Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>55208968
He is the law

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>tfw my game got cancled, and I was the last to hear about it because the others forgot to invite me to the Discord we were switching to

So tell me, how were your games this weekend? Any of you burgers have game plans for Labor Day?

What's the motto of your party and its enterprise?

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>>55208968
My PCs make sure to do all their illegitimate business outside of the city, for now.

>>55209025
1: Oh god, there goes the fighter (me) again, better get those CLW scrolls ready
2: We are NOT fighting this fairly
3: Apparently hitting it was the right option
4: Can't believe that actually worked

>>55209025

"Blessed are the meek, for they shall be slaughtered".

>character gets framed for a crime
>just use Zone of Truth guys!
>murder mystery
>just use speak with dead bro
>just use divination bro
>character can effortlessly disguise themselves and can BTFO most cities' entire populations by level 10

Fuck city campaigns, fuck political intrigue campaigns, fuck Pathfinder for anything but dungeon crawling and mindless slaughter.

>>55209223
Zone of Truth isn't infallible, and if you read the fine print Speak with Dead doesn't work if the corpse you're trying to use is too badly mangled in the facial region.

>>55209223
Whoever is doing the intrigue sure doesn't play by the rules. Zone of Truth can be avoided, Speak With Dead can be stopped with a few axe swings, Scry, Augury and Commune can be fooled. As for the level thing, well anything above level 6 is borderline superhuman so you got me there.

>>55208968
>1
Rules and codes are really important because they make folks safe and happy!
>2
Law is but a tool to fill your coffers, but there are other tools, and quicker ones to boot.
>3
To conduct oneself with noble purpose and chivalrous bearing is to safeguard thine beloved, thine liege, and thine realm from the heart's darker desires.

>>55208626
Can I get a read on this

What would be a suitable nickname for a band of mercenaries that primarely or exclusively recruits races or individuals/ with Dark Vision?

>>55208968
1: He can lift a wagon, two horses, a driver, the passengers and their luggage and spends most of his time in the wilderness, law is none of his business
2: Law's only good when it's Good, otherwise break it over your knee and hope that the local tyrants are busy oppressing somebody else to notice it
3: Swear fealty to your king and country and you'll be happy
4: Crime, like poker, is only fun when you go against the rules, no?

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>>55209400
Shadow's Bane
Night Stalkers
Twilight Band

>>55209399
No. Strapping a sword to your crotch doesn't make it an unarmed attack, it just makes you use a sword wrong. Same goes for strapping things to your wrists. And gauntlets don't benefit from Might Fist because they are a weapon already and Mighty Fist only affects your fists or natural attacks.

>>55209302
>As for the level thing, well anything above level 6 is borderline superhuman so you got me there.
So why continue playing?

>>55209400
Tunnel Snakes

>>55209525
So that you can cross the border and become Senator Armstrong.

Is Emergency Force Sphere a waste of spell pick for Magus?

>>55209506
I think you have that backwards, I want to treat unarmed attacks as a "heavy blade" for sake of feats and class features (like weapon training). I can treat a gauntlet-covered hand as a heavy blade on its own, as it can be modified, but I was looking to see if it was unreasonable to apply it to unarmed attacks in general.
http://www.archivesofnethys.com/EquipmentWeaponsDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Versatile%20design

>>55208968

Seems a good time as ever to talk about starstone Academy. What electives will anons take?

>>55209011
Nope, just relaxing and getting ready for my new job Tuesday

>>55205324
Black Ship allows it!

>>55209663
Whichever ones will help me become a Symbol of Peace!

>>55209625
In my opinion, no, since you're going to already be in the thick of combat, so having a means to NOPE incredibly dangerous effects and attacks can be incredibly useful

>>55209657
Gauntlets, yes. Bare fists, no.

>>55209792
Kind of a shame, but expected, especially with AoMF being such janky bullshit. I always forget why I don't really touch unarmed outside of UMonk until I go back and try to do anything with it.
The Unarmed-Gauntlet/Cestus-AoMF interaction is also a load of horseshit.

>>55209663
Getting raped in the bathroom by IDrive's DMPC.

>>55210168
I want IDrive to rape me!

>>55210168

You sound like you enjoy smegma cleaning anon.

>>55209011
Went alright. We convinced this sailor we know and his fiance to fix and pilot our flying ship to kill a god. He was sweating profusely because he remembered what happened the last time he sailed with us, but he couldn't say no to the little lady.

>>55208968
>Character A thinks that the laws are generally best for everyone, and when they're not, they should be made so by direct action.
>Character B thinks that laws aren't worth worrying about, you just do what's right.
>Character C thinks that you should just keep your head down and try to get what you can for you and yours, before those who make the laws can take it from you.

>>55209025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQrdKtPJxI0

Elven Curved Blade: Worth a feat or apply directly to the trash if not an elf?

>>55210396
C sounds like a dirty peasant

>>55210439
There are certain men and women for whom even a place in society as stable as a peasant seems impossible.

>>55210428
I don't think any weapon is typically worth wasting a feat just to get proficiency with. Maybe for some very specific builds, but otherwise trash it.

>>55210271
Not as much as the, inevitably, all-female party will!

Why are bad GMs so common? Can never have ONE campaign fully completed as they crash and burn.

>>55210971
Because GMing is hard, and not everyone is cut out for it

I've got 1 hour to spend 1.5 million gold in pathfinder as a level 20 wizard. What do

>>55210971
Complete campaigns =/= good DM, I've seen good DMs that just have shit luck with scheduling or players leaving and bad DMs can finish campaigns too, they're just bad campaigns.

That aside though, see >>55211019. It's not easy to make a good campaign and making a great one basically requires the perfect storm of players, character, campaign, etc.

>>55211060
Buy every +5 item, Greater Luckstone, every +6 to 2 item (INT WIS and DEX CON) any high level item that gives you extra CL and lot's of diamond dust with whatever you have left after that. Or scrolls of Time Stop.

