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C17 Gold Edition

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RESOURCES

>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
http://www.mtgcommander.net

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity.
http://manabasecrafter.com/

CARD SEARCH

>Official search site. Current for all sets.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/

>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface.
http://magiccards.info/

Thread Question: How has Magic: the Investing screwed you over lately?
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>>55326598
>>55326498
>getting assblasted by Sol Ring in 2017
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>>55326983
I was sitting on some ancestral visions I got before they were unbanned, and now those prices are dropping. Sold my glimpse the unthinkables while they were 30$ though, so that's nice.
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>>55327324
Should have sold them a bit after the unban. Price was at its highest and wizards had already reprinted it once
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>>55327004
ya but thats every sleeve after a while. thats why every little bit you unsleeve everything and clean them off with rubbing alcohol. the thing with eclipse sleeves is they split easier than dragon shields and while it happens less frequently than the normal ultra pro sleeves it still happens much more commonly than dragon shields. seeing as you have to buy 2 packs eclipse sleeves to make a deck its not too annoying since you will have a ton extra but you are still paying much more than dragon shields and they split

either way though if you like them go for and buy them
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>>55326983

>How has Magic: the Investing screwed you over lately?

Not "lately" but I was holding onto two Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet back when they were $40 each, but just tossed them in a binder and forgot about them. Then I checked them out, and they are worth like $10 now. I mean, comparatively speaking to most cards that's still worth something, but kinda a loss.

Oh well. I used one as a commander for awhile, and my friend borrowed both when we went to a standard GP, so they've gotten some play.
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>>55326983
>How has Magic: the Investing screwed you over lately?
well i still cant afford to play legacy or buy more than one modern deck because for whatever reason wotc is scared of making investors mad but that isnt really so much "lately" as it is constant
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>>55327536
Simic.

Bondage and diapers.
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>>55327536
G/W
sissification
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>>55327536
UR
femdom
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Guys, I'm living the dream, I got a copy of Grimlock and my friends are letting me house-rule it.

My question now is… how do I make this deck not suck?
I'm gonna have dinosaurs and werewolves and vehicles, but I've never really played a creature-based strategy… how do I not lose to wrath effects? are there mass regrowth effects that don't suck? Any help is appreciated. I'm not new or anything I just never play this style of deck.

Pic related (with enrage dinosaurs) is the only real synergy I came up with between the factions
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>>55327536

Naya
Male Human on Female Non-human Sapient impregnation.
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>>55327536
Rakdos
petplay, gentle dom
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>>55327536
Gruul
Sizeplay, Large
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>>55327536
Mardu
face sitting
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>>55327536
I can't decide between Temur and Sultai.
Paizuri
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>>55326757
>they are a meme, dragon shield mattes are better in literally every way
Untrue. The Eclipse sleeves are ten times easier to double sleeve. The perfect fits just slide right in no problem. The only thing I hate is the tinted front.
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>>55327536
Colorless
Muscles
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>>55327536
izzet
thicc asian women
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>WotC releases 5 mono-color commanders that can piggyback with any other commander
>They don't do much but they add on to an existing commander's color identity
I had a dream.
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>>55327536
Orzhov
Panties, light femdom, crossdressing, traps, tomboys, and so many more I can't list them
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>>55327648
>wotc making new commander cards

S T O P
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Mathas or Queen Marchesa? They both look fun for table politics but I'm not sure my group runs enough removal for Mathas to go off.
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>>55327684
mathas in marchesa, go ful politic
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>>55327586
I've also got a handful of +3/X effects and double strike effects to 1 or 2 shot with his flip side, which seems decent, but vehicles with equipment is kinda ass
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>>55327751

get that shit outta here
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>>55327536
Abzhan
If it moves and has a pussy, it's within my range of tastes.
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>>55327749
Not a bad idea. I'm not big on pillow fort playstyles though, and my group does get durdly so maybe Mathas would speed things up
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>>55327536
Orzhov
Futa on trap, tomboys, facesitting, delicious brown girls.
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>>55327794
Okay fine I'm changing my mind


I'm building… Samut, with a bunch of creatures, where do I start with not getting blown out by wrath effects
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>post your favorite color combination
golgari?

>all of these fetishes
wtf yo
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>>55327850
years of 4chan have made normal porn and sex not do anything for me
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>>55327839
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>>55327536
GU

So, so much, but at the moment futa on trap is what gets me going. Futa autofellatio, too.
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>>55327536
Izzet
handholding and mindbreak
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>>55327863
I mean… to an extent. When I go outside my playgroup I'm just gonna run Samut or maybe Bruse/someone. But I'm still building a naya beatdown deck at the end of the day.

