Warhammer 40k General /40kg/

First for Death Guard taking sexy back

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Second for Blight-Hauler best waifu

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>not grey babbys pls go edition
oh great

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Welcome back, did you remember to thin your paints today?

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ROT N' ROLLS!
hur hur hur

Why'd GW ignore Dark Angels in the Space Marines Codex for 8th?
they getting their own?

>>55329253
Is that another fast attack for death guard?

Is it just me, or are blight with flails really really good?
Or am I missing some restriction on them, because as far as I can tell, they're fucking amazing.

Time to send out the soul grinders!

>>55329260
Obviously because Dark Angels are really traitors in disguise and will get their own codex as such in mid-2018.

>>55329272
Do we know how much they are?

>>55329260
>why is the army which hasn't been part of C:SM since the thing has existed not in C:SM
We just don't know anon, we just don't know

10 man Raven Guard Intercessors squads that'll be hanging back, standard bolt rifles or auto bolt rifles? I'm not sure if at 10 strong they get more out of -1 AP or that volume of fire at 16"+

Anyone got an idea of what a dark mechanicus style list would look like, and how to make it decent on the tabletop?

FW gave us the chaos hellwright. I bought a decimator with two soulburner petards recently, then they FAQd the weapons to cost double because niggers.

Definitely thinking about a leviathan with the grav flux bombard since horde meta at the moment.

Any proper suggestions or units I should really be looking at?

>>55329286
48 points per guy for 3A S7 AP-2 D2, reroll 1s to wound, make D3 hits for each attack made with this weapon instead of one, damage from the weapon is not lost but instead carries over. Can be taken in units from 5 to 10.

>>55329292
>Raven Guard
>hanging back
Stalkers

>>55329263
It is

>10" a turn
>no move and fire penalty
>+1 cover save aura
>-1 to hit in close combat
>3+ 5++ 5+++

MVP

>>55329260
They're getting their own codex complete with Lion returned, obviously.

>>55329310
>>55329274
Hope is the First step on the road to DISSAPOINTMENT

>>55329303
Are they seriously S5 A3 base? That sounds wrong.

>>55329303
So a melee autocannon, neato

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You know what would be cool for the next campaign?
Emperor's Children vs Grey Knights
Then when some Grey Knights summon Draigo to fight Fulgrim, Fulgrim just casually asks how Slaanesh is doing back in the garden and Draigo slays his summoner and quips that she's doing 'perfectly' in a dreamy voice.
Because fuck Grey Knights.

>>55329330
According to this video:
https://youtu.be/bJSis6ePay0
They are

>>55329310
They confirmed Lion was next Primarch at the last convention.

Best armies for a new player?

Cheapest way to get started?

>>55329336
>chaosfags still butthurt over the autist from last thread
Fuck you, you're no better than people who purposely try to trigger carnac. Go shitpost somewhere else

>>55329347
Source?

>>55329347
Literally no where else on the internet did anyone claim it

>>55329358
Shitfling pt2

>>55329336
>some Grey Knights summon Draigo
>summon Draigo

THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF THE WARP

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>>55329336
>The mere mention of Draigo makes chaoscucks THIS assmad

>>55329305
...are they worth the chunk of points I have to throw into the squads though?

>>55329348
>Best armies for a new player?
Whatever you're interested in
>Cheapest way to get started?
Start collecting, unless your interested in marines or CSM, in which case one of the dark imperium boxes

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>>55329346

S4 A2 like CSM terminators seems more likely. 2d3 S6 attacks is still amazing.

>>55329348

Space marines.

Starter set and start collecting boxes.

>>55329348
Marines are the best bet but not the only option

>>55329358
I just want to see my army at the forefront of a campaign.
Ultramarines vs Deathguard just happened, let's do all the cult Legions vs Mary Sue Chapters.
>>55329374
You know who is better written than Draigo?
Abaddon. not by much though

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>>55329336
I like it desu, the setting needs more drama, more give and take. If only konor was a death guard win, that would have been actually interesting...

>>55329388
It would put them with the same stats as deathshroud, and basing them off regular chaos termies makes little sense since everything else is already so different about them.

>>55329348
Easiest to learn/play? Space Marines.

Easiest for the hobby in general? Necrons.

>>55329348
Orks are probably the best army for a new player in 8th to be honest. Most horde armies are. Only edge Orks have over the others is the extremely creative freedom Ork players have with their models in terms of kitbashing and not looking out of place.

>>55329375
Depends how far you want them hanging back. 36" range and AP-2 is pretty nice.

>>55329374
>accuse the opposition of being unreasonable to diatract from the fact that youre a fanboy and inherently unreasonable
Saul Alinsky was a mistake

>>55329408
Deathshroud are 50 points base though, the Blight Boyz are 38.

Makes sense for the Shrouds to have better stats.

>>55329255
>grey babbys
>not Gay Knights

>>55329303
Ever since they showed that weapon in the CSM codex I've wanted a unit full of them. It's time.

>>55329401
>If only konor was a death guard win, that would have been actually interesting...
>chaos wins again but does no real long term damage
>interesting
Yeah, nah, you're a cunt. Of had been xenos, then that'd be something, or if it had been over something besides a random sector, like whatever the Ad mech psykic stc was, then you'd have a point. But "chaos shows up, destroys this thing, then gets beaten back" for the millionth time? Fuck off with that shit ya cunt

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>>55329398
>Abaddon
>Better written than literally anyone

>>55329447
You won't be able to take a full unit of them, that would be idiot strong.

Would be an amazing anti-horde unit though.

>>55329441
Anon this is 40kekg, this people are deliberately derailing the thread.

>>55329426
>horde armies good for newbs
No
>army with extensive kitbashing and more complexity than apply glue here
Double No

>>55329401
Hey the campaign isn't over.
But yeah it's totally an Imperium win, they fixed it too hard on the first 3 planets, realised it wouldn't be interesting if Imperium won every planet, let Chaos have two, then announced whoever won the last planet won the campaign for "drama points".
I hope someone at GW got fired for this shit show, Morty isn't even released during his own campaign, CSM codex didn't show until week 3, it's like whoever designed the campaign has never heard of subtlety.
>>55329455
Being better written than Draigo isn't an accomplishment, or even anything noteworthy.

>>55329442
Shrouds extra points come over blightlords comes from the intercept and +1 A to DG character rules, it makes no sense for blightlords to cost 7 points more than Chaos termies just for +1 invul and T, Disgustingly resilient and -1 move.

>>55329441
>"Muh Chaos is all-powerful and immortal and unstoppable and destined to always win everything forever! Just looking at it corrupts anyone, nobody can resist!"
>"I'm totes not a fanboy though."

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>>55329398
>Abaddon.

>>55329450
>gets beaten back
Thats what makes the lore shitty, they need campaign to end with
>that part of the sector was lost
once in a while, for the sake of both chaos and the imperium, to keep it engaging.

Why is GW's writing staff littered with fanboys that live to write shitty fanfiction shilling their favorite factions and OCs and inserting it into the canon, /tg/?

And why are none of them Ork fanbois? If we have to get a faction shoved down our throats at least it could be an interesting one

>>55329491
>keeps using "totes" unironically
Heres one last (You) now fuck off with your lack of arguements

i don't get nurgal, he promises an eternal life without pain but his whole gimmick is centered around dying and his reincarnated followers all have multiple diseases and i assume would be in pain constantly.

