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"Disappointed" Edition

Previous: >>55352364

RESOURCES

>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
http://www.mtgcommander.net

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity.
http://manabasecrafter.com/

CARD SEARCH

>Official search site. Current for all sets.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/

>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface.
http://magiccards.info/

Thread Question: What opportunities do you lament WotC missing or squandering?
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>Thread Question: What opportunities do you lament WotC missing or squandering?
iconic masters
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>>55361208
>What opportunities do you lament WotC missing or squandering?
O-Kagachi as you posted. Ludevic. Pirate legend being mediocre.
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>>55361208
>O-Kagachi
>Killing off Kozilek and Ulamog
>Eliminating Core Sets
>Rashmi not being connected to Mishra
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Trying this >>55357810 again because I got nothing last thread.
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>>55361208
Making the first card to give a noncreature source Lifelink the Jeskai color identity instead of Naya.
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I know that not every card is designed for EDH, but I always get sad when I see a card that's incidentally designed to not be used in EDH.
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Will mana echoes ever be reprinted?
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>>>55361156
i rarely run lands that cost more than a dollar and it really doesn't impact my performance much (i win quite a lot)
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>>55361268

Linking my post from last thread since I was a bit late.
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>>55361231
Sorry, there wasn't a token or counters theme for the limited format :^)
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Verdant catacombs worth it for 31$ for my gitrog deck? Its the last fetch I need.
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>>55361231
This
They should have called it ManaDrain Masters
Theres fucking cards from theros and m15 in there
The whole thing is a fucking disaster but it will Still sell because mana drain lottery
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>>55361269
Doubling Chant always makes me sad. I love that card. GB Shadowborn Apostle, I guess.
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>>55361252
Core sets are coming back friend
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>>55361293
it's not going to ever go down in value so think of it as renting
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>>55361293
It's a great card for gitrog, no doubt, just depends on your budget/if you have a job.
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>>55361269
>Too high of mana to be relevant without instantly winning the game in a constructed format
>Too rare to be relevant in a sealed format
>Doesn't do much in commander
What is her purpose? To be a shitty mythic to inflate the value of the other mythics in the set?
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>>55361298
>A fuckton of Standard all-stars isn't iconic

They outright said Masters 25 is the nostalgia set and that Iconic wouldn't focus on it.
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>>55361313
>>55361338
Thanks guys, I think I'll pick it up now and do that paypal pay after delivery thing to delay the payment a bit.
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>>55361343

he was playable in standard, not too expensive that is, there just wasnt a deck for him
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>>55361350
>tfw already run a bunch of Processors regularly, so I can easily deal with Mairsil
>tfw nobody around here plays Mairsil
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So, im gonna try Memnarch as a commander. What things should i include in the deck?
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>>55361264
>instead of Mardu
ftfy
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>>55361348
>Iconic Masters offers players a tour through some of the most powerful cards in over 23 years of Magic history.

Yeah I remeber the days when bogbrew witch and frost lynx spiked to $50 because they were format destroyingly powerful
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>>55361395
Islands
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Cheater story from last thread

alright, this is three years ago but I'll give it a whirl
>he was forced to mill Reef Worm, says it comes back as a 3/3, gets called out
>plays karnwalker +4 proceeds to grab at my hand saying he can pick which card to exile
>Karnwalker out, takes all exiled cards he owns and trys to get all the other exiled cards and stuffs them under karn saying "When I get his ultimate I get all these back"
>Trys to spellskite someone's equip ability
>I attack one of his ~20 walkers with a creature equipped with sword of the animist and he says "You're attacking a planeswalker so that doesn't trigger"
>some other damage to walkers bullshit
>He kills the Narset player who had out a global enchantment that would be beneficial to him and he says that it stays
>when we tell him that it actually leaves he tries to tuck it under Karn

There's a few more I'm missing but you get the idea.
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>>55361252
As >>55361312 said.
They're returning core sets because they realized they couldn't reprint staples that make standard enjoyable and not a mishmash of hit or miss mechanics without them.
I want to say no shit, but what the fuck Wizards, how did R&D fail that horribly at their jobs
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>>55361497
why do people play a social game and also think they can get away with being tremendous cheating faggots?
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>>55361395
39 lands
60 counterspells
You are not really playing your own deck you are playing everyone elses
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Can I get a second set of eyes on this? Am I missing anything?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/im-set-on-fucking-you-up-1/
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>>55361497
You really have to ask yourself
>why did you let him force you into a game?
>why did you continue playing?
>were you that desperate for a game?
>who was phone?
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does anyone else print tons of decks entirely made of proxies?
I have 3 whole decks which would have cost $400-$700 but instead they only cost about $30 because I put the paper prints in front of commons from boosters.

I used to feel bad about it but then when I see people with their $1k decks I stop feeling bad.
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Starshitty order came in tonight, fuckos. 10 packs each from three sets. Wish me luck.
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>>55361576
Why not just build budget? Making a usable deck for under 60 or so is an added level of challenge that still allows for plenty of freedom.
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>>55361395
Liquimetal Coating
Training Grounds
Heartstone
Mycosynth Lattice
Etherium Sculptor
Grand Architect
Vedalken Archmage
Foundry Inspector
Vedalken Engineer
Chief Engineer
Lodestone Golem
Thoughtcast
Chromescale Drake
Heartstone
Mechanized Production
Thopter Spy Network
Efficient Construction
Lots of mana rocks
Mana Vortex
Land Equilibrium
Overburden
Mana Breach
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>>55361576
Please dont reply to the bait, you know its bait and you will just shit up the thread like it does every time, be smart dont let your asperges take over you dont NEED to reply
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>>55361447
>I have no argument so let me cherrypick a common and uncommon
>he's never stomped people with Bogbrew in sealed

>>55361505
It's not R&D, it's Hasbro trying to push packs
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Realistically speaking, how much does a decent Angry Omnath deck cost? I'd like something in Gruul, and he seems fun.
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>>55361231
>no Demonic Tutor
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>>55361537
>commander makes druids tap for mana
>deck is filled with druids that already tap for mana
what
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>>55361576

When I first started playing Magic I made a few decks that were like 15-20% proxy. It's lame as fuck to play againsg mana crypts and sylvan libraries and such with decks that cost $65 total so I would build with staples I couldn't afford.

Eventually though I realized that the aesthetic look and feel of real cards is important to the Magic experience for me, and proxies stick out like a sore thumb, so now I don't run any, and I spent a lot of money to do that.

