Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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FIRST FOR CUTEDAR

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Does Farsiders fit for a fleet based chapter that operates in crusades and distant sectors?

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>>55226220
FUCK YOU
SISTERS A QT !

>>55226220
That isn't cute, that's sexy.

How shit are Plaguebearers?

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>want to play my blood angels
>index BA have jack shit in terms of flavor
At least Ad Mech is coming out soon. Maybe they'll have something to them.

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>>55226220
>>55226263
First for cute Tyranid

>>55226275
They're alright in big numbers and with a herald.

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How is my aura/infantry focused CF army looking?

>>55226201
So, starting my new Ynnari Eldar force; I am trying to get Yvraine for my army, but she is either super expensive or out of stock. I also don't want to blow 85$ on a box set including a tranny god and a beta-orbiter boyfriend. So what are some good alternatives to Yvraine?

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>>55226263
I HAD TO QUICKLY SELECT SOMETHING ANON AND THAT WAS FIRST ONE.

>>55226352
could always sell the other two minis you don't want on ebay or something

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>>55226220

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???

The flies and cloud indicate Mortation is going down but the cloth indicates he's going up.

What's going on?

???

>>55226357
BUT YOU POSTED THE OPPOSITE IMAGE OF THE TEXT THAT IS FALSE POSTERTIZING

>>55226422
Slow down son, this is a blue board!

>>55226434
All are manifestations of his will.
Applying natural laws to it is pointless.

>>55226434
Retard

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Dedicated skittle APC when?

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>tfw you get THE DEALS

You anons get any great eBay deals recently?

What's the most fun Chaos Legion to play in this edition?
I'm currently going Crimson Slaughter, but that was solely because I started with Dark Vengeance.
Thousand Sons look interesting, but at the same time I don't want to be a Psyker unless the mechanics changed to actually be entertaining.

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>>55226435
YOUR OBSERVATIONS SHALL NOT SURVIVE THE HOUR!

>>55226466

Snagged 7 metal incubi for £30

>>55226466
I got a recast Leviathan with Storm Cannon and Claw for a little under $50. I'm hoping he's not horribly fucked up.

>>55226480
YET THIS THREAD SHALL BE ARCHIVED. THEY WILL ENDURE.

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what would you call a nurgle aligned night lords offshoot?

I presume something about night and scythes and reaping or something.

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>>55226538
Sounds like Mon'keigh propaganda to me.

>>55226548
Fly Lords (Lords of the Flies, if you want to be cheeky)

>>55226548

Fart reapers

>>55226434
He is floating. The clouds underneath are keeping him afloat and above are just floating away like smoke.

>>55226563
And your false prophesy is laid bare for all to see, xenos filth.

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Give me some Tau vs Imperium Novels REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>55226465
Wtf is that? And how big is it? Looting the shit out of that for my Orks so my warboss can have a bling ass ride. Is it Trukk size or battlewagon size?

>>55226402
Not a bad idea; but I'm not sure anybody would want to split it. The two other Eldar players are a old school Aspect player and a actual transgender person who plays Dark Eldar.

>>55226470

Alpha is cool for power gaming, the ability to infiltrate a bunch of units could be fun if you set up some ambushes.
I like emperors children for the noisey boys, sonic dreads and lucius is my favourite character because the idea of a bunch of screaming lunatics gaining euphoria in battle appeals to me.
It's up to you man what you like.

>>55226576
Already exist, well as a undefined GW namedrop.

>>55226466
Got a OOP metal warboss with attack squid for a ten spot, still in its packaging.

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>>55226591
Too busy preparing for the Final Dance.

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>>55226592
You know that tau will win?

>>55226201
>Regimental rules will be included in the new Imperial Guard Book
What are my fellow Guardsmen looking forward to seeing in the codex? I'm hoping regiment rulesso LRBTs the love they deserve and certain infantry units are toned down.

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>>55226595
Triaros Armoured Conveyer, for HH Mechanicum and really damn expensive. Like over £80, but kinda hueg.

>>55226631
You think fem tau ever get weird with that slit on their forehead?

>>55226595
30k MECHANICUM TRIAROS ARMOURED CONVEYER

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Mechanicum-Triaros-Armoured-Conveyer
Not sure on the size and I'm not buying from FW to find out.

>>55226632
As long as it includes Mordian iron Guard, I don't care.

>>55226652
Thanks, def closer to the size of a battlewagon.

>>55226606
Didn't even think about Alpha. I Am Alpharius is a really fucking goofy mechanic.
Are Noisy Boys good this edition?

How do you motivate yourself to finish that last bit on models?
I'm actually usually ok with getting started etc, but the finishing touches I seem incapable of doing.

My guess is it's knowing they're not great, and finishing it says I'm done despite them not looking good, but that doesn't help me do it.

I use the money I earn commission painting to buy warhammer shit.

I have $1200 in it.

What should I buy? No emperor titans or other fucking bullshit.

>>55226632

Infantry squads with over 10 models.
I don't like how commissars only benefit conscripts.
Carapace armour for infantry/vets would be nice too.

>>55226626
You danced your last ten thousand years ago, Eldar fool. What you call a dance are merely death throes of a doomed body.

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>>55226703
Stock in GW

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>>55226710
I'll get my sisters on you, bitch.

>>55226548
Fly Borne

>>55226718
You have received good training

What's a competitive elite force (small model count) I can suggest for my buddy?

Nightmare Mode: No Grey Knights or Space marines

Ultranightmare Mode: Make it Adeptus Mechanicus with no Titans/Knights

>>55226760
AdMech Kastellan, Onager, and Servitor Spam.

>>55226740
Try not to fuck them, Mother of Slaanesh.

>>55226778
>small model count
>hur dur spam servitors

>>55226548
The Blight Lords?

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>>55226778
Kastellan spam is the best spam.

Where can I find the results from the NOVA GT? Am I dumb? Couldn't find shit on their website.

Also kinda wanted to know the winners of capital palette - I couldn't go to the closing ceremony.

>>55226805
Battle Servitors, not lobotomized prisoners, you fucking ape.

>>55226548
The Grim Harvest.

>>55226709
I feel the carapace armour is unlikely, they removed armour options from almost everything (IG carapace, ork 'eavy armour, corsair voidplate, SM character artificer armour, etc.). Seems a purposeful design choice.

