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General done right edition

>Death Guard stuff
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/07/codex-focus-death-guard-part-2-special-rules-and-psychic-powers-sep-7gw-homepage-post-2/

>Top 5 Squigs
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/09/05/celebrate-30-years-of-warhammer-40000-top-5-squigsgw-homepage-post-3/

>Konor Campaign
https://konor.warhammer40000.com/

>GW FAQs (1.1):
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Rules-Errata
>FW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/15/new-and-updated-forge-world-faqs-july16gw-homepage-post-2/

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:
>Everything 8th edition in properly converted pdf & epub, fully bookmarked and linked with in-line errata annotations
https://mega.nz/#F!bF0ExS4D!_XaMECn0K9HiJKUFSopJLA

>Other Megas
https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!9NchGZyZ!-V1LhJALxDp9Tw97WzEQGA
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
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Hey Gamerz
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orks are post2
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Oh, fuck son. It's time for an unboxing.
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>>55294235
First for cleanse the xenos whereever you find him
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>>55294263
What's in the box!?!
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4th for the Black Heart
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I think the saddest thing about Morty is he will still sell like hot cakes despite his retarded price tag.
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Am I going to hell for running Celestine in my blood angels army?
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>>55294272
I think it's the fact he'll sell like hot cakes despite his retarded model.
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+++BATTLE REPORT INCOMING+++

My weekly game was against Chaos this time; a melee-heavy list with a lot of berserkers and some superheavy support. Last week at an anon’s request I field tested my Marauder Destroyer, and this week at a similar request I ran a heavy armor themed list with a Shadowsword and some Leman Russ support.

I arrived at the FLGS at 3:30, but traffic was light and I couldn’t get an opponent until 8:30. With only 2.5 hours of time to set up and play, we only managed to get through 2 turns, so this will be a short report.
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>>55294263
oh cool 50 images of desperate attention-whoring later we see a couple of things that are a massive anticlimax
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>>55294293

+++ARMIES+++

The Iron Horses send in an armor-heavy battalion detachment with an additional troops patrol and superheavy auxiliary. The tank commander is the warlord, leading from the cupola of his LRBT. He has 3 LR punishers in support, plus 3 mechanicus enginseers to repair them in the field. 9 infantry squads led by 3 company commanders protect the vehicles as they advance, and a superheavy Shadowsword-pattern Baneblade lumbers along behind them. The massive tank is trailed by two support vehicles: a Trojan and a Salamander Command Vehicle (SCV) to increase the effectiveness and accuracy of its weapon systems.

The worshippers of Khorne are mostly comprised of 4 full squads of berserkers, all mounted in rhinos to get into assault as quickly as possible. A big group of 40 cultists provides cannon fodder, and a chaotic helbrute brings some anti-armor punch. A massive Renegade Macharius Vulcan lumbers behind the infantry with its twin gatling cannons, and a squad of terminators stands ready to warp right into the thick of the fighting. The entire warband is led by Kharn himself, who jumps into a rhino with a unit of berserkers.
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>>55294270
I don't know, lets find out!
Now featuring more palatable image sizes.

>>55294295
Worry not, anon! It's only 7 images.
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>>55294285
It's both. He really is the bringer of despair.
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>>55294310

+++MISSION+++

The mission was Deadlock, though we both are fairly new still and completely forgot to double the cost of strategies as the rules require. We only got through 2 turns, though, so it hardly mattered. It was also both our first times using tactical objectives, which I have decided I am not too fond of.

I tried to appease /tg/ by placing some big terrain pieces in the center, which is frequent criticism my reports get, but upon rolling for the mission and getting to choose the deployment, I chose to fight the battle across the length of the table instead of the width, kind of turning things on its head. This placed 4 of the 6 objectives in easier reach of me, though it ended up not mattering at all.
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>>55294235
>never had a job
>has never had sex that we know of
>born before education systems were established
>hid from the rest of humanity for tens of thousands of years
>spends thousands of years sitting at home in his chair
Is the emperor the ultimate NEET?
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New Deathwatch codex when? Primaris flyer when?

I want Primaris Deathwatch (pic-related, not my model), and the Repulsor is too slow.
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>>55294333

+++DEPLOYMENT+++

Chaos easily finished deploying first, and would get first turn. I pretty much just plopped infantry squads down until I saw where the Macharius was going, then dropped the Shadowsword where it would get LOS on the massive enemy armor threat.

My plan was, similar to my game against Tyranids two weeks ago, to push into the center with infantry, eating the casualties from assaults and forcing the other guy to lose turns of moving and shooting with most of his army. Turns out that doesn’t work against berserkers too well.

IG did not seize the initiative, and spent no command points to reroll – I wanted to save them for rerolling the Shadowsword.
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>>55294339
>>has never had sex that we know of
>what are the sensei
Fuck off lorelet
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>>55294235
Where's the rest of this image?
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>>55294310
Is that dude's rhino made outta fucking paper?
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I'm thinking of making a gorkanaut and sticking 6 warbosses in it. Fun? viable?

more worried about the first than the second. Would a monolith be too big to make into a floating morkanaut?
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>>55294318
I think he's pretty neato looking, but I'm unenthused at the idea of him becoming ever present alongside magnus and a double battlecannon renegade knight in competetive scenes.

Maybe chapter approved will save the day. Maybe event organizers will learn.
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>>55294344

+++TURN 1+++

Chaos gunned their rhino engines and advanced to within a foot of my lines. The cultists plodded forward towards the temple in the table’s center, and the Macharius remained stationary to light up its Shadowsword opponent. The terminators warped in to the temple, as well, bashing out some priceless stained glass windows etched with pictures of Imperial saints and using them as braces for autocannons.

Shooting from Chaos was light, with some crew served weapons dropping a few guardsmen from their ruins cover. The terminators shot into a squad caught in the open, dropping 4, and combiplasmas scorched a couple of wounds off the Shadowsword’s front armor. The Macharius also sent its volley downfield, stripping a total of 6 wounds off the armored beast. Chaos assaults failed to reach their targets, and overwatch failed to kill anything.

IG is up. The infantry advances on the temple and the terminators within, tanks driving up with them. Only the Shadowsword and its support vehicles remain stationary, as its target is already painted. The volcano cannon opens fire, hitting 5 times, scoring 4 wounds, and dealing 31 damage to the opposing superheavy, deleting it from existence in one round. Ouch. Literally every other thing in the army shoots into the Chaos terminators to the tune of 70 lasrifles with FRFSRF, 7 plasmaguns, 3 punishers, an LRBT, plus support vehicles. They kill 2. Wew.

I charge in with 3 infantry squads, though only one makes it in and loses 4 men to overwatch for their trouble. Only the sergeant and plasma gunner make it into melee, and despite their zeal are easily ripped apart. The northern infantry charge and try to envelop the nearest rhino, hoping to entrap the occupants inside their vehicle and prevent escape. They bring the transport down to 3 wounds, but fail to completely get around its flanks.
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>tfw the date for the collector's edition of the AdMech codex was in fact a misprint.
I knew it probably was but people kept making me hopeful it wasn't.
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>ywn have an Eldar GF
Literally why live?
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>>55294272
>it's sad that nobody's as poor as me

Wanna know what has a retarded price tag? Rolex. Invicta 9937 literally has indistinguishable automatic Swiss movement with the same 8 ticks per second as Rolex, and the same styling and the same metal, and it only costs $200 more than their $100 basic Japanese movement model.

So what does Rolex's extra $9,700 get you? In-house assembly, inspection, resale value, in-house materials, and 100 extra meters of depth rating CERTIFICATION.

You don't pay $9,700 extra for looks, because the Invicta looks 99% similar to a Submariner. You don't pay $9,700 extra for the diving ability, because ratings are paid for and tested, but actual depth viability for that additional 100m down to 300m is actually always there. G-Shock does the same thing, they pay extra for their expensive Frogmans to say rated for X depth, and the cheaper G-Shocks only say rated for X-100m, when all G-Shocks have equal depth resistance. You don't even pay $9,700 for the beautiful craftsmanship and smooth movement, because THE INVICTA ALSO HAS SWISS MOVEMENT.

Next time you wonder why people pay GW prices, think about Rolex, or any $250,000+ supercar that can be beaten by a $100,000 GT-R. Buying a $100 toy is not expensive nor prohibitive to the average human being.
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>>55294350
so's the super heavy
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>>55294235
Posted it over there, may as well post it here, I have a chinaman order going in shortly, so I'm looking to finalize this list:

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Adepta Sororitas) ++
>Celestine: 2x Geminae Superia [250]
>Canoness: Condemnor Boltgun, Power sword [50]
>Battle Sister Squad (9): 2x Flamer, Combi-flamer, Power maul [114]
>Battle Sister Squad (9): 2x Flamer, Combi-flamer, Power maul [114]
>Battle Sister Squad (5): Heavy Bolter, 2x Storm Bolter, Chainsword [59]
>Seraphim Squad (10): 2x Twin inferno pistols, Plasma pistol, Power sword [169]
>Dominion Squad (7): 4x Meltagun, Combi-melta [157]
>Dominion Squad (7): 4x Meltagun, Combi-melta [157]
>Repressor: Heavy Flamer, 2x Storm Bolter [92]
>Repressor: Heavy Flamer, 2x Storm Bolter [92]
>Rhino: 2x Storm Bolter [77]
>Rhino: 2x Storm Bolter [77]

++ Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium) ++
>Inquisitor Greyfax [85]
>Vindicare Assassin [90]
>Vigilators (5): 5x Executioner Greatblade [95]
>Vigilators (5): 5x Executioner Greatblade [95]
>Null-Maiden Rhino: Storm Bolter [72]
>Vulture Gunship: Twin Punisher Gatling Cannon, Heavy Bolter [160]


++ Super-Heavy Detachment (Questor Imperialis) ++
>Cerastus Knight Acheron: Acheron Flame Cannon, Twin Heavy Bolter, Reaper Chainfist [495]

++ Total: [142 PL, 2500 PTS] ++

Greyfax and Canoness each get in a Rhino with a flamer squad, Dominions use the Repressors as mobile bunkers, and everything except the Vindicare and the minimum squad of Bolter Bitches runs up the board and starts burning things.

Thoughts/advice?
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>>55294363
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>>55294314
Sneaking a peek inside.
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>>55294375
Okay okay we get it dude, You're dick is really small, no need to try and compensate anymore
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>>55294374
>wanting to fuck a xeno when you could have a perfectly good toaster instead
Shit taste confirmed.
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>>55294357
its a bit big around for a Naut height too. would recommend just getting one, its a fun model
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>>55294393
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>>55294393
>>55294411
Are you making a live action movie?
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>>55294411

+++TURN 2+++

40 berserkers plus Kharn jump out of their vehicles and 30 of them make it into combat. Shooting is light, with a few autocannon shots pinging onto a Punisher and some infantry getting gunned down by combibolters. The marines don’t want to inflict too many casualties and risk losing their charge.

The assault goes well, and this is when I learn about how berserkers get to charge, kill, then consolidate and kill again in the same round. I lose 4 infantry squads in one turn, dropping me down to 4 surviving and almost 40 guardsmen are torn to pieces. The helbrute also charges into the russ line, half-killing a Punisher.

The IG responds by falling back and trying to make a firing line. Almost everything the berserkers touched is dead, so there is no need for Get Back in the Fight! Orders. FRFSRF orders are issued instead, and the tank commander instructs the punisher to his right to fire on the exposes chaos infantry before they can launch another devastating assault.

Laser rifles and heavy bolters bark out, eventually felling all but 2 of one squad of berserkers and 5 of another. The northernmost rhino, already crippled, is destroyed by massed las and plasmagun fire, and the Shadowsword pivots to bring its volcano cannon to bear on the helbrute. It hits 4 times, wounds 3 times, and delivers 16 wounds to the walker, vaporizing it.

