Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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first for my babies

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>>55222065
xth for Necrons getting squatted.

Reminder to ignore all Guardfag posting

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xth for Necrons not getting squatted.

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T'au Auxiliaries when?

Also life with the T'au is so much better than life in the Imperium, it's amazing that more worlds don't defect. They should be falling over themselves to join.

Yiu would join' wouldn't you, Anon?

Are there any loyalist chapters with a color scheme similar to emps kids?

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>>55222065
Thoughts on my list?

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9th for CUTEDAR.

>>55222155
No such thing as shrines any more.

Vypers, Batteries, guardians and DA are all either ass or mediorce. Your dudes are all priced incorrectly as they should all cost more. Oh, and RIP army builder. You will be missed.

>>55222197
What do you mean there are no shrines?

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>>55222188
Nth for Tau a cutest

>>55222197
well yeah it just seems to be an old screenshot from 7th

>>55222207
He meant formations, you can't have those. So the various Shrine formations don't exist.

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After seeing things in AoS I'm really scared for some 40k factions.

Bretonnia and Tomb Kings were squatted, and now they are going to squat the Death faction.

I can see Dark Eldar and Necrons going that way.

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>>55222209
Tau? What has a star or the Greek number 19 got to do with 40k?

>tfw Prywinko did SoB but no R34 SoB

Do Foetid Bloat Drones get buffed from Epidemius' tally? Or is that just actual Nurlge Daemons?

>>55222236
dark eldar are literally getting reboxed you fucking mongoloid
What is with you fucking troglodytes that come ask questions like this here

>>55222240
Anon, the Empire is named after the planet, T'au, but the race is still named Tau.

>>55222155
What list builder is this?

>>55222268
A dead one.

Is it possible to build a elite suit list for Tau now or are they fucked?

>>55222268
its the one GW shut down months ago just when 8th stuff was being leaked because some mouthbreather linked it to their facebook page

>>55222261
GW isn't original I see. Typical. So the Aeldari is the name of the Empire but the Eldar are... the race? Then who are the Drukhari? This has too many plotholes, anon. Too many.

>>55222291
Drukhari are Drukhari because the Dark Elves in fantasy were called Druchii and GW is trying to recycle shit by changing it minutely
"Aeldari" is just some retard shit that they brought in from AoS after naming the combined elven faction "Aelves"
so aeldari just means the eldar race

>>55222291
The Drukhari live in the dark city of Clev'Land TM

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>>55222279
>>55222289
Why the fuck would someone do that? How stupid do you have to be to expose a third party list builder?

>>55222114
My 1k list is 1 captain, 1 lt, 1 10 man intercessor, 1 boltstorm aggressor, 5 hellblasters, and a Repulsor. Thinking of tweaking it a bit. Mostly just add on intercessors, hellblasters, and aggressors as the list gets bigger.

>>55222344
Very, evidently.

>>55222344
That should tell you a lot about the kind of people that are involved in this hobby
Just look at the stupid ass questions people ask on this thread on a daily basis, it's astonishing
Facebook page is even worse

>>55222330
Actually, the reason was to protect them from being sued. GW is currently being sued for using the words Elves and Eldar by a guy from Florida. So it's a legal defence thing.

Anyway I was memeing anyway.

>>55222344
You do realise that GW had to release an FAQ because somebody asked if they could use Yarrick in a Scion army in 7th? You do realise people have literally asked GW if they can equip or use X or Y when the rule they're quoting literally says you can't do X or Y, yet they ask it anyway.

Is there any reason to use Veterans anymore now that Scions are great?

>>55222401
No you idiot, the Florida guy isnt suing them for that
He is suing them for literally everything ever, including that he thinks they stole his Scifi wargame which GW made into 40k in his twisted mind, read through the suit, he is grasping at every single straw ever
But not for elves. My statement on the drukhari and elves things are still very much true

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>>55222365
>>55222366
>>55222401
My faith in humanity wanes ever further. Is someone at least attempting to rebuild the builder, or has gotten the files from the original creator to make a clone?

>>55222417
Not at the moment
Maybe with the codex
>>55222439
the guy got spooked and tore it all down asap, havent heard anything about someone else remaking it

>>55222439
The retarded thing was that the guy had a patreon. If he wasn't making money off of it they might not have shut it down.

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>>55222432
why do you lie anon? what do you get out of lying?

>>55222439

There's no motivation for anyone to make a new one, if some moron will shout about it on the facebook GW page.
Though it'd be great if a downloadable version could be circulated.

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>>55222130
>Xeno-loving traitors trying to hide out with blueberries
>Thinking they can protect you
Lol you filthy scum are all gonna die.

>>55222477
They changed the names way before this lawsuit thing was even a glint in it's daddy's maniacal eye, dumbshit. Not because of this lawsuit
if I had to hazard a guess as for why, then I'd say because of the same reason why IG are not Astra Militarum etc.

Any WAAAGGHHHH Gits in here? how does this look?


++ Patrol Detachment (Orks) ++

+ HQ +

Weirdboy: 3. Da Jump

+ Troops +

Boyz
. Boss Nob: Power Klaw, Slugga
. 11x Ork Boy W/ Slugga & Choppa

Boyz
. Boss Nob: Power Klaw, Slugga
. 11x Ork Boy W/ Slugga & Choppa

Boyz
. Boss Nob: Power Klaw, Slugga
. 11x Ork Boy W/ Slugga & Choppa

+ Fast Attack +

Stormboyz
. Boss Nob: Power Klaw
. 9x Stormboy

+ Flyer +

Dakkajet: 6x Supa Shoota

+ Dedicated Transport +

Trukk: Big Shoota

Trukk: Big Shoota

Trukk: Big Shoota

++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Orks) ++

+ HQ +

Big Mek: Choppa, Kustom Force Field

+ Heavy Support +

Deff Dread
. Deff Dread: Dread Klaw, Dread Klaw
. . Pair of Klaw Arms: 2x Dread Klaw
. Deff Dread: Dread Klaw, Dread Klaw
. . Pair of Klaw Arms: 2x Dread Klaw

Deff Dread
. Deff Dread: Big Shoota, Big Shoota
. . Pair of Klaw Arms: 2x Dread Klaw
. Deff Dread: Big Shoota, Big Shoota
. . Pair of Klaw Arms: 2x Dread Klaw
. Deff Dread: Big Shoota, Big Shoota
. . Pair of Klaw Arms: 2x Dread Klaw

Morkanaut: Kustom Force Field, Kustom Mega Kannon, Kustom Mega-blasta, 2x Rokkit Launcha, 2x Twin Big Shoota

++ Total: [118 PL, 1992pts] ++

>>55222453
>>55222495
Has anyone got in contact with him? Like, at all? If he's done all the work already, he knows how to make another one and someone could work on making a downloadable version by applying his previous framework to it.

