/5eg/ Fifth Edition General

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Not very

If I go Mystic, Order of the Immortal, and then just all the straight up fighty vanilla stuff like Brute Force and Psychic Hammer/Mind Slam, how does it compare to Fighter or Monk?

What's wrong with splat if it offers more options as opposed to just optimal builds, which it seems to in 5e due to the subclass system?

>>55291447
Currently doing moderately ok since his wife is a diplomat, character I have as back up if this one gets to a point he doesn't need to adventure anymore is 10th in line, and plans to keep it that way, for the throne of a small northern Viking style kingdom. They're well off due to logging and mining, he's adventuring as part of his job as a diplomat since he's the least rowdy of his brothers and sisters.

>tfw just DM'd my first session
gotta say, shit's fun

DM is starting a new game allowing only VGM races. Game will start at 5th level, the higher we've ever went. What should I play, guys? I was thinking of rolling a meme character as I think it will be an one-shot (no confirmation yet), but in the same time it's the first time I will get to play a "high" level character.

No UA allowed though.

>>55291490
Because most people don't want a repeat of pf, the more splat material that is pumped out the more likely this is as the publishers run out of ideas and start churning out shit.

>>55291490
>>55291516
Also should add that just because it adds more options doesn't automatically make it a good thing for the game overall.

>>55291516
>>55291534

So what are people's feelings on Xanathar's Guide to Everything then?

>>55291547
It's the first true splat in three years, people are excited.

That does not mean there should be anymore splat any time soon

>>55291547
I'm extremely excited, because of how the new subclasses went through public playtesting via Unearthed Arcana, so they're far more likely to not be balance outliers

>>55291447
My whole party has 15 gold to their name, but due to most people using silver they are more than well off

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What is the cultural equivalent, or closest equivalent to the Roman civilization in the Forgotten Realms? Is it the old Netherese Empire, Cormyr or Chessenta? Is the answer more simpler or complex than that?

Would a metamagic option for sorcerer's that removes concentration requirements on a spell be OP? I imagine the point cost for it would be the same as Twinned. (spell level)

>>55291547
Like others have said it'll be nice after a decent amount of time. The issue is if they just start churning this stuff out like some people seem to want. Also I'll wait till I actually have one, or see all the subclasses and such that made it in.

>>55291621
Yes, that's fucking ridiculous
Don't fuck with concentration rules

>>55291621
Why not play pf if that's what you're after?

>>55291621
Even as a level 20 feature this would be gamebreaking

>>55291447
Considering my character is a college student I'd say they're not just poor they have negative wealth.

>>55291621
if it simply said to disregard concentration rules, yes. having two conc. spells running simultaneously is dangerously good. If they both had to be buff spells, it might be more reasonable, but idk how one would efficiently word that

>>55291621
What you COULD have is a metamagic that makes concentration checks automatic for the spell.

>>55291621
they should just remove concentration and only allow a character to have one buff on them at a time.

>>55291704
There are buffs that do not require concentration. Concentration is a higher order of buffs.

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>>55291704
that is a very stupid idea, but thanks for your input.

>>55291704
>t.wizard/bard player

Think we'll get a PHB2 with 5e, or do you think Xanathar's is as close as we'll come?

>>55291783
We'll never get <Book Name> 2. They're avoiding that because it can confuse consumers, especially first-time buyers.

>>55291447
Hold on let me check
Around 57900 gold

>>55291447
Starting off I'd have said not very- She's a petulant wood elf with dreams of being a first class adventurer, only to end up a barely decent fence in a city of thieves. Since joining up with a party of ACTUAL adventurers she's been able to save up some coin so I'd say she's become a bit more well off.

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>>55291511
>only VGM races
>What should I play, guys?
Bugbearmont

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Okay /5eg/: you are playing Tomb of Annihilation, you're in the final stretch of the last big dungeon, and POOF, you died. Your party finds your new replacement character, who is currently being kept as a trophy in a sort of magical stasis thing, and he comes from somewhere a bit familiar...
Who are you playing?

Someone from Earth
Also what do you faggots want me to post from Tomb of Annihilation?

>>55291845
A Japanese Samurai. He doesn't speak Common, only Japanese and attempts to kill any "demons" he sees on sight.

>>55291845
Post what character is gay

>>55291845
Wait, Earth? Krynn? Is there a spelljammer?

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>>55291483

I'm going to find out next week, stay tuned.

Seems like the biggest difference to me is that you don't get multiple attacks with the attack action. You do get those psychic d8s with your one attack, but that's about it. I'm hoping that the various utility aspects make up for the damage loss but we'll see; I'm mostly looking forward to using Knock Back, since Brute Strike requires betting the psi ahead of time rather than reacting to a hit. But of course you also have Bestial Form so you can spend 5 psi and a bonus action to fly, attune psionic weapon to get past DR, etc etc, which is all nice, and you can still spend just a single discipline choice to get proficiency with any skill for the cost of a bonus action.

Other big thing I see is that as an Immortal you don't get anything that lets you use your dex for weapons, which makes your Barb-esque bare AC thing less useful. You can get around it by going High Elf; you get +1 int and proficiency with the Shortsword. It's not a rapier but it is finesse, so then you can pile on the Dex/Con as needed without blowing a feat on Weapon Master. And there's the cantrip, ultimately I think High Elf's probably the best PHB race for an Immortal. You can also just use feats to get up to medium/heavy armor and focus on strength instead.

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>>55291883
Someone played Mothership Zeta recently.

>>55291845
my waifu

What's the best Artisan Tool?
What are some cool stuff I can do with them?

>>55291933
Blacksmithing, if your DM throws a flail snail at you.

>>55291914
>Brute Strike requires betting the psi ahead of time rather than reacting to a hit.

Has this been confirmed? You can't activate it in between confirming a hit and rolling damage?

>>55291914
I built a human mystic Immortal but I'm focusing on ranged attacks. I took Nomadic arrow as on of my general disciplines. It's like psionics weapon but for ranged, right? Makes the Dex pump feel worth it.

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Hey guys don't remember to pre-order the Seaso Pass for Volo's Guide to Monster: Special Edition!

BUY MY BOOK

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>>55291923
Not him but nice catch

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>>55291985

That's how it reads to me, like a concentration weapon damage cantrip but without the long window to make the hit. Don't know if there's a Sage Advice that says otherwise.

>>55291995

Oh yeah, you could just do that as a Nomad though and get more access to Nomad stuff, more teleportation to stay out of melee, etc. You got Studded Leather anyway, so you can get 17 AC with maxed Dex. If I just wanted to shoot a bow I'm not sure I could find two Immortal disciplines I'd want to know.

>>55291845
A man from our earth. He was Kid-in-King-Arthur's-Court-ed years ago and failed on the magical life-affirming quest he was supposed to undertake and has been trapped in this fantasyland ever since.

>>55291996
I'd probably burst out laughing if my DM started shilling Volo's as a character trait of Volo. Make that definitely if he did it like Billy Mays.

>>55291996
>7 hit dice
>+2 proficiency modifier
Also, expertise in Animal Handling apparently.