Was it kinda dumb to spend a bunch of money on a hobby when I live in a small apartment? Yes. But if I ever get tired of magic I can sell out and get a nice Windfall of cash.
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>>55361618
Seton's ability gets around summoning sickness so you can go turbo when he hits the field
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>>55361350
>Into grave.
>I just cage it again by playing a bounced Mairsil or via a blink source.
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>>55361563
We all kinda feel bad for the kid, he doesn't have any friends and got "expelled" from school.
He's not a bad kid 90% of the time but then he gets in these zones where he's just really toxic. Aspbergers will do that to you.
I say kid but he's only a year younger than me and 6'6" 300 something pounds, he would destroy at any sport but is afraid to play.
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>>55361618

If you're going off with glimpse of nature and shit it helps to be able to tap Druids for mana without them needing haste
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>>55361606
Picked 2 at random, but please tell me how the 3 abzan outlast guys were in every legacy deck since khans because they are really really powerful
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Is anyone else not able to register on Xmage?
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>>55361636
so he's just a pair of lightning greaves with a face?
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>>55361612
About $150 after your fetch, Oracle, Amulet and maybe Shared Animosity. He's dirt cheap.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/prototype-vengeance-of-zendikar/

I've put Oracle and Foothills in here since I last updated, but everything else is still the same.
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>>55361660
I like the sound of that.
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Combofag here. Just built a saffi deck and I'm trying to explain the karmic guide + reveillark combo to playgroup. Can you help put it in layman's terms for me?
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>>55361292
>was literally a +1/+1 counter theme and hydras in the set
DON'T YOU MEME ON ME BOY
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>>55361653
He affects your entire board and can be activated at instant speed, so no, not really
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>>55361606
Ulcerate, splatterthug and firemane angel are in every modern deck ive ever made, that deck is worth $1000s of dollars
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>>55361651
Not that guy, but the way I see building any set as R&D is to have uncommons and up get across what you really want from the set (uncommon legendaries, cycle of kamigawa dragons, praetors, etc.) And then use commons to fill out draft archetypes for limited. Judging any set by it's commons is bad practice now that the powerlevel has been set equal to rarity
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>>55361670
What exactly is there to play? You get your sac outlet, probably a Blasting Station or Ashnod's into play, you put Karmic Guide into play say it brings back Reveillark, sac it, bring back Reveillark, sac it, bring back Karmic Guide. Congrats, loop demonstrated, collect your trophy.
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>>55361670
I don't get it, what's the combo? Recuring your Saffi with Reveillark and using Guide coming back from Reveillark to get Reveillark back?
Did you forget to include that this needs a sac outlet and something to actually combo with or what am I missing.
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>>55361651
Are you blind? The set features cards that were strong when they were in Standard, with a lot of notable limited power players like Witch, Eternal Thirst and Doomed Traveler as well. You're asking for something you were never promised.
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>>55361745
I'm glad someone noticed that stuff like Topan Freeblade despite being in origins is still pretty fucking iconic to anyone who played limited.
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>>55361742
Kinda assumed sac outlet was implied. Soz.
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What's a good commander for land destruction stax? I'd like to include at least Izzet colors.
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>>55361778
J H O I R A
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>>55361758
Did it really need the bump to uncommon though? Even though it's a nice beater in limited I don't think it warranted a boost in rarity
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>>55361778
Sounds like you want Numot, the Devastator
Hes also white so every wrath in the game
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>>55361798
I've tried running Jhoira before, but I'm never able to survive long enough with her for any of my suspended cards to resolve. Usually, once she hits the board, everyone focuses me.
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>>55361843
Numot looks like a good fit. Lots of nice tax effects and enchantment support in white, too.
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>>55361745
My 5 color kamigawa dragon deck won me a pro tour :^)
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>>55361343
I'd talk about her casual appeal, but casuals aren't the best known for running 4-offs of things.

Oh, well, at least Baby Kolaghan is nice.
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favorite spellslinger in UB or UR?

I want to draw a bunch of cards and avoid drawing attention
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>>55361876
Dimir Taigam / Nin
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>>55361876
Jori En. Keranos, Mizzix, Melek, and Locust God are all too scary.
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>>55361876
>favorite spellslinger in UB
Dralnu, Lich Lord
>or UR
Jori En
>I want to draw a bunch of cards
Definitely Jori En
>and avoid drawing attention
Jori En suits all of your needs.
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>>55361594
I do have some budget and edited precon decks, but there's a frustration knowing cards that could win me the game or stop my opponents from winning that cost like $30 and I can't justify that much on one slice of cardboard
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>>55361208
>What opportunities do you lament WotC missing or squandering?

The masterpiece series.

I loved the BfZ masterpieces and the Kaladesh ones, they were 2 sets apart, but then they printed amonhkek with the shit looking masterpieces.
They should've just stopped at Kaladesh, waited for phyrexia to print more
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>>55361952
Some groups find any U/x commander scary. I can't even get Tomorrow to last a full turn cycle.
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>>55361641
>he would destroy at any sport but is afraid to play.
Which is actually kind of tragic, serious sports teams have done more for most gracelessly socially inept people than just about anything else I've encountered.
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>>55361843
>RWB
>Came out in 2007
>Destroy two lands
This card is vintage Murika.
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>>55361998
Find some friends who also want to play Budget EDH? My friend group has an established $60 limit on any given deck.
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>>55362128
What if they buy a precon for $35 and the value rises to $61 or more?
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>>55362128
$60 spent to build it, or do you check value every time?
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>>55362128
>>55362151
>>55362165
>Find some friends
My friends and I are not inclined towards trying to cheese the limit. We're all broke college students, and the limit is a helpful guidelines to avoid an arms-race the makes us all even more broke than we already are.

I suppose "Ballpark 40-60" is more accurate than "$60 limit". We're not going to refuse to play someone for their deck being a smidge more expensive, but playing with a $40 deck versus a $300 one is silly.
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>>55361264
>inb4 obligatory That Guy post
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>>55362240
Due to the way that thing is worded, it's actually arguably better than giving the spells lifelink - multiple copies stack, and stack further with a single instance of Lifelink.
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>>55361264
>>55362240
>anon btfo
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>>55361537
Root Maze to fuck people over with Winter Orb even harder
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>xyz is a nice format but real men play EDH

what are comemeder players always wrong?
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>orc
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>>55361843
How's this for a start for Numot:

Price of Glory
Storm Cauldron
Mana Vortex
Mana Breach
Overburden
Aether Flash
Burning Sands
Winter Orb
Static Orb
Arcane Lab
Karmic Justice
Martyr's Bond
Tectonic Instability
Uba Mask
Ruination
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>>55362369
>sac all your treasures at instant speed for guaranteed value in response to Vandalblast

Neat
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>budget ramos
>every multicolor charm
>shitty tri-lands/taplands for manabse
>door to nothingness and ramos as wincons
>trophy mage and fabricate to find chromatic lantern for fixing

can this hot garbage idea get any hotter?
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>>55362418
Dont forget legacy weapon
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>>55362435
>play legacy weapon
>pay UGRWB
>exile legacy weapon
Check mate atheists
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>>55362240
>>55362291
Tarmanoa is exactly why it is a travesty that Soul Fire got made. The mechanic got firmly established as Naya. But they decided to fuck that color combination by making the first instance of it that references lifelink by name into Jeskai.
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>>55362418
Prismatic Omen + Last Stand

Also, my captcha said Terminus
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>>55362561
Why not play gay kings and have both?
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>>55362418
Yup, make it have Zedru as the secret commander and do the whole harmless offering into all sorts of bullshit.
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>>55362600
Well, it didn't exist at the time. I guess now I could, but I really liked that mechanic in Naya. Green's lifegain is surprisingly underutilized by WOTC despite being part of its identity since the very beginning.

