Warhammer 40k general /40kg/

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>meme squiq link I put in OP days ago is still there

Have you painted or assembled anything neat lately anon?

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SARAH IS A CUTE
A CUTE

>>55251955
It is important link.

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>>55251957
> That smile though.

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Guys did you seen new Typhus?

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6th for the Black Heart

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>>55251957
Stop posting the fake version!

What do you guys think is the maximum size of game you can play on a 4x4 board? Because the local GW only seems to have those, and since I have about 1700 of dudes to fight with I normally play 1.5k games or thereabouts, but everyone else seems to go for 2k or 2.5k. Maybe it's just the fact that they tend to use Primarchs and Knights and other elite units a lot, but 2.5k points of Admech would start really restricting movement and you have to queue to get around terrain to shooting locations unless you play on a salt flats board.

Should I just get something big and stompy? I suppose I could fit a decent Battalion and a Knight in at that level, or possibly a Marauder or Baneblade variant. How do those stack up to each other?

>>55251955
That picture screams insecurity

>>55252050
6x4 is the recommended size for 2k iirc.

>>55252059
All the better.

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>>55251986
>Nurgle Terminators and Deathshroud
Now we just need Grave Wardens.

Also, are those Stormtroopers in the foreground?

>>55252025
Not even a good joke, senpai

inb4 white knight tho

>>55251986
He was shown close up in another video a few weeks ago

>>55252073
Yeah, should be an easy lay

>>55252080
you do better

plus i low key think its one of those girls that keep posting that pic

>>55252050
Knights die too fucking quick

>>55252097
She's for painting minis and holding hands. Nothing more.

>WD says AdMech codex is 104 pages
There had better be a fuckload of lore to pad that out considering AdMech only have ~17 units. Even with the Knights that's maybe another 5 units unless the Questoris Mechanium introduces some entirely new knights.

>>55252115
But why not pipe after a hard day of painting and holding hands?

>>55252130
Maybe we're getting actual tanks that aren't boxes on legs.

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>>55252080
r8 my version

>TSons Predator can take following options
>Twinlinked Soulreapper sponsons: Heavy 8 S5 -3 D1 30pts
>Quad Soulreapper Battery: Heavy 16 S5 -3 D1 60pts

Y/N?

>>55252147
You need to label her as laura.

>>55251955
Is that Lion El'Jonson in his youth?

>>55252130
I suspect it's mostly painting cutouts, though, since unlike Marines and Chaos Marines and different coloured Marines we actually have more than one or two types of infantry and vehicle to vary up
I'd be hella happy with lore though, and that my might mean we're picking up a new unit or two.

>>55252146

Well, we know no new models, but we might have some split entries and maybe a generic Archmagos or something.

>>55252146
There's a rumor that says there will be another walker tank but most people seem to be saying no new models because WD didn't mention any.

Tyranid codex FUCKING WHEN

>>55252163
November

>>55252163
>playing nids
LOL

>>55252150
Why not just give it a souped up main gun? Like a Twin Heavy Soulreaper Battery or a Soulreaper Punisher Cannon.

>>55252159
>>55252160
For some reason I want Mechanicus only Leman Russ Variants, like

>Leman Russ Incinerator
Same as the 30k one
>Leman Russ Fulminator
Lightning Cannon
>Leman Russ Irradiator
Rad-Cannon
>Leman Russ Executioner
The same as the Guard one, but fielded in mass amounts because Mechanicum

>>55252146
B but i like my boxes on legs

>>55252180
>not playing the objectively best and coolest race

>>55252201
Also, the Leman Russ Arachnos needs to finally make it's tabletop debut.

>>55252215
>nidfags actually believe this

>>55252081
He wasn't. In video was DG terminator(probably Deathshroud)

>>55252074
It's Tempestus Scions, yes.

>>55251957
I want to pet that kitten.

>>55251957
_Alexis_ is cute

Trip report: my first game of 40k 8th

My list:

Dominus, Eradication Ray/Serpenta

10 Rangers, Omnispex, 3 Arquebus
3 Plasma Destroyers

2 Kastelans, Fists/Flamers
Neutron Dunecrawler

Datasmith
Eversor in support detachment

Opponent's List:

Typhus
Nurgle Fart Arm Sorcerer

2x 7 Plague Marines, 2 Plasma + Power Fist
20 Poxwalkers

Bloat Drone

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The game started OK, my Dunecrawler put a few wounds on the drone, my Arquebuses killed a Plague Marine and the Kataphrons another.

Nurgle T1 saw Typhus get an 11 to Smite a Kastellan, blowing it up with 6 wounds, and then Perils himself for 3 wounds trying to cast some other power. The surviving robot tanked plasma fire and reflected two wounds back onto plague marines.

Turn 2 I popped the Eversor, and killed a few Poxwalkers. The assassin killed half a squad of plague boys and the Arquebuses reduced Typhus to 1 wound.

Then it all went wrong. I couldn't finish any.units off, Typhus killed my Eversor (who didn't even explode), my Onager missed every shot, my Kastelan was bogged down by zombies but managed to kill the Bloat Drone, and a squad of Plague Marines managed to charge my Destroyers and kill them.

At the end of the game my opponent had two units of 2 marines, 6 Poxwalkers, Typhus on 1 wound and his sorcerer on 3 wounds left. I had my Onager on 2 Wounds, 1 Kataphron, and my Rangers undamaged.

Game was fun, if I'd used the Eversor better and focused fire more I'd probably have won.

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>>55251956
The last things I painted; waiting on some more Inceptors to come in and need to assemble the Librarian and Contemptor.

MOSTLY though I need to knuckle down and decide whether to take the extra step and paint them as Destroyers and order the custom transfers for their shoulder pads, or to make them an OC Chapter in which case I need to loot through my current transfer boxes and other bits and pieces to see what would be a good insignia. Also a name.

>>55252151
I just put the picture where the horse picture was before, senpai.

>>55252275
Lame Hornets

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Alright motherfuckers.
I'm gonna start Space Marines. I'm gonna do Astral Knights

This is the list I want to play. Tell me, /tg/, what chapter tactics would work best for me?