>>55328185
Enclaves are getting power weapon equivalents. Axe, Sword, Fist, but with anime sounding names.

>>55328220
Yes actually. Their unique stratagem is giving units vanguard (the timing is unique. You get to use it after deployment is done, so your opponent doesn't necessarily know which units you're going to move while he's setting up). The faction bonus is that if a unit has no markerlight counters on it, ANY attack by a tau ranged weapon will generate one markerlight on a successful hit.

>>55329485
Plague marines are 6 points more expensive than regular marines for almost the exact same thing, and I personally think +1 invuln is worth one point.

>>55329510

Because doing so creates fanboyism and counter fanboyism, which drives up sales and keeps people talking about warhammer.

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>>55329510
>And why are none of them Ork fanbois
>Apparently hadn't read the series where a primarch gets killed, an entire original SM chapter goes extinct, and Terra almost falls because of Orks.

>>55329528
>anime sounding names
Sounds just perfect
Now what the hell does GW think sounds anime?
Onager=power fist

>>55329521
>Literally has no argument besides "Draigo hurts my feefee. No one can beat Chaos at anything, ever!"

>>55329539
Except +1 invul comes at the cost of M4", just like it always has with cataphrachtii.

>>55329462
You shut your mouth! I WILL be able to!

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>>55329526
Nah they lose feeling and sense of pain more or less, think zombies.

The humans usually die and become poxwalkers though, thats not great, or they can become "immortal" as the souls who become plaguebearers.

>>55329528
>The faction bonus is that if a unit has no markerlight counters on it, ANY attack by a tau ranged weapon will generate one markerlight on a successful hit
Well that's not broken at all...

>>55329374
>super holy grey knight mary sue that would win many wars in realspace if he was allowed back full time is permanently stuck in the warp endlessly spilling daemonic blood but never accomplishing anything.

I don't see how this isn't a khorne victory.

>>55329528
So the first ML hit generates two tokens?
Would work well with missiles if those were worthwhile

>>55329528
Holy shit that sounds awesome. Networked Markerlights as a factional rule? That's really damn strong (though still not as retarded as Raven Guard chapter tactics).

And the anime power weapons sound cool too.

>>55329472
>implying exposing newbs to the creative side to the hobby as soon as possible is a bad idea
You wot m8?

>>55329475
>But yeah it's totally an Imperium win, they fixed it too hard on the first 3 planets, realised it wouldn't be interesting if Imperium won every planet, let Chaos have two, then announced whoever won the last planet won the campaign for "drama points".

We'll get the results in a little less than 5 hrs, 20 min, so we'll see what happens. All the Imperium needs to do is hold onto that lead for 5 more hours (most stores should be closed by this point, so the points are probably just being totaled now).

>>55329510
>And why are none of them Ork fanbois?
I keep asking myself that same question.
I mean, Black Library did give us the Beast Arises Series (which was so humiliating that the Inquisition wiped all traces of it from the records except for the name, as far as Guilliman's been able to learn anyway), but GW needs to really give the Orks some more love.

>>55329555
>the same series where an Eldar Harlequinn jumps into tell the humans after they got verbally dickslapped by an Ork ambassador and have a currently have Ork Attack Moon parked over Terra that "Chaos is the real enemy gaiz! Really! Don't take your eyes off Chaos!"

Yeah, real 'Ork fanbois' there anon.

>>55329555
Vulkan doesn't count and you know it anon, he dies going to get a late night snack but it's k cause he respawns.

But the war of the Beast is one of the best conflicts in 40k history, yeah.

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>>55329445
we're not talking about dark angels :^)

>>55329597
Chaos is going to win the last planet so that GW can progress the plot without one side actually losing.

>>55329445
Are you implying traps are gay?

>>55329253

I want to de-Nurgle it and turn it into a hot-rod for an Inquisitor.

>>55329563
That's true, but it's still only one point. The price difference seems appropriate without them also having higher stats as well.

>>55329555
w-why'd you post my shitty necromunda terrain?

>>55329635
Anon, if this planet goes Chaos, Chaos gets the whole system.

>>55329768
Chaos managed to tear Cadia a new arsehole that extends halfway through the galaxy and the Imperium still came out ahead.

A Chaos victory is a victory for the status quo.

>>55329809
Chaos did fuck all at Cadia, and ran like little bitches. Cawl is responsible for the planet's destruction.

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I am going to be building a squad of Vanguard Veterans. Can I get some opinions on how to kit them out? They will be mainly taking on MEQ

I am thinking because of 8th rules to run SS Power axe on the sergeant and SS chainsword on a VV and just equip the remaining models with double chainsword. Double chainsword on a vanguard veteran means 4 attacks at his base profile. they will be assisted by a lieutenant to compensate for the s4 ap 0.

I see some good numbers when I do the math, but I am open to other suggestions.

Would Genestealer Cult be any good for a newbie? Or would I be in over my head.

>>55329809
Chaos lost the battle, fled in disgrace, and threw rocks. Why would they be rewarded for that?

>>55329835
>Chaos gets a single victory
>it's an important victory
>"nu-uh Chaos were bitches we only lost Cadia because of the incompetence of our own dude"
why are Imperiumfags retarded?

>>55329856
They're difficult to paint because of a lot of detail, and rely on either synergy or spam on the table, neither of which are good for a first-timer

some questions about cover
>a squad of 5 is only has 2 visible models and is hit with 3 wounds, do out of view models in a unit still take wounds?
>you have your 2 big guns in a unit of 5 visible to fire on the enemy and you take wounds, can you distribute the wounds away from them if they are the only visible models?

>>55329836
20 grav pistols or 20 chainswords

>>55329836
>Can I get some opinions on how to kit them out?
Magnetize them.
>They will be mainly taking on MEQ
LC or sword and board

>>55329883
Wounds can be allocated to any model in the unit. los only matters to firing, not wounding.

>>55329883
You can only kill up to what's visible

>>55329835
Cawl had literally nothing to do with Cadia exploding. It exoded because the remains of a Blackstone fortress crashed into it.

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>>55329348

>Best armies for a new player?

Space Marines. They have a shit ton of different units so you have tons of options starting out for how you want your army to go, they're widely available everyfuckingwhere, and since everyone and their mom starts with Space Marines you'll always be able to find cheap used models if that's your jam.

Also they're always in the new edition starter sets and their armor has a lot of panels so it's easy to learn how to paint on. You can customize your own chapter as well if you don't want to use one of the already established ones.

>Cheapest way to get started?

Buy Dark Imperium, sell the Nurgle half. Alternately, pick up the Start Collecting box and then a cheap Rhino and you'll be looking at 5-600 points worth of models. Not enough for a full game, but definitely enough to get you started with some smaller skirmish sized games.

The best answer though is to look at all of the armies and pick the one that you think looks the raddest. If you end up enjoying the Warhammer 40K hobby than you're going to be spending hours after hours assembling and painting your army. If you're spending all of that time on an army that you don't think is cool you won't have any fun. Find an army that you think is awesome (either their looks, their playstyle, or their lore) and just grab the Start Collecting box for it.