Also, unlike Blue whose previous damage dealing (Psionic Blast and similar) is now considered to be mistake, Green still gets Hurricanes and shit so it really makes more sense in Green.
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>>55362561
>implying it's not just a RW thing, and Tarmanoa and Soul Fire are just RWx cards that cash in on it
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>>55362435
>>55362579
>>55362611
this are all great suggestions
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>opponent starts turn
>I tap two islands and declare I have two blue hanging
>guy gets scared I was gonna counterspell some big play
>passes turn
>I didn't even have a counterspell in hand
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>>55362787
wait can you even do that? Just tap mana and have it in your pool on someone else's turn?
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>>55362804
Nope. Each time there is a phase change the mana pool is emptied
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>>55362804
That's how mana works. Technically, before you spend it on something, the mana is sitting there in your pool.
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>>55362787
>he moves to the next phase and your mana pool empties
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>be teacher
>new kid this year, kind of weird, but decent guy
>starts talking to me about magic
>clearly hasn't played, or maybe played properly, but wants to try
>he has cards at home
>brings a deck today
>fifth edition demonic tutor and a vampiric tutor
>says he has boxes at home of cards he acquired
I want to get my grubby hands all over them. I told him how much those two were worth but I'll undercut him like a bitch on other stuff desu
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is there a good way to make an aggro delver type deck in edh?

I get bored winning with just storm, copying instants into a lot of mana for a fireball or stroke of genius, and infinite comboing in any way
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>>55362787
Start every play with
"4 out of 5 dentists agree I should play this card"
If someone tries to counter it just tell them you didnt actually play it you were just making a casual observation, if they dont counter it immediately pass into the next phase and tell them its to late now
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>>55362804
yes, you can activate mana abilities whenever priority is passed to you. Doing this for no reason is retarded though since the active player can just initiate a phase change if they don't have anything left to do in that phase and then your pool empties
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>>55362836
>if they dont counter it immediately pass into the next phase and tell them its to late now
That's not how Magic works.
2/10
Here's your (You)
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>>55362725
Fair. And if they do print that effect again in RW, it would be nice to be able to run it in decks with either of the two previous instances.

If they ever print "noncombat damage gains you life", I want it in Naya so it works with Fight.
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>>55361208
>Thread Question: What opportunities do you lament WotC missing or squandering?
Mechanics wise, every Boros legend ever.

Lore wise, that they shoved Eldritch Horror into Innistrad instead of making a Victorian/Edwardian plane with the tropes that actually make Eldritch Horror work such as xenophobia and mental illness.
Also the Sun Empire's lack of religion. Yeah they worship dinos, but Aztec religion had a cosmovision worthy of writting a whole collection of hardcore progrock operas that's being completely ignored because lol dinos. Mayael was a better tlatoani than Huatli and she wasn't even meant to be meso-american.

Art wise, no adequate bodice rippers either in the eldritch horror set or the pirate set. This game's getting too sex negative and it pulls me off that they avoid sensuality and passion even where it makes the most sense. I'm also mad about no Persephone or Aphrodite in Theros.
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>>55362883
Naya should get "noncombat damage gains you life"
Jeskai should get "noncreature damage gains you life"
Mardu should get "damage you deal on your turn gains you life"
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>>55362874
>ill counter that card you played 5 turns ago because I can recon anything from any period in time because I dont have to react to you casting it
checks out
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>>55362899
Grixis should get "you have no life"
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>>55362892
>Art wise, no adequate bodice rippers either in the eldritch horror set or the pirate set.

There are some vampires.

>I'm also mad about no Persephone or Aphrodite in Theros.

They said she would've been the RG God, except that they needed the spot for Xenagos.
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>>55363034
Going to need some xenacross rule 34 in a bodice now, thanks
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>>55362892
>Art wise, no adequate bodice rippers either in the eldritch horror set or the pirate set. This game's getting too sex negative and it pulls me off that they avoid sensuality and passion even where it makes the most sense.
But anon, if we do that the loud internet people (twitter bots) will say bad things about us!

You will also never see a Blue entry into pic related's cycle, because the name would have unfortunate implications.
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>>55363241
>game where mind jacking is a thing
>dude punching a bitch is too much
>despite said bitch clearly being far from powerless.
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>>55362892
Brion Stoutarm is fun and unique. Archangel Avacyn is an interesting take on Boros. Aurelia is combatcentric, but at least she's really good at what she does and can play around with tap abilities. Other than them, I'd agree that pretty much every other Boros commander is a bit boring and disappointing. Maybe Gisela gets an honorable mention as well.
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>>55363241
Sexy vampires get a pass.
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>aethersnatch a viscious shadows >the guy still finishes his combo because he would have lost to backswing and lets me kill everyone
>mfw I dont know how to feel about it
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>>55363241
They don't have to name it Triumph of the Will.
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>>55362892
I'm honestly getting tired of small planes.

Dominaria had continents and oceans and dozens of cultures and kingdoms. Recent planes feel like they're about the size of a state at best.
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>>55362983
Anon you're being disingenuous and you know it.
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>>55361576
Yeah I have a ton of 100% proxy decks and they are a great way to play.
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>>55363281
There's also Gisa doing weird stuff in the background every so often.
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>>55363341
I suppose if your playgroup allows it, it's a cheap way to play.

You can't really venture too far out of the playgroup though.
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>>55363341
>>55363386
We have a friend who never really played cardboard magic, but has a big collection of cards and edh decks online. So when he started playing with us offline, we let him proxy his decks since he already had the cards digitally. That's really the only reason we'd allow a whole proxy deck though.
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>>55363034
>>55363241
Bodice Ripper generally refers to a heroine that gets dragger into adventure by virtue of being so hot she ends up in love polyhedrons with heroes, rogues and villains. And who is strong/smart enough to keep herself (mostly) safe.

It's not just about having tits on show, and almost every woman that shows cleavage being a villain or monster doesn't help either.
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>>55361208
>Thread Question: What opportunities do you lament WotC missing or squandering?
Every Boros legendary ever. Like seriously, I don't think there's a color combination as starved for unique and fun generals as Boros.

Giving red the ability to make token copies of enchantments during Theros.

Not actually going to court and just saying fuck the Reserved List back when it was an issue they could have forced in 2009.

Hiring SJWs as lead writers and world creative people who don't actually know a lick of history outside of "muh white devil" and "muh oppression" and basically completely fucking up meso-America and the whole dynamic between the Aztecs and the Conquistadors.

In fact let's just call it all of the creative time hirings in the last 10 years.

Getting rid of the core sets. Just....fucking why you unbelievable fuck canoes. You tried this already you stupid cock gnoblers. You tried this and it DIDN'T FUCKING WORK. That's why we went to fucking yearly core sets to begin with.

Not printing more Enchantment support in Theros. They said that Theros was going to be an Enchantment Mirrodin. They fucking lied to us.

Not printing Modern Masters and Iconic Masters and Eternal Masters at the same quantity and length of time that they print the Core Sets in an effort to bring down the prices on format staples like Fetches and Goyf.

Killing official support for Legacy like that unyielding fuckfaces that they are.