I've had a couple of idea to start a traitor guard army, can you do this in 8th? I can't seem to find any rules for it.
Mostly I would be playing against friends who are ok with a Chaos/Guard mix but it would be nice to know if I'm missing something about this somewhere.

>>55226858
It can be introduced if there is the model.
They don't push for conversions and creativity anymore and they are scared shitless of 3rd parties.

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>>55226803
Too busy trying with my son.

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>play battle royal at 500pts with 2 friends
>be AdMech
>enemy is CSM and SpaceAwooo
>get to pick best position on plate first
>both ignore me straigth because 'lol AdMech xd'
>punish everything from afar with lasers n shiet
>win by outright picking up important kills from far away and objectives
>mfw they asked me how I could do it by not partipating in the heavy fights midgame

Man, sometimes it feels good to be the underdog.
I still wish for a decent buff in the codex

>>55226878
Renegades
and
Heretics
FW Chaos index

>>55226878
Forgeworld

>>55226894
>nieR cosplay.jpg

>>55226760
my 1500 aspect/mech eldar army has 24 models counting the tanks

>>55226902
What was your list anon? I can't into 500 pints with a fucking 135 point HQ tax

>>55226905
>>55226907

Thanks guys

I've got a almost complete helbrute Sprue as a leftover from a conversion, whats a good Loadout to kit the Badboy out with?

>>55226821
>>55226778
>>55226837
>>55226956


Example lists? Thank you!

>>55226201
Heres a question, my buddy plays Death Guard and he says you dont get disgusting resiliance from Mortal wounds where as I think you do, who is right here?

>>55226992
All wounds.

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>>55226992
You are.

This was FAQd somewhere.

>>55226992
its works on mortal-wounds its effectively FnP, Mortal wounds bypass saves but they dont bypass anything else

>>55226992
Hes an idiot. All FNP effects kick in after you LOSE wounds, regardless of their type.

>>55226981
ynnari army (can do as craftworlds, replace yvraine with whatever)

Sup command detachment
Autarch with wings, missile launcher, psword and banshee mask
2x Warlock with conceal/reveal

Vanguard detachment
Yvraine
2x3 shadow spectres
5 Wraithguard with d-cannons
2x3 Dark Reapers (2+ exarch) all with reaper launchers
2x wave serpents with twin bright lance, shuriken cannon and whatever upgrades + spirit stones
1x wave serpent with 3x shuriken cannons, star engines, vectored engines and spirit stones

>>55226778
>>55226760
Here's a free list, too. 5 mins and I don't know shit about Admech. It took me longer to reformat it than to actually make it.
New Roster (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [101 PL, 2000pts]

Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Adeptus Mechanicus)

HQ

Tech-Priest Dominus: Eradication Ray, Phosphor Serpenta

Troops
Skitarii Rangers: 4x Skitarii Ranger
Ranger Alpha: Galvanic rifle

Elites
Cybernetica Datasmith: Gamma pistol, Power fist

Heavy Support
Kastelan Robots
2x Kastelan Robot: 3x Heavy Phosphor blaster

2x Onager Dunecrawler: Cognis heavy stubber, Smoke Launchers
Neutron laser & cognis heavy Stubber: Cognis heavy stubber, Neutron Laser

-Battalion Detachment +3CP-

HQ
Belisarius Cawl
Tech-Priest Dominus: Eradication Ray, Phosphor Serpenta

Troops
3x Kataphron Breacher: Arc claw, Torsion Cannon

3x Kataphron Breacher: Arc claw, Heavy arc rifle

3x Kataphron Destroyer: Phosphor blaster, Plasma Culverin

Elites
Cybernetica Datasmith: Gamma pistol, Power fist

Heavy Support
Kastelan Robots
2x Kastelan Robot: 3x Heavy Phosphor blaster

>>55226655
Do you like nostril play?

>>55226981
Read here: >>55227034

>>55227029
replace 1 warlock with a farseer, it all comes to under 1500

In the off chance there is a /wip/ here
>>55227050

>>55226957
Dominus, Volkite + Stubber. Nothing to fancy.
10 squad of Vanguards, 2 Plasma + 1 Arc Rifle (would've changed the arc rifle, had it equipped for anti-tank and vehicle matters for another game), Omnispex
Alpha comes with Powersword
Crawler with double stubbers and Neutron Laser, Smokes too. King of the battle because he could smack around approaching infantry with those stubbers like no other in combo with the vanguards.

I was missing about 40 points up to 500 iirc. You might change stuff to fit in 5 mire vanguards, e.g. remove the arc rifle to put another 5 man vanguard on plate (didn't have the models to do so)

>>55226312
bumping once

>>55227094
I initially misread that as 10 squads of vanguard

The 500 point list I tried used a pair of ironstriders with autocannons, since I figured a single laser wasn't enough

With your body count that low it feels like they would have instantly deleted you if they had thought to

Good to hear it worked out for you, though

I feel like every Eldar list has Shadow Spectres now, what's up with that?

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How's that Armies on Parade entry going, Anon?

>>55227191

-1 to being hit is really strong and their guns are really strong and they're pretty darn cheap

>>55227191
I have them since 2013, everybody jumped into the bandwagon because they are 23ppm 12+d6" flying heavy flamers on a good body (3+ save -1 to be hit)
Tbh I just play the craftworld as per the fluff, other than yvraine, and that's because the gf gave me the triumvirate

>>55227162
Yea, as stated, I got a pretty sick position by rolling (top of a bridge where you needed 2 turns to get up to).

Yea, I hate our low body count too. Even though the wolves player didn't have that much more, his army did pack a lot more saves with his storm shields and priest in the back.

How were the striders doin? I'm thinking of buying some after I get some Kastallan Robots for morr dakka.

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>>55226434
It's going to be a bitch to carry that to gamestores without pieces breaking off

>>55227206
My GW won't let people enter without them doing a display board as well. I can't be arsed to create a terrain board I'll never use again, so have kind of given up on the whole thing.

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>>55226592
I want Tau vs Chaos novels.

>>55226631
>vagina heads winning from superior machine god apparatus

I think not.

>>55226655
They have a Y, and do you get weird with your nostrils? Because it's basically the same thing.

