/5eg/ - Fifth Edition General

>>55325835
Wanna know the best part? We tend to put into vote what's the next campaign and next system we use.

99% of the time it's PF and when I ask why we can't try something new, it's always "Pathfinder does it better." or "I don't wanna learn new system when it can easily be homebrewed in Pathfinder".

The only reason 5th is allowed was because it was to them, a dumbed down version of PF.

If it wasn't similar at all to PF or any of the other D20 stuff, they would have said no.

PoA scan when???

Ready for UA: Expanded Trinkets Table?

>>55325887
Princes of the Apocalypse has been out for a while

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>>55325890
FOOD AND PROVISIONS OR RAGE

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>>55325887
I'm working on it but I'm trying not to damage my book so it's slow goings.
I have the first chapter if you need something to get your started.

UA: NPC Random Generation Tables

>>55325932
But we already have those

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Is this really all the Warforged info for 5e? I could have sworn there was supposed to be a penalty to Charisma.

>>55325848
UA: Council of Wyrms when?

UA: Flavors of moss.

>>55325977

UA: Noncombat Flora and Fauna

>>55325971
5e doesn't do penalties, except for monster races I guess.

>>55325986
Well, I've nothing to complain about, I suppose. Thanks.

Sell me on high elves.
I'm rolling a wizard for a new campaign and high elf is clearly one of the best choices, but I've always found roleplaying one unappealing.
If they live so long that day to day shit doesn't matter to them, why wouldn't a high elf just be an aloof asshole about everything?

What would happen if a male Halfling had a child with a Storm Giant.

Asking for a friend....

me. I'm asking because this happened in my game.

>>55325986
And only two monster races at that. Goblins and bugbears get off fine.

>/5eg/
>"No don't give npc's PC class levels that's bad"
>DMG
>Hey here's some PC class features you can give to your npc's
Well what is it?

>>55326014
It aint possible

>>55326001
Because adventuring doesn't just concern day-to-day shit. Most adventures concern either significant threats, which a high elf would be able to see the significance of in terms of future consequences, or a promise of treasure, which appeals to everyone.

>>55326014
There is no child, it's just the Halfling finally falling out of the Storm Giant's vagina after getting stuck up there for 9 months.

>>55326042
There's a difference between the giant boss having action surge and being a level 10 fighter

>>55326042
Those are two completely different things you're trying to equate

>>55326059
>>55326061
It's literally a class you give to villains

Go look at death domain cleric and oathbreaker paladin

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>>55326001
Well, you can be an asshole to your entire party for no fucking reason
You can just dismiss everyone's plans because CLEARLY you're the one with the most intelligence and the most experience
You can also throw lines about your grandchildren being older than most of your party
tl;dr unlimited dickery
Also you're a fucking wizard
Someone in the party mad at you?
Well what's he gonna do, stab you?
That shit ain't gonna work

>>55326082
Giving class levels to major characters or villains is fine and pretty much no one here argues that. It's giving class levels to EVERY SINGLE NPC the DM makes that is a bad fucking diea

>>55326049
>stuck in her vagina for 9 months
I think he's dead

>>55326091
>Well, you can be an asshole to your entire party for no fucking reason
Player dropped

>>55325848
>Horizon Walker Ranger archetype is it any good?

>>55326042
a better way to phrase it would be "the same rules that apply to creating PCs don't apply to creating NPCs". in other words, it's entirely appropriate to make an NPC that is a mash-up of druid and barbarian features who casts using his constitution. he doesn't have to be a specific "rules legal" build you could replicate as a player.

and because 5e doesn't have NPC classes you shouldn't be handing out class levels to every peasant, blacksmith or town guard either (unless they have other experience). a peasant isn't a level 4 commoner like 3e, they're just a statblock.

>>55324917
>>55324949
Illusionist cheats the reaper man or whatever incarnation of Death you have regularly.

>>55325890
>Implying it's not Unearthed Arcana: Diversity Quotas

>>55325890
nah bruh, it's gonna be "UA: Alternative AC rules" (aka THAC0)

>>55326359
pls no

>>55326326
This

>>55326383
search your heart, you know it to be true.

>>55326359
>UA: Greyhawk AC

>>55326326
Hey you should post that adventure diversity analysis, that was better bait.

>>55326406
>UA: Greyhawk Proficiencies
I long for the days when as a level one wizard I was more useful because I could actually read and write rather than my being able to cast one magic missile a day.

>>55326359
>>55326383
>>55326399
My cousin hasn't played d&d since the 80s or something. He's always loved it but he lost touch with all of it when he joined the navy and went to college and had a family and all that.

Now that his kids are older he wanted to start getting into it so he could run a game for them.

I sent him my extra 5e books and didn't hear back from him for a week or so.

I get a call one day

"Hey man, I'm looking through these books and it seems familiar enough, but I can't find how they do THACO in this edition."

I was like "oh dude...."

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>>55326359
>UA: Alternative AC rules

>>55326428
But anon, a level 1 wizard can cast up to 3 Magic Missiles each day! provided you get a short rest after the first two

>>55326419
Wasn't even baiting, just expressing how dogshit the recent UAs have been by saying the next one will be more dogshit. I want food and provisions as much as everyone else

>>55326455
no one actually wants it, which is why it's going to be the next UA.

>>55326493
>no one actually wants it
Speak for yourself

>>55326456
And we get free fire bolts and a guaranteed 6 hp! How times have changed.
Really do enjoy level 1 5e though, the power is a nice balance.

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>>55326527
>wanting THAC0 in 5e
>unironically

>Misread the spell entry for Stinking Cloud when players shows it to me
>For some reason thought it incapacitated the creature on a failed save rather than just causes them to lose their action that round
>Run it that way for 4 sessions before I realize my mistake

Well I feel fucking stupid

>>55325884
As somebody who has played in/run a couple dozen different systems over the years this always frustrates me. I thought this kind of thinking died back when OGL caused a mass extinction in the RPG industry but I guess PF has allowed that to continue.