>>55292087
It would be completely in character for Volo. He loves shilling his books and mentioning his familiarity with famous people.
Volo's Guide To Nymphs when

>>55291996
>>55292087
>>55292135
Fuck now I need an Edit of Todd's face on Volo's or just in some random medieval adventurers outfit.

>>55292135
Proficiency bonus is based on CR, not on HD or anything else.

>>55292075
I don't so much shoot a bow as throw psychically enhanced darts. I also didn't feel most nomad disciplines worked for my character. I only took restoration and adaptive body

Is the spell point variant something the whole table has to agree on or can you just have a sorc using points while the bard and cleric use slots?

>>55292160
My bad, I checked the MM and you are correct.

>>55292192
The DMG seems to suggest you can do it on a character-by-character basis. Either way you have to ask your DM before you do it.

>>55291511
Tabaxi bard, but play it as a merchant. Shove as many Khajiit jokes in as you can.

Any info/screenshots on the two new backgrounds added in ToA?

>>55291817
If you haven't already hired a wizard to make you a clone, DO IT NOW

>>55292304

>Tabaxi bard
You know not what you do, anon.

https://youtu.be/9lf-j4DLVus

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Do y'all think the gunslinger will return?

>>55292337
Backgrounds don't add anything to the game, anon. Are you that desperate for content?

>>55291996
Everything from ToA just seems so comfy.

>>55292390
Hopefully not

>>55292390
>return
It has to exist in the first place to return, anon.

>>55292390

there are rules for guns and rifles in the DMG

I don't want them to touch a gunslinger class with a ten foot pole unless they're sure they can do a better job than the tire fire matt mercer put out

in my darkest dreams I have visions that instead of making their own they just give MM's gunslinger an "unofficial" thumbs up and put it in a splatbook, then i wake up screaming

>>55292392

just wanted to see them because they sounded neat.

>>55292392
I would argue backgrounds do add a lot to the game, you are playing a character according to your chosen background after all.

Is ToA out?

>>55292460
Yes.

>>55292460
>>55292471
what they're really asking is 'is it out online for free yet', to which the answer is currently no.

>>55292450
>Implying
Not him but not even remotely, why gimp yourself like that? Make a character then pick a background to fit, not the other way around.

>>55292460
It'll be a little longer just because you asked :^)

>>55292488

it's totally acceptable to start with background first. there are plenty of ways to make characters people need to stop being so autistic about how someone else character creates

>>55292488
Implying nothing. You are likely doing both.
And are you roleplaying or rollplaying?

>>55292392
Backgrounds are a fantastic roleplaying aid for noobs and pros alike. For me, they've made making characters more fun, and DMing for others' characters more fun as well.

>>55292422
Fuck, man, I know this board is for adults only but I don't come here for this horror content.

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>>55292488
>Even the background choice, which by RAW fully allows you to switch skills and proficiencies, is about "Muh Optimization"

>>55292488
Your roleplaying is based on your character ideals, bonds, flaws etc all coming from your background. You should know this.

>>55292550
>Roleplaying
but that's for faggots.

>all these people asking for the PDF

It's only released digitally calm the fuck down. It usually takes a few weeks before it's scanned, AFTER the full physical release.

Also people on the past few threads have asked if people want screencaps from DNDBeyond, Roll20, or FantasyGrounds but you ignore them and just whine.

>>55292571
Then you should stop roleplaying.

>>55292578
It's out physically in WPN stores as well.

>>55292578

no one expects a sub 24 hour full pdf scan. Most people are looking for shitty phone pics of pages from the books.

>>55292571
Then go play a video game. Or sit in a corner with a monster's manual, a bag of dice, and a character sheet.

>>55292578
Tales from the Yawning Portal was on the trove the same evening it was released digitally.

>>55292080
http://viewcomic.com/i-hate-fairyland-001-2015/
I don't know that Tomb of Annihilation is high enough level for that character concept.

What're some good spells for a 4th level melee fiendpact warlock?

>>55292514
That's fine but attempting to assume and tell someone else that they are playing x isn't especially if it's false.

>>55292516
Roleplaying, but it's funny how you immediately have to accuse someone of being x or y because they disagreed with you.

>>55292528
No but nice try

>>55292550
Not at all did you read? I make a character and decided what motivates them myself. Then pick a background that is closest to that as possible or fits the character.


Also I love how everyone throws a fit and assumes its about min/maxing.

>>55292571

Roleplaying is actually super fun. I'm not sure if I like roleplaying more or combat more, but it's a close one.

>>55292550
Not necessarily. If you're a capable roleplayer, there's no obligation to follow a mechanical process for generating a character personality.
On the other hand, the ideal, bond, etc. tables can spur the imagination to come up with interesting characters whether or not you roll on them/pick from them, and just having a background separate from class makes characters more interesting.

>>55292614
>Implying Anon doesn't

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What do you think of this character concept?
>Goliath Totem Barbarian (Bear at 3 and 6, Eagle at 14)
>Take Brawny at 4 and Tavern Brawler at 8
>Fight using a stupidly huge sword (Huge sized Dagger or Shortsword) as an Improvised Weapon, using it more as a lever in the battlefield than an actual sword since even as a Goliath it's too big to be practical

>Goliath wanderer with a sword that makes even him look small he's got literally chained to his body so he can't lose it, if asked about it says he took it off a Giant he killed and doesn't go into it any further, most people assume he killed a giant in combat because he's a bad motherfucker

>In truth the Goliath was taken in by an extremely old (even by Storm Giant standards) Storm Giant after being separated from his tribe in an avalanche, the Giant offering to let him stay there after he proved himself a good servant and person to converse with, becoming something of an adoptive son
>Eventually the Giant tells him he's not long for this world, asks him to fulfill the last bit of some Storm Giant Omen he won't be able to because he's about to croak- deliver this sword to it's "rightful owner", and that he'll know when he finds them
>Giant gets ded, Golaith is sad and blames himself for basically not being able to do a single thing to help him, takes sword/dagger (Which he can barely lift) and sets off to find who the Giant was talking about
>Somewhere between 1-100 years later, Goliath is wandering around with this giant fucking sword, at this point he's able to wield it in some fashion (Though he tends to rely on punches and kicks using it as a counterweight more than swinging the weapon itself)

Who the sword is meant for is up to the DM, could say it's for someone plot relevant, another PC, or some bullshit "it wuz ment 4 u all along :DD" sappy thing, or go the entire campaign without ever finding them.

>>55292692
Personally I prefer an even mix, too much of one or the other for whatever reason just start to make it drag.

>>55292721
It's pretty nice DESU
The only problem is that your regular Goliath doesn't live that long. Talk to your DM to see if it's different in his settings.

What class/subclass have you had the most fun with?

>>55292677
You seem upset, maybe you should look to your own idiotic outburst before saying everyone else is illiterate and just assumes.

Why can't you have both in your character creation process? Why can't you pick a background first and have this inspiration to create a character? Why is this deliberately gimping yourself? What sheer stupidity is this?