>>55227226
I haven't actually gotten the chance to use them. Mathhammer wise they're surprisingly durable, but before my vacation I was still theorycrafting with AdMech and then a hurricane happened

Eldar and Sisters are the only armies I have actual experience using in 8e

But my attempt at a 500 point list was something like a small team of rangers, a dominus, 2 autocannon strides, and a back of 10 corpus-whatever anti swarm priests

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>>55227248
I love possessed, mine slaughtered their way through a huge mass of vanguard vets on their first game.

>>55227240
>Create personalized container lined with foam
>Put in box with other such containers

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>>55227248
>mfw I bought Farsight-Crisis-of-Faith thinking it would be Tau getting b-but muh science and m-magic doesn't exist owned by chaos but it turned out to be a Tau wankfest

You can do up something as simple as a picture frame with the glass removed and filled in with some sand.

>>55227311
>Nurgling decides the foam is comfy and hugs it while you tilt the model to make sure the smoke on the scythe doesn't get stuck on the foam


Snap

you would think the soul grinders would be sent in to clean up the materials more.

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>>55227269
Last time they won. Imperium wants to take the planet, and ends up in destroying it.

Tau always have stuipid victories because reason.

How many special weapons can I have per guardsmen squad? I think I fucked up and have two per...

Who is doing armies on parade?

>>55227306
Sounds interesting. Saving this for later. Thanks anon.

>>55227386
read the index

>>55227386
YOU FUCKED UP

Would you guys accept Commander Shadowsun models (xv22 stealth suits) as count as Crisis Suits? I'm really not a fan of how the Tau mechas look. I get that they are a bit smaller than the real deal. How much does it matter to you guys?

>>55227424
DAMMIT! NOW I GOTTA GET A SHITTY 5 PACK OF CONSCRIPTS TO CORRECT THE MISTAKE

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>>55227386

>>55227386

Holy shit. Read your index.

>>55227429
a proxy being smaller that the real unit becomes a problem

>>55227403
At the rate i'm going I'll enter next year.
I said the same thing last year, i'ts not going to happen

>>55227448
>>55227445
I recognize my fuck up. I will correct the issue as soon as I possibly can.

>>55226434

This is the problem with over designed cad. Nothing makes sense.

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>Everyone looking at Morty.
>No one notices the true scion of nurgle.

Is giving a model a smaller base than intended modelling for advantage? I'd like to give my Rippers smaller bases to make them look more crowded together, but I don't want to appear like winning at any cost is my goal.

>>55227489
literally the first thing I noticed when I saw the model

>>55227412
Thanks. AdMech tilts my brain hard, because I'm very hit hard hit fast alpha strike in my preferred tactics. Shining spears, melta dominions in an Immolator, etc

So AdMech throw me for a loop cause I'm not used to trying to factor long range line of sight and footslogging

>>55227499
add more rippers to each base, solved without metagaming any advantage

>>55227450

Yeah, I guess that's the problem. Would it work if i placed them on larger bases and counted the whole base as a cylinder when it comes to spotting the model or something?

>>55227499

Blasts aren't a thing anymore, so it only matters in assault where they aren't great anyway.

>>55226548
The Hand of Despair

also, your a faggot for trying to bandwagon NL Ld bombs

>>55227518
That was my first idea, but if I did that, I'd have a grand total of 3 ripper bases, with eight rippers on each. I'd rather put two or three on a minimum size base, but again, I don't want to be a waacfag.

I have 4 different posing vindicare models and really wana use em but i'm a gk player, this is the best list i could come up with, any suggestions /tg/


Battalion detachment
HQ
Grand master voldis – 190
Castellan crowe – 125

Troops
10 man Strike squad force falchions + storm bolters + 2 psileners - 214
10 man Strike squad force falchions + storm bolters +2 psilencers – 214
10 man Strike squad force falchions + storm bolters + 2 psilencers - 214

Elite
2x Paladin squads with force falchions + storm bolters – 512

4x vindicare assassin - 360
HS
Nemesis dreadknight with great sword and heavy psycannon - 170

Total 1999

Feels like i'm gonna lose my games hard but least i'll have fun taking out girlymans and other big hq's

>>55227515
Yea. I always feels like 'kill everything which approaches you'. Hide and make terrain your ally. Whenever I get into melee, I always feel like getting outbashed heavily.

Most of the time I reshuffle my army backwards/sidewards. Dominus is actually a pretty decent bumphead for incoming melees since he can heal himself every turn for D3 and has a good save for himself. The Pistol 5 is also pretty good in CC.

>>55227562
just get some oyumaru/blue stuff and cast your own to pad out bases with

>>55226434
I was about to say going down in a crosswind, but the censer smoke and cowl cloth are moving in the opposite direction, and it's weirding me out.

>>55227574
that moment i realize i derped on the math for paladins.

>>55227535
I know they aren't a competitive choice, being good is not why I'm taking them. I just want a dense swarm of rippers to deepstrike along with my Raveners and Trygon. I'm a big fan of Tyranids without the awkward dick-meatguns in their hands.

>>55226466
I got an entire gang of each necromunda gang, along with a few other oldhammer metal minis for just over $120. Feeling great now that necromunda is coming back.

>>55227589
I'm waiting for the codex to commit much, because I adore kataphron destroyers aesthetically but they're squishy and expensive so I can't justify fielding them yet

While ironstriders and dragoons struggle to earn back their points

Almost scared to post since it's Ultramarines but rate muh list?

1502 pts - 7 Comm Points

Battalion

Terminator Captain - Combi plasma, lightning claw.

Captain - Combi plasma, chainsword.

3x5 man tactical squads - Combi plasma, chainsword sgt., plasma gun.

5xSternguard - Special issue boltguns, chainsword sgt.

Vanguard Detachment

Chaplain in Terminator Armour

5x Cataphractii Terminators - 3 power fists, 1 chain fist, 4 combi bolters, heavy flamer, lightning claw sgt.

Contemptor Dreadnought - Assault cannon.

5x Tartaros Terminators - 3 power fists, reaper autocannon, 2 chainfists, plasma blaster sgt.

Devastator Squad - 3 heavy bolters, ammo cherub, 2 boltguns, chainsword sgt.

Using all 30k plastics that I got off Ebay for cheap. It was down to Raven Guard or Ultras and I didn't want to paint black power armour so I went with Ultras.

>>55227641
>ultramarines
>1502
Faggot

>>55226718
But, anon, haven't you heard that GW is losing money and going out of business because my uncle works there and he told me so.