>>55211060
S C R O L L S
And maybe some Metamagic Rods, a sick set of high-end robes, and a pet Golem of your choice to carry you around

>>55211060
Trade goods. The most bullshit magical crap you can find. Horrible cursed items to give as gifts to people you hate. Scrolls.

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>>55171543
>without makeup
Did her poppets die?

>>55211105
>>55211123
>>55211354
thanks brehs, lets see if I live long enough to regret these purchases.

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More Agriculture Adventures:

>Third player (Halfling Rogue/Bard) never showed up, or answered my email, but I made a Halfling Warlord/Bard VMC Rogue
>Other two players never sent me anything about their characters these last two weeks
>Start rolling for six weeks of downtime
>Gold Dwarf Ordained Defender/Forgemaster of Dumathoin wants to build an Altar
>Moon Elf Kensai/Evoker wants to build a False Front
>They want to build in the big city instead of the farmland they were awarded
>Nearby Mageduel creates a Wild Magic event and unearths some Untherite ruins
>Race orcs to ruins
>PCs are given horses and leave the next morning
>Encounter A: Half-orc Hawkguard - Dwarf runs at him after getting disarmed and shot twice (Music: FF15 - Stand Your Ground)
>Encounter B: 2 Wolves - Elf hides behind the halfling archer while he's in melee and shoots a wolf
>Elf player rolls for Knowledge (History) for the pregen, and realizes the ruins are actually Imaskari, and millenia older than they thought
>No one passes any Knowledge or Linguistic checks to know more
>Halfling detects and disarms the first two traps
>Encounter E: Gelatinous Cube - No problem, but find too many coins to carry out. Also find a plot hook.
>Halfling misses the third trap, and Dwarf is hit with Burning Hands
>Encounter G: Half-orc Vigilante (Stalker) and two Orc Fighters - Elf uses Blindness on the Vigilante before he can use any maneuvers
>Dwarf gets surrounded and taken down to 1/3 hp
>PCs stay in ruins overnight
>Dwarf knocks over a statue to see if it or the base had anything
>He can prepare Make Whole tomorrow

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>>55211969
>Night falls
>Orc siege of building (Music: FFT - Night Attack)
>Cannot find Here Lies Balin song
>Dwarf still thinks he is playing his Ranger/Druid, and tries to build a trap
>He settles for leaving two barrels of oil at the entrance and readying an action to ignite them with Alchemist Fire
>Elf and Halfling pick off two orcs
>Dwarf still taunting them to come in, but the orcs don't take the bait
>Orcs try breaking through magically reinforced stone walls, but give up and leave before morning
>PCs backup shows up
>PCs make level four

I have to audit the Dwarf character sheet next session, since a lot of stuff was missing the last session.

I'm not giving them any more pregens. They can pay for hirelings. They'll also be fighting more Initiators.

Well he assumes he is still wanted in Ustalav and has currently been press ganged into service aboard a pirate ship.... so not the best.

>>55211990
Sounds like they can be really difficult. Sorry they're giving you such a hard time w2ut communication.

I want to know what happened in intrigue! I want to know who is entangled romantically!

>>55213190
PM the GM, then.

>>55213190
There is no interparty romance. Delnora is a bitch, Miri is two feet tall, Patricius is greasy and smells like a sack of dead rats, Godefroy is married and has enough mistrisses and bastards already and Mycroft is a big ugly half-orc.

>>55213468
Godefroy isn't looking for a new mistress?

>>55213804
Confirmed no by the player.

>>55213863
Let's confirm though, he's had mistresses before. I'm sure someone could tempt him.

>>55213893
I dunno he's very much a family man now.

>>55214163
Family man famous for gaining mistresses while out on campaigns. What is he out in now?

>>55213468
>enough mistresses and bastards

Don't be surprised when the females in the party are pregnant with his kids

>>55214237
>>55213804
What's the man's charisma?

>>55214276
3, but he has a trait that lets him use INT for diplomacy.

>>55214276
16 plus 18 strength body.

>>55214360
at this point the question is who will he fuck first?

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>>55213091
The sad part is how the Dwarf ran that last encounter.

For melee, he normally has a +8. It would have been +9 because of Hatred. For ranged, it's +3. His setup would have required him to go throw Alchemist Fire at a five gallon barrel from behind some stone desks (two range increments).

I thought he would have stood on top of the stone desks to get the higher ground advantage, used some maneuvers, and used Defensive Focus to regain those maneuvers and gotten Combat Reflexes to kill the four orc swordsmen while the other two characters killed the two archers. The swordsmen had AC 14, and the dwarf would have had +10 to hit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyevhryWKHk

I want to trick a Contract Devil into an embarrassing situation!

Alright, I can't find it myself so far, so I need a hand here.

I know someone remembers that time that one of the Pathfinder devs said that they wanted to keep martials down, that they couldn't be allowed to be equal to caster, and all that shit.

Where's the source on that?

>>55214890
They've never said something like that explictly. The only time they've said anything close to that is "wanting to maintain the balance/theme of what was in the CRB" which then had the MSPAINT text of "Since Martial's are under powered in the CRB, that means keeping them down."

Honestly though, I attribute a lot of PF's issues to incompetence and delusion as to how their own game functions as opposed to outright malice on Paizo's part.

>>55214943
"Never attribute to malice that which can be more easily explained by stupidity."
- Hanlon's Razor

>>55214943
What's the direct source on it?

>>55214381
Who's the most likely to fall in love with him?

Whats the raunchiest a published piece of pazio material has ever gotten?

>>55215126
The Mask of the Demon Mother? The Yuan-Ti brothel? The monster that impregnates you? The ghost with no legs?

What would you recommend as a sidearm to a polearm/two-handed weapons? Would you equip the whole party with polearms?

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>>55215203
>Yuan-Ti Brothel
I'd say this module tops it, but I'm not sure if that was Paizo or just something from JJ's headspace.

>>55215249
Wait, the NPC codex?

>>55215203
>>55215249
Whats the yu ting brothel from?

>>55215285
I mean the image I posted is from the NPC codex. Figured folks here would dig it.