You are basically min/maxing when you say you're deliberately gimping yourself by choosing a background first.

>>55292816

i'm really digging my war cleric right now. I don't do amazing damage like my barb or fighter, but fuck do I love the utility.

>>55292791
Yeah I figure 1-100 years is long enough for the DM to shoehorn it in wherever he wants while having the bare minimum for him to get used to the weapon, maybe his bigly yuge sword is making have an unnaturally long lifespan or something if it's magic.

>>55291479
Like 60 gp rich.

>>55292816
Rogue swashbuckler, but it's was more about the character being funny than class itself.
What about you?

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>can't get booming blade before 4th level without being a half-elf or vuman

I refuse to sacrifice my character concept for this shit but I'm going to feel worthless in combat until fucking sixth level

>>55291511
Nekked lizardfolk monk for maximum hungry jaws cheese. Tabaxi swashbuckler for maximum greased up deaf guy cheetoes

What would it take to break an uncommon magic item? Like a +1 greatsword or something

Let's say the weapon had a large gem in it, and someone tried to pry it out. If it happens, would that destroy the magic? And what happens if a magic item is destroyed?

>>55292700
>mechanical process for generating a character personality.
It's not a mechanical process, you can specifically choose or make up some new ones or modified ones with your DM. It's entirely fluff.
I'm not talking about the skill or tools proficiencies.

>>55292853

What kind of character are you making, anon?

>>55292390
gunslinger is an incredibly stupid class concept because it's not only incredibly specific but doesn't even have anything it DOES associated with it. Anything a gunslinger could possible do is covered by the ranger.

>>55292853

Don't take a cantrip with Magical Secrets, what's wrong with you? Just spend one level to dip. A one level dip will not put your progression on that much of a hold.

>>55292831
>You are basically min/maxing when you say you're deliberately gimping yourself by choosing a background first.
I'm not that Anon and even I can tell that they meant "gimping" yourself as far as character creation and RP potential.
People here are just looking for reasons to accuse each other of minmaxing.

>>55292831
Did you read the original post or do you have reading comprehension issues?
>you are playing a character according to your chosen background after all.
Is gimping yourself because it is making the statement of you are playing a character according to your chosen background. This is not being inspired by, expanding on ideas from or any of what you're sperging about. If you are directly playing a character only using the tables it is gimping yourself because if you have any creativity you could do better and do as you said use it as inspiration.

I think you need to take a deep breath and realize I never said you couldn't do any of that, but if you are playing a character directly from the backgrounds you have gimped yourself because you can do better.

>>55292892
It's actually the son of my current paladin.

Tiefling Treachery Paladin 2/Swashbuckler Rogue X

Pump dex and be a fencer+buckler sort of dude. Womanizing prettyboy. It's not super unique but it'll be fun to play.

>>55292964
Are you deliberately being obtuse? Do you suffer from deliberate reading incomprehension?

What does that mean if not inspired by? Your chosen background can be anything you realize, it doesn't need to conform to your deliberately restrictive and idiotic reading. Your chosen background can be something you made yourself. In fact the PHB also encourages this. You can model and be inspired by the tables but nowhere does this mean you must take them. No one but you has been saying this.

Who fucking said you need to deliberately need to stick to the tables?
I think you need to take a deep breath and stop idiotically assuming, minmaxing and actually start to play a character.

>>55292390
There is no need to make it its own class; instead, just make it a Fighter subclass.

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>>55293123
>What does that mean if not inspired by?
I've stated that but I can see you're upset and only have the ability to accuse someone of min maxing. Also in the given context of "they do add a lot to the game...." it is easy to interpret it as such. Please continue ranting how I must be nothing but a min maxer and disregarding what I explained in the previous post.

>>55293123
>>55293219
Jesus Fucking Christ. YOU TWO AGREE WITH EACH OTHER. You both use backgrounds to complement your character concepts. You don't need to waste board space on arguing over tone and semantics.

I don't think I've ever played a character according to their background. That was what they were. I'm playing what they are. Growth and transition and all that good stuff. Who would play a character that's a cloistered scholar? Just sittin' in a library the whole campaign? Come on now.

>>55293310
Who you were informs who you are. A priest who used to be a cloistered scholar is incredibly different in how he interacts with society from a priest who's a reformed criminal.

>>55293219
Yes, please do continue to disregard everything said in the previous post and please do continue to look like a buttmad aspie.

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>>55293297

>>55293310
If your character was one-dimensional, that unfortunately is really you. The backgrounds are meant as inspiration and are deliberately open ended to how they are interpreted.

>>55293391
And you can fluff backgrounds in any god damned way you want. Which is what the PHB encourages you to do. So its not something worth freaking out over.

>>55293400
If you had bothered to read, or comprehend for that matter, the post you responded to you would know I was in agreement on some points. The issue is the original comment is phrased differently than what you've been shrieking about. Once again please continue, what ad hominem will you throw around next to not seem like a buttmad aspie?

>>55293391

>Who you were informs who you are.

Yeah. And that's how I do it. But who you were isn't who you are, that'd be boring as fuck. Like, pirate background. People who play the pirate background expecting the campaign to be dragged out to see to impress other sea vessels are boring people. That's lame and no one should ever do that.

>>55293433

I don't think the backgrounds are open ended.

>>55291883
Does he also come with his own mech?

>>55293406
No, but I've somehow held on to my optimism and faith in people after all these years. Not really sure how to be honest.

>>55291621
No, just let the player transfer the concentration to your target so they can buff the whole team.

>>55293435
I'm not freaking out, I'm new to this conversation. Just pointing out that "that was what they were. I'm playing what they are" is a silly statement.

>>55293483
>People who play the pirate background expecting the campaign to be dragged out to see to impress other sea vessels are boring people. That's lame and no one should ever do that.
I'm pretty sure people who play the pirate background want to be an ex-pirate who's now going on adventures, not imagining every game is going to turn into a pirate game.
I mean, those might exist, but I don't believe they're the majority.

>>55291483
You look and feel like you're a fighter-type, running into melee to beat people with your sword, but what's really happening is you're a one attack martial doing piss-poor damage past the 5th level mark unless you dump PP onto every attack, some of it wasteable. The good news is that if you've been counting HP, you can tailor each strike to just murder an enemy, rather than leaving them low over doing overkill damage. The bad news is that outside of dual-wielding (which isn't great, given how many powers you have that manifest on a bonus action) you're only ever getting one attack per round unless you blow a whopping 5 PP and that bonus action on Surge of Action (Celerity) every fucking round.

In truth, you are some kind of Sorcerer who has only memorized single-target damage spells. Your effectiveness at killing shit holds up only so long as your DM's encounter style allows you to save or restore PP. Up until the point that you run out of resources, you're something like a Rogue or low level Paladin; you've only got one shot at something, but you can make it count. It's tempting to think of a Mystic as some kind of gish, but a gish-styled Mystic is really a caster whose spells look like martial stuff. You do, however, get the Cleric's weird +1d8 damage to hits at level 8, an attempt to make up for their lack of improved Attacks.