>>55227574
now it feels even worse but here we go

Battalion detachment

HQ
Grand master voldis – 190
Castellan crowe – 125

Troops
10 man Strike squad falchions+ storm bolters + 2 psileners - 214
9 man Strike squad falchions + storm bolters +2 psilencers – 193
9 man Strike squad force halberd + storm bolters + 2 psilencers - 193

Elite
2x Paladin squads with falchions + storm bolters – 550

4x vindicare assassin - 360

HS
Nemesis dreadknight with great sword and heavy psycannon- 170

Total 1995

>>55227639
Same here. I hope they give us at least some decent buffs and maybe 1-2 new toys to play around with. I just wish to get out of the 'meh' spot and no longer be belittled by everyone else on the table when I put my AdMech there.

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>>55227660

>>55227641
Illegal in a 1500 point game.

>>55227641
>1502
fix this shit

>>55227704
>2 points over
>can easily fix it but doesn't because he's a faggot

>>55227705
>>55227724

holy autism we play pretty casual in my group

>>55227687
What would you do if you faced up against a mech/armored list?

>>55227687
You didn't pay for the fist on the dreadknight. It's stupid, but you have to pay for one fist even if you take a weapon.

Also taking a GM dreadknight is way better

>>55227739

I let guys go 20 pts over. We try to WYSIWYG so sometimes guys are bit over or under. No one cares in our group.

>>55227602
>The Tau Empire only works because the Etherals can mind-control the Fire Caste into doing their bidding and going against their innate aggressive nature, and the moment the Fire Caste as a whole realizes both how much power they have and how much the Etherals are manipulating them its game over for the Empire and any attempts at Tau/human cooexistence.

Farsight Enclaves say otherwise.

>>55227746
no Anon, you play ugly casual

>>55227756
spend command points to let me teleport my strike squads, voldis and termies can do that by default and pray i can melee to death

Anyone got the current Recaster catalogue?.

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>>55227746
Why should we critique it then? You're play group is pretty casual, so who fucking cares what you bring? You pretty clearly don't give a shit about the rules, so go put whatever the fuck you want on the table.

>>55227759
Crap. So what drop crowe and make it a gm dread knight?

>>55227746
Your list needs some more d6 weaponry. I'd recommend a couple las-devastators. That should bring you up to around 1578/1500, but I'm sure your friends won't mind.

>>55227769

OK OK you guys are right, you're awful and I shouldn't even bother trying to talk to you. Enjoy your cheeto breath and BO.

>>55227791
Sauce on that image

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What's the best way to equip an Iron Hands captain?

>>55227807

then we'd just play 1600... man you guys are fucking gay lmao

>>55227746
>2 points over
>why not 10?
>50?
>100
Why even play with points if you are not going to respect the limit.

Might as well play PL. 65 should be around 1500 points equivalent. Unless you need a 67 PL list too?

>>55226592
Yeah, I could be down for some superior tactical minds gunning down primitive retards with advanced technology, combat doctrine and advanced suits of armor. Mind the plot armor, though.

>>55227782
yes

>>55227774
My only real suggestion is to try to find some way of making sure you can weather an alpha strike from a mech list, because I can't see any way of you reliably alpha striking them first.

Anyone have the current recaster catalogue, or where do I get it.

>>55227437
Half my infantry is legit from 5 packs.

>>55227814
Ironclad dread suit.

Thoughts on my Biel-Tan list? I apologize for formatting, I broke my laptop so I'm stuck with phoneposting and can't figure out how to get mobile battlescribe to turn the list into an image for posting.

The idea is that it's a Swordwind, of course.

++ Outrider Detachment (CP +1) (Aeldari_Unified) [1996 Pts] ++

+ Troops +

>Dire Avengers [187 Pts]: Dire Avenger Exarch
9x Dire Avenger: 9x Avenger Shuriken Catapult
. Shimmershield and Power Glaive: Power Glaive, Shimmershield

+ Elites +

>Shadow Spectres [147 Pts]: Prism Blaster
. 5x Shadow Spectre: 5x Prism Rifle
. Shadow Spectre Exarch

>Striking Scorpions [125 Pts]: Striking Scorpion Exarch
. Scorpion Claw and Biting Blade: Biting Blade, Scorpion's Claw
. 4x Striking Scorpion: 4x Scorpion Chainsword

+ HQ +
>Autarch Skyrunner [130 Pts]: Banshee Mask, Forceshield, Fusion Pistol, Laser Lance, Twin Shuriken Catapult

+ Fast Attack +

>Hornets [150 Pts]: Crystal Targeting Matrix, Hornet, 2x Hornet Pulse Laser

>Hornets [150 Pts]: Crystal Targeting Matrix, Hornet, 2x Hornet Pulse Laser

>Hornets [150 Pts]: Crystal Targeting Matrix, Hornet, 2x Hornet Pulse Laser

>Shining Spears [201 Pts]: Shining Spear Exarch, Star Lance
. 5x Shining Spear: 5x Laser Lance

>Swooping Hawks [88 Pts]: Hawk's Talon, Swooping Hawk Exarch
. 4x Swooping Hawk: 4x Lasblaster

>Warp Spiders [114 Pts]: Spinneret Rifle, Warp Spider Exarch
. 4x Warp Spider: 4x Death Spinner

+ Heavy Support +
>Dark Reapers [180 Pts]: Dark Reaper Exarch, Reaper Launcher
. 4x Dark Reaper: 4x Reaper Launcher

>Dark Reapers [180 Pts]: Dark Reaper Exarch, Reaper Launcher
. 4x Dark Reaper: 4x Reaper Launcher

+ Dedicated Transport +
>Wave Serpent [194 Pts]: Crystal Targeting Matrix, Shuriken Cannon, Spirit Stones, Twin Starcannon

Wave Serpent is DT for the Avengers

>>55227814
Keep his head safe from purple people eaters

>>55226281
>People still confusing rules bloat with 'Flavor'

Looks like the legacy of the cancer that was 6th and 7th edition will take a long time to go away.

>>55227759
>>55227848

Alright so looks like drop crowe make a gm dreadknight, and give all my strike squads psycannons instead of psilencers then figure out how to survive an alpha strike apparently.

Regardless thanks anons.