They don't even have GURPS on store shelves now that they've switched to print on demand/PDFs as their business model, though that's partially because things have shifted away from systems that crunchy apart from Pathfinder it seems.

>>55326001
So play a massive aloof asshole, make charisma your dump stat. Just don't be a cunt to your players or DM.

>>55325972
Dear lord, that'll make Mystic's page count look tame.

Whats the best way to give my players 13500 experience in a single session
>inb4 milestone meme

>>55326737
Exp for everything that can be an encounter, pass that persuasion check? Exp, found that trap? Exp

>>55326737
accidentally genocide a race of monsters and give them experience for each individual.

>>55326737
By using milestones and not worrying about that shit anymore.

>>55326808
>alright party, you walk into goblin town
>oops you gave them all the pleague
>you technically killed them all let me tally up the exp

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>>55326737
stop being a faggot and use milestones

>>55326737
Deck of Many Things

>>55326737
Assuming a party of 4, pit them against an Ancient Blue Dragon who is in the middle of kicking out her kid, a Young Blue Dragon. They are CR 23 and 9 respectively, totalling to 55,000 xp which would give each player 13,750

>>55326737
Using XP in 2017 is the meme friends, even video games are moving away from that shit

>>55326737
Grab a magic broom and the acid splash cantrip then use them to kill the tarrasque.

>>55326737
really though
what's wrong with milestones

>>55326923
Because I don't use them

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>>55326877

that even works with skt

>>55326942
But iymrith has 2 kids, and they were already kicked out, should I just have them roll a rock onto Klouth?

Is the hype for ToA considered justified?

>>55326980
There are rules for racing dinosaurs. Of course it's justified.

>>55326988
>There are rules for racing dinosaurs
FUCKING SOLD!

>>55326845
My party once found an underground salamander city that was acting as a base for a adamantine mining operation. It was at the convergence of ley lines linked to the four primary elemental planes. The party decided that they wanted to stop this and chose to fuck with the convergence. They threw the elemental balance out of whack and and with an explosion that overcharged the main caster with magical energy and created elemental adamantine crystals throughout the cavern system. It also opened up cracks into the water table and flooded the whole cavern. They managed to escape by the skin of their teeth and drowned every salamander in the city, some 5000 dudes. I just gave them the level after that, and the caster got some neat new powers.

Any good recommendations for an artificer's mechanical servant? It has to be a beast with CR <=2. Right now I'm looking at a Sabertooth tiger, but wanted to know if there was a better choice out there.

>>55326980

I can't say I have any hype for ToA. I'll download the pdf when it's out and give it a once over, but all my hype is boiling for Xanathar's. November cannot come soon enough.

>>55326936
but milestones solve this sort of problem

>>55326980
>>55326988
>>55327014
WHERE IS THE PDF OF IT I NEED IT NOW.

>>55326878
My players voted on XP or Milestones, and they requested XP, so I'm rolling with XP, they just get XP for quests, monsters, and "plot" threads.

>>55327022
Dire Wolf is pretty nice.

>>55327051
Read the thread(s)

>>55327014
>>55327051
Some glorious anon posted a pic of the dino racing tables in the last thread >>55323713
No one seemed to notice for some reason

>>55327022
Something with Fly speed that you can use as a mount. It's worthless in combat anyway.

What variant rules / house rules are always a good idea?


IE
> Using non-default attributes for skill checks. (Strength for Intimidate, etc)

>>55326737
They encounter Dark Lord who is having existential crisis.
He will not be hostile and if they try to attack, he will effortlessly imprison them in forcefield for several hours.
Then he will tell them of his life, his rise to power, his many great goals and recent realization ho vain they all are.
PCs can try to reason with him or intrigue further, but regardless of their reasoning or persuasion, he will proceed to off himself.
By the logic of being only creature that interacted with him around the time of his demise, PCs get all the 13500XP for his "defeat".

Dark Lord resurrects some time later and with his newfound motivation becomes a legitimate threat to the realm that PCs have to stop. He will remember this encounter.

>>55327107
Short rests are 8 hours and long rests are 7 days

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>girl joins our group
>she brings all kinds of tasty food so we can eat while we play
>she isn't an attention whore
>doesn't flirt in-character
>not a great player but not bad either

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>>55326326
Along with an alternative alignment system.

>>55327107
Spell points for sorcerers
New characters must not have the same race and class combo as your previous character
Longbows can use strength instead of dexterity

>>55327127
Ignore this cunt, that's literally the worst variant rule in this entire edition

>>55327104
The only one that comes to mind is the Giant Eagle. Dunno that you can ride that.

What do you guys think of this homebrew? Too OP? Too weak?

http://homebrewery.naturalcrit.com/share/HJZbpfQLUb

>>55327134

> Roll 1d100 to determine your gender
> Privilege tracker.

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>>55327169
>1d100

>>55327142
Obviously it depends on the situation

I run short rest 8 hours, long rest 7 days, assuming overland travel. This changes if they go into dungeons or spend time in a major city. It lets me have the encounters they'd run into happen over the course of their entire trip from one place to another rather than having 24 chimeras descend on my party over the 4 days they go from a town to a city

>>55326163
Also curious about this, trying to decide between Monster Slayer and Horizon Walker.

>>55327169
>d100
You need to roll a Dinfinity you opressive bigot

>>55327022
Allosaurus

>>55327129
>wait girls are people too?

>>55327134
>you're either nice, an asshole, or a double asshole
>no in between

>>55327233
>1 girl acting decently makes up for all the dozens that are/were shit

>>55327134
>neutral replaced with selfish
what the fuck is this shit

>>55327254
>Female player in my game
>literally playing the "I roll to seduce meme bard"
Never again

>>55327273
>male player in my game
>playing literally any autistic meme character
>never again
This is what you sound like

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>>55327298

>>55327298
Back to Tumblr.