>>55293476
Maybe you should do as you preach. The original comment was phrased correctly, it's only your weirdly restrictive interpretation that prevents you from seeing reason and continuing to see a red haze and continuing to sperg out.
You realize the backgrounds are how you make them don't you? You realize according to your background means however you create your background don't you? You realize you can customize backgrounds don't you? That you can work with your DM to create features for your background? You do realize these things don't you?
Why are you continuing to be deliberately obtuse?

>>55291883
Nani!?

>>55293483
>I don't think the backgrounds are open ended.
They can be, please read Customizing A Background on pg125 of the PHB and "if you can't find a feature that matches your desired background, work with your DM to create one".

>>55293202
>fighter
>not ranger

>>55293728
>Ranger shoots arrows, that means it should shoot gunpowder, too

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>>55293656
Unless you're being a memeing shithead who abuses Animate Weapon + Lethal Strike + Knockback to dump all your PP into one target and absolutely blow it up, the true power of the Immortal lies in being an unkillable shitbird.

Bestial Form's +2 AC can always be on in a fight and isn't even Concentration-based (quite an oversight).
Iron Durability's focus is another +1 AC that's always on, no Concentration. It's also got a scaling Shield analogue (1-7 extra AC as a reaction), and a bonus action physical resistance.
Adaptive Body's got quasi-Absorb Elements; costs more and no bonus damage. You can also give resistance or immunity to a given element. Also, no need to eat, sleep, or breathe!
Celerity gives you bonus action Dodge or Disengage for 2 PP.
Corrosive Metablism grants retaliation damage any time you're hit: 2d6 Acid, no save, AoE.
Diminuation has a costly "nope, that attack didn't work" reaction for 5 PP; it's like Counterspell for melee.
Psionic Restoration gives you up to 7d8 worth of healing as an action.
Moving over to Awakened disciplines, Intellect Fortress has a 2 PP reaction to impose disadvantage on an incoming hit, with 2d10 retaliation even if it hits. You can also add 1-7 to your Wis/Int/Cha saves as a reaction, and Concentrate to give the party advantage on them as well.

Outside of powers, you have what is essentially d10 HP (d8+1; 6 for the average level, just like d10) and can stack Dex and Con like a Barbarian. No shield usage with this, though, and you're limited to Simple weapons. You remembered to roll as a Hill Dwarf, right?
You get INT Temp HP every round (non-stacking).
Whenever you manifest a power, you can regain HP equal to the PP cost as a bonus action (so, not so useful if you're using a lot of bonus actions to manifest).

Rather than manifesting attack powers and blowing people up with psychic damage or big melee hits, you can be an intractable asshole that ignores everything thrown at him.

Most fun Paladin subclass?

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Have you ever played a coward, /5eg/?

>>55293836
I never did but i actually think it would be cool

>>55293821
Treachery
Oath Breaker
That's it

So for ToA we will have only 3 player with a Cleric (probably Trickery) a Glamour Bard and me as either Arcane Archer or tanky Nomad Mystic.

How fucked are we? Well if the first person dies we can at least try to fix our team composition

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>>55293767
>fighter shoots arrows, that means it should shoot gunpowder, too

let's just give everyone a firearm subclass, that kind of thinking worked out really well for pathfinder

>>55293728
Thematically, gunslingers have generally been more rogue-ish than anything.

>>55293836
I don't think so, but my group ridicule my previous character for her unwillingness to fight.

Frankly, cowardly characters probably shouldn't be played in heroic game, that is default for DnD.

>>55293879
>tomb of annihilation
Post pics of it so we can see what even happens before we offer advice

oh fuck it, here's advice

>trickery cleric
it sucks, tell cleric to pick any other cleric, it'll be better
>glamour bard
whatever it's fine
>arcane archer
It's total shit, anything else
>nomad mystic
teleportation could be good for utility, the prof in any skill is super fucking fantastic

>>55293887
A fighter is a flexible class to fill niche roles, unlike the ranger, so a gunslinger as a fighter subclass is perfectly reasonable.

>>55293850
I do too.

>>55293909
I think it really depends. Look at Usopp, for example. He is a coward but he's heroic. Not wanting/being afraid to fight doesn't mean you can't be brave.

>>55293898
IDK, those guys wandering the Old West probably pick up a lot of wilderness survival skills.

>>55293910
I read that often about Trickery domain, but I will have to see it for myself. The domain spells seem good enough, and the illusion is also not that bad. What makes it worse than the others?

While I still haven't seen it, I disagree with Arcane Archer after its been revised. Magic Arrows at level 3 are great for overcoming resistances before you get magic items and also add more damage and accuracy without spending anything, and redirecting arrows at 7 is also pretty good. It pales in comparison to battlemaster, but every other subclass does also

>>55293962
>"You give me food, I don't shoot you."
>"You don't give me food, I shoot you."
>"I shoot you, anyway."
Great survival skills, senpai.

>>55293972
>actually thinking the Old West was anything like this

>>55293972
Have you literally ever read or seen a Western? Like, ever in your life?

>>55293672
You seem really fixated on proving you aren't the one reeeing here aren't you? The statement was phrased so that you are playing a chosen background, do you understand that phrase? Not created, not modified, not expanded on chosen. As in choose from these options. You seem to be confused, or completely ignorant, of what that actually means. Were you the one who made that statement? It would explain a lot.

>>55291447
Doing Curse of Strahd so no money at all

>>55293836
I play a 1E / 2E character.
That means I'm willing to retreat from a winnable fight because it would cost too many resources for what's at stake or to gain; to get a better position (locking one or more bestial enemies behind doors, moving out of the range or firing arc of ranged combatants); or simply to kite with ranged weapons against slow creatures or targets that are more dangerous in melee.

>>55293999
You get plenty of material wealth in Curse of Strahd, it just doesn't mean shit since everyone around you is poor as dirt and there's nothing to spend it on.

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>>55292721
>Huge Shortsword is 13 feet
>Would deal 3d6+STR
Really that isn't even that imbalanced imo.

Maybe I'll artfag this up, might be a cool theme.

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>>55293990
>>55293991
>tfw playing a Wild West setting that's specifically like the bullshit fantasy seen in Western movies and not the boring reality where Indians pretty much never jumped anyone, cattle rustling was solved when the traveling judge came to town, 90% of towns banned guns, train robberies barely happened, and brothel madames were captains of industry

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>>55294046

>>55293836
yes.

>>55294062
Why do fire giants look so dorky

>>55293998
Yet you are only doing so, by being completely and willfully idiotic.
Please point to where it was saying it was according to a chosen background meant it is restricting to only the ones in the PHB, unless it's one of your ungrounded and unfounded assumptions. Deliberate misinterpretation is what you're doing.

Do you even comprehend what they're saying in customizing a background and working with your DM to create features? Can you even read yourself?

>>55294104
S Q U A T Z

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>>55294062
This is a good reference, I couldn't see any on google images so I winged one myself.

So I guess either it'd be a shorter sword/dagger or even more obnoxiously huge for them to wield.