But just from what I know about playing EDH, non-token creature strategies seem like ass unless you're playing 1v1 or something. I have Genesis but that seems slow as fuck, and gamble/season's past/eternal witness seems probably too cute. I mean I have boros charm but I don't think I can recur it often enough?
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>>55327536
Gruul
Rough sex.
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>>55327661
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>>55327536
Grixis or Jund
vore :)
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>>55327536
Azorius
lactation, frottage, milfs in a 3-way tie
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>>55327536
Simic
Mind control
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how would this card be

color identity: white red
ability: whenever you deal damage, gain that much life

i don't know about the cmc, or the power toughness
or even other possible abilitys

but it seems like a start to fix boros as a color combination
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>>55328169
>a
wow dude u did it i love u
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>>55328169
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>>55328169
>whenever you deal damage
but the player never deals any damage, it's permanents and spells they control that do. It should read something like
>Whenever a source you control deals damage to a player, gain that much life.
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>>55328169
>that ability

You do know lifelink is a thing, right?
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>>55327572
Typical
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>>55327586
>>55327950
my roommate is doing the same, it's not super busted until they flip and even then it's like the jeskai rando strike one.

>not die to wrath
boros charm

flicker effects (eerie interlude ghostly flicker etc) won't be super useful but will save a board

play regrowth

play asceticism

play a fuck ton of ramp and haste enablers and that's about it
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>>55328169
This does literally nothing to fix Boros. Card draw is sorely needed in those colors
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>>55328219
>Whenever a source deals damage to a player, gain that much life.
Fixed
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>>55328256
>opponent attacks you
>lose the life then gain the life
10/10
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>>55328256

>blue player has to keep a full grip at all times
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>>55328169
So like RW Exquisite Blood?

Maybe have it be like:
>Whenever a noncreature source you control deals damage, you gain that much life

So something similar to Tamanoa and Soulfire Grand Master, except just RW and in enchantment form
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>>55327536
Esper
Femdom, hypnosis/mind control
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>>55328169
Manabarbs is pleased
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>>55328219
It should also be an angel, preferably with flying and give all permanents you own indestructible and hexproof
2RRRWWW
6/6
>Retribution Archangel of the Final Faith Reckoning
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>>55328287
You forgot "to an opponent"
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>>55328321
no he didn't
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>>55327536
RW
all-male facesitting
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>>55327536
Temur
incest and loli
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>>55328315
It should be
>Other creatures you control have indestructible and hexproof
Otherwise it'd be too strong
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>>55328350
and only
>At the beginning of combat
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>>55328340
>no loli commander
So where would I go for a Loliana, Heretical Healer?
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>>55327536
Sultai
Tentacles
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>>55328369
the internet
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When people talk about Spirit of EDH, this is what they mean.
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so Empress Galina can take planeswalkers now right?
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>>55328450
What, ordering one's cards alphabetically rather than WUBRG is the spirit of the format?
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Orzhov
Women of Eastern origin (thank you based gf) and pet play
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>>55328586
fuckin' hell meant to actually respond to >>55327536
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>>55328507

yes
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which online program is best for playing edh, /edhg/?
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>>55328660
cockatrice
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>>55328660
xmage

people on cockatrice suck and try to cheat
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>>55328660
Cockatrice if you know people. xmage if you don't have friends.
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>>55328450
This is what they mean and if you haven't played EDh with a literal Elder Dragon as your general then you are not a serious EDH player.
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>>55328834
Oh but I do.
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>>55327536
Abzan
Loli, feet, sleeping, mindbreak, incest
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>>55328834
This!
I only play with Elder Dragons and Narset Transcendent as my Generals!!
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>>55328900
I c wut u did thr
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>>55328169
Or
Romsha, the Tenderhoof
R/W R/W
Legendary Creature- Minotaur Shaman
Whenever you gain life or deal damage, you may draw that many cards.
>Each salve from a long lost cultural
>Each bolt from a brainstorm
3/3
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>look up some budget decks on tappedout
>oh this looks fun
>$400 paper
I don't think these people know what budget means
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>>55329025
$400 compared with $5000 is "budget"
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>>55327536
Naya
cumflation/impregnation
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>>55329057
$35 dollars is budget...

$5,000 dollars is retarded.
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>>55329025
>look up EDH deck
>"I made this for casual tabletop fun"
>$900
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>>55327536
Boros.
Impregnation.
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>>55329080
I agree with you that 5 grand is silly, but $35 really won't get you much. That's a bunch of pack fodder and a bad mana base
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>>55329091
>>55329057
I think these people and the guys who give thousands of dollars to twitch streamers are the same people
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>>55328971
>minotaur
>not brown skinned THICC giantess who sits on you and sucks you up into her anus where you live forever in her fibrous muddy love hole
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>>55329080
From my experience, you probably won't have a deck that actually does anything fun for less than $100
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>>55329025
here are my decks. i'm not really going for "budget" i just don't buy any lands over ~10 dollars.

