Pathfinder General /pfg/

>obligatory private greater demiplane

Is your character attractive without makeup? How much gold does she spent on it?

>>55171200
Are wall mounted torches ambient lights? Do they get extinguished by darkness because they are torches?

>>55171543
She hasn't had the luxury of make up for a few months now yet she is still the prettiest thing within dozens of miles.

>>55171718
They're the first warning sign a dungeon is inhabited, anon, because they can't light themselves.

My players didn't even think about it when I described the hallways as being lit by torches. They were shocked when the door they tried to open because it was locked was opened by the bugbear who was in the room sleeping. they asked me how they could have possibly known the uninhabited castle had monsters in it.

>>55171543
Not really. she's got a somewhat sharp boned, angular face, though she's got a lithe body the rogue is jealous of and eyes to die for. The female bard is crushing on her so i guess someone thinks she's pretty.

>>55171798
I'm just trying to decide here what a dungeon with wall mounted torches would have for lighting where a darkness spell and an eternal flame overlap.

Does anyone have art of that half-angel half-demon girl that got posted around here a few times?

Does it make sense for a Skald to be the leader of a band of mercenaries?

>>55172148
Absolutely, since he generally has the charisma, leadership skills, and buff control to set the rhythm of combat for his allies and lead them into battle

>>55171200
>1
Sword drills in the nearest empty space
>2
Sitting in contemplation in the forest
>3
PMing his crush

>>55171543
They are all attractive without makeup, but the makeup comes out for the noblewoman when she's heading to proper events of any kind. Adventure is one thing, but people want her to look her best when she's at the ball or some formal feast or festivity.
So far it's under 10 gold, iirc, but we haven't had many parties either.

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How good of an idea is it to have an evil empire ruled by a puppet government of a powerful lich who maintains power through the distribution of addictive magic-drugs, and a war machine powered by animated constructs and a genetically engineered race which are also reliant on said drugs? All the while the populace is kept happy by a combination of supposed democratic governance, readily available creature comforts provided by said drug fuelled magic and slaves, and not having to worry about conscription due to said slaves forming most of the military?

Also, let's say that the Lich in question doesn't care so much about actually ruling, but rather just wants to have the perfect cover to allow him to experiment freely on a powerful artifact that is bound to the nation

>>55172126
Please be more descriptive.

>>55172364
Sounds fine to me

>>55172126
>half-angel half-demon girl
Have you tried either Deviantart or the local donut shop?

>>55172435
Stereotypical insufferable Mary Sue with clear angel and demon halves, such as having both an angelic and a demonic wing, clothes also split in half, etc.

>>55172558
I'm deliberately making an ironic special snowflake character

>>55172438
Sweet, just gotta get together enough narrative to properly explain how all this happened. Then, once I get home and in front of my computer I can write up the lore for The Republic of Ayngrol

>>55172578
If it's deliberate, then all the more reason to hit up DA for the art

>>55172594
I just remember one particular piece of art which got posted on /pfg/ multiple times and which would fit perfectly if I could find it. Google image search hasn't helped me so far, unfortunately.

>>55172594
yeah they'll be, uh, blatant to say the least

>>55171766
What's her Charisma? It isn't hard to be the prettiest thing in a dozen miles when she's up against peasant rabble.

>>55171543
She may be considered cute by some. She isn't overly attractive with makeup, though.

Within the modules and the adventure paths, are there any particularly good wilderness adventures?

>>55172693
18 without any sort of buffs, magical aid or inherent bonuses take from books or whatever have you

>>55171718
Torches aren't extinguished by darkness, only dimmed.

>>55167699
>First, "people asking you to stop" was largely one person who wasn't even serious
Patently false.

>Then you'd be better off shitting at people who actually posted sexual stuff in discord, of whom there were several.
Who says I don't? You're not being singled out as the only one, only mentioned for being representative of the level of obnoxious fucking constant posting about this game, lewd or not.

>>55173628
I'm not even in the discord and Mashallah annoys the fuck out of me.

