Warhamer 40k General /40kg/

Does anyone have the "ALL SMILES" pox Walker pic?

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Post Squigs!!

>>55310799
Put a little tiny propeller on the rightmost one

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*raucous cackling*

>Even GW forgets about the Necrons sometimes
(WD doesn't mention them when talking faction themes)
What went wrong with the Necrons?

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>>55311172

Continued from last thread. 6/17

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>>55311201
7/17 Unholy numbers represent...

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>>55311068
Oh nice idea!!

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>>55311212
8/17

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>>55311225
9/17

>>55311196
They were a mini faction based on a pre-internet meme that they tried to expand into a faction proper.

With Strike from the Shadows for Raven Guard, does each unit you infiltrate still count towards how many units you've dropped for figuring out who finished deploying their guys first?

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>>55311233
10/17

>>55310700
I love old art like this. Also checked.

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>>55311277
11/17

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>>55311293

>>55311160
Delete this spooky nightmare.
>>55311196
I think their lore development over the years has ruined some things. Or you know we wuz kangz in space isn't cool. Who knows?

>>55311248
It seems to follow all the same rules for deep strike but just costs CP, so I'd say yes.

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>>55311311
13/17

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>>55311329
14/17

If I wanted to use chaos termies in a fluffy-but-competent IW army, should I run them all combi plasma or like 3 plas and 2 melta with powerfists as well? Would I be gimping myself if I mix like that and should just use other things for dedicated anti armor? They'd be accompanied by a termie lord.

>>55311239
What a terrible meme it must've been

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>>55311342
15/17

Whats a good book to start on? I was going to do the eye of terra set but I honestly dont know and thats why I havent started until now.

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>>55311356
16/17

>>55311369
The rule book.

>>55311369
Warden of the Blade
It's fairly short.
Crow is cool.

Purifiers still only have 1A

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>>55311376
17/17

Last post.

And to people bitching. This is easy and alot less stress on all parties to read something.

I am posting this once as a gift, you dont want it always remember... Grandfather gives is ultimate gift to all....

And that gift is despair.......

>>55311417
>post ends in 7
Dang.

>alot

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>>55310700

[childish shooty noises]

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I bought a bunch of dangles in 6e out of excitement for their creepy imperium-as-the-bad-guy aesthetic and weird wargear options like the porta-rack. Abandoned the project in 7e due to going mostly into ravenwing and watching it turn into unpleasant to fight cheese.

Recently painted up Cypher and restored some busted old csm as black legion from a friend's pile of trash, and between that and all these unused dangles/unbuilt dangles I'm kinda thinking it would be fun to make a combined force of cypher-lead fallen that's grouped up with a black legion warband for strength/safety.

Was kinda thinking something like this:

Vanguard detachment
Cypher (owned)
6xFallen (can build) with plasmaguns, missile launcher, and combi plasma/power sword champion
6xFallen (can build) with plasmaguns, missile launcher, and combi plasma/power sword champion
BL 5xTerminators - Combi bolters and power axes

Outrider Detachment
BL Chaos Terminator Lord - Murder Sword and combi flamer
BL 5xRaptors with 2x Meltaguns and champion with plasma pistol and power fist (built) MoS
BL 5xRaptors with 2x Meltaguns and champion with plasma pistol and power sword (built) MoS
3xChaos Bikers with 2x Plasma Guns and 1x Power maul (would build from ravenwing)

And add this forgefiend with autocannons and ectoplasma cannon I have painted on whichever as HS. That's about 1350 ish points, and I guess I could fill up to 1500 with a sorcerer and some cultists at the rear.

Does this sound okay as a list to paint/purchase towards? I haven't really played as chaos before.

>>55311438
>pewpewpew
>BRRRRRRRRRRT
>VROOMVROOM

>KABOOM

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Did the Tyrannofex and Exocrine ever stop being shit?

>>55311417
>This is easy and alot less stress on all parties to read something.

How is it easier than a pdf or epub? You wasted time and posts to accomplish an inferior solution to a problem that didn't exist.

>>55311462

Even now, my favorite game is still setting up little army men, making shooty noises to myself, and pretending they are fighting

>>55311417
What is this?

>>55311482
Nurgle rotted his pea brain

>>55311490
Idiocy on display.

>>55311467
Exocrine yes, Tyrannofex actually got worse.

Both are still overpriced in points, the tyrannofex hilariously so, but the exocrine is actually worth using.

>>55311417
thanks for the read, anon.

>>55311490
It's ashort story about Mortarion.

People are complaining cause it wasn't uploaded to a pdf format. Follow linked posts and it is all there though.

>>55311438
I wish they made the double tread tanks bigger or something. They look super wonky.

>>55311507
Begrudgingly, I have to agree about the Tyrannofex. Between poor BS and low shot count with it's premiere anti-tank gun, short range anti-infantry weapons that force you to move on a model that benefits from not moving, it's just not very good. Impressive to look at, but not very good. I still like fielding it sometimes though, just for aesthetic reasons.

Exocrine is amazing. Like a better version of the thing it was 7th, but now actually dangerous to most things you point it at.

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So I've been working on some Minotaurs chads, and I've been thinking - how different do you think their organization would be, considering their technological surplus? I figure they'll have a greater preponderance of rarer vehicles and equipment, but what about at a squad level? The Badab FW book has some good info, but not nearly enough for me to decide how to build these guys up, especially with the addition of Primaris and their assorted equipment.

Which chaos legion is objectively the best out've all of them?

>>55311545
Calling the rupture cannon a "premiere anti-tank gun" is a funny joke. You would be better off with a lascannon.

>>55311596
He did specify
>it's premiere anti-tank gun

Not THE anti-tank gun
what're its stats?