Battalion Detatchement:

HQ:
Captain on Bike (Stormshield and Teeth of Terra Relic) I think I'll use one of those Stormcastfag animals for him to ride on as a "counts as bike", probably that griffin looking one

Librarian (Force Stave)
Troops:
Sniper Squad (5 Sniper rifles and Camo Cloaks)

Sniper Squad (5 Sniper rifles and Camo Cloaks)

Sniper Squad (5 Sniper rifles and Camo Cloaks)
Elites:
Tartaros Terminator Squad (Power Sword, Grenade Harness and Plasma Blaster Seargent, 4 Power Fists, 1 Reaper Autocannon and Stormbolters)

Tartaros Terminator Squad (Power Sword, Grenade Harness and Plasma Blaster Seargent, 4 Power Fists, 1 Reaper Autocannon and Stormbolters)

Dreadnought (Twin Lascannon, Dreadnought Fist and Stormbolter)

Dreadnought (Twin Lascannon, Dreadnought Fist and Stormbolter)
Heavy Support:
Devastator Squad (Power Sword Seargent, 4 Heavy Bolters)

Devastator Squad (Power Sword Seargent, 4 Plasma Cannons)

Centurion Devastator Squad (Lascannons and Hurricane Bolters)

Exactly 2000 points. Devastators set up on objectives, the scouts can be deployed for screening. The dreads hang back with lascannons as counterchargers, and the terminators either hang back and shoot as well (against melee armies) or can deepstrike in to constest 'n shit. Librarian because Librarians are cool. Bike Captain stas with the devs for rerolls, but can redeploy quickly thanks to the power of SPEEEEEED. That way, he can RIP and TEAR with his chainsword whenever he feels like it.

Now, what Chapter Tactics should I use?

>>55252307
If you're sitting back and being shooty, go for Raven Guard tactics. If you're facing cover campers, go Imperial Fists.

>>55252307
The fact that you've blanked out the entire list is hilariously appropriate.

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>>55252305
be nice anon

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>>55252307
FUCKKKKKKKKKING SPOILERS WTF WHY DOES IT SPOILER EVERYTHING WHEN I PUT THE BRACKETS IN FRONT AND BEHIND FUCK THIS FUCK 4CHAN'S SHITTY INTERFACE FUCK YOU REEEEEEEE

>>55252335
Bland Hornets?

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>>55252331
>>55252333
Guess I have no choice, then.
Quick Question:
Am I correct to assume that, even if I use Ravenguard Chapter Tactics, I am unable to use their Warlord trait and Relic because my chapter is actually "Astral Knights"?

>>55252336
Ctrl+s newfag.

>>55252395
If you want to use their Warlord Trait and Relic then you "Astral Knights" can just be "Raven Guard" in disguise

>>55252395
What? No, you can use their Trait and Relic. There are, for example, tons of Imperial Fists players using Ultramarine rules because they hate the IF's rules.

>>55252395
There's no real reason to replace <Chapter> with anything other than one of the chapters in the codex. Then you just paint them as whatever chapter you want and call them that chapter while making use of your chosen keyword's shit.

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>>55252411
Cool. I don't really care about the relic, but that "no overwatch allowed" warlord Trait seemed pretty neat.
>mfw in disguise

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I want to use pic-related with these arms to act as rough riders.
https://victoriaminiatures.com/products/rough-rider-arms-x5
Are there any obvious problems with this, besides the cost?

>>55252201
>Why not just give it a souped up main gun? Like a Twin Heavy Soulreaper Battery or a Soulreaper Punisher Cannon.

Idk how to do that without making it broken.

>>55252460
Do you want to play in GW stores? If someone notices the arms are non-GW, you might be told to fuck off. But then again, who'd notice that?

>>55251955
Squig with a gun is best waifu.

>>55252471
The official rule is at least 50% of the model must be GW made. So the arms would be fine.

>>55252471
I'm friends with the manager and I'm not going to advertise that I got those arms from a third party.
Surely it won't be noticeable?

>>55252050
2.5k on a 4x4 board is utter insanity. The only way that would even work is if both sides are playing super-elite armies, but even then...

I'm imagining 2.5k of Guard on a 4x4 and keking. I had enough trouble fitting 1k on one when we rolled opposite corners deployment.

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Are there any cool space marine chapters that don't have a hard on for the Emperor or the Imperium as a whole?

I would just go Chaos but I don't want to buy old models now only for Chaos Primaris to come out in a year or so.

>>55252517
>being this new

>>55252517
Define 'hard-on'. Do you mean they don't hold allegiance to the Imperium? Then yes, but they don't tend to last very long at all, since they don't have any reliable supply train and they're hunted down relentlessly. There wouldn't be any Primaris seperatists either, since they're all fresh out of the indoctrination booths.

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>>55251927
Assuming all the living Primarchs make a comeback, what will Lorgar's gimmick be? Free and better demons? Morale shenanigans? Psyker stuff?

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Why are so many necron units complete crap now?

Flayed ones are so expensive that they lose virtually every trade I've run them against.
Monoliths do nothing, and all warriors are good for is soaking up damage.
How are you even supposed to play this shit?
It feels like 7e orks. (orks fucking rape necrons now btw)

>>55252542
>ADB'S BLESSING: Lorgar wins every game, even the ones he isn't in, because Chaos won ten thousand years ago

So, I know Forge World has Gabriel Angelos up for Blood Ravens, downloaded his rules. Do they have their own chapter tactics? I have FW's Index thing for Space Marines, but I can't find anything in there. Not even for FW's main chapters, like the Space Sharks or Red Scorpions.

>>55252527
When I say hard on I guess I mean by chapters that are still in allegiance but aren't too keen on it, like reluctantly fighting for them I suppose.

Renegade chapters are cool but like you said, they probably wouldn't have Primaris and wouldn't last more than a week out of the safety of the Imperium.

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>>55252347

>>55252565
choose your own tactic, they dont have one

>>55251957
Why is this gross creeper snap shot posted every thread. Jesus it gives the rest of us a bad name

>>55252542
>Tear in the Rift: Unholy chanting and sheer devotion allows daemons to be summoned within 3 inches of Lorgar, even if Lorgar is within 9 inches of an enemy model.

>>55252567
There are plenty of shades of allegiance to the Imperium. You can easily have Chapters who think that, for instance, the Church are a bunch of loons or the Inquisition should stop killing everyone who's even heard of daemons on principle. Just be aware that if they're loud about their disapproval they'll make enemies; Look up the Celestial Lions, for instance.

