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The return of 60 multimeltas!!!! Edition
>Konor Campaign, chaos players gave up
https://konor.warhammer40000.com/

>top 5 anime squig waifu's
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/05/celebrate-30-years-of-warhammer-40000-top-5-squigsgw-homepage-post-3/

>GW FAQs (1.1):
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Rules-Errata
>FW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/15/new-and-updated-forge-world-faqs-july16gw-homepage-post-2/

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:
>Everything 8th edition in properly converted pdf & epub, fully bookmarked and linked with in-line errata annotations
https://mega.nz/#F!bF0ExS4D!_XaMECn0K9HiJKUFSopJLA

>Other Megas
https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!9NchGZyZ!-V1LhJALxDp9Tw97WzEQGA
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
>WIP Math-hammer doc (Thanks Chart-Anon!)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing
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First for Tau Empire
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Wait. When did 60 multi-metlas leave?
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9/3 for Tzeentch
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Nth for I hope everyone is having a good day and is enjoying their hobby in whatever way that may be :)
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9/11 never forget
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dubs names my WiP metal alpha legion sorcerer
Imperial fists and ultramarines need not comment
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>>55334624
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>>55334621
Thanks anon.

>>55334663
Skavaros.
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>>55334610
Smaug, plz leave
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>>55334624
Oh Woops. it's 9/11

Uhh God Bless the United States, hallowed be thy Burgers.
Forgive us our invasions, as we invade those that offend us
Lead us not into Traps, but deliver us to Trips

'Merica
>>55334663
Darky
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>>55334663
DORN
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>>55334610
In 8th.
They are fucking worthless for SoB
Now meltaguns and inferno pistols are fast enough to compensate for their lack of range
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>>55334663
Whatever that niggers name was in DoW who somehow entreated khorne despite being a psyker
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>>55334663

Rickle Pick.
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>>55334663
Alpharius.
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>>55334663
Suirahpla
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>>55334700
Truly, the dubs have abandoned us.
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>>55334700
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>>55334700
Do you not think your actions may have consequences?
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>>55334624
Best day in my life
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>>55334732
Bit rude
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>>55334732
Did you find those virgins yet?
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>>55334610
DESOLATION STATUS: ANALLY DESOLATED SMAUG LOVER.
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>>55334755
Smaug plz
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>>55334700
>terrible meme makes its way on to my model
>latest episode was shit for the first time this season in my opinion
You know I've been defending this season from everyone but this is going to make it harder
>I turned myself into a traitor morty!!! XD
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>>55334693
>Multi-meltas
>Worthless in 8th

40 keks
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>>55334779
xD
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>>55334755
>fields infinite grots with 2 shot rending lascannon flamers

so... this is the power of the frag cannon... i can defeat infinite smashfuckers in land raiders...
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>>55334754
/tg/ is full of them
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>>55334781
I was just wondering how viable they'd be but then I remembered hoard armies exist.
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>>55334781
For real, I hiss in abject horror at the thought of TWO multi-meltas coming anywhere near my precious vehicles. Quantum Shielding is great, but it wont always save you.
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>>55334779
>>latest episode was shit for the first time this season in my opinion

The 1st episode off 3rd was godly. Unfortunately, they seem to have used 95% of their creativity for the year on it.
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>>55334799
Is this Muslim hevan????
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>>55334779
Trim and clean your fucking fingernails
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>>55334804
That's what storm bolters are for, you take nothing but storm bolters and melta weapons (not JUST multi-meltas)
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>>55334779
Whoops.
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>>55334700
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>>55334779
>having taste this bad

This was a good episode. You're a moron for asking dubs to name your models though. Why would you ask people who buy into a terrible, cancerous meme to name your models, and not expect to get terrible, cancerous, meme names?
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>>55334855
Like pottery
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SOUL GRINDERS!

Been a blast, /tg/, come to /m/ anytime.
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>>55334855
>Sorcery
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Convince me that Mortarion isn't OP as fuck. It can survive an entire army of shooting at less than 500 points!
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Tell my why I shouldn't expand my Grey Knights lineup to account for every member of the 3rd Brotherhood. (that's about 103 marines)
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>>55334826
>alright time to snap a picture of this meme
>well my nails still have primer on them
>and I know how autists on 4chan love to point out shit that's not the subject of the protest
>oh well maybe no one will say anything
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>>55334781
The source of multi-melta of reliable multi-melta are Retribution and Immolator that are supper expensive.

For less you can get Seraphims or Dominions in Repressor that will get within melta range more reliably and in bigger numbers (also cheaper) than Reta and MM Immolators
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>>55334873
Deathhex.
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>>55334881
You shouldn't play gay knights.
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>>55334859
>not expecting a terrible cancerous meme
Don't you get it? That was the alpha legions plan
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>>55334889
A spell not everyone has access to.
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>>55334886
>Seraphim
>Not fucking shit

No.
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>>55334884
Not talking about the primer on the nails, it's the absolute state of your finger nails. They're not manicured and there's dirt under the top of them. What are you, some sort of pleb?
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>>55334915
Mortal Wounds, or 60 multi-meltas
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Alright so I asked this question a few threads ago but the problem has come up again in a game at my local GW. My dumbass friend insists that every unit in his Death Guard army has Disgustingly Resilient, even non-DG units like regular Chaos terminators, Havocs, and even his Defiler. Even the GW staff agreed with him despite a good number of us arguing against it. How can I prove to him that he's wrong?
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>>55334873
Convince me that a land raider isn't OP as fuck. It can survive an entire army of shooting at less than 500 points!
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>>55334930
Point at the specific rule in the book that proves him wrong.
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>>55334886
>Just use this forgeworld unit

Don't talk trash about my immolator waifus!

