Primaris Terminator edition
>old thread
>>55334565
>After weeks of a rigged campaign, Imperials win it.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/11/the-fate-of-konor-imperial-victory/
>top 5 squigs
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/05/celebrate-30-years-of-warhammer-40000-top-5-squigsgw-homepage-post-3/
>GW FAQs (1.1):
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Rules-Errata
>FW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/15/new-and-updated-forge-world-faqs-july16gw-homepage-post-2/
>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:
>Everything 8th edition in properly converted pdf & epub, fully bookmarked and linked with in-line errata annotations
https://mega.nz/#F!bF0ExS4D!_XaMECn0K9HiJKUFSopJLA
>Other Megas
https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!9NchGZyZ!-V1LhJALxDp9Tw97WzEQGA
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
>WIP Math-hammer doc (Thanks Chart-Anon!)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing
/c/fags btfo
Just got a lot of Purple and Gold space marines from a friend.
I only own Guard other than this.
Here's what I made of it
1505 Hawk Lords
Vanguard
Captain 98pts
MC boltgun, Relic Sword, Santic Halo
Tac Squad 90pts
3x Marine 1x Missile Launcher
Dreadnought 146pts
Twin Heavy Flamer, Combat Weapon/Storm Bolter
Dreadnought 146pts
Twin Heavy Flamer, Combat Weapon/Storm Bolter
Dreadnought 146pts
Twin Heavy Flamer, Combat Weapon/Storm Bolter
Venerable Dreadnought 165
Missile Launcher, Twin Lascannon
Terminator Squad 312pts
7x Terminator
Power Fist, Storm Bolter
Predator 160pts
Twin Lascannon, 2 Heavy Bolter
Predator 160pts
Twin Lascannon, 2 Heavy Bolter
Razorback 82pts
Twin Heavy Bolter
Any changes I should make to this?
I think there are a few speeders with Flamers and a lot more Tac marines in the box I got. 2 more Terrmies and another Sargent for them too.
>>55336831
>adds rigged konor meme to OP
>sabotages my waifuposting
>but leaves top ten squigs in
I guess you break even this time anon
Who's the artist that does all these? They're really cool
What is your favourite suit? Why?
>>55336876
Looks solid.
Not sold on the heavy bolters on predators personally.
>>55336831
Where are the AdMech leaks? Do we have a list of forge world bonuses yetplease don't tell me Mars is the no-brainer pick, I'm tired of seeing Belisarius Cuck on the table
>>55336884
search http://wh40kart.im/ , he's probably one of the first results in the loyalist tag
>>55336891
It's what they have modeled on them. I'll dig around and see if I can find some lascannon bits.
>>55336883
Nigga I added them in, in the first place.
>>55336904
Mars is very good from the community post today.
>>55336831
I love terminators
terminators are the thing that makes me the happiest
>>55336831
redemtion of mortation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNYRxX8fNGI&
onions on this? beside blood angels i never liked a legion as much as pre heresy death guard. imagine if they go loyalist again.
>>55336904
Mars is top tier. You get 2 canticles per turn if you choose randomly. WL trait is +3" to auras
>>55336904
Currently Mars appears to be a no-brainer.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/11/forge-world-focus-mars-sep-11gw-homepage-post-4/
>>55336886
>>55336926
Yes
I have 25 Tson Terminators and I can barely stop myself
In two words or less, tell me how cadia died
>>55336934
Best Legion is and always will be Iron Warriors
I wonder if there were any loyalist IW that stuck around and helped the Imperium after the Seige of Terra
>>55336957
colony drop
>>55336957
Guard Stands.
>>55336957
Chaos won
>>55336934
I doubt the Imperium would accept them back, and Nurgle would not let his puppets go
>>55336934
>mortarion is basically the same as 30k
>except larger size
>and increased psychic might
>and Fucking giant insect wings
I like 40k theories but this time was shoddy
>>55336957
Bad writing
>>55336924
>>55336937
>>55336938
Ahh fuck.
>inb4 Ryza gets ignore cover
>>55336957
Rocks Fall
>>55336957
Standing
>>55336942
What Sept and model is that?
>>55336886
XV15
Looks like a natural upgrade from fire warriors. Wish we had more heavy infantry instead of 100 different manga suits.
>>55336996
Don't forget reroll failed Wounds vs. Buildings
>>55336926
The coolest thing about marines
I have ten tartaros on the way
>>55336957
Big baddaboom.
>>55337040
AYY FREEMAN
>>55337048
>/v/ users are between us
that explains the shitposting. at last I truly see.
>>55336996
Ryza will get something, something Plasma.
>>55336957
kaput
>>55336926
Made Honor Cripple more honorable.
Can Honor Guard take any power weapon now or will I have to buy some power axes?
>>55336926
>>55337077
Literally no options. I just use mine as Lieutenants.
>>55337090
Good call.
Holy shit Space Marines and the game in general has been dumbed down....
I'll look into other editions
>>55337077
should be axes swords mauls thunder hammer and relic blade
>>55337077
What are the parts you used to make him?
>>55337090
I remember there being a thing that if options that were in the index are missing from the codex, you can use the options in the index
>>55337107
It's the old metal parts from the Iron Hands tactical squad, they're now fineshit I think.
I had them lying around for years and I figured I could make an extra guy with them
>>55336963
Rumor goes that the Silver Skulls are Dantioch's boys, basically made Roboute's adopted sons after they ended up in Ultramar and went full Ultramarine.
>>55337077
>Can Honor Guard take any power weapon
>plan a game With someone
>meet up with them the next morning
>"oh yeah how many points do you want to play?"
>"well I have a 100 power level list ready to go"
>>55337125
Thanks.
>>55336886
Birthday suit. Fun to play with people using it.
>>55337130
Not much fucking planning there.
>>55337132
Nurgle bless
Also fixed the waist gap on the terminator captain, no he's not a manlet andd I think it will look good painted
I should have thought things better and done it before gluing the legs, but whatever
>>55337130
>plan game with someone
>but don't actually plan it
Sausages. Or whatever is it they say on /a/.
>>55337130
Did you play?
>>55337146
can't reverse search. Anyone has sauce on this pic?
>>55337132
N-Nurgle bless!
>>55337171
>no shoulderpads
Jesus christ that looks awful
>>55337132
FUCK YOU
>>55337130
0/8 b8 m8
>>55337181
Pretty sure it was posted here years and years ago. There is no uncensored version afaik.