Then, watch Duncan's painting guides on the WarhammerTV youtube channel and check out the /wip/ thread for help and advice on painting.

Then post your dudes here and talk about them.

>>55329929
>>55329944
you guys are giving me different answers

>>55329944
No, the rules explicitly state wounds can be allocated to models not visible.

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>>55329901
going to be taking on most if not all 1w models. Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought the extra damage from the grav does not spill over into other models. I like grav, but for my all around shooting I am using a lot of plasma. these are mainly because I think I assault is cool and I am running black templar.

>>55329979
It's a meme answer from last edition.

>>55329959
Just read the allocate wounds section of the shooting phase rules "if an attack successfully wounds the target, the player commanding the unit allocates the wound to any model in the unit (the chosen model does not have to be in range or visible to the attacking unit)"

>>55329959
Read the rulebook then and find the answer

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>>55329955
Thank you for the detailed answer, anon. Nice digits.

Is 1000 points a reasonable goal for a starting army?

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Can you take Lemartes in a flesh tearers list?

>>55330016
It's how I built up my stuff, always shoot for increments.

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>>55329912
I like storm shields, but I don't think equipping the entire unit with them is a good idea now.

If I get hit by something that does high AP I can select which model I want to take the hit. If I had two models with SS, I can just opt to use their save. I have hands for more weapons in the rest of the unit that way.

What do you think? I'm drunk, jovial and looking stimulate discussion while I plan out my new BT army.

>>55330016
>Is 1000 points a reasonable goal for a starting army?
Yes, very much so. Any idea what chapter you'd want to start with

>>55330041
Read the rules friend

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>>55329996
GREAT! I spent 7th playing possibly the only non riptide tau army on Terra, so I missed out on most dank SM memes.

>>55330050
>I like storm shields, but I don't think equipping the entire unit with them is a good idea now.
>If I get hit by something that does high AP I can select which model I want to take the hit. If I had two models with SS, I can just opt to use their save. I have hands for more weapons in the rest of the unit that way.
Outside of LC, you will never get a use for more weapons. I suppose you could take pistols,mbut why though? You're a black templar, fucking space knights need to be purging, not shooting, and frankly I don't find mass pistols to be all that useful from my experience. Plus Shields are a gaurd against any and all negative AP modifiers.
>What do you think? I'm drunk, jovial and looking stimulate discussion while I plan out my new BT army.
Why'd you choose BT? And what's your crusade's fluff? (it's crusade, right? I'll admit I'm no expert in BT chaoter structure)

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>>55330016

No problem.

1000 points is a decent amount for a smaller army, and your first few games should be smaller anyway since you'll be learning the rules.

Which army are you thinking of starting?

>>55330052
>>55330106
Space marines would be fine. Also interested in: Grey Knights, IG, chaos, genestealer cult (kek). For space marines, if I had to pick, I'm fond of the Black Templars.

I've been thinking about getting into 40k. So far, I'm torn between Tyranids and Admech. Which is more fun?

>>55330099
>never get a use for more weapons
two chainswords means an extra two attacks-at ap-0, but still good for clearing hordes of light-armour enemies
>Shields
Offer nothing against ap-0 attacks and cost points, which could be spent on more RIGHTEOUS CRUSADERS
>>55329836
Run them with 2 shields, 2 bulletcatcher double swords and a sarge with axe/plasma pistol, thats how mine are kitted and they're decent. They're not amazing but they go decently

>>55330183
Lotta newbs the last few days.
Anyway, depends. You have more flexibility with style and army appearance as Nids so you may call that funner

>>55329246
Death guard are shaping up to be super OP.

Mortal wounds are ok, but not when an army can get like 30 sources of it, shit gets rediculous.

>>55330200
And which would you say is more noob-friendly in-game?

>Lotta newbs the last few days.
I got into it after playing a Black Crusade campaign. It was fun, but Chaos minis don't look as cool as the artwork depicts them as.

thoughnts on this.

watched the mortarion review.

spells:

warp time
death hex.

so he moves 12. warptimes 12 more. average charge 7 for 31" move .. so possibly turn 1 charge. death hex is for obviously removing invuln saves on what's about to skull fuck you so you can kill it asap.

use the new expensive terminators deepstriking in to absorb heavy weapon hits on him (pre placed in position for him)

thoughts?

>>55330216
see >>55328815

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>>55330099

>Outside of LC, you will never get a use for more weapons.
Chainswords rules state: "each time the bearer fights, it can make 1 additional attack with this weapon."
2x chainsword on a vanguard veteran as I am reading it: 2 chainsword attacks, then a bonus attack from EACH chainsword. That is a total of 4 attacks at s4 ap0 for 16 points(plus whatever for jump pack) I can also field almost(jump pack costs) twice the number of veterans with chainsword as LC point for point. And its going to be Black Templar, so dual wielding deepstriking chainsword holding crusaders seem like the appropriate choice.
>Why'd you choose BT? And what's your crusade's fluff? (it's crusade, right? I'll admit I'm no expert in BT chaoter structure

The Templars keep shit moving. In my opinion the most noble part of the 40k universe are the ideals of the great crusade, and while everything else is a dumpster fire in the Imperium they are still fighting for the idea of a better tomorrow.

I am introducing a friend to 40k so he will be using my Tau army. So its shaping up to be a crusade near the Maelstrom, where my Tau have been battling a force of Space wolves(the guy who got me into 40k's army.)

>>55330216
Still not as broken as greentides, conscripts or skittering swarms, though it looks like they're gonna be the best 'elite' faction so far by a big margin

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>>55330183
Objectively, Nids are more fun because Nids have options that allow for different playstyles that still function. AdMech is very monobuild and lower-tier, thus making it less dynamic of an army and easier to fall into a pattern of monotony with. If you don't mind monotony, you'd be better off playing Nids anyway as they're relatively easy to learn and play and far more durable than AdMech at current.

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Post cool banners.

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>>55330273
Up in this bitch.

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>>55330264
Thanks for the advice. Is it better to start off with a horde of gaunts and gene-stealers, or a couple of big scary Monstrous creatures?

Blood Angel Codex on Sanguinala?

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>>55329336
Lol qq little faggut

>>55330235
Does he even have access to anything outside the Contagion discipline?

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>>55330237

Herohammer makes me sad.

> Play Space Marines
> Custom Chapter with Iron Hands rules
> Don't get a primarch
> Don't get any special characters
> Don't get any special vehicles
> Don't get any special weapons
> Literally not even mentioned in the Index

All we get is one relic and a 6+ fnp roll for infantry and Dreadnoughts. Sad.

>>55330354
>Does he even have access to anything outside the Contagion discipline?
He should be able to. he is CSM. (maybe not) might need a sorceror near by to cast it on him but that won't be easy...

also was thinking about him taking the WL trait that gives him +1 disgustingly resilient rolls

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>>55329398

>>55330376
So far I don't think any psyker has been able to choose spells outside of the ones for their specific faction

>>55330321
Homogaunts and GS are soo good

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>>55330321
No. Never use Hormagaunts. They are not worth it ever. If you can take Hormagaunts, always take Genestealers instead.