>>55327165
>Though the large majority of necromancers merely want to help people
HOLY KEK

>no armor proficiency
>can start with leather armor
???

All in all this is kind of redundant, wizard already has a necromancer subclass.

>>55327331
Go tell your mother how little you think of women so she can beat your ass

>>55327329
>>55327331
>literally any mention that not all female players are awful is SJW white knighting
wow you sure showed me

>>55327352
>treating men and women the same
OH MY LORD SUCH AWFUL
>>55327359
No just yours

>>55327352
>>55327359
>girls play RPG like shit
>make note of one that didn't
>"omg how dare you speak ill of all womyn ur literal pewdiepie"

>>55327376
>>make note of one that didn't
>swear off ever playing with another woman
Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it?

>>55327392
Actually I play with quite a few women, 3 or 4 (one is a tranny) on the regular, I'm just never DMing for one again

>>55327351
I thought the same thing, but one of my players has a fetish for necromancers it seems. One thing that was odd to me was no spellcasting from the start

>>55327428
I have two women in a group that I DM and there is literally no difference in being a DM for either gender, unless your group is all only one

>>55327298

the time has come
a fact's a fact
suicide is painless
it's your best tack

>>55327142
> Spell points for sorcerers
Wholeheartedly agree.

> New characters must not have the same race and class combo as your previous character
Never been in a situation that warranted this

> Longbows can use strength instead of dexterity
I can dig it.


One I like doing is objects hitting cover. If an attack would have hit if it weren't for cover, it hits the object granting cover instead (including other players, monsters, etc)

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>>55327465
>my cuckold shitposting made someone think

>>55327329
If standing up for women on the internet is white knighting is standing up for men on the internet black knighting? Serious question.

I had two girls on my group (at the same time), and I never had any problems with them. In fact, one of them always played male characters, because "female fighters are not very realistic".

Could I get some feedback on a Campaign I'm putting together? The setting is Eberron 3.5

>>55327529
Theyre good, you should keep them
>>55327519
No, black knighting is when you stand up for a negro on the internet

Hey all, what are some good racial slurs? I have a bunch already, but I need more. I like the worldbuilding they add.

Plus seeing the players' faces when I call them terrible names is always fun.

>>55327559

can't go wrong with a gold ol' knife-ear

>>55327542
This is 5eg, dude. Make your own thread

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>>55327465
>>55327513
Jesus Christ.

>>55327559

nigger

>>55327559
Human = Cuck
Elf = Knife Ear
Gnome = Tink
Dwarf = Shrub

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>>55327519
>>55327549
A black knight slays white knights.

>>55327559
"Kike."

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>>55327142
>spell points for sorcerors
I like this one. Are there any other magic users that it makes sense to give the mana bar?

>>55327628
Warlocks

>>55327107
Racial Modifiers - +2 as normal, +1 can be placed in any Ability Score
Ability Score Increases at character level 4, 8, 12, 16, and 19
Fighters gain bonus Ability Score Improvements at Fighter Levels 6 and 14
Rogue gain a bonus Ability Score Improvement at Rogue Level 10

>>55325848
Does anyone have good and fast-rolling ways to run 1v1 duels in the vein of fencing, jousting, iaido, or mage duels?

>>55327549
>>55327603
Gotta say, >>55327603 came up with a more satisfactory answer along with visual accompaniment. Well played, gentlemen.

>>55327641

Rock/Paper/Scissors

>>55327641
Make an ability check, higher total wins

>>55327559
>>55327568
I like this one from the elf racial slurs thread yesterday:

> twigger
Also, just adding something related to that race together with -skin works too.

> Dirtskin
> Gobboskin
> Sclaleskin
> Pinkskin

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>It's a /pol5eg/ thread

>>55327641
>>55327662
>>55327668

At least break it up into multiple rolls, so players don't feel cheated by random chance.

My rule of thumb is a quick 3 back to back, describing each roll result succinctly, with the winner of the last roll taking it.

>>55327694
>frogposter complains about /pol/posting
Dumb frogposter

>>55326091
last evoker - should have been
>GET THE WATTA NIGGA

>>55326493
>>55326527
I'm not a THAC0 fan, but I do like active defense rolling instead of DM rolling attacks vs. static number.

> I like it both as player and DM

>>55327772
>active defense rolling
wat

>>55327134
Bottom should be malicious rather than ruthless
Chaotic selfish would be ruthless

>>55327854
I assume anon means rolling for you defense instead of it being a static number.

>>55327854
Monsters attack with a set DC. Your AC is 1d20+Dex and armor, I think.

For armor the bonus is the book bonus -10.

>>55327854
>>55327879
Dex penalties on armor still apply. The point is to make players feel more involved when it's the monster's turn.

I think it's not a bad idea, personally.

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Polling for ideas on a Temple dedicated to a Deity named ' Speaker of the Bleeding Many' that I generated through the Silent Legions RPG sheet, and their domain is Earth. I think their theme is that they care for those who die in conflict, and they're animistic.
I was thinking a test according to her Tenets might be a fun challenge, but I'm not sure how I'd do it without it being "Oh, to pass this test you need to take sympathy on this Goblin" because I like my goblins to be fuckers who deserve no mercy.

Anyone have an album of all the previous images posted from ToA?

>>55327879
So 1d20 + (AC - 10)?

>>55327896
It does make the player feel like they're more involved and that their character is dodging or blocking, rather than sitting there like an idle chess piece.

>>55327902
If I am remembering correctly, yes. Keep in mind I am not the anon who originally posted the phrase. Just some asshole with $0.10 to offer.

>>55327641
>Fencing
Have both combatants roll persuasion (Dex) v perception. Winning the persuasion gets you a hit. First to 3 hits and you lose.

>Jousting
Normal roll to hit, roll athletics (con) to stay mounted. DC starts at 10, increases by 1 each time you get hit.