>>55222468
That's retarded and probably was why they took the thing down.

Is there any limit on how many of the same detachment you can bring in an army?

>>55222569
For Elves they did, but that was the reason they changed it. To avoid this kind of insanity.

>>55222588
No

>>55222569
Didn't all the name changes happen to coincide with GW getting laughed out of the courts over Spots the Space Marine?

>>55222587
He is a pussy, he isn't giving anything to anyone. It's over, Anon. Let it go.

Why there isn't DE Succubus on GW site?

>Magnus rapes your superheavies
>Morty rapes your army

Are you ready to face two Primarchs armies, anons? Or all Primarch armies in future?

>>55222623
Because Citadel FineCrap is being phased out quicker than marinelets.

>>55222641
Easy solution.

>FAQ: "Only one Primarch may be taken in an army."

>>55222607
They were changed because GW were told they cannot legally protect the name Wood Elves or High Elves or Imperial Guard. So they changed it so they could. This is why this guys insanity is going to fall fucking flat since there is legal precedent to defend GW.

>D-dey copied Space Marines
>Well, your honour, we had a legal case saying it's public domain and thus free to use, in any case, they're actually registered as Adeptus Astartes, not Space Marine :^)

>>55222645
So not at all?

>>55222641
>d3 mortal wounds on 4+

Wow that kills 2 boyz.

>>55222579
Stormboy groups are fairly pointless unless you go full retard 30 size with them, cut that for another HQ or a killa kan or something.

Otherwise it looks alright. Make sure to keep those dreads hugging the morkanaut for that sweet, sweet KFF

>>55222579
That's a low count list, hope the Dreads and Orkanaut can make it across the table fast enough

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>>55222567
I might die, but the Tau'va lives on.

>>55222645
But Succubus was plastic.

>>55222656
The argument is going to try to hinge on the idea that somehow the names aren't enough and it's not going to work.

>>55222641
I shall simply add another 20 electropriests for each Primarch I face, they cost less and can down them if they close to melee.

I bet they'll be nerfed to hell in the codex, though. Phil Kelly doesn't like us and I suspect he'll run this show, so prepare to be EVEN MORE BORING than before.

>>55222495
It would have been smarter to put him on the payroll to finish it, rather than closing it down whole sale. Would've been good press too.

Wheres the damn death guard codex leaks already?

>>55222655
I know GW are gonna be faggots and not do this, but they NEED to fucking do this, otherwise the competitive meta is gonna be to just bring four fucking primarchs.

>>55222712
Twelve days that way ---->

>>55222704
It's hilarious, this dude apparently has a LLM in law, yet is retarded enough to believe he can stop punches, arrows and bullets using martial art body electricity or some shit.

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>>55222707
>Phil Kelly doesn't like us and I suspect he'll run this show

What is Mr. Kelly's opinion of Best Eldar?

>>55222661
>This level of delusion

>>55222728
It's pretty simple. When there are multiple Primarchs, have them only available for their chapter/legion only.

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>>55222641
>this kills the Primarch

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>bought first strike, figured out i loved the hobby part
>bought a tactical squad and a few citadel paints
> dont wanna paint space marines at all anymore

Can any guard players tell me why it's crazy to take regular infantry squads and not conscripts? Really I wanna build a mix of Valkyries dropping boys/air support alongside specialist infantry like snipers, mortars, etc...

i just dont wanna paint have to buy 100 cadians if i dont have to and rather something like pic-related to do more of a insurgent-looking guard army

Reposting alternate FUN list. What should I add to bring this to a solid 1k?
My thoughts are drop two Heavy B's on the fortress and plop two Basilisk out of LoS behind it. Opinions?


++ Fortification Network (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [20 PL, 442pts] ++

+ Fortification +

Aquila Strongpoint [20 PL, 442pts]: Aquila Macro-cannon, 4x Heavy bolter

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [17 PL, 358pts] ++

+ HQ +

Company Commander [35pts, 3 PL]: Power axe, Shotgun

Tempestor Prime [40pts, 2 PL]: Chainsword, Tempestus Command Rod

+ Troops +

Militarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 71pts]
. Scion: Hot-shot Lasgun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Hot-shot Volley Gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Hot-shot Volley Gun
. Scion w/ Vox-caster: Hot-shot Laspistol, Vox-caster
. Tempestor: Chainsword, Hot-shot Laspistol

Militarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 67pts]
. Scion: Hot-shot Lasgun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Scion w/ Vox-caster: Hot-shot Laspistol, Vox-caster
. Tempestor: Chainsword, Hot-shot Laspistol

Militarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 77pts]
. Scion: Hot-shot Lasgun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun
. Scion w/ Vox-caster: Hot-shot Laspistol, Vox-caster
. Tempestor: Chainsword, Hot-shot Laspistol

+ Elites +

Command Squad [68pts, 3 PL]
. Veteran w/ Heavy Flamer: Heavy flamer
. Veteran w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Veteran Weapon Team: Missile launcher

++ Total: [37 PL, 800pts] ++

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>>55222135

Death Eagles shortly after the Horus Heresy.

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Rate list

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>>55222728
>tfw someone did this at my lgs when we were having a silly game and I managed to win against Birdnerd, Rowboat and three knights with regular Nids
I got fucking destroyed when the undamaged Necron player came up from behind, but I nuked the most powerful contender off the board and that's all that mattered.

>>55222762
I wish I hadn't removed 4chanX out of paranoia so I could see how many times you've posted this fucking image.

>>55222130
It's because it's not really that much better, you're just deluding yourself.

>>55222129
>Just the lowest tier faction.