At this point the store is closing and we call it a game. Chaos pulled tactical objectives that all required him to sit on his own backfield, and easily gathered 9 points. I only drew cards for 1 of my own objectives, and got first blood for destroying the Macharius, leaving it 3-9 Chaos. My opponent was quick to tell me that had we kept playing it would probably have swung more my way, but I just said meh, thems the rules and you won fair and square. Personally I think the cards are a bit too random, but I won’t write them off from one bad experience.
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>>55294411
Please stop with the awful filters.
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>>55294310
>>papercraft macharius vulcan
What kind of rabid, subhuman beast is your opponent?
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>>55294343
its not like you want to get too close with anything you can put in a repulsor anyway
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>>55294432
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>>55294400
>wanting to fuck a toaster when you could have the toaster peg you
Unplug admech players
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>>55294435
it's almost as bad as toy dinosaurs and mr potatohead stompas
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>>55294434
I like the extra effort put into the batrep. Carry on, anon.
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>>55294398
Nah, you don't get it, because everyone knows you're just going to cry about GW prices again tomorrow. Gotta wonder about all these losers who make small dick and you must be younger than 18 jokes, because I've never been stupid enough to feel the need to.
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>>55294441
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>>55294468
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>>55294396
And let's just pull them all out at once because I gotta get to work on the Razorwing.
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>>55294468
your steel legion look real good mate
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>>55294235
Sauce on general picture
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>>55294346
>what is old as fuck retconned canon
Learn your lore from somewhere other than 1d4chan please
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>>55294310
>Macharius Vulcan
For a tank hand made out of cardboard and marker, it looks surprisingly good. The rhino is ugly as shit though.
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>>55294478
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>>55294363
>>55294432
>31 damage
>16 damage
Zog me
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>>55294496
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>>55294466
Oh no guys looks like we have an internet pseudointellectual here
Shouldn't you be obsessing over identity politics or something?
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>>55294508
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>>55294482
I think that's from part 6 of "Jojo's Bizarre Adventure"
Underrated but one of my favorites
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>>55294520
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>>55294400
>Wanting a toaster when you could have a perfectly good ever-changing GF instead
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>>55294534
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>>55294362
I agree. I hate seeing special characters in every game, especially primarchs and the like.

>>55294375
You're kind of proving my point. The model isn't worth the price and retards buy it up anyway.
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>>55294544

~ f i n ~
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>>55294537
Ah! Another disciple of the Great Deceiver! Hail Tzeentch my brother!
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>>55294357
Six warbosses in a naut seems viable. They are decent combatants for their points cost. My main concern would be making the naut too tempting a target, but they are fairly tough, especially with a KFF. Would consider swapping out a couple of them to get grotsnik and a nob with a banner though.

Characters seem about the only way to make non-razorback, non-flier transports worth it in this edition.
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Should I start the endless journey into 40k? I see my friends diving in head first and they seem to think it will be fun, but I can also see them dropping hundreds and hundreds on little army men and paints and terrain and tables and etc, and spending hours and hours reading books that they also paid like 50 bucks for.

I also havent seen anyone play a game. It's all just painting and painting and unwillingness to accept the current look of a unit because "it can be better".

It seems to be just another grind like MTG or whatever. What is the lasting appeal?
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>>55294489
Plz cite your retcon source kthxbye
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>>55294595
Lasting appeal(for me) is the hobby aspect of it. I didn't know jack shit about painting/modelling 3 years ago and now I'm one of the better painters of my group and I've been encouraging and helping the other guys to step up their painting/hobbying game.
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>>55294482
Emperor no Pico
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>>55294560
Blame GW for making there be no almost no reason not to bring special characters.
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>>55294481

thanks, they are a labor of love

I am taking suggestions for what kind of theme to build a list off of for my next game. So far i have done:

>conscripts (never again)
>melee wave infantry
>close air support
>heavy armor
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>>55294621
Same guy here. What I DO like is that there is no 'rotation'. Once you have your units and paint them they are yours to use whenever, which seems like it should go without saying when dumping massive quantities of money and time into something.


Editions usually just change rules but keep the units I'm told.

I'm like 35% on it, but I mean... everybody's doing it guys. It's the cool thing right?!
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>>55294561
proxy rhino is one thing but he actually put smoke launchers on it which means he plans on using it for a while.....that's terrrible
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>>55294575
Ignore the banna nob bit, I thought they re-rolled ones. Although I guess it bumps your power klaws back up to 2+.
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>>55294482
Heretical Herman's
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>>55294537
Congrats, you're actually fucking a bird.
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>>55294674
Units are written out of the rules occasionally but you can generally just use the model to represent another unit.
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>>55294612
>please do all my work for me and find your sources so I can argue with you for the rest of the thread about what counts as canon
Nothxbye
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I picked up the Horus Heresy book Nemesis from the library yesterday.
Admittedly I'm judging a book by its cover, but it really doesn't look promising. Is it better than the cover art?
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>>55294595
If you don't want to drop hundreds on plastic miniatures you can always hit up ebay for the used market or chinese recasts. You can't really get around paying for good paints if you want your minis to look good, though.
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So I'm guessing we're not getting those big nurgle beasts in that one piece of artwork? Those multi-legged ones?
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So my ultimate goal for collecting is to have a table with full terrain with a main and secondary army squaring off. Idea is to build everything for two factions and when I need something for a list I can take them off the board instead of a display case. Besides the point, i have tyranids as my first army. What should be the second army. I want differing playstyles so no IG or orks. Thoughts?
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>>55294683
ain't got no tiiiiime for birdsex
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>>55294718
There's been no sight of them except that art, but GW seem pretty keen on showing models in the art recently, so I wouldn't be surprised if they are part of the DG release and they just haven't released any pictures of the models. Ditto for the GUOs.
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>>55294235
Would a Gorkanaut be a good counter for a Storm Lord?
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Okay real talk these are agressively bad dice.

Unclear at a casual glance pipping

Uneven shape and thus weighting

Worthless for gameplay.
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>>55294778
That or they're part of a later wave of releases.
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>>55294595
You can play endless games with unpainted models if you like; playing a game with a lovingly painted army that you've built from scratch is really fucking cool though.

You don't have to chuck retarded amounts of money into it if you don't want to. Slow and steady wins the race. Try reading online about the factions and the background and see if it grabs you. I find a 'rule of cool' approach to armies makes the game way more fun than stressing out about points-optimization or winning every game.
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>>55294715
I painted a figure using Da Vinci fluid acrylics (not model paint acrylics) and it looked nice but the paint comes off sort of easily if not sealed and always feels slightly 'wet' to the touch.

Like everyone else, I recommend just buying the good stuff because once they're painted you'll wish you had.
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>>55294783
this cant be real
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>>55294537
>Wanting to fuck the god of change when you could literally fuck the god of kinky sex
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>>55294783
Ugh what the hell
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>>55294810
I think you'll find Slaanesh probably fucks you anon, instead of the other way around
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>>55294575
I've been playing so long that characters still feel like a no-no to me unless it's a giant game and it fits my army fluff. I don't think I need the banner because warbosses already hit on a 2+
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>>55294783
>Tfw they are going to give nids new dice soon
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>>55294537
I keep seeing this girl pop up, who the hell is she? Why the fuck do tzeentchfags keep shitting up the general with her?
Also, where can I find more of this heresy?
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>>55294782
No.
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So I've never won a game against my buddy who plays Dark Angels - they are just too over powered in my opinion. I play Space Wolves and Death Guard, will I be 'that guy' if I get Mortarion and bring him to a few games to actually win. Losing constantly is annoying, even when he tells me tactics to try and shit its just frustrating. He doesnt even try but I cant just beat him but have no problem against some other people.

Fuck Dark Angels.
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>>55294810
>never actually looked at this picture enough to see the detail, only ever really glanced past the thumbnail
>always thought it was some sort of weird sex-mermaid
>those are hands
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Reminder
Reece, one of the bloggers that somehow ended up as a playtester for GW and gaming... spokesperson, has been talking about how Necrons are perfectly fine and strong as is. And that people have been complaining for no reason.
Poor Necron players, ya got nothing to look forward to anytime soon. On the other hand he says he is excited for the AdMech Codex and that it is looking good.
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>>55294783
I kinda like how spoopy they are. Would be fun to use for nurgle powers, disgustingly resilient saves, mortal wound gifting, etc.
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>>55294849
you could try listening to him

iy's not like you're physically sucking his cock if you listen, just metaphorically
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>>55294810
>selling your soul for one good fuck instead of cuddling a sister for life
My priest warned me about this
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>>55294783
Yeah, I kind of like the concept but unless they have done some really clever tricks with the weight they are no good for rolling. Would consider them as wound counters, but the yellow stuff just doesn't look good enough to me and like you say they aren't terribly clear. Could maybe fix that with a translucent red wash to make the inner part look like infected flesh and have each boil pop out visually as well as literally, but not going to pay the price GW will ask for something I could maybe make sort-of cool wound trackers out of.
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>>55294561
>unpainted models
>cardboard rhino
come the fuck on? What's even the point if you don't want to enjoy the theatre? Why wouldn't you just play a videogame?
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>>55294849
How well do you do you know Dark angels and how well do you know your armies. Yes I'm going Sun Tzu on this.
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>>55294849
Haven't actually seen a single DA player in 8th yet, but I never found them hard to beat in 7th. The only "good" DA player was a friend of mine who played Ravenwing/Invisibilityspam/Azreal+50 conscripts.
They didn't seem very good to me, I've heard Greenwing is shit, Deathwing is too expensive, and Ravenwing isn't durable enough anymore. So what gives?
What kinda stuff does he bring? Raven, Death or Greenwing?


I'd like to know how he uses his bikes, I want to start a space marine biker army and don't really know how good/bad/how to use that shit
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>>55294864
Reece, the player that LITERALLY tabled his friends Necrons during one of his streams. Wasn't even a bad Necron force either from what I could tell.
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>>55294864
He came over to dakkadakka to tell the ork players the same thing and of course the mongoloids over there sucked his dick.
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>>55294674
Some models are pulled from the rules, but not many.

Usually what they do for 'rotation' is jerf whatever was popular the edition before and HEAVILY push people buying whatever models aren't selling well. Chaos Termies in 8th, for example. Every preview for the chaos codexes pushed them. Or they just make new units ala Primaris.
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>>55294634

Oh, I do. If I wanted to see the same special characters every game, I'd play warmachine (which I do want to play, but 40k has an iron grip here). I had the explosion of characters in 5th, and I hate them now.
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>>55294882
I dunno dude. I think >>55294849 should just fuck him. He plays dark angels so he's probably into it, and if they start fucking, the dark angel player will probably start jobbing to his space wolf girlfriend to please him.
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>>55294754
While they are still elfs, murder elfs are pretty fucking cool.
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>>55294933
The idea of celebrity, even within niche communities like tabletop wargaming, is a hell of a drug.
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>>55294783
>tfw GW is literally selling loaded dice to shill their new release
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>>55294835
That's just a random Tzeentch bitch
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>>55294924
>>55294933
He isn't even subtle in bias.
He has also been talking about how Malefic Lords and Magnus are broken but Guilliman and Celestine being everywhere is okay cause they aren't OP.
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>>55294933
>>55294924
>the guy payed by GW to be a mouthpiece publicly acts as a GW mouthpiece
Don't listen to his general stuff, because it's all [GW APPROVED OPINION]. But when you get off the talking points and into detailed insights he's great.

Slannesh Termiebomb was his idea first as far as I can tell, plus he's been the guide on what GW's about to fix. So I like him for that, plus his scratchy voice
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>>55294832
>that .gif
Are maleceptors any good now in 8th?
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>>55294374
all the good waifus are imperial, though
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>>55294987
False. Shadowsun is Tau.
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>>55294971
>m-must resist the heresy
>the inquisitor said we should purge the infidels
>i wonder if its ok if I use my dick
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>>55294983
>Slaanesh termiebomb
>His idea

Give me a break, anyone with half a brain came up with that within five minutes of reading the stratagem.
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>>55295005
Yeah. for real.
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>>55294674
>No rotation

Oh, you poor innocent anon. I would have said wait to see if nu-GW does something about the cyclical nerf-and-buff, but, well, Primaris Marines.
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>>55294984
I wouldn't know, haven't gotten to a maleceptor yet
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>>55294922
>>55294919

He alternates between them all. One week he might bring a full army of Deathwing, the other Ravenwing etc. He has about 6000-7000 points worth, all HQs for them etc.

Deathwing is too good, his knights usually destroy my Wulfen in a couple of turns, both of us have storm shields on them all, but he has Belial giving them all rerolls and I hit on 4 but Knights hit on 3s so he usually one ups me there. If we're playing 2000 points he can easily field 5 knights, Belial, 15 terminators plus a handful of some other bits - usually a librarian in terminator armour.

Ravenwing are unbeatable. The best I ever did was killing 2 of his Ravenwing Knights and a few regular bikers. The Dark Shroud gives him minus 1 to hit, if he feels like it his librarian on a bike can cast aversion giving them -2 to hit which is frustrating, plasma talons rip me apart and again Sammael gives him rerolls.

The classic tactic there is one 6 man squad of knights kept back with a darkshroud, send in 6 normal bikes with an assault bike in the mix, distract me, both my armies are melee based obviously so I get into contact then the knights fuck my shit up.

Greenwing he'll sometimes bring Azrael, giving everything a 4+ invul if they are 6 inch away which he uses well, ezekiel to blast smite at me, Asmodai with a assault squad and shit, I just can't win.