Now, with that out of the way you will find it to be a mixture for Nids. Genestealers work, but they work best when supplemented with big things to distract and or soften their targets before they shred/nom them to death. With Nids, you'll always want to use swarm tactics over a simple Nidzilla, as the nerfed Nidzilla's viability tremendously. It's still feasible, but nowhere near as fun or logistically sound as it was in 7th. Tyranids are part of a hivemind, and being composed of multiple beings headed towards one goal is as reflected in the game as it is in the fluff. And before you ask, yes, people will consider a preposterous promenade of pantaloonpurloiners pushing people off the playmat poor sportsmanship. Use them, but don't overuse them.

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>>55330255
>Chainswords rules state: "each time the bearer fights, it can make 1 additional attack with this weapon."
>2x chainsword on a vanguard veteran as I am reading it: 2 chainsword attacks, then a bonus attack from EACH chainsword. That is a total of 4 attacks at s4 ap0 for 16 points(plus whatever for jump pack) I can also field almost(jump pack costs) twice the number of veterans with chainsword as LC point for point.
While your reading of the chainsword rules are correct, in the case of MEQs, the extrapoints for dual claws mathhammerwise is superior to the points you save for more dual chainsword vangaurd. 10 LC marines do 10.333... Wounds to meq, while 16.6 dual sword vets (the equivalent number of points as the 10 LC) will do 7.629.... Wounds to meq, and that's accounting for two sergs as well.
The extra attack, superior AP and reroll damage on the LC is simply better at killing meq both in pure numbers and point per point than dual swords are

>>55330376
He's locked in to a specific WL trait like every other spexial character

Do you even play this game anon?

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>>55328762
>Literally provide one single, definite source stating unequivocally that even one Grey Knight has fallen.

I mean, Alaric went crazy in Hammer of Daemons and became a Khornate gladiator who happily ate human sacrifices and got a mark of Khorne

but he got better

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>>55330393
>Never use Hormagaunts.

What about Termagaunts + that one creature that spawns more Termagaunts when they die? I've been thinking about combining that with Genestealers+Broodlord, with maybe a few venomthropes. What's better for anti-armor, an Exocrine or Zoanthropes?

>>55330442
Nobody cares you fucking fuck

If you want to continue an argument in a previous thread, post in that thread

>>55330235
>thoughts?

He can only use spells from Contagion discipline, baka.

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>>55330456
what argument? Ben Counter is top tier grey knight kino and the entire point of the book was that a grey knight can come RIGHT UP to the edge of falling and come back spiritually stronger than ever. That's their entire schtick.

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>>55330237
>>55330456
You cared enough to reply, shitlord

>>55330456
grey babbies pls go

>>55330485
I'm a chaos cuck thank you very much

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>GK need a bunch of buffs and gizmos to defeat demons

Fucking pussies, give Helbrecht a spoon and he will skullfuck demons.

>>55330505
sigismund and grey knights were unironic bros, false flagging (((chaos))) cuck.

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Why do you guys argue over the lore when it is just a way to get you to spend more money on 2 cent plastic men?

>>55330491
>chaos player
>calling himself a cuck
I said, grey babbies pls go

>>55330505
Only if the Stormlord lets him have his hands

>>55330530
I post bait that keeps the thread bumped

I don't even have to samefag after

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>>55330453
Zoanthropes are useless, sadly. Venomthropes even moreso since they can be bursted down and removed easily. But the Tervigon is useful if a bit pricey. Does wonders in lower point games by making sure your gaunts live, and using Termagaunts with Devilgaunts all but ensures you'll have a consistent firing line pumping out 30+ shots rerolling wounds and hits of 1. And Exocrines. Always and forever until the Codex.

>>55330531
Negro I started in 3rd edition, I know full well that GW have been cucking us for YEARS

>>55330556
get back in your cuckshed of terror, NPC.

>>55330530
>2 cent plastic men
Fuck off sifu dave

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Hows your armies on parade board coming along?

>>55330556
Stop being salty then, we're getting good toys now, I'm just waiting for Emperor's Children release since they seem to be cycling through the cult legions, at this rate I expect them to tease new stuff for my army by the end of next year.

How many recasts for you own? I'm looking making a large purchase of a new army and consider going recasts for most of my units other then my cheap troop choices?

I'm slightly worried every will find out and look down on me though.

>>55330593
>I'm slightly worried every will find out and look down on me though.
Fielding recasts, much like conceal carrying a glock, is like jerking off under a trenchcoat in a public park.
You think everyone knows.
But they have no idea.

>>55330593
unless you're playing an army list that will really save you a lot of money to get recasts (sisters of battle, stormtroopers/kasrkin, krieg etc), I generally prefer not having to wait a month and a half plus I like plastic.

What army are you planning on doing?

>>55330591

I'm not salty, aside from the MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF SEMEN in my pants from the CONSTANT ORGASMS the new Death Guard have been giving me.

I just don't want to see another thread shitted up.

>>55330622
>>>/reddit/

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Hey /40kg/ have any of you gotten a family member interested in Warhammer before? If so, how did it turn out in the end?

>>55330603
You may be right, I ordered a few HQs for my Orks and after they're painted up no one has said anything but good things about them m

>>55330616
Tyranids, mostly just looking at recasts for the big units. They're upwards of half the cost and I'm looking at building at least a 2000 point army, just sold a difffent army.

>>55329374
I ain't mad. Draigo fell to Slaanesh.

>>55330658
I got my little brother into it, he picked Nids because he likes Starcraft Zerg, had to explain Zerg are the ripoff and are probably about as strong as a splinter hive fleet.
He only has the start collecting because he can't decide on a colour scheme and he hasn't bought any more because he's saving up for a new computer, or at least the parts for one that he intends to put together.
Other than hating how weak and useless Gargoyles are he seems to like them.

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>>55329562
see>>55330669

>>55330659
well for me, I wouldn't bother spending $20 for a carnifex instead of $35, I mostly save recasts for forgeworld stuff where the savings are hundreds of dollars.

>>55330669
>h-h-he falls in the future, time in the warp is d-different
>what do you mean he shows up in the modern fluff
>i-i-its him, b-btfo...

>>55330676
yes that cloaked, hooded silhouette is clearly a 12' tall guy with a flag in terminator armor.

>>55330676
Fuck I saw that picture so often how did I not see the caped dude down there.

>>55330681
>lel I will ignore the fluff because it hurts my feelings

Did you ignore when an Ork entered the Warpo andwent back in time to confront his old version? Yes, you did.

The silver knight was consumed by Slaanesh.

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>>55330676
>>55330681
HAHAHAHA >>55330669 GOT BTFO INTO THE GROUND

>>55330708
The text in the daemon codex says that he is a Space Marine.

>>55330659
Do not order recasts of anything Nid related outside of FW stuff. It's not worth the time and possible failures.

>>55330714
>>55330718

still wasnt draigo

>>55330420
Thank you man, I appreciate the help. I had some values wrong looking back and missed how well LC work out.

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>>55329526
Whenever I paint my death guard I sometimes pop my Acne, and sometimes there is blood, and it hurts. But sometimes there is a putrid yellow gyser of love that escapes my greasy pores and jets out of my face and onto my dirty nurglings, when this happens I throw my head back and screech as my buthole clenches for more putrid pain and love, because that's all the universe comes down to, that one single moment of delight that is death.


That's what nurgle is about anon

In Matched Play, do Primaris Inceptors with Plasma Exterminators cost 30 Points per model + 28 Points per gun for a total of 86 Points per model?