>>55222743

Phil is the reason for broken Eldar codices. As well as Nid codices that aren't CRUDACED

>>55222817
he stole my screencap :(

>>55222645
There's a plastic kit

>>55222817
This will be the first time, it's not my oc

>>55222236
thats what they get for naming their undead "deathrattles" and "lord liverbelch"

>>55222783
I feel like vehicles would just muck it up, just us Mortar teams.

Alternatively, if you DO use vehicles, forgo heavy bolters, rework to add in a Master of Ordnance to babysit it. Look into Earthshaker Platforms instead maybe? It is a fortification after all.

>>55222850
Oh.

>>55222848
Then you then!

>>55222579
Weirdboy is completely pointless, since you have more than enough transport space for everyone who needs it.

Power Klaws are probably excessive in such small units. Big Choppas are probably enough. Also, sluggas on nobz is never worth it when you can have a shoota for free.

Trukks are expensive, but if insist on running a mechanised list I would advise against using stormboyz. Don't give your opponent anything to shoot anti-horde weapons at.

By putting all your units in a battalion, you would gain 2 command points.

>>55222848
>he looted my screencap
Nuffin personnel git

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>>55222587
In actuality, Games Workshop hasn't had a problem with 3rd party list builders before. Even one's with paywalls or that took donations.

The crux of them shutting this particular list builder down was that he was using games workshop licensed photos to make it.

So, you could still make the same list builder but commission your own artwork to make it happen.

Obviously the creator just didn't want to draw more scrutiny on himself. But GW can't use the same excuse for taking down a list builder that has it's own unique artwork.

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>>55222868
I haven't posted it in weeks.....

>>55222878
YA ZOGGIN GROT I'LL KRUMP YA

>>55222236
Why do you think they're getting rid of the Death faction?

>>55222897
Then somebody has! You've defied me for the last time.

>>55222823
Actually, it's vastly better. The Inquisitor in the Phil Kelly series says so. Now justify why the Imperium doesn't provide a decent life for its people.

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>>55222916
>Malign Portents. Big event in which Destruction, Order and Chaos storm the realm of Death to fight for influence. Ultimately Nagash is killed here by Tzeentch or Stormcasts, leading to all undead armies to slowly die without their master, proceeded by General Handbook 2018 where death will be no more

>>55222743
He was the spearhead on the redesign

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-oatGPbCSIU

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Can Humans use Tau gear? If say a Guardsman got hold of a Riptide, would they be able to fit in the cockpit and, by some miracle actually figured out how the interface worked, pilot it?

>>55222862
MoO would affect it at all would it? I thought it had a very specific list of targets for it's aura. Also my usual table is 2X2 so I wouldn't get much use out of him.

I COULD just fill it with more Scions but I don't own any more. It's the reason the weapons are assigned as they are.
Also save points by turning the command squad into a special with 3 flamers Y/N?

>>55222765
I run mechanized guard with no conscripts. 3 chimeras full of infantry squads, special weapons, and characters supported by 2 leman russes. Works great for me.

>>55222827
People complain necrons are the most boring/redundant

>>55222956
Citation massively needed. This would be dumb as fuck because Death is both popular and large, and just killing it off makes no sense.

>>55222989
They might be a bit too big. But if they fit, and somehow figured out how to use it, then yes.

Unless the onboard AI stops him.

>>55222728
Pretty sure Guilliman is the only primarch who is going to be able to buff other primarchs and without being able to buff things they are not top-tier units.

>>55222989
Ask Brains from KillTeam.
Oh wait you can't. He's a spoopy cooked skeleman from trying to hijack a crisis suit.

>>55222765
Those would make good cultists

>>55223010
No fucking shit, it's literally shitposters anon. One day people won't reply to them and just ignore them.

>>55222855
Did you not read the conversation in this very thread over the fact GW is being sued for using generic names or the Chapter House legal case? Why do you newfags come in and start spouting shit about stuff you know nothing about?

why are tau the best race?

>>55222989
Only if allowed
Tau are property protective, I remember a story of some imperial trying to hijack a suit only to get incinerated

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Of the 4 women from Warhammer community, which would you choose?

>>55222707
>electropriests autist

That unit is fucking shit, and it does sqat against Primarch because they are as slow as you are. Stop bringing them up.

>>55223044
Laura is quite the qt

>>55222873
>>55222665
>>55222666


Thanks fellas!

Ok so;


++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Orks) [123 PL, 1993pts] ++

+ HQ +

Big Mek [5 PL, 88pts]: Big Choppa, Grot Oiler, Kustom Force Field

+ Troops +

Boyz [9 PL, 81pts]
. Boss Nob: Big Choppa, Shoota
. 11x Ork Boy W/ Slugga & Choppa

Boyz [9 PL, 81pts]
. Boss Nob: Big Choppa, Shoota
. 11x Ork Boy W/ Slugga & Choppa

Boyz [9 PL, 81pts]
. Boss Nob: Big Choppa, Shoota
. 11x Ork Boy W/ Slugga & Choppa

Boyz [9 PL, 81pts]
. Boss Nob: Big Choppa, Shoota
. 11x Ork Boy W/ Slugga & Choppa

+ Heavy Support +

Deff Dread [22 PL, 447pts]
. Deff Dread: Dread Klaw, Dread Klaw
. . Pair of Klaw Arms: 2x Dread Klaw
. Deff Dread: Dread Klaw, Dread Klaw
. . Pair of Klaw Arms: 2x Dread Klaw
. Deff Dread: Dread Klaw, Dread Klaw
. . Pair of Klaw Arms: 2x Dread Klaw

Deff Dread [15 PL, 284pts]
. Deff Dread: Skorcha, Skorcha
. . Pair of Klaw Arms: 2x Dread Klaw
. Deff Dread: Big Shoota, Big Shoota
. . Pair of Klaw Arms: 2x Dread Klaw

Morkanaut [18 PL, 374pts]: Kustom Force Field, Kustom Mega Kannon, Kustom Mega-blasta, 2x Rokkit Launcha, 2x Twin Big Shoota

+ Flyer +

Dakkajet [7 PL, 148pts]: 6x Supa Shoota

+ Dedicated Transport +

Trukk [5 PL, 82pts]: Big Shoota

Trukk [5 PL, 82pts]: Big Shoota

Trukk [5 PL, 82pts]: Big Shoota

Trukk [5 PL, 82pts]: Big Shoota

++ Total: [123 PL, 1993pts] ++

>>55223044
Sarah. Sarah a cute.

