Warhammer 40.000 General /40kg/

>>55350601
>crimson slaughter
Literally who?

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>£25 for a digital copy for a codex

what in the fuck

>>55350630
>selling digital products have operating costs and overheads too
What the fuck

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>£85
>He's not even fuckhuge

I can't wait for the 2018 crash

Why GW deleted year dates from codieces timelines?
This fucking sucks for lore fans.
And I will not buy Primaris.

>>55350630
What are you talking about? It's available for free right there in the OP, dummy.

DG leak when?

(Not a poorfag, already ordered the book, just impatient)

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>>55350664
Just what a poorfag WOULD say...

>>55350644
Oh fuck off you fucking shill. Ebook prices margins are famously obscene, even before you factor in gw gouging.

>>55350664
Gimme 4 days or so and I'll have the epub up.

>>55350701
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>>55350701
Uh oh he's back. Didn't you get your fill in that Death Guard thread a few days ago

>>55350601
Man, why didn't they have that piece of art on the Dark Vengeance box.

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these GW prices are making me want to become a commie

>>55350701
>Implying 25£ is expensive

>>55350701
I'm sure it doesn't cost money to do the artwork, write the rules (which includes the writers themselves, internal balancers, playtesters etc.) write the lore, take stock photography of miniatures (which includes the painters o the miniatures too), organize the book in a coherent format and then create the digital epub version of it that also uses interactive technology. This is just for the digital version. The costs for the physical are even higher.

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>>55350701
Holy shit, THAT's true.

>hardcover novel release: 25 bucks
>ebook release: 20 bucks

>paperback novel release: 9 bucks
>ebook release: 7 bucks
shills will defend this.

>>55350664
exactly that. Gonna get the book and the goofy dice and, as soon as they come out, some of the roomba engines, but fuck me I don't want to wait till Saturday to see the rules.

Especially after the miniwargaming morons gave a plague weapon to a Chaos Lord and now I want to know if I can actually get a Chaos Lord with Flail of Corruption or if that was the usual mwg retardation again

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Sisters will get a great codex in 2018. I believe.

>>55350701
It's also £20 not £25, you blind fuck.

>>55350782
Then don't buy it.

They can sell what they make for whatever price they want.

>>55350782
Just wanted to let you know that the paper used for the book is hardly the most expensive part of the operation.

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>gets 5 burgerbuck coffee every morning
>goes to art classes for 2 hours
>stops by his feminist club to talk about setting up another cry group
>gets another 5 burger coffee

>"I cant afford my hobby wtf?? GW must be fucking capitalist pigs"

>>55350759
For a 40mb file? Yeah, it is. They bloat the cost by putting all the stupid artwork in it even though they know full well that people only want ebook releases for the rules.
And, as we know from AoS, you can make the rules available for free and people will still buy the big books.

>>55350809
>stop making things look nice, i want them to look like shit
>i have no interest in this therefore everyone else has no interest in it too
Plebeians who don't understand basic marketing are hilarious.

>>55350660
But anon the new sm codex still has a whole list of dates in it?

>>55350783
fuck the codex, we have good rules already
give me plastic instead

>>55350802
What I mean is that, sure, a hardcover novel is far more expensive than a paperback novel, that's nothing new, that's why in Germany fantasy novels are traditionally hardcover only because "them wacky nerds buy everything", but why the fuck is the ebook of a hardcover novel three times as expensive as the ebook of a paperback novel?

>>55350800
And I won't. But it disgusts me that there are actually people who defend it.

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>>55350782
God those little roombas are so cute.

>the usual mwg retardation again
Sounds about right, though I hope they are right.

I'm surprised people still watch them though. Not trying to start a shitstorm or anything but I thought people would have stopped once they realised they got rules wrong in every single video.

>>55350782
Muh over 9000 percent prophet margins. Go masturbate into the abstract of your lawsuit, faggot.

>>55350809
Bahahah.

Is this bait?

>>55350819
Thank you for admitting that you don't even read posts you reply to.

>>55350834
Range of reasons include
>hardcover novels are often by more renowned writers who demand higher pay
>hardcover novels are reserved for bigger releases and more "important" events in the lore, therefore the price is higher to maximize profit margin
>hardcover novels tend to be longer in length, therefore taking more time to write, meaning higher pay
Correlation does not equal causation

>>55350834
Welcome to capitalism. Prices are usually more about what the market will bear than the costs of production. GW is hardly alone in this.

>>55350846
I mostly watch them because they are part of a tiny selection of people who get review copies of codizes and they are some of the few who show you more than just the artwork, like those scumbags from BolS.

>>55350657
How many burgers is he?

>>55350857
>people only want ebook releases for the rules
Which is more or less what I was targeting. Your point?

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Why are poorfags so loud? Is it really that hard for them to quit their jobs at Burger Boys and get a respectable job? Why not put your hobby on pause while at University?

>>55350834
Because they can charge that much money for it and people will buy it. There are people who buy both the hardback and the ebook because they want the convenience of both.

This hobby attracts people with lots of disposable income and GW certainly doesn't do anything to discourage people spending it.