>>55252565
Fanon Mary Sue Chapters don't get chapter tactics anon.

>>55252567
>like reluctantly fighting for them I suppose
No.

There are plenty that don't much care for the various ruling powers of the Imperium like the High Lords or the Inquisition or even most other Chapters, but they're all more or less loyal to the Emperor or Imperium at the end of the day. Otherwise they go renegade.

While most renegades don't last long, some do; generally only because they eventually side with Chaos but not always.

>>55252471
I think they may have stopped the gestapo act with that rule.

>clearly see a model is a GW base model
>but not 100% GW model
>"Thanks for buying our products, but get out of our store and don't come back."

That would lose so much business.

>>55252556
>monoliths do nothing
>they just let your army jump around the map and are ridiculously durable
>with great weapons

Maybe you need to re-read your codex and check some batreps for help.

so whats the dull pain guilliman apprently is feeling deep inside ? is it the warp part of himself thanks to eldar wizadry

>>55252567
The closest you're going to get is maybe the Dark Angels and their successors. They're so focussed with guarding their secret, in order to protect their honor, that the very hint of one of the Fallen being nearby is enough to have them abandoning other Imperial forces in order to hunt that ONE GUY.

>>55252582
Well, that sucks.

>>55252589
You're mistaken, my friend. I'm talking about the Blood Ravens, not the Ultramarines.

>>55252593
I did breacher conversions with 3rd party jump packs to make non-alien vespid squads

my lgs manager said he doesnt care about it because he knows i bought the breachers at the store but managers will just fire him if he allows any 3rd party in

>>55252615
It's because he was stabbed by Fulgrim with magidaggers. It literally damaged his soul, and even Cawl hasn't figured out an ointment for that.

>>55252616
>Well, that sucks.

why does it suck? you get to choose any chapter tactic you want

>>55252588
>>55252591
>>55252616
Well that's a shame. Might just have to do some more reading to see If i can find a flavour of marines I like then. Any recommendations for other cool chapters then?

>>55252622
>playing at a GW
Not even once

>>55252567
My Primaris are Alpha Legion. I built a bunch of Mk IV marines and did them Alpha Legion as well. All in 30k colors.

My Bobby G is wearing his helmet. He's Alpharius.

>>55252615
Knowing he will never be human.
Must suck knowing he will always be inferior

>>55252632
What's your definition of 'cool'? The Wolves are about as un-Imperial as you can get while still being loyal, the Blood Angels are Space Vampire Pretty Boys, the White Scars are Mongol bikers, the Carcharodons are albino shark-themed bezerkers...

>>55252130
72 pages of ms paint colour schemes.

>>55252517
Iron Hands maybe? they have more of a hard on for the ad mech., and still butthurt over losing their primarch.

Honestly, you can put whatever fluff behind your army you want, not like it changes how you run your table top army.

I could paint my primaris marines as Legion of the damned, as long as you can tell what's what, who gives a flying fuck.

>>55252630
I didn't see it like that. Okay, it doesn't suck.

>>55252633
20 mins walk/5 mins drive as opposed to an hour drive to the nearest non GW LGS

its a decent store because the manager is good and its a tiny shop, plus almost all the players there have pitched in and we rent out a penthouse for matches with proper terrain and gamemats

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>>55251956
Finished my tonk army to what I believe is table top standard, now I'm mustard for a game

>>55252622
You should ask to talk to the store manager then and have the receipt on hand, and ask why they're willing to break business relations to a customer who has already purchased the kit, did some personalizing of "Your Dudes" that takes no money from their parent company, but will lose a customer over something so petty and cost them further business.

And then ask them if you used jump pack marines as proxied vespids, why that is fair because their GW models, but you could buy them second hand a buck a piece and they get no money from new sales.

If they give you a shit answer, stop going there. Don't feel bad cause there's nice people, fuck the major corp.>>55252623

>>55252665
Fair enough friendo. Im pretty lucky, my flgs thats a 5 minute drive from me has ~18 tables in a 5000 or so sq ft space and dont give a fuck about conversions

>>55252632
Have you considered homebrewing a chapter?

>>55252651
>Space Vampire Pretty Boys
>Pretty Boys
You got me interested anon. I'll give them a look.

>>55252661
I know I can but it's more for my sake than anything. Like I could totally paint my Primaris guys up as Night Lords or Word Bearers and give them Ultramarine rules, but it's kinda scummy and feels wrong.

>>55252689
I thought of doing it but I feel like it'd come out too 'special snowflake'.

>>55252676
>that takes no money from their parent company, but will lose a customer over something so petty and cost them further business.


you vastly underestimate how much that doesnt matter to the regional managers, they are told to enforce it from the top brass, they are also told to punish store managers who dont also enforce it

the manager is a mate of mine so i'm not really going to cause a stink to prove a point when it could cost him his job

>>55252683
is that the LGS in stockport?

>>55252690
That's what I did and it isn't scummy at all. You run smurfs if you're playing Bobby G. Anything else if you're not.

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>>55252130
>that many pages
>probably again filled with crappy color schemes made in Paint.net
>probably mediocre lore
>probably no new stuff/rules
>mfw

>>55252697
They invented the idea of successor chapters specifically to encourage Your Guys. Just don't make them amazingly awesome everybody's friends who've been at every pivotal moment in the Imperium's history and you'll be fine.

>>55252699
Nah, pittsburgh

>>55252632
Assuming you still want "fringe" Imperials, heres a quick list to consider
Space Wolves
Most Dark Angel successors
Some Blood Angel Successors
Celestial Lions (grudge against the Inquisition)
Black Templars (kind of)
Black Dragons (for mutation reasons)
There are plenty of others; I'd check out the list of Chapters on the Lexicanum wiki, theres a lot of inspiration you can find there.

>>55252699
Send a complaint email and don't name names or say where you're from. Hound them for a while and make them cry about it. GW has good customer service so as long as you make the right kind of stink you'll be in good shape and your friend shouldn't have any problems.

If they do fire him, that's lawsuit material.
>"A customer was unhappy with our corporate policies."
>"You're fired for rules you have no control over but we're blaming you for a customer being unhappy."

EZ ticket to the good life.

>>55252690
Could also look into the joke armies, pretty marines, and angry marines. Could be some great conversions there.