>>55223044
Where is Mel from White Dwarf?

>Death Guard comes at preorder in the 9th
>Death Guard get released on the 16th way after Konor is finished

Who the fuck planned the Konor campaign. This is so stupid?

>>55223044
Duncan ofc.

>>55223088
Because Konor literally doesn't matter? The end of Konor is suppose to coincide with Death Guard release because the next part of the fluff will have GW include Konor, but it doesn't actually matter.

>>55223019
>without being able to buff things they are not top-tier units.

Magnus doesn't buff shit, though. He can, but he's better off murdering stuff.

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>>55223092
N-Nani!?

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>>55223092
T H I S

>>55223109
It matters to me.

So... Exodites when?

>>55222130
Damn straight.

>>55223114
Cute!

Who does all this art?

>>55222989
Tau have genecode locks on their suits a lot like the Imperium does on a lot of their shit. If you just jump in without hacking it or whatever first it'll just fry your ass.

>>55223138
Given how well they've treated Ynnari since they came out I wouldn't expect much. Maybe an armywide USR and a single box, if anything.

Eldar isn't admech or something super popular like space marines so you aren't going to get 10 kits and your own set of codexes every year.

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>>55222765
A mix of infantry squads for support and conscripts for doing all the dirty work and dying is the best option. If you would only use infantry squads you would need more commissars and company or platoon commanders.

>>55222477
That is deranged.

>>55223138
before plastic sisters of battle range revamp

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I have in mind a guard army, mostly built around full combined arms of infantry squads supported by tanks advancing under arty cover and with air support in the form of a Thunderbolt(I haven't seen the rules, I just saw the model and knew I wanted it) Just how viable would such a thing be, with no conscripts and no deep strike units? Good regiment to theme it after?

>>55223057
Now it's not a legal detachment due to only having one HQ. Put the weirdboy back and give him another power if you don't have any other HQ models.

Kustom force field on the big mek seems odd if he's meant to ride in the morkanaut, which already has one. Kick a couple of boys out of one of the trukk mobs and make space for him in there.

That leaves you with an empty morkanaut. Not sure what I would recommend putting in it, since you can't really afford a proper unit of nobz even if you drop a boyz mob and their trukk and buy a cheap HQ. Burna boyz aren't great, but fit neatly into the space and budget, assuming you have the right models.

>>55223160
What
Eldar is the second most popular faction and the biggest Xenos, aren't they?

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First attempt at a hat for my Wild West themed orks.

I think its OK.

>>55223049
And every time you say that, I explain that they don't need to be fast because they are there to stop the Primarch meleeing my heavy firepower to bits. A Guilliman forced to stay back and buff is considerably less dangerous since I can actually kill the things he's buffing, a Magnus staying back and throwing Smite is better than Guilliman but will probably be mostly nuking Skitarii screens since he can't target it, and a Mortarion doesn't do a whole bunch of either. He fares pretty well just charging in anyway, but will still be wounded and I might be able to take him down afterwards with the guns that he HASN'T just killed. I'm Admech, I can win a ranged battle with an elite army like Marines or 1KSons because that's what half my army is for.

Mostly, though, I'm just replying to the "My Primarch is so brilliant they could solo your entire faction" fags with a little perspective.

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>>55223241
>Second most popular faction
>Biggest Xenos faction

>>55223251
You'll need to sculpt some revolvers as well, better rev up that styrene

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>>55223207
I've been considering something similar; a Guard regiment with a modern-ish feel. It would consist of Scions, some deep striking (drop troops) and the rest mechanized with Tauroxen, along with heavy air support (BRRRRRRRRT!). I have been told that, while not the optimal list in competitive terms, it is still reasonably competent and can work well. Additionally, I think it's just a great theme and would probably go for it even if it were sub-par in terms of performance, which fortunately it is not.

>>55223269

Datz da plan.

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how would this fare against /your/ list?

Alpha Legion batallion detachment <1,108>
HQ
>terminator sorcerer: force axe, combi-bolter <158>
>Daemon prince with wings: malefic claws [WT: I am alpharius, relic: intoxicating elixir] <180>
TROOPS
>cultists <40>
>cultists <40>
>cultists <40>
>cultists <40>
ELITES
Terminators: combi-plasma, power axe <250>
HEAVY SUPPORT
>havocs: lascannons <165>
>obliterators <195>

World Eaters vanguard Detachment <879>
HQ
>dark apostle <76>
TROOPS
>Khorne bezerkers: 9 models, chainaxes, power fist <164>
ELITES
>terminators: combi-bolter, power axe <185>
>terminators: combi-bolter, power axe <185>
>hellforged Contemptor Dreadnought: butcher Cannon, chainclaw <208>
TRANSPORTS
>rhino: combi-bolter <72>

>>55223044
Laura looks like a guy

>>55223218

Doh ok.

Well, maybe try it this way. assuming I want to run a Trukk/Deff Dread list (Morka is not a must)--what would you suggest?

So should I make an Ad-mech army? I currently run Necrons, but I've been contemplating embracing the Omnissiah, and I want to know if it would be a good idea or not.

>>55223290
That's how I like my girls

>>55223256
No way it's you npcs. Literally made to job orks

>>55223306
>"girls"

>>55223308
>ignoring Tau

>>55223044
Laura is waifu

>>55222989
I think in an Ultramarines novel one of the marines eats the brains of a Tau to learn how to use a Devilfish or Rifle? I'm pretty sure most people would be locked out by the AI or something though but Tau Human Auxiliary forces can use the suits and guns I guess.

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>>55223308
>Aelfes more popular than Orks

>>55223207
Not top-tier, but perfectly viable. Most worlds have arty and armoured companies, so pretty much anyone except catachans, tanith, elysians and other light infantry specialists would be fine. Likewise, the navy give air support to basically everyone, so no worries about throwing a thunderbolt in there.

Cadians, krieg, valhallans, armageddon steel legion and vostroyans all do combined arms stuff, I think. Best looking ones are vostroyans and krieg, but both are expensive and fiddly to work with. As far as I know, nobody does really nice guard alternatives in plastic, so you are pretty much stuck with cadians for now. One possible option might be to go for savlar chem dogs and do most of your infantry from the new necromunda range, but I'd wait to see the prices before deciding on that.