The Yuan-Ti brothel is from a module for Dragon Magazine called the Porphyry House Horror. Featuring Yuan-Ti brothels, Hydra's getting gang raped by pirates, and porno mags in treasure stashes.

>>55208968
This one's a doozy
A the Cleric: No strong feelings
R the Sorcerer: Perpetually wanted for Arson
K the Paladin: Follows it, but isn't afraid to torch a fool
C the Ranger: ...
S the Ranger and S the Ninja: Between the black markets, prostitution, and noise complaints, the bail on these two practically pays for the entire constabulary
R the Rogue: Tries to follow, but the glint of gold is too good
S the Barbarian: He's had his rabies shots and his tracker chips, so he's good

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>>55215383
>Decide to Google it
>Author:James Jacobs
Holy fuck Jacobs is a regular Whizzard isn't he? Is there ever a time when he's not traipsing dangerously close to the piss forest?

>>55215658
JJ is /ourguy/ he just got bullied into submission by females...though he does like drows so he might be into femdom.

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>>55209011
I'm running an intro-session for a new player so he gets caught up with the campaign setting.


Do you think Bug-Folk would like country music?

>>55216522
Bugfolk like string-like instruments, shit closer to violins than banjo's.

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>Always joke with my party about doing broken shit
>Like the rope trick shenanigans
>Peasant railgun
>Never serious about it
>Leave to join the army
>My face when I got a letter telling me they decided to do the peasant railgun
>They used my Large +2 Good Bane, Returning Greatsword as ammo
>"Who the fuck caught my greatsword after you fired it down a peasant railgun?" was my only question
>Still have no answer as to who caught the sword or what the fucked happened to the world with a greatsword flying through shit at like mach fucking 5

How rare should higher level NPC's actually be? I'm trying to develop a program, and thus the math behind it, to stat out every NPC in a given population. Assuming that your average human NPC is level 3 or so by their thirties (level 1 upon majority, 2 levels gained in miscellaneous experience) how many HIGH level characters should there be in that population? 1 in 100,000 being above level ten? 1 in 1,000,000? Lots of settings assume there are clerics around that can cast resurrection, a spell requiring level 13. How common should these guys _acutally_ be?

>>55216876
The only thing that matters in that calculation is that when a Wizard hits Level 20, the world ends.

Or at least, Fallout ends. Those dungeons you are clearing out were shelters. You were never in ye Olde England.

How reliable are gnolls as mercenaries?

>>55217142
As reliable as they are as waifus.

>>55217152
So extremely?

>>55217142
Depends on just how hard your GM goes on their Chaotic Evil alignment.

Gnolls are generally pretty good as mercenaries if you assume that they work for whoever can keep them paid well and allow them some excesses every so often--a rape here, a few slaves taken there.

If your GM decides that they're basically creatures of pure id who never do anything but rape and murder, even when it would actively harm them and their employer, then you should not hire them.

>>55217142
Well the rule of thumb (for medieval warfare) is that most professional militaries had their morale break at about 30% casualties, because that's the point where the fear of getting shot/stabbed switches from "this happens to other people" to "this may happen to me next". Green troops tend to break a bit easier (breaking at 10-15% casualties).

As Gnolls are big, violent and have cannibalistic tendencies, it would be reasonable to assume that they cleave closer to professional military (or even greater) standards rather than green recruits .

That is, if they're paid well. Mercenaries tend not to die for the cause like patriots or revolutionaries. A fight has to be worth fighting, and it has to have the potential of them getting out and being able to spend their loot. They're not cowardly, but they aren't stupid either. They may have their own clerics or priests but they're not going to be as reckless as things that have natural regeneration.

Gnolls are pretty happy to fight stupid things, and against things that are honor-bound because that makes them predictable, but they're not very fond of fighting highly intelligent opponents or things that don't give a shit about honor. Hobgoblins on the other side of the battlefield will make Gnolls pretty pissy (they'll suddenly want to be paid a *lot* more).

Has anyone made cards for DSP PoW maneuvers at all?

>>55217415
If someone did, he did not shared.

You can fill this cards - http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/28858/Blank-Cards-Collection?manufacturers_id=523&it=1

Or use one of the online spell-card (or 4e power) generators.

>>55217142
Gnolls are evil and live for excess. They're also lazy shits that take slaves. They're not gonna be very good soldiers, but if you hire them for a one-off thing where you state that they can do as they please aside from one or two limiters, then you should be golden.

>>55215126
Honestly, Burnt Offering is kinda up there.

>Lamashtu cult complete with rape and rebellious teenage girl having sex in a creepy cult cave backstories
>Implied orgies and goblin sex parties
>There's even a slutty NPC that tries to fuck a PC
>7th level commoner ready to fist you right after

>>55217929
I'd join a lamashtu cult.

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I wish grappling wasn't so silly and clunky in pathfinder! I want to constrict enemies with my deadly legs!

>>55218115
I don't think the mind-blowing sex is worth the body-twisting practices you'd be subjected to

>>55218244
That's okay I have a fetish for body horror.

How does an ability score like constitution play into the propensity for a race to give birth to twins/triplets?

>>55218244
What, you wouldn't fuck one of the Pillar Men?

>>55217688
Yea looks like ill have to write them up myself. Luckily i still have the 4e power card creator. So that should cutcthe time down a bit.

>>55218260
it doesn't.
But if you want it to play for your setting, or magical realm, or both - you can just use whatever correlation you want.