arjun - 580
grenzo d- 202
kirin c - 252
kraj - 329
doran - 388

honestly though, there is very little you can spend money on which maintains value as much as magic cards. you can buy a playstation for 400 and sell it next week for 200. you can buy a car for 10,000 and sell it next week for 7,000. or you could buy a volcanic island for 300 and sell it next week for 300.
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>>55329091
>have an Azusa deck
>worth $100
>prices spike
>Azusa alone is now half that
Price is not a determiner of power. It fluctuates too easily.
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>>55329025
Honestly if your manabase is under $500 and its not mono color you wont have fun
Sure you and your frewnds can have "fun" with a $20 hooker but you really want one for $500 who wont give you an std and leave you with shit on your dick
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>>55328219

I think "spells and permanents you control have lifelink" might work better but maybe lifelink is weird on non-creatures.
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>>55328971
Why can't /tg/ comprehend the concept of balanced cards?
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>>55328971

that's not very red or white.
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>>55329197
Lifelink is a creature keyword though, so it wouldn't make much sense on a spell
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>>55329199
Still better than anything printed after RTR
>7.8/10 would hire for r&d
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Had my first multiplayer win with pic related. It wasn't a super serious game but it was real fun. Glad I built it
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>>55329213

Consider the following.
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>>55329102
If you mean the new dragons tribal commander deck that just came out, yes I couldn't agree with you more. I needed to add like $60 dollars worth of mana and ramp to make it playable.

However, the Wizards and Cats are playable right out of the box. I've done ten games with the Wizard deck, have yet to need to fix the mana.

My best deck, I've never priced, I just put it together with a bunch of old cards I had since '94 all the way up to 2015. If I had to guess, that might have close to $220 dollars in it, but it's dual color, and doesn't need expensive mana fixes.
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>>55329213
>hurr durr
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>>55329235
>>55329239
That white red hivemind.
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>>55329230
Please stop using the small pic.
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>>55329261
b-but that's a Jeskai card
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>>55329199
>>55329208
rate my dream commander

2WR
Legendary Creature - Spirit Wall
Defender
Creatures you control with Defender get +2/+2 and have Double Strike.
At the end of each opponents turn, if that opponent did not attack you, return a creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
1/5
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>>55328900
>new elder dragons
Sorry but they don't count.
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>>55329339
Lords are now laid out so that they grant other creatures the bonus and have it built into their statline.
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>>55329386
you're not wrong.
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>>55329080
>35$ for 100 cards
Sounds like you want to be llaying an unmodified precon.
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>>55327536
Mardu for playstyle, Dimir thematically.

Anal, Femdom, Bukakke
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>>55329269
Have the "Barl, get the cage" meme?
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>>55329428
Wizard tribal that just dropped is amazing for a precon. Worth every dollar.
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>>55329465
But of course.
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>>55329488
I took an index card and wrote "Rage Cage" on it and it's where I put the caged creatures
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alright whats the FASTEST most consistant edh deck you can think of?

doesnt matter how it wins be it infinite or anything just give me the dirtiest thing you can build with all the money in the world
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who are fun, mono-colour commanders that can be easily scaled in price and power? I'd probably put in 100 to start and invest over time if I liked it, and something more control/combo preferably
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>>55329524
something Jeskai
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>>55329524
Food Chain Tazri.
>>55329530
Yisan or Selvala.
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>>55329339

Honestly not that bad.
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>>55329339

desu this feels rather weird for Boros imo. Maybe have it be Selesnya or Azorius?
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>>55329339
give it flash
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for atragsa - astral cornucopia or coalition relic?
feeling the latter but wanted opinions
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>>55327536
Orzhov
Bondage
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Cyclonic Rift Elemental 1U
Flying
When cyclonic rift elemental enters the battlefield return target creature to its owners hand
Overload 6U (you may cast this spell for its overload cost, if you do, change its texy by replacing all instances of "target" with
"Each"
1U: return Cyclonic rift elemental to your hand
2/2
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>>55328239
how?!
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So what are some cards that seem to never work out for you. Pic related has somehow never really helped me.

>>55327536
BR

Cock worship
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>>55327923
>Simic
>experiment on females giving them dicks
Seems consistent to me
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>>55329845
>he forgot Affinity for permanents controlled by opponents
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I bought the vampire and Ur deck and I want to upgrade the dragon deck. How do I do that without giving speculators in the US $500 dollars for four dragon cards?
Should I even touch the vampire precon's list unless I'm dropping money on tutors and expensive cards?
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>>55329911
That would be too powerful
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>>55327536

Abzan

Pregnancy and Lactation.
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>>55329931
It's already retarded strong

>>55329899
Weirdly had the same feeling about army. It seems like the tapped makes a big difference whenever I use it, but not when someone else does

>>55329926
There's likely some stupid in vamps you could drop for random cards you already likely have
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>>55329845
Can you actually not though.