>Iaido
Opposed reflex saves. DC is 10+Dex Mod of the attacker. Losing by 5 gets a clean hit, first to get hit 3 times loses.

>Mage Duels
I have no idea, I feel like they should just battle it out normally. Assume both sides have counterspell prepared and use arcana checks constantly to determine spell level. Maybe do Arcana vs Deception checks to fake the level of spell being cast. A sorcerer casting spells subtly wouldn't even allow his opponent a check.

>>55327902
There is a UA for it but yeah. Static attacks are standard+11

>>55327902
>>55327915
Monster DC is their attack bonus +10, I think? +15 if you're a killer DM, I suppose.

>>55327929
>>55327915
>>55327906
>>55327902
>>55327896
>>55327879
>>55327872
>>55327854
https://media.wizards.com/2015/downloads/dnd/UA5_VariantRules.pdf

Party is:
Moon Druid
Totem Barb
Thief Rogue
Lore Bard

What can I roll to round it up?

Who is your current PC? What are their goals? What do you enjoy about playing them?

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>no warlock patron for raising the dead
Is it just me or does that seem like the number one thing an edgy kid would sell his soul to be able to do?

>>55327967
Wiz / Sorc

>>55327971
It is strange to me that the only viable necromancer in 5e is the wizard.

>>55327129
Impregnate her.

>>55327359
Ignore those autists

>>55328086
Go fourth and rescue another damsel in distress.

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>>55328086
>1 hour ago

>>55327971
Ask your dm to unlock wizard necromancy list
Maybe Homebrew some invocations based on the wizard necromancy specialization

Am I the only one that just dislikes the idea of giving sorcerer spell points? I find that it screws with the martial vs caster divide by allowing them to spam their best spells more effectively, without actually changing most of the things that make them bad.

>>55327107
1 stage of Exhaustion per hitting 0 hp, the second this was implemented my players stopped feeling invincible, without anyone actually dying yet.

>>55328232
The point is that you also combine spell points with sorcery points, so that sorcerers have more choice between "more spells" and "more metamagic". It doesn't do anything to the martial/caster divide since this change alone doesn't make sorcerers better than wizards.

>>55327898
Here
https://imgur.com/a/iglMj

>>55328232
You have it wrong, anon. Casters aren't better than martials because they have big flashy fireballs, they're better than martials because they have so many more problem solving abilities once the combat is over, especially charisma casters, the biggest cancer to ever grace D&D.

>>55328241
I really want to do that, but it's been a hard sell switching my players over to this.

>>55328267

this

>>55328232
It's a trade-off. Going big blaster and stacking metamagics robs them of any kind of utility or versatility.

>>55328241
This is a good idea.

>>55325884
Sounds like a good reason to find a new group desu

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>>55327129
>new girls joins our CoS group
>she's ultra sperg nerd
>she could be cute if she lost weight, but she a fatty
>she's legit a smart nerd, but holy smoke is she awkward as all fuck
>more than once tries to act all flirty in game (she's a tiefling bard), but she has no ability to even act partially sultry or alluring so it comes off as nothing but awkward as hell.
>can't come up with an insult other than "fuck you" for vicious mockery
>she is giving me SJW vibes but hasn't said anything political yet, just a gut feeling.

not sure what to make of her

>>55328313
I was honestly considering some of the harsher variant rules, like the Massive Damage stuff, since I tend to run a small number of combats per session. The exhaustion thing's an easier introduction.

>>55328386
Give her time, as long as she isn't a sjw ypu should be good

>>55328267
The thing is it completly screws with the one thing martials do better than casters, having consistent dmg per round, by allowing them to just constantly spam quicken empower twin cantrips and craping out massive dmg. Not only that it doesn't fix the fact that your basically forced to play fire or ice dragon sorc if you enjoy not sucking massive dick.

>>55328386
Make her your waifu. Drag her to the gym with you and watch the results

>>55328386
She should be self-aware of her inability to sell flirtation and play it off as the character being awkward but successful anyway because Tiefling charm

>>55328422
>Going on dates with your new "waifu" to the gym
Am I just really autistic but this sounds really appealing

>>55328467
Depends on the person you're bringing, I suppose.

>>55328420
>constantly spam quicken empower twin cantrips
Can't quicken and twin on the same turn.
>craping out massive dmg
It's still no match for a GWM fighter, which you clearly play since all you seem to care about is "massive damage"
>your basically forced to play fire or ice dragon sorc if you enjoy not sucking massive dick
minmaxer please fuck off and die

>>55328544
>Can't quicken and twin on the same turn.
Why not?

I once heard of a DM that, after all was said and done in terms of racial ASIs and point-buy setup, gave all male PCs +1 to the physical stats and -1 to the mental stats, and female PCs -1 to physical and +1 to mental.

Is that as moronic as I think it is? The guy telling me about it seemed to think it was reasonable, but personally I think it just makes people play certain genders for certain classes. This game ain't a realism sim, after all.

Captcha: wade bathroom. Why tho.

>>55328560
Well I guess you could quicken one and twin the other, but that's going to drain your points absurdly fast, especially if you also use empowered. Spending 5 points per turn is fine for maxed cantrip spam.

>>55327142
I tried spell points for sorcs in the game im running and both i and the player running the sorc loves it. I also gave him all the metamagics at level 3 and as a 9th level sorc he pretty much metamagics every spell he casts

>>55328585
It's really stupid and autistic. Why on earth they'd assume that sexual dimorphism is exactly the same in a fantasy world (or why it's even worth a stat change in our own world) is beyond me.

If someone wants that kind of ridiculous pseudo-simulationism, they really shouldn't bother with the most streamlined and narrative edition of all fucking D&D.

>>55328405
Yeah, my players just feel like, and I quote:

> It messes with the balance of combat
> It makes every fight an up hill battle

My response was that that was the problem. Hitting 0 hp shouldn't even be a consideration in combat tactically or part of that formula. It should be avoided at all cost, not just some minor setback.