>>55337186
He's just missing one, I'm lurking on shapeways for novamarines style shoulderpads or I might just get a regular one
>>55337200
>shapeways
I'm sorry anon.
>>55337181
>>55337197
Both yandex and Sankaku turned up the uncensored version
>>55337160
>>55337173
I had all day and I didn't care what points we did, I honestly just forgot PL was a thing
>>55337175
Yeah, asked him why he wanted PL and he said points was too confusing, showed him BattleScribe, we made his list, turns out he was at like 2100 so I just made that size army, he thanked me for showing him the waythen I crushed his dreams
>>55337233
Is it kill?
There are still tons of sellers with items for sale. Are they done?
>>55337132
Nurgle Bless.
But that's this about ignore cover and re-roll to-wounds against buildings?
>>55336926
Such a fucken pity Aggressors are all we're gonna get seriously fuck it, Primaris termies was the thing I was most excited about hands down...
>>55337233
?
Shapeways does good work though
>>55337261
Its a meme.
Imperial Fists and Iron Warriors have it. And its bad.
People who's armies don't have codexes are scared they'll get it too.
>>55337263
I'm sure in a year primaris termies with 3 wounds will drop in the space marine supliment
>>55337171
Need some shoulders, anon
>>55337275
A bunch of 40k stuff on shapeways was nuked by GW recently.
>>55336926
Here you go anon
>>55336934
Yeah, he'll be redeemed after he got a plastic kit.
>>55337283
Remember last edition when army wide ignores cover would be the most broken thing ever
>t. Guardfag who ran emperor's wrath formation
>>55337283
Are your army famous for sieges? If so you might be getting it.
Kriegers will, if they get rules.
Alright, post your receipt for Master of Mankind RIGHT NOW!
>>55337260
Not kill, by it's said GW laid down the C&Dhammer on one of the bigger sellers of shoulderpads etc. on there.
>>55336957
Crying Guardfags.
Can someone post primus redoubt entry and points?
>>55337308
If we're lucky Chapter Approved will tweak cover a bit but I doubt it, most people seem to be happy with the current "simple" implementation.
>>55337321
Who is this cunt and why do I already not like him?
Also does anyone have a link to the MoM audiobook? I wanna hear what all the hates about but don't wanna support ADB
>>55336926
>>55337321
Anon, please.
>>55337350
That's Aaron "I fucking hate cis white males" Dembski-Bowden.
>>55337359
So pauldrons even work?
So I'm considering whether I should continue trying to stick with the game. The community I'm with is good, and it's fun to play Casually, but the game feels like it's not what I wanted when I discovered and started it. I've only been playing for around a year and it's gone from interesting dark fluff to puling things from nowhere for sales, and the more I read into it the more i'm disappointed. And the rules so far offer no customization, and has all the focus on big model characters in both "Lore" and rules.
>Just wait for more codexes Fag.
So more armies can ignore cover and hit buildings better?
Maybe i'm just salty over how the Renegades and heretics army I was excited over was rendered unplayable when 8th dropped and there's not likely to be an Imperial Armour for a year or two assuming more people don't turn away from the edition by then and they have to make more Primaris to make it up.
>>55337350
Anon, if you don't pay for my audio-book, how am I to write the next one?
How can I make two of these into Honor Guard in a way that fits with Honor Cripple?
(>>55337077 )
Is the cape too much?
>>55337380
>Maybe i'm just salty over how the Renegades and heretics
Pretty much this. I suppose you couldn't have knoe any better but buying heavily into FW only stuff is a terrible idea in general.
>>55337380
Just play with friends only and the edition you want with the homebrew extra rules you want, like everyone else.
Also narrative play >>>> competishit play
>>55337394
Could bling up HC with a crotchcloth or Cape.
>>55337380
>Just wait for more codexes Fag.
>So more armies can ignore cover and hit buildings better?
See, there's your problem. You're allowing memes to affect your view of the game. That'll be $400 consultation fee.
>>55337283
>>55337311
What trait do you think cadians will get?
Ignore negitive leadership modifiers or something trash like that?
>>55336886
Broadsides with railguns
Keels aren't pictured there
what army should I play if I have a Lance fetish? Are Grey Knights the only option?
>>55337418
Good point but the point of Honor Cripple is that he's very spartan and has made it through the ranks with the power armor and bolter he was given when he started, and accepts no decorations.
I'll maybe get him a fur cloak from some aftermarket company
>>55337452
Eldar can bring like 30 lances in one army
>>55337452
That or White Scars. Also Salamanders has one.
>>55337452
Eldar get shining spears and their lascannon-type weapons are called "lances".
>>55337452
Craftworld Eldar, spam brightlances and Shining Spears.
GK don't use lances.
>>55337452
Eldar.
>>55337452
Halberds and Falchions are currently the best melee weapons for Grey Knights so go fucking nuts
>>55337457
>Good point but the point of Honor Cripple is that he's very spartan and has made it through the ranks with the power armor and bolter he was given when he started, and accepts no decorations.
If that's the case I'd say you're better off making the other Honor Guards match HC.
>aka convert up some more damaged marines for HC to party with.
>>55336996
What about OC doughnut steel forge worlds? My skittles and priests are a lovely shade of blue.
>>55337452
Rough riders use actual lances
>>55337452
>lance fetish
i didn't know Bretonnian knights browsed here
>>55337502
Pick a successor faggot, I suggest the ignores cover one.
>>55337388
That's the point, Aaron. That's what we're trying to stop.
>>55337452
How do you also feel about walkers?
>>55337235
So it is
>>55337517
> ignores cover is new meme useless special rule
Loving every laugh
>>55337450
+1 leadership.
Orders can be cast from 3" further.
>>55337472
>>55337473
>>55337481
>>55337485
>>55337486
>>55337491
>>55337504
>>55337515
>>55337552
>All these Lances
Although I meant melee ones you anons are too good to me
>>55337132
Nurgle Bless.
Also, Plaguefather, requesting any spare blessings for my friend who got rammed by a truck. He's a devout follower of yours and could use cheering up.
I won a Hive Tyrant for quite cheap the other day. There's only a single picture and it says it has "some metal part"
How hard is it going to be to remove its heavy venom cannon if it's metal? I ordered some chinaman twin deathspitters
>>55337388
Mission success.