>>55223273
Sounds like Elysians

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>>55223273

>guys with giant breastplate armour and guns with long thick hoses
>modern feel

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as someone who sucks at making lists id like some help for a chaos list thats slaanesh only. ill be using daemons and marines

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Yey, my second Start Collecting Skittles is here, as well as my Spider Queen to make an Archmagos out of.
SQ is a bit smaller than I expected, but I think Draykavac will still fit into the spider abdomen with a little chopping and greenstuffing.

Only problem is that the spider fits neatly onto a 60mm base and Cawl is on a considerably larger one. Can anyone think of a good scenic base to make pic related fill a bit more space?

>>55223302

I would wait until the Codex comes out in late September, may as well see if we get buffed or nerfed or whatever first.
Fluffwise I would say go for it, and we're not exactly terrible as is, just a little one-note at competitive levels. A little more variety than the 'Crons might be nice, though, so see if they fix a few of the worse units.

>>55222609
I have a copy of those files. Admittedly from 7e, but I still have it.

>>55222607
it's SEO, when someone googles space marine they get a billion results, if you google adeptus astartes or aeldari bam, gw pops up

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>>55223207
>All-female regiments more common than regiments made up of gangs/convicts/tribesmen

baka senpai

>>55223318
What about tau?

>>55223148
eagle orderly

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>>55223349
It basically is. I plan on using their models (but moderately converted). I'm also going to substitute the Officer of the Fleet model with a guy heavily converted to look like a modern day JTAC, since that is essentially the Officer of the Fleet's role.

>>55223350
Not using the scion models.

>>55223364
That's a pisspoor SEO strategy. You want people to be able to search for some generic related words to hit your pages. Branded keywords always lead to you because it's literally _you_.

Other anons are right, it's due to copyright and trademarks. It's all just been a steady stream of fallout since chapterhouse.

>>55223393
They're the biggest xenos faction

>>55222994
First, try playing at a proper size.
Second, your meta is obviously casual as fuck or stuck in the previous edition, you might want to bear that in mind when handing out advice.

>>55223241
Try third-most popular. Eldar are behind CSM because CSM are space marines.

Yes, possibly the biggest xenos but that isn't saying much when their new army has literally 1 box to it's name a year after launch compared to the most recent launches of 1K sons, Death Guard, and Primaris who at the very least got what, (Magnus, Brimstones, Terminators, Rubrics, Tzaangors, Blues, Ahriman, Sorcs) 8 new boxes? Even if two were recreations of old models thats way better than what eldar got.

>>55223410
>chapterhouse
Wtf I hate Chapterhouse now

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New codex and new models when?

>>55223440
Never, now go buy some marines

>>55223440
Never, you've been squatted.

>>55223005
How would you fix that?
They have a ok range of models but how would you make them fit well and play well in 40k?

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>>55223471
Never!

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>>55223490
>t. the guy who thins his paint with actual milk

>>55223440
A least get rid of the FineCrap characters and Flayed Ones

>>55223279
There are some Orky revolvers in the grotz box.

>>55223422
What, since when?

>>55223483
I dunno, I'm not the one that complains about them

>>55223525
Maybe if they did that they would be in stock for once. So we probably can't have that.

>>55223490
i wonder if the milk will make it smell after a while, though acrylic paint is plastic so maybe it'll seal it in?

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So whats it looking like for Deathguard? Will the new Codex release save them from their status as a low tier faction?

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>>55223558
Probably not.

Normies will rave at how 'tough they are' while anyone with two braincells will take T6+ stuff so, assault cannons, autocannons and so on and delete them.

>>55223510
Wait. What?? Story time! Tell me!

Lads, in the CSM codex there is some art near the start of CSm fighting Scions and some Red Marines. I thought they were Blood Angels (which makes sense due to BA and Black Legion being buttbudies) but the shoulder pads aren't Blood Angels, they're golden winged and a red orb not a red tear drop and black wings.

Which Marine Chapter is it? Angels Encarnmine or whatever?

>>55223273
>>55223349
>>55223403
Does anyone have experience playing Elysians this edition actually? How are they? Good enough to be playable until we get an IA?

>>55223541
>What, since when?
Just look at where the money go. Who got more attention both by GW and FW? Marines, Chaos and Tau

>>55223554
well 1% milk is like 99% water right?
>Use on Nurgle army and to bring the right scent to it.
>All these plebs care only about the visual
>step up to my level

Need to find out how to make a burning smell in the models for Sisters army now.

>>55223539
Those are too small, a hold-out weapon at best

>>55223599
>this cringey meme
If this was true (protip, it's not) then Dark Eldar wouldn't have had a revamp, Harlequins wouldn't have been made, Ad Mech wouldn't have been made. Primaris Marines would be Top Top Tier not holy shit wtf is this lmao tier.

Retard. You're the type of faggot who says GW makes rules OP to sell models and then remains silent when we link dozens of fucking examples to prove it isn't true. KILLYS YOURSELF SELFYOUR.

>>55223620
I remember when the Maleceptor was foretold of. That was something else.

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>>55223620
>Harlequins
>Ad mech
They're just a quick chas grab. They got one round of releases and then they died, see you in a couple years
>Dark Eldar
It was a needed revamp, still, they don't get models in a while
>Primaris Marines would be top top tier
They already are, since manlets look like shit and are getting squatted


>Retard. You're the type of faggot who says GW makes rules OP to sell models and then remains silent when we link dozens of fucking examples to prove it isn't true. KILLYS YOURSELF SELFYOUR.
You sound quite mad :^)

>>55223599
>Just look at where the money go
Marines, marines, and marines.
And surely Eldar if they whip out factions for them that often

>>55223658
Cash*

>>55223658
>Ad Mech
>One round
>Skiitari AND Adeptus Mechanicus
>AND Forge World massive range
>AND Knights
>Eldar literally got Corsairs from FW

Lmao BTFO.

>>55223577
Anon, I...

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I bet £5 that this will be FAQd to only say 'your fight phase'.

>>55223669
>He says when Imperial Guard have the largest selection of crap available after muhreens.

Cringe.