>>55328267
Is it conventionally done by combining the two pool numbers, e.g. a sorcerer 10 has 74 (64+10) points, or do they have to make do with the 64?

>>55328420
Maybe the power boost of spell points for sorcerers should be compensated for by disallowing metamagic on cantrips? You make a good point, it seems to me that keeping sorc and spell points separated is maybe the right idea.

>>55328627
See that's what I said.

>>55328612
Damn, in my game I allow sorcs to prepare their metamagic options each day instead of being locked in to only a few. Also, if you think you might ever reach level 20 with them, I'd suggest changing the sorcerer's 20th level ability to allowing them to use metamagic on the spells of other creatures. I've never had a level 20 sorc yet but I think that would create some awesome shenanigans

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Aspiring GM here! Anyone want to help fill out the blank spaces of the map? Looking for some fun ideas. I have a general idea of the setting so far.

>Elven Reclaimers seeking to revive a dead stone titan. It's a massive humanoid and they need help to find and retrieve the pieces. Most of the neighboring factions may have a piece of the titan by chance.
>Lizardfolk are another neutral faction ruled over by a benevolent couatl. Their jungle is slowly being subsumed by the constant harassment of the dragon.
>"Get out of my swamp, REE!" Bullywugs are the last neutral faction, hostile at first but can be reasoned with.
>Green dragon terrorizes everyone, except the subservient goblins who offer it tribute.
>Goblin pirates are pure evil and carved out a massive port city in the jagged coastline.
>Kua-Toa and Merrow hate everyone, especially their closest neighbors.

Do your settings really take anything from the books other than the races, monsters, spells, and gameplay mechanics? How original should they be?

>>55328602
Early on you don't do that, you do it late when you have a shit ton of spell points to sit on, early on empowering every cantrip and twinning haste once is enough. I guess my problem with spell points is that it makes the already viable ways to play sorcerer better without really helping those that were bad.

>>55328585
>women with +1 INT
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_inventors
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Women_inventors

The whole premise is silly. As an adventurer you're already an aberration from your racial norms. Let your freak flag fly.

>>55328676
So you're saying that later in the game, when you know a bunch of high level spells, metamagics, and have a shitload of points, you spend all your time in combat doing the most mind-numbingly boring cantrip spam to maximize your damage?
It's your game, but I really don't give a single shit about what you think.

Do web and pyrotechnics work with create bonfire/flaming sphere as well as I think they do? I'm looking at wizard's spell list and it seems like they have a lot of good spell combinations

>>55328666
Ive changed a bunch of stuff but he's playing a multiclassed sorc/monk

>>55328705
My point is that it buffs the most mind numbingly boring way to play sorcerer, with little to no benefit to more interesting ones. There's very little benefit to social oriented subtle builds. Buffing doesn't really care since most good buffs are concentration. You can't even nova as hard since you only get one of each spell higher than 5th. All the while your spell list is still ass.

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>>55328671

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meh

>>55328676
>it makes the already viable ways to play sorcerer better
How? If you're doing this at high level, you'll have plenty of spell slots to convert to sorcery points to do your boring ass cantrip spam anyway.
>without really helping those that were bad
Meanwhile, the sorcs with the change are free to use metamagic more often without feeling like they're "over budgeting" or wasting their metamagic on non-optimal spells. I have a feeling you don't really know what you're talking about.

>You can't even nova as hard since you only get one of each spell higher than 5th
Oh no, one less 6th level spell AT LEVEL 19 and one less 7th level spell AT LEVEL 20. WHAT A FUCKING HORROR! WHATEVER WILL I DO WITH THIS MASSIVELY INCREASED FLEXIBILITY THAT I GET AS A TRADEOFF FOR A NERF THAT 99% OF PLAYERS WILL NEVER SEE???
Are you actually retarded?

Give me two magic items to give to a death domain cleric and oathbreaker paladin that my 4th level PC's will be fighting

>>55328866
Without spell points it's way less efficient to cantrip spam at high level since the conversion wasn't one to one. Your change barely helps the areas sorcerer needed help and makes the absolute best way to play them spamming fire bolt all day. All the while not fixing the metamagics that are completely Garbo and not giving them an expanded spell list two of sorcerers biggest problems. By the time they reach the point that they can freely use their metamagics all the goddamm time it's already time for max damage cantrip spam. Because you were taking the only three metamagics that aren't subtle worth taking anyways.

>>55328997
>All the while not fixing the metamagics that are completely Garbo and not giving them an expanded spell list two of sorcerers biggest problems
Who the fuck said not to do this? Literally no one said that this is the only change that sorcerers needed, just that it was ONE change that should be made for sorcerers, which you incorrectly think is only beneficial for minmaxing cuntbags like yourself. Will you fuck off and read for once you shithead autist?

>>55328681
>inventing is the only measure of intelligence
Flawed premise out the gate. It also doesn't make sense to judge the accomplishments of women in history, as women were historically oppressed and had little to no opportunities. A better argument would be to point to how few women are in STEM fields nowadays.

However, you could also point to how much better women are at interpreting emotions and socializing with people. Should women get a +1 to wis and cha?

>>55329079
You should've read the rest of the post, anon.

>>55329092
I did. I just addressed the argument he made. We agree in the end, but that doesn't mean his arguments are free from criticism.

>>55329079
>how few women are in STEM fields nowadays.
The use of nowadays is a little strange because that's a number that's been increasing.

>>55328719
They do.

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>>55329119
The problem with your argument, in turn, is that the different types of intelligence recognized do not all align with D&D intelligence. Naturalist intelligence falls within D&D's Wisdom, Musical, Interpersonal and linguistic intelligence within Charisma, Kinesthetic intelligence within Dexterity, etc.

Anyone have any good ideas for a magic cestus?