Or are they 30 points + 28 points, so 58 points per model?

The book says they get two plasma exterminators, the points listed for a that gun are 28, so I'm thinking i'm correct and the model with weapons costs a total of 86 points.

Seriously way too expensive for a 2W model.

>>55330728
Suuuuureee he wasn't. There are many silvered knight space marines running around in the Warp with the power to overcome ALL circles of Slaanesh's domain except the final one.

>>55330731
My pleasure. Have fun purging the enemies of man

Is it worth it to take any other weapon other than Psilencers on Purgation squads? Maybe a Psycannon or two?

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>>55330676
>An Astartes in simple power armour and wearing a cloack
>The same as terminator wearing Khaldor Draigo with a standart on top and storm shield
Yeah....umm....no

>>55330741
It says you can equip them with two Plasma Exterminators, so yes you are paying for two of them
T5 AND high firepower AND 2W AND high mobility AND deep-striking will cost you.

>>55330741
they are expensive and deal a fuck tonne of damage, a single squad overheating could wipe out a knight.

>>55330757
Draigo's sword was broken in the Warp and he had to rebuild it using a Bloodthirstier's axe. His bolter also ran outta ammo. Draigo after many years in the Warp could be reduced to that.

>An Astartes in simple power armour

Oh really, you can tell that from the picture?

>>55330016
Yes. Just don't buy a bunch of stuff and buy/build/paint a box at a time.

>>55330781
>Oh really, you can tell that from the picture?
Not him, but can you not? Termie armor and power armor don't look at all the same.

>>55330781
Not him, but no banner, no shield, his head is obviously from his torso-thats PA, not termie

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>>55330681
Draigo appearing in modern fluff doesn't preclude the possibility he eventually falls, or that due to warp fuckery it's already happened.

>post yfw Draigo has to fight his future corrupted self

>>55330807
>>55330804
>>55330800
>>55330798
>>55330781
>>55330757
>>55330743
>>55330728
THERE IS NO CONFIRMATION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STOP BEING FAGGOTS

>>55330800
Actually it sort of does look like aegis pattern terminator armour, the "hood"could be the psychic hood

>>55330804
It it's taken from the end of his life an indeterminate period in the future, it's not really fair to compare the art to his current model.

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>>55330807
>Emperor's Children vs Grey Knights campaign
>Draigo shows up to help fight a new Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
>DPoS is Chaos!Draigo
>Draigo has a heroic heart attack and begins his journey to slay Slaanesh so this eventuality does not come to pass
>thus sealing his own fate

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>>55330792
> 40k contents in sad panda.

Draigo vs Nega-Draigo would be cool but it would be way awesome if the knight was actually his master from the timeline where Draigo died and he was cursed to wander the warp.

If there's Draigo vs Shadow Draigo then who has the Titan Sword?

>>55330878
Two versions, one normal one corrupted.

It was originally a daemon weapon, remember.

>>55330892
Wait what? Nothing ever says the Titansword was a daemon weapon

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>>55330807
>me in the white

>>55330781
You wouldn't be able to see the head you imbecile, draigo is wearing Terminator armour, from behind he would look like a walking refrigerator

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So the Admech codex can be preorded next week?

>>55330933
Probably/hopefully

>>55330933
Probably, the next two or three weeks are death guard though

>>55330933
Yes, along with the new terminators. Seems like Admech wont get new minis.

>>55330944
>>55330953
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/10/codex-adeptus-mechanicus-and-deathshroud-terminators/

Community site says so

>>55330929
See

>>55330827

>>55330955
Not like they needed any, they already have an army of good plastic

>>55330955
Well we dont know that yet, like deathshrouds wont be same day release as Codex: Death Guard so maybe we will get some stuff a week/more after release

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So, Death Guard are looking pretty strong, but any word on how they fair against Orks, Nids, and IG? This this is the swarm edition, seems like those three are gonna be the points everyone else is compared to.

>>55330903
It was originally a bloodthirsters axe that reforged with mind magic, so if not a daemon weapon, then a daemon's weapon.

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>>55330892
>It was originally a daemon weapon, remember
Source: my ass.

>>55331008
They have a stratagem that lets every model in a unit throw a grenade, so 10 models = 10d6 shots.

Not to mention an abundance of flamer-type weapons, and 18" rapid fire.

>>55330992
Doubtful considering DG will probably take a couple weeks to finish releasing new units and its not like admech needs new stuff.

>>55330971
>>55330827
Even then, the shoulders would be broader and higher since even aegis pattern terminator armour have oversized shoulder pads, the character in the picture have defined shoulders and head, not the bulking form of the aegis pattern terminator armour, therefore he can't be Draigo

>>55331039
Because if there's one thing GW is good at, it's consistent scale in their artwork.

>>55330365
honestly, I just wish they'd allow us to take a dreadnought as an hq. it would at least dull the pain.

>>55331025
Anon, in 5e, it was the broken blade of a GD that Draigo purified and reforged.
Read the damn dex.

>>55331056
And in Rogue Trader eldar halfling librarians were a thing. Get with the times.

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>>55330676
>Robe instead of cape
>No shield
>No flag pole
>Profile does not fit Terminator armor
>Draigo explicitly repelled all temptations on his little jaunt
>Draigo repeatedly shows up uncorrupted over and over again
Are all Chaoscucks this willfully deluded?

>>55331065
Don't claim something doesn't have a source when it clearly does, you moron.

>>55331056
Draigo killed a Bloodthirster, purged its axe of taint, and then melted it and used the metal to fix up his damaged, preexisting sword. It's literally right there in this screencap>>55329374

>>55329260
>Why'd GW ignore Dark Angels in the Space Marines Codex for 8th?

Because the Dark Angels always get their own Codex, with the sole exception being 2E when they split one with the Blood Angels?

>>55331052
>Because if there's one thing GW is good at, it's consistent scale in their artwork.
Not an argument since even since rogue their inception they have made consistent art to not confuse normal power armour with terminator armour and it's well know bulky proportions, unless you can find a form fitting terminator armour GW art fuck off

>>55331076
I'm not the one who claimed it didn't have a source. I'm pointing out that you're citing outdated lore.

>>55331066
Except that Draigo's armor and armaments have been shown break apart and run out of fuel and ammo even in the Warp so this might be Draigo in the future where his look have changed due to him continuously repairing and replacing his gear.

>>55331056
The sword is literally free of taint, it's mentioned in the fucking picture, what the hell are you talking about?

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>>55331076
You're incredibly stupid.

>>55331066
>Robe instead of cape
Literally impossible to tell from that tiny little figure
>No shield
>No flag pole
You can't compare the current model to art that could be depicting events hundreds of years in his future. Maybe over a couple of centuries he lost the shield and realised the flag is fucking retarded.
>Profile does not fit Terminator armor
Again, it's fucking tiny and GW has never been consistent with their scale. Grey Knight terminator armour also has a different profile to regular terminator armour.
>Draigo explicitly repelled all temptations on his little jaunt
Until we have fluff of him emerging permanently from the warp, you can't say that for sure
>Draigo repeatedly shows up uncorrupted over and over again
See above. We also know that warp fuckery can let you go back in time and kill yourself, so this is hardly an argument.
>Are all Chaoscucks this willfully deluded?
Ironic.

