of models disembarking, a number of those models of your choosing are slain equal to the number of 1's rolled
Disregard >>55385288 and >>55385297 on the second point disembarking counts the unit as having moved for the purposes of rules that such as Heavy Weapons, even though you can still move, Disembarking counts as a movement.

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>>55385297
Please read the fucking rules

>>55385313
If that's the case why can't a move 6 model move 5 and then just use his last inch to summon? Or run forward with heavy weapons and say he hasn't moved it?
This CLEARLY isn't how the game works, WAAC fags are cheaters.

>>55385336
No U

>>55385241
Not really because I actually play 40k and that's a shit strategy
>if he's playing that shit I'm gonna be playing my try hard tourney list
>drops lords
>they die if any roll ones and he won't use any rerolls because...
>he'll need to make a shitload of summoning rolls, the better the daemon the harder the roll
>there is no daemon he could tailor for my army since they are low tier at best save a few
>he has to own the models so his selection isn't infinite
Let's say that all goes well and he made some sort of pact with the dice god to never roll bad
>dudes are spread out, conscripts and other meatshield units soak up this autistic alpha strike
>fire a thousand lasrounds and mortars into the small guys, artillery which was untouched by that chunks larger stuff
>only real problem would be malific lords but scions can deal with them unless he wants to summon units in his back which is great for me because it blunts his assault and also guard doesn't care too much about smite spam
Not even really theory hammering, that's how pretty much every alpha strike goes against my guard

>>55385325
>>55385310
Dedicated transport rules. Page 183 in the rulebook.

They're wrong about not being able to summon though. The rules specifically say the unit can act normally that turn and list movement. Since you can move, you can summon. That's just basic english.

>>55385313
and if you disembark from a ship, you are moving OFF the ship.

you moved.

>>55385260
Win at all costs

>>55385238
Probably stick him in a Drop Pod with a bunch of melta Company Vets or MM Devs. As vehicles are single model units most Multi-Melta platforms don't really need him in addition to the CT.

>>55385336
>>55385347
>>55385325
>>55385313
>>55385341
Sounds like it needs another FAQ.

Is this, dare i say it, The most playtested edition ever?!?

>>55385341
Because no model can be moved more than once in the movement phase. If you move your model at all, you've used up all of its movement, regardless of how much you actually moved it.

>>55385361
Fuck off, meme bitch.

>>55385361
Multiquoting is a sign of autism, anon

>>55385354
Isn't that how everybody plays? Why is playing to win mocked? Seems like just something people say to mock the people that beat them.

>>55385321
If you only have a flyer on the table you count as being tabled retard
>I'll leave a lord in a corner
Great, now when you get seized on I'll deep strike everything I have in my reserves to kill him and then tell you GG and to actually play a real list next time

Alpha Legion Vanguard - 882

Prince with Eye and Bolter 165 pts

4xLC 1xPfist + HFlamer Termis 232 pts

Helbrute, autocannon+missile 112
Helbrute, autocannon+missile 112
Helbrute, autocannon+missile 112
8xBerserkers with axes, champ with maul 149

Thousand Sons Vanguard - 1117

Ahriman
5xScarabs with Reaper+Missile 266
5xScarabs with Reaper+Missile 266
5xScarabs 227
5xScarabs 227

Infiltrate berserks while Ahriman and Prince hide behind helbrutes then 25 termis in the face

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>>55385373
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class at Abbey Community College, and I’ve been involved in numerous competitive 40k games, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in the art of keyboard warfare and I’m the top troll in the entire Black Library stable. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. Then I'll write you in as some shitty stock character that gets his head blown off by Abbadon the Despoiler, while getting butt-fucked by some lesser demon. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting network Administrators at 4-Chan, and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can write about killing you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands, and, a pencil. Not only am I extensively versed in Chaos Lore, but I have access to the entire library of Games Workshop Black Library and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable faction of choice off the face of the this earth, you priviledged CYS male. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

>>55385383
there's a difference between playing to win and min-maxing every aspect of your army and playing like a massive faggot specifically to guarantee your win.

for example, conscripts are fine in a guard army, but running 2000 pts of conscripts is not the same.

>>55385383
There's playing to win, and playing to Win At All Costs, which includes cheating, slow playing, rules-lawyering, etc. Doesn't matter as long as you win.

>>55385384
Only after the first battle round anon. You're allowed to deploy fully in fliers so long as you don't stay that way.

>>55385384
>If you only have a flyer on the table you count as being tabled retard
(not that anon, but) only after the first battle round. There are 10 pages of rules. this shouldn't be hard

>>55385398
So then list tailoring daemon summoning wouldn't be WAAC according to you, because it isn't cheating, slow playing or rules lawyering.

>>55385383
It's not playing to win
It's playing to win at all costs
This means
>rules manipulation
>soft cheating like slow rolling to time stall or even hard cheating in some cases
>manipulating your opponent to get them on tilt
>not using proper sportsmanship
>bringing increasingly unfun lists
>jumping on to bandwagon armies
I know plenty of people who play to win but aren't WAAC

>>55385384
The tabled thing happens at end of battle round actually so you can have nothing but flyers on the table during deployment, but if you don't disembark or the disembarked/deep striked units die by end of round they lose.
He's still wrong about summoning anyway so it's a moot point, I even discussed it with my LGS judge.