On the other hand, all hobbies are expensive. The largely convinced that the reason so many people complain about GW's prices is because they've transitioned into wargaming from video games which, in the grand scheme of things, aren't that expensive a hobby.

>>55350878
140

>>55350824
Now you have a list of undated events.

>>55350863
That's bullshit and you know it. Hardcovers are an expensive first release to extract maximum value from less price conscious early adopters before putting out the cheaper mass market paperback to capture additional price sensitive consumers.

>>55350863
The first I accept, that's true enough, that's also the reason Jim Butcher can get away with not publishing a book in three years, the second certainly, but the third is pure bullshit. Compare for example, Kate Griffin's A Madness of Angels and Ben Aaronovitch's Rivers of London. Griffin's novel is twice the length and a third of the price.

>>55350804
I think the worst is that they come on here and bitch about prices, as if any of us have any control over how much gw charges for plastic crack, instead of just shutting the fuck up and buying chinaman or fucking off from the hobby altogether.

>>55350846
Kinda unavoidable when people are trying to scrape every possible source for new release information.

>>55350921
You know that's the general strategy that is adopted in all situations of selling books right? That you didn't really change my point at all?

So did any real fluff come of Konor? Because I sure as hell haven't seen shit beyond a few short pre-game scenario descriptions.

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>>55350601

You spelt Red Corsairs wrong.

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>>55350783
I hope the codex is called "Ecclesiarchy" rather than "Adeptus Ministorum".

>>55350950
Only the results for each planet, and what can be inferred for the overall sector. Here's an archive of all the posts.

https://warhammer40000.com/vox-chatter/

Is the Ynarri spell Ancestors Grace the only way to get reroll 1s for Harlequins?

>>55350950
Nope. And nothing ever will. Look at AoS' summer campaign, where Nurgle was thoroughly trounced, like Order getting 70% of the wins and most of the rest going to Death and Destruction and yet the next big thing in AoS is STILL a big Nurgle vs Everyone Else event.
And Konor will not be any different. That's why they picked an irrelevant backwater star system after all

>>55350966
I believe that's the case, yes.

>>55350965

So it was all a huge waste of time then? I can't get invested in a narrative campaign with no damn narrative.

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>>55350601
>Crimson slaughter a best, fuck legions.

Literal whos with a non-existant fanbase

>>55350892
I used to play Mtg. I bitched about prices as they were rising. I no longer play MTG because the prices are insane.
I still keep up with the releases, watch tournaments streamed, etc.
Sometimes I go into mtg threads to talk about how expensive it is.
They get butt blasted.
You can be interested in something and bitch about the price but not play.

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Hi I play Orks, what do you play

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>>55346301
>>55346307
Kromlech IS pretty based. Ordered bits from 4 separate sites including GW and Kromlechs arrived way before the others

Over 2 weeks and still waiting for Puppetswar to ship my fucking shoulderpads REEEEEE

>>55350906
Holy fuck, is that more expensive than Magnus?

>>55351017
Konor as an event will live on in the fluff, just as the Third War for Armageddon did. But since the Imperium won again all you'll really see is "Nurgle invaded, but them status quo." For things to get really shaken up Chaos would have had to win.

>>55351017
I expect we'll see a proper conclusion written up in the next week or so, but who can say?

>>55351051
Dark Eldar. I have Marines, Chaos Marines, Daemons and Orks all in varying levels of assembly and paint but I haven't played a game with them yet. Soon hopefull.

>>55351056
$10 more, yeah.

Kind of continuing on from last thread, do Iron Warriors respect each other at all?

Thinking of buying the Burning of Prospero box and converting Ahriman up to be a Dark Apostle but he's standing on the body of a MKIII Marine. If I painted that marine as a Iron Warrior would it be in character or out of character?

>>55351051
Tzeentch Daemonkin and Necrons

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What this could be?

>>55351077
Looks like the feather of a quill. Is that a purity seal as well?

>>55351051
Alpha Legion+renegades

>>55351071
I think at some level. Their whole schtick though is doing whatever it takes to win and seeing their comrades as disposable weapons to be used, so it'd work I think

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>>55351051
Nothing because my army isn't finished and i'm too autistic to show up to a game with unpainted models

>>55351077
Looks like a feather, and I think I can see something that looks like parchment.
Must be for a scribe model or something of the sort.

How many dudes with shields should I have in my deathwing squads? I was thinking of just one but I'd like some input from a fellow DAfag

>>55351077
quill and parchment

>>55351111
What a waste of quads

>>55351051
Started with Tau, got into DG via dark imperium.

Trying to main DG now because god the Tau playstyle has been getting worse ever sense I got in.

>>55351052
Mad Robot, Blood and Skulls Industry, and Anvil Industry have all been great to me too, highly recommend them. Actually got the bits to tac out my Primaris Raven Guard before I got my actual Primaris models.

>>55350601
I have a feeling that this next forge world is going to have all infantry units get free assault on all weapons.

>>55350863
>Believing publisher bullshit like a penis: The post

>>55351133
Die CIA nigger

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>>55351077
HURR HURR TO COMMEMORATE OUR NEW ARMYMAKER APP® HERE IS A LIMTED EDITION REMEMBRANCER SCRIBE OF BATTLE MODEL

>>55351157
>>>/x/

>>55351111
They glow in the dark so you can just hit them with a car

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This is a reference to the Necromunda laspistol thing aint it?