You can also give them to SoB troops squads
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Mah rubrics just made the switch to plastic.
So do I want to go MSU, or Reapcannons?
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>>55334930
make a similar example with the loyalist codex and see if they still agree
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>>55334930
>Staff agrees with the guy using new releases
What a fucking surprise.
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>>55334920
Seraphims with Inferno Pistols are good enough. Small units can hide behind LoS and pop something later on the game.
They are the mop up crew for Dominions
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>>55334921
>>55334921
>Manicured nails
>Male
are you a faggot
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>>55334930
Tell him every units of Blood Angels has Black Rage rules and see how the faggot likes it.
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>>55334973
Wagecuck detected
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>>55334972
Not really anon, they look cool on the table and that's about it.
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>>55334949
M-M Immolator is crap, compared to Immolation Flamer Immolator
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>>55334963
It must be tough seeing the world through a lense that everything is like some sort of jewish conspiracy against you
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>>55334925
A full Fulgurite mortal wound charge only takes 2/3 of his health off thanks to Disgustingly Resilient. Given his equipment there's almost no chance they'll manage to get all the squad into him either, and he can tank the entire rest of my army without breaking a sweat.
Honestly given the power Primarchs are currently being handed it would make sense if they conceded by victory points when killed like in 30k, or cost command points rather than providing a big pile of them at best and providing an almost impossible Slay the Warlord at worst.
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If you could go back in time only for 40k related purposes, what would you do differently?

I'd go back to when I go back into it just a few months back when 8th came out; pick up one of the Dark Imperium or Know No Fear boxes just to get back into the practice of painting with the Nurgle stuff, then paint the Primaris Marines up nicely; supplement them with a few Dreadnoughts. Then get one other faction (probably Dark Eldar, but Craftworld Eldar are a possibilty, especially if I went big on Wraithguard) and focus on them, so I'd have two decent sized armies instead of 5 (technically 6) small ones at this stage.
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>>55334921
>manicure
Tell me anon, are you a girl male?
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>>55334873
Most players will be too dumb to make an actual decent DG army around him, that's about the only saving grace.
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>>55334986
I know that opinion was burning you up inside anon, but please... Adults are talking here.
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>>55334991
>GW is jewish
you are the one being silly. shoo-shoo, silly-boy.
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>>55334993
Just take a mortarion of your own you big dummy.
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>>55335007
I wouldn't spend $500 on a horus Heresy army I never played and sold for about $350
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>>55334779
>>55334812
>>55334859
kys
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>>55334957
Both, in the CSM codex.
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>>55335008
Another wagecuck

How do you expect to pull down a reasonable salary when your hands look like a laborer's?
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>>55334957
MSU can take a cannon. Just go with terminators though, they're actually good in ts.
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>>55335020
>what is not being literal?
I'm guessing English isn't your first language?
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>>55335040
>Nihilism and irreverent violence makes a show reddit
Extremely weak bait
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>>55335040
Anon, adults are talking.
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>>55334972
Mop up crews are not rolls worth spending cash on, you'll get better results form more battle sisters or dedicated unites
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>>55335040
ow edgy
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>>55334565
>Cancer subject, cancer edtion, shitty memes.
Must be dayrmtime int ESTonia
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>>55335046
>Implying construction doesn't pay more than middle management desk jobs

Here's a secret anon, no matter what you make you'll always struggle for more.
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/11/forge-world-focus-mars-sep-11gw-homepage-post-4/

Mars faction focus.

Crawls warlord trait looks very good on him.
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>>55335079
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>>55335040
>Reddit is now pretending to be 4chan and false flagging
What a time to be alive
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>>55335040
good b8.
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>>55334565
>Full Squad of Infiltrators, armed with Flechettes or 6 Dakkastelans
>Pop the Re-Rolling 1's canticle
>Use pic related
Fucking delicious m8, Machine gos bless us, holy shit
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>>55335102
The other forge worlds had better be amazing or else there is even less reason to not use Mars.
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>>55335074
>implying SoB have bought new models
It is just a result of running old hand flamer Seraphims as inferno. Since hand flamers are shit after the nerf
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/11/forge-world-focus-mars-sep-11gw-homepage-post-4/
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>>55335046
>working a desk job
I do not envy you no matter how much you make, fortunately all they care about at my lab is that I do my work and write my reports
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>>55335120
These strategems are getting out of hand
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>>55335123
You ever wonder why there are so many Ultramarine players anon?
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>>55335102
Oh snap that looks good. Double Canticles and Mortal Wounding Kastelan volleys, plus flaying enemies with flechette bombardments or waves of rad-fire. I think this is hinting that I need another box of Kastelans, holy crap.
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>>55335120
It actually wouldn't be half bad on a full unit of Vanguards desu.
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RYZA RULES BETTER BE GOOD OR IM GONNA NECK MYSELF

MY MONTHS OF PAINTING ORANGE BETTER BE WORTH
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>>55335124
I mean in points, you fucking moron.
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>>55334943
You can kill a land raider with 1/4 what it takes to kill Mortarion.
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>>55335156
Better get that rope ready!

>ignores cover
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>>55335120
So for the guy asking how to kill mortarion, this is how
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>>55335165
STOP
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Wonderful, more Imperial shit
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>>55335123
someone leaked them a wile ago, Stygies gets the RG/AL trait, Metallica gets a 6+ fnp
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>>55335156
Enjoy your rerolls to morale
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>>55335174
Get fucked Chaos cuck
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>>55335102
If Cawl still has the Archmagos ability that becomes amazing. 9" reroll all hits including modified ones aura, plus you roll two Canticles and can adjust them so as to never roll duplicates.
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So I wanted to start playing this since forever and now with this new edition seems a good point to start. I've been looking at Grey knights and understood that they are a very low model count army. Does that mean that if I go above the minimum units required for each squad I would be gimping myself? (ie: squads of more than 5 terminators, squads of more than 3 paladins, etc).
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traithopping is the new marine->dark angels>space wolves count-as hoppers

weak pathetic fools
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>>55335171
Join me in my pain.
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>>55335165
>ignores cover
Don't be silly
>You forgot reroll failed To Wound vs. Buildings
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>>55335174
xenos soon.
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Need advice on list power.