>>55227269
>implying admechs wouldn't oil their mechatrousers if they got their dendrites on superior battlesuit technology

>>55227330

>buys book with the name of the most prominent and popular tau character
>complains it had tau kicking ass

>>55227814
Smashfucker

>>55227935
It wounds my soul a little each time someone thinks wargear options are what makes an army "fluffy."

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Sup my boys, anon from like a month ago or some shit with the deft dread packed full of as many guns as possible, just finished my painboy, thought I'd share

>>55227954
Not possible in 8th.

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I'm on a budget of 1k pts. How can I maximise my long range firepower as SPESS MAHREENS?

>>55227935
I don't want to sound too 'and we liked it', but honestly, as a BA player I don't feel that I need the Sanguinary Guard or other Ward-era cruft. Death Company and a Chapter Tactic that gives us a bonus of some type on the charge and I'd be fine. At least we'd get released in a timely fashion.

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>>55227943
Put half your units in reserves, and the other half that must start on the board inside or behind Rhino's.

>>55227981
Ally Guard

>>55227981
Grab some Sister of Battle Retribution squad. Enjoy double shooting phase

>>55227981
Heavy Bolters can be a solid choice

>>55227803
No, drop the dreadknight and get a GM in dreadknight armor instead. The 2+ boost, 4+, and reroll aura male shooting and melee fantastic, cause the usual issue with dreadknights is they last efficiency to use their gear.

Though you may want to drop Crowe too, and figure out how to do the assassins differently; they either kill your brotherhood buffs (which you really want), or kill your pile of CPs.

Something like

>GM in dreadknight: sword, teleporter, psycannon
>10 strike
>5 interceptors
>5 interceptors
>4 Paladins
>4 Paladins
>paladin Ancient

>voldus
>4 vindicare

Leaves you lookin pretty damn solid, though personally I'd just drop the assassins and grab some gubbinz, a Dreadnought and a vehicle for the purgation squad. A good rule of thumb (aside from you need 10 guys for 2 special weapons) is not to tale special stuff unless it's on a purgation squad, otherwise it's just not worth the hassle

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>>55227971
Crop the image so it posts correctly next time, I like the darker tone to your Painboy

>>55226466
Dark Imperium for $88

>>55227981

3 min tac squads with heavy weapons

As many devastator squads as you can fit

Captains to give rerolls

I'm intrigued after seeing so many pics of it, is there any way to make the Well Endowed Eagle "work"?

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>>55227993

Considered this, but it seems like the new guard meta is just conscripts, which would be expensive (in dollars) and time consuming to paint.

>>55228008

Google isn't yielding results, what are their stats?

>>55228013

I've been told Heavy Bolters are to be avoided.

>>55228069
What heavy weapons do you recomend?

>>55228085
>the index are in the OP
Cheap heavy bolter squads that can fire twice

>>55228069
Why bother with tacs?

>>55227810
"Give me comments! No, no, not those comments!"

>>55228069

Considering 4 tac squads (of 5 marines). If I'm using Devastators, are grav guns worth the investment, or should I stick with Heavy Bolters?

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>Fighting against TSons with Magnus as Sisters in Narrative Play
>Celestine starts to get slapped down as she and her entourage keep a LoC busy
>Board control is nearly even
>Magnus kills my Knight and is attempting to push me off of pivotal objective but is barely alive after slapfight
>Meltas are too far away to help and Repentia are tied up in combat
>Have one Rhino left
>Decide that the best way to stop Magnus from roflstomping me is to ram him
>Only one model in the vehicle anyway, so it's a pretty okay move
>Ram him
>Deal shit for damage
>He insta-gibs the Rhino
>It explodes
>Deals three mortal wounds
>Magnus fucking dies
>The lone Sister escapes the wreckage unharmed
>Without Magnus, manage to run out the clock and win by one point thanks to Slay the Warlord
>TSons pushed out of the system
>The Order of Eternal Hope recognizes the achievement of Sister Adalia Falk, who becomes a Palatine

What has been your most surprising moment of 8th edition so far?

>>55227981
>Scouts to prevent alpha strike and KO guard officers
>devestators, of course
>sternguard always good
>captains and lieutenants are HUGE force multipliers
>that FW scorpius is apparently stupid good
>Dreadnoughts make some damn Killy gunboat variants
>centuribears can also shit on stuff
>assault cannons are good deterrents, best on a razorback for massed fire

>>55228085
Why would you ever take Conscripts if you're looking for long range fire? Are you so dense that you hink that's are there is to IG?

>>55226434
This model is just so ridiculously busy I don't know where to look. I feel like until it is in front of me I won't actually know what it looks like.

>>55228085
Heavy Bolters are great anti-infantry weapons, S5 and AP-1 are good at chewing through pretty much any troop.

>>55227973
Can't you do a passable approximation with the IH Relic, though?

>>55228123
Plasma cannons are the best heavy weapon for SM right now.

>>55228152
NDK grandmaster probably the closest thing to it ATM.

What's the best way to load out a 5 man scout squad in a LSS to deter charges?

I am trying to decide on boltguns + HB vs shotguns.

Probably would have a heavy flamer on the LSS in both cases.

If it is relevant, I am using CF tactics

>>55228147
GW has some sort of 'minimum level of detail' rule going on these days. Nothing's allowed to ship unless every nano-angstrom of it has meaningless crap on it. If it ends up looking like shit, at least it'll be shit that justifies your CAD course!

>>55228120

Because it's marines.

>>55228008
Celestine with a min squad of seraphim and two dominion melta squads in repressors is 621 points.

>>55227992
Battalion detachment
HQ
Grand master voldis – 190
Grand master in a dread knight heavy psycannon with a sword - 255

Troops
10 man Strike squad force falchions + storm bolters + 2 psileners - 214
9 man Strike squad force falchions + storm bolters– 189
9 man Strike squad force falchions + storm bolters– 189

1 rhino storm bolter, hunter killer- 78

Elite

2x Paladin squads with force halberd + storm bolters – 550
4x vindicare assassin - 360

Total 1999

With vindicares, the rhino one of the strike squads on the board lets me deep strike six units which would be both paladins, 2 strike squads, voldis and the grand master.

>>55228016
Oh, i didn't consider using my interceptors. Would the reduced model count in an already low model army hurt me more?