>>55173670
Who's worse, Mashallah or IDrive?

>>55173716
I.Drive. It takes a special kind of asshole to sink a game and an even bigger asshole to think he can just say sorry and come back.

>>55173628
>Patently false.
Please provide proof of your claims witchhunt anon. You may be correct in it being literally >1, but it still sounds like a disgruntled and cowardly vocal minority.

>>55173716
beep.

>>55173806
No, I agree with witchhunter. Fuck off.

>>55173843
I'm just the MIDF. It's kind of ridiculous to bring someone up then get mad when people talk about them though.

To whoever had the idea last thread of a campaign where heroes save a dragons eggs from an evil princess I think I'm actually going to try and give it a shot. The question is what type of dragon to use

So I have a magus who already has plus ten initiative. Is improved initiative even necessary at this point? I always read that it's actually one of the most valuable feats a caster can have

>>55173966
If you don't feel like you need it, a Magus has plenty of shit to spend feats on

>>55173966
Get it, nerd. Be fast as fuck on the draw.

>>55173933
The type doesn't matter, what matters is their plan
The despotic nation plans of performing experiments on the eggs and newborn dragons, mutating them into dangerous mutant warbeasts to help fuel their conquest of the neighboring lands.

Regrettably, the Dragon herself cannot assault the fools themselves, as they hold ownership to an Orb of Dragonkind (which is part of their plan to control the mutant babies)

>>55174019
I think the type does matter at least a little bit, if only in broad strokes. Metallic would make the most sense, but some of the more strange dragon types that have been printed over the year could make for interesting options

So in the grand scheme of things how obnoxious of a tripfag is DHB? Like, what has he done to shit on this general?

I want CON to AC on a Dwarf Earth Kineticist.

Is this possible?

>>55174144
Speaking of DHB has anyone used his races?

>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WHL10oJslOkQlm8cgm2rXm88BQPzgNjQq3fAhUMg7b8/edit?usp=sharing

They look kinda interesting? WHat did he make them for?

>>55174144
Nothing much really. Just occasionally post homebrew and ask for critique and ideas. Otherwise he keeps generally disconnected from the thread politics and drama, and otherwise only gets mentioned when someone wants to either bring him up or shit on him. Really, out of all the celebs, he's the most reclusive and the lease celeb-y

>>55173966
If you've got a feat slot for it, take it. There's plenty of times you'll roll a 2 with that +10 initiative.

>>55173966
Not really. Magus is in the unique position of being better as a reactive caster than a forefront caster, because it allows them time to decide which options are best when the enemy has shown their hands.

So how is the main country in your setting run?

The government on the main one in mine is split between a Theocratic Bureaucracy and a Democratic Council Plutocracy who together run the government.

>>55174144
No witchhunting. Here to discuss game, game mechanics and games, not whether or not [name] has done [something someone doesn't like].

If you don't know whether or not someone has done something to upset someone, there's no reason to go looking for controversy.

>>55174362
Council of liches run the country and have to serve time teaching at colleges in exchange for getting assistance with research and political power. Surprisingly it works very well.

A very angry wight leads the military, the aristocracy is mixed with vampires and humans. There are laws about how feeding undead procure their food. Primary export of the nation is magical goods and extremely skilled mages.

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>>55172126
Not sure if this is the one you meant, but saw it just before coming into the thread.

>>55174424
Not the one, sorry.
It was a pretty cute girl.

>>55174370
What if we're witchhunting IDrive?

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>>55174144
DHB is fine. He talks about his characters directly instead of pretending to be other people who are "fans" of his character. The worst things about DHB are his tone-deafness, his inability to play a character that doesn't have a fuck-huge Diplomacy score, and the fact that he doesn't know when to disengage when being baited.

>>55174465
>doesn't know when to disengage when being baited.
To be fair, he stays civil as far as I know. Even when he responds to bait, it's usually to try and explain himself and respond honestly to criticism rather than getting confrontational like Vult or trying to weasel his way into convincing himself he's right like 2hu.