>>55218253
but what if your dong shrivels and falls off

>>55213190
Waiting with a big ol' proper greentext until next session (when prologue is over).
But here's a brief one.
>Party is tracking down some natural disaster threatening to flood the town or something, follows a trail of magic upriver into the mountains
>Why is there a dire hyena in the mountains?
>Rekt in 1 turn, flanked by a pair of little rockmen who stand doing nothing
>Except shout for help and make a fuckhugeenormous rockman get up from his sleeping spot and advance on the party
>Nobody speaks rock, fight is on
>Crucially the big earth elemental is shadow trapped before he can charge all over the entire party and wreck their faces with Overrun
>2 small and 1 large EE's are dismantled with a not quite minimal amount of damage, big guy finished off by THE SALT LICK from daddyknight's horse
>keep following the trail of magic, find cave, npc ranger girl says she has to keep climbing to make sure we don't miss it
>daddyknight can't get his horse through the hole, party enters the cave alone
>SPELUNKING TIME
>party goes straight for the money and takes no detours like a fucking homing missile with their nose set to "plot"
>find some ruins underground, with a bunch of mandatory skeletons to go with it: featuring DJ water elemental
>manages not to get molested to death this time either but the party is getting worn out and healing spells are getting scarce
>keep tracking through the place and find a bunch of loot
>and a staircase upward with OMINOUS GLOWING at the other end, where the magic trail seems to lead
>A big waterman guy stands at the center of an obvious ritual, calls himself LORDE HYX and is generally a very shitty dramatic villain
>Knightboy's kiddo almost gets dismantled by one of the helper elementals (again), but otherwise party manages to take the enemy out by rolling well on stuff; the angry waterman is cleaved in two and then REEEEEEEEEs himself out of existence
>a few minutes later the 2 NPC rangers zipline down from the roof
>TBC

>>55218536
I may add that the reason the party is short on healing spells is because Delnora at the last second switched out her healstick for a Wand of Enhanced Water.

A true teamplayer. I love this party.

>>55218552
>because Delnora at the last second switched out her healstick for a Wand of Enhanced Water
Wine > health.
Deal with it.

Got to capture two werewolves last night because my magus' btfo'd them with a silver long sword. Fought an insane undead serial killer and a terrible frakenstein monster I've killed once before and destroyed them as well. Really digging my new character and where the plot is going in my game. Setting is top notch.

>>55218288
Well.
I mean.
I'd fuck a Pillar Woman.

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https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/88190/the-dukes-coin

let's g0

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>>55218803
I have no idea what I'd want to play for that, but dear god I wish there was an archetype for alchemist that gave it deeds, grit and allowed it to load bombs/infusions into its gun in exchange for mutagens and poisons.

>>55218964
Steel Hound (Investigator) gets Firearm Proficiency, Grit, and Deeds at higher levels.

Grenadier (Alchemist) can infuse ammunition with alchemical weapons, but you would have to dip Gunslinger for the other things you want.

>>55218803
Oh my god I love it!

>3000 gp
Can we use that money to make our weapons masterwork?

>>55219476
Ye. Masterwork is an upgrade, not a new item.

>>55217929
>7th level commoner
Reminder that PCs under level 6 are utter rejects and paizo's initial dividing of level amount to percentage of population is never supported

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>>55219617
I use the Man's Life explanation whenever my players ask about high level NPCs.

>>55220010
>Man's Life

Ugh.

>>55220046
>BBEG
Ugh.

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>>55209223
My players keep casting Detect Evil. It's the most annoying thing in the world.

>>55220108
There are probably social implications to constantly casting magic everywhere.

Would you allow this race into your game? http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/3rd-party-races/alluria-publishing/squole/

One of my players wants it, and it seems okay to me, but I'd like a second opinion.

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>>55220108
How often do people generate an aura in your game? An evil creature with four or less HD doesn't even register.

>>55218803
>voice
Dropped

>>55220169
Looks fine. Maybe even a little weak.

>>55220169
No. Squoles have a ton of problems, notably being next to fucking blind outside of like 40 feet, which basically means unless your players are metagaming, the squole is useless.

Are there any spells, items or whatnot that let's you change the material a weapon is made out of? Like turn mundane steel weapon into silver or cold iron permanently rather than just for a single fucking goddamned hit jesus christ who wrote the blanch rules in this game fucking god

>>55220072
>Ugh.

Ugh.

>>55218803
That looks halfway decent! Good luck to you all.

>>55218803
>voice
Nah.

>>55220269
>>55220645
That's the default option, anons, the DM might not have thought to change it.

>>55220659
My voice sounds like an elephant being fed into a wood chipper. Nobody should be so cursed as to play in a voice game with me. Here's hoping he changes it, or I don't get accepted.

>>55220690
I hope it's voiced because I have a smooth one!

>>55220706
Oh yeah!? Well I bet your writing is shit, NERD.

>>55220706
>TFW your party's wizard moonlights as a late night DJ

>>55209025

To know death, Otto, you have to fuck life... in the gall bladder!

>>55220783
My writing is fine as silk, you cotton-mouthed cow tipper!

>>55220783
New Stormwind. If your voice is nice, your writing must be shit. Nice fallacy, nerdlinger!

Reminder that nonvoicefags are SHIT

What stats would you give to a starling? Raven without speech? Maybe with fly or reflex bonus?

>>55220977
Can confirm, I'm pretty much the worst. I don't use coasters, I piss in other people's cat's litter boxes, and I regularly commit tax fraud.

>>55220978
I'd use the same stats for a Thrush.
That being said, starlings are SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT! Fuck the Shakespearefag who brought those winged rats over here

>>55221013
Fuck you, I love starlings! Only the unwashed dislike the best fucking bird to ever take flight, you gormless profligate.

>>55221013
Well, it's supposed to be an Emissary from Desna...and it has star in the name...

Maybe an owl would be more fitting due to perception in darkness.

>>55221056
Friendly reminder that magpies are the best birb of all time and if you think anything else you're a fucking heretic and should burn.

>>55221073
Ravens and Owls obviously, just look at Odin an Athene. They know what's up.

>>55221062
An emissary of Desna would be a butterfly.

American Woodcock best bird. Look at that style they have when they walk. utter gods

>>55221106
Odin sucks cocks for magic, which is more than can be said for you and your shit taste.

>>55221109
That would be a diminutive creature. What stats does that have? Bonus? Reflex?

>>55221073
I suppose bonus to picking pocets...otherwise a thrush?

>>55220977
Reminder that /pfg/ doesn't deserve voice

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What business should one invest in upon arriving to a city?

>>55221124
>not secretary birds
>being such a Neanderthal
Go beat your rocks together and smear feces on things to claim them as your own, you absolute savage.

>>55220950
I've been told my writing is decent and that I could be on the radio

>>55221166
Textiles.