>>55311579
>chain spears
BRILLIANT

>>55311596
That's what it's supposed to be used for, but not exactly what it's good at. Turns out it's usually not good at anything, and that makes me sad. I just want the giant dick cannon to fuck something up other than my low expectations.

Wait, when are the new DG models besides Morty going on pre-order?

>>55311579

Looking good, anon.

I'm not an expert on their lore, but from what I remember Minos are the High Lord's go-to chapter when an Astartes chapter gets out of line, right? I'd focus on anti-marine loadouts, since that is what they are employed for. Anything that seriously negates power armor's save to reflect their preferred enemy.

>>55311582
Thousand Sons. Aesthetically superior and actually gets out and does things.

>>55311641
From the 23rd onward.

>>55311641
They'll be added, a few units each week, over the next few weeks. They released Primaris the same way.

>>55311624
Heavy 2 S10 AP-2 D2

If both shots hit, it goes to AP-4 D6 (it should've been this from the start)

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>>55311624
On a BS4+ unit in an army that can't get any re-rolls or bonuses to hit.

>>55311672
So if you roll above average to hit, your damage becomes average?

What the actual fuck

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Do we have the lore behind this picture yet?

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A second stormtalon with lascannons or a stormhawk with typhoon missile launcher and las talon?

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I love him.

>>55311704
Even chaos marines despise xenos.

>>55311722
Anyone put one of those blushing anime faces or the one with the open mouth on it yet?

>>55311690
Tyranid ranged weapons in general have a problem with being designed nonsensically. Venom cannons and Heavy Venom cannons have had a "what the fuck is this even for?" issue since 5th edition and are subsequently never used even though loads of units have access to them.

>>55311704
Morty heard the Tau talking shit

>>55311524
Does it feature him not being a little bitch who literally nobody respects, for once?

>>55311690
Yeah.....the more things change the more they stay the same. Neat model though. Pay more for a 6 pack of Hiveguard with Impaler Cannons and you get better results but less giant monsters.

Huh, and the Fex can fire twice if it doesn't move. Pretty big thing there.
It also has relentless natively.

>>55311722
I think this is going to be sleeper hit from the DG codex desu

>>55311745
I think plenty of people are going to respect him on the tabletop. As for fluff, he always came off as the begrudging primarch and later daemon prince, to me.

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Are Armored/Scout Sentinels good units or are they just useful to fill Fast Attack slots?

>>55311704
No, but I'm gonna bet it's something to do with the 4th Sphere Expansion. I'm not sure what sept those colors are, though, and after all the DG are going to Ultramar and T'au territory isn't far, relatively speaking, so regular T'au Empire forces scrapping with the Death Guard isn't unthinkable.

>>55311769
>I think plenty of people are going to respect him on the tabletop
Of course they will, he's a Primarch™. They're not allowed not to be the strongest thing on the tabletop.

>>55311722
adorable

>>55311771
Ive heard theyre one of the best units for the points in the IG dex, especially for area denial and drawing more fire than they are worth

>>55311771
They are good units because they are cheap enough to be expendable and killy enough to not be ignored and achieve shit. Do not expect miracles out of them and field them in numbers, they are the conscripts of vehicles in that their cheapness is their strength.

>>55311751
Yes, but its cheapest loadout is 225 points with short ranged weapons on a unit that moves 6" and benefits from not moving. It's total trash.

>>55311731
Chaos marines are the only ones with a winning record against the tau IIRC. They got BTFO several times in the daemonkin codex in ways that don't even make sense

>>55311771
Scout Sentinels with Flamers look good on paper.
I wouldn't bother using them any other way.

Explaining the chaos power rankings from last thread.
1) Tzeentch. Actual Chaos. A Saturday morning cartoon villain, sure, but this is 40k. Bird motif, 2 heads, sacred number 9, all very alien and chaotic.
2) Slaanesh. Excess, lust and extravagance are all good 40k evils. Becoming numb to them as a worshipper is some of the best grimdark in the setting.
3) Nurgle. One trick pony revolving around pestilence. The models are alright, but all homogenized, Sort of bland and one dimensional, but not as bad as
4) Khorne. The traditional western style of daemons are really cool in AoS, but seem out of place beside space armor. Also entirely 2 dimensional. Kill kill kill.
5)Undivided. At least pick a flavor.
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>tyranids can adapt to nurgle diseases
>somehow lose to the DG because they made a planet too toxic
This makes no fucking sense

>>55311771
don't expect them to do much, but they're cheap. Toss on lascannons and keep them out of range of heavy bolters

>>55311771

salamander scout vehicles are better

>>55311831
It is the DG Codex and they are the hot new models. Of course NPCs are gonna job hard here, even if it makes no sense.
Gonna make some Necrons died from super flu somehow too

>>55311796
Sounds like T'au outside their own fluff. In anyone else's they're cannon fodder.

>>55311831
Tyranids being able to adapt to literal daemonic diseases makes no sense either to be fair.

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>>55311745
It actually shows him as maybe the most sane, logical Primarch that ever existed.

Truthfully, the only way people who could hate on him so much are those who read a piece of lore and took something from it personally. Or, more likely, they are the type of person who goes out and buys 3 Primaris repulsor tanks without care or interest in the actual model.

Oh and Grey knight players, alot on here, hate the shit out of him cause the was the best part of heir dedicated Audio-drama.

>>55311704
Everyone hates the Tau.

>>55311824
I'd put Undivided higher on the list, just for the potential for some traditional evil anarchy/glory-seeking with Tzeentch's 'All is flame/chance' nonsense: pure ambition.
Futility and nihilism are also hallmarks of Nurgle, though it honestly doesn't add much.

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>>55311843
>>killing a tomb world with a mass outbreak of robo-bonitis

>>55311843
After Lucius possessing a Necron I'm willing to expect any level of retardation from new fluff.