Currently attempting to sell off my Necrons to get into Tyranids

On the budget of $500 what should I get? Never played bugs before but they sound fun.

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>>55223292
It depends on what models you have available, but maybe something like this?

It uses the trukks as firing platforms, which I think is what they do best. Deploy big meks on foot to give protection from first-turn shooting, then load them into the trukks with the tankbustas if you want to keep them mobile or have them walk along behind the dreads if you prefer to have them buff stuff.

>>55223708
exocrines
purestrain genestealers
patriarchs
malanthropes

>>55223708
Malanthropes.

>>55223708
Swarm box. Rest on Carnifex

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They aren't perfect, but Z's Sisters of Battle are baller for what the cost.
30 of them for £23? I should have got more.

>>55223699
That's mainly for 30k. Lets see with fires of Cyraxus (and surprise, more Tau?
>Eldar literally got Corsairs from FW
Lol

>>55223706
Yeah, that's why we don't have modern plastic guards and half the FW range is OOP

>>55223708
Definitely go for malanthropes, they're the best.

>>55223745
How did Tau end up more popular than Eldar? They've been around like half the time

>>55223738
sisters have not aged well at all

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>>55223760
Mech suits.

>>55223760
Idk. I personally like their aesthetic more
And >>55223775

>>55223771
Agreed. But I wasn't saying no for the cost.
I wouldn't mind some new models that's for sure. Thunder Warriors when tho?

>>55223704
For real. What are you talking about? He did what now??

>>55223786
Anon, no one did anything like that. He was insulting him. His paint wasn't thinned or if it was, not enough. As if he'd used milk to thin it instead of water.

>>55223786
RGG painted Strawberry milk on his Guardsmen to make them less peach

>>55223786
>>55223792
Dude got "2%" milk advice last night and actually added 2% milk to thin his paints for his Necrons.

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>>55223816
This cant be true.

>>55223816
...and here I was with some faith in humanity thinking no one would do something that stupid.

>>55223705
only after enough sales and smurf tears

>>55223792
Why would you post about a topic you know nothing about? It happened yesterday. Do you just assume that nobody is that dumb? Here?

>>55223838
Yes, Anon. Yes I do. Did.

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>>55223819
>>55223786

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So what are the odds of them making new C'tan shard models and rules for some of the other C'tan like the burning one?

>>55223775
How do you fit you legs into the stealth suit?

>>55223925
Well some people use baby powder but I'm a firm believer in corn starch.

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Rate my 2k list:

Spearhead detachment - Space Marines - Ultramarines

>HQ
Captain
Master crafter Boltgun, Powerfist, The Sanctic Halo, Warlord-Storm of Fire

Liutenant
Bolt Pistol, Power Maul

>Heavy Support
Devastator Squad
Sergeant, 4 Boltgun Marines, 3 Heavy Bolter Marines

Devastator Squad
Sergeant, 4 Boltgun Marines, 3 Heavy Bolter Marines

Devastator Squad
Sergeant, 4 Boltgun Marines, 3 Heavy Bolter Marines

Imperial Guard Battalion

>HQ
Company Commander
Chainsword, Laspistol

Company Commander
Chainsword, Laspistol

>Elites
Commissar
Boltgun

Commissar
Boltgun

Seargeant Harker

>Troops
Conscripts
50 Conscripts

Conscripts
50 Conscripts

Tempestus Scions
Sergeant, 2 Scions, 2 Scions with Plasma Guns

>Heavy Support
Basilisks
3 basilisks with heavy bolter

Basilisks
3 basilisks with heavy bolter

Earthshaker Battery
3 Earthshaker Platforms

Basilisks and earthskaers castle around Harker for that reroll 1, warlord, liutenant and devastators castle up in front and power fire at things, Conscript blobs form living wall, scions deepstrike and hose something.

>>55223597
Stupid good

>>55224010
>100 conscripts
Feel free to stop posting anytime

>>55222280
Only if by elite suits you mean HQ suits.

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How many snipers is too many, anons? With some shuffling around of my Skitarii I've managed to put together the usual 10 Vanguard 3 Plasma squad, 10 basic Rangers, another 10 Vanguard who I'm probably going to order more plascals for and 10 spares, who will have four Arquebi and six Radcarbines so I can run any mix of special weapons on the other thirty.

Has anyone actually used Arquebi? They look decent, but I'm worrying that two units with two each would be too many snipers (214 pts).

NOVA GT rankings
top 5

Guard
Chaos
Guard
Guard
Ultramarines

Don't know about the lists much, aside from 1st using 120 conscripts+Elysians+Celes

>>55224043
I bet he didn't even own the 100 conscripts before 8th.

>>55222579
I have had thoughts of running a similar list.

3 trukk boy squads
1 trukk of tank huntas
Gorkanaut
Morkanaut
2 deff dreads

Not a lot of models at 2k, but I feel most of the shooting would go at the nauts, letting everything else get across the board.

>>55224010
Just add rowboat already, you might as well.

>>55224043
This list would have gotten him a blowjob for how fluffy and representative it was of the Guard in recent editions

>>55224097
Arquebus are very expensive (having 2 almost doubles the cost of a 5 man squad) but they're one of our only ways to snipe Characters and they're pretty good at that, they can also help out with light vehicles as well as last edition but sadly you can't get lucky and instantly cripple land raiders from front armour anymore like last edition.

>>55224143
Yeah, nah. A fluffy guard list would use actual guardsmen.

>>55223898
C'tan are not Primaris Space Marines.

>>55223898
With the way other races get psychic powers that change the way they can play their army (like Da Jump' making orks terrifying) I hope necrons get some C'tan Crazyness or Techno cool Items.

>>55224111
iirc the guard were all conscripts plus something
chaos was brimstones+malefic lords

didn't bother to look at ultras.

Tldr is that IG is super broken and we're basically relying on the next set of codex releases to bump Admech, nids, orks and eldar into being capable of competing because none of the codices have had nerfs for their army in them and guard seriously don't need a wave of buffs right now.

>>55224128
>>55224043
I've had 150 Guardsmen since 6th ed.
But the 3 stationary earthshakers are new.
Also using them as ultra smurfs is new, but its just so much better than the crimson fist one.
>>55224174
But actual guardsmen are garbage, until they remove the regiment keyword there is no in game reason to ever use them over conscripts.