>>55221166
Organized criminal activities and private security companies.

>>55221193
>I could be on the radio
That's not what people mean when they say that you have a face for radio.

>>55221109
I want to FUCK Desna and then cuddle for hours

>>55221193
It's nice to know you've surrounded yourself with shit-eating sycophants. Everybody knows you can only be good at one or the other.

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>>55221136
Image size aside, this that butterfly look diminutive to you?

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>>55221106
But everyone knows the universe was made when Ilmatar broke the eggs of a goldeneye that had laid seven of them on her lap.

>>55221056
>horrible invasive pest
>spends all the time eating trash from suburban white-trash neighborhoods where they can't get outcompeted and pushed around by fucking pigeons
>Never really found outside of suburban shitholes because they get constantly duped on by all the other birds
>fucking House Sparrows are a more successful invasive species that starlings
Congrats, your favorite bird is the personification of white trash

>>55221288
And don't you forget it, fucknugget!

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What in the fuck is going on in this thread?

>>55221166
Adding to >>55221196, you should invest in dyes if they are produced there.

Typically, the best investments you can make in a medieval city are textiles, dyes and glassware, as they are simultaneously lucrative yet regional products.

My GM is letting me play a cheeky undead rogue. What's a good skele-rogue streetname?

>>55221370
Deep Bone.

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>>55221313
A bunch of peasant songbird fuckers are getting their panties is a twist

>>55221313
Birbtime.

>>55221370
Skinny Pete
Slim
Eyeless Davey
Jackdaw
Skullshanks
Jonesybones

>>55221370
Knuckles

>>55221377
Too raunchy
I'm thinking of something like Abracadaver, but sneaky

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>There are people in this thread
>Right now
>Who do not like the Jackdaw.

>>55221370
Drybones

>>55221414
Is he tougher than leather?

>>55221390
Gypaetus genus a shit! Go suck a femur, you bitch!

>>55221421
>Jackdaw
>literally just a gimpier and shittier raven

>>55221370
Indiana Bones
Skullker
Never Ribcaged
Toothpick
Al Skin-n-Bones
Dog Toy
In-Your-Closet
Spineless Bastard
Poor Yorick
Jolly Roger the Jolly Robber
Bone Topic
Tromboner Archon
Exo Skeleton

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Alright you faggots! I got 386 pages worth of NA birbs in front of me. Roll and get a page, then use a birb from the page for your next character, whether it be a fluff thing, race thing, motif, companion, or whatever the heck else you want

Rolled 314 (1d386)

>>55221509
HIT ME BIRBMAN

>>55221377
>>55221407
>>55221414
>>55221422
>>55221497
Hey cheers boys, good shit

>>55221509
I'd roll if I knew how...

BIRDS SUCK AND I HATE THEM.

>>55221553
You must forget to breathe when you blink to have such a stupid opinion.

>>55221544
Check the sticky on page 1 moron

>>55221544
Type the following into the options field of your post:
dice+1d386

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>>55221535
You got Warblers

Rolled 244 (1d386)

>>55221576
>>55221577
Cheers, cunts.

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>>55221598
Balls, its sideways. Is this okay, or should I just focus on the pics only and no info?

>>55221624
You think we don't got neck muscles? Vertebrae? We can turn our heads man, post 'em sideways!

>>55221624
Need the info for the motif

Rolled 185 (1d386)

>>55221509
Fuck me up my man, been meaning to play a tengu anyway

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>>55221553

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Rolled 22 (1d386)

>>55221509
BIRD ME UP BIRDMAN

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>>55221631
>>55221632
Alright

>>55221620
Poorwills, you classy mofo

Rolled 85 (1d386)

>>55221663
You're a treasure, Birdman.

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>>55221644
Terns. It's the sailor's life for yee

Is runelords worth playing from book 1~3? I was fortunate enough to play it from book 4 to completion but the beginning of the campain remains a mystery to me.

Since I'm trying to break away from my usual character types I'll probably try for a tian native that set up shop in sandpoint.

Would this fit in with the theme? Hard to tell since the Player's guide doesnt cover these topics.

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>>55221658
Congrats, you got a popular 007 N64 game

Why are all our best anons the embodiment of animals?

Rolled 54 (1d386)

>>55221509
Well I was looking for a familiar anyways. Sing us the song, you're the birdoman.

>>55221721
That's odd, because Books 1-3 are considered the better books in Rise of the Runelords.

As for a Tian native? That's going to be a little odd since the Kaijitsu family are the resident Tian in Sandpoint. You'd either be related, or trying to ingratiate yourself to one of the more powerful families in the region.

>>55221663
>goatsuckers
Lamashtu priest new meta?

>>55221729
Who are the best anons? I didnt think agriculture was an animal

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>>55221686
There's a joke about making babies here, but I ain't touching it

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>>55221757
I'm going to be the most flamboyant motherfucker in the party.

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>>55221733
Another seaman I see

Also, would any of you Anons believe me if I said I'm actually not a fan of ornithology?

>>55221728
Well with a name like that, I just have to duck everyone up with the short guy now.

>>55221750
Fennecanon and Birbanon, of course.

>>55221793
What about Owlanon?

>>55221809
Owlanon knows what he did to get himself taken off my list.

>>55221729

But anon, Leakanon's the best, and he doesn't post animals.

>>55221783
You don't have to be a fan of the science behind them, you just have to recognize the quiet superiority of birds. Or the very loud superiority, in some cases.

>>55221830
But what if I told you that Leakanon was a literal animal?

>>55221838
But anon, I'm the born anon and I prefer reptiles over burns
Also bugs, but everyone likes cute bugs

Actually scratch that, I just like nature and ecology overall, and it's hard for me to pick favourites

>>55221740
Would being some sort of low end retainer make sense?

The only campaign traits that appeal to me are friends and enemies and merchant family so at best I can stretch it and be from magimar or be some sort of stable keeper/veterinarian.

>>55221850
I mean, he literally has no thumbs.

Rolled 384 (1d386)

>>55221509
Do your worst to me birbman.