/ccg/ exists and they'd shit on you for how fucking stupid that is.
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>>55327536
Grixis
Villians falling in love with normal people/heroes
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>>55328834
Literally my General when I don't feel in a Darigaaz mood.
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>>55329963
joke is on you, I love having other men shit on me, also wizards has done plenty of "this spell is now a creature" cycles, stop being such a problematic homophobe you literal nazi
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>>55329978
cute
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>>55329926
for vamps add this guy in, he's $5 right now
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>>55330043
forgot image like a putz
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>>55330060
also olivia voldaren
That's about all unless you also really like vish kal
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>>55329845
>not making it an activated tap ability with the additional cost of bouncing it to hand

Magus of the Rift would be fucking cool if balanced properly
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>>55330043
Got some bad news anon, he spiked to triple that once vamps were spoiled he was "invested" in
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>>55330060
They're like $15 right now

>tfw had a tribal modern vamp deck forever and got 4 for like $4 years ago but can't flip them because they're vital in the deck
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Every time I post some old reserved list jank in the edh threads they get bought out and mtglion makes a video about it
>mfw
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>>55330060
>tfw this "weak" putzy asshole was getting pitched around the lgs bulk rare box during ISD-RTR standard like an overpriced Goblin Games
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>>55330110
Take apart that deck, sell them all but one, use it in a commander deck.

>Problem solved.
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>>55327536
Bant, Sultai, Temur, Mono-Black.

Traps, tall women, Filipina hookers, necrophilia.
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>>55330121
Mtg lion is a fucking massive faggot- worse than desolator, somehow.
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>>55330169
Fuck that

>playing only one format
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>>55330110
>$15
bought one from my lgs two weeks ago for $4
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>>55330198
Your lgs is retarded then because everywhere else they shot up when the decklist for C17 was revealed
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>>55330198
You got a good deal

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/price/Innistrad/Bloodline+Keeper#paper
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>>55330218
looks like I made out like a bandit then
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>>55326983
>Thread question
I bought Leovold before he was banned and don't know what to do with him since there is no legacy anywhere near me. Got Kaalia, tried to build her. Saw that she was either Rekt or Get Rekt and passed. No I've got 2 $40 with no home and no one wants them. Learned to build the deck first and Commander last.

"Investors" haven't screwed me out of anything because I've been unemployed for most of august and don't get paid till the first of Oct so i doubt most of their buy outs will hurt me. While I want Disrupt Decorum and Teferi's Piss Break for Marduchesa and my upcoming deck I'll be fine for now. Current agenda is tune BUG Sidisi and start Zedruu.

But this is all rather moot since My play groups all either graduated college and moved, got real jobs, or live in the bigger city an hour away. I have am option between 2 LGS's with 30 minutes but one is in a different town and I've never played at the new one near me but am Afraid I'll get shrek'd.
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>>55330121
This.
Fucking no one was using Vedalkan Orrery for the longest time and after I made a few posts about it suddenly it found it's way into every deck.
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What are some of the better precons? I'm trying to get a small collection for my board game shelf.
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>>55330312
Just brew decks, buy cards and never play an actual game just like 90% of /edhg/ its more fun and you theoretically win every game you play comboing off turn 5
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tfw got a kindred discovery for $1.50 and bloodline keeper for $5 before this shit got out of control
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>>55330332
Plunder the Graves is pretty nice.
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>>55328971
Ramae, the Burning Heart
1RW
Legendary Creature - Human Shaman
Whenever you would gain life, you may exile the top card of your library instead. You may play that card this turn.

1, T; Gain 1 life.
4/2

As part of a cycle of Rx legendary creatures which all link in to each other ability.

It'd be interesting, at the very least.
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I love using Kamigawa legends. I have a Patron of the Moon deck already, but I'm thinking of changing it to Kaho (don't want to have more than one mono-U at a time). Sell me on why or why not I should.
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>>55330415
Kaho works much much better in Patron's 99.
If people see her, they expect her, they prepare for her. You lose her when she pops in and you've lost three cards.
That happens when she's in the 99 as well, of course, but typically not as often.

OBVIOUSLY
Protect your commander when you cast them, but you know that schtick.

Also flying 5/4 vs. 2/2
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>>55329926
necropolis reagent
vampire nocturnus
indulgent aristocrat
exsanguinate
gifted aetherborn
yehenni
vampire hexmage
true conviction
cover of darkness
thief of blood
drana, liberator
both olivias
shadow alley denizen
falkenrath gorger
put that and a bunch more in mine
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>>55330601
>vampire nocturnus
Don't do it. It's hit or miss in mono black. In 3 colors it'll almost never be active.
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>>55327536
Monoblue.
Futa and/or forced/denied orgasms.
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>>55330601
New Drana? Why?
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>>55327536


>>55327557
>>55327572
>>55327579
All the fetishism I value most and I love orzhov
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>>55327536
Grixis
[spoilers]Forced masturbation/forced mutual masturbation/forced oral[/spoilers]
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>>55330186
>playing more than one format
>playing at the LGS
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What are some fun additions to Daretti? I have Flayer or the Hatebound for some value welding
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>>55327536
Simic or Mardu
straight shota
>>
You are all sick
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>>55330732
I would assume to shit counters on his dudes.