>>55293998
Do you even comprehend the sentence in its context?
"Backgrounds do add a lot to the game, you are playing a character according to your chosen background".
Your chosen background, not a background, you deliberate imbecile, your background.

>>55294012
Meh we have been getting our shit pushed in cause we charge headlong into things. Cant really loot when your all at 0 to 1 hp

>>55294099
me 2

>>55292816
My favorite characters have been from games that bent the rules, so it's not really about the exact archetype for me.
However in an old PHB only campaign I had a sick Hill Dwarf Nature Cleric that I made because I knew the game wouldn't get to level 5. Shillelagh for d8 1h wisdom attack, Hill Dwarf for +Wis and not needing Str for armor, and despite being a full caster I had just as good melee as a martial (without feats), max AC, and high HP. The moment you reach 5 it kind of stops being special though.

>scheduling conflicts prevent getting the group together for three weeks
>everyone's finally free again
>"eh i'm not feeling it"
goddamnit
the moment a group misses two sessions you may as well call the whole thing off because it's never getting back on track
i fucking hate this

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>>55293074
For a second there I thought you said dump dex.

>>55293821
Treachery can lead to some fun assassin paladin kind of shit.

>>55293966
It's just waffle because it's later level things are total shit in comparison to other domains along with no heavy armor. He'd have a better time being a bard who acts like a trickster, be the one that can tumble and be a clown. It's really fucking fun

I forgot about the new archer, it might be fine, but I'd suggest anything else because I think in the context of the tomb of annihilation it might not be the most useful to be "RANGE MAN" when monsters are going to run into your asshole with a sword and poke you to death as none of your class features work at close range because archer man. Also since you're fighter you have to be front line defender, the bard/cleric won't be doing it unless the cleric becomes a war/forge cleric

>>55293998
You are confused and completely ignorant to what he actually meant, see >>55294190
Stop making shit up, you dolt.

Monday's UA will be about slotless spellcasting, but casters have to make skill checks to cast. No one will notice this because everyone is excited for Tomb of Annihilation.

Those that have bought Tomb of Annihilation, what's your favorite part of the adventure? Personally I'm a big fan of how the interior of the island (for the players at least) is a blank hex grid. Gives a comfy old-school feel.

>>55292866
1) Might not be able to remove the gem without dispelling it first.
2) Why the fuck would you not just sell the item if you need money that badly? It's worth more than some fucking gem.

>>55294278
>slotless spell casting with check to cast
oh great it's dungeon world

post the fucking tomb of annihilation magic item page, please god
I don't even care about the adventure I just want to know about the magic items

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>>55293807

I like Mastery of Wood and Earth a little better than Iron Durability; has the same focus bonus and it also has a physical resistance form. No Shield, but instead you get the wood wall and an earth elemental. Seems like most of the same stuff for more flexibility.

>>55294107
>I would argue backgrounds do add a lot to the game, you are playing a character according to your chosen background after all.
This was made in response to someone claiming they don't add anything to the game and if the other person was desperate for content. In the given context that is really easy to see how someone could be implying such, especially given the wording. Also again there you go talking about customizing in a discussion where the term used was chosen. Of course you can do all that, I've agreed with that before that isn't what was stated though so I'll ask again, do you actually know what the word choose or chosen mean?

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>>55294226

>>55294190
Once you choose a background it does become your background though. Also your posting style is far too obvious by dropping in "deliberate x" throughout the conversation.

>>55291027
>>55291033

>DMG after MM and PHB or even optional

This is why people say DnD is bad, rigid, has no options etc. There is so much stuff you can do with the information and tips in the DMG it's unreal. It has rules and advice for chases, interplanar travel, devising currencies, loot, monsters, spells, and more, post-level 20 progression that is arguably as good/better and certainly more inspired than 3.5E's epic levels, sieges, madness... It's crazy, there is SO MUCH to do and try, and you would rank it optional. People wrongly accuse DnD of being a bad or shallow system or desire more splatbooks of nothing but new class options, monsters, races, spells, and items, but they have never in their life checked the options in the DMG, and nor have their DMs. Don't mislead people.

>>55294317
Do you understand the meaning of choose or chosen? You understand it's selecting the most appropriate right? As in it does fit under customizing a background and working with the DM to come up with new features? Because you're choosing your own chosen background.

If it was phrased as "a chosen background", then yes that would fall under your weirdly restrictive definition, but hopefully your non-meme autism would be able to differentiate.

>>55293821
Devotion in our curse of strahd campaign was good. Would suck balls in a non-undead non-fiend setting tho.

>>55294445
Don't forget monster races

>>55294422
I'll take "deliberate" over "severely." It's a nice change of pace.

>>55294422
But it's not choosing a background as such, it's choosing your background, notice the difference if you can. As in, you can even come up with backgrounds from cribbing different features or coming up with the DM with new ones.
As in you choose your own background.

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>>55294474
>tfw ancients paladin with a three level dip in undying light warlock for MAXIMUM FLAVOR

It's been a blast so far. We're nearing the end of the book and I'm surprised I haven't died. I'm definitely planning on finding a way to sacrifice myself or die heroically before the campaign is up though.

>>55294469
You do understand the context it's in given the post before that one right? Obviously not since you're still attempting to ignore it and narrow it down to the single comment to "prove your point". Keep going though and throw around a few other meme insults, it'll definitely prove your not upset in the slightest.

>>55294497
That's nice and all however check the post right before that, with the given context that's not what is implied.

>>55294445
I own the DMG and have read some of it, but feel like I may have missed something by what you've said here. Any "required reading" portions of the DMG that you'd recommend?

>>55294535
Maybe you should have less of an overly restrictive definition and actually try to understand the complete meaning of the context and the phrase, you understand that it's referring to backgrounds, in the truest plural sense.

>>55294535
You're*
Hate when I do that

>>55294549
But it is though, that's your own interpretation and it's weird, but the original sentence was referring to all backgrounds in the truest plural sense.

>>55294445
Agreed, the 5e DMG is a fucking goldmine that does swathes of work for me as a DM. Monster building guidelines, creating balanced spells, and explaining shitloads about 5e design philosophy.

>>55294572
Yes, backgrounds that are content put out there by WoTC. If you wish to avoid people thinking you mean something else I suggest paying attention to the posts you reply to and choose better wording.

>>55294535
>>55294549
>Anon: backgrounds don't add anything to the game
>Other anon: I think they do add a lot to the game
Nuh-uh, you're only talking about the ones in the PHB and only them, and must be restricted to them.
Okay.

>>55294556
I seem to have lost the bookmarks I kept on my phone, but I'm gonna go through it quickly and tell you my favourite parts.

>>55294587
So it has been explained, after flipping out about how someone could misinterpret such a statement.

>>55294556
Chapter 9: Dungeon Master's Workshop is definitely required reading, and includes most of what was mentioned in that comment.
Most of Part 2 (chapters 3-7) should be at least skimmed.

>>55294597
Definitely this. Anyone who wants to homebrew needs to read all of chapter 9 front-to-back (and also UA: Customizing Classes).