Where the corvids at?

>>55221885
>Would being some sort of low end retainer make sense?

It might, I could go into a bit more detail if you were fine with spoilers related to Jade Regent, but a Tian family that feels some sort of obligation to work with the Kaijitsu family could work quite well. Again, you don't even have to make it about honor or duty or anything like that, it could be wholly pragmatic considering Tian people tend to stick together.

Perhaps your character is a Tian native from Kalsgard (the largest Tian population outside of Tian Xia) who moved down to Sandpoint for the warmer weather, easier trade prospects, and upon hearing a successful Tian family is already there?

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>>55221929
Sorry, you got Red/pol/l Finches

Corvids are in the 280-90s, which means you gotta roll somewhere between 270-80, since the first 18 pages have no birbs

But at least you can play as an incredibly racist Wizard or strix or something

>>55221553
I have other field guides if you want. Any group of animals or whatever that you prefer?

>>55221965
No spoilers please, there is always the chance that I could play that AP later on.

I dont think that family was also mentioned in the PG so I guess it could work if I keep it on the vague side.

>>55216876
Anyone else got suggestions?

>>55221663
>Historians of all kinds – poets, songwriters and authors – have used the Whip-poor-will to symbolize natural disasters, imminent trouble and aching solitude. The more suspicious folklore even claimed that if the Whip-poor-will called at your doorstep that death was soon approaching.

That would make a decent edgelord, honestly. I could go for this. I'll actually use this for one of the recruiting games, maybe.

>>55222037
>I dont think that family was also mentioned in the PG so I guess it could work if I keep it on the vague side.

The Kaijitsu family is pretty important in Book 1 of RotRL, it's not a spoiler at all to mention them. That said, be careful when searching for information about them, since the Wiki page is pretty casual about revealing story beats that happen in Book 1 and Jade Regent.

All you need to really know about the Kaijitsu family is them being part of Magnimar's nascent nobility, who have decided to move to Sandpoint about 30+ years ago to run a successful Glassworks business. The family's patriarch is Lonjiku Kaijitsu, a misanthropic old man accused of killing his wife five years prior, who maintains horrid relations with his children Ameiko and Tsuto, the former being the spunky, irreverent proprietor of the best tavern in town (The Rusty Dragon) and the latter being a half-elf (and thus a bastard) troublemaker of the worst sort.

>>55222134
Whipporwills feature prominently in Lovecraft's short story "The Dunwich Horror," I'd suggest checking that out too.

They're basically psychopomps, and would thus be in league with Pharasma.

I have an awful idea and I need reasons why I should not do it.

>Run Mummy's Mask
>Tell the party to really build the most Egyptian characters they can
>Switch to Starfinder half way through
>WE STARGATE NOW

Rolled 253 (1d386)

>>55221509

>>55222266
>"I have an awful idea"
>proceeds to outline the best idea
???

>>55222266

You hate fun things? You want to deny your players an enjoyable experience?

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>>55222282
Congrats, your name is now Phoebe!

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>>55222339
Enjoy your Black Phoebe.

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>>55222339

I can work with that.

>>55222285
>>55222298
I don't know, feels weird. You can agree the idea for a "Super Stargate" that lets the party come to earth is an awful idea?

And how would I stat a P90

How do I build the best swordsman in the world?

Rolled 195 (1d386)

>>55221509
Well, I was planning on making a harpy or kestrel anyway.

>>55222448
First, build a world with no other swordsmen. Then, build a swordsman.

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>>55222449
Here you go
>Pacific Rim theme.mp3

>>55222448
Be a mythic psion egoist

>>55222512
>ARE WE DOING THIS? HERE? NOW?

>>55222512
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE A HARPY OUT OF THIS!

What would a dragon omelet taste like?

>>55222563
Switch to Starfinder and get Power Armor?

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>>55222563
A kleptomaniac Canadian thug.
Or a Pirate
Or a Viking.

Steal from the Ternanon from previously

>>55222604
>Canadian birds that punch you in the stomach until you throw up their dinner.

>>55222604
>asshole harpy that kicks people in the gut hoping that food will come out while apologizing profusely but not meaning it
I could get down with that.

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>>55222563

>>55222675
>Jaegerharpy picking on ternharpy for his food
I could very much see this.

>>55222774

Man, vermin are cute.

>>55221693
>Terns

The best part of this is my main alias's last name is Tern.

>>55216789
Underrated post

>>55221168
Why have I been hearing about secretary birds so often lately? Are they suddenly a meme now?

>Get lost in a region in where two equally shitty factions are at conflict
>First faction welcomes us by trying to kill us and eat us alive. We fight back. GM "Well, by fighting back they tell you that they see you now as enemies"
>Move into the territory of the second faction
>They innocent sacrifice people ti their gods but they ask us to help them in exchange of not sacrificing us
>Because it wouldn't be ethically helping any of them and we aren't powerful enough to destroy any of them we decide to think about it
>Best liar of our team decides to tell the sacrifice faction that we'll help (it's a lie). But we try to escape when they aren't looking
>Both factions join together to hunt us down
The fuck is this, Dave, it makes no sense, you just want to throw everything at us just because

>>55216789
Peasant railgun doesn't even work RAW

>>55223052
I couldn't say. A friend likes them, I was shitposting, and they hadn't been mentioned.

>>55223060
Can confirm, I'm Dave and I hate all of you.

>>55223060

>They see you now as enemies

And letting them eat you alive would make you besties?

>>55223166
Yeah, it didn't make sense to us either, we basically got ambushed, we defended ourselves, and interrogated the survivors, they told us they hunted us down to eat us and that we made the mistake of retaliating because they will see us now as enemies so they'll hunt us down even more.

Natives, not even once.

>>55221370
Skeleton Manny, the Italian Mobster Skeleton

>>55222957
They're warm, good at getting home and have impressively large breasts.

Sounds like a trophy wife.

>>55223228
Pigeon's were once bred as pets and useful companions for decades if not centuries. Pigeons aren't pests, they''re abandoned pets

>>55223208

At this point, I'd recommend breaking out the smallpox blankets and selling the survivors into hard labor.