>>55311771
Think beefier HWT for the Armored variant and you've a good idea of how to use them. Doubly so since if you take Lascannons (you madman) people get anal about wanting to murder them for some insane reason. Oddly, they can hold their own in melee against some units and just keep em bogged down for quite a while if the opponent is stubborn enough to just not leave combat.

>>55311859
>It actually shows him as maybe the most sane, logical Primarch that ever existed.
>Its not sorcery because reasons XD
Na.

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>>55311417
Thanks for making me know what my next army I'm now going to be buying is anon

>>55311859
Man , the perspective in that pick is sorta fucked. His scythe looks like an axe.

And I would think GK players love him, since he got to job to their Sue-in-chief and all.

>>55311792
30 dollars a model makes fielding these in large numbers a wallet killer though. Games Workshop should sell a 3
model kit like they do Killa Kans.

>>55311859
Why does Morty hate the Emperor so much, anyways? I don't think I ever actually learned why, which always makes him seem like the most asshole-ish.

>>55311872
>Futility and nihilism are also hallmarks of Nurgle
But also at odds with spreading all of Papa Nurgle's gifts. It's not like they catch space aids and give up on life. They're like the bug chasers in the gay community trying to catch every type of space aids and give that blessing to others. Also people try to portray him as more caring and benevolent than the other chaos gods which is kind of boring

>>55311874
He did what now?
>>55311910
Because Emps killed his foster dad when he wanted to do it. After that Morty's only friends were Horus and Cruze.

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>>55311929
The fact that there are essentially Nurgle cults irl disgusts and terrifies me.

>>55311929
Nurgle's followers think he's caring.
>He loves me so much that his new Bubonic dick rot plague makes the chronic appendix regeneration and explosion he gave me hurt less

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>>55311732

>>55311910
Because the Emperor condones psykers.
Because the Emperor took him away from his life on Barbarus
Because the way the Emperor did that was by saving Mortarion's life, forcing Mortarion to pledge loyality to him

>>55311885
>It is not sane to refute something.......

Then half of the /tg/ is insane....... wait not best example :P

The absurd detail and messiness of the DG models makes me not want then.
I can't imagine trying to build/paint all that decently. I'd hate myself.
I'll just pass on collecting any of them.

Anyone else on that page?

>>55311939
>He did what now?
In the CSM codex there's a snippet about a Necron cutting down Lucius and feeling "a cold satisfaction" or something. So naturally Lucius does his thing and chestbursts him.

You know. A Necron.

The dudes made of metal.

>>55311978
No.

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>>55311975
Emps just wanted him to be in the family business. Mort hates mom and pop shops.
>>55311984
You must be joking. I don't know if that mental image should offend me through its stupidity or make me laugh.

>>55311978
It's Nurgle though. You can mess up a bit, not paint all the details, but as long as you apply liberal amounts of washes it still looks fine and fitting.

>>55311971
Disgustingly Lewd

>>55311910
>>55311939

He didnt kill his foster dad, he swept him away before he could land the killing blow so foster dad escaped.

KS pretty much. He has the mentality of a 12 year old but it is all still valid. Only trolls and wall-hackers hate him.

>>55312015
>Local Necron who thought he had no more soul left to lose finds out he lost more soul.

>>55312015
A Tau pilot made a Necron pilot feel pride and the thrill of a dog fight again, before being blown up by said Tau

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>>55312015
Straight from the horse's mouth.

>>55311954
It's definitely one of the communities in the world I understand the least.
I think there are irl cults of facets of other gods. The thrill seekers that do dumb life endangering shit, the speed freaks, the sex addicts all belong to Slaanesh. Wannabe witch Wiccan people, corrupt politicians other schemers would find Tzeentch. Khorne would just have violent extremists like ISIS.

>>55312056
"Ok."

>>55312047
>>55311984
Wow, sucks to be playing them.
NPC
Necron Playing Chump

>>55311975
>>55311939
"I hate that you're a psyker and like psykers, dad!" - The man whose best m8 is a psyker and has a legion full of fucking psykers.

"I hate you for killing the guy who imprisoned and tortured me before he could kill me!" - The man who was too weak to kill his enslaver on his own.

"I hate you for forcing me to serve you, dad!" - The man who happily serves Nurgle, the god that forced him to serve him.

So what's left? He's a giant hypocrite and he's really, REALLY homesick? Yeah, Mortarion is kind of an asshole.

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>>55311831
>can adapt to some random nurgle disease with enough time
>can adapt just as fast from a full onslaught from the lord of plagues going all out
Can you adapt to all the strains of the flu/cold/stds at the same time too, anon?

>>55312054

See: >>55311854. The disparity in the portrayal of T'au between their fluff and others' really is something else.

>>55311984
>Warlord Titan steps on Lucius
>Machinespirit runs satisfaction.exe
>Lucius chestbursts from Warlord Titan
>Falls to his death because of the height

>Captcha is select images with cheetahs
Appears I have Cheetahfag's blessing

>>55311722
Newrgle Helbrute?

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>>55312067
Morts whole shtick is the endless contradictions

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>trying to order pic related off FW site
>paying full price like good goy, not going chinaman
>filling out delivery info
>there is no United States option in the country field
>US Virgin Islands
>US minor outlying territories
>no US, no USA, no United States
>also, no United Kingdom

I must be retarded. There is no way this is a real problem.

>>55312075
Par for the course. Your codex versus appearances in other codices.
I imagine Necrons won't be jobbing to Chaos in their book for example unlike the example above. And Nids will chase off some Chaos armies in theirs etc

>>55312056
That's fucking cool.

>>55312067
Considering Mortarion has been living in and breathing an atmosphere so toxic it kills humans within seconds and dissolves filters and metal armour, it's a miracle Mortarion can think at all.