>>55329077
I don't like spell points. For various reasons, the fact that it's continuously spouted as the go to buffs to sorcerers, that everyone needs to implement as if it fixes all of sorc problems is one of them. My posts were simply me explaining that why I didn't like spell points and why I did not think it was worth using on its own if at all. If me explaining why I think a system breaks the game for what I consider to be minimal benifit to most other play styles makes me a minmaxing cuntbag when I specifically stated that I dislike that then I don't know what to say to you.

>>55329217

T-Rex heads. that breathe fire.

>>55328987
Never forget that if an enemy has magic items then eventually so will your players

>>55329284
Pretty sure that's his plan, anon

>>55328987
A deck of many things

>>55329224
>I don't like spell points
That's fine, I don't give a shit about your opinion then. Go ahead and fuck off.

>>55328987
Combat-applicable magic items or just kinda neat magic items?

>>55329284
Sadly, it's the end of my campaign. So it won't have further effect due to college/work killing any hope of me running past this last arc

>>55329312
You were the one who insulted me because I don't like poorly thought out system anon. If you really didn't give a shit about my opinion you wouldn't have sperged out like a turboautist.

>>55329313
Combat due to >>55329326
Party is
>gwf/gwm Fighter
>Wild mage sorcerer with Lucky
>Life cleric with healer feat
>Lore bard with tough

>>55329352
>poorly thought out system
And you call me the autist
kys

What is the best feats & abilities to take as a Human Artificer?

Could use some advice. I've given my players little sidequests to do, and upon completing them I give them a magic item. I'm not sure what to give to this War Cleric in my party, he seems to be trying to tiptoe the line between caster and fighter. Are there any magic items that would be sorta for casters and sorta for martials? Something in the rare to very rare range, though legendary is fine if it's not too powerful.

Dragon Wyrmlings can speak right?

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rate my current party
>phoenix sorcerer
>old retired rogue
>open hand monk
>dual wielding dex fighter

current going into the desert to fight a vampire lord

I'm making a sorcerer, would it make sense to take gold over the background/class starting package, and just buy a bedroll clothes and rations? Do I actually need an arcane focus?

>>55329437
Is this a JoJoke?

>>55329451
>Do I actually need an arcane focus
That depends, do you want to cast spells?

>>55329382
There it is again, all the not caring! You can tell how little he cares by how he responded to this post in less than ten minutes and how his first instinctive response to someone disagreeing with them is to tell them to insult them and tell them to commit suicide.

>>55329416
Weapon of Spell Storing.

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>>55329437
>Only one magic guy and a bunch of weakling melee

prepare to have a great time

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>>55329437
IS THAT

>>55329459
>first instinctive response to someone disagreeing with them
You really don't understand anything about what's going on here, do you?

Sorcerer Changes
Can choose to use Spell Point system, combine Spell Point and Sorcery Points into one pool

Pick a wizard school or cleric domain that fits your character's natural aptitude, when attaining spell level 2, 4, 6 and 8 you select a spell from that school or domain to add to your spells known, the spell chosen must be of a level you can cast

When you learn a metamagic option, instead learn 2 metamagic options

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>>55329456
>>55329437

>>55329456
>>55329477
I get the sorcerer and old rogue, but who's the dual Dex fighter? Polnareff only had one sword.

>>55329505
He used two swords at least once, and for some reason he's shown stabbing with two swords in the OP

>>55329437
>tfw nobody remembers kakyoin or iggy

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>>55329481

Best class/mc for an archer with no hope of going past level 10?

>>55329522
>he still doesn't get it

>>55329484

You already learn 2 at 3rd level, so I'd say bump it up to 3 at 3rd and then 2 at the other levels at which you learn metamagic and that'd do. You'd eventually know all but one of them.

Otherwise, looks nice to me.

>>55329529
Arcane archer fighter is fun

>>55329529
elven accuracy rogue

>>55329507
Yeah, he was using Silver Chariot and he was being possessed by Anubis, the mind-controlling sword stand. The OP just gave him two rapiers because it didn't want to spoil the Anubis bit .

>>55329550
Fine then, tell me.

>>55329178
This is true.

>>55329515
>tfw kakyoin forgets how to use his stand so he just keeps shooting emeralds instead

Other than sorcerer, do any other classes need to be adjusted? Just PHB stuff.

>>55329599
>Polnareff forgets he can make 9 copies of his stand

Best fighting styles?

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>>55329217
Reskin a club for the basic stats (1d4, bludgeoning, light)
Have them be a pair of items that are OK independently but work well in tandem.
Have the right-hand one be a +1 weapon, and if it hits, the left-hand one gets advantage on its roll (which doesn't get proficiency bonus). The left-hand weapon also does +1d4 thunder damage. Say that it's more powerful, heavier, and therefore harder to hit with unless the other caestus, which is in tune with it, nails the same target.

Gets kinda powerful with a class that has multiattack, but it's still just 1d4 or 2d4, so it's not so bad. Let them only fill 1 attunement slot and I think you're OK.

If you want something more powerful, say the right one is one of those pauldron-sleeve things like pic related (but metal)

>>55329614
Assuming revised ranger counts, warlock a bit and rogue.

>>55327967
>What can I roll to round it up?
dubs

Tell me what to roll /5eg/

the current party is War Cleric, Bard (hasn't decided lore/valor), and a ranger

What would a warlock that sold his soul to an modron/mechanicus entity look like? Not really looking for an existing Pact, just thinking about the concept. I picture them keeping the soul in a pocketwatch.

>>55328826
>meh
How so?

>>55329662

Wizard.

>>55329662
BIG DICK BARBARIAN

>>55329614
Monks could maybe use a d10 hit die, and anyone who doesn't make darts (and maybe even blowguns) monk weapons is soft in the head

>>55329638
Rogue?

>>55329614
Wot4E monk

What are some good uses of thief's fast hands ability?

>>55329515
kakyoin... mystic? enchanter
iggy... conjurer?