>>55174461
No witchhunting at all. People who engage in it should be banned from /tg/.

>>55174465
To be fair, the diplomacy score thing has to be a meme at this point. The first time he was just "sup, look at the bullshit you could pull off 1/day" and nobody has let him live it down since.

>>55174493
What if the people being hunting deserve it so that we can force them to remove themselves from our hobby to make it better for everyone?

>>55174541
Yeah, a better example would be his sleepy reverse trap for LoBaF. It started as "Oh shit son my Initiative bonus is gonna be over 20 at the start of the campaign" and then he realized "Yeah, maybe I should back it down."

>>55174559
No; and there hasn't been one of those faggots in a long time. If anything witchhunters are closer to it than anything else.

>>55174480
Oh yeah, he definitely remains calm and just makes his argument, but he keeps going long past the point that it's clear he's having an argument with a troll.

>>55174561
He entered the campaign with +18, he didn't back down he just didn't change it. People stopped caring once he got accepted.

>>55174643
Like the Naruto guy argument.

>>55174577
Fuck off. People like IDrive and Rory deserve to be chased off. It's handwringing faggots like you who want to give everybody a second chance that gives the shitters a foot back in the door whenever they come back to "apologize".

>>55173410
That sounds extremely motivational.

>>55174751
You're the sort of shitter that kills systems by chasing off everyone you don't like without realizing that there isn't really an influx of new players.
Old systems with a lot of competition in the market can't afford to be selective about their player bases

>>55174814
>no one can tell I'm falseflagging because I'm anonymous tee-hee, it isn't painfully apparent to anyone with a brain that it's one person doing this.
You sure fooled us anon!

>>55174814
aaaaa DHB~

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>>55174890
>only the people I say are okay should post
Fuck off.

>>55174944
>There's nothing wrong with leaking logs or trying to kill a game by raping and murdering a plot critical NPCs
I'd tell you to kill yourself, but you'd probably fuck it up anyway.

>>55174973
Don't forget the bamboozles!

>>55173933
Oh yeah that reminds me, dragons usually give birth to multiple eggs at once right?

>>55174973
I don't think IDrive ever leaked logs, did he? And wasn't the murder not strictly of a plot critical NPC, just the rape? And isn't that game still going, not dead?

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>>55172126
I found it by looking through the archive.
Here it is for anyone who might be curious what I had in mind.

>>55175012
The logs got leaked, I don't know by whom.
I believe the murder and rape were conflated into one NPC, but in reality he killed one plot-critical NPC and raped another.
And the game had to reset and re-recruit in order to keep going.

>>55174973
Argentum himself said he doesn't hold it against IDrive. Who are you to be upset in Argentum's stead?

>>55174973
Fortunately you're no more the boss of me than you are this board despite your self important shitposting and belief that anonymity makes you important and worth listening to.

>>55175012
Rory is the log leaker. IDrive is the rapist/murderer.

>>55175066
>Who are you to be upset in Argentum's stead?
Somebody who applies to /pfg/ games. Even if the DM doesn't care, I certainly don't want to play with somebody with a history of disruptive behavior.

>>55175067
>self important shitposting
I want to keep disruptive players out of games while you white-knight for their honor and I'm the self important shitposter? I didn't realize it was possible for somebody to be this retarded.

How good/bad is the Demon Dancer Skald Archetype?

>>55175061
>The logs got leaked, I don't know by whom.
Get your logs here, fresh off the presses.
https://pastebin.com/zUGVAmbf

>>55175177
If you knew where IDrive lived, would you tell 2hfag to kill him?

>>55174944
>>55174973
Both of you can fuck off. There's no need to defend the game culture of the thread, it's already dead. All the good players have their games now we're left with the dregs like Mashallah and Kawase. Game culture is dying here and I say good riddance.

>>55175209
I'd defend him from death!