>>55337538
Didn't you like Betrayer anon? My wife and I are very hungry and would like to eat.
>>55337594
Chuck it in the freezer for a few hours, then you can pop it fight off.
>>55336886
Y'varna, maybe Stealths. I dig the more compact, aerodynamic look. Hope codex brings some more close range options.
going to paint my other version of this guy, as IT after seeing the movie tonight.
I'll post results in a day or two.
>>55337600
Maybe your father invite you over for dinner.
>>55337594
>How hard is it going to be to remove its heavy venom cannon if it's metal? I ordered some chinaman twin deathspitters
Pretty easy. The Tyrant's limbs are a ball and socket joint. Just rip the arm free.
You'll probably have more issues removing it if it's plastic torso w/ plastic arm(s).
>>55337502
We get to pick as far as I know. Quite happy about that, even if I'm probably just going to run Mars anyway. I do really dig the Wrath of Mars stratagem, that's the kind of thing that would rather benefit a squad of 4 Kastelans landing 54 hits/9 Mortal Wounds a turn with Cawl rerolls.
>>55337598
How about I write a book about Ultramarines? You lile Ultramarines don't you Ward?
>>55337394
I miss the Master of Relics/Master of Marches/Master of Ceremonies.
>>55337111
Yes, but you are taking the unit as it exists from the index, so any missing Keywords, all costs, and any other changes from index to codex are lost.
What's a good loadout for a Chapter Master?
What would look good with MK III armor?
>>55337646
Please don't bring up that man.
>>55337623
Also I should say I'm adding greenstuff hair, extra teeth, and clown makeup.
>>55336831
What are some good loadouts for Raven Guard Assault Squads? Is bolt pistol + chainsword kind of the go to combo?
>>55337685
Mordheim had a faction that was a Nurgle circus
>>55337707
>Raven Guard
Anything long range.
>>55337600
Hahahhahahahahha holy shit that image is fucking perfect
>balding numale cuck next to mascara caked future landwhale who takes BBC on a nightly basis
Guys every time I get 75% of the way through an army I want a new one.
I had orks. Sold them for black Legion stuff. Sold that for space wolf stuff. Realized I was on the wrong side of that shit, sold it for thousand sons. Now I'm eyeing up Tau. Help. I have a disease.
>>55337758
Eventually you'll come back to one of them.
Took me a decade.
>>55337726
Is it even worth taking any melee on a Raven Guard list then? I had some knife Reivers and planned to add some melee Assault marines but now that I think about the tactics long range would work better for it
>>55337758
man talk about going downhill, started with the best and you'll end up with the worst, I pity you
>>55337621
Y'Vahras got people being all kinds of salty
>>55337350
it's on audiobookbay
>>55337783
You could take melee marines but they very quickly become Index marines.
>>55337797
Anon, he's already tried Space Wolves.
>>55337817
>Index marines
Hm?
>>55337797
WAAC armies need not comment
>>55337659
Too busy writing magical realm: Draigo butt fucking Moreetarium. I mean, I have some wonderful ideas for Gulliman. Perhaps Ill take the chaos assignment, to ensure my legacy, of course.
>>55337835
Once melee marines get within 12" they lost all benefits for being ravenguard.
If you want melee RG just run them as BT or WS.
Chaos is for heretics and pussies.
>>55337646
underrated
>>55337743
I'm willing to be he wrote fanfiction about one of his brown marines fucking his wife
>>55337831
TOP KEK
I'M LOVING IT
On a serious note I am sure all your armies look like shit anyway
>>55337874
le le ur kayoss xddddddd
>>55337684
You dont love and honor your father, Aaron
Doesn't look so bad here.
>>55337872
Ah ok. Thanks. My chapter is kind of ambushy pirate types so the idea was to deep strike some guys into melee while other fired from afar, but all range seems better with the tactics. Happen to know any good deep strike units for this? Was considering adding a shooty Termie squad
>>55337880
Tell that to the Watcher in the Dark that made the Changeling piss itself in fear.
>>55336926
I was just thinking the same thing the past few days. Going to expand my LC squad from 5 to 10. Really commit myself to Terminating, for better or worse, you know?
>>55337302
Probably by the same artist.
>>55337915
>hooded manlet makes a millenia old shapeshifting trickster shit his pants
what
>>55337817
>>55337835
I'm pretty sure the wholepoint of RG tactics was to keep melee marines alive until they get to melee range...
>>55337002
Damn right.
>>55337887
Does he have the Downs? That forehead
>>55337235
My google-fu is weak. Help an anon out?
>>55337941
Always found it weird how he didn't include an engine and the space behind the pilot is just empty.
>>55337860
yes I bought all 15k points of Orks in the last couple months
>>55337887
Eh still not a fan
>>55337952
Yep. Wrath of Magnus. Page 29, I believe?
>>55337002
on the edge of the crater
>>55337915
>"Watcher in the Dark"
>Not a calling it what it actually is
>A pair of Nurglings in a Robe
>>55337132
Nurgle Bless
>>55336831
So we're actually going to get primaris terminators?
>>55338017
"...the Changling found his way barred: not by the embattled heroes, but by a diminutive figure that was hidden entirely by white robes and carried a graven crozius in both arms. The Daemon recoiled in horror, for the creature before it was anathema to its kind. The creature focussed its baleful glare, and the Changeling turned and fled." That ain't no fucking Nurgling.
>>55337979
https://iqdb.org/?url=http://i.4cdn.org/tg/1505152060557s.jpg
>>55338028
It's just fanart.
>>55336957
It was destroyed by Abbadon "hitting planets with blackstone mallets" the Despoiler
>>55337981
The engine could be between the legs, but that'd be stupid.
>>55338029
>That ain't no fucking Nurgling.
Exactly. It's TWO Nurglings.
>>55338028
No. At least nothing is announced/rumored.
>>55338029
Changeling is a Tzeentch Daemon anon, it's naturally opposed to Nurgle!
>>55337132
BEGONE, CHAOS CUNT.
>>55338059
We don't need Nurgle. We have the god of Manliness, the Emperor.
>>55337584
Np anon, Some people here do legit want to help others with their hobby believe it or not
>>55337953
>>55337872
Remember that they also have stratagems and relics to work with, Chapter Tactics aren't just in a vacuum.
>>55338059
And he also gets the profile of whatever he is facing
Getting the profile of a nurgling is not great...