>>55350804
Nice strawman faggot

>>55351162
Ayyy lmao

>>55351164
But sir, I'm on horse back wrangling up all my mighty herd of nigger cattle

>>55351077
Looks pretty obviously like a peacock feather

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>>55351167

Nah just straight up Rogue Trader IG.

>>55350782
The fuck is that thing?

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>>55351150
Seconding Anvil Industries as being good people. Their Regiments range is particularly nice and it's still growing.

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>>55351167
think it's just this

>>55351199
It's the Little Daemon Engine That Could.

>>55351199
Maulerfiend and Forgefiend's stinky little brother.

Fellow Orkbros, how do you feel about the Squiggoth? I'm looking to keep my army mobilized and transport bricks of Boyz and Nobz, and without the glory of Looted Wagons being around, and trukks feeling pretty lame this edition. I'm looking to alternatives for killy transports.

>>55350896
You can think that all you like, doesn't make you any less wrong, or retarded. I've been playing since 89 and I think the prices are fucking ridiculous because they are fucking ridiculous. I understand 100% the concept of disposable income and the fallacy of price tag equalling quality, and I can't fault gw as a business in business, but cunt try and tell this is about hidden cost or perceived value. It's exploitation of a fanbase and their attachment to an ip that bears less and less resemblance to its origins with every passing release.

>>55351197
Also good for Eldar lasblaster.

>>55351077

a very hairy vagina

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>>55351056
He's a big guy.

>>55351071
You'd be better off buying the betrayal at calth set and actually getting a dark apostle.

>>55351077
Specific Tally man character??

>>55351219
the regular squiggoth is absolute shit, way fucking overcosted. The Gargantuan Squiggoth is better but that nearly doubles the points and you cant have multiple. Would just recommend Battlewagons, Big Trakks, or Weirdboyz

t. Ork player who just bought two from CHINA

>>55351030
so you actually enjoy bitching about something that no one can change, in a way that annoys people?

like, you legit get off on being the definition of a troll?

>>55351217
>>55351207
Please tell me it's a conversion.

>>55351243
Nope. It's called a blight hauler.

So in 6/7th I build 2 units to count as Mega/Meka-dreads.

Should I even bother looking at their 8th rules, or just leave them in the shelf and save myself the disappointment.

>>55351183
that's a little unfair, I don't go to art classes. But you're right in so far as the cost is a philosophical issue rather than a practical one

>>55351243
Do you live under a rock fucktard?

>>55350804
>>55351168
>>55351183
Ouch.

>>55351183
Not the person you're trying so poorly to outwit, but I don't think you understand what a strawman is.

News on the returning primarchs?

Nurgle is pretty much the only force to kinda fit GWs "more detail = more better" design philosophy ... and even then they are pushing it.

>>55351243
What's wrong with it?

>>55351258
So edgy.

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>>55351253
There are no MegaDreads, FW talked about getting them rules at some point

>>55351267
Next is Angron or fulgrim. I forget the order.

>>55351231
But anon, then I'd be getting the MKIV armour instead of the MKIII. You can make an Iron Warriors army with everyone wearing MKIV but that's like ordering an ice-cream without sprinkles or potato cakes without chicken salt.

>>55351230
Not for Magnus.

>>55351279
Sanguinus us back?

>>55351282
....... what's chicken salt?

60 bucks for 3 Deathshroud.

fucking hell.

Looks like I'll be buying the forgeworld ones.

>>55351267
Nothing official.

>>55351051
Tyranids, CSM, Dark Eldar, Orks, Tau, Renegades, Space Marines. In this order

With the new SoB/Ecclesiarchy releases next year and Slaneeshmas coming, what else are you hoping to see? Personally I am expecting Necromunda expansions.

>Adeptus Mechanicus armies benefit from a powerful forge world dogma – equivalent to Legion Traits or Chapter Tactics – which apply to every unit in an Adeptus Mechanicus army, not just your infantry!

If one of the Forge Tactics is just a Ravin' Guard clone like the rumours say, this might mean it works on vehicles too. Dragoons would join the long list of things that Orks can't even hit, and Kastelans would brutally punish trying to plasma them as a sixth of the guns explode and another third of the saves cause Mortal Wounds back.

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>>55351302
Seasoning that makes things taste more chicken-like.

You put on stuff that's made of potato mostly, so hot chips, potato cakes, etc.

Might just be an Aussie thing I guess.

>>55351267
Jonson, Fulgrim, Grimnar, Angron

>>55351327
source? or just a guess?

>>55351310
ORKS. hopefully a buggy/wartrak replacement, god knows they need new models

>>55351323
>Might just be an Aussie thing I guess.

It is. Its great though.

>>55351306

But those look like shit?

>>55351306
That'll be like 100 ozbux. Well there goes my plan to get into DG. I can get a start collecting box for 20 bucks more.

>>55351249
Exactly how many units are they giving DG?

>>55351258
You got a problem with that?