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>>55312031
Ah.
>>55312047
Kek!
>>55312054
I remember that.
>>55312056
That is so stupid only Polish qts can ease my suffering.

>>55312097
Did you choose delivering to US when picking your store region?

>>55312129

Ah yes, I didn't even realize that was a thing. See? I was retarded all along. Thanks, anon.

>>55312111
If you think that is stupid you should read Black Crusade, where Khârn 1v1's a reaver titan.

>go to new FLGS
>cute halfway passing MtF plays there.
>(s)he plays emperor's children and Slaanesh daemons.

Is this a thing? Did I just hit stereotypes lottery?

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>>55312110
>>3 to the 7 to the 7 to the 3
>>I like good poxes as they rot up trees
>>Smoked so much weed, ya wouldn't believe
>> I eat my meals off a toilet seat

>>55312158
To be fair he could 1v1 a knight in 7th if he rolled well enough. He wouldn't survive the explosion but still.

>>55312081
>Lucius chestbursts out of the force of gravity itself

>>55312158
how?

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>>55312097

>>55312163
Surely as tyranid girl, dark eldar freak girl, military veteran guardsman, and whiny babby space marine

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>>55310700
This meltaman is really quite nice, but man alive 50 maplebacks for three models? That aren't even like OP heroes or anything?

Madness!

>>55312067
Such a complicated guy.

>>55312158
Wut

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>>55312067
>too autistic to see the nuance and contradictions of human emotion
The Emperor said hed let Morty try and kill the stepdad, let him fail, then gg-ez'd the guy and held Mortarion to his oaths to serve in the Great Crusade, so the relationship was grudging from the start.

Mortarion's bit was always liberating the little folk from oppression, and in that the Emperor stole his glory like it was nothing, so it's not a big surprise he would turn away and fight the Emperor the first chance he got. Its why he refuses to submit fully to nurgle, after all he was trucken into nurgles service, and its also why he hasnt seen his full potential of power. Hes too headstrong for his own good and holds grudges.

>>55312201
For you

>>55312215
GEE Mort, how come Papa N lets you have two scythes?

>>55312195
Girls play nids?

Only ones I knew in the hobby played orks, blood angels, Eldar and 2 tau

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>>55312199
Still not quite as egregious as 35 burgerbucks for one alternative squad leader that's slightly less dynamic than either of the snap fit sergeants or a multi part kit sergeant.

>>55312215
I want to see him toting 2 Lanterns.

>>55312097
>paying triple
Wew

>>55312241
But anon look how long his purity seal is, that's worth at least an extra 20 burgerbucks

>>55312241
Is that the official art on that? There are fucking finger prints in the paint.

>>55312241
>Most standard pose ever

I dread the day I run into somebody who actually bought this guy, for I fear I will be unable to stop laughing and pointing at that person...

>>55312258
Someone bought it at my flgs. I don't know why. He didn't know why.

>>55312248
>WHO WOULD WIN, MORTAATROM OR RIONNOIR

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>>55312199
I'm mad about the mirrored poses and reused parts too.

>>55312199
It's a weird "collector's" thing. Not a normal release.

>>55312285
It's not as bad as that one AOS dwarf that's literally mirrored down the middle at least.

>>55312285
Eh. Not bad enough to get mad at.

>>55312215

>The Emperor said hed let Morty try and kill the stepdad, let him fail, then gg-ez'd the guy and held Mortarion to his oaths to serve in the Great Crusade, so the relationship was grudging from the start.

>Emperor 100% keeps his word, does not deceive Mortarion in any way
>It's the Emperor's fault Mortarion was too weak to kill his dad in law

From a rational perspective what was the Emperor supposed to do? "Okay so you failed to beat him this time so I'll wait twenty years for you to train in the hyperbolic time chamber, maybe you'll beat em next time".

Mortarion always had one of the weakest casus beli for turning traitor. "Sticking up for the little guy" doesn't even make sense you consider who he allies with. All the most tyrannical and deranged Primarchs we're on Horus" side. Did he assume that the likes of Angron, Curze and Perturabo would be more just and liberal rulers then Dorn, Guilliman, Sanguinus etc?

>>55312252
>>55312256
>>55312258
Yeah I don't fucking get it either. Maybe they forgot about the whole 30th anniversary thing and just threw this together during a lunch break.

>>55312318
I expected a marine of some sort for the thirtieth anniversary, but I figured they'd do a modern resculpt of an old favorite like the Imperial Space Marine or Slambo or something.

>>55312310
But that's also part of what is suppose to make him a tragic figure. In the end, through being tricked and forced into an impossible decision, Mortarion became exactly what he hated.

It was pretty awesome lore, until BL decided Mortarion should hate the Emperor for ... no reason really.

>>55312294
Yeah, but at least in the past, they used to at least make the collectors models a character of SOME type to justify them being sold on their own.

This is like, half a minimum fucking Plague Marine squad. At the price of a squad of 10.

Ultimately, what stops Mortarion from being a more cool character is just that there's very little written from his perspective, or that of the Death Guard in general really.

Pretty much all other traitor Primarchs have had their backstories explored and their character arcs made more understandable, if not outright sympathetic.

AFAIK there's no novels exploring with more depth Mortarions backstory or how he interacted with his Legion and his brothers during the Crusade, how he and Horus became close. Just read False Gods and there Horus names him as one of his "true brothers", those who where truly sincere in their support to his elevation to Warmaster.

As of right now, all we really know of Mortarion is that he hates psykers, resents the Emperor for killstealing him, and liked Horus.

That's his entire motivation for going Traitor, and of course it's going to feel flimsy and thin compared to many of the other traitors.

>>55312353
Turns out worship and service to the God of Decay rots the mind as well as the body.