>>55291996
I could have sworn Volo knew and used Invisibility

>>55294616
Maybe you should pay attention in that that's not what was meant. You realize the PHB and Wizards do encourage you to create your own backgrounds don't you?
Your chosen background is different to a chosen background, if you'd care to notice the difference and not try to inject some bizarre reasoning into the mix.

>>55292390
God I hope not. Just play a Fighter

>>55294646
The last 20 posts in this """"conversation"""" have been an argument over semantics. It really needs to just end.

>>55294616
"Backgrounds" could also refer to the mechanic of backgrounds that's new to 5e, rather than the specific ones presented in the book.

>>55294622
Misquote all you want to dilute the context

>>55294307
It's not like Dungeon World at the moment. Right now the basic concept is that a cantrip has a DC of 12, 1st level 14, 2nd level 15, 3rd level 17, 4th level 18, 5th level 19, 6th level 21, 7th level 22, 8th level 23, and 9th level 25.

No, this UA is not written primarily by Mearls. I guarantee if Mearls wrote it he would have said "any spellcaster can now cast any spell at any time, no components or slots necessary"

>>55294646
That's nice and all, however check the tone of the original post, with the given context of how it was presented.

>>55294309
not him but rate my Nomad tank.

He will focus mostly on Wu Jen disciplines. He gets his tankiness through Inertail Armor, Defensive Step, Mastery of Wood and Earth and Cloak of Air (which he will use his concentration on most of the time) ontop of his Memory of a thousand Steps. If this won't be enough I could always go for more options like Bestial Form or Adaptive Body, but I will try without them first.

Then I will use Nomadic Step to stay mobile, get into good positions and swap places with allies who are not. After that I will use things like Mastery of Water or Mastery of Weather to disable enemies and push/pull them away from my party (for example teleport behind the enemy lines and use Watery Grasp).

My biggest concern right now is what disciplines to get when, or when to swap them.

My player wants to play a blind character. Should I let him?

>>55294677
This has been happening because of semantics and misinterpreting meaning, deny it however you want.

>>55294556
Honestly, depends what you want to achieve. Skim the index, the content headers are perhaps a little too broad.

DMing SKT. When my players finally make it to Neverwinter and look for the Dancing Wave ship, I am planning on having them track down its wreckage, dive under the sea to look for the treasure and face a gargantuan crab with a treasure hoard on its back

Y/N?

>>55292866
Magic items are usually remarkably sturdy, but unless it has the Unbrekable trait a good pounding should smash it. Higher level items and particularly Legendary or Artifacts may require special methods

>>55294673
Please listen to this bro..

>>55293836
Yup, got to play an Infernal Pact Drow Warlock for a few months in OotA. Kept trying to convince the party that they should stop worrying about demons and get out of the Underdark.

>>55293836
>ever played
>anything

Lol no. One of my players recently did, she didn't really enjoy it and was ultimately killed when she tried to make a last stand against a black dragon and unleashed 7 attacks with action surge (every single one missed)

>>55294695
Here is what I thought of for the first few levels:

>level 1 Nomadic Step, Mastery of Force and Nomadic Chameleon
>at 2 replacing Nomadic Chameleon with Mastery of Wood and Earth
>at 3 Mastery of Water for some Crowd Control
>at 5 Mastery of Air for cloak of air alone.
>level 7 Mastery of Weather, maybe switch Mastery of Water out for something else

>>55294726
no

>>55294661
That's fine if it wasn't what was meant, however sperging out when someone doesn't believe that's what was meant definitely isn't the best course of action. Especially while trying to accuse the other of such, that's called projection and the amount itt can't be healthy for one person.

>>55294673
Oh I'm aware but this has been far too fun

>>55294727
I am aware the only reason it continued was the continued fit.

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Someones been drinking at wizards

>>55294689
>DCs that high for spells
I get it, and at the same time, I don't
Casting a 9th level spell with a 65% chance of failure is dumb for combat but then OP for just forcing it to get lots of free true polymorphs/wishes/whatever

>>55294808
Is this from ToA?

>>55294726
No, PCs are normally never happy about the restrictions such things place on them. Then they drag down the game complaining about it

>>55294808
post stats

>>55294819
Yeah just picked up my copy from my LGS. There is some weird stuff in here man.

>>55294819
Yes.

>>55294805
>That's fine if it wasn't what was meant, however sperging out when someone doesn't believe that's what was meant definitely isn't the best course of action. Especially while trying to accuse the other of such, that's called projection and the amount itt can't be healthy for one person.
Isn't that exactly what you've been doing? He's been pretty calm and rational all told.

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>>55294808
Am I the only one seeing a resemblance?

>>55294805
>Oh I'm aware but this has been far too fun
>I'm not arguing, I'm just trolling. It's the other guy who's mad!
Nobody cares which one of you is madder. We just want you to stop shitting up the thread, if it's not too much to ask.

>>55294829
please god post the stats of weird monsters, I gotta dm 5e tomorrow and I'd love to throw weird shit at the party

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>>55294825
Going to post crab people in one second

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CRAB PEOPLE CRAB PEOPLE

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There's only like 4 new dinos and i am very disappointed

>>55294861
Pretty disappointed, considering how badass Atropals used to be. But I guess the same is true of Elder Brains.

>>55294805
Your continued fit. Please stop.

>Oh I'm aware but this has been far too fun
Are you retarded or only pretending to be?

>>55294861
>>55294876
Thank you

How do the mystics wall function? Can you choose their shape, or are they just always a line? Can portions of them go through solid walls?

>>55294834
Yes perfectly calm when the first thing is accusing the other of seeming upset, as if it had any bearing on what was discussed :^)

>>55294846
Once he explained himself I just couldn't help but goad him, especially since he still feels there's no way what he said could be misinterpreted given the context of the post about content.

>>55294947
You've been told to stop. No one cares.

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Dinosaur racing stats

>>55294904
Keep up that projecting, just because you accuse someone of being upset first doesn't make it true.

>>55294947
>I just couldn't help but goad him
Then you have serious impulse control issues.

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>>55294556
>>55294597
>>55294629

Ok so as this anon mentioned: design rules. How go design spells, dungeons, monsters, items, even towns and people's personalities, the world, dieties... most of this is in the first few pages! You've got a chapter for making villains and their motivations, but not only that! It has tables and advice for motivations of monsters and NPCs. You've got factions, something I think is criminally underused by DMs, but makes the world feel MUCH more organic, like it's actually existed for a while and had people of similar convictions etc. join together. It has advice for designing classes, subclasses, backgrounds... a whole chapter! The chapter about designing a chase is one of.my favourite parts, read that and make your next session a chase scene through the city, or a forest, or an ancient ruin. Check out the madness chapter for your next eldritch horror game, or just a regular old skellingtons 'n' werewolves oneshot. The entire DM's Workshop chapter is amazing. Design a disease, a poison, a condition... You've got a guide to design your own adventure (I'm gonna give you one in pdf that I think follows that guide nicely, though any official one will do; just to show you that you can do it as well!) And my favourite chapter right now: planar travel. The first time I read it, I skipped it completely, but now it's my favourite. Just ONE other plane opens up almost as many new options as running a game in the material plane.