>>55224137
What does he add though?
The biggest benefit would be from babysitting the earthshakers, but he is super expensive.

I am new to 40k and want to build a space wolves army for 2k points. What do you sperglords suggest? I do not want to buy anything from forgeworld.

>>55224189
With enough effort any model can be a primaris space marine.

>>55224220
Spam Axe+Shield Dreadnoughts

Thinking about it, what is GW going to give Nids for additional powers? Paroxysm and Horror were rolled into one, and Warp Blast is an ability rather than a spell now. What's going to be added alongside Psychic Scream?

>>55224135
>I feel most of the shooting would go at the nauts, letting everything else get across the board.
I wouldn't rely on my opponent making that kind of error. Encourage it, exploit it if they do, but don't assume they are going to shoot what you want them to shoot.

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>>55224214
>Rowboat is expensive
Not expensive enough

>>55224214
>But actual guardsmen are garbage
What's that got to do with the price of fish? I thought the point was what a fluffy & representative guard list should contain.

I guess I should add: if you're playing valhallans, then conscripts are fluffier than guardsmen. But otherwise I stand by what I said, a fluffy guard list should primarily utilise guardsmen for its infantry.

>>55223816
The smell would work with Flayed Ones.

>>55222065
Finally acknowledgement soul grinders will win this for chaos!

>>55224143
In seventh edition mass infantry was the optimal way to play IG. People didn't do it because it wasn't too obvious and you would still loose a lot when playing against cheesy tau lists.

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>>55222989

Not sure where exactly (Mont'ka I think) but I recall reading some lore about an inquisitor using a crisis battlesuit.
So yeah humans can use Tau gear but a mech-suit would probably be useless without proper training.

>>55224289
>>But actual guardsmen are garbage
>What's that got to do with the price of fish? I thought the point was what a fluffy & representative guard list should contain.
I'm playing traitor guard, but the tourney has a cap of 400pts of forgeworld because its "overpowered", if I could take big blocks of guardsmen I would, but 10 man squads are bullshit.

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>>55223539

>Grot Wepz

>>55224010
>conscripts
>allying guard and space marines
>basilisk and earthshaker parking lot
Looks like a fucking miserable list to play
>t. Guardfag

>>55224261
They'll probably just add Dominion and something to increase toughness/strength temporarily.

>>55222289
they shut it down because he fucking put a patreon on it, they knew about it forever. it's when he got fucking greedy that he got the hammer.

>>55224010
Waacfag detected

>>55224277
Entirely fair point, but if they do shoot at something else first, it let's the nauts get across the board and into close combat, which is were they really shin anyway.

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>>55224366
>6' to synapse taking up a slot
Please don't let this be true.

Rolled 1 (1d2)

1. Read book.
2. Paint models.

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>Play konor
>Bring necrons because they haven't gotten much love recently
>guy I'm playing says defender goes first
>we set up, I put necrons on the deployment line so they can tear into his space wolves turn one with rapid fire and tesla
>totally set up
>"well unless you can seize its gonna be space wolves turn one"
>"I thought defender went first?"
>"nope, attacker"
My fucking face when

>>55224370
He had patreon for years, was also linked to his blog

>>55224420
Watcha readin', Anon?

>>55224169
To be fair, pretty much nothing CAN anymore short of a Turbolaser.

I normally play against Space Marine armies, so I felt that having some way to disable those bloody plasma rerolls on the zillions of hellblasters and Macroplasmas I see nowadays would be helpful.

Also, the model is just plain cool, despite the fact they'll be a bit of a pain to paint with no subassemblies.

I'll build my four now and see how they do, drilling some neat holes into Primaris Captains and harassing Rhinos and Guard characters and such is probably worthwhile.
Only problem is a lack of Troops slots sometimes.

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>>55224489
Blood Reaver

>>55224463
So you seized?

>>55224463
>In this mission, if one player’s Warlord has the IMPERIUM keyword, they are automatically the Attacker, and their opponent is the Defender. If both player’s Warlords have the IMPERIUM keyword, or neither player’s Warlord has the IMPERIUM keyword, the players must roll off to decide who will be the Attacker and who will be the Defender.

>>55223044
have not seen any of them irl, but going from the drawings Naomi is the only possible contender.

>>55224502
Nope, but I did eat about five short charges and got effectively tabled turn 4
Not saying I'd have won if I went first, but I certainly would have deployed differently if I knew I was going second
My fault for not reading the mission myself I guess

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>>55223898
C'tan have been retconned to being non-important. So no new models for them.

At best the Necrons will get a godawful looking war machine like this. I want anyone to explain what's the appeal of this thing?

>>55223898
Keep most of the C'tan enslaved, have a few that are freed and in control of their own armies so Necron on Necron battles can make sense.

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Just found a Warhammer Community employee on twitter.

>follows RLM
>Dunkey
>Jeremy Corbyn
>Wint/Dril

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So how are guardfags taking it that they're getting a codex and going to have their cheese grated?

>>55224587
My theory is that GW has no idea what to do with the necron aesthetic, because all of their vehicles are hit and miss in terms of looks.
t. necron player

>>55224587
I like the Tesseract Ark. Its like a Tomb Blade that doesnt look stupid.

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>>55223925

>>55224628
Why do you fucking care? Kys. ADB also follows WE NEED MORE WOMEN AND BLACK PEOPLE IN SCI-FI Twitters, yet /tg/ sucks his cock.

>>55224629
I'm kinda excited to see what GW will do, this isn't Marines so will it be an accidental buff or a straight nerf pummeling.

>>55224633
>GW doesn't know what to do with Necrons
>Necrons are boring and don't have their own place
I see these opinions a lot. Poor Necrons, the most unloved?

>>55222641
At any given point in the nova gt area, I had 5-7 magnusses with two renegade double gun knights in my line of sight (and many many rowboats)

>>55224587
It is the only anti-tank Necrons have for the cost. The look is real bad.

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>>55224678
I love Necrons. They dont need these stupid Marine and Eldar fans to love them too.

>>55224307

Can confirm. I also had 100+ infantry before 8th, and the best way to play IG was the double platoon orders + psyker stack with Coteaz. FRSRF with rerolling hits and rending deleted just about anything you got into range of.