The list goes fucking on and on, almost all of it done under Rosewater.
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>>55363468
That sounds really cliche and kind of generally low quality.
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>>55363474
>They said that Theros was going to be an Enchantment Mirrodin. They fucking lied to us.
But anon, didn't you love all your overcosted Bestow and Constellation cards that got totally overshadowed by "Nearly vanilla beaters" (RG Monsters) and "Dude to put pants on" (Heroic)?
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>>55363474
B-but muh "muh Rosewater boogeyman" argument!

Seriously, though, they don't want to bring down the price on format staples, because that would make their friends at SCG, ARG, and the like all sad. And, at least from what I've seen at the LGSes I've been to, the Magic community doesn't take kindly to new players.
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>>55363474
>almost all of it done under Rosewater
So you're blaming
>Legal decisions
>Staff hiring
>Creative
>Print runs
>Organized play
on the guy whose job is to design sets. Did you think he's the CEO or something?
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>>55363474
>Not actually going to court
Why would they need to go to court? I don't think it's a legal thing.
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>>55361208
I don't play EDH, but my friend is trying to get me to play with him. Anyone know if a Hope of Ghirapur for a commander is good for a memedeck, or is it too trash to consider?
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>>55363514
>And, at least from what I've seen at the LGSes I've been to, the Magic community doesn't take kindly to new players.
You must live in a shitty place then.

In my experience, the mtg community is one of the most inclusive and friendly ones out there.
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>>55363504
None of that looks like Gary.
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>>55363491
Sure, having female characters be pretty much men is much better.
There's roles only attractive heterosexual women can play and not using them because it'd upset landwhales who don't even buy your product is a waste.
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>>55363562
I've heard good things
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>>55363468
Oh, well, we can't have that because we have 5+ planeswalkers to focus on in every story now.
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>>55363562
Colorless decks are probably not the best first edh decks.
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>>55363563
Even when I've been in other states, the Magic community has always been the most hostile, exclusive, and cliquish.
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Is there a card that makes an/all opponents discard when one of your creatures dies. Besides Sad Hypnotist, sort of like Zulaport Cutthroat.
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>>55363474
I'd bet some of your favorite cards and even some of your favorite sets were designed by Mark Rosewater.
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>>55363573
Gary was a single card that created an archetype out of the block before it though so he's a different case.
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>>55363577
>not using them because it'd upset landwhales

How about not using them because they're cliche dime store novel garbage?
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>>55363594
No. Stop for a moment and consider how ridiculous that would be, especially considering how much they limit instant discard.
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>>55363504
It was great, along with the total lack of decent enchantment recursion that could have been printed and the complete and utter saturation of useless mechanics.
>Heroic, Inspired, Tribute, Strive
Seriously, whoever thought that it was a good idea to have seven goddamn mechanics in a small set is a complete fucking idiot and should have been fired.

>>55363514
I think a lot of it is, a good chunk of the Magic community is heavily invested in one format or another or even multiple formats, and most new players have no goddamn clue what those are. So nobody really wants to play "kitchen table Magic" especially the kinds of people who show up to a FLGS every week.

>>55363548
Haha, no. It's part meme and part he's the director of R&D and he's been the director of R&D for almost 15 years now, and he's been heavily involved in the marketing and development of the game for almost it's entire existence. He has clout to throw around when it comes to this stuff.

>>55363558
It is a legal thing, that's why they backed down. They made what counts as a legally binding contract with all of their buyers that cards on the Reserved List would never be reprinted. So technically speaking if they decide to say "Fuck the reserved list." and reprint things like the OG Duals and the Power Nine, collectors could sue them for breach of contract. They had a situation where they could have forced the issue back in 2009 with the collectors edition Karn, but they didn't and now just kind of pretend that those cards and the formats that they are played in don't exist.
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>>55363594
Dark Prophecy + Words of Waste
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>>55363504
>didn't you love all your overcosted Bestow
I used a couple of the cheaper Eidolans in a pretty fun deck. But I'm not going to pretend that Ethereal Armor and Fencing Ace didn't do most of the lifting.
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>>55363654
>Seriously, whoever thought that it was a good idea to have seven goddamn mechanics in a small set is a complete fucking idiot and should have been fired.
He didn't get fired though anon.
He went on to make everyone's favourite iconic set, Battle for Zendikar.
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>>55363474
>They said that Theros was going to be an Enchantment Mirrodin.

Source that. The quotes I can find all have them saying that Theros was "The Greek Block" first and an Enchantment block second. The playerbase heard "enchantment matters" as "Enchantment Mirrodin". You lied to yourself.
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>>55363680
Or vampiric rites
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>>55363685
Scratch that I'm retarded, Ken Nagle worked on ORIGINAL Zendikar along with Born of the gods and Journey into nyx
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>>55363606
Oh absolutely. Doesn't mean I'm not allowed to dislike the direction his leadership in R&D has taken the game, or call him out on stupid bullshit that he's done.
>Time Spiral Block was a mistake
>Implying their second most popular block in terms of percentage of the player base at the time was a mistake
>Nobody liked Kamigawa or Lorwyn
>Every poll that they've ever done on worlds that people want to see more of shows Kamigawa and Lorwyn near the damn top.

Shit like that mostly.
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>>55363691
Someone wasn't paying attention during the SDCC previews.
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>>55363594
Dying Wail
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>>55363725
>>55363691
It's also the way that Mirrodin was described when it was first announced as an "Artifacts Matter" block. So yeah, there's definite correlation there.
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>>55363654
>He has clout to throw around when it comes to this stuff.

So then your argument is "It's probably his fault because I don't like him, not because I have any proof that it is".

So, what then? You think Aaron Forsythe was in his office, finger hovering over the button to print another hundred thousand boxes of Modern Masters when in swaggers Mark Rosewater, neck stooped from the weight of his giant, solid gold Star of David, who proceeded to kick Aaron's desk over and say "I think we need to hire a black lady to make sure Theros is diverse and also I'm killing Legacy as my first step towards killing all of Magic!"
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>>55363725
Again, source that.
Not just vague allusions, a source.
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>>55363713
>Implying their second most popular block in terms of percentage of the player base at the time was a mistake

It shitter-shattered acquisition and sales. From the perspective of longterm existing players and from the safety of hindsight, yes, Time Spiral block was great and even MaRo says he loved it and doesn't regret doing it. However, from the perspective of trying to keep the game going, it very much was a huge mistake.

It did clue them into the notion they have two very distinct markets that react to products differently, and the longterm enfranchised players are the sort they now print Conspiracy for.
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>Nonbasic lands lose any other land types and abilities they had.
>They gain the land type Mountain and gain the ability "T: Add R to your mana pool."

>Magus of the Moon's effect doesn't affect names or supertypes.
>It won't turn any land into a basic land or remove the legendary supertype from a legendary land, and the lands won't be named Mountain.

>If a nonbasic land has an ability that applies "as [this land] enters the battlefield" or that causes it to enter the battlefield tapped or with counters, the land will lose that ability before it applies.
>This is a change from previous rules.

>If a nonbasic land has an ability that triggers "when" it enters the battlefield, it will lose that ability before it triggers.

uuuh

https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/iconic-masters-release-notes-2017-09-11
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>>55363763
>It's also the way that Mirrodin was described when it was first announced as an "Artifacts Matter" block.