If I'm not mistaken there was a Blood Angels successor that was so violent that their practically excommunicated, but still technically server the Imperium, Blood Knights or something like that?

>>55252697
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Space_Marine_Forces_(List)

Only other suggestion I can provide. Look through until you find one you like, if homebrewing doesn't work.

>>55252722
ah i was only a few thousand miles out

>>55252737
the customer service just say they have referred it to management, but they just ignore it

>>55252614

>>they just let your army jump around the map
That's not what they do at all.

>>and are ridiculously durable
They don't even get QS and are arguably less durable than a doomsday ark

>>with great weapons
Are you fucking kidding me?
Those weapons are virtually incapable of ever letting your monolith earn back its points.

>Maybe you need to re-read your codex and check some batreps for help.
They don't have a codex you turbonigger

>>55252737
>Being this naive

>>55252395
You can, as successors get to use it.

>>55252542
Prolly like a crazy amp'd up Dark Apostle

>>55252738
Flesh Tearers. Gabriel Seth is a fukken baller.

>Dante calls for successor chapters to put marines into the BA to buffer the numbers after a bad beating
>Seth says fuck that noise, converge the remaining BA into FT
>Minor civil war in the BA chapters
>Some Xenos faction shows up, everyone brofists, wonder twin powers activate
>fuck up the xenos and make the Blood Angels great again

>>55252738
Yeah, Blood Knights (or Knights of Blood?). There is also a Successor that has their own blood drinking ritual to keep the Red Thirst in check and when the Blood Angels found out and got mad they threatened to rat them all out to the Inquisition; Angels Vermillion I think. And another one (Angles Encarmine) that is always under strength because they're constantly crusading to keep their Death Company in check.

There are some neat concepts in the sucessors.

>>55252757
Please, I'm still trying to forget Swallow's 40k BA books.

>>55252750
>not knowing how to game people to get what you want

You have no idea how easy you can make a shitstorm from a disgruntled customer complaint if you have a good case to show crappy business practices. Local news stations or papers on slow days will jump on that shit. Put pressure on GW where it hurts worst: their profit margins and publicity.

>>55252723
>>55252742
I'll give them a look, might be a good idea. Thanks friends.

>>55252738
>>55252757
>>55252759
Okay these guys sound cool. I'll look into the Blood Angels as well. Although I love the idea of them, I probably wouldn't do a joke army purely cause I might not find it funny in a few years or weeks.

So I've got a tourney coming up i December and im torn between bringing DG (which I assume 1/3 of everyone else will too) or tough it out with my Boyz and their Index.

Official successors > donutsteels

>>55252781
>Local news stations or papers on slow days will jump on that shit
What are they going to publish?
"Local man kicked out of store after trying to use competitor's products"

>>55252759
Blood Drinkers
Vermilion are those guys who say "leave us alone".

>>55252697
nah man, special snowflake chapters are what all the canon chapters are based on anyway. just make your own and don't be a total sue about it.

>>55252795
If you have to ask you dont deserve the boyz

>>55252567
>they probably wouldn't have Primaris

Cawl's been using all the geneseed he has at his disposal. Which, it turns out, is ALL of the legions, including the 2 expunged ones.

It would be very easy to fluff up a warband that contains Primaris and just have them made from traitor Legion geneseed. Plus I strongly suspect that's the way things are going anyway and we'll be getting the Cawl Heresy sometime next year.

>>55252781
>Still being this naive

>>55252801
Florida man

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>>55252791
>Although I love the idea of them, I probably wouldn't do a joke army purely cause I might not find it funny in a few years or weeks.
Despite the "Pretty Space Vampire" thing the Blood Angels and their Successors are played pretty seriously in canon, its mostly just here that they're joked about in that way.

Think I may do a Mentors chapter/Scion list some time, after I finish Black Guard Primaris. Like, Scions for my troop choices largely, with support units from the Mentors.

>>55252819
Are you suggesting anon do some meth and eat the managers face? [Spoiler]this pleases slaanesh [/spoiler]

>>55252791
The BAs aren't a joke army, I'm sorry if I made you think they were.

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What Chapter Tactics do you think would best fit the Storm Wardens?

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Whats the best loadout for the Fat Man? On paper the Gatling + Gatling + Storm Bolters seems good, but I wouldn't mind having the Macro Plasma for pinch anti-armor duties as my army could use the help on that front.

>>55252791
BA and their succesors are handsome and noble Marines who have genetic flaw that make them drink blood and went berserk.
Also BA are fluffwise assault focused.

>>55252822
Oh no I know the Blood Angels aren't a joke army, I was talking about the Pretty Marines and Angry Marines.

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>>55252570
>>55252275
With a bit more yellow they could be like, an alternate colour scheme marines melevolent AKA the vicious hornets of the space marine world.

>>55252737
most businesses can terminate employment at will with no reason given. if they fire him they probably won't even tell him why.

either play somewhere else or accept gw's shitty rules, but don't fuck with someone's job over a stupid argument.

>>55252710
As long as one of the forgeworlds replaces the imperium keyword with chaos I'm happy.

>>55252854
There are way better options for anti-armor, as it doesn't really do well in that role. Basically, gatling is your best option. I prefer frag assault launchers personally but that's just me.

Basically the only good role for the Redemptor is anti-horde. You'll get more millage out of just a unit of Hellblasters if you want Primaris anti armor.

>>55252832
>tries to make unfunny joke
>fucks up the spoiler
Pottery

>>55252697

The key is to make your guys fit the existing fluff. They will have their little thing that sets them apart; maybe they're infiltrators, or focused on lightning strikes, or a heavy focus on aerial assaults. You can even say that they're experts at this, and few others can match them for <insert specialty here>.

It's when you go further than that that you hit special snowflake territory. When your homebrew chapter is the absolute best at <insert specialty here>, or use special equipment no-one's ever heard of, or fly in the face of groups like the Inquisition despite them having very good reasons to investigate you.

>>55252854
I use the gatling version.
I haven't been impressed with it so far. if it moves it's 4+ shooting means half of that firepower goes to waste and the other half being st5 means you can really only use it against infantry. it's generally just a big fat bullet sponge that dies in one or two turns, which I guess is fine cause of all my dreads it's the one I care least about losing.