Also yea i intend to have a list thats more competitive without the vindicares eventually i just wana use them for fun but still be as optimized as i can with the handicap.

Who gets the most out of tacs to the point that they're good? Salamanders?

>>55228127
That sounds fucking radical

My most surprising moment was learning that my Shining Spears can fucking koolaid man through walls when they charge, ignoring overwatch and just being too fucking chivalrous to care what's between them and their joust-boner

>>55228181
Doesn't really matter, either way you're likely ending with 10 S4 shots. The better way to insure charges are to put something scary behind them and make him stay back

>>55228147
I think I could get behind it without the dangling robe, but it just makes it too cluttered, yeah.
He's got power armour, just roll with that.

>>55228233
Okay, maybe I should just lay out what all I have.

I have 10 scouts, 5 with camo cloaks and sniper rifles, 4 + sarge I am unsure with.

I also have a LSS.

These guys go into my infantry/aura based CF army, it's essentially very shooty gunline.

What should I do with the 4 scouts plus the sarge? I could put the snipers in the LSS for the ablative wounds but I feel like the weapons on the LSS would be wasted.

>>55228197
Interceptors are great, they can get up in your opponent's face turn one and with falchions a basic squad still puts down a punishing number of attacks. I've been damn lucky with them, they keep hitting shit so hard it can't hit them back effectively

>>55228128

It just so happens I already have some scouts, and a Captain, so that's good.

All of those units aren't going to fit in a 1k list, so which one of those would you say is best?

>>55228139

I know nothing about guards, I'm new to the game. I know there's Guardsmen, tanks, Knights, and arty for them, but apparantly no one cares about that any more, and it's all about conscripts. This is just what I've been hearing, I don't have much else to go by.

>>55228151
>>55228161

Heavy Bolters, or Plasma Cannons? Decisions, decisions. . .

>>55228186
Could that level of unnecessary overdesign make it more difficult to cast/3d-print?

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>>55226592
Sure, have some of Dorn's Geneseeds finest marines

>>55228186
It makes me terrified for a Vect model, but then I realise that'd require new Deldar models.

>>55228286
Plasma seems unreliable in terms of shots.

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>>55228194
>increase long range firepower with meltaguns

Genius

>>55226434

I really can't stand this model. It's not that it's busy as fuck with no-where for the eye to focus on. It's not the clouds and cloth clashing direction. It's the pose. It's the goddamn pose. He looks way too dynamic. It's the sort of pose I'd expect from a Sisters model, that whole one knee raised as he gracefully soars above the battlefield. It clashes so badly with the aesthetic of the faction: corpulent and diseased.

You can make a flying corpulent, diseased guy just fine. You have him bloated, hanging from his wings as they drag him across the battlefield. His limbs should be limp, hanging down towards the ground. Instead we get a guy who, with a bit of filing and a different paintjob, could be a Living Saint.

>>55227499
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-EU/Tyranid-Ripper-Swarms
Use these instead

>>55228194
You can give the seraphim inferno pistols and nuke anything turn one with 14 meltas

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>>55228127
>Playing as Black Templars against Guard
>Other player's Demolisher is almost dead
>I decide I'm going to charge the tank with my captain instead of my dreadnought since I'm a fucking idiot
>Death or Glory
>Captain gets one shot by a lucky shot in overwatch
>dissapointed, I name the captain "FuckBastard"
>I do the smart thing and charge the tank with my Dreadnought
>kills the tank and takes no damage

This was probably the dumbest I've felt in a long time.

>>55228318
>meltas that can move 24"

>>55228290
I think that's part of the problem: The casting/printing tech is getting better, and so obviously they need to make higher detail models to justify their investment, right?

It's a bit like the guy who buys a new toaster that also does waffles, and he's shoving waffles down everyone's throats even when people just want fucking toast. Or something.

>>55228121

Exactly. Critique the list, not 50 friendless fags making the same exact comment over and over.

>>55228286
>I know nothing about guards, I'm new to the game. I know there's Guardsmen, tanks, Knights, and arty for them, but apparantly no one cares about that any more, and it's all about conscripts.

You've been memed, son.

>>55228268
Alright i'm sold on using them in the non vindicare list. To many points and will lower my already low model count in this one and i'd rather have more models and 2 less command points. Still seem pretty awesome with that 12' move though for follow up combats

>>55228318
He suggested retributors, which have a 24" range melta. Dominions have 12" melta but get to scout 12" to start the game, so effectively have the same threat range for less points costs.

>>55228318
just stick scopes on the thing, duh

>>55228319
The biggest problem with it for me isn't the way he's flying, it's that he's flying at all. He had two defining characteristics, did Morty: First, he hated Psykers, and second, he firmly believed in footslogging infantry above all else. Sure, give him the wings, but have him stalking across the battlefield on foot. They didn't feel the need to have Magnus flapping about.

>>55228286
>I know nothing about guards, I'm new to the game. I know there's Guardsmen, tanks, Knights, and arty for them, but apparantly no one cares about that any more, and it's all about conscripts. This is just what I've been hearing, I don't have much else to go by.
Enjoy being sheeple and not just looking for yourself

>>55226288
All Tyranids are cute.

>>55228369
Not my point at all.
They were critiquing the list. It isn't a legal list.

>>55228378
Which now that I think of it gives the dominions even greater threat range because if their transport advances they can still shoot, albeit at -1. So Dominions have a threat range of 36+d6" whereas retributors only have a 36" threat range on their melta.

>>55228378
Honestly the Retribution work better with Heavy bolter. Since Heavy Flamers get dick over if their transport advance same goes for any heavy weapon that Ret can get.
Meltas need to move and shoot. Multi-meltas suffer a lot. Hence why Retribution grab Heavy Bolter and Dominions go with meltaguns inside a Repressor

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>>55226434

>>55228186

>Want new Ghaz sculpt
>Realize that it's going to be overdesigned to fuck and back

It might almost work with Orks but I'm not convinced.

>>55228439
If heavy bolters are what we're going for then just get those FW rapier platforms for the cheap quad HB.

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>>55228127
MSU Melta Scion hot dropping 9 inches from a very hungry Flyrant, not to toast him but two Genestealers next to him so my partners Khornate Demon Prince could make a clear 11" charge and tear it a new asshole.
Hard not to root for Chaos, don't tell the Commissar

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>>55227971
>>55228028
Are we posting painboys?