It'd be kind of hard to sell Mirrodin as anything else. There wasn't a prevailing theme more prominent than "Metal World".
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>>55363794
I'm sure he thinks that MaRo is doing what he thinks is best for the game and using his seniority and clout to influence decisions towards that goal.

He just doesn't always agree with MaRo's idea of what's god for Magic.

>>55363794
>when in swaggers Mark Rosewater, neck stooped from the weight of his giant, solid gold Star of David, who proceeded to kick Aaron's desk over
I can, however, confirm that this happens on a frightening frequent basis.
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>>55363836
So it's slightly worse against Shocklands now.
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>Favorite color to play?
>Favorite color combination?
>Least favorite color to play?
>Favorite tribal?
>Favorite block mechanically?
>Favorite block aesthetically?
>Favorite janky mechanic?
>Favorite kink/fetish?
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>>55363848
>I can, however, confirm that this happens on a frightening frequent basis.

How would you know? Aaron?
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>>55363842
Couldn't we just sell it as Karn made a plane and fucked it all up?
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>>55363842
We were also promised an indian inspired set and what we got was the phantom menace
The only thing indian about kaladesh was that the while set was a public defecation
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>>55363855
The rule change also affects blood moon
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>>55363886

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looking to build an orzhov deck with either karl or teysa as my commander, would the call the spirits precon be a good base? Its only $28 and comes with both of them and some other fun cards.
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>>55363861
>B, or R, or maybe B, could be R though
>BR
>?
>Wurms
>Odyssey
>Innistrad 1.0
>The land continues to burn
>Cock worship
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>>55363886
It's a lot harder to do Vishnu as a card than Zeus or Ra, since Hinduism is still around and kicking.
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>>55363861
>U
>UW
>G
>Knights
>Innistrad
>RTR
>King Macars gold
>male vs male mating press
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>>55363886
>Indian-like plane
>clearly set in colonization era
Then where did the parallels to the colonizers come from? Where did this oppressive regime of white and blue nerds come into play if the "natives" on the plane are brown? Where the fuck did Kieran, a redhead freckled nerd come from?
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>>55363861
>>Favorite color to play?
Red
>>Favorite color combination?
RUG
>>Least favorite color to play?
Black
>>Favorite tribal?
Minotaur
>>Favorite block mechanically?
Ravnica
>>Favorite block aesthetically?
Kamigawa
>>Favorite janky mechanic?
Devour
>>Favorite kink/fetish?
Same Size Vore, as a female pred
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>>55363924
Honestly just buy them separate the deck revolves around daxos so you wont get anything useful besides the manabase, even then you could probably make the manabase yourself for $10
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>>55363933
Podracing kali would have been worth the effort
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>>55363942
>Something is described as "inspired by"
>It has to parallel it exactly
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>>55363842
Yes but the point is that when you have a block described as Artifacts Matter and it's composed of like 50%+ artifacts and a good chunk of the rest of it is cards that interact or synergize with artifacts, you've established a precedent for using the phrase "X matters" to describe a block. So when you then go and describe a block as "Enchantments matter". People are going to be expecting 50%+ of the cards to be enchantments, and a sizeable portion of the rest to be cards that interact or synergize with enchantments. And they didn't do any of that with Theros. It had maybe twice the number of enchantments a standard block did, and had like maybe five or six non-enchantment enchantment synergy cards.

>>55363848
>I'm sure he thinks that MaRo is doing what he thinks is best for the game and using his seniority and clout to influence decisions towards that goal.

>He just doesn't always agree with MaRo's idea of what's god for Magic.

Exactly this.
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>>55363836
Im not sure I like it, but I can deal with it. I hate lands as a mechanic so I love bloodmoon.
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>>55363861

>Favorite color to play?
Black
>Favorite color combination?
Simic, Selesnya, Gruul, Dimir, Orzhov, Mardu, Grixis
>Least favorite color to play?
none
>Favorite tribal?
Zombies, Angels, Vampires, Walls
>Favorite block mechanically?
Urza's Saga
>Favorite block aesthetically?
Ice Age
>Favorite janky mechanic?
Conspire
>Favorite kink/fetish?
FFM/Harem/Blowjobs
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>>55363836
So this turns on Darkdepths with no counters and then you have to get rid of magus right?
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>>55363965
When will we get a real middle east set?will wotc ever have the gonads? Will there only be one main antagonist or 3 just to troll sunni? These are the real question, we can only go back to the same plane so many times
>Song related
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IcjWJ9t2Yag
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>>55363861
>>Favorite color to play?
Blue
>>Favorite color combination?
Black/Red
>>Least favorite color to play?
White
>>Favorite tribal?
Wizards
>>Favorite block mechanically?
Mirrodin
>>Favorite block aesthetically?
Return to Ravnica
>>Favorite janky mechanic?
Phasing
>>Favorite kink/fetish?
Female Furniture Masturbation
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>>55363991
correct
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>>55364003
Fucking newfags
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>>55363973
>Yes but the point is that when you have a block described as Artifacts Matter and it's composed of like 50%+ artifacts and a good chunk of the rest of it is cards that interact or synergize with artifacts, you've established a precedent for using the phrase "X matters" to describe a block.

Okay, but Kaladesh is also an "artifacts matter" block and it's got like 20% artifact saturation. Innistrad is a "graveyard matters" block and maybe 15% of the cards say "graveyard" in the text. The "precedent" has a bunch of other examples showing it can vary anywhere from probably 10% to over 50%, which is a pretty wide range.
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>>55363861
>Favorite color to play?
Black
>Favorite color combination?
Grixis
>Least favorite color to play?
Green
>Favorite tribal?
Spirits
>Favorite block mechanically?
Time Spiral
>Favorite block aesthetically?
Kamigawa
>Favorite janky mechanic?
Suspend
>Favorite kink/fetish?
Voyeurism, telepathy, masturbation, forced masturbation, meta-ERP
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>>55364024
This makes things better and worse
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>>55364027
One card is not the same thing as a set on a Middle East-inspired plane.
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>>55363886
But they couldn't do anything Indian with the set either. If they made Hindu gods they would've been shit on by the religious. If they touched the caste system they would've been called assholes and racist. If they touched on the problems of colonization, population, and poverty everyone would've been sad/offended. None of these sell sets. So instead they said it was about India TM and referenced only the most superficial parts of India like trains, elephants, and wily bandalars so they could sell product while getting good boy points for being "inclusive." It could've been really cool but instead it was shallow and filled with garbage.