Playing against a newbie Tau player (he has almost exactly 1000 points worth of models) next Sunday.

I've faced this collection before. He's using his characters to make fire warrior teams into some nasty ass ranged DPS, nearly cut down an entire platoon of conscripts in a shooting phase.

I've got a solid army in terms of objective taking, fire support, and damage sponge (this is the purpose of the conscripts; I bring a big blob of them and let them get beat up to take the heat off my objective holders) but I want to put some pressure on his characters.

My Ratlings are still on the painting block, so I think an imperial assassin (just one) is a nice gap filler.

Would an Eversor be a bit much?
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>>55335179
lower on the foodchain than Chaos

>>55335193
Shit ones.
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>>55334855
The fuck is this bullshit
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>>55335181
They outright state in the article that with Cawl you can ensure you'll never get a double result so he still has it.
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>>55335167
My guess is non codex armies will get an okay buff in chapter approved to at least keep up
They even said they will give armies that are going to be waiting a while some of what a codex would give them
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>>55335189
>>55335192
STOP PLEASE
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>>55335200
>nids
>shit

Get cucked tau/ork/necron fag.
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I'm trans. Would I be welcome in your gaming group?
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>>55335198
Nah, a single Eversor is fine for 1000 points.
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>>55335217
No. unless ur cute :3
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>>55335217
sure, just don't be obnoxious.
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>>55335211
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>>55335206
Cyberdong extension is reaching critical levels. That's slapped a massive patch over the crappiness of Canticles already, plus given our high fire rate units a pretty spectacular buff and we haven't even seen any generic stuff yet. This codex might actually solve some problems.
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>>55335217
sure, so long as you're not a dick
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>>55335217
Do you make a point of pointing it out to everyone/wear clothes that make it obvious.

If yes then fuck off, no one cares what you are, as long as you arent a cunt
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>>55335198
When I play a new player I always bring a more goofy list that's not as strong, I try to make it so I have to work for my win and they have a decent chance even if they make some mistakes
But then again I don't give a fuck about winning outside a tournament so you might be different
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>>55335203

I seem to be getting dubs every time I post today for some reason.
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Haven't payed attention to this warhammer in a while. How are Dark eldar in 8th?
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>>55335255
>>55335255
>>55335255
>>55335255
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>>55335236
YOU THINK YOU'RE FUNNY PUNK

WAIT TILL YOU WAKE UP WITH JOKAERO ORANGE AND TAU LIGHT OCHRE HIGHLIGHTED FINGERNAILS
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>>55335255
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>>55335259
Pretty good, mid tier.
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>>55335259
Shitty. But orks tho...
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>>55335255
the 55-man
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>>55335256
Every faction has some standout stratagems. For Chaos, I'd put the Alpha Legion one and the Cultists one as better than the leaked mars stratagem.

We'll only have legitimate codex creep if every stratagem in the codex is on this level.
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>>55335259
Pretty fun, very shooty with some reasonable melee options and good vehicles. Solid with just the Index, so it'll be interesting to see what the Codex brings.
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>Airborne Scions jump from planes
>They ain't got no goddamn brains

I have a bunch of Kasrkin and Valkyries left over from 5e and mostly unpainted, will it be worth making an airborne Scions list in 8th? I don't give a fat shit about tournaments but would it be fun? I considered using them as D99 a couple of years back, but someone pointed out that no one would want to play against an army with THAT many aircraft because non-tailored lists don't bring that much AA.
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>>55335245
Solve some problems... but create new ones. If Mars is OP, it will create a bigger problem than Ultramarines dominance. At least CSM have 3-4 viable builds from different legions, while SM are 80% Ultramarines, 10% Raven Guard and 10% others.
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>>55335120
>Corpuscarii suddenly all have Volkite laser fists
Well, guess I need myself some of those crazy bastards. Probably what I'll count as my Hoplites.
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>>55335271
They'll be better once they get a codex.
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>>55335256
I doubt Dakkastelans are going to remain completely untouched. They'll either get a point increase or something. It'll be a nice little buff for my masses of Vanguards though, much better than the D2 on 6s shit they currently have.
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>>55335255
Im casting a curse to you. You can't get more dubs for a day. Enjoy.
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>>55335250
I'm actually trying to do basically that. I want to encourage him to think about all parts of his army.

Last match he just put the characters so that they'd buff as many units as possible, which (combined with his trying to keep all his dudes in range AND in cover) resulted in a nice, wide corridor that a deep striking unit could charge them through.

I don't want to overwhelm him but I don't want to give him an easy win, either. If he thinks about properly screening his dudes I'll just toss the assassin against one of his markerlight scout units or a squad of crisis suits, but if he makes another mistake like last week I want to teach him a lesson.
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>>55335261
Shhhh anon its okay

Just bend over and take what daddy GW gives you

and bitch i paint imperial fists, come at me
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>>55335255

Forge world trait that ignores cover and gets dubs every time you post.
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>>55335286
>tfw I got 5 of them off of ebay for $20 a month ago
They're already decently fun little guys, they'll be really fun now.
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>>55335217
Well from experience...
The GW nearby would be nauseatingly nice to you to try and make you feel welcome since the manager is pretty progressive and would love some more shop diversity, but they would never mention it
The other shop is a bit older crowd that gives less of a fuck, you'd probably get some weird looks and people might get a bit awkward but after they get to know you they won't give a fuck and won't treat it as some tabu subject either
t. Trap-anon
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>>55335285
To be fair, it's less of a problem than with the Marines, since no other Forge World has a unique character and the other forges aren't so well known that players balk at a "Mars dress-up day" army. Still, not particularly happy, but maybe they'll be some generic loot too. We'll find out in a week, I guess.
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>>55335296

Well, let's test that then,
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>>55335282
Scions from valkyries can move into rapid fire range after disembarking, which is super important if you have an officer nearby. A squad of 10 scions can put out 37 hot shot lasgun bolts in a single shooting phase under rank fire, which will eat half a squad of space marines.
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>>55335288
The same can be said for basically everyone, but yeah, they're in a good place.