>>55228409

I get this comment a lot when I ask for advice, but I don't really trust myself.

I once looked at all the Assassins to decide which one was best, and my conclusion was that Culexus was the worst, and Eversor was the best. Turns out, it was the opposite.

I did a similar thing with deciding on a second HQ. It seemed like a Chaplain stuck in with an Assault squad would create an excellent tar pit, and Litanies of Hate would make the unit incredibly effective at counter charges, allowing my ranged units to perform better and not die once the enemy's troops crossed the board.

Turns out all that was bullshit, Librarians are basically necessary.

Long story short, yes, anyone can just look in the rulebook and come to their own conclusions instead of asking a question to someone else. But with the former method, you run a bigger risk of being wrong.

>>55228299
keep em coming boi

Just how much of a heretic am I for wanting to put a psycher in a Black Templars list?

>>55228455
You can't overdesign Orks.

>>55228558
Cheater/10

>>55226632
>>55226709
This plus
>1 Special Weapon per 5 instead of per 10
>Heavy and Special Weapons Squads with 10 models
>Rough Rider Officers, Commissars and Command Squads for non-Krieg
>Tank Commanders that can give orders to multiple tanks
>Shotguns for Infantry Squads or an Assault/Rapid Fire/Heavy set of Lasgun variants (Like the Auto, Normal and Stalker Primaris guns)

>>55226592
Fire Cast by Peter Fehervari.

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>>55228558
A pretty massive one

Also a faggot

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>>55228520

I suppose we are

>>55226501
You ordered a shitty ebay recast. You fucked up.

>>55228467
Are they 85 points and shoot twice per turn? If so. Then yes just get the quad FW unit

>>55228558
As fluffy as the 12 year old at the flgs who runs deathwatch with eldar allies

>>55226760
Custodes

According to the new Ynnari short story, the Eldar are getting disillusioned with fighting alongside the Imperium of Man. Instead of defending Eldar interests, they are giving up their lives to defend the holdings of a race that's historically unpredictable and extremely self serving who would betray the Eldar when its convenient.

They raise good points in the story, the Eldar gain nothing by allying with the Imperium.

>>55228421

Ok now imagine you're part of a group of friends that allow a bit of leeway with point values.

>>55228657
>fighting along side the superior race
>gain nothing
Is this Tau propaganda? Fighting along side humanity is the best any xeno could hope for.

>>55228657
S T A T U S Q U O

Bringing Big Bobby back was just shuffling the deckchairs. Advancing the narrative? Nope, Abbaddon's never getting any closer to Terra, the Ynnari will never find the fifth sword, it's all ultimately meaningless.

>>55228670
>bit of leeway
>those 2 point could mean a storm bolters for a random character or another meltagun for your anti vehicle squad

You seem to not understand why it is called a point limit.

>>55228578
>>55228604
>>55228622
Sorry, I got caught up in some momentary retardation. Might of Heroes and Null Zone just looked really good.

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>>55228704
>Implying

>When the long-lost Craftworld Ziasuthra reappears, Iyanna Arienal and Yvraine of the Ynnari lead an expedition to it in hope of retrieving the last cronesword. But why has the craftworld returned now, and can its inhabitants be trusted?

>Still reeling from the advent of the Great Rift, and the ravages of the tyranids, the aeldari inhabitants of Iyanden are shocked when they receive a message from a long-lost craftworld. Missing for millennia, the craftworld of Ziasuthra has suddenly reappeared from its sanctuary in the warp, and its denizens wish to make contact. Led by the Spiritseer Iyanna and Yvraine, the Emissary of Ynnead, a small force of craftworld eldar head to Zaisuthra to open negotiations with their brethren. Behind their surface desire to help, however, Iyanna and Yvraine have a stronger motive, they are seeking the final cronesword, which could lie hidden behind ancient web portal on this craftworld. But how co-operative will the mysterious Ziasuthrans prove to be, or do they too have their own agenda?

>>55228704
By that rubric the story hasn't "advanced" since before the Horus Heresy. Chaos hasn't enveloped the galaxy, and the Emperor hasn't expunged Chaos.

>>55228762
I'm going to spoil the book for you right now.

>Oh no the Ziasuthrans are all corrupted
>Shame it was a dead end
>To be continued

>>55228715

And my friend might be 10 pts over. We play once a week and we have lives. 40k isn't all we have going on.

>>55228790
Trying to prove that I'm oversimplifying only works if you don't oversimplify further in the process.

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>>55228531
Sure
It appears there might be a little Khorne Red in all of us

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>>55227973
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Chapter_Master_Smashfucker#8TH_EDITION:_CAPTAIN_SMASHFUCKER_AND_THE_IRON_BASTARDS

>>55228687
Funny, I don't see many T'au defecting to ally with humankind. The opposite, though...

:^)

>>55228801
What do your lives have to do with being over a points limit?

Do infantry still benefit from captains' reroll aura if the infantry is in a transport?

>>55228801
>My life is so busy I don't have time for basic maths

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>>55228814
Blood for the... Greater Bloody Good!

>>55228801
>play PL if you are not giving a fuck about points
That is literally the point of PL. It is made for casual as fuck play

>>55228814
What's the book?

>>55228838
Crisis of Faith.
It is a fun read if you like the Enclaves

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>>55228147
GW thinks detail = aesthetic.

Forge World seems to understand simple but distinct rule at least

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>>55228864
Why would GW ever make such an ugly model. Please, someone, tell me that these have not sold well.

>>55226434
>being this autistic about details
Fuck off commie

>>55228924
Apparently AoS sells a lot. Oddly enough I have never seen anyone play it

The Get Started boxed sets are weirdly priced. The AdMech one has a CultMech HQ and Skitarii everything else... and is priced where the tank is effectively free.

Are those GW Webstore exclusive or could I get them cheaper from another store?

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>>55226435
>implying Eldar can't be cute and sexy simultaneously
Monkeigh thinking desu

>>55228932
>details
The first and foremost problem is that the details look like shit. Combine that with too much of them being on there and we end up with that monstrosity of a mini.

>>55228859
A fun read if you want stuff from a Tau perspective in general.

>>55228948
>that ever so tiny pout
This is why Luth is the best.

>>55228942
It gets played as much as 40k in my store, but I've never seen anyone bring in that army. Tragically, I'm sure that the best selling army is going to be the one that wins the most.