Dark Angels basically have 3 different armies with 3 different grandmasters.
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>>55294999

Being female and non-white (blue), does that make her the fulfill-er of diversity quotas?
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just got back from my first game of IG.

>vs tyranids, 1000 pts
>last konor mission
he had a battalion of 2 broodlords, 2 lictors, a squad of 4 zoanthropes, and 3 squads of genestealers

>I had a battalion of a company commander, lord commissar, platoon commander, a callidus assassin, a command squad with 4 plasma rifles, 2 barebones infantry squads, 1 squad of 20 conscripts
>and a spearhead of a tank commander, 2 barebones leman russ battle tanks, and a heavy weapons squad with 2 lascannons and a heavy bolter

>he stuck all 3 points fairly close together way at the back of his deployment zone
>I slowly made my way up the board, leaving the leman russes basically still
>having enough orders to 1st rank 2nd rank let me annihilate the genestealer squad he stuck close-ish to me, as well as knock the zoanthrope squad down to 3
>deepstriked my callidus in to try and take out a broodlord right away, but instead, he whiffed his pistol shot(even with a reroll), and got torn to pieces after only doing 2 wounds
>proceed with the game
>shoot the zoanthropes to shit, one-round the lictors with my lascannons and heavy bolters once they came in turn 3
>managed to advance my command squad in as a sacrifice to take the first point
>move! move! move!d my conscripts up to the second point to take the minor victory
>lost the platoon commander and command squad(obviously)
>moved my commanders up the board carefully and strategically enough to manage to keep giving my conscripts and all my infantry orders every turn
>table him top of turn 5 for the major victory
>altogether, lost 5 command models, 2 infantry models, 7 conscripts, and my callidus

I felt like I played smart, not too dirty, and I had a lot of fun(as did my opponent), but goddamn, conscripts are just broken, and I felt dirty winning almost entirely due to being able to just shit out dakka with them.

pic related, I'm breaking in The Cobra tomorrow with a 2000 point 2v2 game.
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>>55294983
>Slannesh Termie bomb
>his idea
Dude. I've been pushing the 10 termie bomb since 8th started and people gave me shit for it here. The double shooting strategem is just the icing on the cake.
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>>55294783
Cool as fuck. And I bet the balance on these is nowhere near as bad as people are implying.
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can anyone help me with a 1000 point chaos army. im not good at list building and would like a list only using slaanesh please. atm im thinking lots of deamonettes
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>>55294983
>his idea

Rofl, ya he's a real intellectual messiah.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13887305
reposting again:
Would you buy plastic sisters?
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>>55295059
If you play emperors children noise marines are fucking great.

Honestly, a chaos lord, sorc, emps children and maybe some slaaneshi terminators will take you pretty far.
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>>55294984
Imo, their still shit.
Not that they're actually bad or anything, its just that they dont really fill a niece compared to anything else in the codex.
>weak cc for a monster, 2 Carnifexes for the price of one maleceptor
>psychic support monster is better done by Tervigon who is more durable and has better abilities
>Zoanthropes and biovores are better for mortal wound spam
I mean, TECHNICALLY they are ok, they are fine for their points, and in a void are pretty decent. Its just when you look at the rest of the army when you realize that anything the maleceptor can do, another unit can do better.
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>>55295050
All dice without sharp edges are at least a little bit biased, that's why casino dice have exact right angles
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>>55295070
what if I wanted some deamonettes?
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>>55294987
Question is which faction has the best traps?
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>>55295028
Ok so what do you run against it?
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>>55295035
Nice Baneblade dude, i see you too went with the sword arm.

His name is Big Willie, with adorable side-kick, which i need a name for.
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>>55294987
If it don't think in his 50,000 years of life the emperor plowed an Eldar or two your faith needs to be questioned
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>>55295065
>over 50 sisterfags
>and counting
What strange fucking alternate dimension did I fall into?
Where the fuck did all these SOBfags suddenly come from? Is it because they are so good in 8th? Is it Celestine's THICCness? What in the fucking world is going on...
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>>55295028
Knights? Bring melts and las
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>>55295126
I've had a sister's army since the witch hunters release, but I'm not updating my army until there's plastics, it's not worth it.
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Is there an actually cool way to do Black Legion? No association with Abbadon or any of ADB's characters, just a warband of old Sons of Horus seeking vengeance for their primarch and fighting the Imperium, supported by mutant uprisings and renegades.

Also, good bits for converting marines and renegades to be chaotic? I got some inspiration from reading Eye of Terror and want to make unique looking units.
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1ksons codex when?

Pic is the start of my 1k army. I have a ton of models already but I want to build and then paint straight away to avoid a grey unpainted mess.
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>>55295050

It's not bad if you don't care, but you probably should.

And again, the pipping is too irregular. You wanna be able to toss about 40 dice and still be able to pick out the numbers without any slowdown.
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>>55295108
Space Wolfs:
5 Wulfen (storm shields, thunder hammers, claws)
3 Thunderwolf cav (2 storm shields/thunder hammer, 1 claws)
20 grey hunters (4 plasma, powerfist, power axe)
wolf guard termies (thunderhammer/storm shield, claws, assault canon, power sword, storm bolter/powerfist
10 blood claws (flamer)
ragnar
krom
wolf lord (powersword, plasma)


death guard
dark imperium set
3 extra plague marines
6 extra pox walkers
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>>55295126
>>55295065
Personally I just want them to get redone in plastic for all the weird imperial cult creepy shit and battle pope stuff. Actual sisters of battle with boltguns and their various power armored flavors do nothing for me since I already have plenty of marines. I want repentia, penitent engines, exorcists, war-popes, arco-flagellants, mobs of crazed faithful, witch hunters, etc.
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>>55295065
No options for already having a full sisters army but would buy plastic anyway
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>>55295128
Deathwing knights are only toughness 4 so doesnt matter, 3 up invul due to shields

Ravenwing are toughness 5 so could be useful there, but they get a 5+jink invul if turbo boost and since they are assault plasma talons he'll just do that. Plus the minus 1 to hit due to dark shroud. Has like 18 (i think) wounds so if i focus on that, his black knights just kill me
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>>55295157
No long fangs?
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>>55295182
Not yet
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>>55295176
I heard knights and assumed the big guys. Shows how much I know about angels
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slaanesh daemons:
Keeper of secrets
20 deamonettes
20 Deamonettes
exalted seeker chariot
10 seekers

50 power level thoughts?
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>>55295147
New black legion rules are very much black legion and very not sons of horus - gone is the speartip strike tactic, etc.

Obviously so called "thrice cursed traitors" warbands exist, but most are mercilessly slaughtered by other legions who still hold a grudge against the sons of horus for what they perceive as losing the war. IMO, your best bet would be using renegades tactics and make a sort of rampaging reaver army.
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>>55295205
oh and the masque of slaanesh
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>>55294783
lolwhut
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>>55295060
>>55295041
>>55295005
>posts it on the community page before the Codex even comes out
>b-but I totally thought of it before guys, he sucks
Whatever man, what (you) came up with and never told anyone vs him giving a great tip to literally everyone is pretty different

The guy's a good player and aside from GW shit, a good commentator.
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>>55294669
Maybe mechanized infantry? Bunch of infantry squads in chimaeras with tank support?
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>>55295194
Get on that shit. Nothing makes a player better than a nemesis, just keep collecting and trying new shit. Also what tactics does he recommend? Could out him as a that guy depending on his recommendations
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>>55294669
Wait where is the Ork batrep
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>>55295157
Sounds like he has a real army and you don't. Where's your heavy support for either army? Why 3 hqs?

Some Longfangs with missiles or lascannons and a chaos predator, two gun-brutes, contemptor dread, that new tank, etc seems to me what you need.
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>>55295201
Knights are big guys.
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>>55295113
Tiny Dave
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>>55295233
And, apparently, endowed with a very tasty dong.
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>>55295240
A few different ones. I'll usually send in say Wulfen and thunderwolf since they have 3+ invul but obviously they can die fast depending on what hes playing, so then stuck with some greyhunters that get hunted so for example he might suggest sending in blood claws to keep me from shooting others and keep me tangled, which okay, but I need to get into melee, he can quickly gun me down depending on my approuch so seems pointless.

I dunno, I just cant figure it out. He's started building thousand sons so hopefully I do better against them
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>>55294310
I normally hate you guardfags, but Christ that other army looks like trash. I say you win by default.
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>>55294707
>make a claim
>get asked for source on claim
>why do I have to prove it to you i'm not going to spoon feed you
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anyone interested in buying some chaos? got 20 cultists 5 chosen 10 chaos marines 2 rhinos and a land raider all for sale fair prices
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>>55295278
Pretty choice hawkshroud. Is this from a WD?
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>>55294669
Not sure what you have, but what about Napoleonic Wars with lots of line infantry w/ lasguns, rough riders, and small cannons (like the small FW manned batteries)?
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>>55295233
Like I said, I've been shitting up threads with 10 terminators since 8th edition started, so...
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>>55295000
baka
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>>55294835
Ignitrix from Khornette Quest from ages ago. Here's her album (some promotions):
http://imgur.com/a/spSu6

Other albums of daemons from the same author (also promotions):
http://imgur.com/a/IUhQM
http://imgur.com/a/Q8zti
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>>55295304
Slaanesh marines?
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>>55295100
Pretty much the same thing I'm building after painting Harlequins. I'd suggest either using the Demonic Ritual ability on your Sorc or Lord. Alternatively, Herald + Keeper and 3 Daemonette units makes a relatively cheap battalion if you want to get them in, while getting more CP's alongside benefitting from Legion rules
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>>55295292
Contrary to popular belief, wolves aren't as melee focused as you'd think. Space wolves in my mind are more meat and potatoes army. Get some more shooty and definitely long fangs. If you want balls to the wall melee get blood angels.
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>>55294754
Chaos - lots of ways to build it with CSM, daemons, and R&H.
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>>55295103
spore mines are fun
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>>55295266

Only been playing for about 4 or so months. But the thing is I do okay against other people. win some, lose some but never lose as bad as I do against him. But when I watch him play others he seems to do average.

Its frustrating because he actually wants me to win, I can see it. He'll sometimes cheer if I kill a squad. But even if we play tactical objectives he smashes me.

As >>55295240
says I think I need a rhino/land raider to get into his deployment zone to rush him
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>>55295316
Not sure just a picture I found awhile back.
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>tfw got my september copy of WD on sep 1st
what the fuck i didn't get my august copy until like the 23rd
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>>55295148
I know it'll happen, but I'll be annoyed when all the mehrine flavours get their codexes before stuff like orks.
I anticipate Drew Carey will be last, but given there are popular xenos out there...
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>>55295377
Drew...Carey?
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>>55295377
Could be worse, could be a Necron player. Bottom of the GW pecking order
Orks will probably be soon-ish. Tau maybe after Orks but before Necrons.
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>>55295386
Drukhari
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>>55295278
4 u
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>>55295359
>more art that's literally models drawn
Man that sucks. Just because narrative tones are smacked on and lack nuance doesn't mean the aesthetics shouldn't. If anything, the flexible gothic look was always the best part
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>Mortarion is going to cost $150 burger dollars
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>>55295377
Frontlinegaming (aka the modern gods of 40k) dropped the next 5 codex to be released.

Which ones are you the most hype about ?
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>>55295409
Thanks for the spoonfeed senpai
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What am i supposed to do with a doomsday ark?

is it anti tank or anti horde im confused
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>>55295352
another anon here, space wolves through 6th and 7th did best using melee defensively due to counter attack, nowadays they just seem to play as a slightly more choppy marine army. Still plenty of fun to play with them though, characters like Bjorn add some flavor to the faction along with other things like being able to tack on a terminator leader for your long fangs packing a cyclone missile launcher and a storm shield to provide both a bullet sponge and extra firepower

Been doing quite well with a dreadnought heavy space wolves list but I'm going to be facing a greater demon heavy list in a tourney next week being led by magnus and I have no idea how the hell im supposed to deal with that red nerd and his invuln saves

Got a leviathan to help at least but I'm not sure what to load it out with, dual guns seems appealing as its cheaper and I could use the points to spare for various wargear upgrades.

To you folks with leviathans what loadouts have worked the best for you in 8th so far?
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>>55295157
Your List is very unfocused, and from what it sounds like, you're bringing "muh favourite models, duh" against his finetuned, competetively built army.