>>55338060
No bully Nurglings.
>>55338029
>WitD scare daemons in fluff
>but just turn into a 1 use DtW on the tabletop
They should have some sort of morale aura on Daemons so they can do cool shit like this.
>>55337797
I regret selling my orks. They were beautifully painted bad Moonz. Had a mek load out. Had a Boyz load out. Big yellow horde covered in KFFs. But those glory days are gone. And I know that no ork army I have will ever capture that glory and wonder of my first steps into the hobby. So I want them to stay back in the lens of my rose colored goggles, like the girl that got away.
I sold them because my store got play test rules or some shit and overwatch was at regular BS. so I got crushed.
>>55338101
Yeah, for sure. I'd take the points hike.
>>55336957
When the people stopped believing
>>55337707
Putting together vv 5 man w/one power axe. Issadon, HQ
>>55338104
>Selling a loved army because they're not viable
Buddy what's wrong with you?
>>55337883
Oh, hey Schwarzenegger man, I loved your speech to the neo-nazis. Good work man.
>>55337864
Mr Ward will Draigo and Guillman kill Chaos?
>>55336957
>how cadia died
New kits
>>55338083
Apparently, a stern glare from a Watcher was enough to make him shit his pants and run.
>>55338104
>selling your army because they are underpowered at a particular moment
This is your punishment for turning your back on the boyz, Gork judges you.
>>55338104
i didnt know people like this actually existed, ill pray I never become this.
>>55338104
>Selling your beloved Armies to buy a new one
I get it if youre in dire need of money and need to put the hobby to a break/stop. But just to buy new Models, just no
So I'm looking at this to get my new Thousand Sons army.
I feel like it's incredibly unbalanced, so how should I fix it? I want to keep it as fluffy as possible as pure Sons(no tzaangors) I haven't bought the second termies or the daemons yet
Auxiliary support detachment:
>10x Pink Horror(points set aside for blues/brimstones)
Superheavy Auxiliary Detachment:
>Magnus the Red
Patrol Detachment
>Ahriman on Disc of Tzeentch
>10x Rubric Marines: 1 sorc with warpflame bolter, 4x bolters, 4x flamers, 1x cannon
>10x Rubric Marines: 1 sorc with hand flamer, 4x bolters, 4x flamers, 1x cannon
>5x scarabs: 1 sorc with combibolter, 3x combibolters, 1x heavy flamer
>5x scarabs: 1 sorc with combibolter, 3x combibolters, 1x heavy flamer
total: 1998 pts
>>55338034
Well, I feel like an idiot now.
Thank you anon. May your future be bright and without suffering.
>>55338178
>Ahriman and Magnus in the same list
>fluffy
>>55336957
DM fiat
>>55338190
modern 1ksons are exactly like that. Magnus brought ahriman back and they're working together again.
>>55338178
drop horrors, run 4 MSU rubric, get 2 rhinos and a termi sorcerer.
>>55338131
>>55338170
>>55338175
>>55338173
I know. It's guilt I live with every time I see Boyz across the table. To be fair I also got upset about the way wound allocation changed, my FLGS became extremely toxic and I was about to graduate college and move God knows where. I sold orks and took a 3 or 4 year break. Nothing is the same though.
>>55338220
If your enjoyment of a casual wargaming hobby is decided by how good your army is, you need a different hobby.
>>55338198
Ahriman helped Magnus invade Wulf-land in exchange for future help in accessing the black library.
They still dislike one another
40k, Daddy Issues in the 41st Millennium
Gw describes Graia as "ruthless".
IIRC didn't they job to a handful of Orks and needed the Guard/Ultramaries to clean up their mess?
>>55336886
Ghostkeel, because it's one of the very few tau suits which does not have the retarded security camera head.
It's also an ideal mech size IMO, large enough to comfortably seat the pilot in the torso, while not being too tall to seek any form of cover
I also like the stealth suits, especially Shadowsun's experimental one.
Does anyone know of any place that sells metal backpacks? I need some replacements for a few that fell off of my Sisters after some kids on bikes made me drop my case.
What happens if you cast Smite and the closest enemy model can't be targeted by psychic power (Psychic Abomination, etc)?
>>55338220
Build killteams. There are so many different armies I want to play so I make killteams to scratch that itch and spend a lot more time painting each model.
R8 my first completed squad of alpharius's
I feel like they don't have tons of details on them or anything to really make them pop, but they are alpha legion and they are just basic troopsor a primarch
Thinking of doing the base as a nuln oil washed Astrogranit
>>55338267
The power is wasted. It's in the FAQ.
>>55338236
My primary interest is aesthetic but I'm in a constant state of flux with what I like. Ultimately my decision to sell them was that I wasn't having fun with them because I was getting blown off the table by Tau Riptide spamming manchildren, and was about to move. I down sized out of a lot of my hobbies. Since the orks I've only ever had about 1k points of models at a time with plans for a 2k list. But then I trade into something else. But I miss the orks pretty bad.
>>55338139
Please dont bike lock me!
>>55338267
Per the FAQ it just fails to go off
>>55338280
Which one? There are several
>>55338274
The only guy I know that plays KT runs 3 5 wound officio assasinorum models that feel impossible to kill. And he's unbearable to talk to.
>>55337359
I love these, they take the pauldron joke to such an extreme.
>>55336886
Where do you put your legs in the XV25
>>55338312
Imperium 2, obviously, since that's where both of the most popular psychic null units come from.
>>55338266
>that fell off of my Sisters
So you couldn't find them or they broke?
eBay really is your only option. Even then I'm doubtful.
>>55338325
It's like power armour. So the legs go where the legs are
>>55338267
You can't cast it. Very clever way to cuck your enemies of their psychic powers that target the closest enemy unit.
>>55338266
Were you bullied by the children's equivalent of a biker gang?
>>55338140
Perhaps. Dont you think Aaron would like that?
>>55338358
Ward needs to grow his hair back into a friendly nerd mop, he looks gay as fuck with that cut.
>>55338380
he looked decent back when he kept it short, but I'll agree in that the nerd mop is better than whatever he's got in that image
>>55338380
I suppose I could. I do have beautiful ocks, right Aaron?
>>55338316
Make Killteam appealing to the rest of the store. Newbies in paticular love Killteam because of the low model count. Bully the assass fag out of the group.