Kalastria Bloodchief would also slot intothe deck well.

>>55330601
>Shadow Alley Denizen
I played a game a few days back against a buddy's Jank Madness Vampires using my old Lord of the Unreal deck. He leveraged Denizen and Call the Bloodline into a murder machine. It is a surprisingly useful card.
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>>55329091
Some people just own expensive ass cards
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>>55330795
No, we are all on an anonymous image board.
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>>55329524
Zur Doomsday
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>>55330795
Let me guess, straight mono white jailer deck with no more than 10% artifacts?

You're repressed to all hell.
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>>55327536
Dimir
Cuckquean
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Whats a good commander for vehicles? Is there even a viable vehicle tribal commander deck yet?
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Do we know if any creatures will be retcon'd as dinosaur?
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>>55330930
All the dragons
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>>55330930
Yes

OMG yes
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>>55329524
Maralen Dreams, turn 3/4 win guaranteed.
You can win on turn 2, but you'd need to draw Lotus Petal and/or Mox on turn 1.
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>>55330936
Thanks! This dinosaur deck I'm buildings will sure to be insanely OP!
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>>55330922
Depala, guy at my playgroup has a really good deck with her, due to her ability to get so many cards to the hand
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>>55330870
Nope. Boros and Vanilla sex
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>>55327536
Orzhov
Incest, impregnation and creampies, size difference
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>>55330930
This mother fucker right here.
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>>55330961
>Jailer
-
>Nope Boros

-_-
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>>55330060
One thing to keep aware of with this guy is that it's just straight up more costly for WotC to print DFCs, so it will probably be some time before he gets reprinted. The soonest possible return for him is FtV Transform, which will hardly drive the price down, and after that it wouldn't likely be unless they splurge on the next Masters.

This was a really predictable spike, and one that could make a good learning exercise if you don't want to get caught off guard next time.
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>>55330635
You underestimate just how much of the deck is Black. It's really like a 50/50 thing.
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>>55331013
Just like your mother
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>>55327536
Orzhov
Futa/Cuntboy/Gender Transformation, especially Genital Swapping

Painfully niche stuff sometimes.
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>>55330930

It's not a great list.

Hell, Magmasaur and Fungasaur are the only two that are really useful.
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>>55331021
Are you implying my mother is half black? That's a really weird thing to say.
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>>55330870
Purity is it's own reward
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>>55330984
>tribal commander decks
>tribal standard set
>tribal duel deck
>FTV Tribal
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>>55331040
>No Regal Behemoth
>No Brooding Saurian

It's like they hate fun.
>>
>>55331060
>no raptors
Its like they are admiting dinosaurs were not birds
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>>55331077
There are multiple raptors though.
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>>55331040
>Fungusaur
That practically has Enrage too, pretty nice
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>>55331049
That's not purity that's some lawful good white sadism and control.
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>>55331048
Yes. She's a mulatto
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>>55327536

UW
crossdressing, femboys, frotting, male vs male mating press
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>>55331040
These are all really cool and arguably better than a some of the dinosaur tribal we have, but none of them match *the aesthetic*
Deathmist can suck a dick
>>
I want to play something artifact focused, what is the most fun commander to go with?
>>
am I a terrible person if I'm thinking about playing Memnarch
>>
>>55331257
>>55331264
well there you go
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>>55330984
>This was a really predictable spike, and one that could make a good learning exercise if you don't want to get caught off guard next time.
>tfw can see obvious shit happening but never act on it
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>>55331277
>People speculating on edh cards
>find out people dont actually play edh on paper
>price drops back down
People will never learn that the only real speculations are reserved list cards
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>>55327536
sultai

consensual hetersexual sex in the missionary position between two consenting legal adults while hand holding and post coital cuddling
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>>55327536
Temur
Impregnation
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>>55330635
old zendikar/m10 tec - keep a fetch uncracked, dont get proc, crack, shuffle
also 60% of the deck is black
>>55330732
she seemed alright when I was building but I honestly havent hit her when playing yet
may end up getting cut.
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>>55330332
I thought I was the only person who do this.

Except i do it with 60 card precons.
>>
Anyone have idea how expensive foil unstable lands will be? Really need to pimp my basics.
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>>55331257
I killed my friend from 40 life with bosh over the weekend
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>>55331434
Round 50-70 magic bux id guess, its from a joke set that people will only draft for shits and giggles or open for the foil land lottery the set is completely useless otherwise and you would imagine people cracking packs for foil lands will most likely keep them because they might get 1 in a box, supply will be very low
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>>55331257
Muzzio
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>>55327536
Mardu.