>>55325848

> V.human Arcane domain cleric
>shillelagh from magic initiate
>quarterstaff as druidic focus, shield with holy symbol
>green flame blade from wizard to cleric cantrips list feature
>Deals 2d8 +2*wisdom modifier on hit to first target, 1d8+2*wisdom modifier to an enemy next to the target once I get potent spellcasting at level 8

Am I a genius or what?

>>55329779
I think he started as an enchanter but multiclassed into mystic when he forgot he could do enchantment stuff

>>55329758
Undoing ladies' buckles

>>55329638
>Rogue
Fine as it is.
>Warlock
Also fine, if you understand the point of the class and don't think it's a wizard substitute.

>>55329785
You still need a hand free to do spellcasting gestures if you don't have Warcaster. It doesn't matter if your symbol is on your shield.

>>55329785
Pretty sure you can only have either of those active at a time.

>>55329806
Shilelagh isn't concentration

>>55329798

"If a spell has a material component, you need to handle that component when you cast the spell (PH, 203). The same rule applies if you’re using a spellcasting focus as the material component.
If a spell has a somatic component, you can use the hand that performs the somatic component to also handle the material component. For example, a wizard who uses an orb as a spellcasting focus could hold a quarterstaff in one hand and the orb in the other, and he could cast lightning bolt by using the orb as the spell’s material component and the orb hand to perform the spell’s somatic component."

>>55329806

Nope, neither of those spells are concentration

>>55329758
Force Feed your allies healer's kits and potions. Throwing caltrops around, nicking items off unsuspecting mooks/

>>55329824
Arcane foci are their own items, they are not shields, they are not quarterstaves, they do not have AC bonuses or weapon dice. You can have an arcane focus that is a staff, but that will not make it a quarterstaff in addition to being your focus, you can have a shield that is a holy symbol, but if you do it won't give you any AC. You can't just game the system by saying your arcane focus is a weapon.

>>55329820
>>55329824
Huh, neat.

>>55329857
You can have an arcane focus that is a staff, but that will not make it a quarterstaff in addition to being your focus
Pretty sure Mearls or Crawford said otherwise
>you can have a shield that is a holy symbol, but if you do it won't give you any AC
What.

Is there anything equivalent to like a blinding powder in 5E?

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>>55329857

>>55329857

>but if you do it won't give you any AC

Wrong.

> they are not quarterstaves

wrong

https://twitter.com/GamerJosh/status/509454115861434368

>>55329894
There's the Dust of Sneezing and Choking in the DMG. You could easily alter that to do what you want

>>55325925
it'd be great if you could upload the first chapter!

>>55329949
>filename

What feats give +1 dex?

>>55329964
I hate being mobile. What it say?

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>>55329949

>>55329981
>Catgirls.pdf

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Just happened upon this pic on my folder, had a laugh. Thought I'd share it.

What would you consider the best "dominator"/enchanter type character. One that can mind control, manipulate, etc. other creatures.

Don't worry, not planning on ever doing such a thing to other party members. But I enjoy this archetype a lot in other games.

Lore bard seems like a decent choice.
Archfey warlock is cool but seems more damage focused since I'll mostly EB turret. Although, friends + mask of many faces could be fun to abuse.
Knowledge cleric certainly seems mind controlly.

Favorites? Anything interesting to try?

>>55329949
>Q: Where are the cat boys?
>A: I don’t follow.

Incredible

>>55329990
lol so funny and random and hilarious lol

>>55329857
How does it feel to be retarded, anon?

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>>55329990
PUNCHES FROM THE PUNCH DIMENSION

>>55330030
rude :(

>>55330018
You are not yet familiar with the cat girl pdf? Oh man, good for you. You got to see something new today.

>>55330062
Does it always have that same cover page, or is it a different bamboozle every time

>>55330038
>21:31:53
>>55330053
>21:32:55
If you're going to samefag, at least learn to do it with finesse.

>>55330074
I've only ever seen the basic document, typically as a spoiler. This is the first time I've seen a cover page bamboozle (which is slightly ruined by the file name).
Wait, am I breaking 4chan rules by explaining this instead of telling you to lurk moar? My bad...

Samurai or Eldritch Knight Hobgoblin?

>>55330107
>Not being a Battlemaster epic strategist

>>55330107

Samurai's been shit in every edition it has been in, so without knowing much about it, I'd say EK, they're confirmed good.

Or just play an Avatar Mystic so you can do auras and other group benefits.

>>55330062
>You are not yet familiar with the cat girl pdf?
No.
I like it

>>Languages.
>Cat girls know English, which is the only language anyone needs
Did Winston Churchill author this?

Would a two-handed (magic) finesse weapon be completely busted because of Sneak Attack?

>>55330173
Not if it did 1d4 damage. Context is everything.

>>55330233
I was thinking more like 1d10.

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>>55330173

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>>55330075
i was taking a shit so I only saw your worthless post now
stop being a paranoid fag m8

>>55330253
If you allow them to reroll the damage dice as with great weapon fighting style, then it could potentially very strong, yes.
The damage die of the weapon itself doesn't actually matter that much >>55330233
The sneak attack is the issue.

Most fun cleric archetype?

>>55330253
It'd be 1 more damage for the Arcane Trickster attack one time, Booming Blade, Disengage build, and still less damage compared to dual wielding for normal rogues. Without heavy it can't be used for Great Weapon Master, so it's hard to abuse outside of Great Weapon Fighting which could let you incrementally gain more and more damage on sneak attacks as you gain more dice, but also require at least 1 level of multiclass.

>>55330148
Samurai's level 3 feature is using a bonus action to gain advantage on attacks and resistance to bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing damage until the end of your next turn. You can use it 3 times a short rest.
Level 7 feature is RP stuff giving you a bonus from WIS in checks to persuade or please a noble or person of high stature.
Level 10 is gaining proficiency in WIS saves, or INT or CHA if you already have WIS save proficiency.
15 allows you to give up advantage on an attack if you had it in exchange for using a bonus action to immediately attack that target again.
Capstone allows you to take a bonus turn if you get reduced to 0 HP before going unconcious once per long rest.