I can imagine if a Kabal gets the RG/AL trait, they'd be pretty nasty too.
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>>55335271
Most people at my store play space marines and chaos (plus one nid player) If I pick up my old dudes, will I be able to compete?
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What is /40kg/ working on? Conversions? Painting? Assembling?
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>>55335255
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>>55335211
+1 to hit vs Traitor Vehicles
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>>55335331
wondering if ill get my codex before Christmas

Im guessing no, too many Imperial codexs they gotta release first
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>>55335331
Mark 2 marines for a Horus Heresy escalation league in my area. Fuck painting rivets.
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Neat, my Anniversary Primaris Captain has 1 bid on eBay. Hope to make a nice profit.
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>>55335330
You'll be at a disadvantage since you're lacking a codex and they have their unique traits and stratagems though it's by no means a guaranteed stomp if you play smart.
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>>55335331
I really love everything in this picture.

Also painting up my Guard. Shit takes forever.
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>>55335330
Mine have been holding up pretty well; Reavers, Scourges and Blasterspam is all nice against Marines, I've put together a Haemonuculus for characters hunting but haven't had a chance to use it.
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>>55335358
Are you Nids/Guard/CWE? If no, then no.
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>>55335331
>that smug face
>the face of the other guy who just realized he lost turn one
The chudat of 40k
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>>55335317
Im a sorcerer. BEHOLD, DUBS!
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>>55335331
Working on my Relictors, trying to figure out which army I'm going to try finish off painting/building to reach 2000 points in a bit under a week and a bit.
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>>55335361
>profit
Fucking capitalists are ruining 40k
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>>55335378
>4 codexs in 3 months
maybe by next August then.
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>>55335386
Where's that sword from?
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Why they don't release Sororitas codex now?
We all know that they will get nothing new and 90% of codex will be copy and paste from AS 6th and Index Imperium.
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>>55335120
6 Robots only get it on the first group of shots. Otherwise it would be insane. Still with Cawl its about 7 MW.

Looking at the options the most realistic use while getting real value out it probably is with Corpuscarii, or going all in on robots.
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>>55335417

They're probably holding off until the plastic model release.
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>>55334873
If you don't blob all your shit in one place he'll have some difficulty making an impact, you can play to points and whitle him down if your an army with the resources to bother, i.e. can ignore invul/ shit put mortal wounds.
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>>55335331
Trying to have 1700 pts of alpha legion done by the end of the month
Not as hard as you think when I already have 60 painted cultists and am taking 2 squads of termies in this list
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>>55335437
>slowpoke.png
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>>55335437
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>>55335417
GW is run by Dark Eldar, they want us to suffer before they take our money.
They want to drag it out to give us a sliver of hope. And then you'll get nothing.
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Anyone else play pure Human Guard?
No gross mutis, FW, or other faction units

What do you play?
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>>55335443
>plastic sisters
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>>55335417
Anon you're getting an entire plastic line next year
Be patient
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>>55335040
>Using a K-ON!! stock pic whilst critically defaming a series for lack of depth.

So sad to have the OC with such an awesome sense of humor and then kids like you on the other side of poe's law completely overlook it.
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>>55335451

If only we had more than 2 HQs and there were some interesting support HQs we could give improved bubble buffs from.
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>>55335450
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>>55335331
Recently started the actual 40k tabletop game instead of just shitposting. Working on my first Nobs
the idea is for this to be a pirate-y Freeboota army, I'll see how it turns out
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>>55335331
magnetizing a stormhawk so it can be a stormtalon too
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>>55335369
Please explain it then. I've yet to play a single game so i have no idea what i'm looking at.
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Is Gastaph Hediatrix the fabricator general?
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>>55335464

Ever since we got plastic admech, then plastic harlequins in the same year, the clock has been ticking on sisters.

It's pure memery that we won't at this point.
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>>55335404
Age of Sigmar, I think, not sure exactly what from. I picked up a bunch of Chaosy looking swords from bits shops on ebay.
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>>55335456
Most recent tryhard list is artilary, conscripts, and scions
Only FW model I had was a thunderbolt and that was for pure cool value, it's pretty balanced
When I'm not in a tourney or something I'll usually play lots of russes, rough riders, and ogryns, so I'm not against using sanctioned mutants either
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>>55335467
We are getting "new plastic sisters" from 10 years
Even Custodes get plastic models and take their asses off Terra, and SoB are still in 2003.
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>>55335476
Really liking what you've got there.
Where'd ya get the bits? Had to kitbash mine out of whatever I had
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>>55335487
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>>55335527
>probably
>40%
well not quite anon
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>>55335509
That's fucking great
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>>55335476
Those are some hella neat models
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>>55334881
I actually just finished doing exactly that. Lots of fun. Still waiting for Stern to be available though.
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>>55335535
Did we have any of the other data sheets or is it just this friendly feller
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>>55335539
If the rest of the spread is smaller segments is would be the most probable.
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>>55335509
>WAACfag using cheesy null deploy gimmick gets counter trolled
Not bad at all, zero sympathy, he should have looked at the other guy's list and figured out what was about to happen
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>>55335509
a modern hero
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>>55335535
Very cool.
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>>55335509
Is bringing nothing but bikes actually powergaming [s]in fifth[/s]
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>>55335535
>Bile Spurt
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Can someone explain why Cawl's warlord trait is good? I mean his aura is fantastic no arguments here. But when is 6" not really enough?
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>>55335527
>probably
>40%
I expect nothing less from 40kg
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>>55335570
Lel
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>>55335557
That's the only one I've seen so far.
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>>55335570
9 is a bigger number than 6
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>>55335570