Extreme omorashi.
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>>55327586
How much did you pay for it?
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>>55331530
Aww hell yeah
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>>55331196
Thats not orderly!
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>>55327536
naya
maids
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>>55331581
nothing lets me express my dom side better than UW commander

draw, land, pass is the most patrician way to spend your turn
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>>55331367
My man
Capcha : woodcross museum
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>>55331541
$30. Visited the convention with my mom and little brother and hit up IMA (crap, only pulled necropotence, not worth jumping thru hoops to stay blind)
Living in new england is cool
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>>55331367
You're legitimately fucked in the head.
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>>55331644
>Paid $30 for a card not legal in any set
>could have bought a set of proxys from chinaman with p9 and duals that are also not legal in any set
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>>55331367
>sultai
>filthy degenerate
It all checks out.
>>
>>55329139
You could probably build a super cheap Zada.
>>
How does Mind's Desire work with Sphinx-Bone wand. I'm hoping that every card I exile with Mind's Desire counts towards Sphinx-Bone Wand, but is there some difference between play and cast? I fear this is a nonbo.
Obviously I don't get the triggers off of every stormed spell, but maybe the ones I can cast with mind's desire? Same as Epic Experiment?
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>>55331818
>is there some difference between play and cast?

Play means you can also play lands that way. Spells are still cast when you play them though, so yes, and Instant or Sorcery played from Mind's Desire would interact with Sphinx-Bone Wand. The same is true for Epic Experiment. Even Mizzix Mastery, despite the fact you're casting copies.
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>>55331818
Specifically the inclusion of the word "play" implies that you can also play lands exiled. If it was only "you may cast cards...", you may not play lands exiled that way. There's no other difference, so it would work with Sphinx bone wand.
If a effect copies a spell, the copy was never cast, unless it's stated otherwise, and this is the case for spells in the stack, see the difference in between wordings of Isochron scepter or Eye of the storm and Fork or Reverberate.
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>>55331842
Thanks anon, I appreciate it. I'm pretty shit when it comes to rulings.
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>>55331851
>>55331853

In the same realm of things, if you exiled a fork effect off of mind's eye, you couldn't use it to target mind's eye correct? Because it's already resolving?
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>>55331869
Mind's Desire I meant, sorry
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>>55327536
Orzhov

giantess, breast expansion, mom/son, sph
>>
>>55331869
You could if you got the Fork from one of the storm copies of Mind's Desire. The original Mind's Desire will remain on the stack as all of its copies resolve, and you're able to cast spells in between any of the copies resolving.

Of course though, if you Fork a Mind's Desire it won't Storm again.
>>
Babby's first deck, would appreciate advice on which 27 cards to remove

http://deck (dot) tk/6NT41ueV

dumb 4chan spam filters
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>>55331910
Why not just make it on TappedOut?
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>>55331913
this is what my friend who taught me to play told me to use, idk
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>>55329139
Zada
Slightly modified Wizard precon (either Marisil jank or Inalla jank - I've been shitting around with Inalla mill lately)
Shirei
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>>55330635
Na. The deck is mostly black.
>>
mono green or mono blue?
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>>55331985
Mono X is dumb, 2 colors is the most comfy, 3 colors is the most competitive. 4 and 5 colors is for memesters
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>>55331985
Which commander in each color?
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>>55332050
thrun and unesh

sphinx tribal seems fun but i have never played green before and thrun interested me
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>>55332050
kraj in blue and kraj in green
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>>55332063
Unesh is much more enjoyable. All that you'd really do with Thrun is voltron.
>>
Anyone refunded stuff on magic card market?

I had some polish seller fail to get a 22 euro package shipped to me. he's promised a refund, but he isn't refunding shipping. is it normal to not refund shipping or is he fucking me over?
>>
>>55330883
I play orzhov or golgari, but I can respect that you have the best of all fetishes.
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>>55332063
Unesh is much better but Isperia, the Inscrutable is cute and fun, plus you get to splash white.
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isn't this just one big removal magnet?
Or does it have a place somewhere.
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>>55332340
With Doubling Season and if she isn't countered she knocks someone out of the game.
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>>55327536
Gruul
Skirts, tail plugs, loli, straight crossdessing (only in hentai)
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>>55332340

so many people have this thought process and i dont get it

how could something be good but also somehow your opponents dont want to remove it?

do you build decks with the assumption that your opponents are literal retards that will somehow not notice when a card is doing well for you?
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>>55327536
Grixis
Femdom, mind control
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>>55332363
That is true. Still she seems kinda expensive for what she does other than her ultimate. If there was one reason I would run her, it would be because of the repeatable removal.
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>>55332394

thats why you run planeswalkers period, because their abilities are repeatable. this one can protect herself decently, and allow you to get lots of uses from her -3

this kind of card is very powerful in slower metas, but its less good in combo-centric metas because you dont get a chance to have something sit in play for multiple turns generating value
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Who do I pick for a phyrexian themed deck? Either mono-b or multicolor. I don't really consider Atraxa, since she is overused and doesn't allow to run Tsabo Tavoc, while Tsabo doesn't add too much red phyrexian goodness to run her exclusively
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>>55332340
She's either going to destroy something or leave behind a body before being destroyed. If you kill something and then they spend another card getting rid of her, then she was a two-for-one. If they have to attack her off the table, then she was like a Maelstrom Pulse with a Fog attached.