>>55252050

4x4 is confortable at 1k, doable up to 1.5k

>>55252854
ravenguard is decent with plasma at the back

gatling white scars being shat out of a stormraven is also really scary, because you cant tarpit him from charging the shit he wants to kill

>>55252869
>>55252892
Nuts. Maybe I'll just get another Contemptor.
>>55252923
I will be running it as White Scars tactics, but without any Storm Raven support, mostly footslogging force

>>55252809
I love all my green lads equally, but chosing between spamming boys of or being steamrolled is a bitter pill

>>55252801
>Local store bans customers who buy their products
>Local store threatens employees over four millimeters of plastic
>Corporation being sued for 62.5M faces new front after employee is fired for misconduct involving a miniature constructed using alternative third party parts for a custom appearance, despite being built on the company sold product.

>>55252973
My intent is to actually use the Redemptor model and make a Mortis pattern, put two plasma cannons on it and run it as a Deredeo, and maybe a second with the twin gatlings, and kitbash on the small gatling ONTO the big one and count it as a Leviathan with Storm Cannon Arrays.

>>55252973
i'd still go dakka for it without SR support because you will be moving, but you want to be throwing it into as much shit as you can as fast as possible

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New BL books

>>55252150

N.
A single cannon is equivalent to an HB, no reason he should have 2/4 per sponson.

Better options:

Main gun: Quad soulreaper cannon (60) or two hellfire launchers [as twin hellfire missile rack but 36" range] (50)
Sponsons: Nothing (0) or soulreaper cannon (20x2) or heavy warpflamer (20x2) or hellfire launcher (25x2)

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Gaunt Ghosts

>>55252869
>Hellblasters
>Good anti-armor

That's cute, really. You can't put the the damage you need/want with hellblasters for anti-armor. They're dedicated killers of 5-6 wound models with high Toughness and good saves. And the heavy weapons they have are complete trash. If the heavy plasma did d3 wounds on overcharge, maybe they'd be worth it, but they suck for damage output.

For the same price of a base hellblaster squad you can buy 4 lascannon devs.

>>55252307

>Scouts in an astral knight list

Srsly....

>>55252991
>wouldnt make news
>wouldnt make news
>is implausible

>>55253013
>literally who author
It's shit

>>55253013

Bill looks more fabolous then ever

Look at his face!

>>55253013
PRIMARIS
C
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>>55253013
THat grandad looking face

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some audio

>>55253027
the name sounds plenty familiar to me

>>55253026
>Local shitposter is an asscunt
>More at 11

>>55252991
>Corporation being sued for 62.5M faces new front after employee is fired for misconduct

thats not a new front and massive companies deal with multiple legal battles on a monthly basis, this would be the smallest drop in an ocean

>>55253013
Anyone notice we sure are getting a lot of Slannesh books here recently? At they setting up for new noise + Primaris chaos and with the new Yannari book maybe the secret chaos eldar faction?

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Perpetuals and shit.

>>55252847
None of them

>>55253013
Fabius is going to genetically enhance Necrons XD.

>>55252860
Where? Venezuela?

>>55253056
WE

>>55253066

Pretty sure it's burgerland, so close enough

>>55253051
>slannesh
>Yannari
>also has chaos eldar fantasies
you're the worst, Anon

>>55253066
Sounds like US law

>>55253051
>two
OH SHIT ITS HABBEDIBGNNSNNS!!1!one!1!

>>55252863
Not going to happen. Dark Mech will eventually get their own book, probably.

>>55253103
WUZ

>>55253090
>>55253087
That's some mighty weak labour law.

>>55252860
>most businesses can terminate employment at will with no reason given

not in england, its very hard to fire someone without laying them off with a big payment or they did something amounting to gross misconduct

one of my employees went on sick leave and it turned out he had moved house which was nearly 4 hours drive away and had no intention of coming back, but was milking sick pay and holiday accrual as much as he could, despite the fact it isn't reasonable to assume he could travel to work every day we couldn't use that as his resignation, nor could we fire him for truancy even after his allowed sick pay was all paid up

>>55253103
>instead of the coal skin and red eyes, its just a black guy
someone paid money for this

>>55252863
>chaos mech
I literally hope this won't happen. Chaos got enough stuff already. Give me some shiny new Tech to toy with as AdMech, not 'wew it's literally admech but with chaos keyword' shit.
chaosfags pls go and leave admech alone ok

>>55253113
Because labour law is communism dummy

>>55253088
I can't stand Yannari but they will more than likely be staving off Slannesh in some form. Just seems like a push for Slannesh stuff naw mean? Lucian gets a book then Fabius then waifu wanking with Yannari on crone worlds.

>>55253125
>admech autism
Literal pottery

>>55253125
Dark Mech is a major faction in the lore that still needs releases and fleshing out, just like AdMech did before the Skittles Codex. They'll get one eventually, but it won't be this book.

Is Fabulous Bilegoing to steal something from Trazyn?

>>55252517
Soul Drinkers.

>>55253066
Burgerland laws
Pretty much anywhere else they need a reason. Most of the time shitty one is enough.

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>>55253138
>chaos trying to get even more toys while they already got most of their shit
Nope, but there are people here who don't play chaos and don''t want "Yay chaos!" spilled all over them.

>>55253139
Fine by me, but I don't hope this will happen in this codex. Give them one when all the others got theirs.

>>55253166
I dont play any chaos, but dark mech is a pretty big part of the fluff. They deserve some love

>>55253113
At-will employment. It's a much beloved part of US law, at least by the business community anyway. Employees complaining about working conditions? Fire them. Some of your workers talking about maybe unionizing? Fire them.

Combine with extremely weak whistleblower protections, it's great for businessmen. Someone who works for you discovers that you're breaking the law? Threaten to fire them. You're just facing a potential fine if you're found out, while he's potentially facing a massive disruption in his life, so you can pretty effectively intimidate people into silence.

>>55252059
Says the person anonymously posting about playing with plastic toys on an image board.

>>55252810
>The Cawl Cockup

>>55252097
It never fails to amuse me when socially awkward neckbeards that would shit themselves in the company of anything other than their waifu pillows, start trying to act alpha on here.

>>55253077
WUZ

>>55253184

>Combine with extremely weak whistleblower protections,
I work in medicine and there are actually very good whistle blower laws.