9 lets you incorporate way more units, where's the confusion?
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>>55335570
>when is 6" not really enough?

t. someone who hasn't met women
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Does anyone have a size comparison between a 'Orkanaught, Dreadknight and Defiler?
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>>55335570
>12"bubble is just as good as 18"

Okay
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>>55335527
>look mom someone mentioned trans people in 40kg again, this is my chance to vomit my opinion and statistics no one cares about!!
Why do you always do this?
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>>55335557
>>55335579

Was trying to figure out what it would look like.
Thank you anon.
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>>55335575
>>55335539
>>55335527
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>>55335593
Well, you're probably interpreting it wrong.
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>>55334889
Even with Deathhex he's non-trivial to take down as he still has DR and potentially Deathshroud Termies. Plus he's his own Deny the Witch.
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>>55335599
Found one with Defiler/DreadKnight
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>>55335570
Mostly because a 9" radius circle has over twice the area of a 6" radius circle even without considering that Cawl himself is on a large base. That's gone from a tightly packed gunblob to a more distributed gunline it's just a good chunk more maneuver room. Not a terrible idea to still keep them blobbed for ease of screening, but flexibility is always useful.
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>>55335603
"People"
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>>55335570
>Not the length of your bubble but how you deploy. Trust me plenty of my opponents have told me that my bubble is perfectly sized. I've never had any complaints.
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>>55335593
>40% is somewhere around half, so.................
So, You know, only a 20% less chance, I guess this goes to show transphobes are retarded
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>>55335509
Good. Faggots like that deserve their just desserts
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>>55335599
>>55335619
Orkanaught's around the same size as an Imp Knight.
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>>55335611
See
>>55335603
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>>55335619
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We're testing some points changes in necrons. Specifically, point decreases on warriors and immortals. The c'tan all get a unique power for them (there's a unique deceiver power, a unique night bringer power, and a unique power for the new c'tan unit).

For stratagems, we're trying to make stratagems that reflect how crazy necron tech is. for instance, we're trying to make a balanced stratagem that reflects one dynasty's ability to blink out the star that the battle is orbiting around. It is hard to do justice though, because it's such a powerful effect in lore, but how do you make a stratagem that powerful without completely unbalancing the game.

So that one is a maybe. We're still working on it.

Characters, like Trazyn, are getting their own stratagems. Trazyn is a fun one. For 3 CP and the regular points cost he can include any unit from any army in his list, as long as that unit isn't something you can only include one of in its army (so no guillman). That unit starts in reserve, and at the end of a movement phase, Trazyn can deploy it within 12 inches of himself, and more than 9 inches away from any enemy unit.

You don't get to control the unit. Instead, the unit acts independently in your turn. It moves to the closest enemy unit and shoots and charges the closest enemy units. The kicker is that this unit considers your own units enemies as well as your opponent's units. If at any point there is a tie for closest unit, each player rolls off to determine which is being moved towards/shot/charged. So it becomes a careful positioning game.
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>>55335456
I do!

I mean I have Psykers, ratlings, and ogryns, but I don't always USE them.
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>>55335579
Henceforth to be known as "bloat drones" and the foetids to be known as "float drones"
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>>55335634
Please kill yourself. You know it's for the best.
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>>55335622
Wait, no, fucked extremely basic maths up. It's 1.5 times the area as might be expected. I was doing spheres for some reason. Still rather good.
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>>55335636
You're right, I shouldn't give an attention whore what they want
So I'll just report and ignore you, take it easy man
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>>55335652
Necrons get Bersekers
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Lore-wise, does the Ecclesiarchy have anything resembling an Inquisitor? As in, do they have any kind of agent who can move freely with a degree of authority?
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>>55335563
Null deployment and rushing objectives were, it was a different time, with less faggots, no stratagems, decurions, knights, primaris, primarchs, wraithknights, riptides, or that trash.

I miss it.
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>>55335183
Its not so much gimpin as you will have to pay more for more models.
Its a low model count army because they cost so many points just for a few, but the few you have are pretty stronk.
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>>55335651
>basic math is hard
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>>55335500
I can still remember "plastic sisters and greatcoat guard soon" threads from 2006.
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>>55335509

I thought you could obly have a certain percent of your models in reserves? Can you hold back your whole army during deployment??
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>>55335690
is this one of them chick tyes?
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>>55335417
>Will have to wait months before we can use Veridyan
>Won't get new models
>Our melta will likely get nerfed into uselessness
>Penitent Engines still won't be good
>Still no forseeable plastic line soon
One day, the suffering of the Sisters will end.
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>>55335679
We're hoping it conveys how anything imprisoned in Trazyn's labryinth will emerge confused and angry as hell.
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>>55335563
The reason 8th ed. has rules that you must deploy half you units normally and immediately lose if you have no units deployed on the field is because this stuff was so degenerate in the past.
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>>55335217
Are you anything else or is that your entire personality and center of every conversation ?
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>>55335706
Sisters are one of the strongest armies in 8th ed.
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>>55335599
Here you are
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So...

Flamestorm gauntlets or Auto boltstorm gauntlets for the Primaris Agressors?
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>>55335723
And you think GW will let us keep the things making us strong? I hold no such delusions.
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Its that time again folks! Post HQs!
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>>55335504
>>55335550
well shit, thanks Anons
its the best I could do by combining Flash Git and Nob kits
I'm quite pleased with the Nobs but I'm not looking forward to the Boyz stage
although its gonna be a mostly elite shooty list so it may not be good but I'll be happy
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>>55335744
Boltstorm
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>>55335643
>>55335734
>>55335619
Ah fuck, guess neither of my looted walkers will measure up to count as a 'nauth, only the as a shitty Meka dread.