>>55336886
Crisis suits and fire warriors are what got me Into 40k back in 3rd
>>55338380
It would look less awful if he'd just do a standard side part.
>>55338420
You you play heralds of ruin?
>>55338451
Not yet. My army doesnt have an opus. I've read the rules. It seems fun.
>>55338417
Stay away from Abaddon you hippie!
>>55338463
Are you still on 7th or... How you rules bro
>>55338329
I couldn't find all of them. I looked for almost half an hour and came up five short. And I just got done repainting them too. Fucking sucks to have to resort to ebay for these.
>>55338355
Young kids not understanding the concept of a speedbump nearly hit me. I dodged, but dropped my case in the process. They didn't even stop to see if I was okay, just kept riding. Only thing that saved that day was me winning my rematch against the Krieg player at my LGS.
Has anyone made a printable PDF for the 8th edition Tactical Objectives yet, or an app?
>>55338496
GW sells objective cards dummy
Speaking off BL authors have someone of you "fucking iron warriors" image with John French?
>>55338266
>Does anyone know of any place that sells metal backpacks?
just cast them yourself, you numpty
oyumaru or even a homebrew GS mold is enough for something as simple as those backpacks
>>55338478
Abaddon needs a little kitty familiar. A cute little cat side kick. Wouldnt that be nice, Aaron?
>>55338528
I really hate the idea of having to use greenstuff to fix them. I like my models to be completely metal, or I'd buy recasts.
How has he done?
>>55337758
welcome to my hell. I've been here for 3 years. eventually you'll just stop buying things in fear of them soon boring you and you'll stagnate to never building, painting or playing for this fear.
>>55338262
I thought Graia got invaded by 'Crons and then Orks and finally CSM. While it was repairing it went silent around the time Nids showed up in the area.
I could have sworn graia was dead unless they managed to get it's engines back up on time which wouldn't surprise me honestly, GW needs those Dogmas/Traits after all.
It always struck me as the most boring forgeworld in the Codex though, Ryza has cool plasma, Mars is devout, Stygies has the xeno tech cults and Graia is supposedly just 'ruthless' which means fuck all when the Admech have no idea of mercy anyway.
I'm curious. IF dark angels did turn out to be heretics, what would you faggots who play them think?
>>55338481
SOME of these have been updated to 8th. The baser rules at least are playable with the standard points systemin 8th if your opus isnt out yet.
>>55338591
What the fuck did you just say, boy?
>>55338262
Graia is perpetually being invaded by something or other. They just fuck off and leave the few Skitarii in the forge cities underneath the Crown to fight as best they can bereft of support and tactical guidance, so it's not surprising they got beaten by a full WAAAGH!.
Still, "ruthless" could well describe literally the entire Admech, you go any further into Ruthless and start going out the other side for inefficient cruelty. We'll have to see how they do it.
>>55338681
Forgot link lol
http://heralds-of-ruin.blogspot.com/p/kill-team-rules.html?m=1
>>55338640
"Fuck, they're going to take away all my good vehicles."
>>55338618
>>55338697
Ruthless. Never quitting, brutal and will hound enemies to any corner of the system. Naturallyre-roll morale
>>55338591
Superbly.
>>55337029
Because in Dawn of War the maps are big enough and objective are important enough that Tau have to actually move around.
40k tables are so small they can just sit in there deployment zone and try to table people.
And the really weird thing about it is that in the fluff Tau aren't even a gunline army. They're not Eldar-tier in mobility but they're close. They really should be more of a mid-ranged army that relies on out-maneuvering their opponebts- and that's kind of what they were like before GW/FW went full retard with the Riptides.
>>55337132
NURGLE BLESS
>>55338640
A certain chinese DAfag will be as shocked as the new initiates, when they find out what the battle brothers mean when they talk about "shooting loads of hot plasma" in the dungeons of the Rock
>>55338724
>Never quitting, brutal and will hound enemies to any corner of the system
That's just an average Skitarii Ranger, and Mars has a decent chance of pulling that entire trait from the Canticles box anyway in addition to whatever else. That would make even LESS sense than it would for the Word Bearers.
>>55338724
You say it likes it's a joke but we're going to get bullshit like this because of hurr durr 8th is simple edition.
This simple edition bullshit has yet to show any interesting and fun rules from traits and that sort of thing. I just want them to have Zealot or some bullshit like that, something more interesting than generic +1 cover or extra wounds vs buildings.
Fucking kill me though, I know my Stygies fleet will be stuck with +1 to run distance or something pointless.
Be frank with me, Im new and want to start a Necron army, are things really as bad as these threads would have me believe, or is that strictly on a WAAC level? I just don't want to get btfo every game
>>55338779
He's taking the piss out of how so far all the traits have been boring generic shit that barely reflect the faction's fluff and don't add any fun rules, anon.
>>55338794
It's not that bad. Necrons are a good army to start with because they are all plastic models and relatively easy to paint.
I'd say go for it and try to find a cool local place to play.
>>55338794
Necrons are pretty powerful if build right. They are just really vulnerable to Plasma which is pretty prevalent this Edition.
They are not that bad and most people in this Thread arent good at the game or barely play
Questions for the power Armored players out there
>1. Are centurions worth it?
I mean assault could be fun if you're RG, but outside of that do they have a real use?
>2. are the relic Contemptors good?
250 points for an utter beast in CC and shooting, a 2+ save, and good guns looks mighty fine. Only thing is it's pretty damn expensive
>3. Are aggressors ACTUALLY good?
I've seen a ton of people talk about them, but they seem kinda meh in my opinion. Am I missing something?
>>55336957
Standing.
>>55338739
As someone who had played a bit of Tau in 4th/5th edition; Tau absolutely were a gunline. Broadside moved? Congrats it can't shoot at all this turn. One Fire Warrior moved? Well now his whole squad loses the ability shoot at their full range. The only mobile things were Crisis Suits.
>>55338893
That's exactly what that anon meant. In the fluff Tau are suppose to be all about mobility, redeploying forces all the time and never holding ground. But in the game Tau are one of the most gunline armies there are.
>>55338739
Except Riptides do hit the notes you're suggesting? Mobile and ranged firepower. Maneuvering and not stationary etc
Any news/rumours on what Codices are next, Right now its all been Marines so hopefully no more Imperials this year (except maybe a slight Nerf Guard-dex) as they said therell be 10 Codices by Christmas. We have 5 so far.