>only 3 thunderwolves
Thunderwolves are really good. A bro of mine plays pretty much nothing but thunderwolves, maybe a couple bloodclaws for command points and then a unit of long fangs or two. Also, he loves his Dreadnoughts with those runeshields.
Thunderwolves are fucking scary, man.
One of the early games of 8th I played was a 2v2, my GKs and his SW vs a Deathguard player and Necrons. We had lost no more than 3 MODELS by the third turn while our opponents had lost their landraider, the deathguard terminators inside, a rhino full of plague marines, 15 wraiths, most of his warriors, his immortals and we killed a bunch of their characters as well. The Wolves pretty much tanked all the damage and went after juicy targets while my GK's dealt with the annoying shit like the wraiths with smite and psychic shenanigans.


>5 Wulfen
>5 Terminators
Why not just grab either 10 Terminators or 15 (15?) Wulfen? Also, dont mix shooty/killy while mixing isnt as bad in 8th as it was in other editions, its still a good idea for a unit to have a focused purpose. Termies and Wulfen are good, but not if they are in low numbers like that. Redundancy is important for making a solid army.

>3 HQ's
Always remember HQ choices are almost always taxes, apart from a few ones like OP Celestine and Girlyman and stuff.
Only take as many HQ's as you need to fill your Detatchement. If you grab another HQ to get more Command points with, say, a new detatchement, ask yourself first
>can I fit the units I want into my existing deteatchement?
>if so, is the extra command point really necessary?
>what other units of similiar costs could I buy that might be more effective for my army instead of that HQ choice?
>does the new HQ fill a role not already taken care of in my army? (example: taking krom when you already have a wolflord)
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>>55295360
Oh, well there you go. He clearly has a fully fleshed army he's collected for years and years to get what, 7000 points of dark angels with basically the entire chapter represented on the table top? The guy can make any army with all the gaps filled, where yours maybe has too much of one thing or lacks in some area. That's pretty normal.

Like >>55295352 says, I've also seen space wolves to have some serious melee teeth and above average choppa for normal squads, but still primarily a shooting army like other space marines. Getting in there and bullying him into charging with your own shooting and make him suffer your counter attack is the classic space wolves move IMO.

There's always other methods too depending on how you'd like to build your army, like the flying brickwolf transport, or drop pods (the latter a bit lackluster in this edition). I would plot out a solid list that covers everything you would want and work towards building that rather than stress over how to better use the mish mosh you happen to have.
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>>55295113
Little Billie?
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>>55295113
Tricky Dick
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>>55295431
I didn't see it, and apparently fail at google.
Which ones are they?
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>>55295113
Little Angus/Lil'Angus
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>>55295485
It's in their latest podcast
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>>55294783
As a full fledged GW/nurgle cuck, those are unworthy
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>>55295431
>modern gods of 40k
No
Anyway, they just repeated GW's NOVA seminar

>>55295442
Seem to handle both. Flexible
7.5 GEQ kills per volley at closer range.
High power to hurt heavies
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>>55295428
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>>55295113
Little William
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>>55295458
>>anon tells it like it is
Can't over emphasize the strengths of redundancy, list focus, and hq-ing with a purpose.
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>>55295431
>The modern gods of 40k

Literally fucking who
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>>55295113
The Dinkster
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>>55295521
Thats countin for the gauss arrays and the Big boy gun?

I just feel like the shot number is really fucked
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>>55295506
Thanks, frontlinegaming.
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>>55295538
>>55295498
going with one of these two, thanks for the input anons
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>>55295468
>>55295458
Thanks for the advice there guys, really appreciate it. I'm playing him this week and next but I'll definetly boost my army a little then. Might add Thunderwolf and Wulfen and go fast, hard hitting army.

Thing is, he only started in feb, just has a pretty decent job so bought shit tons.
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>>55295340
Thanks anon, thats some good shit you got there.
Hearts and kisses all around <3
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>>55295560
How so?
It does good considering it also has Quantum and a good wound pool for survivability
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>>55295113
Never speak to me or my wife's remote demolition vehicle again.
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>>55295585
Im pretty new to the game and I guess I was expecting it to be more like my friends las predator

Is there a resource for 8th necron strategy and listbuilding? I dont wanna be a dickhead and blow up the thread just cause Im new
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>>55295579
>>having to paint that much shit at one time
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>>55295521
They literally write most of the important FAQ changes, they drop BOMBS in every episode on things that will be errata/released/nerfed 2months in advance.

They're in constant day-to-day talk with GW. They're writing articles on official GW community pages directing the flow of hype releases.

Rumours are dead. Leaks are dead. "Maybe" is dead. There is only Frontlinegaming
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>>55295600

1d4chan
Shitty memes aside, the Tactics pages are great to get new people up to speed on some army basics. And getting the hang of the game as a whole.
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>>55295619
tbf, hes done all his greenwing and half his Deathwing. Only done 3 ravenwing though.
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>>55295641
Thanks

Ive got 12 Warriors
10 Immortals
Doomsday ark
3 scarabs
Stalker
3 destroyers
Overlord

What should I be buying next?
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>>55295600
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_40,000/Tactics/Necrons(8E)
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Alright 40kg.
Help me choose.
Mantis Warriors or Astral Knights?
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>>55295624
Go to bed Reece, and what is up with your voice

>>55295662
Dunno, not really a big Necron player, so can't help you much. I'd recommend the aforementioned 1d4chan as well as those faction threads on Dakka Dakka. The faction circlejerks are great cause they have a bunch of people ready to talk your ear off about their precious army men
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>>55295669
Astral Knights show those soulless robotic bastards who's boss.
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>>55295624
99.2% of the peps in this thread don't even know that the next 5 codex releases are out.
If you're not following frontlinegaming you're so far behind.

Mortarion is a month+ old get with the times. We're talking about assassin FAQs now.
Come join us in the future you senile outdated fucks. (Lol they don't know about the assassin stuff kek)
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>>55295458
FUCK I'm taking notes and I'm the other space wolf guy
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>>55295527
F-fuck
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>>55295643
Well that's just impressive. Good on him.

Enjoy your classic rivalry.
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>>55295669
Astral Knights, they are heroes deserving of a re-founding so their legend may live on!.
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>>55295669
Storm Wardens.
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Does anybody know how to send yourself an HTML file version of your battlescribe list from your phone? I remember previous versions you were able to do that, but the newer version only sends you an email with the list in the text of the email instead of a file.
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>>55295720
Who even is the strongest primarch?

I thought it was Sanguinious
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>>55295458
This is an impressive post ?
It reeks of "bro40k" let's break it down.

>Muh brother sez thundercav best
Wrong.

>Terminator gud
Wrong.
>Mixing shooting and assault armies is bad.
Wrong.

>ALL HQs besides Y and X are tax
Wrong.

Overall rating: Lonely basement playing poorfag that dreams away his "tactical" mind on 1d4chan.
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>>55295777
Physical strength?
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>>55295773
Pay the subscription
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>>55295777
With the gifts of the chaos gods horus. Magnus is probably high up due to his psychic powers, and I'm not sure on the most physically strong.
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>>55295815
Abaddon can bench all the primarchs at the same time no sweat.
ALL CHAOS GOD BACK HIM UP
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>>55295340
My old LoC my get reworked into her.
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>>55295777
Everyone's afraid of Angron because he simply doesnt care about dying, Sanguinius is considered the best swordsman and Fulgrim is either tied with him or second best. Everyone else can fight for third place and Alpharius is last because he got beaten by a dude not known for being particularly good swordsman amongst his brothers, meaning that Alpharius is literally below average.
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>>55294235
No previous thread? You fucked it.
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>>55295853
>Reads old shit
Lol
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>>55295785
>yfw others enjoy playing the game and you haven't incurred enough goodboy points to be left out of your moms church/basement combo.
Also you mad.
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>>55295697
All of the guys I mainly play with are hardcore WAACfags, so much to the point where most "casuals" have refused to play against them. They're fine playing against me tho, since I'm the guy who took landraiders and Dreadnoughts in 7th, only used invisibility in tournaments or against one of my WAACfriends who were fine with it.
Honestly, you learn alot more about playing well and listbuilding if you try to restrain yourself from constantly jumping on the "OP UNIT CLICK HERE TO WIN" train. I use units I like, but I've learned (painfully through many losses) how to use them effectively, how to play to my lists/armies strength and too my opponents weaknesses.
Best example I have of this: One of the Last games of 7th Edition, I played a 2k game of my GKs vs my friends White Scars. His list was specifically tailored to beat me, he had bikes without end, Grav for days (2 fucking Gravcent squads), telepathy and librarians and all that shit. I managed to barely pull out the win by deepstriking on objectives, pulling his support units away from his heavy firepower when he needed it, used gate of infinity to get an edge in mobility on his bikes, hid units on objectives out of LOS so that he would have to come into a range where I could engage in melee, etc...
Also, as much as people complain about WAACfags, I actually usually enjoyed playing against my friends Gravbikespam/RavenwingInvisspam/EldarScatterbikespam/D-flamerwraithspam/yinnari bullshit. Playing against most "casual" players becomes boring for me, especially when I have to purposely hamper my list/ingame decisions in order to give them a fair fight, most of all when its because they just made stupid mistakes when using their units. Playing against really competetive lists, while not leaning on the "OP" units in your own army can really help you learn how to use your army properly.
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Serious question, will I come off as a WAAC fag if I bring Mortarion in 1500 point and higher games? I'm just getting into my local FLGS and I really like the model, but I don't want to be ostracised or anything like that.
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>>55295847
Didn't Guilliman kill Alpharius?
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>>55295847
Thought The Lion was the best dualist/swordsman?
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>>55294235
OP missing damage calc links, isn't it?
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>>55295897
Nah that seems like it's on the cusp of not too much of a dick move. He costs enough to where I don't think it'd be an issue really.
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>>55295785
Holy shit you are one cringy fucking dude.
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>>55295898
He killed "alpharius".
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Is a double storm cannon leviathan worth it?

309 points for a nigh-unkillable machine that spits out 20 S7/AP2/D2 shots sounds badass, can merc almost any light vehicle in one go, and do damn good damage to virtually anything (kills a terminator squad in one go too)

Same question with deredeos, that plasma array looks absolutely meaty
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>>55295785
>lookimprojecting.jpeg
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>>55295903
>The Lion was the best dualist/swordsman
>Gets knocked the fuck out by a peasant
>Sanguinius holds the Eternity Gate alone for several days.

Sanguinius was top tier Primarch.
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>>55295925
At least he's not wrong.
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>>55295785
>tfw actually pretty /fit/
>tfw just starting up college
>tfw about to do a week-long hike through the alps with some friends of mine to celebrate our youth
>missing the point of my post
>not applying critical thinking
>hurrdurr Termies are bad
>not playing models you enjoy, and learning to use those models competetively ingame as to make them worthwhile

I do store my models in my basement tho, so....I guess you got me?
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>>55295898
Even Guilliman himself wasn't sure.
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>>55295753
>google Storm Wardens
>neat color scheme
>neat lore
FUUUUUUU ANON
Why must you make this so hard for me.
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slaanesh daemons:
Keeper of secrets
20 deamonettes
20 Deamonettes
exalted seeker chariot
10 seekers
masque of slaanesh
>50 power level

any good? or am I missing something?
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>>55296059
>power level
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>>55294864
>able?
He also said the Tau should be squatted. Oh hey Riptides I didn't see you over there, how's 8th treating ya?
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>>55296070
do people not use this...
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>>55294984
Maleceptors are still hot garbage. They have nothing worth taking aside from being a meme. A fucking Tervigon does everything it does better.
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>>55295126
3rd edition Witch Hunter.
Hardly a reason to buy stuff when you already had a decade to buy everything your army has trice
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>>55295113
Stanislav von Panzerkampf
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>>55295338
>sword with halfway sensible dimensions

nani the fuck
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>>55295988
>tfw about to do a week-long hike through the alps with some friends of mine to celebrate our youth
Props to you anon, you're only young once abuse your body while you know you can. Not everyone wins the genetic lottery and can do this shit until they're 70
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>>55295235

My Tyranids game was basically this.