>>55312361
It comes with Blanche scribbles.

Consume, goy.

>>55312352
The only anniversary model I would buy is a resculpt of that marine listening to the whispers of his ammo clip.

What Primaris units shore up Deathwatchs weaknesses best?

>>55312199
They are named character for a upcoming DG focused novel.

People who havnt figured this out yet have brains rotted by plague man. I swear...

And screencap this cause i am dropping something that I shouldn't be said for another two weeks. Don't ask how i know.

>>55312376
Gibe admech news/rumors

>>55312373
Conscripts and lascannon predators.

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>>55312352
It really is triumphantly bad. How hard would it have been to do a Marine using an Ork head as a club?

>>55312399
Two new units before Christmas or pushed to begin/mid of Jan.

>>55312401
:^)
^
)

>>55312423
Flyer and bigger bots right?
FUCK YEAH AWWWWW RIGHT

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>>55312352
Or an early style Chaos Marine to be the evil version of the Imperial Space Marine?

>>55312399
Will AdMech get codex articles after this weekend? Death Guard have gone on pre-order so what's left for GW to cover?

>>55312376
>>55312423

Nope. No Admech models, they would've launched with Codex

>>55312450
Would be the perfect opportunity to give the new exalted champion unit a model.

>>55312409
they already did that though five years ago - they could have done it again with a primaris though, that would have been fun.

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>>55312352
Or a weird 40K human.

That Inquisitor in the middle, for instance. Power Armour and a bolter! Practically a Space Marine! Would have tied in nicely to the Grey Knights codex!

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>when you get the poses just right

>>55312470
Please keep posting old 40k pics. A lot of these models and paint jobs are genuinely interesting.

>>55312453
Maybe? Admech preorder next saturday

>>55312376
Will the Tau codex be out in the first half of 2018?

>>55312470
But anon, inquisitor's can't have power armor! Only Inquisitor Greyfax (tm) and Inquisitor Coteaz (r) have power armor (c) as wargear!

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Was it autism?

>>55312470
>Plunderino Pete

These are fucking amazing

>>55312480
Where'd you get that two-handed sword bit? I'm gonna build a custom exalted champion soon and want to give him a two hander.

>>55312499
I think Erebus claimed it was pride.

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>>55310799
Are bomb squigs good this edition? I saw them in a battle report once and they seemed to do some decent damage. Also only squig image on my computer I could find, he's on the Mek's back.

>>55312504
>Plunderino Pete
>Not Space-Dout Sam

It was a different time, but your lack of taste is timeless.

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>>55312513
Deathwing Command Squad

>>55312513
Deathwing termie/command squad

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Acquired a shitload of Mk IV Legion armor and all sorts of weapons dirt cheap. Dubs decides my chapter or legion.

>>55312489

Pretty sure just about all the codexes will out after 1st half 2018

>>55312188
>>55312214
He 1v1s a knight by cutting it's feet off IIRC

He and a bunch of Berserkers jump off a building and cut themselves through the hull of a Titan and kill the crew

>>55312056
What would happen if he went to fight tyranids but ended up getting run over by gaunts who literally cannot feel any sort of pride or satisfaction? Or if he got bombarded by basilisk fire and he artillerymen didn't even know he was on the field to begin with? Surely there must be ways to perma-kill him

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>>55312483
I don't have that many more saved from previous anniversary model bitchfests, but I can grab more from SoL if need be.

What we really need is old White Dwarfs.

>>55312516
Plot twist : the Squig is the Mek

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>>55312535
Thanks m8

does anyone here a have a shot of the points costs of things in the death guard codex? PLEASE LINK IT TO ME!

>>55312453
>>55312486
End of Sept for Admech. Next Three weeks is all DG with potential early releases for others.

>>55312489
It isn't decided yet. If not first half, then beginning of second half. Third fiscal quarter..

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>>55312470
Or stay with me. A chainsaw face.

>>55312499
No, demonic possession.

>>55312353

He was never tricked. Everyone knew before the GC even ended that Curze, Perturabo, Angron etc were monsters. That it never once gave him pause, seeing that all the psychopaths were on his team, that the people on his team were openly worshipping entities unironically called "the Dark Gods" and "the Primordial Annihilator", says alot about his character. It says that he isn't tragic, just dumb.

>>55312364
His reason is actually one of the more appropriate reasons. He hated tyrants, and came to see the Emperor as a tyrant. He was like a member of Antifa who found out his dad wasn't #HeforShe

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>>55312483

>>55312537
Your favorite.

>>55312548
Is that one Eldar holding a harp ??

And is that one on the bottom row holding a shuriken catapult with a chainsword bayonet ?!

>>55312567
There's a really great scene in Scars where Khan mocks him because he sees through his desperation to have someone who isn't a witch or insane on his team.

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>>55312537
Red Scorpions

>>55312588
I believe it's a lyre

>>55312557
Please reply! Has it shown up anywhere on the web i need to know the points cost changes of plague drones with plague sprayers, Plague marines, poxwalkers, Typhus. Also did typhus lose his stats from the index????

>>55312544
>He 1v1s a knight by cutting it's feet off IIRC
That a little over the top.
>He and a bunch of Berserkers jump off a building and cut themselves through the hull of a Titan and kill the crew
That isn't so over the top.

>>55312537
Hufflepuff

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>>55312537
Vior'la

>>55312600
The titan one is hilarious

there's a small blurb from the princeps perspective as he bitches about the alarm then starts screaming that they're inside the hull before cutting off midsen-

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Out of colour stuff, I think.

>>55312588
Yes, and yes.

40K used to be so Warhammer In Space than units could buy musicians.

And 1E Eldar were more Corsair than Craftworld.

Alia legitimate

>>55312570
So that's why he joined nurgle? To attack trash cans?