The majority of scenarios involving you casting Vraska end positively for you.
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Any guesses on what C18 will look like? A sliver, Myr or eldrazi tribal could be fun.
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>>55332473
Skittles.
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>>55332490
Isn't that like putting a loaded gun to your head and requesting your opponent to hold it for a while? He needs a rather trimmed list for consistency, so non-infect phyrexians need not apply and probably will be targeted on sight. Great phyrexian feel though, I'll give you that
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>>55332473
Ertai. He covers important colors and has a lot of build-around potential.
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>>55332484
Color cycles are out the window, so they're probably going to focus on some theme.

They could do decks that go all in on some specific mechanic like lifegain, defender, or horsemanship
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Umm why dont standard showdown foil lands excist? Or are there 0 on sale.
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I have a question about my Omnath 2.0 deck

Let's say an opponent cast a boardwipe spell or a spot removal for Omnath (that would be most likely followed by a Wrath simply to avoid the damage), and I choose to sacrifice my elementals in response to gain additional benefits or actually be able to gain the benefit at all. So I sacrifice as many as I can via Perilous Forays to get more lands.
Would the landfall ability of Omnath activate before the Wrath/Path effect, so that I would be able to sacrifice even the elementals created because of Perilous Forays before the effect of the opponent's card activate?
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>>55332723
Yes. They put their wrath/removal on the stack, and unless it has split second you can use Perilous Forays to sacrifice a creature, which will get you the Bolt, and when the land comes in, the landfall trigger. Perhaps even more important, if you can do this enough times, and manage to kill the player who cast the spell, then the spell is exiled and never resolves.
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>>55329926
What 4 dragons cost combined $500?
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>>55333195
I looked up for the most expensive dragons, and they are:
>Alpha Shivan Dragon: $1023
>Zodiac Dragon: $250
>FTV Nicol Bolas: $65
>Pro Tour Treva: $30
So, by usual price no 4 dragons together would reach $500 unless you included an alpha or beta Shivan Dragon.

But then there is stuff like Karrthus, that is listed as $20~$30, but is out of stock in every major site I looked for. And considering he was talking about investors, it probably means $500 in speculated spiked price. And Karrthus isn't even that good, he is just nice tech against other dragon tribal player, since the average EDH deck doesn't even cast dragons.
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>>55333263
>Karrthus ist still 10 Euros in Europoor

Hehehe
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>>55332044
5 colors is the most competitive though, 3 colors is the perfect balance between comfy and competitive.
>>
5 color alt-wincon.deck
Is this doable or a waste of everyone's time?
>>
>>55333263
You guys think balefire dragon is gonna go up anymore? I managed to pick one up recently for 6$, gonna try it out in marduchesa.
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>>55333410
Also snagged a mana echoes for 16$ flat- wish I got it for 11 earlier, but I figure no reprint now is the time to buy for my locust god.
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>>55330346
cute fumo!
Kindred will go down a bit with the next reprint, but it seems like a new staple.
>>
>>55327536
Grixis or Mono-U
amazon position, panties, hair, inverted nipples, pegging, frottage, the list goes on
>>
>>55333410
I don't get why Balefire is 15$, like yeah, if it connects it's probably wiping the other guy's board and there's fun shit you can do with Repercussion and damage doublers but that's not worth 15$.
>>
>>55332473
Sheoldred?
>>
>>55332473
Gallowbraid
>>
Moments where someone in your playgroup did something to make you proud

>4 way edh game
>I'm playing inalla, someone else is playing an upgraded izzet precon with the experience counters (forgot the name of commander), Hana, and my other friend is playing my zedruu deck.
>I made the zedruu deck to be entirely political with the goal being to make vague deals i.e offering a 4 power flyer to someone if they don't attack you or do something else for you and once they do it you give them a goldnight castigator to fuck them over. It also had good stuff if you want to be nice in your deals.
>just told friend to have fun with it without telling him what the deck was intended to do.
>during game hana player is getting screwed by not drawing lands and online 2 lands out by turn 4 and a sol ring and hasn't gotten any card draw.
> hana player gets desperate and starts trying to make deals in exchange for card draw. he also has a really annoying enchantment out.
>zedruu says "get rid of your own enchantment and I'll give you card draw " hana is desperation takes deal.
>Hana removes enchantment
>zedruu player makes good on his deal and gives hana aggressive mining. Now hana can't play lands and has to sack lands to draw.