>>55253122
ooga booga kill whitey wit hamma

>>55253166
>imperium trying to get even more toys while they already got 300 datasheets compared to chaos' 96
Nope, but there are people here who don't play imperium and don''t want "Yay emperor!" spilled all over them.

FTFY

>>55253013
He looks like a Catholic priest about to tap his first altar boy. It's creepy as fuck.

>>55252973
the upside is that most people are unfamiliar with it, so they assume it's more dangerous than it is and spend way too much firepower trying to kill it early.

>>55253122
Some just ain't into the whole Demonigga look

>>55252307
I'd say go for the 'I need to be told what to do all the time because I'm a fucking WAAC dipshit with no imagination' tactic

>>55253166
>An imperium fag complains that he doesn't have enough toys

You fangays literally have no self awareness do you?

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>>55253088
> Chaos eldar "fantasies".

>>55253027
his previous Fabius Bile book was one of the best books of the past 5 years

Are Paladin Ancients worth it or should I go with 4 Paladins and an Apothecary, rather than 3 Paladins and an Ancient? My HQ would be a Chaplain for the melee rerolls and the First to the Fray warlord trait so they could all reroll charges within 6" of him.

>>55253057
Well obviously that's not a choice.

>>55253303
You know, I wonder if they might not end up being degraded/daemonic Eldar or something like that that serve as an alternate back up unit for Slaanesh armies, like Tzaangor for Tzeentch, as opposed to a whole new faction.

>>55253326

+1A aura is defently good.

>>55253326
he's worth it with that relic but other paladins are absurdly expensive for not alot of improvement aside from a few attacks and another wound

take him alongside 2 squads of 10 purifiers and a brother captain, shit them out within 6" of the enemy and blow 1+3d6 mortal wounds at them, follow up with a load of stormbolter shots and then charge with falchion spam

>>55253362
I've already discussed this tactic with another anon but it's too unreliable and too much of a one trick pony AND too expensive to consider seriously.

>>55253337
Maybe so that'd be pretty neat. Rumors say they are charging up for a new faction who else'd be a good candidate for it?

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>>55251927
>all those mortal wounds
PLAGUEBOIS WHERE WE AT

>>55253310
Reynolds can be a very good writer or absolute shit.

>>55252074
Grave wardens are to the left.

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>tfw 40k is expensive as fuck in this 3rd world shit country that i live
>tfw can only satisfy my 40k hunger with electronic games

Sorry guys i just needed to vent, i hope no one here is on this boat

>>55253303
Oh yeah I see it clearly now, new books and minis and boxed games for chaos eldar yeah that'll happen

>>55253387
its not that bad with a stormraven but yes it is expensive

I've had good milage with it but recently dropped them for Ordo Malleus mix with strike teams

inquisitor warlord inside a prometheus being buffed by a jokero and coteaz hiding behind it
2 dakka GM dreadknights, 2x 10 man and 1x 5man strike squads with falchions

a 10 man strike squad deepstriking = 40 stormbolter shots, rerolling 1s from GMDK, use the psybolts stratagem (which now costs 1 CP because of the prometheus) and you suddendly have 13 heavy bolters shitting on whatever you need

this also works with the GMDKs for s5 ap-1 psylincers and s8 ap-2 psycannons

>>55253429
where you at, Aus? NZ?

>>55253429
>poor pleb
You can buy it cheaper than the USA in Chile. A bloody third world country

>>55252201
You'll probably get regular tanks when Cyraxus comes out. Krios and triarios and all that.
I know that book could be 10 years away but still.

>>55252150
>take both
>Heavy 32 S5 AP-3 D1

>>55253222
Sounds like you are projecting buddy

>>55253446
More than likely not boxed games. I could see maybe a unit like this guy said
>>55253337
Two emperors Children books and a crone world book are a possibility for shenanigans though I'd say.

>>55253525
Yup, although you do have to pay 120pts in weapons, so 20 more than las pred, for that pleasure.

Plus it's only 36" range and Heavy.

>>55253222
> Tips triple chin.

>>55253429
If you are suffering in Ukraine I'm able to help you out

>>55253303
>Slaneshi beastelves

>>55253418
Why are guts coming out of his chest?

>>55253599
>we want the every degenerate fetish possible dollar.

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>>55253418
Waiting for releases. Thinking of running my plague marines in units of seven with powerfist, blight launcher, plasma gun, two flails, and two boltguns (because they're already assembled that way otherwise I'd take axe and mace). Might swap the plasma gun for a special death guard gun instead just to make it more exotic.

>>55253098
>lucius
>Fabius
>Yannari (crone world)
> storm of silence (immediately after fall)
>two :^)

>>55253702
That is a bit of Slannesh after so long with not much for real though right?

>>55252586

You have to go back, interloper

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>>55253013
Is the first Fabulous Bill book any good or is it typical bolter porn?

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>>55253649
Remember to make your army literally immune to shooting.

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>>55252671

Kinda boring, senpai. Put some baggage, company numbers/kill markings/sayings, tank commanders, anything to give them some personality.

>>55253770
>"I don't know how to read" the post

>>55253782
What are you implying anon? The strategem obviously prevents a unit from being shot at.

>>55252593

This is the same company that wouldn't allow players to have conversions using LoTR models used in-store in WHFB armies, and vice versa a while back.

And that was 2 of their own lines.

>>55253770
That only means "Your Hellblasters can't shoot at my Plague Marines because my Poxwalkers are closer to you".

>>55253603
who says those are HIS guts.

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>>55253040
yeahhhh my bois elysians getting some more love loving it

I'm looking at building a Genestealer cult army, but I'm stuck on a colour scheme.

My Imperial Guard army is grey fatigues and black armour, and red markings. Do you reckon it would look terrible if I did my cultists up in orange jumpsuits etc, and used red swatches of colour to try and tie them together?

I am loathe to create a whole new set of tanks/guardsmen for my cult to ally with when I have thousands of points of Imperial Guard already.

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>>55253040
That art is a bit mediocre. Like, is GW hiring amateurs on commission?

>>55253770
Have you actually tried this idiocy?

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OK hear me out

it's a lite xcom but with wh40k miniatures; photo-realistic graphics of plastic miniatures with plastic miniature world, like a high end real-life thing

when you move or shoot with your dudes, the miniatures come to life before reverting back to being idle miniatures

$20 early access on steam

any takers?