>>55228615
They're 152 points for the same amount of firepower. But that 152 point unit is over twice as survivable as the Retributors.

>>55226466
SC tzeentch and half a dozen Inceptors for about $90 aud

>>55228942
If I had to guess, it'd be explained by lots of casuals buying the starter set and then never doing shit with it.

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How would one go about getting a job writing stories for GW if one were so inclined?

>>55226201
hey impericucks how bout you stop fucking cheating on konor. this is getting embrassing

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>always liked the idea of an all tank guard army
>absolutely despise aesthetics of the Leman Russ

what's the best alternative to this cartoony piece of garbage?

>>55228960
So it cost more than 5 models. You get a squad of superior, 5 extra bodies and 4 Heavy Bolters girls for 130.

In other words it end being a thing of preference. Durability vs double shooting

>>55226444
those are soulgems

Why Forge World stops doing trailers for they releases?

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>>55229004
>not liking the Leman Russ

>>55229002
>imlying cheating will do anything when GW is "fixing" the results in favour of cuckos.

>>55229004

forgeworld macharius pattern tanks, or skip bts and go straight to superheavies

>>55229004
Playing a different army

>>55229004
The best way to fix the whole "4x4x4 box" aesthetic of the Russ is to kitbash it with a Malcador's hull. Or, if you can get away with it, a British Mark I-VIII hull.

>>55229015
You realise the 152 points of Rapiers has 24 HB shots, same as a double shooting pack of Retributors.

>>55229034
>40k in a decades time
>Everything is upscaled
>new LR is the size of a Baneblade
>Baneblades are the size of Labradors
>entire warehouses are rented out to play games of 40k

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>>55229002
Did you forgot when GW fudged the numbers so Chaos could have a victory twice?

GW bullshitting the result is a tradition at this point.

>>55229070
Well that I did not know. I thought it was a single quad heavy bolter for that price not 2

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>>55229027
>liking the leman Russ

>>55228924

At least at my FLGS they can't keep them on the shelves. They get bought almost as soon as they are put out.

>>55229027
Looks permanently on the brink of tipping over
weak

>>55229073
>Primaris Primarchs now with 500 part sprues for
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>>55229078
>Did you forgot when GW fudged the numbers so Chaos could have a victory twice?

Proof? Because we have proof that they fudged the numbers for the Imperium. Since day one of the planet, the meter didn't change dispute Chaos was winning in all regions. It kept being for the Imperium up till now.

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Rate my WIP.
First thing I've done outside some wyches and a squad of tac marines.
Sorry about lighting and camera quality.

>>55228815

>Unironically linking to 1d4chan
>Trump reaction image
cringe.

>>55229145
4/10

>>55229145
Actually, seeing that full size it's pointless, you can't make out shit.
Sorry.

>>55229133
It was always a curb stomp and magically changes into a close match at the end. Hell they even removed RoW because some random Brazilian store had more games in a day than UK in a week.

>>55229078
>>55229133
and chucklenuts planet ownership means nothing. It's who controls the most regions who will win.

>Another week of the campaign, and Chaos have managed to just hold onto their lead with a victory over Drenthal! The Imperium made excellent gains in the Hanghalen Seastead, breaking a string of difficult weeks for the UK and Rest of World, but Chaos managed to hold the Agdaen Archipelago throughout the week. The battle ultimately came down to possession of Terebral Station Sigma, which for most of the week was locked in a desperate draw.

>Despite a much improved showing from the Imperium – resulting in them actually pulling ahead in terms of overall victories – thanks to the efforts of players in the UK and the Rest of the World region – Chaos managed to maintain a hold on 2 out of the 3 locations, thus claiming a win on objectives (we’ve all been there!)

>>55229145
that sail needs more coats

>>55228830
Bravestorm and Sicarius buddy cop novel when?

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>>55229000
Unless you live in the UK/(Europe maybe) they won't hire you. I've personally tried before and I have a friend who used to write for them a couple editions ago. If you DO live across the pond from us filthy Americans just send an inquiry email to black library and they should hook you up with more information. Be prepared to write 2, 300 word story's about space marines(obviously). Best of luck to you if you happen to pursue it.

>>55229162
>Hell they even removed RoW because some random Brazilian store had more games in a day than UK in a week.

Now you are making stuff up.

>It was always a curb stomp and magically changes into a close match at the end.

See >>55229170

Imperium had more victories but Chaos had more regions. 2/1 for Chaos.

>>55228859
>>55228950
Noted!

>>55228864
Oh my fuck that flying dwarf's faceplate has an incorporated gentleman mustache, monocle and top hat.

>>55229176
Yeah, I'm planning to do another one or two to prep it, and then slap on something brighter, to boot.

>>55229205
>he doesn't know
RoW stores can't post results. Happen during the same time chaos got their first victory

But you are a chaosfag. So why worry about Konor

>>55229151
>saying cringe

cringe

>>55228942
My store has a lot of people playing skirmish, but it's pretty rare I see the full thing pulled out.

>>55229212
>>55228859
>>55228950
Don't be fools and mislead the guy. Tell him about the whole series.

Dude, start from here.

http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/novels/farsight-ebook.html

Then.

http://www.blacklibrary.com/warhammer-40000/novels/blades-of-damocles-ebook.html

Then.

http://www.blacklibrary.com/new-titles/warhammer-40000/crisis-of-faith.html

After you finished with Phil Kelly books read the Farsight short story in the Shas'O anthology "Fire and Ice.

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>>55229204
I won't lie, I've considered moving there just for that purpose. I would gladly write as many stories about Marines as they wanted if it meant even a chance to write something for Sisters.

>>55229240
because chaos is legitimately winning you child

>>55229087
Nah, a single Rapier is 20 points, each crewman (of 2) is 10 and the Quad HB is 36 points. So 76 points for 1, 152 for 2.

>>55226352
Fuck you, use an archon. You want anti tank? Give him a blaster. You want anti-horde? Husk Blade. You want to take down heavy infantry? Agonizer. Fucking ynarri cuckolds.

>>55229240
Source me because the map sa

>>55229212
>Oh my fuck that flying dwarf's faceplate has an incorporated gentleman mustache, monocle and top hat.

And a couple of guns.

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>>55229278
>because chaos is legitimately winning you child