Hopefully when we go to Not!Africa it will be better executed. Stuff like Anansi, Sonjarta, and the Mali Empire.
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>>55364041
>What is Rabiah
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>>55363945
>Favorite color to play?
White
>Favorite color combination?
Jeskai
>Least favorite color to play?
Green
>Favorite tribal?
Knights or angels
>Favorite block mechanically?
Toss up between Mirrodin, Scars and Zendikar
>Favorite block aesthetically?
Kamigawa
>Favorite janky mechanic?
Ninjutsu
>Favorite kink/fetish?
Futanari catgirls on dudes.
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>>55364049
A place they'll never go to again.
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>>55364027
>a real middle east set
>not disney middle east
Lysdexia is a btich
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>>55364041
Literally a set called Arabian Nights. Learn more about the fucking game before you cry standardbaby
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>>55364049
Never coming back.
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>>55364047
We already did the continent of notafrica, it was called notegypt set in one entire city
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>>55364047
>when we go to Not!Africa
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>>55364064
Someone scrolled too far down on decked builder, we got a live one here bois
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>>55363886
hearty kek
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When will we get notantactica? Just snow covered lands and penguin/whale tribal
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>>55364003
That song is stuck in my head now, thanks for that
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>>55364088
>He doesn't play casual with newfags and oldfags when he started playing
My meta of casual players were
>Infect
>Tribal Beasts
>Vampires
>Guttersnipe
>Shazzarad
>Affinity
>Senguine Bond/Fast Bond/Zuran Orb
>Enchantress
>Only cards from legends + power 9 without black lotus
Thanks to those guys I had a large card pool in deck building now.
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>>55364140
Where do you live that there's a casual player meta? Where I live, the casual players keep to themselves and avoid the LGSes most of the time, and the LGSes are full of self-righteous grongnards.
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>>55363343
I want to Kissa the Gisa.
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>>55364182
Id drink her pissa
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>>55364039
It's easier to just use vampire hexmage
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>>55364030
Kaladesh is post-Theros and therefore doesn't factor into this example of the disappointment with Theros, and Innistrad had other mechanical themes that tied into and accentuated the graveyard mechanic. Whereas you have Odyssey Block which was also a graveyard themed block and had nearly 30% of the cards in the block interacting with the graveyard in some way, or Invasion block, which was a multi-color/color matters block where nearly a third of the cards in the block were either multi-colored or interacted with color in some way. It's the same thing with Ravnica and Return to Ravnica. And Kamigawa was a "Legendary Matters" block and had almost a third of it's cards either Legendary or cared about things being legendary. Same thing with most of the blocks that are described as having a "theme".
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>>55364003
>Will there only be one main antagonist or 3 just to troll sunni?
Just one, ((them)).
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>>55363625
Like 100% of the Gatewatch storyline?
Or do you actually think superhero comics are literature?
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>>55364229
And of course don't forget Alara Reborn, which was a 100% multicolour set.
>the 5 shards each got a full 3 sets worth of multicolour support
>the 5 wedges/clans got one set and the got tossed out for "LOL TIME TRAVEL LOL DRAGONS LOL HALF A RAVNICA"

I will never not be mad about WotC fucking over Shards, I demand two more sets worth of good Temur and Mardu cards or I'm letterbombing WotC headquaters.
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>>55364047
>All of Indian history is either mythical or colonial
Kiran's airship was a shitty Taj Mahal and there were no Rakshasa.

All around a poor effort.
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>>55364221
Easier yes, but when I make a deck, I want a hundred ways in and a hundred ways out.

>>55364160
Colorado, but I moved away. Good guys. Sometimes you will find some cool guys who take casual to it's furthest or some old guys who come back with old standard decks. Lotta fun just bashing decks with completely differant mindset and personalities behind them. Key, I think to this, is to get shops to promote casual play. Standard brings in kiddies allowances, but if you want a healthy casual, give standard a night off every so often and then they'll have no competition to do, so they play magic with who ever.
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>>55364229
Alright.
So, for starters, 25% of Theros is Enchantment cards and another 5% care about Enchantments, or produce Enchantment tokens.

>other mechanical themes that tied into and accentuated the graveyard mechanic
So like Heroic tying into an increased number of Auras, and Devotion tying into an increased number of permanents with colored mana symbols?
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>>55364300
That's like 200 cards.
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>>55364252
That's a reason to curb the Gatewatch, which is happening now, not a reason to do other garbage things.
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>>55364268
>Planeswalker's Guide to Alara sold poorly
>Despite being awesome
>We never got PWGtINN or PWGtTK because of it
We are our own worst enemy.
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>>55364182
You wont belive how hard I was when I saw the christine sprankle cosplay of gisa (no homo)
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You guys it just hit me 2 years after the fact:
Flamerush Rider was built to synergize with Wingmate Roc's (and other's) Raid ETB
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>>55364454
Too bad the card was fucking garbage though
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>>55364579
It's a nice XP counter enabler for Kalemne.
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>>55364300
When Standard isn't playing, the Modern players come in, and they're even worse.
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>>55364300
hey im from colorado, what shop did you play at?
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>>55363708
>>55363685
>tfw reading some of the articles for The Great Designer Search which is partly how the humongous fuckup that is Ken Nagle got hired
>mfw reading Ken Nagle get shit on for being a boring designer
>mfw they still hired him and his boring by the numbers bullshit ruined both Born of the Gods and Journey into Nyx

Also
>all the comments from designers bashing people for self mill, "PLAYERS HATE SELF MILL REE"
Who the fuck actually cares about self mill? Are WotC really this retarded and out of touch with their playerbase? Or are players really that retarded that they care about self-milling at all?
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>>55364789
Everyone I know either loves self-mill or doesn't give a fuck. The only thing resembling self-mill that someone I know actually hates is a card in Yugioh that's essentially "Exile the top ten cards of your library face down, draw 2 cards"
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>>55361269
I use her in Ur-Dragon as an haste enbler for when i shit out my deck with an Omniscience or when i ult temur Sarkhan, does a fine job at that.
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>>55364286
Okay. Tell me what you know about India that is not related to myth or colonization? Can you tell me about Muhgal Empire with out google? What about the Punjabi region? Even if you can tell me about them most people who play M:tG can not. Further more they do not give a fuck about was happening in India in 950 A.D. From a pop culture perspective the only things that matter about India are Colonization, Ghandi, and Hinduism. No one cares that Indian women are facing a 14% increase to the price of tampons from government imposed tax. No one cares about the three way border conflict between India, Pakistan, and China in the Kashmir region. And I bet you almost anything most people can't tell you about Bactria, Sihkism, or Jains. Hell I bet most people can't even tell you what countries made up British India with out looking that up.

The ultimate point is there was no reason to do an India plane unless you were going to reference shit people know. And there was no good way for them to reference what little the average person knows about India with out blowing up in their face.
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>>55364885
I unironically liked Kaladesh but despised the story. It would have been cool if we got to see a little more than a single city. I hope they never bring back the gatewatch ever again.
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>>55363886
well they would have invoked the wrath of that fat indian guy, who asked them a thousand questions about kaladesh, if they made it too stereotype. in the end he bitched about it anyways.
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>all these Maro apologists
Wew lad, since when Wizards staff came here to shitpost?
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Your opponent casts Radiate targeting your Chaos Warp. How do you react?
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>>55364945
Hating MaRo is a meme. People hate him because they don't have the energy to look through the list of WotC employees.
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>>55364959
*loud vacuum noises*
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>>55364959
>>55365002
Even better.
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>>55365015
Except they only technically casted one which placed a shit load of triggers onto the stack, so that wouldn't work. Or well it would, but you wouldn't be putting it out for zero.
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>>55365015
definitely.
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>>55365041
The free part doesn't matter. You get to exile every Chaos Warp that is aiming at one of your spells and leave the rest of them on the stack.
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>>55365045
>aiming at one of your spells
Permanents, I mean.
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Redpill me on Teferi, why is he such a competitive commander? Is the deck just goodstuff? What are the wincons?
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>>55365063
A lot of blue babies like combos, thats it.
Look at the decklists, its all combos.
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>>55364885
They forgot to add the most important part of india though.
DESIGNATED
SHITTING
STREETS
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>>55365091
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>>55365117
That's a tunnel anon. I need STREETS
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>>55363306
they feel like that because we're only being shown an area the size of a small state - sometimes even as small as a single city.
for example, kaladesh apparently had a whole bunch of stuff beyond the borders of ghirapur, but we never saw it beyond what's on land cards and a handful of creatures because the story was laser-focusing on this dumb inventor's fair