>>55351336
meant to reply to >>55351313

>>55351313
>With the new SoB/Ecclesiarchy releases next year and Slaneeshmas coming, what else are you hoping to see?

I admire your optimism

Honestly I've got so much damn stuff to paint that I'm not too worried about future releases, but if I had the option to choose I'd like new Eldar Aspect Warrior kits.

>>55351323
huh that's new, I'm gonna go find an Aussie store and get some

Would you judge someone if they stuck a FW morty on a 100mm and used it as the daemon prince?

>>55351337
>Burgermen will never get offered if they want chicken salt when they buy fish and chips

I'm not sure if this makes up for the fact that we have to pay an extra 20% for our models but I'll take every luxury we get.

>>55351313
what this monkey said >>55351336
and hopefully better rules for them, always thought they needed to fire quadruple the amount they do and be fragile as paper

>>55351346
We just dont want you to have back problems develop from being under it all the time

>>55351335
Seems logical. They're filling up the Chaos pantheon and Fulgrim is the next step given all the fluff and rumormongering, we've already seen teasers for Jonson so we know he's getting made.
The other two are just basic logic desu.

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So what is the best Space Marines chapter and why is it Salamanders?

>>55351358
Yes. the model is ugly

>>55351272
Is GW actually going to make every legion their own faction with all of their own models? Will they get their own Rhinos (Plaguecarts) and Land Raiders (Poxraiders) as well?

>>55351335
Absolutely anything people post about upcoming Primarchs are just guesses. There is zero information, not even rumors.

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I've all but given up on plastic SOB at this point. Better to just convert Sisters of Silence and make a faction of fur cloak-wearing Sisters with archaic bolters from an icy deathworld.

>>55351372
Imagine being this much in denial.
>>55351376
They're coming out next year you cunt.

>>55351368
Man, if you dont know shit about what happening, sit down and shut up, jesus

>>55351381
Source?

>>55351376
cuck
just play a different army until they get a new line

>>55351346
>Exactly how many units are they giving DG?

There's a bunch coming out. Those little scuttlebugs, a new artillery tank, two new types of Terminators ("regular"-ish ones and 3 man bodyguard melee unit), new Plague Marines with new weapons, and a spree of new characters (Tallyman and Not-Apothecary to name a couple).

Oh, and Mortarion.

>>55351363
Green iz da best!

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>>55351363
This is the actual best Chapter, but they're buds with the Salamanders who are also right up there in the rankings.

>>55351363
What are the Salamanders "child chapters" I blanking so fucking hard on what they're called I'm thinking about making one of them or just Salamanders after my Orks.

JUST FUCKING TELL ME ABOUT SALAMANDERS

>>55351368
No. They use standard issue Rhinos, Predators, Land Raiders, Defilers, Helbrutes, Possessed and others. You can see the models they share with CSM as they're already listed in the Death Guard section of the webstore.

>>55351230
He's actually only marginally bigger than Guilliman lmao

>>55351230
When's Fulrim coming out? He needs to finish the job properly.

>>55351387
his ass

>>55351381
GW doing Angron and Fulgrim is logical. But it IS pure speculation at this point.

>>55351387
Do you not come to this thread very often or are you just acting a fool to get my goat?

>>55351327
>grimnar
Fail

>>55351401
Successor chapters, Anon. Successor.

>>55351413
not that anon, but I've been absent from /40kg/ for a while. what is the news?

>>55351401
>child chapters

Once, while DMing I totally blanked on the word "teenager" while describing a young prince, and instead called him a "...man... child".

The word you wanted was Successor, and there aren't any official Salamanders ones, but its strongly implied the Black Dragons and Fire Lords are from their stock.

>>55351408
Next Christmas along with Chaos Primaris, new Fabius Bile, Doomrider, Noise Marines (Kakophonii) and Lucius the Eternal.

>>55351376
I've yet to see convincing SoB from SoS conversions.

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>>55351417
>>55351420
Jesus Christ thank you

>>55351104
>Too autistic
>Read: too considerate of your opponent with painted models while using painted terrain.
You're a good hobbyist, sit down to do the work and you will get there.

>>55351392
It's for a SW:A kill team faggot. Like I'd invest in converting an entire fucking army.

>>55351413
see >>55351409

>>55351420
Wait the wiki says Fire Lords are Imperial Fist successors

>>55351401
I don't think Salamanders have and "confirmed" successors but the Ultima founding gives players the opportunity to create successors for any of the loyalist legions. Also it doesn't say anywhere that the Salamanders are refusing to pay their gene-seed tithes so it's probable that they have successors and just don't know who they are

CODEX MECHANICUS WHEN

>>55350998
>Order getting 70% of the wins and most of the rest going to Death and Destruction

Shut up, Chaos was a strong second in Season of War. And fluff has come from the Order wins.

>tfw you will never write character as cool and unique as Khayon is

:(

>>55351470
what the fuck are you going on about you retarded nigger
I never told you to convert shit, just that you should play something else if you don't want to use metal models

>>55351473
I must be thinking of someone else then... Maybe the Dragon (somethings), a Chaos Warband?

>>55351488
khayon is shit

>>55351488
I certainly hope not, Khayon isn't very cool or unique. If I write something of that level I've made a mistake.