It's some good shit, and it fits with their martial ordering and now vaguely Eastern style.
I already have a few Mystics anyhow.
>>55330134
Not my sorta thing. It's just personal issues, I don't care for Battlemasters too much.

>>55330299
Theurge.

Toying with wielding a warhammer instead of a greatsword as a Goliath Barbearian, is it going to be a detriment enough to worry about or am I fine?

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>>55330275
>"I was taking a shit"
>"It took me 20 minutes to fake a screencap"

>>55330338
With a warhammer you can wear a shield for that +2 AC, making you even more of a godly damage sponge. Plus Shield Master is a solid feat option.

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I thought the "player characters as lycanthropes" box in the Monster Manual would make a PC wayyy overpowered, so I reworked it into this.

Yea/nay?

The "Bark At The Moon" part is just so I can fuck with the group every so often.

"You've all infiltrated the glamorous ball and disguised yourselves as nobles so that you may attempt to glean information whilst hob-nobbing with — oh wait, Gunther falls to the floor and starts panting. Roll Constitution saving throw."

>>55330358
transformation only lasts 1 minute? thats pretty shitty. I get why you did it, but there are other ways to balance it. make it 8 hours with no option to revert back. Sure you get a massive boost in combats, but you're going to have problems dealing with the local villagers, who are going to report that your party is palling around with a monster in the woods. If you kill them, now there's a hunt for the wandering monsters on the loose. etc. etc. etc. RP solves 9/10s of all balance issues.

>>55330275
>>55330343
Yo could you two quit 'spergin out over this? Nobody fucking cares.

>>55330338
>>55330353

And it's versatile, so if you don't need your shield at the moment you can still choke up on that bastard and thwack away for 1d10.

>>55330404
plot twist, it's a same fag arguing with himself about same fagging

>>55330353
I completely forgot about the shield master feat

>>55330412
I thought of that but my issue is the way it looks in my head. I want to be smacking bitches with one hand because reasons, I can't really explain it, it just looks cooler in my head.

>Thief Rogue is finally almost 11
Should I keep going Rogue or multiclass something? The only real thing I was after from Rogue was Reliable Talent, and I never actually expected to get to 11 (Been playing since level 1 for like a full year)

>>55330358
Do you have an explanation for why wild werewolves are immune to nonsilvered but PC werewolves only have resist?

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>>55330418

So I was thinking I'd like to play an unarmored swordsman.

What if you literally took a fighter archetype and replaced the lvl 3 feature with:
- Unarmored defense (no shields either) 10+Dex+Wis
- When using a melee weapon that is not heavy or special, can use Dexterity

How would the balance match up with the official archetypes?

>>55330418
That would be a whole new level of sad.

>>55330452
Just play a Monk and use a sword

>>55330438
Bruh, level 13 is the Thief's best ability, stick it out

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>>55330418
That would be some next-level shit right there

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>>55330343
>tfw editing in real time

>>55330452
Why not kensei monk at that point?

>>55330438
If you multiclass perhaps take something with access to booming blade.
Booming blade + sneak attack, then disengaging is some shit

>>55330464
Nah, I just used F12. It's a habit from when I was a web developer.

>>55330462
Yeah I was considering getting to 14 then doing something with Darkness or some other obscuring ability.

>>55330477
Warlock would be a good choice since I have high CHA

>>55330452
Kensei Monk, bruh. MAYBE with a 1-level dip of Fighter for a fightign style.

>>55330490
Yeah and warlock is really front loaded so you could do some real shit with that.
Plus, take friends and disguise self for when you truly want to ninja vanish in plain sight.

>>55330464
>Kamen Rider
Those fags need to get off my board.
They would be the type of people that would bother making a clip like this.

>>55330319
>samurai
That seems pretty neat for a role play-heavy game.

>>55330399
I only made it last one minute because I was trying to copy over the Protector Aasimar bonus where you sprout wings and deal extra radiant damage.

>>55330443
I'm not above hand-waving it as some kind of conflict with the PC's blood or something. Let's him keep his alignment, whereas wild werewolves have to become chaotic evil.

>>55330458
>>55330472
>>55330498
I know, I know, that's my current option, but for some reason the monk abilities are chafing with me. Silly to be constantly punching and kicking between sword strikes. And only being able to use my longsword at lvl 3?

>>55330553
So refluff them as pommel bashes or something and use a shortsword until then

>>55330553
Non-revised Kensei allows you to use any weapon, even a greatsword or maul, it just sacrifices some things and is dumb with being deliberate about "Kensei weapons are not monk weapons", but if you don't wanna punch and shit it's probably not that big a deal.
Talk your idea out with your DM.

>>55330553
bruh, punching during a sword fight is absolutely a thing.

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>>55330093
Here's a bonus bamboozle for your trouble

please appreciate the time it took because adobe software is fucking awful.

my recommendation is that you do not use adobe products unless you have a pressing need

>>55330553
>Silly to be constantly punching and kicking between sword strikes
??

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>>55330553
>Silly to be constantly punching and kicking between sword strikes
>Silly to be doing the exact thing to do between sword strikes

>>55330358
This mostly seems like downsides. +1 str for sometimes taking double damage and running rampant? I guess if you want to encourage your players to avoid becoming one this is a way to do it

>>55330606
If we're being top meme masters,
>being a swordsman who knows what he's doing
>being in range to actually punch or kick between THRUST THRUST THRUST THRUST THRUST THRUST

>>55330644
despite what those pills claim, you'll always be within punching distance while you are thrusting.

>>55330606
You DO NOT kick and punch between sword strikes. Their effective range is nothing alike. If you can slash with a sword, you're too far to punch (or even kick); if you're close enough to punch, you're too close to slash.
I know it seems to make sense, but in reality it doesn't.

>>55330666
>punching when a pommel can end your foe rightly