the 2-set system also doesn't help because there's now vastly less cards to represent a plane and what's going on in it, which i've also noticed makes it feel like the plot is going way too fast - in one set everything is hunky dory and a normal day for the inhabitants, and in the next we've gone straight into apocalypse with nothing in between
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>>55365263
The 2-Set Block model is being demolished now because they realized how much of a fuck-up it's been. The trouble is that you can see why they did it, and it made sense. There have been several blocks, like original Zendikar, original Innistrad, and Theros, that could have lived comfortably in two sets without causing a lot of issues. One big problem is that they immediately launched into storylines that were very poorly suited for it, with the exception of Amonkhet and probably Ixalan. Battle for Zendikar and Shadows Over Innistrad could have both benefited significantly from having room to breathe.

Luckily, beginning with Dominaria, we're moving into the best potential future for it, where it'll be done on a case-by-case basis.
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Assuming you have fetches and accelerants and so on in your deck, when should you mulligan in edh?
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>>55365765
I will mulligan if I don't have 3 lands, but my preferred hand is 3 or 4 lands, a mana rock, a removal or counterspell, and then one bomb/combo piece.

Thankfully I play with friends in casual mostly, so we allow one mulligan where you can get ride of certain cards, or if that fails, a full hand mulligan to 7.
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>>55364808
That card causes problems because drawing 2 cards for free (that is, "free" relative to the total number of cards in your hand, on the field, and in your graveyard) in Yugioh is busted and can swing the course of a game. Pot of Greed is banned for a reason, and the card in question is just Pot of Greed with an arguably negligible drawback. The self-mill has nothing to do with it, except that it perhaps isn't enough of a cost to justify running the card.
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>>55365905
I'm retarded. "Isn't enough of a cost to justify how powerful the card is."
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>>55365765
If your opening hand doesn't do anything. If you have no line of play, mull until you get one. That means having the cards and the lands/rocks/ramp needed to play them. And obviously, if your general provides you with a viable course of action, then you just need the mana to play it.
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>>55365928
I tend to go with "have some presence by turn 2/3" depending on how fast things are.
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Tappedout or deckstats? I want to stick with a one account on a single site
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>>55366187
Tappedout
>>
Let's say my storm count is 7.

I cast Ignite Memories
With Ignite Memories on the stack, I cast Fork, targeting Ignite Memories.

How many copies do I get?
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>>55366268
Storm triggers off of Cast, so the copy you get from Fork doesn't create its own set of Storm Copies.
>Cast Ignite with SC:7
7 copies here
>Cast Fork on Ignite
1 additional copy
8 copies with 9 total resolutions of Ignite
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>>55366338
Thanks.
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>>55361208
Meh, Progenitus is bigger.
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>buddy named is trying to sell cards to pay for college tuition
>has two damaged cryptic commands
>they're literally only sleeve playable
>I look up the damaged price, 22ea
>i offer 45 for both
>he says "cryptics are 35 on scg"
>i laugh and say "yeah at near mint"
>"70 or no deal"
>pull out 40 and put it on the table and say "40, or i'm walking away and won't buy the other 30 dollars worth of cards from your collection"
>walks away

>weeks later
>he's begging me to buy the cryptics for 40
>"no way, jose"
>mfw he gets bootyblasted

God, I really hate it when people think they can get max value for shit condition cards.
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>>55363861
>Red
>BR I guess, or anything including that combination. UR is a close second.
>Green
>Probably Zombies
>Time Spiral
>New Phyrexia
>Using my library as a ressource
>Sex in the missionary position for recreative purpose
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>>55362830
you sound like a total cunt, kys.
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>>55363861
>Favorite color to play?
Green.
>Favorite color combination?
Rakdos.
>Least favorite color to play?
White.
>Favorite tribal?
Elemental.
>Favorite block mechanically?
Time Spiral.
>Favorite block aesthetically?
Kaladesh.
>Favorite janky mechanic?
Monstrous.
>Favorite kink/fetish?
Teasing.
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>>55361343
She's another haste enabler in Ur-Dragon along with her smaller version.
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>>55362830
I agree with >>55366532
You're an awful teacher.
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>>55366544
Actually scratch that, forgot mini-Kolaghan doesn't give anyone haste.
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>>55363861
Probably green
Simic
White
Goblins or Elves
Onslaught (come on, STORM)
I really like Masques aethestics
Does Vial-Smashers ability count? Otherwise, I love punisher cards.
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>>55363861
>Favorite color to play?
Black
>Favorite color combination?
Abzan
>Least favorite color to play?
Blue
>Favorite tribal?
Soldier
>Favorite block mechanically?
Ravnica
>Favorite block aesthetically?
Theros
>Favorite janky mechanic?
Delirium in pauper]/spoiler]
>Favorite kink/fetish?
BDSM. I'm in dom-sub threesome relationship for 3 years now
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>>55363861
>Favorite color to play?
Black
>Favorite color combination?
Black/Green
>Least favorite color to play?
Red
>Favorite tribal?
Zombies
>Favorite block mechanically?
Innistrad
>Favorite block aesthetically?
More specifically, new phyrexia
>Favorite janky mechanic?
Dredge
>Favorite kink/fetish?
Beast (animal on girl)
>>
So, apparently tappedout has instituted a 750 card limit on deck size. Anyone know how to bypass that, why it was added, or if there's any chance of it going away?
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>>55363861
>Favorite color to play?
Blue
>Favorite color combination?
Esper
>Least favorite color to play?
Green
>Favorite tribal?
Wrath tribal or MLD tribal.
>Favorite block mechanically?
Time Spiral
>Favorite block aesthetically?
Ice Age
>Favorite janky mechanic?
Banding
>Favorite kink/fetish?
Femdom, Mind Control
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>>55366433
>buddy named is