>>55351476
Salamanders took a big hit and that's why there aren't as many apparently.

Black Dragons are rumored to be though, but modified a lot.

>>55351483
End of the month, homo. I'm waiting for it too. Likely to be disappointed, we are. Cawl will still be the best possible choice so we'll be Mars-locked, which is mega butts. Doctrina Imperatives will never return, and our canticles will still half-suck.

>>55351498
Dragon Warriors are the Chaos Warband that is partly fallen Salamanders.

>>55351488
>>>/lgbt/ is the other way Carnac

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>>55351363
Star Phantoms.

>>55351483
Saturday/Next Saturday.

>>55351473
>>55351498
Storm Giants are the one you're thinking of.

>>55351483
Literally this Saturday for Pre-Orders, so 12 days away.

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>>55351363
Ultramarines.

>>55351401
They don't have many. Black Dragons (horny guys) and Storm Giants, neither of which are officially recognized by Salamanders.

>>55351541
The door is that way, Matt

>>55351489
There's not going to BE a new line in 2018 you fucking deluded piece of shit.
Plastic SoB are a fucking meme and I'd rather convert than play with metal models.

>>55350657
>a pistol
What is this nonsense? 40k Daemon Primarchs should be full-on Daemon, shitting magical death rays everywhere.

>>55351306
That combined with this retarded 1 model a week release schedule is bad news.

I think GW blew their load to early this year. And all they have til 2018 is Death Guard, necromunda, and 2 or 3 no-new-model codexes.

Because of that they're trying to stretch out the DG release as long as can be. my bets are on 5 weeks straight.

>>55351557
>Majority of fluff pre and post Ward

They're just canonically the best, deal with it.

>>55351567
Why can't a daemon use a gun?

>>55351567
>thinks Morty would ever go full daemon
Kys, you're missing his entire shtick.

>>55351567
The Lantern is pretty famous.

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Quick, which head do I put on my Minotaurs Captain in Gravis armor - "What a Lovely War" or not!Ron Perlman?

>>55351593
Lovely war.

>>55351593
Go with !Ron.

>>55351588
Yeah yeah we get it, go back to masturbating to Be'lacuck on >>>/lgbt/

>>55351593
If you're going for a comical tone, then shades guy, else Perlman.

>>55351583
Eh, I guess things have changed. Back in Epic the Daemon Primarchs were daemons and looked nothing like marines anymore.

brb killing self

>>55351614
Asuryani get their codex by November.

>>55351614
Truly the greatest of times

Anyone else notice the monthly paymennt plan option on GWs site?

So far it just leads to a "Unavailable, but thank you for expressing intrest. "

>>55351618
>no it is you that is the fag, but like, literally.

Both of you, but mostly you, kys.

>>55351593
I want Ron Perlman and Travis Bickle in my army.

>>55351659
Kek

>>55351653
>he doesn't know that Carnac is a self-admitted faggot
Get with the times newfrienderino
>>55351659
You forgot your Cheetah, fake Cheetahfag

>>55351563
I never said there would be a new line in 2018 you inbred motherfucker
I'm not at all surprised that FASD has fucked your head beyond repair but how about you at least try to brush up on your reading comprehension before you start slobbering all over your keyboard
I'll repeat myself so you can have another shot at understanding me. You might not have passed grade school but the sentence is very simple.
"play something else until they get a new line"
Where in there do you read "2018"?
Will they get new minis some day? Maybe, quite possibly. When? Fuck if I know, 2022, 2020, 3090. Play something else or fuck off

>>55351614
>>55351659
Aeldari is 3+ armies. Be more specific.

>>55351646
>GW might offer credit plans
>WAACfag buys a new OP on credit
>barely gets it built before GW release an FAQ that nerfs it into oblivion
>WAAC has a useless army that he has to pay off for a year
>every forum is in flames with goodgoys raging
Post yfw this kills the WAACfag

>>55351679
Cheetahfag, you're the best

>>55351404
>marginally
>3x the height of guilliman

I'll bet you think your 2 inch micropenis is only marginally smaller than the 9 inch dicks in porn.

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>Successors of....

Alright who did this, if you tell me now I wont get mad

>>55351695
Don't you wish

>>55351051
Admech and necrons, although I still need to paint my crons before getting them into battle.

What's the lore behind Malefic lords? I'm trying to gather an idea of what they'd look like so I could convert one for a friend.

>>55351512
Not necessarily. You'll probably get a thing to transform a Magos into a supermagos, sort of like how Spess Mehrines can change a Captain into a Chapter Master.

>>55351691
>3x the height
If you include his flying shit, yes. If you ignore all that he's more or less 1.5x of Guilliman. Sorry if your Primarch had to compensate for his manlet height with his oversized meme scythe.

>>55351704
You are retarded

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/12/forge-world-focus-graia-sep-12gw-homepage-post-4/

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/12/forge-world-focus-graia-sep-12gw-homepage-post-4/

>can fire assault weapons in close combat
Neat

>>55351681
Win/Win

>>55351679
Is this some kind of drunken fist shitposting or something?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/31/breaking-news-studio-preview-from-the-nova-open/

Graian focus is up.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/12/forge-world-focus-graia-sep-12gw-homepage-post-4/

On a 6+ they don't die, either from being shot or from Morale, but if all their characters die they can't Fall Generic Stratagem is two Fight phases for Fulgurites, 3CP.