>>55312599
Typhus is way better, and nothing has changed points wise that much, only options that can be added will change premades we been dealing with, like Blight drones.

Mini-wargaming on youtube have a vid of the codex up atm and go over everything.

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>>55312537

>>55311325
Going MSU to get all the CP seems to be looking more and more like a mistake now.

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>>55312310
From a third person perspective it seems reasonable to do what the emperor did, but the primarchs bit is that they all have some aspect of humanity turned up to 11, with all the corresponding flaws and irrationality.

If you had one ultimate purpose in life, failed, and then your dad shows up and does it for you super easy and says "lets go homo, time to crusade" would you not be a little salty?

>>55312537
Hammers of Dorn.
>>55312618
Kek

>>55311722
I guess I have to start a DG army now. With the tally man and this adorable thing I have no choice.

>>55312537
Farsight Enclaves

>>55312537
Red Scorpions for glorious mk 4

>>55312195
The only grill at my lgs plays ultramarines.

>>55312640
Rerolling

>>55312537
OC
Completely painted pink and yellow

>>55312537
Memerines

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>>55312669
If only you had suggested EC.

>>55312233
>>55312662
Those are the stereotypes. Results may vary.

>>55312537
The Hanged.

>>55312688
HAH

>>55312623
If he wanted to do that he should've just made for the nearest tomb world.

>>55312537
Destroyers of Spengo

>>55312677
Winner

>>55311711
Is the stormhawk useful for ground attack? The points difference is pretty small, only around 20 depending on your loadouts

>>55312537
The Black Psalm.

>>55311248
Yes.
>>55312635
Command points are good though. Consider building an army without regards to command points and then optimizing that list for them.

>>55312722
Stormhawk is pretty much hyper-specialized towards taking out things with the Fly keyword (hits on a 2+ with the right weapon loadout) Other things it can hit on a 4+ at best.

>>55312547
>Killed by anyone who feels any sense of satisfaction including beep boop satisfaction: Respawns killing them.
>Killed unknowingly/by circumstance: Normal CSM death - soul goes to patron god, respawned after some torture for failure.
>Killed by a virtuous soul that feels no sense of pride in the accomplishment: The one Achilles-heel that would actually perma-kill him. Consider it the loophole in his otherwise OP contract.

>>55312537
You are now Alpharius.

>>55312730
Raven Guard
-Battalion Detachment-
HQ
Primaris Captain: Master-crafted Stalker Bolt Rifle - 92 pts <-Company Master
Primaris Lieutenant: Auto Bolt Rifle - 71 pts

Troops
5 Intercessors: Auto Bolt Rifles, Auxiliary Grenade Launcher - 106 pts
5 Intercessors: Auto Bolt Rifles, Auxiliary Grenade Launcher - 106 pts
5 Scouts: Camo Cloaks, Sniper Rifles - 90 pts

Elites
Primaris Ancient - 69 pts

Fast Attack
3 Inceptors - 180 pts

Heavy Support
5 Hellblasters: Assault Plasma Incinerators - 170 pts
5 Hellblasters - 165 pts <-Infiltrate

-Vanguard Detachment-
HQ
Primaris Lieutenant: The Armour Indomitus, Power Sword - 74 pts <-Infiltrate

Elites
Primaris Apothecary - 68 pts
3 Primaris Aggressors - 129 pts <-Infiltrate
10 Reivers - 180 pts <-Infiltrate

Total - 1500 pts

This is what I'm at right now, but then I realized I have so many drops.

>>55312560
Plastic sisters when?

>>55312744
Alternatively, cut off his limbs and place him in a metal coffin and bury it.

>>55312784
fucking never

dubs for nurgle

>>55312741
yeah, but it's got a lot of guns and shots to mitigate that. I guess the question is do I build what looks cool or do I build what's more useful for a meta where only two other people use flyers, one of whom never shows up and the other of whom doesn't always play with his flyer.
or if I can magnetise everything

>>55312361
run them as characters then

>>55312784
When you get off your ass and buy some pewter ones to show GW there is interest in the army.

>>55312744
>virtuous soul that feels no sense of pride in the accomplishment
Great, so no one?
Maybe Draigo, cause of course it'd be him

NuGW unit names are so incredibly stupid that my brain straight up refuses to waste a single neuron trying to remember them.

>>55312784
Never. 3% of sales don't make companies jump to boost that product.

>>55312795
>"The Sisters of Battle are a perenially popular part of the Warhammer 40,000 universe"

Oh they know.

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>2017
>still no full death guard codex rules leaks
>have to watch mini wank gaming to gleam what i can

sickening :(

>>55312809
C'mon, you don't like the putrid maggot infested blight diseased plague dude?
He's my favourite

>>55312821
Liking fluff and buying models are two different things, and GW only cares about one.

>>55312818
And yet GSC is a thing.

>>55312825
Literally just went on pre-order today. Chill out, just a matter of days

>>55312839
They suck though now

Why the fuck were mortal wounds even put in the game, let alone in such huge numbers.
Like half the new nurgle rules all involve dishing out mortal wounds.
Ruins the game honestly

>>55312461
Aspiring champ took that place.

>>55312839
Half of their model line is an already existing army, that's cheaper to make than a full army of new models in plastic.

>>55312825
>ODing on creatine
I love this meme

Ig stratagems
1 cp
Choose a unit. That unit may benefit from two orders this turn

Tau stratagem
1 to 3 cp
Place 1 to 3 markerlight tokens on a unit.

Skitarii stratagem
1 cp
Can place a skitarii unit in reserve, works just like alpha legion or Raven guard

Nid stratagem
0 cp (yes, zero, it's free)
Only use if you have five spore mine models within 3 inches of a chosen unit. Each of those spore mines detonates. Instead of dealing damage, the chosen unit takes a -1 penalty to toughness, attacks, movement, and WS/bs, until the start of your next turn.