You should never trust people with lowercase, two-letter names.
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>>55363562
How big is your wallet? Because colorless EDH is gonna cost you a shitload to even make functional.
>>
is there any reason not to play sol ring, grim monolith, mana vault, mana crypt, temple of the false god, and ancient temple in every deck?
>>
I want to build a zombie tribal with either Gisa or G&G as the commander. How do they play compared to each other, and which one do you think is the most fun to play?
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>>55366743
the cost
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>>55366701
fucking a. his name is jose.
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>>55366743
Temple is unreliable. Ancient Temple isn't a card.
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>>55363861
Grixis, with artifact shenanigans
Pregnancy / hyper pregnancy
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>>55366743
>Sol Ring in every deck
Duh.
>Mana vault in every deck
If you have no shenanigains for it, it's marginal, but it's still mana positive so generally you should strongly consider running it.
>Grim Monolith in every deck
As above, but since you can untap it at any time it's far better. At 50 bucks last I checked, though, it's the sort of card that will overrun a budget real quick.
>Mana Crypt in every deck
The only concern here is budgetary, but that is a concern.
>Ancient tomb in every deck
At 3+ colors it becomes a little shaky. Never a truly bad include, but not an auto-include either. Depends on what the rest of your mana base looks like. Also, budget
>Temple of the False God in every deck
If you're not land ramping, Temple is a trap. As such it should generally only be played in decks that include green.
>>
Ok, what are the mana auto-includes if I'm playing on xmage and budget is no concern?
>>
>>55364301
Of that 5%, a good 5/6ths are enchantment hate. Pull the other one.
>Heroic
>Not being one of the biggest examples of a mechanic that Development ruined
Dude, seriously. Stop defending this train wreck of a block. The lore was cool and the story was decent compared to JaceFest 2012, but mechanically the block was hot garbage.
>>
>>55366927
Ring and Crypt. Grim if you're in 3 colors or fewer or have untap tricks. Vault under similar circumstances. After that it depends on colors. Generally you want all applicable signets. Lands start with all the ABUR duals, shocks, and fetches you can run then grow out from there.
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>>55354107
P-post pics please senpai?
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can anyone recommend some good EDH podcasts? the command zone just isnt doing it for me anymore, feel like they talk about the same shit every time
>>
>>55366959
>a good 5/6ths are enchantment hate

I actually intentionally excluded enchantment hate.
>>
>>55366959
I really liked the flavor of putting Ordeals on Heroic creatures.
>>
>>55367012
I know that feel. I pretty much only watch them for Game Knights videos now because I like their editing and they (used to) play with a variety of different commanders. Now all they do is precon or stuff from the newest set though.
>>
>>55361208
>What opportunities do you lament WotC missing or squandering?
both UR partners are butt
but at least one is a hastey body
>>
>>55361273
Considering how much of an infinite combo piece it proves to be, I wouldn't bet on it.
>>
>>55367012
MTG is too small and too spergy to have good fan content. I tried some podcasts and they got grating so quickly.

No good webcomics, no good videos, no good streamers, no good fanart, no good podcasts.
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>>55367102
>the aether revolt episode where jimmy destroyed his own lands
I had me a good laugh
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>>55364579
shut up wingmate roc is my favorite card

just
just shut up!
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>>55367187
>tfw begrudgingly watching that horrible youtube sitcom
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>>55367187
Filthy casuals....
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>>55364268
I think you mean Tarkir, anon.
>>
>>55367102
>Now all they do is precon or stuff from the newest set though.
thats cause its literally a WotC commercial, jimmy and josh care more about sponsors and money than they do content
>>
>>55363861
>>Favorite color to play?
White
>>Favorite color combination?
Bant
>>Least favorite color to play?
Black
>>Favorite tribal?
Human
>>Favorite block mechanically?
Khans (sure standard sucked but delve was so much fun)
>>Favorite block aesthetically?
Theros
>>Favorite janky mechanic?
flanking
>>Favorite kink/fetish?
khazar milkers
>>
>>55364789
Terrible new players actually do hate self mill but they are the bottom of the barrel most casual players.

If you ever play with an idiot that is new to the game you'll see that they consider milling to be a way of destroying cards and to them Traumatize is overpowered. They get angry if someone mills a card they wanted to draw.
>>
>>55361208
>What opportunities do you lament WotC missing or squandering?
Every commander product ever.
>>
>>55366743
>Mana Crypt
It could end up killing you if you put it in a very slow deck.
>>
>>55363873
Wherever that Anon is now, I appreciate him.
>>
>>55367012
I used to listen to one called Off Color Cast and it was the best I've heard. Current EDH podcasts seem to be all autists making competitve decks.
>>
>>55363558
its not a legal thing, the RL isnt a legally binding contract and anyone who tries to tell you otherwise is either a fucking retard or an investor trying to scare you/wotc into never questioning it
>>
>>55363654
>It is a legal thing, that's why they backed down. They made what counts as a legally binding contract with all of their buyers that cards on the Reserved List would never be reprinted. So technically speaking if they decide to say "Fuck the reserved list." and reprint things like the OG Duals and the Power Nine, collectors could sue them for breach of contract. They had a situation where they could have forced the issue back in 2009 with the collectors edition Karn, but they didn't and now just kind of pretend that those cards and the formats that they are played in don't exist.
You are a fucking moron.
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>>55367012
The command zone stopped being good about a month ago.
>>
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Will this see any amount of consistent Commander play?

http://mythicspoiler.com/ixa/cards/fieldofruin.html
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>>55367204
>tfw LRR didnt used to be so bad
>tfw they clearly give karen or whatever her bitch face name is a more prominent writing role
>tfw its now about 95% cringe when previously it was about 50-50
I feel bad for anyone associated with that shitshow
>>
>>55367434
No, except in group hug decks. As is it'll ramp 2 players by one at no cost.
>>
>>55367434
Maybe in duel commander
>>
>>55367224
every fucking mtg youtuber starts/ends the video by sucking off their sponsors and patreons for a good two minutes, they could do that shit more subtle.
>>
>>55367556
>>55367556
>>55367556
>>
>>55367551
>two minutes
quite literally half of the command zone is sucking off sponsors and patreon. i forget which one it was but an episode a few weeks back was 55ish minutes and 20 minutes of it wa talking about card kingdom and ultra pro
>>
>>55367434
Just play Strip Mine and Wasteland like a man.
>>
>>55361395
look at the EDHREC and get whatever is within your budget.
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>>55361497
but Sword of the Animist still procs even if you attack the planeswalker. It procs when the equipped creature attacks, not when it does damage to a player. It says it on the card. Why did you let him get away with that shit?
>>
>>55366433
Lol what a fag
>>
>>55363861

>Favorite color to play?
Blue
>Favorite color combination?
Naya
>Least favorite color to play?
Black
>Favorite tribal?
Faeries
>Favorite block mechanically?
Innistrad
>Favorite block aesthetically?
Legends
>Favorite janky mechanic?
Cycling
>Favorite kink/fetish?
Sleep stuff
>>
>>55363474
You know that core sets are coming back, right?
>>
>>55363861
>Favorite color to play?
U
>Favorite color combination?
URG
>Least favorite color to play?
W
>Favorite tribal?
Faeries
>Favorite block mechanically?
Tarkir
>Favorite block aesthetically?
Kamigawa
>Favorite janky mechanic?
Forecast
>Favorite kink/fetish?
vore
>>
>>55364738
Colorado Springs, Colorado
i used to go to Petrie's, but the casual group started splintering off after the shop had to move location, now I think the old guys moved elsewhere and the young guys just got absorbed into standard

>>55364669
just have nothing, literally nothing sponsored by the store so that nobody plays a set format, but then again, there is guarantee it will work.
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