Kinda hoping for Eldar and Daemons Release to happen soon
>>55337015
My gue'vesa.
More auxiliaries would have been nice as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5VEG9wJyds&t=0s
LMAO Nurglecucks on suicide watch!
Salamanders BTFO them comprehensively. Mortarion does nothing and dies easily the whole game!Also Nurgle Lord with Plasma Pistol overcharges and rolls 1, rerolls to 1. Hahahahaha.
But guys, ignore cover is like making your guns have even better AP!
>>55339055
>MWG
Do you enjoy being a faggot and watching garbage?
>>55337132
NURGLE BLESS
>>55339055
Loyalty is its own reward.
>>55339055
>MWG
Dropped it there, they probably thought dealing a mortal wound a 4+ meant mort was losing wounds
How will the Chaos Daemons codex handle summoning?
Currently if you summon something, its outside your detachment, ergo it can't gain detachment bonuses.
>>55338951
Eldar, Guard and Tyranids are the ones after admech, check their community page.
>>55339055
Even the best army can be curbstomped if the player has no fucking clue what he's doing
>>55339089
>>55339081
Name someone else who does battle reports with better quality.
Name someone else who has personalities which are easy to like.
>>55337132
Tzeentch bless.
>>55339116
Guard next, surely.
>>55339142
Tabletop Tactics
WinterSEO
Literally anyone else
>>55339164
>old man with badly painted army
Nope.
>tryhard faggots who are clearly all sleeping with eachother
Nope.
>>55339142
>thinks their quality is highest on YouTube just because they do editing
>thinks those cringe lords and annoying autists are likable
is this bait?
This has to be bait right
>>55339142
Literally anyone. MWG gets rules wrong so often you can't even make a drinking game out of it.
>>55339184
Winterseo armies look good though. What's the issue.
And I don't think the Table top tactics dudes are gay...
>>55339090
Detachment Bonuses dont exist, the thing youre on about are The Army-Trait. Daemons dont benefit from it for example because they dont have the <Heretic Astartes> Keyword just like the Nurgle Daemons dont have the Death Guard Keyword.
So if Daemons summon something they very much do benefit from the Traits
Rumours are that Daemons are all about generating and spending excessive amounts of CP, like Khorne having something similar to their AoS Blood tithe that grants them CP whenever they die or kill an entire Unit in Melee (not shooting or morale) and have 4+ CP Stratagems.
They might have some Stratagems that let you summon a Unit for Free or they get the Portalglyph back
>>55339145
Guess what Tzeentch Daemons detachment tactics will be?
Reroll failed morale.
>>55339184
Even if those claims were True which they arent, I'd take that 10x over screeching Autists who resort to cheating they start losing to "challengers"
>>55339224
That's too strong for daemons, give them ignores cover instead.
>>55339142
> t. Vault member with battered wife syndrome
> t t t t they don't make that many mistakes!!!!
> it's not like it's their job!!1 Oh wait it is
> but I love their narrative campaigns!!!
Get out
Rate my WAAAAGGHHH
Warboss in MA 136
Kustom Shoota Power Klaw
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Kustom Shoota Power Klaw
Boyz 180
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Boss w/ Cybork body 9 Nobs
Warbikers 135
Boss Nob, 4 Bkikers
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Deff Dread 131Gray tide
>>55338872
1) grav cents have wained. Assault cents can be good, just rememeber to correlate keywords. If infantry, then, good (dont have codex in front of me).
2) leviathan if choice. Godly.
>>55339299
Why do I keep hearing that TITANIC allows you to move and fire Heavy weapons without penalty?
Where is this shit coming from?
>>55339345
Stuff like the Lord of Skulls
How would an army of 7 Great unclean Ones fair on the table
Do this campaign, guys! You get points for painting new things! Btw, here is a constant stream of releases for all you space Marine players and t- what? No shut up chaos players. And here's a new Codex for your Marines an- christ, shut up death guard. Anyway, here's the the chaos Codex, but wait here the grey knights Codex with a bunch of new stuff for you grey knights players you can convert! God. No you still don't have anything new, chaos shut the fuck up already. Anyways, here's another Marine release. Oh damn. Looks like imperials won the campaign. Oh well. Here's Deathguard Codex with a single kit release, but don't worry imperials, we have another Marines release, too.
>>55339390
Dies to conscripts
>>55339345
People being dumb simply because most Titanic models in the GW Indexes have various special rules to let them move and shoot without penalty. People tend to get similarly confuse with Flyers and the Airborne and Hard to Hit rules.
>>55337999
Can you post it plox
>>55338496
I have a spreadsheet? does that help?
>>55339055
Wow that guy is bad
>>55339363
But that's a special rule for the Lord of Skulls only, 'Titanic Daemon Engine'.
What idiot would think it applies to all TITANIC models?
>>55337584
I genuinely play jetbike spam eldar as a heavy cavalry army
Shining Spears on the charge are no fucking joke
>>55339453
Not him but er ya go.
>>55339316
> does not realize the exact same thing can be said of themselves
(You) basically avatarfag with this image every time someone beats (You) the fuck out.
Kys
>>55339499
Read some old FAQ and see what kind of people play this game.
So in my quest to make my Minotaurs as odd as possible, I had a thought - replace the pistols with the bottom bits, and find something more flavorful to replace the knives with. Any suggestions for bladed bits that could make them look a bit more...unique, I guess?
Admech player at FLGS says that the Skitarii "can shoot like Primarchs" if they are programmed with the right engrams. So do the Admech canticles actually do anything fluffwise, or is it just the "I think I can, I think I can, I think I can" effect that the various Guard litanies have? The bonuses are pretty minor, and if anything Guard orders are more powerful despite just being a guy yelling, so the latter would seem more likely.
Don't know much about Admech lore, only started recently.
>>55339594
Yeah, they're bits of optimization code (but they can't run all the time because the Mechanicus are retarded and forgot how)
>>55339589
Give them all plumed helmets and a gladius
>>55339589
Punch-daggers
>>55339589
The knives they have make good shortswords as is. Maybe you could find something more Greek online, but I wouldn't bother.
>>55339589
Mk III and IV helmets all over (especially the plume ones) for that greek/roman aesthetic.
>>55336957
bang, whimper
>>55339589
>Gunshields
Haha, amazing. Make sure they fit over the gauntlet!