>>55294669
Hmmm...I don't have much in the way of thudd guns, but I could do a pure infantry list, no armor at all, with heavy weapons squads as the heavy support options
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>>55295527

Yeah that bitch is getting commissioned.
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>>55296173

>Hmmm...I don't have much in the way of thudd guns, but I could do a pure infantry list, no armor at all, with heavy weapons squads as the heavy support options

meant for:

>>55295320
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>>55296104
You fuckers step off of Reece "burnin man satan jam" robbins. Hes a saint!
He said necrons can get by, and there are viable builds to last until codex.
Never heard him complain about tau. Reeces biggest issues have been w character centric builds.
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>>55296173
Do you have a write up of the Ork vs IG photo you showed earlier?
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>>55295113
They call him Ishmael
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>>55296173
you should do a game with lots of russes that last more than 2 turns, recently played mass TC battle cannon russ list against sisters with good results and want to see someone else try it
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When do the normal death guard models come out?
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>Playing guy at my LGS
>Play Nids
>He plays Bangles
>I realize quickly he is going to lose horribly if I play correctly
>Pretend I forget my psychic phase
>Let him kill my Swarmy and one of my Genestealer broods
>Game ends with him winning by one point since I gave him Slay the Warlord
>He seemed happy after realizing he won even though I nearly tabled him even though I gimped myself
>Feel sort if bad for giving him a pity win essentially
Did I do something bad, /tg/?
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For Grey Knights, should I be painting the gold detailing with Retributor Armor or Balthasar Gold?
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>>55294348
https://e-hentai.org/g/1071617/7bd048817d/
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>>55296256
Did you still have fun?
Then no.
I did something very similar with a SW player a few weeks ago
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dumb question but can the age of sigmar ork models mesh with any of the 40k parts?
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>>55295836
>Oh no space elves
>They have guns it isn't faaaair
>PLEASE NO BULLY :(
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>>55296286
3 gunships nearly took out three primarchs and you bitch about Abaddon not wanting to be cast and shot to shit by Eldar?

Eldar more powerful than the Eldar exodites who had members that fought 1 vs 1 against primarchs.

Racist mentally at it again.
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>>55296283
not really without considerable effort, unfortunately
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>>55295815
Magnus was beaten by this guy.
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>>55295966
He is though, He's acting like a tryhard faggot. And apparently I'm not the only one who agree's. Cringers like him are seriously killing the hobby.
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>>55296334
>Iskandar_Khayon
God this character
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>>55296334
BEGONE, CARNAC
I BANISH THEE BACK FROM WHENCE THOU CAME, FOUL HELLSPAWN
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>>55296358
>Ahriman outsmarts and beats Be'lakor
>nobody says anything

>Khayon will have a novel in the future where he defeats Magnus
>everyone bitches

Double standard much?
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>>55296286
omg chaosfags just cant stop whinning!
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>>55296316
>3 gunships nearly took out three primarchs and you bitch about Abaddon not wanting to be cast and shot to shit by Eldar?

How many does it take to eliminate armless, lol?

Also:
>Organize a huge crusade just to claim your SUPER SPESHUL edgy OC daemon sword
>It's powerless against Bob the Devastator with an ordinary lascannon

Armless the Harmless strikes again!

>Eldar more powerful than the Eldar exodites who had members that fought 1 vs 1 against primarchs.
Ahriman fucking beat them all by himself, Abaddon cucked yet again.

>Racist mentally at it again.
We wuz Chaos n' sheeeit!
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>>55296334
So claims that guy and literally no one else. Magnus told the impotent manlet to piss off when he came knocking, lmao.
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>>55296381
>well established, interesting and liked character beat Be'lashit
>literally who OC donutsteel character beats a fucking primarch
Its like wards Draigowank all over again
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>>55296381
>Ahriman outsmarts and beats Be'lako
Literally everyone does that. Even Abaddon feels better about himself when Be'lacuck shows up
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>>55294595
Look at them, those plebeians paying $500 for a video gaming console?
They buy their console, then their accessories, then their $50 games, for what?
They know not the true joy of gaming, of community, of comradely
We cannot blame these plebeians for their faults, for they are lead by a false prophet

Behold the wargamer, who extract more from their hobby than any other
Did those that came before you not forsee this day? When the masses would be drawn to inferior activities that ravage them in both mind and body?
But we will stop them. We will shed the light. We are the gamers reborn, reincarnated into what we were meant to be
Let it be know that we wargamers are what gamings highest ranking was always meant to be
It is time, we will teach these plebeians what true gaming is like, they will learn that simple truth
The console gamer is not lost, only mislead. They will resist our truth, but I, CAPTAIN VOR, will show them the light!
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>>55296381
Mostly because Be'lakor is a shit. He's a terrible daemon prince from Fantasy they just threw into 40k for some cheap "Oh hey they might be linked together." conspiracy.

Dude was beaten by dinosaurs throwing rocks at him, it's not a big feat to beat him because he's not meant to win.
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>>55296381
Ahriman doesn't have a Dark Eldar girlfriend and a bound demon who are utterly loyal to him or a magic robo demon hand that constantly has demons tell him how much they hate him for being stronger than them.
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Admech player here. How're the big bots in 8th? I'm considering dusting my minis back off and getting into it again after what happened in 7th.
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>>55294235
I know this is a somewhat broad question but who was the artist who inspired a lot of 40k horror designs. His work was the nightmarish/sort of washed out browns and reds
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>>55294537
>>55294810
>not wanting to be the everlasting meat in a Tzeentch/Slaanesh sandwich of lurrve
Peasants.
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>>55296391
>How many does it take to eliminate armless, lol?

The same number probably.

>Armless the Harmless strikes again!

Same can be said about Horus.

>Ahriman fucking beat them all by himself, Abaddon cucked yet again.

Pretty sure he was empowered by the proximity of the Warp and Tzeentchand he didn't beat them in direct battle. He throw them out of the Webway into the Warp.

>We wuz Chaos n' sheeeit!

See? That's what I meant.
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>>55296457
I think you mean our lord and savior
>based John Blanche
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40k threads seem really cancerous lately. I blame the influx of children.
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>>55296487
Dont fret, sweet anon.
Schools almost here, it'll all be over soon.
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>>55296446
>magic robo demon hand that constantly has demons tell him how much they hate him for being stronger than them.
Wait, what?

The fuck is this?
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>>55296381
>guy powerful enough to curse his entire legion defeats a daemon prince that jobs all the time

>OC donut steel defeats the second strongest psyker in the setting

It's almost as if these things are not alike.
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>>55296446
You probably need to read the Ahriman series. He has an Inquisitor waifu literally trapped in his head.

>Dude was beaten by dinosaurs throwing rocks at him

Nope. You can say it as much as you want but it never happened.


>>55296427
>Literally everyone does that.

Name three.

>>55296419
Khayon now is as established as Ahriman.
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>>55296478
john blanche is a perverted hack who sees the world in red, yellow and brown and can only register the existence of women if they're clad in latex

The cover of Gothic and the 3rd ed Rulebook were the only decent pictures he ever did.
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>>55296219

unfortunately no, that was from over a year ago now. We had several Ork / Steel Legion grudge matches over teh summer including a massive 16k point apoc battle.
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>>55296487
Just bad content. /tg/ in general is at its best mathing things out and finding ways to make or break a game. This means that periods of cool releases and updated rules make fantastic threads, but an update drought or general skub really do suck.

S'okay though, there's also been some hilarious stuff recently, the shit just goes along with it. Such is life in the zone

also there's been a notable drop in content website wide since the election began, here it's more ripples and not so bad but on other board it feels like the endless summer has already begun
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>>55296516
>He has an Inquisitor waifu literally trapped in his head.
But she's dead, it's himself and a reflection of his guilt.

So his waifu is literally himself, which is hilarious
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>>55296511
The Rubric isn't a test of power. It's endurance.
And Ahriman couldn't harm Be'lakor so he had to trap him.

>>OC donut steel defeats the second strongest psyker in the setting

Khayon was said by Ahriman himself to be the closet dude in their legion to his power level. Khayon disagrees with Ahriman, implying that Khayon thinks himself to be stronger than Ahriman.
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>>55296516
That shit happened m8. That nigga got beat with rocks. Also Tyranids are a greater threat than chaos now. Time for Nid superiority!!
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>>55296478
>>55296520
It wasn't Blanche, the guy I think I'm thinking of never had a direct hand in 40k but his stuff had associations as an influence
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>>55296516
>khayon is now established
>appears in a random BL novel that most 40k players wont read anyway
>compared to a character who has been in the codex since decades
>E S T A B L I S H E D
Get your ass out of your head, anon.
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>>55296520
that's some shit taste you got their, Blanche made the setting and has one of the coolest visual outlooks in all of fiction. Plus his whole gothic grimdark world obviously has women only in the background or as sex idols, same as men are either servitors or space marines
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>>55296555
I know but it doesn't make her any less of a waifu. His admiration of her cast her in image of the judge most worthy of passing the sentence on his soul.
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Hey guys, could someone point me in the right direction in getting in touch with a re caster that has Sisters? I have looked at yoyhammer and I cant stand that fucking site.

I have seen some 3rd party sisters and none have really looked well and Ebay is barren. Can someone help me out?
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>>55296516
Everyone is more than three guy.
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>>55296472
>The same number probably.

>Chaos needs Abaddon to win
>Carnac just admits a few ordinary Valkyries can easily annihilate him.
The fact that's he too dumb to realize what he just said makes it all the funnier.

>Same can be said about Horus.

Horus: Fight and all but win a conventional war against the Imperium at its height with only dregs and autists to work with
Abaddon: Go on a fucking crusade to get a marginally better pointy stick

>Pretty sure he was empowered by the proximity of the Warp and Tzeentchand he didn't beat them in direct battle. He throw them out of the Webway into the Warp.
Abaddon was standing right by the expanding Eye with Cadia's pylons gone, he had every advanatge. Except brains, skills, or arms.
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>>55296593
She did shoot him with a bullet that is constantly burrowing into his heart.

He has to Iron Man himself to stay alive because of her. I'd respect that kind of fucked up determination to kill me. Though I'd just be fucking dead
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>>55296569
Nah.

>>55296582
He appeared in the modern IA in the Death Company section. He was featured in the Ahriman series as the guy who close to stopping Ahriman Rubric and the guy who punished him for it. Also makes a neat appearance in the finally,

The Black Legion series is going be the Night lords series of this generation so he is gonna be famous as fuck among the newfags.
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>new to 40k
>buy some ork boyz and some storm boyz
>start putting them together
>realize i need to pick what weapons i want
>have no idea what to do

I didn't even think about playing the actual game i just had the models in mind. What do?
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>>55296487
What the FUCK did you call me you fucking faggot?
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>>55294942
Wow that image is fantastic.
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>>55296629
to clarify, I DO plan on playing the game with these boyz I just am not sure whats viable
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>>55296516
>Name three.
Archaon, Abaddon, Alarielle, some random IF Captain, passing Skinks with rocks...
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>>55295918
That was intentional, let old mathhammer die
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>>55296599
Sorry m8, I'll save you some time and say you won't get it here. DESU it ain't worth it though, Z's cool when he does it right, but unreliable as hell and can easily turn up unuseable crap.

Get 3rd party sisters, either kitbash stuff or the fantastic Russian kits, and go from there. MI is the best recaster and I don't think they do sisters
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when is the tsons codex coming out?
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>>55296647
Possibly December
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>>55296454
NEW CODEX
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>>55295338
>tfw no tsundere berserker GF
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>>55296613
>The fact that's he too dumb to realize what he just said makes it all the funnier.

They can shoot him up if he isn't careful to dodge so what's the problem?

>Horus: Fight and all but win a conventional war against the Imperium at its height with only dregs and autists to work with

Wrong. Exaggeration and distortion of the fluff.

>Abaddon: Go on a fucking crusade to get a marginally better pointy stick

Wrong. Drach'nyen was one objective of the First Black Crusade, Refer to the Black Legion supplement and novel.

>Abaddon was standing right by the expanding Eye with Cadia's pylons gone, he had every advanatge

Wrong. Eye stopped expanding after it ate Cadia. We have the maps with us. The Cadian Gate still exists and GW did not explain why.
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>>55296657
They have one? Or they're getting one? Because I couldn't find one and I don't wanna wait.
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>>55296638
Build em how you want, your first models should be all about what you like. Nobody actually cares about WYSIWYG, it's more of a "yeah, super cool it's all exactly as it looks" thing.

But generally foightin' is best, choppin is toppin
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>>55296645

Any suggestion on 3rd party?
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>>55296676
so from what i'm seeing here, "do what you like but choppaz are nice"
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>>55296639
>Archaon

Did not outsmart Be'lakor. It was the other way around.Archaon however defeated Be'lakor in their duel.

>Abaddon

Not yet.

>Alarielle

Did not fight or interact with Be'lakor at all until he was captured.

>some random IF Captain

Didn't outsmart him. The Chaos Gods fucked Be'lakor over for no good raisen.

>passing Skinks with rocks...

Portals and phasers.

Failure!
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>>55296686

Wargame exclusive
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>Carnac has joined
Well it was a good thread while it lasted, see ya space cowboys
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>>55296316
Go to bed, Carnac.
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>>55296667
up for preorder next sat
thought it was this sat but it wasnt and now im frustrated
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>>55296667
End of this month, alongside death guard
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>>55296687
Bingo
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>>55296703
After dinner.
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>>55296686
Raging heroes are putting out some new !not sisters soon.
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Do you guys build your chaos terminators shooty or choppy?
>pic unrelated
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>>55296457
Blanche, Jes Goodwin, Adrian Smith, Mark Gibbons are quintessential 40k, and warhammer in general.