But thanks.
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>>55335751
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>>55335744
Bolt: 6+D6 at 18 is better than 2d6 at 8, also more likly to be able to double tap
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>>55335734
Can someone shoop the BRAZZERS logo on that pic?
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>>55335751
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>>55335772
>tfw your shit is gunna get meme'd
at least make it Blacked.com
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>tfw thinking of getting into 40k and grabbing up a DG army
>feel bad because everyone and their dog will be making one now
cest la vie
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>>55335750
I had my suspicions but still added because I like the shitshow it always causes
What are you gonna spend all those (you)'s on?
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>>55335748
They may nerf Celestine. But I doubt they'll hit much else. And I find the "performative self-flaggelating Sisters player" meme annoying.
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>>55335282

https://spikeybits.com/2017/06/vulture-vendetta-8th-rules-datasheets-spotted.html

Vultures are getting rules and Vendetta transport capacity was untucked, looks like a good edition to play Wagner

>Twin Punisher Cannon
>Heavy 40

DAKKA evolved into BRRRT!
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>>55335706
Yea like Bretonia
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>>55335787
>start guard 8 months before 8th drops
>Most broken army in the game
>start alpha legion a week before chaos codex is announced
>best legion chaos has
Everything I touch turns to gold like king Midas and everyone calls me a WAACfag
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Is there anyway to YourGuy(Girl) a character like Yarrick?
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>>55335331
Nobs
God I fucking love nobs
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>>55335821
Could you start a Necron army? I'm tired of having them be the worst one in the game.
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>>55335896
Not sure if Bait or just bad
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>>55335751
I'll be honest, the poses make them look like they're boogie-ing down
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>>55335509

>haha that power gamer faggot playing in what's obviously a tournament got beat by someone who's probably also a power gamer faggot
>t-that'll show him
>h-haha

The eternal state of fluff bunnies
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>>55335436
nope, it says any sixes for wound rolls for that unit.
since it does not explicitly say it only counts for one shooting attack they get it for both.
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>>55335476
These look awesome, love pirate orks
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>>55335896
Sorry anon
i started them in anticipation for their seventh edition codex
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>>55335902
What would you say are the bottom five armies? Inquisition and talons of the emperor dont count since they are clearly made to be allies
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>>55335829
If you're in it for the Your Dudes, no need.
If you're in it for the wins, don't pretend like you care.
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>>55335775
>>55335751
Weirdboys!
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>>55335917
So does that stratagem buff a unit for the rest of the game?
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>>55335896
>he thinks his army is the worst in the game
Nigger let me tell you something about bad armies.
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>>55335946
KSons not being allowed in the codex is up there, especially what with them not scheduled to get theirs for months.
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>>55335972
>before it attacks in a shooting phase
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>>55335985
Inquisition is as much of an army as Talons are.
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>>55335535
Source?

More?
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>>55335985
>he thinks Inq is a full army
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>>55335167
>Codex creep.
It was always real anon.
Those that get their codex last this edition will get utterly shat on for atleast another 6 months from now.
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>mfw shooty Space Marine armies
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>>55335744
Depends on CT imo
Flame for Ultramarines.
Bolt on everyone else
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>>55336043
>mfw people play marine armies
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>>55335925
oh geez I didnt expect so many nice (you)s
thanks
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>>55335702

That was a rule introduced precisely because of shit like this.
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Why is green tide so fun?
>>
Are there any good Warhammer 40k novels with a female protagonist? I want a grimdark waifu.
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>>55336055
Because you play on a parking lot?

100+ boys in a blob moving between terrain is a fucking pain.
>>
>The Citadel Paint app is out on Saturday, meaning disputes over the colour of Astra Militarum uniforms are a thing of the past...
Wait...does GW know about PEACH?
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>>55336068
Look up the new shit with Greyfax, Celestine, and/or Yvarine
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>>55336055
Because your opponent is having fun killing tons of shit every turn and you're having fun rolling billions of dice
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>>55335987
>We will begin a campaign, and feed the Thousand Sons hope, and watch them crawl over eachother to stay in the sun
>Then, we will fulfil Games Workshop's mandate, and destroy it. Bring it crumbling down.
>When your campaign is... ashes. Then, you have my permission to get a shit codex.
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>all these delicious Chaos tears over Konor
Chaos tears are always flowing, but these are a special kind. And they are great.
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>>55336078
Get better fingers faget
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>>55336068
Ciaphas Cain has a inquisitor that shows up a lot that is decently wifable
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>>55336068
Play/Watch Space Marine
Acquire QT Guard Waifu who values duty and her men over all else.
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>>55336094
I see none.
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>>55335102
Double random canticles seems pretty shit compared to chapter and legion tactics. There are generally only two possible good results in any given turn so a lot of the time you will have nothing helpful and even if you get lucky and roll the best ones, any one canticle is inferior to most marine tactics. Unless the canticles themselves get buffed or there is a general price drop / power boost mars admech are not going to be competitive.
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>>55336068
Enforcer series. Daemonifuge Graphic Novel. James Swallows SoB books.
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>>55335987
>KSons
>Bottom 5
>With Magnus

Lol.
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I kitbashed some terminator powerfists into lightning claws, some turned out great and some turned out pretty meh.
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???

What?
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>>55336138
on the termies themselves, I'm gonna make some candles and buy that box o skulls to make em walking shrines.
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>>55336048
Only the absolute best Marines there are. SMs are at their best with jump packs and chainswords.
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>>55336152
We've been through this, dummy.
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>>55336152
It's a "clueless writer looks up random names on the webstore" episode.
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>>55336120

Cawl can +/- one space on the table. 2d6 with +/- 1 on both is a pretty decent probability space.
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>>55336055
Because with 30 boys, 5 attack each, you essentially delete whatever you touch. Add a Banna Nob for good measure.