>>55351734
>phone posters
like clockwork

>>55351734
Phoneposting dirt-souled tripple nigger

>>55351727
>>55351728
>>55351731
>>55351738
Jesus

>>55351704
It's literally true. Dragon Warriors was the name they had before they found Vulkan.

>>55351734
I see you're not using wifi to have separate IPs

>>55351720
is the flying shit not part of the model?

also
>your primarch
try again kiddo.

>>55351230
That nightbringer saddens me, updated models when?

>>55351727
>>55351728
>>55351731
>>55351738
That fucking warlord trait is insane

>>55351753
#3 is a seperate subject

>>55350783
Oh come the fuck on Sobfags. We're in September, at least wait till October before you start the same fucking rumour again.

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Will GW's success continue when the sales of 8th are factored in?

>>55351727
>This dogma is great on single wound models, essentially providing them with an additional layer of saving throws, while for high-points cost models, the potential to ignore a potentially fatal wound and keep fighting is very handy indeed. Nearly every unit in the Adeptus Mechanicus codex also possesses a 6+ invulnerable save, meaning that you could be ignoring a third of wounds.

THAT'S NOT HOW STATISTICS WORK GW

>>55351759
>more than one person thinks I'm a fag! Impossible!

>>55351760
I was comparing the height of Mortarion himself to the height of Guilliman on a head to head comparison, not the height of his model.

>>55351768
Their tears always get me at least half hard

>>55351763
HA HA TIME FOR POINT BLANK PLASMA

AND FEEL NO PAIN AGAINST MORALE CASUALTIES

>>55351763
Combine it with Vanguard's -1T aura and you're in for a fun time. Now wounding MEQ on 4s, guardsmen on 3s.

>>55351763
Not really? It's really good but situational.

>>55351768
but he is talking about a codex, not minis
and GW is pushing codices out at a pretty good pace

>>55351633
I dont know what that means.
Is that Craftworld, Adarkis or Ynnari?

>>55351763
The really funny thing is that if they get any more plasma, they'll be one of the few armies to get a save from the gets hot.

>>55351778
fair

>>55351791
Wow, you managed to spell faggot three different ways

>>55351051
Blood Ravens (undecided on preferred chapter tactics) and Death Guard.

>>55351738
Makes me curious if Metalica is actually 6+ FNP also as rumored. Seems unlikely to me now.

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So am I the only person here who noticed that they're following the same chapter/legion formula for the mechanicus codex? That this might be making codexes a little homogeneous?

>>55351763
Not really, Admech isn't known for durability in assault. It'll get us a handful of rad shots, the odd plasma gun and maybe some stubbers, big deal. They're pretty much completely outclassed by Mars so far considering the Fulgurite thing is generic. Use that after slamming home a big blob and you could theoretically kill-consolidate-kill-tarpit two or even three units, although that's never going to happen with how slow they are.

>>55351775

Well, they ignore 30% in the first example, but after 3++ 5++ that only takes failed saves from 22% to 18.33%.

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These traits and strategms are getting nutty, scared for my Boyz....

>>55351728
>+1 to hit against buildings

wow its fucking nothing

>>55351827
Well, they said "Relentless". Either something akin to the Death Guard trait or a movement buff. Praying for the latter, we really do need it.

>>55350955
MY NIGGER!!!

>>55351834
I hope you get the most broken dex of the edition. I want retardedly OP orks dominating every table, and I don't even play them

>>55351831
yeah, it's shit how Mars is reroll morale and Graia is bonus vs buildings

>>55351775
(((100/6)*5)6)*5 = about 1/3. If suffering 100 wounds, 5++ wound save 33,3 guys, two 6+ saves would save 30,5 guys. In-game its almost the same thing.

>>55351808
And GW seems to be inventing new words for them all the time...

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My first model.

Thoughts?

>>55351846
Ah, I only heard about the rumors second hand from here. "Relentless" to me definitely says something more like the shooting penalty half of the Death Guard trait.

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>>55351051
Imperial Guard

>>55351775
isn't the chance of rolling a six on 2d6 30%ish? granted that's not exactly a third but it's pretty close

>>55351831
They've changed the formula to most don't get this extra bit of granularity for USRs to now they do. The rules are no less generic between factions to accomplish this.

A little tacked on? Sure.

More homogeneous? No, not really.

>GW's "math"

These are the people writing the rules.

>>55351593
Where do you buy the Ron head?

>>55351763
It's basically just gunline: the trait
"No need to melee at all, just keep shooting everything while in combot LOL."

>>55351861
Here you go, your reply

>>55351831
The only generic retread one so far is the Stygies rumor.

>>55351727
>>55351728

I'm cordially inviting all the whiny chaosfaggots who said all the faction traits would be copypastes of the vanilla SM ones to suck my balls.

>>55351848
I hope not we already have 2 waac ork players at my store.