There's many more, and some others who have contributed a large body of work that I can't remember the name of. But those to me are the big 4.
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>>55296730
slaaneshi combi plasmas
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Friendly reminder Carnac thinks people here actually like him and support his shitposting unironically, avoiding the real truth that everyone on here knows he's cancer and can't wait for him to move on or give up his shotposting
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>>55296740
Wayne England did a lot of iconic 40k art as well.
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>>55296666
>They can shoot him up if he isn't careful to dodge so what's the problem?

>Terminator Armor
>Dodge

>Wrong. Exaggeration and distortion of the fluff.
Horus faced down the Emperor. Abaddon couldn't face down ordinary humans with lasguns, lel.

>Wrong. Drach'nyen was one objective of the First Black Crusade, Refer to the Black Legion supplement and novel.
I'll use the actual fluff instead.

>Fight a war around Cadia
>Lose
>But it's okay because I grabbed a pointy stick while no one was looking

>Wrong. Eye stopped expanding after it ate Cadia. We have the maps with us.
The great rift comes out of it you mong.
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>>55296754
I know that deep down in your heart, you love the hell outta me <3. Your reverse physiology is working, anon. I get the message!
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>>55296454
The Kastellans in the index rules are pretty good, mang. 18 Str shots each good, with some AP for giggles.

Who knows what changes will come with the codex; so far we've seen mostly points drops from index to codex. The big things to expect are stratagems, and FW specific traits
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>>55296743
>one squad probably only once per game
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>>55296696
Excuse you, Third Company Captain Tor Garadon totally matters - he even got to be a named character for a bit! ...you can even still give people his slightly above average bolt pistol! That's about as important as we imperial fists get!
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>>55296766
The entire point of Terminator armour is not having to dodge.

But then you always have those retards that model their terminators without a helmet. REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Adrian Smith did kickass Chaos art.
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how FUN would it be to toss fabulous bill into a foot-slogging world eaters army, seems like it could be good but 109 points seems a little costly. Also has anyone tried any forgeworld stuff? I kind of want to grab a scorpius but nobody I know bothers with FW stuff and I'm not sure if I want to open up that can of worms.
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>>55296766
>>Dodge

Gabriel Angelos. Also Calgar.

>Horus faced down the Emperor. Abaddon couldn't face down ordinary humans with lasguns, lel.

Horus couldn't face down marines with bolters!

>I'll use the actual fluff instead.

You are using the abridged version it, What a dishonest little shit you are.

>>Lose

Achieved their objective that's highlighted in the sources I mentioned.

>The great rift comes out of it you mong.

Fucking retard the Great Rift goes in the other direction. The Cadian Gate had no to little growth in its direction.
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>>55296758
Yes! Thank you I knew I was forgetting one. I'm a big fan of his stuff.

There's a lot actually present in the 8th ed book, which surprised me.
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>>55296775
its slaanesh yo
bring excess units to plasma all the things
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>>55296794
What is that even a drawing off? I can't find anything that might fit in the CSM codex :^)
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>>55296774
Sweet, I was thinking about getting those.

Ont hat note, what would good options be for modeling Agripinaa in the fluff? It's only appropriate that they're coming out with Death Guard.

For those who don't know, Agripinaa is currently sitting right next to Typhus' main base, and doing its best. It's the forge world that previously supplied Cadia, though obviously that's not a thing anymore with cadia in pieces and a daemon world. I'd imagine a lot of enclosed shit and rebreathers, since Nurgle?
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>>55296841
nigga...
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>>55296853
Sorry, I had to.
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>>55296841
every day, my nihilism grows in strength.

it has come to be expected.
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>>55296696
>Loses every single encounter with anything, ever
>"H-He's so smart guys! Why doesn't anyone believe me?"

>The Chaos Gods fucked Be'lakor over for no good raisen.

>"Give me infinite free resources forever! I'm too retarded to use tactics so all mine are dead!"
>"Fuck you, no. We like winners."
>"HOW COULD YOU BETRAY ME LIKE THIS?!"
>*Punched in the nuts by IF captains, runs away screaming like a little girl*
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>>55296787
>>When it gets totally lame and droll killing mewling lapdogs of the corpse emperor with no chance of ever being in danger, so you take off your helmet in combat so you can once again feel the visceral thrill of warmaking as it drums savage blood through your twinned black hearts.
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>>55296841
Don't even know Dark Angels when you see em
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>>55296876
>>Loses every single encounter with anything, ever

Mostly because of the interference of the Chaos Gods who keep ruining his plans. But prior to the last steps of his plans, his plans go smoothly.

>>"Give me infinite free resources forever! I'm too retarded to use tactics so all mine are dead!"

The Imperial Fists were getting overrun. He did not foresee the coming of the LotD. It's not his fault. It's the fault of the Chaos Gods who denied him aid to confront this new enemy. He is their firstborn son and they fucked him over.
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Reminder that telling Carnac to go back to >>>/lgbt/ is the best way to deal with him.
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>>55296645
>MI is the best
I like MI, but I wouldn't go that far.
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>>55296520
i see no problem with this, thinking with your dick and nightmares pulls out good results in art
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>>55295773
you duncecap you can still fucking do that
fucking phone posters i swear to shite
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>>55296819
>Gabriel Angelos. Also Calgar
Literally neither of them can move very fast, much less enough to dodge lascannons

>Horus couldn't face down marines with bolters!
Horus kills them and wins the battle like a chad.

Abaddon runs away screaming and hides in his room like a cuck, then is too stupid to have his massive warship bombard the Eldar/Imperials while they just stand in the open for hours.

>You are using the abridged version it, What a dishonest little shit you are.
Using the actual GW version of events rather than the land of backflipping Terminators? Gosh I sure feel bad.

>Achieved their objective that's highlighted in the sources I mentioned.
>Objective is a useless pointy stick

>Fucking retard the Great Rift goes in the other direction. The Cadian Gate had no to little growth in its direction.
The Cadian Gate is literally surrounded by the Eye on all but one side, cretin.
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>>B-but I couldn't plan for the unexpected! This was very unlikely to happen and I had no plan for it! It's not my fault!
Shoulda brought the guys who stubbornly make excessive amounts of plans for every conceivable situation and then make even more plans instead of the dweebs who can't stop getting super babby angry about being told ten thousand years ago that the aforementioned planners are better than them at the thing they wish they were better at.
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>>55296520
>>saying these as bad things
>>trash talking my boy john blanche
I will fight you, anon! You and I are in a fight now!
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>>55296754
>>55296772
Seriously, I enjoy Carnac. It's fun to play the "Where's Waldo"-esque game of identifying when the posts go off the rails. Never change, friend.
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>>55297007
>Literally neither of them can move very fast, much less enough to dodge lascannons

Can jump around and dash forward.

>Horus kills them and wins the battle like a chad.

Nope, totally dies. Last time it happened he was bloodied and crying over morty.

>Using the actual GW version of events rather than the land of backflipping Terminators? Gosh I sure feel bad.

Except that the Blck Legion supplement is GW, doffus

>>Objective is a useless pointy stick

Okay, ignoring the fluff just means you intentionally throwing the argument.

>The Cadian Gate is literally surrounded by the Eye on all but one side, cretin.

And how does it disprove that I said that there is no growth towards its direction? Dumbass.
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>>55297026
>Shoulda brought the guys who stubbornly make excessive amounts of plans for every conceivable situation and then make even more plans instead of the dweebs who can't stop getting super babby angry about being told ten thousand years ago that the aforementioned planners are better than them at the thing they wish they were better at.

Don't worry. Be'lakor is known to have many plans up his sleeves. The Iron Warriors and the Chaos Gods failed him but Be'lakor will see this galaxy ushered towards its finally destiny. It's his purpose.

>>55297067
See? These kind of posts are what makes all of this worth it!
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>>55297118
>I demand CSM Khorne Sorcerers.

They would work like the Slaughterpriests in AoS.

And I vaguly remember Grimnir jumping at Magnus to cleave him with his axe or am I misremembering?
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>>55297073
If everything from 40k video games is also canon now I demand chaos marine khorne sorcerers.
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>>55296993
yeah, totally.

dumbass.
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>>55296918
>Mostly because of the interference of the Chaos Gods who keep ruining his plans. But prior to the last steps of his plans, his plans go smoothly.

>"My plans are perfect except that part where they universally go down in flames while I get beaten into jelly."
WTF I have been converted. Praise Be'lakor, patron daemon of getting shit on by absolutely everyone.

>The Imperial Fists were getting overrun. He did not foresee the coming of the LotD. It's not his fault

>Doesn't know the first thing about military strategy
>Gets all his Iron Warrior allies killed
>Blithely assumes there's no such thing as enemy reinforcements
>Served Chaos for millennia but has yet to notice embarrassing losers just piss them off
>Displays the tactical acumen of a retarded monkey throwing shit at a wall
>Can't even fight off a regular Space Marine
HE'S SO SMART GUYS WHY DOES NO ONE BELIEVE ME REEEEE
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>>55297154
Blood Pact have Gore Mages.
More blood rituals pleaze Khorne
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just as a confirmation, since that's how I did it:

you can order "First Rank Fire! Second Rank Fire!" as many times as you have commands available, as long as a unit gets only 1 buff per turn, right?

I was giving the order with all 3 of my units today, since I had 4 orders available.
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>>55297166
>>Gets all his Iron Warrior allies killed

The IF tearing their own space fortress apart is totally his fault.

>>Blithely assumes there's no such thing as enemy reinforcements

How the fuck can mortal reinforcements come to help in the Warp?

>>Doesn't know the first thing about military strategy

Only a handful of IF left. There was no point in strategy. He wanted to get this over with.

>>Can't even fight off a regular Space Marine

He can kill marines as easily as breathing. The most logical thing that happened is that he had to flee before they ganged up on him and destroyed his physical form.
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>>55297219
>>torn apart
The phalanx seemed to work just fine blasting apart Abaddon's entire shitty fleet at Cadia an hour after beating Be'lakor's dumb ass
>>How
How uncommon is that in 40k, really?
>>Handful of IF left
More like a moderate amount of just third company left: he already smallest, recovering company of the fists at that time. This before being entirely reinforced by Primaris.

Couldn't even board a literal ship full of fucking scouts with the help of his trash allies.
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>>55297073
>Can jump around and dash forward.
Gabriel's biggest feat is jumping like three feet in the air.

>Nope, totally dies. Last time it happened he was bloodied and crying over morty.
Morty tanks a Shadowsword Titan-killer hit then kills it him himself.

Notice Carnac doesn't even try to excuse Armless' failure to utilize his gigantic fucking battleship parked in orbit.

>Except that the Blck Legion supplement is GW, doffus
And the codex is newer GW.

>Okay, ignoring the fluff just means you intentionally throwing the argument.
Literally can't do anything about regular guns.

>And how does it disprove that I said that there is no growth towards its direction? Dumbass.
Previous images have it in *front* of Cadia rather than surrounding it, retard.
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>>55297116
>Don't worry. Be'lakor is known to have many plans up his sleeves.
He should stick to something more on his level, like trying to steal a little girl's lollipop. Then again she'd probably beat the snot out of him with it.

>The Iron Warriors and the Chaos Gods failed him but Be'lakor will see this galaxy ushered towards its finally destiny. It's his purpose.
His purpose is literally to get beaten to a pulp to make other people look more badass. Over and over and over again, forever.
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>>55297277
>Gabriel's biggest feat is jumping like three feet in the air.

Other terminator characters have been shown to make dash or jumps.

>Morty tanks a Shadowsword Titan-killer hit then kills it him himself.

No, he and Horus were saved by Fulgrim's shield.. If Fulgrim wasn't around, they would have been killed.

>Notice Carnac doesn't even try to excuse Armless' failure to utilize his gigantic fucking battleship parked in orbit.

Bad writing is bad writing.

>And the codex is newer GW.

Except its the abridged version for the timeline, The older source covers the event in its entirety. You know this but pretending to be a retard.

>Literally can't do anything about regular guns.

But can kill the shit of the Emperor and is a killer weapon in duels.

>Previous images have it in *front* of Cadia rather than surrounding it, retard.

Again, you fail to disprove what I said about it growing no where into the Cadian Gate past Cadia.
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>>55297272
>The phalanx seemed to work just fine blasting apart Abaddon's entire shitty fleet at Cadia an hour after beating Be'lakor's dumb ass

Irrelevant. It lost a sizeable portion of its mass.

>How uncommon is that in 40k, really?

Not very common. Never happened like ever.

>More like a moderate amount of just third company left: he already smallest, recovering company of the fists at that time. This before being entirely reinforced by Primaris.