>>55223250
Don't forget that Dove type birds have always been popular game birds

>>55223270
>>55223250
I want my busty domesticated dove harpy wife to cuddle up next to me and coo!

>>55223060
>when the GM handles you in silver plater a free pass for genocide
Dude, kill them all and burn their towns

Does anyone has a link to a decent harrow medium homebrew? Because today i remember how cool harrow medium was, and how shitty the new medium is (bar spirit dancer, but even there, it's not really a binder, it's a fucking factotum)

>>55223452
Strange, what is this warm and fuzzy feeling in my chest?

>>55223507
That's a heartburn. Cut down on sodium and fatty food. But hey, the gif is cute at least.

>>55223507
Loot should go to the char that needs it most!

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>>55223531
I agree completely.

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>>55223531
I also agree

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>>55223531
>>55223548
>>55223560
I disagree

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>>55223631
Speak like that and you'll never be a master of friendship for everyone.

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>>55223701
[ Hisses ]

>>55209079
Is that from trapt?

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For those who don't like birbs, I have other books we can grab stuff from

Rolled 6 (1d7)

>>55224105
Figure out which book this is and tell me how many pages are in it.

>>55224105
Yo, man, hit me up with the NA plant book

>>55224105
How many pages in Rock and Gem? I'm in the mood to do some variant oreads.

>>55224105
mushrooms.

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>>55224140
>>55224166

6 is the Rock book, it has 318 pages of rock stuff, including Catagories of racks, and fossils, so you may get a reroll due to the book layout

>>55224159
You got 403 pages, get rollan

>>55224229
Shrooms got a wierd layout, as do the Mammal book. First halfof the book is pictures/plates, then the second half is the text. May have to roll for plates instead of entries, then give you the entries afterwards.

For now, just roll for 756 for the different plates, then I'll see if I can get you both the plate and the text together

Rolled 211 (1d318)

>>55224294
If the dice have given me minerals, I'll roll until I get them.

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>>55224327
Sadly for you, literally the next page would've been Lazurite

Rolled 51 (1d403)

>>55224294
Give me something good :D I want to be the best plant!

Rolled 17 (1d318)

>>55224294

>>55224371
So I'm mineral fertilizer, cheap decoration, or cheap, decorative fertilizer.

I'm not sure how to combine this with the duck, but I'll figure something out.

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>>55224386
>Asked for best
>Got literally the worst and one of the most hated of grasses
I-im sorry anon. Don't worry, I hope you'll make it

>>55224407
You could make her salty, or give her a fragile ego

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>>55224395
You got this page spread thing on The Devil's Tower. Would you like a reroll?

Or do you want your character to be down with the devil?

>>55224500
>I am the Devil's Tower
I can live with this.

>>55224455
That just means my Dryad Druid has other plans in store... Plans to infest all of the natural world, to become the one true plant!
Also, rerolling due to interest. Great idea, man!

>>55224820
>to become the one true plant!
Until around August, when it all dries up and catches on fire and burns the whole Great Basin to the ground

>>55224820
So, are you actually going to roll, or did you forget how to use dice on 4chan?

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>>55224294

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>>55225238
Alright, you now got an Apline crystal with perfect cleavage

>>55225311
Woo!

I think it's kinda telling about the quality of threads when the most fun discussion they've had for a while is about people seeing WHAT FUCKING PIECE OF ROCK THEIR NEXT CHARACTER IS. Seriously, has the well dried up so much with mechanical and fluff talk that there is nothing to talk about if somebody doesn't invoke memes or people whose names are rightfully no longer present in most discussions hopefully.

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>>55225311
>>55225348
Forgot the picture

>>55225353

Well, we aren't allowed to talk about the recruiting games in here anymore, apparently.

I need water-themed magic items. Is there anything in the elemental madter's handbook, or elsewhere for that matter?

>>55225353
Pathfinder is dying, what else did you expect?

Now shut up, and roll up a rock or a mushroom, or something. Besides, its better than fapping to celeb drama

>>55225429
The last several books had lot of water items, including Elemental Masters, Blood of Sea, and Aquatic Adventures

>>55224105
>don't like birbs
Heresy

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>have a fun character concept
>the racials and class don't mesh well together

Is an Intelligence penalty a deal breaker when playing an Aegis? Is 12 Int enough?

>>55225565
How about you tell us the concept, and we can try to give you alternative ideas instead

>>55225353
>nobody is allowed to talk about their games, even if they're not in a /pfg/ game, because someone will inevitably connect the anon to a name on discord and yell about how awful that person is
>talking builds is impossible because, despite the unspoken ban on talking about games, people will automatically assume content is allowed and call you and your group shitters for not using it
>God fucking forbid you want to homebrew anything, as the only time it gets any real attention is if it's a massive meme people latch on to, you act like a huge faggot and post about it over and over, or you do requests

>>55225565
Will make your Augments a one-round thing until you can grab a headband of int, but short of running DC-based maneuvers, you'll be fine.

>>55225612
>God fucking forbid you want to homebrew anything, as the only time it gets any real attention is if it's a massive meme people latch on to, you act like a huge faggot and post about it over and over, or you do requests
You'll probably also be accused of being Vult, DHB, SSDK, or any other raft of personalities just because you're talking about homebrew.

>>55225612
Who gives a shit about any of that? Are you here to make people happy or to discuss pathfinder? If they don't like what you are talking about they are free to ignore it, if they are shitters ignore them.

>>55225565
Aegis is really pretty ability-agnostic. 12 int will be fine until you can get a headband.

>>55225677
The problem is that discussion of this side-circus completely derails any fruitful discussion to be had on the topic at hand. At this point it's not worth my while to wade through dozens of:
>Fuck off, Vult
>Hi Disk
>Didn't we already kick you out of our clubhouse, Rory?
to get maybe one half-way decent comment out of the exercise.

>>55225612

What's some homebrew you'd like to bring attention to, anon?

>>55225727
Just ignore and report shit posting what happened to pfg where this garbage is allowed now?