>>55351848
Fuck no.
Nids can have that honour.
Bad rules bleeds the weak and undedicated players away.

>>55351363

>Best chapter
Astral Knights

>Best non-decimated chapter
Salamanders

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>>55351861
Ah, a Sunshine fan I see.

>>55351831
How? Very little of them are?

>>55351861
not at all distinguishable from other corkfag/slatefag models, like pottery

>>55351838
Elelrleololo zo phunneh cuz the guy yesterday didnt want bad rulz hehehehehe

>>55351827
No, that's what the article says Metallica are like. No idea what the rumours said about them specifically.

>>55351831
once DA roll around there's gonna be homo alright

>>55351888
You got the whole rumoured list?

>>55351919
Ayyyy

>>55351880
Mad Robot miniatures.

>>55351919
Top kek

Has anyone here ever bought from Victoria Miniatures? I'm interested in a few of their legs and heads, but they are a tad pricey and I'd like to know what I'm getting, quality-wise. Comparison shots would also be greatly appreciated.

I like how the Graia trait is actually worded to protect against plasma overheats.

>>55351919
100

>>55351920
Nope, just restating stuff I saw posted here last night.

>>55351943
Except they explicitly do, in fluff, have subfactions known for their different traits.

>>55351943
Hell, I'm pretty sure they all wore red before they became playable.

>>55351943
t. doesn't know shit about admech lore

>>55351958
Did they before they were implemented as a playable faction?

>>55351943
At the very least there have always been production specialties and differences in the "patterns" of gear produced at different Forgeworlds. They've never been carbon copies of each other.

>>55351811
thousand sons

>>55351943
>The mechanicicus
>Not ideologically divided in a hundred places in every context ever

Kek, I get that it's less relevant for some factions, but it's been in lore blurbs for ages, adding a few rules to make it so is a positive even when the implementation is mediocre and a tad recycled.

>>55351977
Off the top of my head I know Ryza has always been known as Plasma specialists at the very least.

>>55351943
>The Adeptus Mechanicus is a faction that's known for religiously following the same system.
That is like the furthest fucking thing from true.

The AdMech is known for being an immensely unbelievably convoluted and tangled web of feudal allegiances, multifaceted hierarchies, competing denominations and sects, with almost no consistent orthodox rules throughout. Every Forge World is practically its own unique empire with its own laws, variant beliefs, complex histories, and rivalries/alliances with other Forge Worlds.

>>55351567
In fairness his "pistol" is the size of a two handed weapon for any mere mortal.

>>55351977
Yes.

>>55351977
Yes you fucking idiot.

>>55351977
Yes, actually. Hell, they're actually LESS varied now. In the past, AdMech was known to be massively varied in their forms, with individual Magos building their forces very different.

Skitarii were almost NEVER depicted the same.

>>55351977
Yeah. Sons of Medusa Marines are the product of the Moirae Schism in the AdMech for example. That fluff predates their Codexes.

>>55351943
>I don't think it fits them very well to have subfactions
What? They have a zillion subcults and philosophies, schism every twenty minutes and frequently sic the Deathwatch on each other for being hereteks and it doesn't make sense for them to have subfactions? Half the fun of Admech is having ALL the scope for cool conversions and entertaining lore rather than just "Marine Successor #1294735".

>>55351965

Nah, there's white-robed (Lucius, probably)
Enginseers in Ciaphas Cain.

>>55351977

Yes. Lots of it, the whole plot of Forge of Mars is kicked off by inter-admech feuding and differences over methods. If anything, they're perhaps the most varied faction in the entire game's lore bar possibly the Guard.

>>55352000
that does make me wonder if people will remember to shoot his pistol even in combat
probably not, since its such an odd thing
Then again he probably wont be in a single combat longer than a round

>>55351977
Nope

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>>55351897
Let's be honest here, Xenos aren't going to be allowed to have the most powerful Codex. People still remember Taudar shenanigans, and GW is clearly pushing Marines of both flavors. At most, Nids/Orks will be elevated to bottom of top tier to make up for being near unplayable in the last couple of editions. Or maybe GW will overcorrect the uselessness of the Crons and give them the most broken rules by complete accident, hard to tell.

>>55351943
>The Adeptus Mechanicus is a faction that's known for religiously following the same system.
>I know nothing about ad mech lore: the post

>>55351567
>he wants them to release an iconic legendary character from the lore without his iconic legendary weapons
What a dumb faggot you are

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>>55351943
I'm mostly referring to the Faction/Subfaction format. The Adeptus Astartes is a faction that's known for religiously following the codex. I don't think it fits them very well to have subfactions. Especially considering that since they were added as a playable faction there weren't really differences in how different chapters fought their wars.

>>55352048
Subtle, verrrrry subtle

>>55351972
I'm not claiming to. I mean this wasn't even about that when I started this. I'm just trying to wrap my head around how they're going to keep this formula for every single faction. For Genestealer Cults I'm worried they'll shoehorn something half-baked into the canon just to give them the same scope as other factions when maybe they shouldn't have it. It plays into the broader idea that some factions, like the Tyranids, don't have a short list of major subfactions, but are endlessly varied and have no prominent variations to speak of. Like if they just say "This is Leviathan, and here's what Leviathan does" that's going to take away so much because it was set up to encourage homebrew tyranids to be played as random mutation of whatever fleet they want.