The scouts were being overrun before the LotD came in. The stunt they pulled at the start alongside the Legion intervention saved their asses.

>>55297310
>He should stick to something more on his level, like trying to steal a little girl's lollipop. Then again she'd probably beat the snot out of him with it.

Nah, his mission is to orchestrate the end of the setting.

>His purpose is literally to get beaten to a pulp to make other people look more badass.

He isn't an avatar dude.
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>>55297219
>The IF tearing their own space fortress apart is totally his fault.
Didn't know the first fucking thing about the Fists.

>How the fuck can mortal reinforcements come to help in the Warp?
Allegedly super knowledgable. Knows nothing about the Emperor's daemons.

>Only a handful of IF left. There was no point in strategy. He wanted to get this over with.
He didn't use any strategy, and there was only a green rookiee company left after actually competent villains wiped out the previous iteration.

>He can kill marines as easily as breathing. The most logical thing that happened is that he had to flee before they ganged up on him and destroyed his physical form.
LOL, that's why Garoden beat him up, right?
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>55295157

>>55295458 gave good advice. It is difficult to beat most armies when your opponent has a wide range of models to use and you only have what you own. Here's some more tips from a Dark Angels player of 15+ years:
*Azrael's Lion Helm grants a 4++ save for all MODELS within 6". While that means a single marine within the bubble can take a high AP shot for his unit, it also means that no one else in the unit gets the 4++ save if they aren't in the bubble. Unfortunately, this means the "proper" way to play with the Lion Helm is to take the 4++ saves one at a time and as soon as there are no more models within range, that unit stops getting the invuln save. Note, though, that a Predator or Dreadnought only needs a toe in the bubble to benefit from the Helm, as models do not need to be "fully within" the 6" bubble.

*When Azrael is in a transport, the Lion Helm goes away. This means that, if he wants to benefit from the Helm, Azrael and the units he is babysitting need to be footslogging it across the board. In a deathmatch, this doesn't matter so much. But in a game with objectives, the 6" advance can be a real handicap.

*While you are a playing a chapter more dedicated to close combat than the Dark Angels, as you've noticed, their HQs and special units (Knights and Black Knights, for example) are no slouches in the Fight phase, especially against multi-wound opponents. Unless I've made a serious tactical error, the only times my HQs have bit the dust has been getting shot up or blasted by psykers, not in melee. Some scout sniper rifles or well-placed Smite castings will be far more effective against his HQs and Elites than even a dedicated close combat unit.

*The Darkshroud can be frustrating, but it is made of paper. Target it with your anti-vehicle fire first and remove the bubble buff it provides. You've probably already figured this out, but you'd be surprised how many opponents decide to ignore it and focus on hotter targets.

Hope this helps!
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>>55297116
I've sparred with you before about Nids; we don't have to get into that now. But I've got to say, with your ability to cite your sources, you could be a fucking graduate student in the humanities -- I mean that as a compliment. You're the master at dredging up the facts you need.
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>>55297334
>Other terminator characters have been shown to make dash or jumps.
No significant distances, and no meaningful ability to dodge lascannons.

>No, he and Horus were saved by Fulgrim's shield.. If Fulgrim wasn't around, they would have been killed.
Says literally you.

>Bad writing is bad writing
BUT IT DOESN"T REFLECT ON ABADDON BECAUSE I SAID SO REEEE

>But can kill the shit of the Emperor and is a killer weapon in duels.
It's funny because Horus was the one do that and a full-powered Big E would rape Armless so fast I'd almost feel sorry for him.

>Again, you fail to disprove what I said about it growing no where into the Cadian Gate past Cadia.
And again you fail to disprove anything about the actual point, showing that they were surrounded by the Immaterium bleeding into reality and Abaddon has no excuse for failing thrice where Ahriman succeed on his first try.

He's just a cowardly bitch like the rest of his pathetic curs.
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If dodging lascannons is on the table, why bother with armor?
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>>55297420
That's just the same picture of Be'lacuck he throws out every other thread like it means something.
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>>55297367
The phalanx is so fucking huge it doesn't even matter if it loses a chunk of itself for narrative purposes, it still clearly kicks ass; not expecting random, unexpected shit happening in the warp is like walking outside in a thunderstorm and expecting to stay dry, as well as >>55297368 's point, and MY point is that Belakor effectively killed some fresh recruits of one company who were immediately replaced with double size marines, put dent in the phalanx, and got both his own ass and the asses of his iron warrior friends thoroughly kicked for the express purpose of accomplishing nothing of impact.

Like he always does. Because he's just the daemon prince of losing-undivided. Shit, even Abaddon sets little goals and accomplishes them.
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>>55297435
>No significant distances, and no meaningful ability to dodge lascannons.

They can dodge blows from supernaturally fast daemons but somehow cannot detect the trajectory of mortal weapons fired by mortals...yeaah.

>Says literally you.

The passage shows this. The first attack run has them dead to rights and hammered them. Fulgrim saved them with his shield and when it went down we saaw what kind of damage these craft can do a to a primarch. Morty lost his hand and got KO'ed.

>BUT IT DOESN"T REFLECT ON ABADDON BECAUSE I SAID SO REEEE

The WD article about FoC said they wrote the event in such that Abaddon had to land and fight despite there being no reason to, in order make the setting more intense and fun.

It's bad writing, bruh.

>It's funny because Horus was the one do that and a full-powered Big E would rape Armless so fast I'd almost feel sorry for him.

Nah, There isn't a single being in the setting that can defeat a person holding Drach'nyen in a duel.

>And again you fail to disprove anything about the actual point, showing that they were surrounded by the Immaterium bleeding into reality and Abaddon has no excuse for failing thrice where Ahriman succeed on his first try.

Except you cited that Rift as empowering Abaddon which isn't the case. The Rift did not expand into the Cadian Gate. It's light years away from that snowball planet. You are wrong.
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>>55297367
>Nah, his mission is to orchestrate the end of the setting
Then he's even more doomed because he's trying to take on a force infinitely more powerful than the Chaos Gods: Marine sales.

>He isn't an avatar dude.
You're right, even Avatars occasionally win something.
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>>55297368
>Didn't know the first fucking thing about the Fists.

I demand citation of IF using suicidal and burned earth tactics.

>Allegedly super knowledgable. Knows nothing about the Emperor's daemons.

These guys are a mystery even to Chaos dudes.

>He didn't use any strategy,

The text said he abandoned all strategy because the battle was all but won. He had the daemons bumrushing the Fists.

>LOL, that's why Garoden beat him up, right?

Him and those ghost marines.

>>55297486
>it still clearly kicks ass; not expecting random, unexpected shit happening in the warp is like walking outside in a thunderstorm and expecting to stay dry, as well as >>55297368 's point, and MY point is that Belakor effectively killed some fresh recruits of one company who were immediately replaced with double size marines, put dent in the phalanx, and got both his own ass and the asses of his iron warrior friends thoroughly kicked for the express purpose of accomplishing nothing of impact.

What was expected is unaligned and aligned daemons joining in for the feast alongside the daemons slaved to Be'lakor. The LotD arrival was not something anyone would have saw happening. This is a testament to how much the Chaos Gods screwed with Be'lakor. They barred even the natural fauna of the Warp and their non-engaged daemons to attack the Phalanx based on their own hunger. Be'lakor was betrayed in every aspect of the word.
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>>55297529
>You're right, even Avatars occasionally win something.

Name some Avatar victories. I know some but I would be impressed if you can name any.

>Then he's even more doomed because he's trying to take on a force infinitely more powerful than the Chaos Gods: Marine sales.

Nothing lasts forever.
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>>55297520
>They can dodge blows from supernaturally fast daemons but somehow cannot detect the trajectory of mortal weapons fired by mortals...yeaah.
Except they don't. They tank them. That's the whole damn point of Terminator Armor.

>The passage shows this. The first attack run has them dead to rights and hammered them. Fulgrim saved them with his shield and when it went down we saaw what kind of damage these craft can do a to a primarch. Morty lost his hand and got KO'ed.
Bad writing, dude. ;)

>It's bad writing, bruh.
"Events only count when I like them."

>Nah, There isn't a single being in the setting that can defeat a person holding Drach'nyen in a duel.
Your headcannon is both predictable and tedious. Completely unsourced and a result of your usual wild leaps in logic.

Also neither Abaddon nor his worthless sword could do anything to block Greyfax's psychic attack. The Emperor would pop the worthless maggot's head before he even took one step forward.

>Except you cited that Rift as empowering Abaddon which isn't the case. The Rift did not expand into the Cadian Gate. It's light years away from that snowball planet. You are wrong.
The rift fucking ate Cadia. The Cadian system is not lightyears across you terminal retard.

Also, pic related.
>WHERE ARE YOUR DARK GODS NOW?
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>>55294561
Thanks for the cool battle reports anon
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So I just finished my first squad of scarab Terminators for my pure, fluffy Thousand Sons

I have Magnus and Ahriman, and another squad of rubrics, but aside from the Horrors I need to pick up and build/paint, what else should I get to finish this army?

Currently I have:
>Magnus
>Ahriman
>20 rubrics
>5 scarab occult terminators
with plans for(just for summoning):
>10 pink horrors
>20 blue horrors
>20 pairs of brimstone horrors

More scarabs?
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>>55297602
>Name some Avatar victories. I know some but I would be impressed if you can name any.
Mutual kill with Skarbrand would be a notable one. Certainly more than Be'lakor ever managed.

>Nothing lasts forever.
Including your beloved Chaos dick-sucking.
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>>55297629
>Except they don't. They tank them. That's the whole damn point of Terminator Armor.

Except they did.

>Bad writing, dude. ;)

Not really. Primarchs being ambushed and having chunks blown off of them makes sense.

Abaddon not glassing the planet makes no sense.

>"Events only count when I like them."

Don't throw words in my mouth.

>Also neither Abaddon nor his worthless sword could do anything to block Greyfax's psychic attack. The Emperor would pop the worthless maggot's head before he even took one step forward.

Except Abaddon lost the power and protection of the Chaos Gods at the point and Drach'nyen was shown to suffer in the presence of Nulls. You just screwed yourself.

>Your headcannon is both predictable and tedious.

Nope, Drach'nyen is too powerful for even the Emperor to destroy.

>The rift fucking ate Cadia. The Cadian system is not lightyears across you terminal retard.

Was the OC snowball planet IN the Cadian system? I don't think so. Even then the Ridt wasn't anywhere near the planet.

>Also, pic related.

You know what? I think I will start make a collection of all the quotes that say that the BL were courageous and disciplined in the GS series. They were many.
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>>55297693
>Mutual kill with Skarbrand would be a notable one.

You disappoint me. That's not even a victory. There at least three in the fluff.

>Including your beloved Chaos dick-sucking.

Doubtful. It will last until the setting ends. By the way, prepare to be cucked in "Devastation of Baal" . A few months until we know how the Tyranids screwed that one.
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>>55297657

Always a pleasure. They're fun to put together.
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>>55297673
pic related
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>>55297698
>Except they did.
Then prove it.

>Not really. Primarchs being ambushed and having chunks blown off of them makes sense.
>Abaddon not glassing the planet makes no sense.
Sure it does, once you remind yourself that Abaddon is a second-rate leftover toady and always will be.

>Don't throw words in my mouth.
You tried to claim that a clear example of Abaddon being an impotent moron in a GW fluffbook doesn't prove anything on the strength of you not liking it.

>Except Abaddon lost the power and protection of the Chaos Gods at the point and Drach'nyen was shown to suffer in the presence of Nulls. You just screwed yourself.
Greyfax still had psychic powers. Abaddon was able to teleport out a few moments later. You're telling me she's stronger and a telepprtarium more connected to the Warp than Drach'nyen?

>Nope, Drach'nyen is too powerful for even the Emperor to destroy.
Bad writing is bad, bruh.

And that says nothing about it's ability to win duels considering it lost he one it was in.

>Was the OC snowball planet IN the Cadian system? I don't think so
Then you're even stupider than usual. Abaddon went on his autistic screeching rampage and shot down Cawl's ship before they could break to the Warp. The planet is in the Cadian system.

>You know what? I think I will start make a collection of all the quotes that say that the BL were courageous and disciplined in the GS series. They were many.
This should be amusing.

>"We're so brave!"
>"That's why we shit ourselves and run while loyalists Know No Fear"
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>>55297816
Hahahahahha that posing is just ridiculous
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>>55297586
>>screwed by the chaos gods
>>breaking rule number one of displeasing the chaos gods, taking their gifts for granted
I went back and re read this, and was honestly a bit surprised to find that Be'lakor wasn't even screwed over, he totally bonered himself like a moron. He literally got so childishly pissy about his idiot plans not succeeding that he carelessly wasted all of his current gifts of daemons and resources, smug and confident that he would get more - the exact thing that champions of chaos are always punished for. What a fucking surprise, the gods look down at this pompous weakling wasting their essences unnecessarily and gloating at his sure victory that he cannot win with his own power and they cut his ass off.