Charge Terminators? Delete
Charge a Knight? Delete
I'd Delete Draigos and Deddogs and Yarricks
I'd Wipe Abbadons and Guillimans and More
You see a unit? I see a consolidate.
But, don't you see, I have Five More.
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>>55334754
There are no afterlife in my religion
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>>55336152
We've been over this multiple times anon, give it a rest and go back to posting about black on black paint
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>painting black over black

N-nani?!
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>>55336126
Arbites models for necromunda when?!?
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>Be me
>Love the Word Bearers since introduction to the hobby
>Buy things for Necrons, Guard and Grey Knights through 5th and 6th
>Never more than 1 or 2 things for each
>Finally decide to collect an army
>Orks.jpeg
>Have fun through 7th
>CAN'T STAND PAINTING SO MANY SHIRTY LITTLE MODELS WHY THE FUCK DO MY 100 BOYZ EACH NEED LIKE 4 BELTS
>Decide to start a new army for 8th that I'll have fun painting
>wordbearersincoming.png
>Buys Primaris

What's wrong with me TG am I an autist?
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>>55336132
Sorry I don't use shit primarchs.
Can I take a LoC which does the exact same thing instead?
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>>55336185
>Chaos Black spray has a different finish than Armless Black. In case you fuck up and need to touch up the black.
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>>55335985
The only thing that sucks about inquisitors is they can't take nicer gear (like power armour or invulnerable saves), and that they don't give their quarry as an aura to friendly units.
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>>55336185
The primer is a slightly different shade of black than the paint, so if you have to go back over spots after painting your other colors its gonna look weird
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>>55336192
>what is a bottom five army?
>thousand sons suck!
>but you have Magnus?
>well I handicap myself and don't use him!!
So the entire army sucks for everyone because of your subjective view that doesn't allow you to take Magnus?
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>>55336120
Well, you have a 75% chance of pulling Shroudpsalm every turn and Cawl gives mass rerolls. That means you're running around with 1+ Sv. HQs, 2+ Sv. Crawlers and Kastelans and 3+ Skitarii, which isn't half bad when you can ACTIVATE DOOM MODE for Mortal Wounds en masse.
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>>55336126
Faith and Fire pissed me off so much. The "villain" was right and legit was on a path to moving the setting forward and some dumbass SoB fuck it up.
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>>55336191
Why can't the Primaris be word bearers?

Also doesn't help that they're the cheapest crack GW has ever released.
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>>55336068
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>>55336177
>>55336185
>calls it right before
>with dubs
Is this nigga dead?
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>>55336192
>Can I take a LoC which does the exact same thing instead?
LOC can't:
Get a 3++ rerolling 1s
Blend units in melee
Get a d6/2d6 smite
Warp Time across the battle field
Remove invulnerable saves via Death Hex.

Tho you CAN be a twat and get the FW LoC who is PRETTY good. But regular LOCs are a waste of points.
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>>55336092
>give hope and then switch to a different plan
Sounds fun, just like what Tzeentch might plan.
I actually kinda hope the codex does have some nerfs though, at least in the form of something like a points cost raise for Magnus so I don't have to be associated with WAAC-fags anymore and can just appreciate space Egyptians.
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>>55336220
If you wanna pay for him, Exalteds and Rubrics, go right ahead.
I'll be waiting over here with triple the number of Primarines
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>>55335809
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>>55336126
>tfw Daemonifuge was my first introduction to Sisters
Why the hell did this have to die, and why doesn't GW do anything with Stern nowadays?
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>>55336192
Just take the super chicken like everyone else
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>>55336255
Also that was a batman reference
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>>55336285
Yeah, I know. I just wanted to make some discussion with it.
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>>55336269
GW seems to like abandoning comics
Still waiting for the squeal to Lone Wolf that was mentioned in the back of the fucking book.
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I wish Electropriests were just a character, they seem weird as a unit.
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>>55336275
I hate to say but I don't like using uniques.
Also daemons are ugly which is why I wanted to play as golems in the first place.
Then my army got cleaver'd with 8th so I have to throw out my raptors and vanillamarines.
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>>55335972
technically yes as it never states when the effect stops.

>welcome to RAW.
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>>55336296
There's also a disney reference up there too.
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>>55336068
Well be getting this soon.
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>>55335751
Oh snap it's 2% milkron and the boys
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What's the best Ork list you can make with a No Triplicate units rule?
Shoota/Slugga boys counts as separate units.
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>>55335807
Slowpoke.jpg
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>>55336363
Seriously, does Dubs have some kind of bald and top knot fetish ?
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>>55336220
I bet you rated Tyranids as a low-high-tier army in 7th.
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>>55336392
1000pts
Ghaz
Badrukk

30 sluggas
30 shootas
30 grots

Banna Nob

10 FG's
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>>55336442
No Wierdboy?
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>>55336430
>Tau in 7th suck!
>But you have riptides
>I don't take them, they're stupid

Hmm..
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>>55336466
In the middle of 90 Orks are you inSayan?
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>>55336430
No I rated them as a higher low tier army
Flyant spam was nowhere near high tier at the end of 7th
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>>55336468
If the only way Tau could be not shit in 7th was to spam riptides it's no wonder they were a waacfag army.
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>>55336231
While I was waiting for payday to buy chaos shit I saw one of them "roll for which chapter you make" pics.

And what kind of anon doesn't deliver?
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>>55336482
>90 Orks
Grots aren't Orks.
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>>55336468
Tau were amazing in 7th even without any suit bigger than a Broadside. In fact you didn't even need suitspam to be viable against high tier armies after the Taucurion that nobody ever actually used because m-muh Riptides.
If we're ignoring Riptides though the HRC and Ta'unar in general were able to cement Tau as a high tier army if not the bottom of top-tier.

t. FSE player through 6th and 7th
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>>55336506
#grotlivesmatter
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>>55336521

One of my armies is Farsight, and I haven't been assed fielding it since 8th dropped because the model count of any given force has plummeted and it's too hard to reliably score BS3+.