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>bring two units of 30 conscripts, 4 units of plasma scions, otherwise nothing similar to any high tier lists, no tauroxes, no celestine, no mortars
>had hellhounds, rough riders ogryns, and leman russes
>get accused of being a netlister after beating someone
When will guard players be able to claim they won a game off merit again?

>>55253820
Common sense is too much for him.

>>55253869
Uhh yeah sure get on it m8!

>>55253852
No, I don't play Death Guard.

Who was their primarch again?? I don't remember him doing literally anything during the heresy.

>>55253889
>merely pretending

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>>55253889

>>55253869

>X-com
>Lite

So, what's the point of the game?

>>55253567
>punisher Russ has no AP 20 shots
>9 hbolters that can't move and fire at 4+
>needs a stubber to match 32 shots
>180 pts

>Preds come at 90pts base cost before wargear

you have no concept of value for points

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>>55253905

>>55253889
>Doesn't play Death Guard.
Asshole WAACfag detected.

>>55253932
Is that a...

>>55253749
it's fucking amazing, it's about a group of chaos apothecaries (another EC, a world eater an iron warrior along with a word bearer who was ordered to kill Fabius by Erebus but fucked up and now has a bunch of bombs implanted in him and has to follow Fabius) who go on a mission with Fabius

>>55253928
But anon our tanks get toughness 8 and 12 wounds!!!!!
because a lascanon totally cares about that extra toughness and wound

>>55253927
I'm not a triple a dev m8

>>55253887
how triggered would you be if it had nothing in common with board game rules

>>55253952
I am untriggerable mah nigga.

>>55253943
Neon genesis evangelion reference yes

>>55253958
would it appeal to board gamers anyway or nah? because I see all these wh40k properties pop up now that relic no longer has exclusive rights

>>55253952
>how triggered would you be if it had nothing in common with board game rules
Make the protagonists female space marines and I'll think about it.

>>55253950

A lascannon does not, but a melta does

>>55253928
>Las Pred is literally Havoic Lascannons tacked on Predator chassis
>SR Pred is literally Rubric Soulreapers tacked onto Predator Chassis
>"bawww my tougher and cheaper Russ can't do same amount of damage"

Fucking Guard WAACfags, I swear.

>>55253973
>game story written by ADB

>>55251957
WHERE IS DUNCAN!

>>55253952

At that point just make a necromunda TBS game

>>55253983
Have you ever even played with or against a russ variant?
Or are you just using this as an opportunity to fling shit at guard players?

>>55253983

Except Laspred has 4 lascannon
Your proposal would have 4/8 soulreaper PLUS THE FUCKING MAIN WEAPON

>>55251956
painted my storm talon after it's sat on my shelf since the model was first released

>>55253995
There's a surprising amount of Necromunda maps on TTS already. I know this from my failed attempts to find a Shadow War game on there.

>>55253995
Necromunda vidya already confirmed nigga

>>55253815
That was because of the agreement between New Line Cinema for the LOTR licence. It's also why the minis are a different scale to WHFB and why the game wasn't a direct WHFB port.

>>55254013

I know, NM has an active TTS community.

But some people might prefer a more structured game, without having to roll dices, discuss about cover/LOS and possibly with a singleplayer option.

>>55253946

That sounds pretty damn good.

>>55254010
>Except Laspred has 4 lascannon

Which are 100pts total. Eight Soulreapers are 120pts total, and again have double downside of being Heavy and having relatively short range.

Although eight SCs put slightly more wounds on T6-9 targets

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>>55251957

>>55254065
Eight cannons seems a bit much, I suggest twin SRCannons for main gun and sponson Heavy Warpflamer.

Kinda like the Baal Predator, but TSons version.

Will Craftworld Eldar get plastic Shadow Spectres?

>>55254065
Have you ever played this game or do you just sit and mathhammer all day long?

>>55253567
>only 36" range
On a vehicle that moves 12"

>and Heavy.
Good thing Prescience adds +1 to counter Heavy

And with the amount of dakka it brings it would do ~6/7 Wounds to a vehicle while a quad Las does 1-8/1-11 with an average of 5/6.

So it is ALMOST as reliable AT, but it chews through 14/17 guardsmen / 12/15 Marines while the Quad Las only kills 2-3

>So you made a tank that is infinitely better at Anti-Infantry and ALMOST as good as Anti-Tank for ONLY 2pts more. Not mentioning you completely invalidate the Heavy Bolter Sponson option.

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>>55254152
No

>>55254159
>plays a game based 90% on math
>Looks down on mathhammer

You don't win many games, huh?

>>55253870
>When will guard players be able to claim they won a game off merit again?

If Grey Knight hate is anything to go off of... 2-3 editions

>>55253183
As stated fine by me, but give some love first before demanding shit. :^)

>>55253231
>>55253300
Oh I see the triggered chaos-police is here :^)

>>55254065

Are you dense or just trolling?

1) You cannot make up points like that. A soulreper is 20pt. Now twin-quad weapon have usually a SMALL "discount" (but not always), so let's say 37pt for a twin would be reasonable, 30pt is ridicolous.

Laspred had 4 lascannons TOTAL, 50pt on sponsons and 50 on main gun

Your proposal has 4 soulrepers (64pt) or 8 (128pt) ON SPONSONS ALONE, with main gun still open.

>>55253015
This proposal is reasonable, with the quad main changed to a triple one for 55ish points

>>55253150
>Soul Drinkers
>Cool

Pick one

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>>55253994
>No daily Duncan for two weeks now
I-is he alright?

>>55254166
>Not mentioning you completely invalidate the Heavy Bolter Sponson option.
Entire point of Soulreaper is being better HB in TSon army.
>>55254191
SC is 15pts, anon.

>>55254191
What a long winded way of saying you're an idiot

>>55254215
He's been spending a loot of time doing the How to paint Mortarion, How to Paint Nurgle Command Squad, How to paint Deathshroud Terminators, and various other DG-related videos.

>>55254177
>thinks 40k is based almost solely on math
Dude... just stop, if you need to fling insults at anyone who disagrees with you it may mean you just have a bad argument

>>55254216

Ten my bad on points.