Also the legion of the damned may have shot up his daemons, but Gardon beat his asshole in for real, I mean that description of his asshole getting beaten is just embarrassing. I am embarrassed for Be'lakor. He could not have failed harder and it's almost entirely his own fault. I'll even give you that it's very unlikely the legion of the damned or any other force could have intervened at the critical hour to save the imperial palace from orbital bombardment (c'mon) but even with their arrival, he still lost of his own petulant rages, lack of discipline, and weak, squishy body that is most likely a result of eating pints of ice cream and crying.

Also for real, when it comes to the decision between sacrificing literally anything and killing iron warriors, the imperial fists have always chosen the latter. The only reason they and the iron warriors are both still alive is because the ultramarines butted in.
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>>55297837
plsnobully
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>>55297722
>Doubtful. It will last until the setting ends. By the way, prepare to be cucked in "Devastation of Baal" . A few months until we know how the Tyranids screwed that one.
It's funny because Chaos is getting cucked on Konor right now AND both Guilliman and the Swarmlord rape Armless on the tabletop.

And he's still a finecrap manlet, lol.
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>>55297823
>Then prove it.

Grimnir's leap at Magnus.

>Sure it does, once you remind yourself that Abaddon is a second-rate leftover toady and always will be.
>You tried to claim that a clear example of Abaddon being an impotent moron in a GW fluffbook doesn't prove anything on the strength of you not liking it.

You cheeky little cunt. I just had to re-read that bit. It says that Abaddon wanted to claim what was on that ship. That's must be the reason why he didn't want to blow up the place.

>Greyfax still had psychic powers. Abaddon was able to teleport out a few moments later. You're telling me she's stronger and a telepprtarium more connected to the Warp than Drach'nyen?

Don't continue to be cheeky little cunt. The favour of the Chaos Gods drained away from Abaddon as per the text. The Chaos Gods were said to be blind to what's going on. There was little Warp around enough to sustain the most resilient of daemons but not enough to broadcast the Chaos Gods power.

>Bad writing is bad, bruh.

Nothing ADB writes is bad.

>And that says nothing about it's ability to win duels considering it lost he one it was in.

He didn't. The Emperor threw him inside a Custard and fled. The Emperor forfeited the fight.

>Then you're even stupider than usual. Abaddon went on his autistic screeching rampage and shot down Cawl's ship before they could break to the Warp. The planet is in the Cadian system.

But not close to the Ridt to matter. The Navigator as they arrived near that snowball said that Warp is clear enough to travel through. eaning NO GREAT RIFT NEARBY TO SCREW WITH THEIR SIGHT.

>This should be amusing.

Amazing to see how else you lied about.
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>>55297881
Actually, Konor is the prelude for Morty's second invasion of Maccrage. Expect more Chaos content in the future.
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>>55297915
I have to wonder how GW is going to handle releasing new units whenever they do shit like this. We were supposed to be reducing the number of books needed but they aren't doing how they solved it with AoS by releasing unit profiles for free.
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>>55297915
Watching him lose over and over again will be most amusing.
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>>55297971
>implying they won't give Chaos a consultation prize for the bullshit that was Konor
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>>55297971
>Chaos
>Lose

fucking kek m9
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>>55296563
>Khayon was said by Ahriman himself to be the closet dude in their legion to his power level. Khayon disagrees with Ahriman, implying that Khayon thinks himself to be stronger than Ahriman.
Are you literally too stupid to get the criticisms they're making?
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>>55297895
>Grimnir's leap at Magnus.
Jumped off a high rock and went downwards.

>You cheeky little cunt. I just had to re-read that bit. It says that Abaddon wanted to claim what was on that ship. That's must be the reason why he didn't want to blow up the place.
That must be why they stood around in the open for hours in front of an open Webway gate and he didn't even try to come back, right? Lmao.

>Don't continue to be cheeky little cunt. The favour of the Chaos Gods drained away from Abaddon as per the text. The Chaos Gods were said to be blind to what's going on. There was little Warp around enough to sustain the most resilient of daemons but not enough to broadcast the Chaos Gods power.
So basically either Drach'nyen won't help Abaddon or Greyfax is stronger than it. What a shitty sword indeed.

>Nothing ADB writes is bad.
Your dick-sucking is impressive, I'm someone will notice your talents someday. :)

>He didn't. The Emperor threw him inside a Custard and fled. The Emperor forfeited the fight.
Sticks him inside a sword (where he's still stuck 10k years later) then gives him the boot.

THE EMPEROR LOST THE DUEL REEEE

Abaddon fled from some Eldar, lmao.

>But not close to the Ridt to matter. The Navigator as they arrived near that snowball said that Warp is clear enough to travel through. eaning NO GREAT RIFT NEARBY TO SCREW WITH THEIR SIGHT.
Cadian system is literally on the edge of the Eye and it was boiling over larger than ever before.

>Amazing to see how else you lied about.

>Posts direct cap of "muh brave BL" cowering from Guilliman then running away
>"Y-You're lying!"
Top kek.
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>>55298068
criticisms? Explain yourself.
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>>55298095
>Jumped off a high rock and went downwards.

Still a leap and Abaddon dodged a kick from Kharn.

>That must be why they stood around in the open for hours in front of an open Webway gate and he didn't even try to come back, right? Lmao.

The Eldar arrival was an expected and he had no reason to believe the unthinkable would happen and humanity would reach an understanding with the Eldar. He was probably marshalling his forces for another go to claim his prize.

The point is that YOU LIED.

>So basically either Drach'nyen won't help Abaddon or Greyfax is stronger than it. What a shitty sword indeed.

Drach'nyen will not protect Abaddon who is its jailer as much as its user. It will kill for him but it will not protect him. In fact, in the TT, if Abaddon drew upon the power of Drach'nyen there is a chance it will turn against him.

>THE EMPEROR LOST THE DUEL REEEE

DRACH'NYEN IS THE SWORD, IDIOT. It shapeshifted into a SWORD.

He was winning the battle against the daemons then forfeited the fight against Drach'nyen. If the Emperor was that sure about the binding of Drach'nyen, he wouldn't have fled the Webway and doomed mankind.

Heck, we know that Drach'nyen broke free from the Custard at some point because we know it's in its sword form that it used to stab the Emperor in MOM when Abaddon found it.

>>"Y-You're lying!"

You were proven to gave lied and omitted the fact that Abaddon wanted that fancy armour AMONG OTHER THINGS.
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>>55298098
Khayon is a dude that came pretty much out of nowhere and claimed to have made one of the most pivotal characters in 40k kneel, while having edgy so awesome character traits. It's like the definition of a fanfic OC. Saying "He's just as powerful as Ahriman, maybe more!" is not only missing the point, but hell, maybe even inverting it.

Picture, if you will, an upcoming character in a BL book that was Abaddon's ensign behind the scenes and had a Necron glaive he reforged with his mind and an adoring Tau sex slave or some shit. He waltz onto the page and says "You wondering where Angron was? Lol yeah I just beat his ass and told him to come kneel at our feet, should be arriving any second now". If anyone were to complain, saying "but it's okay because he's super strong and special" is the opposite of an argument.
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>>55298235
Please. Tell me how is Khayon is vastly different than Honsou or Draigo for example. Khayon is par the course for 40K characters. If he was in a codex, then you wouldn't haven risen as much of a stink about him.
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>>55298178
>The Eldar arrival was an expected and he had no reason to believe the unthinkable would happen and humanity would reach an understanding with the Eldar. He was probably marshalling his forces for another go to claim his prize.
So he's not smart enough to consider that the Eldar might just snatch the prize themselves and bolt into the swirly portal literally right behind them? Also Eldar and Imperium fighting Chaos together is hardly unprecedented and he ought to know that.

>The point is that YOU LIED.
I pointed to an example of Abaddon running away screaming and not coming back nor using any of his alleged tactical skills. He literally went "charge n' shit" three times, realized most of his men were dead, then scampered like a whipped cur and didn't come back.

>>55298178
>Drach'nyen will not protect Abaddon who is its jailer as much as its user. It will kill for him but it will not protect him. In fact, in the TT, if Abaddon drew upon the power of Drach'nyen there is a chance it will turn against him.
So in other words the Emperor would pop his head easily because the sword would make no effort to help? Okay, thanks for acknowledging the obviously.

>>55298178
>Drach'nyen will not protect Abaddon who is its jailer as much as its user.
>Heck, we know that Drach'nyen broke free from the Custard at some point because we know it's in its sword form that it used to stab the Emperor in MOM when Abaddon found it.
If it's not trapped then why doesn't it take a new form, kill Abaddon, then make a beeline for the Imperial Palace so it can fail miserably just like Khorne's chumps did?

>You were proven to gave lied and omitted the fact that Abaddon wanted that fancy armour AMONG OTHER THINGS.
Except you proved nothing and just made armless look dumber and dumber. If he wanted the armor there was a gigantic Webway gate right there so either move it or (as actually happened) lose it. Once again, impotent moron.
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>>55298303
>>same as draigo
Huh. That's a pretty good point, desu.

Shit even Khayon doesn't solo KILL a daemon primarch.
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>>55298343
>So he's not smart enough to consider that the Eldar might just snatch the prize themselves and bolt into the swirly portal literally right behind them?

Then it would solve his problem because he didn't want that package anywhere near Ultramar.

>lso Eldar and Imperium fighting Chaos together is hardly unprecedented and he ought to know that.

But usually full of backstabbing and consider who was on the snowball. A lot of puritan Imperials who wouldn't have allied with the Eldar even in the most direst of situations normally.

>I pointed to an example of Abaddon running away screaming and not coming back nor using any of his alleged tactical skills. He literally went "charge n' shit" three times, realized most of his men were dead, then scampered like a whipped cur and didn't come back.

You tried to say he was dumb for not blowing the planet while they were on it. Turned out, he wanted to claim the package for himself.

>So in other words the Emperor would pop his head easily because the sword would make no effort to help?

Either you are dumbshit or you are trolling. The Chaos Gods will protect Abaddon with their blessings and favour.

>If it's not trapped then why doesn't it take a new form, kill Abaddon, then make a beeline for the Imperial Palace

We will know in the third novel. The point is Drach'nyen is out of the Webway and out of the Custard.

>f he wanted the armor there was a gigantic Webway gate right there so either move it or (as actually happened) lose it. Once again, impotent moron.

Except Abaddon was fought off by the Eldar before seeing the portal and there was no reason to believe that humanity and the Eldar would create a non-backstabby alliance with each other.
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So do you think chaos can win Konor? Do you think GW will rig it so they do?
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>>55298420
No. Chaos is losing in all three regions. Chaos needs to get the majority in two regions to win and that's not gonna happen.
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>>55298491
The have an ok chance to push back in NA, maybe the EU if every Imperial player utterly shits the bed tomorrow. I'm not really counting on it unless shit utterly reverses from last weekend.
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>>55295113
Banebaby
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>>55295417
>head-cables
Is that Angron kicking the shit out of some Tyrannids?
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>>55295527
>phosphex bombs
So, how long is it going to be before the Mechanicus launches a crusade into whatever plague-strewn hellscape that Mortarion got those from so that they can recover the STC pattern that was used to make them?
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>>55295692
Nobody cares, you fucking retarded tourneyfaggots.
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>>55299065
no that's the old 3rd edition bloodthrister, Angron might still be banished but i could see him coming out of retirement since primarchs are in vogue now
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>>55295205
Don't use the exalted seeker chariot, get a regular seeker chariot or hellflayer instead.
Also, fill up those Daemonette units some more. They lose their flurry of claws once they drop below 20, and they WILL lose some partners as they get shot at.
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>>55295847
Other than the bit about Angron, this post is utter horseshit and should be ignored.
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>>55299084
I mean, the Mech has bloops that walk though Phosphex pretty casually, so I'd imagine they'd jus circle him with those and try to get him to toss one. Still, that would be a decent plot for a book. You could have both sides win, Morty hacks up a huge number of Admech and feels smug about it and they got their toys to reverse-engineer.
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>>55297420
Oh no, this is fucking embarrassing. Even for Carnac.
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So how viable is a Primaris only army? I saw this model, and for some reason i've been thinking up a chad chapter, but I really don't know where they stand in terms of power atm. Is it worth it?
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>>55296120
No one would ever use Power Level, it's stupid
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>>55296120
People do in friendly games, but most players here are sorry sacks who can only get games with WAACfags and other LGS rejects.
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