I don't even want to hit at 2+, I just want the same veteran shooting every other elite shooting army gets!
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>>55336540
I miss them having rules for being living cover and mine-clearers.
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Trying to sell some old minatures.

Put 14 striking scorpions in one batch? Should I split it in two?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/272842949006?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
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>>55335579
Are they a twin kit with the flying things? That's pretty cool, if so.
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>>55335606
It's cute
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>>55336407
you don't?
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>>55336606
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>>55335751
>the squad cometh
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>>55336686
>>55336606
vroom vroom

that is super cute
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>>55336686

Fleshmower and bile hauler are friends.
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>tfw named my OC chapter the aggressors
>tfw I hate agressors

Also, is this a good list?

>captain with jump pack (129)
>lieutenant (60)

>assault termaintors: all TH/SS (260)
>8 jump pack vanguard: all TH/SS (312)
>relic Contemptor: twin lascannon, chainfist (233)

>Stormtalon gunship: assault Cannon, typhoon
missiles (195)

>Scouts: camo cloaks (70)
>Scouts: camo cloaks (70)
>intercessors: dunno which gun (100)

>razorback: twin assault Cannon (100)
>devestator squad: missile launchers or lascannons (165)
>leviathan Dreadnought: twin storm Cannon (309)

Should I drop the stormtalon? Also what should I do to make the alphastrike ability more useful?
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>>55335913
>55335913
Obyron looks like he's upset because everyone's having a good time and he's the driver for the night
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>>55336723
Obyron's master is batshit insane and while everyone else is this eccentric demagogue he's just a bodyguard who only knows war
He's absolutely the straight man
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>>55336713
A bit low on dudes for my taste.
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>>55336168
Yeah, but unless they change them, the most important ones are four and six. That means you have a 2/6 chance of rolling an useless result with each dice.

The exact odds of getting either something useless or a duplicate are a little too much for me to bother working out right now, but at a glance it seems like more than half the time you would be better off picking one instead of rolling two and a good portion of the rest will only give you one canticle anyway.

Basically, it only helps when you've already used the results you wanted (i.e. you are in a shooting match with an enemy who doesn't want to close the distance and it's round 3 or later).

That's incredibly bad compared to 6+ ignore wounds or -1 to enemy shooting.
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>>55336726
See
>>55335750
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Just got a lot of Purple and Gold space marines from a friend.
Here's what I made of it

1505 Hawk Lords
Vanguard

Captain 98pts
MC boltgun, Relic Sword, Santic Halo

Tac Squad 90pts
3x Marine 1x Missile Launcher

Dreadnought 146pts
Twin Heavy Flamer, Combat Weapon/Storm Bolter

Dreadnought 146pts
Twin Heavy Flamer, Combat Weapon/Storm Bolter

Dreadnought 146pts
Twin Heavy Flamer, Combat Weapon/Storm Bolter

Venerable Dreadnought 165
Missile Launcher, Twin Lascannon

Terminator Squad 312pts
7x Terminator
Power Fist, Storm Bolter

Predator 160pts
Twin Lascannon, 2 Heavy Bolter

Predator 160pts
Twin Lascannon, 2 Heavy Bolter

Razorback 82pts
Twin Heavy Bolter


Any changes I should make to this?
I think there are a few speeders with Flamers and a lot more Tac marines in the box I got. 2 more Terrmies and another Sargent for them too.
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Making a new thread
Post waifus so I may use one for the op image
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>>55336822
How 'bout husbandos?
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>>55336822
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>>55336822
Denied.

>>55336831
>>55336831
>>55336831

New Thread
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>>55336793
Yeah, you think grabbing a second razorback and cramming them full of power axe/storm shield vets is a good idea?

Or maybe a few bike squads?
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>>55336827
Can't quite make it out, is he reading A Thousand Sons, or The Bullying Of Prospero?
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>>55336858
A Thousand Sons
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>>55336222
Eh, first turn you are generally better off with benediction, because you will still be in the cover you deployed into. Second turn shroudpsalm is great. Third turn there's a decent chance you will be in close combat, so you want invocation or litany... choosing is pretty much better than rolling unless you build your army around getting maximum benefit from shroudpsalm.
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>>55336048
>being a chaoscuck
>being an NPC
Lmao at your life
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>>55335487
Newfag
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>>55335751
Please excuse the location, I wss packing them into a case
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>>55336928
Regular fag
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>>55336392
Double double kommandos, double stormboyz, double nobz with kombi skorchas in double big trakks with supa skorchas, double maximum size mek guns with kmk, double dakkajets, zagstrukk, snikrot, double big mek with kff (one guarding the mek gunz, one in a big trakk), grotsnik (in the other trakk).
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>>55336557
Postage and transaction fees tend to make it better to sell in fairly big lumps even if it seems that you aren't getting as much per model.
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>>55336951
Fag
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>>55335535
Is this some form of the Blight-Drone or is this the new artillery unit for DG?
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>>55337294
Pretty sure its the Cute Blight Drone on Tracks
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>>55336160
Fuck I would give anything for the FW model to be based on this pic, helmet and all.

We can only dream.
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>>55336317
Fuuuck it was going to be on a feudal world right?

Those preview pics got me so hyped.
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Has anyone made a printable PDF for the 8th edition Tactical Objectives yet, or an app?
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>>55335174
This is what you get for ruining fantasy Chaos cuck.
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>>55334884
This is awful late but anyone got sauce on this?
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>>55335217
Only if you're a convincing trap and if so only if we have sex regularly
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