>>55331097
>The sword is literally free of taint
>purified
Read, anon.
>>55331098
>source: my ass
>claiming something stated has no source
>gets mad when told something does indeed have a source, even if it's not valid anymore
I never said it was true now, I said it does indeed have a source from a codex. Now sew up your broken ass and shut up.

>>55331089
>Literally attempting to use headcanon as evidence.
Admit it, you Chaoscucks have nothing but are just so desperate for it to be Draigo you'll overlook any and all evidence and try to headcanon everything.

>>55331089
>might be

M8 seriously stop grapin straws here

>>55331089
>Except that Draigo's armor and armaments have been shown break apart and run out of fuel and ammo even in the Warp
Bullshit, the only thing he ran out was bolter shells when he traveled to the whfb world, he's still wearing his terminator armour there along with the rest of his equipment, even the ammo depleted storm bolter.

>>55331087
Prove that it's outdated and discarded because that picture doesn't say so.

>>55331097
Previously in its earlier incarnation, now it's reforged using daemon metal.

>>55331112
>Maybe over a couple of centuries he lost the shield
Dude that shield is literally the only one in the entire Grey Knights armory. The statement you're putting out is way more heavy than you realize

>>55331115
>purified
As in free of taint and corrupting effects.

>>55331122
Because new lore has come along and retconned it? Are you new to GW or something?

>>55331117
No.

>>55331116
>>55331119
>Runs outta ammo
>sword gets broken
>implying his armour won't run outta power or fall into disrepair

>>55331123
That's just further evidence they lose them all the time.

>finest warriors with the finest equipment
>accidentally all their shields

Now that we're seeing some story progression is it possible for a character to be killed permanently now?

The only one I know of is Dante and that was ages ago

>>55331129
It hasn't. Prove it. The titan sword description you posed is the same from the previous two codexes.

>>55331135
No, Grey Knights just never got storm shields except for Draigo for "some magical reason". Unless you're a WAACfaggot who uses the Index profile for the GK Librarian.

>>55331122
>now it's reforged using daemon metal.
Which was purified and cleanse from corrupting capabilities using the same flame that burns daemons upon touch, now it's basically a sword made of warp material like wraithbone.

>>55331139
You said
>the titan sword was made from a reforged bloodthirster's axe
New lore says
>the titan sword was an ancient relic and was repaired using a reforged bloodthirster's axe
See >>55329374

>>55331112
>Literally impossible to tell from that tiny little figure
Covers his entire body

>You can't compare the current model to art that could be depicting events hundreds of years in his future. Maybe over a couple of centuries he lost the shield and realised the flag is fucking retarded.
Literally headcanoning.

>Until we have fluff of him emerging permanently from the warp, you can't say that for sure
It's right there in his code entry.

>See above. We also know that warp fuckery can let you go back in time and kill yourself, so this is hardly an argument.
Literally show a single source where Draigo's name is used in the context in the context of anything less than 100% purity. Protip: you can't.

>Ironic.
You're literally presented with ironclad evidence from multiple sources across codexes, novels, and splatbooks spanning editions and all you point to is one old and ambiguous passage from an outdated book then try to argue that it validates your wishful thinking.

>>55331008
18" rapid fire range, plague flails, durable expanding tarpits.

They're expensive (even the tarpits) but I'd say DG has it all over those factions, at least until they get updates themselves. Even then, 2 dudes with plague flails in every unit could potentially take out 12 1 wound models a round by themselves (and that's if they don't throw grenades).

>>55331115
>Read, anon
Purified the REMNANTS OF THE AXE, you cretin. The sword was made by Emperor, given to them by Malcador, then later damaged and Draigo had to do some field repairs.

>>55331130
>Implying he doesn't get resupplied by his chapter every time during the brief moment he returns to the material plane during every invasion
If we are going to use suppositions, then mine are also equaly valid to yours

>>55331115
Except its never been stated as a daemon weapon literally anywhere, always the opposite of that.

>>55331148
No, I didn't. I said Draigo reforged his axe using a daemon weapon. This true in old and new lore, you moron.

It's litterally a different sword now with a same name.

>>55331165
Show me one example of him resupplying. Armor repair takes too long and Draigo doesn't stay long in real space for that to happen. He goes from one battle to the next.

>>55331176
It's not though? It's clearly still the same sword, just with reforged parts. You're forgetting that in the 41st millenium the force field of a weapon tends to be what cuts through things, not the blade itself. Or Draigo would be hell of a forger, make a S+4 AP-4 D3 sword.

>>55331130
>No.
Convincing.

>Runs outta ammo
Has plenty of it.

>sword gets broken
In battle with M'kar before entering the Warp

>implying his armour won't run outta power or fall into disrepair
Implying he won't just fix it.

>>55331185
Show me one example of his armor not being in good shape. He's magic, he make shit.

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>>55331188
He used the molten metal of a BTs axe to reforge his sundered sword. It's not made of material steel anymore. It's made of warp metal. By all rights, it is a new sword carrying the same name.

>>55331176
Got damaged, then used the molten metal off an axe to fix it.

>>55330587
I would but Im too lazy to paint an army or build a board

>>55331200
>Has plenty of it.

Except he was shown to run out.

>In battle with M'kar before entering the Warp

So?

>Implying he won't just fix it.

He isn't an Admech.

>>55331204
Draigo in WHFB was stabbed by a Nurglite spear and got beaten up/

>>55331209
He literally just affected repairs using locally-sourced materials.

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>you know what's more interesting than a tragic figure fighting valiantly against the odds but ultimately doomed to become the very thing he has sworn to destroy?
>an untouchable hero who never fails and is completely invincible because he's super awesome and pure and full of pure purity

This is why nobody like Grey Knight players

>>55331209
If Draigo is that good at forging weaponry he should become a Techmarine and churn out as many S+4 AP-4 D3 swords as possible.

>>55331230
Draigo confirmed to support small businesses

>>55331231
but its not the players coming up with that fluff, its GW

>>55331227
>Except he was shown to run out
Yet he always has more when the battle comes around. Maybe he knows how to make bullets.

>He isn't an Admech.
He's the Supreme Grand Master, if anyone knows this shit it's him.

Once again, not a single piece of evidence Draigo has ever suffered the slightest bit of corruption, ample evidence to contrary. No appearances by alleged Chaos Draigo, not even a name or mention.

The desperate of Chaoscucks is truly sad.

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>>55331227
To be fair it seems like your trying to imply there is logic in the illogical realm

>>55331258
>He's the Supreme Grand Master, if anyone knows this shit it's him.

Except for the fact that Grey knights rely on the Admech for tech-support and Draigo is not a tech marine.

>Yet he always has more when the battle comes around.

Grabbing bullets from fellow marines is easy. Repairing armor plating and systems is not.

>Once again, not a single piece of evidence Draigo has ever suffered the slightest bit of corruption, ample evidence to contrary. No appearances by alleged Chaos Draigo, not even a name or mention.

No, there is no evidence that Draigo didn't get corrupted by Slaanesh. The Silver Knight fell to Slaanesh.