>>55312859
Enjoy anon! You're gonna take those mortal wounds and choke on blight foulplague murk whether or not you like it

>>55312839
Their rules look _fun_. Are they really that bad?

>>55312882
Are you the playtester or some other guy?

>>55312310
>Did he assume that the likes of Angron, Curze and Perturabo would be more just and liberal rulers then Dorn, Guilliman, Sanguinus etc?
No? He just respected Horus more as a leader than he did the Emperor, and thought he'd do a better job as head of state.

His reason for rebelling has always been the simplest and least convoluted. Not motivated by personal hubris or daemonic corruption. It's also why, at least originally, the Death Guard were the only traitor legion who WEREN'T full of chaos shit and had to be tricked into becoming the plague marines.

Black library just keeps on adding bullshit on top of everything, though. Can't believe how terribly the whole heresy's been handled.

>>55312882

What other Codices are soon-ish on the horizon?

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>>55312067

>>55312480
>Chappy
>no skull
>no robes
>no Crozius

Good looking pose though

>>55312839
>Make twenty new models
>Rest of the armies pieces based of one of the most mass produced armies ever

As this >>55312871 anon said, alot easy to do then an entire newly, modeled army.

>>55312859
I'm going to reserve judgement until I see how they perform on the table. But I think the spamming of mortal wounds was to make up for the lack of mobility in the Death Guard army overall. They don't want to repeat the mistake they made with Necrons, and think that durability alone makes up for lack of mobility.

>>55312955
They can fix them in other ways
Give them cheaper and tougher transports or something

Mortal wounds just break the game, and it's the reason elite armies are so ass now compared to conscript spam

>>55312925
Space wolves and orks in q1-2018
Necrons and inquisitors/sisters in q2

>>55311831
If tyranids can be infected and turned to chaos with the obliterator virus (iron warriors omnibus fyi), then Nurgle STDs should work just fine

>>55312992
All these supposed playtesters, hard to keep track.
Another one said Tau before Necrons but kept mum on anything detailed.

>>55312955
So DG are in the Necron niche but do it better?
Makes it seem like marines doing what other factions do but better will be a thing

I want fast nurgle themed armies. Can the death guard do fast?

>>55312859
>>55312955
>>55312978
>Mortal wounds are a way around good armor/invuln combo
>players place less importance on having units with low save/invul
>units with less AP become more valuable
>players place more importance on low save/invul
>more mortal wound causing units chosen
The cycle will probably go on for all of 8th.

>>55311417

I love how you not only don't know how to post a PDF but you also fucked up and had to split it across multiple threads so that no one here even knows what the fuck you're doing.

I've not seen this level of fail in quite some time anon, I thank you.

>>55312978
Perhaps you are right. But this decision seems to have been made with the fluff in mind. I think they wanted Death Guard to be an army that slowly marches up the board in a big blob.

I'm really hoping that it's not game breaking. We will know soon enough. To me, it looks like this Codex is on par with the space marines Codex. So, maybe everyone will get stuff to equal this?

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>>55311438
[Childish chopping noises]

>>55312930
Chapter Master not Chaplain

>>55313033
Interesting internal balance if intentional. Hopefully this won't be fucked up by adding more units with some form of reroll-able fnp saves and ruin that balance.

Tell me why my first 40k army should be your favorite army

>>55313019

>So DG are in the Necron niche but do it better?

Yes. This is an accurate statement. But DG have a Codex and Necrons do not. So, this outcome should be expected.

Also, it's not hard for any army to be better than Necrons right now. Time will tell if this changes.

>>55313115
Or marines will replace all the factions.
EC will be a better DE

>>55313108
Because it is my favorite.

>>55313032
drones, those plaguebearers riding giant mosquitos, and a bunch of bell guys ring a linging plague marines with plague choppas to advance asap to harvest some flesh.

>>55313108
Tell me why it shouldn't be YOUR favorite.

>>55313033
It seems to more be a problem with extremely cheap, spammable psykers being able to hide behind units and utterly punish MSU tactics. Primaris Psykers and Malefics need to be nerfed into the ground.

>>55313108
Are you cool? I don't know if we should share an army unless you're gonna be cool. Prove you're cool.

>>55313115
>>55313127
I wish marine armies would go full small elite army style. That way any other army that does basically what the marine army does will at least be unique in that it will be relatively more model intense.

Plus I think it's good for the hobby if the main army has as few models necessary to play as possible.

>>55313147
Gonna have to nerf conshits into the ground first

>>55313139
Yeah, I do agree that it sucks for armies that can't put down the bodies necessary to deal with the mortal wound spam. For many codexes it's as simple as just bringing a ton of dudes, but for the codexes that don't have that option it must feel near unhandleable.

Do pox walkers cost reinforcement points?

>>55313166
I can't decide what I think is appropriate to do with conscripts yet. The options seem to be:
>comissars kill more than one dude
>don't benefit from orders (or less effective)
>points increase

>>55313185
Could kill half of those who would have retreated, rounded down? Or maybe just make commissars easier to kill?

>>55313147
I don't care how they balance the armies. As long as they get everyone as close to equal as possible.

I am playing what is arguably the worst army in the game currently. I just don't want to end up as Orks and Tyranids did in 7th edition.

>>55312056
>Lucius is slain by an Alpha Legion Lord
>Entire legion becomes Lucius

Crons?

>>55313206
>arguably the worst army in the game currently
Let's hear it. Necrons?

>>55313180
adding models to an existing squad doesn't cost points. Assuming the units ability rules doesn't specify otherwise.

>>55313139
>>some scrub maniac heretic is a deadlier psyker than a grey knight
pretty weird. probably should have just had baby smite with the possibility to become rando strong, or make them more perilous to their allies.