>>55338252
from what I understand the two factions are reunited, and I've even been painting my army to match that. Right now I'm working on painting my 2nd squad of rubrics in 30k colours with traditional logos, and my 2nd squad of scarabs will be the same.
>>55337758
the fuck are you doing nigger
>>55338591
Fucking fantastically.
>>55339589
Kopis, the greek sibling of the Iberian Falcata, the Egyptian Khopesh and the Nepalese Khukri.
Whatre you guys working on?
Im doing my board for armies on parade
Its going to have 3 levels, each with a sound chip
>Above ground, ork horde being addressed by warboss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt_9fsA_XmA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB3KrcLXmnY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKTrrgMrmBc
>mek workshop/garage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wglq-4rocs
>squig pens and Grot village
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miXPS2AI8b0
Im still trying to figure out that last one
>>55339758
World eaters
>>55339606
>>55339617
>>55339622
>>55339640
>>55339645
Thanks for the ideas. I've got plumed helmets which I've already used for Primaris officers, so not sure if I want to have multiples running around. Was thinking trimming the knivesdown into a xiphos, as well, but still thinking. The shields shoud be fun, though.
Also picked up some Grey Knight terminator halberds for my officers, and made a few small changes to them. A quick fix, but it makes them look distinct and utilitarian. Thinking of cutting down the purity seals a bit, too, maybe back halfway or something.
>>55339116
Cant find the article saying that those are next, Got a link or remember what it was about by any chance?
>>55339549
>DOES WITHIN ONE INCH COUNT AS ONE INCH?!?!
>IS CODEX:IG COMISSAR YARRICK A CODEX:MT HQ?!?!?!
I still can't believe that a) these were real questions that were apparently asked so fucking often on their Facebook FAQ campaign that they got picked, and b) GW actually thought it was necessary to answer these questions.
I have to convince myself it was just one guy spamming the same troll questions across dozens of fake Facebook accounts, and GW going "aaayyyy"
So, I just managed to sneak a peak at the AdMech codex at one of my game stores. They've reused the ing Raven Guard/Alpha Legion trait again.
-1 to hit infantry units outside of 12"
It's the trait for Stygies.
Metallica gets a 6+ FNP. Mars rolls two dice for canticles (and I think they get to use both results as well though I may be remembering wrong. The second result might only apply to infantry)
>>55339834
>if you may only shoot at a unit if it's the closest, can I shoot units that are further away?
>>55339837
How does the Endless Cacophony Stratagem interact with the Veterans of the Long War Stratagem. Does VotlW Proc on both activations or only on the first?
>>55339837
But which one got ignores cover. We HAVE to know!
>>55339837
Was posted before mars post today
>>55339834
They were only posted once each. I checked.
Problem was, nobody actually went on facebook and posted questions for Militarum Tempestus.
>>55339529
Thank you please
>>55339866
Mars is true.
you can see that on the community page, the rest not so much
>>55339888
throw a dart
>>55339825
Open wide babby, here comes the plane! BROOOOOOM
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/31/breaking-news-studio-preview-from-the-nova-open/
>>55338942
They have mobile stats, that's not how they're played. They use their insane range to sit in a corner and plink at stuff.
The only times you ever need to move a riptide is to kite a melee unit or JSJ around BLOS
>>55339885
Both, VotlW lasts for the entire phase.
>>55339345
people are still attatched to how usr's worked, and keep mistaking keywords for them.
gw also fucked up and made fly into a usr so the mentality is still there on both sides.
Does anyone else even care about the non mars forgeworlds? If you don't play mars, you can't field Cawl, which means your army is ass.
>>55339984
I've heard is snows in australia during the summer.
>>55339418
intense salty flavor
>>55339984
australia pls
>>55339999
Nice quads.
I know tons of people who painted their army as Metalica because Metalica.
>>55339984
Ooh, Australian players! How is it down under.
>>55339984
>Wyvern/Hydra
Magnetize that shit, yo. Both are viable this edition.
>>55339984
Not only is it upside down, you also manage to have EVERYTHING out of focus.
>>55338618
Graia was saved by The Captain of Ultramarines Second Company : ^ )
>>55339758
Simultaneously building fluffy thousand Sons, and Steel Legion IG
Once I finish my current 30k painted Rubrics, I have Ahriman, a Wyvern/Hydra(still haven't decided), and Magnus to build, and a Vindicare to paint.
>>55340103
No longer Australian, but still out of focus...
>>55340138
meh, I'm not looking to show them off atm, just showing what I have to work on.
>>55339499
I'm not saying that it's what I'm thinking, I'm just saying that because some titanic models exist with rules like that people have that general idea.
Remember: Idiots and WAACfags.
Did they not give Winters SEO a Death Guard book to preview cuz he kept showing all the datasheets and 90% of the point costs?
>>55336831
>triple bolter
Help, my erection is gonna last more than four hours
>>55339999
Is Forge World Old Spice still a thing?
asked in another thread earlier but got really varied responses so asking again:
as a total 40k noob, which army has most potential for fun between Grey Knights, Dark Eldar and Necrons?
I really like all their aesthetics so I guess it's entirely down to how-fun-to-play factor
normiebook /WarhammerTVteam/videos/437693443292306/
THEY ARE AT IT AGAIN.
>>55340220
Not sure which one you're referring to.
Well, if it's literally called that probably not, since I'm fairly certain they retconned Tolkhan, who probably specialized in copyright protection software.
>>55340234
Deldar-Necrons_GK in declining order
>>55339145
I wonder what we'll be getting for either Tzeentch army.
>>55340234
dark eldar are the most diverse, challenging, satisfying, and fun of the three you listed.
There's 4 different ways to play them(of various efficiencies), challenging to get to work, and their models are the nicest-looking by far.
>>55340265CALIBAN GREEN
>>55340265
Commisar Duncan clip?
Was great, they're getting good at this
>>55337006
It's a Jim class suite from the dirty Feddy sept.
>>55340265
The wot?
>>55336957
Hard
>>55340145
This has long not been the place to share your projects, painted guys and battlereports. This is the Place of autistic lore arguments about miniscule details and people whining about WAAC and stuff being homogenized/streamlined in 8th Ed.