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>>55331231
>What's more interesting than a twisted, bitter warlord striking bitterly out at the Imperium that killed his father with the ramshackle legions of the damned?
>Untouchable sue who never secretly won every crusade when no one noticed, controls super-powered OC Emperor-killer daemons, loved and feted by everyone on his side, forces Daemon Primarchs to bow to him, and wins even when he runs away in shame.

>>55331297
At least we have nostalgia to fall back on

>>55331297
None of you said is true. Abaddon is not a sue. He loses. Draigo only lost to Slaanesh.

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Here is Draigo in fantasy. He was found shackled and chained by the forces of Chaos.

>>55331287
>Except for the fact that Grey knights rely on the Admech for tech-support and Draigo is not a tech marine.
He's magic. It's the Warp. Thinking hard enough will do.

>Grabbing bullets from fellow marines is easy. Repairing armor plating and systems is not.
Then by all means show a source where his armor is ramshackle.

>No, there is no evidence that Draigo didn't get corrupted by Slaanesh. The Silver Knight fell to Slaanesh.
While your ability to boldfacedly lie is impressive, that's the opposite of true. Chaos Draigo would be a major warlord and agent of Slaanesh, and that thing's followers being what they are the news would be absolutely everywhere in the Warp. Instead, not a peep or the slightest evidence Draigo has ever been anything less than pure.

One passage where the silver knight is named is all you need, but you can't present one because it doesn't exist.

>>55331320
>just a big knight
>ITSZS DREEGOO U GUUYZZ

>>55331297
>ADB/Carnacquest

>>55331317
>None of you said is true. Abaddon is not a sue. He loses.
His own codex says every Black Crusade was a great victory. Killed Sigsmund, has a henchman sorcerer more powerful than Magnus.

>Draigo only lost to Slaanesh.
Still waiting for the smallest evidence beyond your own wishful thinking.

>>55331227
>Except he was shown to run out.
And he have participated in campaigns along grey Knights against chaos invasions, which take weeks or months in some cases, he could rejoin in the GK base get repairs and ammo defeat the daemons horse and get sucked back into the warp again
>So?
He used santic magic to purify the rawaterials, reforge the blade and might as well not needed a furnace with anvil since he was using magic to do it, he might as well just willed the thing to come together since he was using santic purifying mind powers to reforge the blade

>He isn't an Admech.
Astartes can do basic maintenance to their own equipment, only when it's highly and severely damaged it's send to the Techmarine to pull the thing back together

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>>55331322
>He's magic. It's the Warp. Thinking hard enough will do.

Never worked like that for humans.

>Then by all means show a source where his armor is ramshackle.

See >>55331320

>While your ability to boldfacedly lie is impressive, that's the opposite of true. Chaos Draigo would be a major warlord and agent of Slaanesh, and that thing's followers being what they are the news would be absolutely everywhere in the Warp. Instead, not a peep or the slightest evidence Draigo has ever been anything less than pure.

He might appear in a future update. After all, the Silent King was a random name in a 5th ED codex but then suddenly became a important name. GW loves that kind of stuff.

>>55331331
>A giant silvered knight who is legend in the warp
>not draigo

Anyways, Draigo being humped by a Beast of Nurgle.

>>55331234
>REEEEE NOBODY BUT ADMECH IS ALLOWED TO MAKE THINGS
Archmagos pls go

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>>55329219
Experimenting with a deep strike chapter of mostly primaris units. Rate me

>1000pts Vanguard Detachment (957 used)
>Raven Guard tactics, 4 CP total (-3 due to Chapter Master)

HQ
>Terminator Captain (Chapter Master) - x2 Lightning claws, needs a good relic
>Gravis Captain - Power Sword/Bolter Gaunt

Troops
>Scout Squad, 5 scouts - 5 snipers/bolt pistols

Elites
>Aggressor squad of 6 - Boltstorms and Fragstorms
>Reiver Squad of 5 - Knives and pistols
>Reiver Squad of 5 - Knives and pistols

Heavy
>Hellblasters squad of 5 - Assault incinerators

General idea was to start with the scouts positioned either in a flank or on an objective, gravis captain, and hellblasters on the map, with everyone else in reserve and the 6 Aggressors in hiding with the Raven Guard stratagem. The Aggressors pop up and the chapter master teleports within range of them asap, getting those delicious rerolls on the aggressor salvo. Snipers stay put and try to pick off weak units and characters, possibly holding an objective, while the Gravis captain sticks with the Hellblasters running in supercharging the shit out of their guns. Reivers drop down and engage from another flank in melee

>>55331344
Lost on Cadia. Lost in other events too.

>has a henchman sorcerer more powerful than Magnus.

Khayon is not stronger than Magnus. Simply smarter

>>55331357
I'm not saying that, I just don't get why Draigo doesn't utilize his forging talents more often.

>>55331355
Do you have non ant version of that picture? Can't read shit.

>>55331365
>Lost on Cadia. Lost in other events too.
Lost, but really won if you ask GW, ADB, or Carnac. Like all his other crusades.

>Khayon is not stronger than Magnus. Simply smarter
Are you trying to argue my point for me here?

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>>55331377
Zoom in.

Draigo here faces a Nurglite army guarding Nurgle's manse.

>>55331370
Space wolves needed to purify the ace of morkai for months before it could be wielded without corrupting it's user, Draigo probably spend an indeterminate length of time before purifying the raw materials to reforge the titan blade

Also never forget Morkai>Khorne

>>55331355
welp I sure hope a later pic you post says he is legend in the warp because thus far I aint seen shit

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So I'm looking at this to get my new Thousand Sons army.

I feel like it's incredibly unbalanced, so how should I fix it? I want to keep it as fluffy as possible as pure Sons(no tzaangors) I haven't bought the second termies or the daemons yet

Auxiliary support detachment:
>10x Pink Horror

Superheavy Auxiliary Detachment:
>Magnus the Red

Patrol Detachment
>Ahriman on Disc of Tzeentch
>10x Rubric Marines: 1 sorc with warpflame bolter, 4x bolters, 4x flamers, 1x cannon
>10x Rubric Marines: 1 sorc with hand flamer, 4x bolters, 4x flamers, 1x cannon
>5x scarabs: 1 sorc with combibolter, 3x combibolters, 1x heavy flamer
>5x scarabs: 1 sorc with combibolter, 3x combibolters, 1x heavy flamer

total: 1998 pts

>>55331355
>Never worked like that for humans.
He's a Grey Knight.

>See >>55331320
>[His] armor gleamed like silver despite despite the cloying murk of the jungle floor.
Not seeing any evidence of ramshackle armor here, dearie.

>He might appear in a future update. After all, the Silent King was a random name in a 5th ED codex but then suddenly became a important name. GW loves that kind of stuff.
"He might" "Could be"

So again trying to use your headcannon as evidence?

>Anyways, Draigo being humped by a Beast of Nurgle.
IT'S DRAIGO BECAUSE I SAID SO.

>>55331407
Now THIS I like. Draigo spending months slowly working on the sword, dodging daemons or fighting them off with his bare hands, until he finally completes his work.

>>55331331
Good to know that GW can never drop hints and easter eggs without autists crying

>>55331412
while I totally understand why you do it, I'm still inclined to say fuck you for fielding magnus

>>55331407
The axe of Morkai isn't purified. The taint of Khorne is tamed in it to the power of Fenris.