Does not change the fact that sponson weapons are equivalent to a single HW choice and main weapons usually to a double one (but i could see a triple soulreaper, as it would be somewhat comparable to a twin asscan)

>>55254238
>you're an idiot
>LOL WER IS UR ARUGMENT!!! STRAWMAN STRAWMAN STREEEEEEEEE
>you're an idiot here's why
>lol tl;dr XDD
Fuck I hate this place

>>55254175
If DG is getting plastic Deathshrouds, why not?

>>55254253

Well it really depends

Mathammer fails short for short ranged units, but is generally fairly accurate for long-range backline gunlines

>>55254216
>Not mentioning you completely invalidate the Heavy Bolter Sponson option.
>Entire point of Soulreaper is being better HB in TSon army.

>Predators normally only can add Heavy Bolter sponsons.
>You want to add Twin Soulreapers sponsons... for SOME REASON.

I don't know why you didn't just say may take Heavy Warpflamer / Soulreapers as sponsons.

Fits the Predator profile infinitely better and save the Twin options for the Land Raider

>>55254253
It's not even an argument
It's a weapon being objectively better at something

Just because you think "A lascannon is made to kill tanks, therefore it's better at killing tanks than this other gun" means absolutely jack shit

>>55251956
Been moving the past week so no. Finally, if things don't go too bad with the incoming hurricane I can sit down and paint some Kommandos I have some base coats on.

>>55254267
What the actual fuck does any of this mean

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Laurie Goldberg wrote
>Draigo used true name of Mortarion, a name that Emperor intended for him.
ADB wrote
>it's "Fourteen"
Black Library at it's finest.

>>55254307

>Painting past hurricane
>90% humidity for a month untill all the puddles drain

Yeah, no.

>>55251956
I've been really sick with bowel issues and I've been in bed eating nothing but soup for the last few days. Hopefully the test results find out what it is so I can move forward with something to treat it. Taking fucking MONTHS.

>>55254022
Let's hope it is not like the Mordheim one.
I enjoy it, but god damn it was sillly that skaven exchanged blows with a sister of sigmar or a chaos spawn

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>>55251956
I'm painting and assembling Assault Terminators now. I somehow lost a shield, but luckily I still have those Stormcast shields, back when I thought it might be a good idea to file them off their symbols, slap some etched brass onto it and use it as stormshield instead. Unfortunately they don't come with hands, at all. So I guess one of my first company elite will have a stump with a shield permanently grafted onto it.
Or I'll just get a hand from my bitzbox.

>>55254284
Mathhammer changes based on these factors
>range of gun
>number of shots
>terrain mattering
>Consistency of abilities on both sides
So probably the best example of pure mathhammer would be 6 or more basilisks with Harker supporting them
>retarded range
>2D6 pick the highest so number of shots is more consistant
>doesn't need LoS
>Harker doesn't need to roll or anything to give his buff
>And with such a high number any weird outliers should be canceled out by ones in the opposite direction
It's not the best unit or anything, but it's a unit where you can more reasonably know how much damage it will do if brought in high enough numbers to offset bad luck

>>55254341

Option A: mono
Option B: Nurgle's rot

>>55254323
why has nobody raped ADB's son by now?

What weapons should I give my Venerable Dreadnought? They all seem pretty cool.

>>55254281
Because new Deathshroud are different from 30k ones, plague and stuff.

>>55254323
>the Primarch's real names were One, Two, Three, Four...
fucking what

So, Im a sucker for limited edition minis, is the 40k 30 years anniversary primaris Sargent some kind of hero? (or HQ or whatever they are called in 40k)

Is fucking 35$ for 1 small sprue.

>>55253777
That chimera is gonna sleep comfy as fuck tonight.

>>55254395

always a fan of rifleman dreads

Twin autos are good this edition.

>>55254323
>CHAPTER MASTER IS DOWN! WE ONLY HAVE 14 MEN LEFT IN THE FIELD! RETREAT NOW!
>Mortarion freezes, horrified that his true name is a fucking number

>>55253017
Wait, is it out? Been waiting years for that book.

>>55254408
Numbered mistakes.

>>55254409
No, it's literally the same as the other Primaris models.

You could make one yourself with bitz from ebay for like $10, if that.

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>>55254341
It's either AIDS or Crotch Rot.

>>55253870
>>bring two units of 30 conscripts, 4 units of plasma scions
That already makes you a huge faggot.

>>55253040
>It's not heresy if we're both screaming

>>55254425
See, I thought it'd be kinda cool if their names were untranslated. Like, their names are legit English, not High Gothic.

>>55254152
Ahahahahah

>>55253974
friendly reminder that if your tanks get meltas shoved up their ass you suck at screening deep strikes

>>55254425
>Ummm...uhhh....I knew this will be controversial, but the daemon primarchs are super special and can outwill their daemon name so you need to be more powerful than Chaos to banish them with their real name, so Chaos wins!
t. ADB

>>55254469
>implying I need deepstrike to shove melta up your ass

>>55254408
Surprisingly it wasn't the emperor's autism and detachment causing him to label his sons with numbers, he was just listening to "nuthin but a g thang"
>one, two, three and to the four, these new sons will win this galactic war

>>55254400
Nightspinners were once FW models, right?

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>>55253983
Wrong on all counts. That's your minimum price for two cannons in a rubric team. If you want sponsons they'd have to be 60 points roughly for the pair. Plus the tank cost. I doubt they'd make a Baal Predator: Blue edition. If they did it would be a pretty heavy hitting anti-heavy infantry contender that could put damage on lighter vehicles with scary effectiveness.

>>55254469
Or your army is too expensive that doesn't have cheap units to screen without dipping into allied detachments.

>>55253749
It's pretty good.

I'd say it's 75 percent Bile and other Apothecaries, 25 percent bolter porn.

it's available in the mega in the OP. Worth a read.

>>55254559
What shit army are you playing that can't screen?

>>55254582
Probably some kind of marinecuck army

>>55254559
Three Knights, still able to get a hundred conscripts, with room for more. They may not be durable or anything, but the Knights can go to town, I guess.
Then again, the thought of painting a hundred conscripts would stop me. I'd rather ally AdMech in.

>>55254394
Slannesh called dibs.

>>55254559
I am hard pressed to think of an army outside of Necrons that don't have cheap as shit screen bodies or access to them.