I was proud
>>
>>55333833
Mizzix.
>>
>>55333833
Sounds like an awesome idea for a deck
>>
>>55333518
It's a 6 year old Mythic that's never been reprinted with a significant casual appeal.
>>
>>55333900
it's a really fun deck. It doesn't pose an immediate threat so people usually leave you alone unless they are holding a grudge from another game. My favorite thing to do with it is to trade my platinum angel to someone and ask for something really good out of it and then play homeward path to get it back. Not competitive by any means but it's a fairly cheap deck that is super fun to play
>>
>>55333387
It's definately doable, but it will be expensive as fuck (it will be if you want a 5c deck with a good mana base). Besides, your opponents will fucking hate it.
>>
>>55333833
Too bad it doesn't sound like a deck that has much replay value, since the other players will already know that they can't trust the monkey paw.

At least in my playgroup, people don't take treason lightly. Not that they won't play with you anymore or they will just target you on the next game, but they are very less likely to trust you again.
>>
>>55332340
all PWs are removal magnets
>>
>>55333961
I mean even without people trusting you it's still fun. In my old playgroup I played it often and still had fun with it because it doesn't pose an immediate threat so you usually aren't the first target. I mean who is going to target the zedruu when there's a Kalia deck, saskia infect, and a nekusar deck out?
>>
>want to play boros
>boros sucks
>>
>>55334009
Well, I don't know about you, but my friend changed his Zedruu backstab deck for a more upfront one, since he thought that the deck wasn't as fun without the politics game, and no one was willing to change their optimal actions for a card that would get homewarded or straight fuck you up.

Although I say "upfront" he still uses stuff like steel golem to "force" someone to do what he wants. Have you tried the new curses? He really likes those, since he can cast them with politics, and then extra politics it for a donation of it.
>>
>>55326983
>How has Magic: the Investing screwed you over lately?
Not at all
my scatterbrained approach to buying cards has really paid off
and by that I mean im lucking I bought a bunch of bloodline vampires for random decks
dumb luck for the win?
>>
>>55332480
>The majority of scenarios involving you casting Vraska the Unseen end positively for you.
Except for the fact that you're paying 6 for sorcery speed removal
>>
>>55334597
>this planeswalker doesn't wipe the board and make itself hexproof the turn it comes into play
>2/10 not playable outside of craw wurm

This general's card evaluation skills are as bad as MTGSalvation
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>>55333263
If you want to count foils Scion is pretty high up there.
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>>55326983

Whats UP
>>
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Have these been shown in this thread yet?
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>>55327536
UW
sadistic bondage, tying up others, edging to a point of physical pain
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>>55334659
You would have a point if Maelstrom Pulse, Beast Within or Vraska 1.0 didn't exist. I'd honestly rather run Scour from Existence over her.

She's just a worse Desert Twister that absorbs 3 damage for you.
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>>55334802
Obvious snap include in monowhite voltron, and probably monowhite in general.
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>>55334802
Jesus Christ. It's a Lotus land. If you put it on a trampler creature, the opponent basically needs to block it fully.

>>55334821
This one is meh, both sides are meh. It's still a free land, I guess.
>>
>>55334802
this one's good

>>55334821
this is meh
>>
Should i buy the Bloodline keeper now or wait for it to drop? its been rising like crazy
>>
>>55334913
don't buy it. Vampire tribal is not worth it.
>>
>>55334821
>>55334828
It's a pretty cute card, the thing comes with a body and if you attack with three dudes it ramps you and gives you a okay token producer. If it cost more than W I'd call it shit but it costs W so I can't. Obviously not for this format though.
>>
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>>55335225
>>55335225
>>55335225
New thread is up
>>
ok with the new cradle being printed could i get som suggestion on thigns that would fit in a mono green beatdown deck.

Big thing small things things that make people go: That exist?!
>>
>>55333833
Sounds fun for playing with a group first time. Replay value is not great since, people won't be as trusting when you play that Zedruu deck
>>
>>55326983
All the MTG speculation has benefited me greatly.

If a card gets bought out, I don't really need it. But several cards I already had have gone up a LOT in value
>>
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>>55329926
I'm a disgusting casual but I put this guy in mine for funsies and he's a pretty good time if you can get him to pop.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=394675
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>>55335251
Willow Satyr and Tornado make people go "that exists?".

Other good stuff for mono green, Hornet Queen, Whisperwood Elemental, and Mosswort Bridge.
>>
>>55336459
How do you safely use Whisperwood elemental with literaly 0 control over the top of your library and without heavily gimping yourself on non-creature spells?
>>
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excuse me fro offtopic post, I am not regular /tg/ visitor.
But, can anyone explain to me how to participate in Ixalan Prerelease on Magic Online
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