We seriously need a /40kLore/ Thread as a containment Thread for the Lore Autists
That being said,whats the reasoning behind your already Tzeentch Touched TS being painted in HH colours when you already have some Blue Rubrics. Also Im not sure if doing two armies at once is a great thing to paint some other colours/models or too distracting from the Faction you wanna focus on
>>55340234
Dark Eldar are pretty fast-paced Glass-cannony which can be fun, they are also Mad-Scientists Space Pirate Goth Elves who live in a Cyber-city inbetween realities.
Necrons are pretty slow but very hard to kill and have some powerful shooting
3GK are very Elite are pretty to/ugh and can do a lot of Psychic stuff (something neither deldar nor necrons have) they also can teleport. But Elite Armies arent the best in 8th and its feels much better to kill a GK Termi with a Kabalite/Necron-Warrior than it feels to kill 2-3 Kabalite/Necrons with a GK Terminator.
So I have primed my Lychguard black. I want to do another spray layer with Caliban Green, which is a color I use a lot on my models, but I am not sure if I should. There isnt really a downside to it but I still dont know. First person yes or no decides.
>>55340387
yes
>>55340387
Strip, basecoat white
>>55340365
I like both colour pallettes, and it gives a visual indicator that I'm having both Ahriman's Prodigal Sons and the Magnus-Loyalist Thousand Sons come together. Obviously, HH-era Sons wouldn't have rubric armor, but I love the models, so I'm making a concession, though filing off the 40k era logos on them for bits like the icon of flame.
>>55340400
W-why do I have to be naked to paint stuff white, anon?
>accident causes a tiny chip on a certain detail on warlord
>>55340365
OVER 11 SQUID FOR A TERMIEMeh, its fine. Death Shroud aren't amazing in and of themselves, they are useful to have one set of though. 3 should be fine to use as bodyguards for your warlord and that's it.
>>55340265
ha
>>55340419
cheaper than tyrant guard, more expensive than ogryn
not a horrible price I guess
>>55339055
>none of the new units from the codex
>no Typhus
>no Poxwalkers
>dumping most of his points in Plague Marines and Chaos Terminators
>dropping Mortarion with no way to protect him or mitigate Lascannons/Missile Launchers
GEE I WONDER WHY THE DEATH GUARD PLAYER LOST
>>55340455
lmao
excuses excuses
>>55340314
+1 to our invulnerable save
+1 to casting and denying
Okay fa/tg/uys, I have some extra scratch and want to get another set of models. I play AdMech but am feeling a mighty need to pick up some Thousand Sons.
Should I get Sicarian Infiltrators or Rubrics?
>>55340507
Rubrics
>>55338890
Best answer.
>>55340507
Which do you like more, anon? I'd go with Rubrics but if you like mech guys more then go with them.
When a model / unit attacks Are all of its attacks simultaneous? for example if they have a bunch of different weapons people tend to roll them separately. but how do these attacks actually work?
>>55340526
They are all simultaneous, if that person declared that all of that odels attacks are going onto a specific unit, if you wipe everything out with the first batch of attacks, without getting to any secondary weapons, you are out of attacks
>>55340526
If theyve got 5 attacks and 3 weapons, they choose the weapon they want to attack with and make all those attacks in sequence. 5 attacks with a power klaw or 5 attack with their big chopper. Apply any necessary rules i.e you can make 1 attack with this weapon so you make 4 attacks with one weapon, 1 attack with the ruled weapon. These all happen in your sequence (if you charged all your dudes attack first, then the opponent. In their next turn they attack first then you.)
>>55338890
The Planet Broke before the Guard did
>>55340507
>I have some extra scratch and want to get another set of models
No, don't. Put it in an index fund.
>>55340234
Can't say as much playwise between the 3 armies, but between them, DE and Necrons are full flegged armies with multiple kits, where as GKs rely on their 2 troop multi kits pretty much. Because of that their are lots and lots of option on those kits, so they are pretty fun kits in themselves, but that's all you'll be playing around with besides borrowed SM vehicle kits etc. Also GK are the only of the 3 that has it's codex, meaning we'll probably not see any new goodies for them for a quite a while. Necrons and DE are still stuck with the interm xenos'dex, but who know what shiny new toys they'll get when they get their books (that could be years away for all we know).
My money would be on DE for the most fun though. Lots of kits with lots of swap able options, so from a hobby perspective kit bashing is there. This can also be a pain as it could be hard to have enough weapon options for a load out you want. On top of that, their's a mixed Eldar faction so you could always expand your army with craft-world eldar and harlequins.
Necrons have less options to kit out squads, they tend to be all specialized squads good at one thing. I wouldn't call that a bad thing, as you won't have to fret over what's the best load out for something. Build your Immortals with one weapon load out or the other, same with Lyich guard, etc. But then, not as much fun kitbashing so from a hobby perspective I'd say DE might be more fun.
All depends on which army looks more fun to run though, so consider that well.
>>55339758
Update, Ive finished the sound for the top level
https://youtu.be/kg230t9gavQ
>>55340524
I have about 1500 pts of AdMech (2500 if you count my Knights) and recently my brother gave me his Dark Vengeance Chosen he never uses, and I got Ahriman from Burning of Prospero (I turned the rest of the Box into Imperial Fists right before the Codex dropped).
How hard is it to kill a unit of 20 Necron Warriors?
>>55340699
About three fiddy
>>55340699
Theyre pretty tough, but keep in mind that their reanimation (and subsequent rerolls) dont work against models fleeing by Morale. The important part is to keep shooting at them until Morale does the rest. They arent a Unit you can slowly whittle down unlike everything else
>>55340455
Are Plague Marines even viable?
Or they just need support and good build (weapons loadout) and tactics (clear idea of the role of the unit, loadout relevant too) ?
>>55340855
They are viable in a DG detachment, apparently. Blight launchers are good.
>>55340234
DE I'd say. Necrons are slow and defensive while DE are really fast and offensive.
>>55341001
>>55341001
>>55341001
new thread
>>55340699
Not very. They have, what, t4 with a 4+ save?
Just wreck them in one round of shooting and your fine.
I know this thread is almost ded, but could I get some critique on this list?
I wanted to do something with Devastators since they can move and shoot now, and Ravenwing is fucking cool. Only problem I have is, since I'm playing a successor chapter, DA is kinda lean on HQ's suited for biking, but at least Libby gets me mortal wounds.
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The blue and yellow 1ks colors are specifically Ahriman's merry band of thousand sons, most of which he stole from Amon after killing him. Personally, I would do 30k colors and fluff mine as remnants of Amon followers.