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>>55224675
I think not.

>>55224678
>Poor Necrons, the most unloved?
No that would be nids, necrons are just in an odd place in terms of the lore because GW keeps them out of the main conflict but use them as a major anti chaos deus ex machina that the current necrons don't care about.

>>55224678
Necrons had their place as the order faction to counter chaos as oldcrons.
Newcrons gave them personality at the cost of having any relevance in setting of 40k.

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>>55224678
>Poor Necrons, the most unloved?
That title belongs to another.

>>55224737
holy fuck I wrote that ages ago, not the guy you were replying too obviously, but I wrote that after just finishing MoM. God what an awful awful book.

Was that GW girls post just deleted or purged? Spoopy

>>55224756
Is that the new female Primaris marine??

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>>55224823

>>55224629
I don't play conscripts, so all I care about is that I hope they don't nerf the rest of my stuff too hard.

>>55224810
Considered doxxing, so I guess purged and thus a 2 week ban.

>>55224835
Ditto. I never used the 8th cheese to begin with. All my lists are unoptimized

>>55224756
Most players these days dont really know about sisters or realize they have models and rules.
I dont think they're even listed as a seperate faction anymore, just part of the inquisition maybe?

>>55224835
I'd say that the tanks will probably get a buff, but the conscripts will probably get completely owned.

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>>55224629

We don't care if overpowered stuff is nerfed, we care that it is over-nerfed into uselessness. Remember that we were guardfags before guard was good - it's hardly fun now that we are OP and suddenly every WAACfag in the hobby is buying gray tide IG to play against drone spam, giving us a bad name.

I'm just worried GW will overreact and give us a shit book for the next 5 years.

>>55224855
Damn. I was on mobile so I never saw if they were qt or not.

>>55224628
Jesus relax. None of those things mean anything.
Not everyone is going to be an edgy fucker who sucks Nigel Farage's cock and hates anything remotely mainstream.

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>>55224835
Well, sorry. Prepare to see your vehicles, Commissars, and infantry take a beating. Also, orders will now require you to roll a 6+ and cost 1 CP in addition to your army receiving a massive point increase.

>>55224693
I'm sure that Morty is better than a Knight, although not being in pure DG detachment means that he can't get various goodies.

>>55224775
Well I also read this book, I was waiting for it long, finally book about Emperor, I was hoping for good book about The Emperor not chaos wankery and chaos is best stepdad.

>>55224881
But all the other codexes have been a flat buff to pretty much everything other than maybe on or two porblem childs.

>>55224881
Like we don't have the CP to spare

>>55224756
>Top of the meta
>talking and teased about in Warhammer videos
>Given one of the Best HQ plastic Mini's with rules and under point costed so it shows up large number of lists like Bobby G

Unloved yup

>>55224919
Celestine is the only plastic model they have.

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>>55224823
I would unironically spend all my money on Primaris Sisters if it meant they got the love and update they deserved.

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>>55224737
>being this insecure about black and women characters in 40k

The rest seems legit tho, I've never read most of his books so I can't confirm but most ADB fanboys tend to be whingey cancer. I don't mind the Emperor being a bit of a flawed fuck up because well, 40k is 40k obviously he was to some extent. But most stuff I hear about Daddyhammer is pretty...lame.

>>55224873
>Guardfags before guard was good
So like Third edition?

Because I remember leafblower,

>>55224881
Orders should be cast like psychic powers and be deniable or have counterplay.
Being able to just select a unit and give it double fire or just point at a unit and give it the ability to act normally after falling back is stupid, especially in conjunction with morale immunity from commissars.

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>>55224943
Please...who wasn't expecting some shit like this.

real 40kgfags know that DUNCAN is the only real choice

https://youtu.be/M5pTnm8oHYA

Here is a great video about how IG should be balanced.

>>55223715

Thanks kind anon! I'll buy whatever models I don't have, money not an issue, just a lack of knowledge

>>55224675
Not after MoM.

>>55224875
See >>55224704

it's still up for me. Maddie looks OK. Sarah has shorter hair than the picture.

>>55224675
>/tg/ sucks his cock
Retard newfag just came here from 1d4chan I see

>>55224943
Sarah is still winning my race

>>55224886
Magnus and Mortarion actually have a lot of synergy. Magnus' always wanted something to draw the focus away from him, and Mortarion will appreciate someone dealing with high-wound units while he AoEs weaker enemy units down.

Big issue is that both require Warptime, i feel. I think that the play is to have Mortarion get it on first turn, so he can draw agro, while Magnus can rush in to help on second turn.

>>55224943
Would still fuck Sarah desű

Maddy is probably thicc

>>55224463
So you made sure to call him out as a cunt willing to lie for a win.

>>55224943
tfw no mildly unattractive lanklet gf who also likes little army men

>>55224978
wait, if orders are like psychic powers would it be like the soldiers get distracted by the chaos lord yelling profanties at them?

>men, prepare to affi-
>hey Commander Fagballs, fuck you!
>the men attempt to stifle a laugh but can't remember the order

>>55223738
those are really bad but I can't tell if it's GW's or Z's fault

>>55224629
Don't care about Conscripts, I like mechanized troops and Leman Russ tanks. If the codex buffs mech a bit and severely nerfs the Whiteshields then all is well.

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Can I run Mortarion and Magnus in the same army?

>>55225121
Of course you can, retard.

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>>55225036
>40k will now be primarch or lose games with up to 4 primarchs in "skirmish" game
Well this sucks for everyone else

>>55225121
Can you run Guilliman and Celestine in the same army?

>>55225121
Yes, Kana. Go home.

>>55225107
Models didn't age well, but there's a lot of crap on and flaws with them that from a shifty casting.

>>55224629
what's this talk about a codex?

>>55225151
Guards, Craftworld Elder and Nids get a codex after Skittles and Death Guard.

>>55224992
>Platoons
Nope.

The whole point of all the simplification of 8th is to get rid of things like platoons and warpstorms. Sorry that conscripts have to change to fit the new rules but the rules aren't going to bend just for one unit, the unit must bend for the rules.

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>>55225151
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/31/breaking-news-studio-preview-from-the-nova-open/

>>55225168
but what's the source

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>Irish

Instant drop