>>55313206
If it aint gsc admech or deathwatch stfu

So people aren't getting Mortarion much now adays so i will break him down easy for all of you.

Mortarion is the most successful primarch of all of the Emperors spawns.

Other then always being personally bested by those he never cared about, he always win.

And that is where is contradiction comes in. He is bitter at the fact that not..a..single...soul can let him try and prove he is a shit head cause everyone comes to his aid.

He is the ultimate kid who is really crap at his job, knows it, wants to just eat cheetos at home and watch David Attenborough docs, and do nothing but everyone sees his potential so they think "He needs to be great."

But If it is ever proven he is shit though, it will prove the Emperor is imperfect because he made Mortarion there for he made something broken.

He is the ultimate fail-safe for Chaos, he will never lose because is he does he wins.

>>55313206
>I am playing what is arguably the worst army in the game currently.
With the exception of Guard being on top I have no idea how the in/codexes are ranking up right now. I'm guessing that necrons are orks (except green tide monobuild) are probably near the bottom. Non-Ynnari Craftoworld also don't look great to me.

>>55311160
>Loud sweating

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Apparently, this is official art of the Dark Imperium. What the hell is going on in the middle?

I remember back at 8th launch people were convinced Necrons were broken, along with GKs and DE.
How things change

>>55313240
>admech
>worst
you toaster lickers are way too whiny

>>55313199
Or just give regular Infantry squads the ability to combine again and let them go back to being the defacto troop choice that actually does things. Why it's not a thing again is strange.

>>55313166
All that needs to be done to conscripts is to not allow the to take orders, commisars cannot save them from morale tests, and a reduction in the maximum unit size.

Give Leman Russ tanks a buff to compensate.

Fixed. Easy. No one can complain about that.

>>55312516
Very 10 points for
> 18' BS2+ Str8 AP-2 DmgD6
And you get 2 for every 10 Tankbustas

>>55313240
>admech
You're getting a codex very soon, so stfu.

>>55313269
I say you just have summary execution be 1d6 models instead of one. I think that's enough.

>>55313240
>admech fags get 2 codexes in as many years
>still won't stop whining

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>>55313085
Carry on then, Grand Master.

>>55313185
>Conscripted Rabble
>This unit does not count as an Astra Militarum unit for the purpose of receiving orders or benefiting from aura abilities. Furthermore, this unit can never control an objective.

>>55313316
>Veteran squad takes morale test
>Fails by one
>Commissar executes 6 vets, wiping the squad
I want to see this happen.

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>>55313245
>Non-Ynnari Craftoworld also don't look great to me.

They aren't great, but I'm sure that's why their codex is coming out before the end of the year. Let's hope they are fixed.

>>55313260
Azrael looks like he's about to lay the smack on Abby while he waits for Lion to get up.

Eldar are doing fine. Just not as fine as Ynarri which is simply WAAC incarnate

>>55313332
Can't fail morale when you have no squad

>>55313185
The answer is pretty simple: Don't give IG objective secured, and then give every other faction objective secured.

>>55313332
Sorry should have been clear. Only for conscripts.
Something like "Fucking Drafted : If this unit fails a morale test but is targeted by summary execution, remove d6 models instead of 1."

>>55313260
holy shit where'd that come from.

>>55313316
Fuck off, Cruddace. Go ruin the Tyranid codex and let someone un-fuck Guard.

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>>55313206

>I am playing what is arguably the worst army in the game

Yes, YES!!! You must pay penance for your crimes in 7th edition!

>>55313241
wut?

>>55313361
Again I was unclear. For scripts only

>>55313349
While technically correct, most people would like to keep the squad after the morale test is "passed"

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Any neat Necron conversions? Planning to start a small necron army as a secondary project but wanted to try making them a bit more visually unique to the standard ones. Anything that I could use as inspiration would be appreciated.

>>55313262
>I remember back at 8th launch people were convinced Necrons were broken, along with GKs and DE.
>How things change

Change? It never stopped. There are still mouth breathing retards that think this is the case. or they hope that these armies stay down, because they don't play them, and they want an auto-win.

>>55313414
I thought Necrons were great when I read the rules, but then I realized how much they lack anti-armor and how vulnerable they are to massed small arms fire. Those things combined totally fuck them.

>>55313390
Use the heavy gauss cannons from the Triarch Stalker kit to make heavy destroyers. The official Finecast kit is pure unadulterated garbage. You can thank me later.

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>>55311642
>Anything that seriously negates power armor's save to reflect their preferred enemy.
That's what I was thinking - I figure a high quantity of plasma weapons is on order, and power swords whenever possible. Vehicle wise, I figure they'd be prepared to counter SM mobility and air support, so interceptors aplenty (both land and air), and quantities of transports to let them counter rapid enemy deployments. Lots of Land Speeders, to let them chase down enemy fast moving elements.
Heavy armor, I dunno. They know their usual enemies are experts at rapid attacks, so I figure they wouldn't go Land Raider/Vindicator heavy. I can see Repulsor's being used quite a bit, since they can fill the role of both transport and fire support.

Related, currently converting a Redemptor into Hecaton Aiakos. The crazy fuck got a hardware upgrade, I guess.

>>55313340
Those are black templars.

>>55313383
It wouldn't be even remotely close enough to remove them from being the most efficient troop choice in the game. Right now the Commissar completely removes the entire downside of the unit, this makes it ever so slightly worse, but they're still by far and away better than anything else.

>>55313442
On paper they did look good. I certainly thought so too. Then when the battle reports started rolling in, it was clear that they were terrible.

In saying that. It was clearly a mistake that GW made, and I'm sure it will be fixed with the release of their Codex.

>>55313442
their basic gun is Ap -1 and they resurrect...