>>55225728
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EgpSnNxiXt7Dn3GGy-b6CwCmxXosVH8dzWklpuhVviE/edit

>>55225765
>404 not found

>>55222160
Anon, that's already covered; Pharasmans with Summon Monster can summon up Whip-Poor-Wills (use the stats of an eagle).

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>>55225677
It's not about whether I care about what people think, it's about knowing the thread pattern. There are things that trigger the absolute FUCK out of people and cause shitstorms, meaning you pretty much CANNOT bring it up without causing at least half-a-thread's worth of a firestorm.

It could be something as simple as an image, even.

>>55225728
I honestly haven't been able to care much about homebrew, but that's mostly because I never actually see anyone allow it so my spirits are down. Why get hype for something like "Muscle memory as a feat chain!" if I can't actually use it?
Closest thing offhand I like is the "errata compilation", but that's not homebrew, and it seems to have stopped updating.

How do Wayfinders work? Is it like a watch that you have on your wrist? Do you keep it in the backpack? Do you have to hold it in your hand to gain the benefit of the improved ioun stone?

>>55225918
It's a compass and follows the usual rules of slotless items: It has to be carried to gain the benefits, which usually means you have it hanging off a belt loop or something.

Yo I run a living world gaem on discord/R20 and we have custom built races and rules and allow nsfw the roll20 link is below and has the discord and forum links in it you don't have to post in the forum to get invited just join the discord!
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/87451/the-crater

>>55225896
>Doesn't like celeb culture
>Posts art from a celeb's Young Casimir Aldori app for the Ruse Cruise
:thinking:

>>55225958
Ok, that doesn't seem too difficult. Any reason not to get all of them?

>>55225979
>living world gaem
Ugh.

>>55226007
Stacking issues and your GM jumping on the table and flip kicking you in the chin are the usual two problems.

>>55226007
You can spend that gold better.

>>55226031
More rods?

>>55226018
That would be quite the sight to behold.

>>55225999
>I didn't get the joke
>I also will make wild assumptions

>>55226055
When you start abusing wayfinders, something your average adventurer shouldn't even have, bar finding a dead Society member. many a GM will find untapped power from their chubby little legs.

>>55226153
>500 gp
>crafting requirement can be bypassed
>PF society doesn't have much of an entry bar besides being nonevil, and a CN/CG character could get away with justifying in-alignment distributing the schematics around.

>>55226153
>adventurers
>not getting magic compasses

>>55226153
They seem to be easy enough to craft, especially the basic ones.

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>Oracle just pinged. level 4 gets access to 2nd level spells.
> just 1 spell known besides CMW and revelation bonus
>mixing mounted ranged combat and spells

Suggestions for my lone spell slot?

>>55226303
Why are you picking up cmw?

>>55225979
>le living world meme
Fuck off shill.

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>>55226206
Remember that mechanics and fluff are mostly separate no matter the level and stuff like "Average person is X strong" gets thrown out the window because adventurers and fringe cases and especially in the case of player characters who are canonically way too strong to be as strong as they are in such a short time span bar divine intervention. Fluffwise wayfinders and by extension ioun stones are pretty much impossible to make unless you've studied your life a dozen of them or have access to Society's knowledge of the said items (even an implication that ioun stones are found as is in ruins and just circulate from wizard to adventurer to bandit to monster to dragon hoard) and rules are there for them because, well, everything has to have rules unless they are artifacts. And fluff wise, again, Pathfinders are real keen on keeping their secrets secrets since their whole existence is to keep old stuff under a blanket.

new thread

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>>55226319
Probably because Oracles can get it automatically.

>>55226303
If you have darkvision darkness, if you don't have darkvision hold person.

>>55226348
Interesting, didn't know that.

So Crimson Sphere might be cheaper once you got your +6 headband...

Im wondering about Flurry of Blows.
If I'm a level 5 monk and I make a full attack, how many attacks with each hand do i get and at what attack bonus?

>>55228038
You sound like you're new to Pathfinder, so I'm going to suggest you either crack open a copy of the Pathfinder Core Rulebook or look on the PFSRD (a website that collects various published material for Pathfinder which people like you can view for free). Find the Monk's class feature table and take a gander at it. I'll show you where their page on the Monk is.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/monk/

Now, if you look at that table towards the top of the page, you'll see one column is labeled "Flurry of Blows Attack Bonus". Reference that against your level, and you'll see how many attacks you make while using Flurry of Blows, and what your bonus on each attack in the flurry is. That number accounts for your BAB, but not anything else you might add like your STR mod or bonuses from things like Weapon Focus or magical enhancements. For a 5th level Monk, that "base" flurry works out to +3/+3, meaning two attacks at a +3 bonus each. Again, remember to add stuff like your STR mod to each attack because that's not factored in.

Also, as a monk you can take those attacks with any part of your body. You could deliver both with one hand, one with each hand, or you could use neither hand and attack using kicks and headbutts. It makes no difference; the damage you deal and your bonus to hit with each attack won't be affected by which part of your body you're using.

>>55228574
lol, im not new. I've just never been a DM in the position of needing to know the way FOB works.

Thanks though. I'll remember that.

>>55228645
>>55228574
I was wondering because im building an NPC that is a 5 Monk, 5 Barbarian, 5 Duelist.
Plus I was going to build guard NPCs that can use that attack and have Keen Stump Knives

>>55228645
If you're not actually new to Pathfinder, then I'm going to give you the slightly more complicated explanation of how Flurry of Blows works. When a Monk uses his Flurry, he's basically just being treated as if he 1) had full BAB from his class instead of 3/4s and 2) had all the Two-Weapon-Fighting feats his would qualify for if he actually had full BAB (and ignored the other prereqs for the feats).

>>55228663
In that case, when he's flurrying, treat his monk levels as if they contributed full BAB instead of 3/4s (a +5 bonus instead of a +3) and give him one extra attack at his full BAB, but apply a -2 penalty to all of his attacks.

So for a Monk 5/Barbarian 5/Duelist 5, that would be an attack routine of +13/+13/+8/+3.