And lastly but not leastly it teaches a lot about being a DM, pure mechanical details. How to discuss and set the tone with your players how to follow rules, and which ones to follow. How to evoke feelings in players and make NPCs believable. The whole Running the Game chapter, if commited to memory, or if you just take notes from it, can make a first time DM with a bit of RP talent a competent DM.

>>55294947
So you were acting obnoxious for no reason, nice one. You should be well pleased with yourself.

>>55294961
>young dinosaurs
post stats
I hope it's low enough CR for me to wild shape into

>>55294967
On 4chan definitely

>>55294977
My own entertainment is reason enough

>>55294961
This is the best book ever. I will be downloading the pdf purely for the dinosaur racing.

>>55294979
Young T-Rex? Absolutely.

>>55294947
See >>55294673

>>55294979
no stats for young dinos they only added like 4 total and two of them are just zombie versions of old dinos

>>55294961
Nice, any other gambling guide lines or just that?

>>55294995
Post those stats I guess
Undead dinosaurs sound fun

>>55294988
It's really not. You're in a public forum, and it's rude to masturbate in front of people.

>>55293202
Sharpshooter is already a gunslinger desuu~

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>>55294808
The atropal's from at least as far back as 3E. They're basically aborted god-fetuses or a chunk of a god whose deific energies kept it animated beyond "death" and straight into undeath, until eventually gaining sapience.

Anyone played the UA artificer before, is it fun?
I've never seen anyone build a character with it in my group.

>>55294961

This is some in-depth shit. I'm somewhat impressed. I'll be less impressed if the book is less than 200 pages though. Padding is pretty shitty no matter what.

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>>55295017
>It's really not

>>55295048
It's maybe a little underpowered. Its offensive options are limited to what amount to a couple of custom cantrips, depending on the subclass.

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Heres all the dinosaurs i could find

>>55294961

is there actually an undead tyrannosaurus monster?

>>55295109
I think some of those might be already in the monster manual/volo's guide

>>55295109

ah shit there is. neat>>55295116

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>>55294876
Crab people have been in D&D a while. This confirms my theory that 5e is just pulling out whatever weird shit they find in the 1e Fiend Folio.

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>>55295116

where is the scans, the pdf milords

>>55294677
It went exactly as >>55294622
Misquote however you want to dilute the context.

>>55295109
>pterafolk
oh boy dinosaur people

The Brontosaurus, Deinonychus, Dimetrodon, Hadrosaurus, Stegosaurus, and the veloraptor are in Volo's

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>>55295211
>staff of the forgotten one
Post magic item stats, I'm so curious about this new shit

>>55295162
chris perkins has been saying thats what hes been doing the whole time

>>55295171
>>55295228

Goddamn, and they took stuff from Monster Manual 2 too. You can see the Zorbo on the right edge. You're totally right man.

Any good crowd control options that don't rely on strenght or constitution saving throws for mystic?

Not trying to bring up pol shit but every single npc is black except for 2 elves

>>55295211
Holy shit that is one powerful motherfucker. What about his lair actions?

>>55295273
Chult is a tropical jungle, not the cold north of the Sword Coast.

>>55295273
It's a goddamn literal oogabooga jungle. I'm okay with Chult being filled with black people as long as they stay out of the rest of Faerun

>>55295273
And most npc's in the sword coast are white. What's the problem? Never gone somewhere faraway and exotic?

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Alright its been fun going to get some dinner. If you got any requests ill be back in a bit.

PDF when?

>>55295382
post magic items pls

>>55295273
are most of the elves black?

>>55295187
>It went exactly as x
>After I've misquoted and diluted the context
You realize you have no argument there correct?

>>55295393
Another couple days now because you asked :^)

>>55295211
>>55295382

Post everything from Acererak if there is any more.

>>55291511

I'm playing a Lizardfolk Barbarian, and it's pretty fucking awesome. Cool fluff, gets a bonus attack bite for kicks, and in our high seas segment of the campaign his 15 minutes of held breath comes in real handy.

>>55295211
>no reaction teleports
>no Athletics or Acrobatics
Five Battlemasters end him in a round.

>>55294649
Fucking goddamn, you think you know the rules and here you are. Thanks a shitload man, there's so much shit that is cool and helpful. Seriously, thank you.

Can you use the Pact of the blade if your patron is the Hexblade?
Does being a patron turn your weapon into a Hexblade?

>>55295273
>go to Africa
>surprised to find Africans
????????????????????

>>55295446
It went like as quoted, but continue twisting the words, that's what you're good at.

>>55295425
It is not!africa

>>55295425
>>55295694
So tan like the Egyptians?

>>55295685
>More projecting
Why am I not surprised

>>55295615
>Bonus attack bite
Que?

>>55295650
I'm not the person who originally brought up the DMG in this thread, but I'm glad my reading recommendations might help you with your DMing.
Godspeed, Anon!

>>55295723
Seems like you're the only doing the projecting, buddy.

>>55295705
It's Deepest Darkest Jungle Africa, not Floodplain Africa.

>>55295723
>>55295740
>>>/b/

>>55295740
>I'll just repeat back whatever he says
I'm not your buddy, pal

>>55295783
Man that's some what disappointing, I wanted to make Egyptian elf jokes

>>55295211
>at will counterspell
>at will shield

Designed for butthurt players

>>55295724
>Bonus attack bite
>Que?
It's a lizardfolk racial. You can attempt to bite as a bonus action, if it lands you get thp equal to your con mod and it can't be used until you finish a rest

>>55295211
ToA looks fun as fuck, thanks bro!

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>>55295109
>deinonychus
>move 20 ft towards someone
>multiattack, TWO claw attacks and a bite
>the wording allows both claw attacks to trigger the shove
>then do a fourth attack if one works
I wish we had a Druid.

>>55295211

>at will counterspell

lol get fucked spellcasting babies

>>55291511
Yuan Ti Wizard

>>55295899
>Not having 2 casters
Acererak btfo

>>55295899
AND he adds 8 to his check so good luck casting things even above 3rd

>>55295899
Good thing I'm playing a mystic then

>>55295048
It's not bad, but it has some weirdness (construct companion as a core feature) and a couple features that are extremely conditional (like the bonus attunement slots).

There's a spinoff from it that I see get posted sometimes that is based on a sort of deconstructed Warlock, which has more variety and seems both more interesting and more true to the fiction of Eberron. I'm sure somebody here knows what I'm talking about and has/could find the PDF.

>>55295943
>imblyingk any decent DM hasn't enabled transparency

What's your favorite way to roll stats in 5e?

>>55295981

point-buy

>>55295859
You're right, I missed that.

>>55295837
My setting has Egyptian-inspired desert fae who live in an oasis in the middle of a desert. Human nomads in the desert avoid the oasis because if the fae city ever slips over to our world they tend to get all enslavey.
The humans also have to be careful when hunting giant snakes in the tunnels beneath the desert because that's where the fae build their tombs.
Egyptian elves are no joke, son.