TL;DR This formula fits some factions better than others, regardless of whether or not it fits the Adeptus Mechanicus. That's all I was saying.

>>55352024
>Xenos aren't going to be allowed to have the most powerful Codex.
6e and 7e says otherwise.
Don't forget Phil "I wish I was an Eldar" Kelly still works at GW.

>>55352048
I was about to call you a faggot, then I saw the OTHER guy
close call there

>>55352048
>I'm mostly referring to the Faction/Subfaction format. The Astra Militarum is a faction that's known for religiously following the Imperial Creed. I don't think it fits them very well to have subfactions. Especially considering that since they were added as a playable faction there weren't really differences in how different regiments fought their wars.

>>55352065
GSC don't have a <sub-faction> tag. They won't get any sub-faction rules just as Grey Knights didn't.

>>55352024
I'll be eager to find out since my Ork army should be pretty complete by then, if I keep up my pace

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/12/forge-world-focus-graia-sep-12gw-homepage-post-4/

>>55352090
>slowpoke.png

>>55352090
We know bud. That shit was posted a minute after it was up.

>>55352065
I disagree on Nids. I like different Hive Fleets getting a different flavor beyond name and color scheme.

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>>55352090

>>55352088
Grey Knights makes me feel optimistic and you're probably right, but Grey Knights is, after all, just a subfaction of Space Marines, just like Death Guard/TSons are a subfaction of CSM. GW might view nids/GSC differently.

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>>55352114
Should've used this one

>>55352114
Image for next general

>>55352088
GK should have gotten Brotherhood tactics 2bh

>>55352089

Inb4 your faction trait is dogshit and you need to strip and repaint the whole army

>>55352123
Nids have the hive fleet tag so yeah they're getting sub-factions

>>55352123
No. It's about the tags. Nids will have sub-factions, GSC will not.

The Death Guard video proves that the models look fucking amazing with a darker colorscheme

>>55352129
Jesus fuck how many of these are there?

>>55352107
That's what I said. Or are you saying that your homebrew nids count as their own hive fleet? I wasn't saying anything against that, although now that you mention it that is a little grandiose for some homebrew nids.

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>>55352145
Many.
I didn't make them but I'vehad them for a while.

>>55352145
A lot. Anyone got the one of the slowpoke servitor?

>>55352145
>just now finding out that popular meme images have many edits
I don't have a slowpoke slow enough for this

>>55352151
Sorry I guess I lost the thread of your argument. I thought you were saying Nids were so varied that they shouldn't be locked into specific sub-factions.

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>>55352145
Still going.

>>55352114
>>55352129
>>55352157
>>55352171
Saved

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>>55352145
Another one

>>55351152
No, it's either 6+ FNP or -1 to hit from 12 inches away.

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>>55352145
Last one I have, I think.

>>55352192
We already have the 6+ FNP, and that assumes it will be a copy, given even this version of 6+ FNP is actually better than previous versions.

>>55352187
>>55352199
Thanks

>>55352137
>>55352138
And there you have it.

Nids are about to get the "The purple ones do this, and the red ones do this" treatment. I don't think they should. Nids are supposed to be endlessly varied, and this is going to pigeon-hole players into choosing from a small list of specific kinds just to compete. How about letting all nid players use all the nid rules so they can play how they please?

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Does a titan legion based on an agricultural world getting supplied from the forge world moon work? How much resources do those guys need/get if they're a major sized legio?

>>55352217
Because that's stupid, Hive Fleets do have traits, stop being a fucking idiot. To say nothing that you can be a splinter and make your own damn subfleet.

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>20 couscarii next to a graia warlord will do a whopping 109 hits in close combat
01001001 00100000 01100001 01101101 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01110011 01100101 01101110 01100001 01110100 01100101

>>55352217
Make your own hive fleet then and pick whichever you like.

>>55352217
Nid players don't need a buff, they need to suffer. I had to use all my multi melta bits putting together an army to kill them last edition

>>55351051

Black Templars and DG

>>55352217
>Nids are supposed to be endlessly varied

So give them nothing when everyone's getting subfaction rules? Thats fucking retarded, besides Hive Fleets have different idiosyncrasies and adaptations have been a thing for a long fucking time.

>>55352204
This 6+ FNP isn't better, it's slightly different.

+Applies to morale phase.
-Does not apply to every potential wound that a multi-wound model takes.

>>55352170
No, I was. I just considered players making their own nids unique to BE different hive fleets getting their own unique flavors. So you mean that on the macro level. I disagree. On the macro level, nids should be left homogeneous. If there's one faction left in 40k that's supposed to be the homogeneous faction, it's them.

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>>55352239

>>55352239
Calm down robin

>>55352235
>that GIF
Back to >>>/pol/ with you

>>55351943
>for religiously following the same system.
you mean like how the catholics and the protestants, or the sunnis and the shias all religiously following the same system?

>>55352264
Fair, but its at least different, meaning we won't be seeing just copy-pastes.

>>55352138
GSC have cults anon. They'll get subfactions too.