I saw an anon a while back had converted Electropriests out of Kairic Acolytes, how easy is it to do?

I want to do something similar with Puppetswar robot endoskeleton skull heads and buzzsaw arms.

>>55385361
Rather, worst player Generation.

How long does it take for games workshop to restock their fucking kits online?

I've been waiting for a Ravager kit to come back into stock for at least a month now.

>>55385416
Nope. It's a pretty weak list, it's more a gimmick than anything else.

>>55385416
He is rules lawyering by trying to summon after a disembark though.

>>55385417
>bringing increasingly unfun lists
>jumping on to bandwagon armies

I don't have any problem with any of your list except for these entries. How can an army be unfun? Why is choosing the most competitive army bad?

>>55385358
Non dread vehicles don't benefit from chapter tactics

>>55385384
>If you only have a flyer on the table you count as being tabled retard

Sudden Death
>If at the end of any turn after the first battle round, one player has no models on the battlefield, the game ends
immediately and their opponent automatically wins a crushing victory...
>If at the end of any turn after the first battle round,
>AFTER THE FIRST BATTLE ROUND

Starting with just Fliers is a-okay. Just make sure you have dudes on the board before the end of Top of 2.

Idiot.

>>55385416
Are you just acting retarded to get people riled up and point out some kind of hypocrisy they have or are you really this stupid?

>>55385433
Uh no, the people against it are rules lawyering to prevent that. By your logic you're the WAACfag because you're trying to twist the english langauge and the rules to prevent a viable strategy.

>>55385312
It counts as moving for the purposes of firing heavy weapons but you are explicitly allowed to move after disembarking.

>>55385394

Underrated

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Don't have enough strike knights to make good lists now

>>55385475
It's what you deserve, fag.

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>>55385449
>I read Alinsky's book too

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>>55385401
>>55385403
>>55385420
Well ya got me there, I'll take my licks for not having my rulebook and all five FAQs open while shitposting on /tg/

>>55385475
Then get some, retard. Strikes and Interceptors are the new kings.

>>55385449
No, wrong way around dick head.
I spoke to a judge today, I had this discussion two threads ago, it doesn't work.
In order to summon you are not allowed to have moved. If you disembark, even though you have movement you have moved.
It's that simple.
Tailoring your list using summoning isn't WAAC, it's why summoning exists.
This specific iteration of summoning doesn't fucking work though, because you can't summon after a disembark.
No one agrees with your wrong interpretation, you have been told you are wrong by multiple people and a judge, stop shitposting your objectively wrong opinion.

>>55385486
This sums up what you're trying to do perfectly, you're not fooling anyone except the most retarded
>>55385449

>>55385236
GW being slow today I guess. They certainly didn't miss their mark on posting the stormcast painting tutorial on time though.

>>55385495
Just don't respond to him, no matter how many times you BTFU him he's just gonna wait a few threads and post this all again hoping we're all gone

>>55384595
I've not played a game of 40k since mid 2012, just got back into it a month or so ago, im repainting all my shit up to my current standards and I'll have a bash soon

>>55385495
What a coincidence, I spoke to a judge with higher credentials than yours, and my dad works at GW and nintendo. They both said my ruling is correct and not yours.

Summoning is very basic: you can give up your movement to summon. That's what instead of means. If you can move (and you can act normally after disembarking), you can summon. It is really that simple anon, and no amount of poor english will get you around that basic fact.

>>55385530
You don't even play 40k do you anon?
Let's see your army

>>55385383
Nobody is going to mock you for being WAAC at a big tournament. Thats what they're there for, pure unapologetic competition. The thing is this isn't a video game where you can just swap your character or army at the drop of a hat. A lot of the game is also hobby elements, collecting cool models, painting your dudes, and coming up with cool narrative forces. These elements can get pretty negatively impacted when one player is playing for pure rules optimization and another player just wants to play the best game possible with the models that attracted them to the game in the first place. In a casual game context the game works better when people come to it looking for a similar level of competition. Hopefully the difference between "waac" armies and friendly armies will get smaller and smaller in 8th ed. as GW makes yearly points adjustments in Chapter Approved. But this kind of community responsiveness and balance tuning is uncharted territory for 40k. Complaining about "WAAC" is the outgrowth of a game where historically your lovingly painted army might be stuck with weak rules for years or even a decade.

>>55385530
>my dad works at GW and nintendo.
Gee Billy, why does your dad have TWO great jobs?

>>55385516
I can't risk some poor ignorant idiot reading his post, not seeing any responses to him, and thinking it's correct before taking it to the store and getting disqualified for cheating.
Also he's making my faction look bad, I may be Chaos but I'm no cheater.
>>55385530
Lies, lies and wrong opinions in your entire post.
If you disembark you count as having moved, it is very simple, stop trolling.

>>55385516
>BTFU

is that some kind of new thermal measurement for sick burns?

>>55384086
>space wolves
>none stand out
>admech
>tau
>tau

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How do legions like the death guard get more dudes, or are they just made up of veterans of the long war? Does nurgle give them respawns?

>>55385562
He needs two because his son plays 40k of course

>>55385562
autistic children cost twice as much.

>>55385572
The warp is weird and fucks with time. They also recruit from and implant geneseed into cultists and such.

>>55385569
>BTFU
>schooled
>rekt
>pwnd
No matter what you say it's gonna sound cringy