>>55295981
Point buy.

>>55295981
6d20

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>>55295973
I think you mean this one. Haven't played it yet, but looks really cool and actually quite balanced for a homebrewed class

>>55291845
pls for subclasses

Alright guys, I just looked through all of the adventures that take place in the Sword Coast, and noted the ethnicity of each pictured character. If a character was pictured from the back and it could be argued that they could be one race or more, they were not listed. Let's see the ethnic breakdown of the Sword Coast:

Hoard of the Dragon Queen:
77% White
14% Black
5% Asian
5% Middle Eastern

Rise of Tiamat:
67% White
7% Black
13% Asian
13% Middle Eastern

Princes of the Apocalypse:
57% White
26% Black
15% Asian
2% Middle Eastern

Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide:
62% White
21% Black
8% Asian
10% Middle Eastern

Storm King's Thunder:
81% White
14% Black
5% Asian
0% Middle Eastern

Overall, you can see that the books were getting steadily more diverse, but then Storm King's Thunder tried to get rid of all of that! I guess something I don't understand is why there's so many Middle Eastern characters hanging out in The North.

What do you guys think? Is Storm King's Thunder an accurate depiction of the demographics of the Sword Coast, or is Princes of the Apocalypse more your style?

>>55291832
Could someone please give me the rundown on this build? Is 10foot reach actually good when you're only doing 1d4?

>>55296043
You hit them from the shadows as a bugbear assassin, and get bonus dice from being a bugbear that auto crit because you're an assassin.
You whip them into the shadows or something, and don't trigger combat, and do it again and again.
>b-but that's a meme!
Yep.

>>55296035

i'm so tired of this

>>55296079
What? Why would you not trigger combat if you whipped someone from the shadows?

>>55295981
4d6 drop 1 and assign as you like or 3d6 drop one +6
>>55296035

>>55296096
Woops forgot to reply to the second quote.

>>55296035
Fuck off.

>>55294961
help a young retard understand why it seems like you lose money on the almost surefire racers, or do you not actually put any money out until after the race

>>55296091
Haven't you ever seen a movie where someone gets pulled into the shadows, any the other guy has his back turned, and doesn't notice?
>b-but that's a meme!
Yep.

>>55296152
When you win, you get your bet back, plus the fraction of it shown in the odds. Or the inverse of it. Or something like that.
Anyway, if you bet on the surefire racers, you shouldn't expect a large payoff. It all makes sense.

>>55296152
You don't bet on the favorite in a horse race and expect to make a ton of money. If you bet 70 dollars on Big Honker in that example, you're only going to be getting 80 dollars back. You get the amount you paid for a ticket IN ADDITION TO the payout. This of course assumes that Chris Perkins understands how betting works, and that he isn't completely retarded.

>>55296035
What is this autism

>>55296227
>>55296152
thank you, I've never gambled in my life so trying to interpret that was like fucking rocket science to me

>>55296091
Because they just got yanked into the darkness and no one on their "side" noticed, because they're all standing guard and staring at nothing. The combat only lasted one round because you straight up murdered the guy, so as long as each attack you make incapacitates its target and doesn't alert any hostile creature, each new round you make is basically the start of a new combat.

>>55296289
Whips literally make a sonic boom when used, your DM would have to be retarded to allow that.

>>55296317
You don't crack a whip when you're using it to grab someone you fucking idiot

Speaking of whips, what race and subclass are the best for a dex Paladin?

>>55296341
If you're using it to grab someone then you're not doing any of the damage of the attack, you fucking idiot

>>55296363
Yes you are you dumb cunt

>>55296374
If you say so dipshit

>>55296353
H.variant and Ancients, but only because H.variant is the best race and Ancients paladin is the best paladin

New thread
>>55296414
>>55296414
>>55296414
>>55296414
>>55296414

>>55296289
>be guard
>be standing guard and staring at nothing
>sudden loud crashing and clanking noises as comrade hits the floor
>loud, drawn out scraping and screaming as comrade is "yanked into the darkness"
>blood curdling struggling sounds and death rattle as comrade is finished off
"Huh. Must be a breeze..."

>>55296317
Certain types of whips make a sonic boom IF you whip them in the fashion that makes said boom. You can't just pick up any ol' whip and swing it all over and start crackin' like crazy. It's a learned fucking skill.

>>55296515
What does that have to do with anything? If you're dealing enough damage to instantly kill a person with a whip you're going to be pretty fucking decent at using it.

>>55296551
He's saying that you have to want to make the whip crack for it to do so, it's not an automatic thing whenever you use it. Whips work a lot differently than in fucking movies. If you're attacking with a whip and don't want to crack it, then you won't crack it.

>>55296494
Now you're getting it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pryKDCxk8ME

>>55296577
Sure, you can use a whip in plenty of ways. But if you want to attack with one in DnD you're going to be dealing slashing damage, which would require you to, y'know, whip your target. And don't pretend that whipping someone wearing full plate armor as hard as you can is going to be silent.

>but what if I specify I'm strangling them with it

You have a very liberal DM. Also you could use a rope.

>>55296649
>But if you want to attack with one in DnD you're going to be dealing slashing damage, which would require you to, y'know, whip your target
Which doesn't require you to crack the whip you mong

>>55296577
>>55296649
Crack, no crack, what are you going to do about the sound of a 200+ lb armored man hitting the floor?

>>55296680
If you're dealing the maximum possible damage with a whip (sneak, crit damage, etc) it would follow you have to have it travelling at the maximum possible speed, i.e. supersonic.

>>55296690
Also this

meme build indeed

>>55295655
Yes and no, respectively.

>>55296712
>If you're dealing the maximum possible damage with a whip (sneak, crit damage, etc) it would follow you have to have it travelling at the maximum possible speed, i.e. supersonic.
That's the most retarded thing anyone has said in this thread
Congratulations, you're a fucking retard

>>55296783
>resorting to childish insults

Lmao

Sorry you're so pathetic

>>55296690
>HURR MAN HITS FLOOR
>build revolves around yanking people into the shadows
>to you
>who holds them
>and doesn't let them fall to the ground
>while you choke the life out of them
A little reading comprehension would help.

>>55296812
>literally not knowing anything about how whips work
>attempting to lecture people with your complete lack of knowledge
>calls other people pathetic

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Stat him.

>>55296814
Do these "shadows" have a Silence effect in them? Cuz, otherwise, even if the man isn't rasping loudly, which he is, even the shuffling of his feet and flailing of arms will generate enough sound for his comrades to hear.

"Stealth kills" are an absolute meme.

>>55296844
>thinking you can daintily and silently caress someone with a whip and instantly kill them while producing no sound whatsoever
>refusing to acknowledge anything can go wrong with your special snowflake meme build that your DM lets you jerk off with

You're the only retard here bud.

>>55296850
20 str
20 dex
20 con
12 int
20 wis
16 cha

20 open hand monk