>>55331417
Still of the human faction who have never shown to shape the Warp into anything.

>Not seeing any evidence of ramshackle armor here, dearie.

Nurgle's muck is corrosive. The touch of Beasts of Nurgle is also hyper corrosive.

>"He might" "Could be"

The point is that saying that no new fluff about him appeared yet doesn't mean there won't be any in the future. It's as simple concept.

>IT'S DRAIGO BECAUSE I SAID SO.

Because it is Draigo

>>55331401
>Nurgle daemons REEEEEEEing autistically because Nurgle was called a clean freak
KeK

>>55329346
>Broken english or MWG being MWG

I know Chaos is all about corruption and suffering, but this is unbearable.

>>55331432
not wanting to get into this, but I literally had to talk a guy out of fielding guillman in a 1000 points co-op game on the weekend, and he capitulated by shitting out librarians and winning through smite spam.

I feel zero guilt for fielding a lord of war that's way easier to take down in an actually fluffy list.

Do we know the stats of Mortarion's Phosephex grenades yet?

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Draigo was defeated by the guardians of Nurgle's manse and was impaled on a spear.

However, the daemons cannot kill Draigo for he is beyond their power top destroy.

>>55329260
The fallen are listed in the chaos codex ya dingus

Sisters rules. No idea if we're getting plastics or not, that's not my department.

Special rule for all sisters army:
Anytime a unit with the act of faith rule passes a morale check, gain a command point.

Orders:
1. 1 additional Act of Faith during your turn.
2. +1 shield of faith rolls (save and deny both benefit).
3. +2 to any rolls to determine the number of shots a ranged or melee weapon has.
4. If an ORDER infantry unit only fired with pistols or grenades in its shooting phase, it can immediately move 3 inches in any direction, as if consolidating.
5. an order where ORDER vehicles have the Act of Faith special rules.
6. An order where Movement is increased by 2"

Stratagems are all about miracles themselves.

>>55331420
Now that's something I would read, just like how the Draigo Vs Mortarion book made their battle less wank and more "hey what if we use previous supreme grand master plan and arcana to weaken Mortarion enough to banish him some centuries before he can comeback again" instead of the "casually strolling and punch him in the dick unaided" fluff

>>55331454
2d6 S5 plague weapon, grenade range

>>55331446
A 3+ invulnerable save on an 18 wound body, shitting out 2d6 damage smites is pretty bad, mang

What's the best loadout for a sniper scout sergeant?

>>55329348
Orks have the best fluff, most fun conversions and solid rules, only downside for new players is the model count.

>>55331436
>Still of the human faction who have never shown to shape the Warp into anything.
You mean besides all the Grey Knights' neat sanctification magic?

>Nurgle's muck is corrosive. The touch of Beasts of Nurgle is also hyper corrosive.
And? Even if you accepted it was him the Knight's armor is explicitly silver and clean despite be immersed in muck.

>The point is that saying that no new fluff about him appeared yet doesn't mean there won't be any in the future. It's as simple concept.
The point is that you're a retard trying to pass off your wishful thinking as reality.

>Because it is Draigo
No it isn't.

>>55331491
k.

>>55331496
Sniper

>>55331497
>got a bunch of orky stuff recently
>realize I only have 66pts of boyz
ssshit

>>55331510
The second weapon being? Is the camo cloak worth it?

I have sniper rifle, chain sword, camo cloak

>>55331504
>You mean besides all the Grey Knights' neat sanctification magic?

Dispel Warp magic. They don't create material things out of Warp. I have yet to see a human male a warp sandwich.

>And? Even if you accepted it was him the Knight's armor is explicitly silver and clean despite be immersed in muck.

No text about its condition after the Beast of Nurgle humping or the spear impaling. It explicitly says that Draigo's body was broken and left hanging. See >>55331458

>The point is that you're a retard trying to pass off your wishful thinking as reality.

You are retarded for saying that something that is mentioned once may never appear again. Now that's wishful thinking.

>No it isn't.
It is. You think there are dozens of legendary indestructible giant sorcerous silvered knights running around in the Warp? lol

so do we have a compilation so far of the death guard rules as a file?

>>55331470
if true, these sound pretty cool.

Yhe temptation to make a heavy flamer Retributors army with trait 3 is strong.

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>>55329836
Make sure they don't get assaulted by a 10 man squad of khorne zerkers..... last game I played they ate a vanguard vet squad...... then some bikes..... then some tactical marines........ and then a lieutenant
> khorne was pleased
> personally i like power axes but it depends what you're fighting

>>55330676
>mfw that's not even a marine in that image
>mfw newfags never read the passage where the knight was never even referred to as a marine

"Da Silvurr Kuhniggit was a knight Titan gaiz!" - /tg/

>>55331527
Bolt pistol because they're not supposed to get near anything

If you have some spare points roll with it, otherwise those points are better spent somewhere else

>>55331522
Boyz are really good at breaking heads this edition, but you'll probably need more than 11 of them

>>55331529
You think if it was Draigo they wouldn't just mention him by name, just like he is in every other instance? And in the exact same codex that says no GK has ever fallen to Chaos? In the literal exact same book as the silver knight story?

>>55331529
>Dispel Warp magic. They don't create material things out of Warp. I have yet to see a human male a warp sandwich.
CSM do it all the time.

>No text about its condition after the Beast of Nurgle humping or the spear impaling. It explicitly says that Draigo's body was broken and left hanging. See >>55331458
And he'll explicitly get better and kill their asses.

>You are retarded for saying that something that is mentioned once may never appear again. Now that's wishful thinking.
You're retarded for thinking the explicit purest of the pure fell against all evidence because that's what you want to happen.

>It is. You think there are dozens of legendary indestructible giant sorcerous silvered knights running around in the Warp? lol
Literally name one text with the name of the knight who fell to Slaanesh, retard. I can point to a dozen showing Draigo pure and named as such.

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>>55331550
Stop being a moron please. I have the book with me. It calls him a a space marine. Imperialfags consistently have been shown to be shit at the lore. Goddamn. Apologize now.

>>55331567
Silver Knight story is in an old Daemon dex, Draigo is alive, active, and pure in the GK codex released last month. Certain Chaosfags are just too willfully blind to admit their pet theory is nothing but their own wishful ideation.

When you read through codices and such it often shows you the makeup of a chapter or a company and the number of squads in them. So how many men per squad would there be? 5 or 10?

>>55331564
welp if I add in the ones I painted up when I was like 8 years old or something, I'll be up to 17 boyz but I'll still need more
some 173 more

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So Leman Russ is with someone stealing super knowledge from Tzeench, does the Emperor wants to be the little girl?

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>>55331569
>CSM do it all the time.

EXAMPLES PLS.

>>55331569
>And he'll explicitly get better and kill their asses.

Wishful thinking.

>You're retarded for thinking the explicit purest of the pure fell against all evidence because that's what you want to happen.

Except the final part of the story says that the purest of flame cannot overcome the ocean or something like that.

A mortal cannot beat a god.

>Literally name one text with the name of the knight who fell to Slaanesh, retard. I can point to a dozen showing Draigo pure and named as such.

They don't have to name him. There is put one Silvered Knight of legend.

>>55331567
They wouldn't mention Draigo's name in WHFB because it would ruin the easter egg.