>>55175071
>>55174751
I thought Rory fucked off after TSS? If he hasn't like, what is he even doing? I haven't heard ANY waves from him.

>>55175209
If I knew where IDrive lived I wouldn't do a thing because I couldn't care less about him or 2hu.

>>55174144
>Like, what has he done to shit on this general?
Literally nothing. The only one that shits on this general is the witch hunter that hates him for some autistic reason.

>>55174973
>>55174751
>>55175012
>>55175177

Actually, IDrive gave a pretty good explanation of what went wrong.


http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/54654751/#54656647

the tl;dr "shit, slept through game" and then "shit, I'm too much of a coward to go back and apologise, especially since it looks like I'm a giant shit"

So, it's incompetence rather than active maliciousness.

I'm still glad it happened so I had a chance to get in!

>>55175244
He's still around, but he's pretty quiet now.

>>55175297
Well, better than constantly fucking stuff up like 2hu or any of the new "celebs" that desperately want attention.

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>>55175290
>believing the sob story he's selling as he sets up for an obvious bamboozle

>>55175344
>animated gif of a character talking
>434 KB

hi tumblr

DHB is apparently quitting his job soon and said he is gonna have time to actually run games once he has. Who knows he might run a game here.

>>55175388
I'd rather see him run a campaign for Starfinder desu senpai.

>>55175388
He's been talking about a revolution themed game in a russian/eastern european inspired folktale setting for a while now. So probably that.

>>55175408
... Are you telling me he's the guy that was asking questions about the Steppes and Cossacks and stuff?

>>55175420
Most of DHB's worldbuilding was done shortly after RotJR kicked off, so it seems unlikely that it's him. But then again he might be expanding his work in light of his impending glut of free time.

>>55175408
>russian/eastern europian themed game
oh shit! time to tap into my ruskie heritage!

>>55175408

[SQUATTING INTENSIFIES]

>>55175420
>>55175455
>>55175465
>TFW DHB decides to run something completely different and makes >>55175408 look like a real asshole for getting people excited

>>55175420
I also was and I have nothing to do with DHB. It's a fun thing to throw in.

Can I have your best Dwarf art please?

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>>55175788
gotcha senpai.

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>>55175788

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>>55175788
Some more.

>>55175804
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>>55175838
>elfs
disgusting

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>>55175788
Look at this heavily armored warrior of a different racial flavor!!

>>55175819
Drow; Automata game when

>>55175862
Never ever, Vult

>>55175862
Run it!

>>55175862
I'd rather Drow: Gestalt instead before going to Automata

>>55175804
>>55175819
>>55175838
>>55175858
Please stop posting girls, I want stock and short tempered bearded men.

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>>55175901
gotcha.

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>>55175901
Say no more

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>>55175901
Here's your dorf tax

>>55175948
Why are dorfs so thicc?

>>55175899
Fair enough, but no one would understand Drow; Gestalt

>>55175965
what are you talking about, that's a stupid twiggy elf.

>>55175965
Because you're a cancerous memer who should reconsider his life choices and do the honorable thing and commit suicide you fucking thiccfag.

>>55175177
Yes, self important shitposting, because yopu have literally zero power to keep them out of games or from posting on this board or in the discord. You're a powerless child screaming about how you can't have your way. It's pretty childish, much like the idiot screaming about SJW shit in Paizo games, and just as useful.

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>>55175965
The proper term is "shortstacked"

>>55175974
Just get them to argue about whether cupcakes are cakes or not instead

>>55175974
What if you ran Drowkengard first?

>>55175975
Can you post more stupid, twiggy elfs?

>>55175989
>SJW shit
Please, can we not? You'll summon them. The less the word is mentioned, the better.

>>55176006
Because no one wants to have to deal with a shitty hamfisted rhythm boss at the end

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>>55176017
I don't have any, so have a haflling instead, it's all I got.

>>55176021
Nah, they're more interested in SF.

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>>55176017
Gotcha, senpai.

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>>55176123
aaaaaaaaah stupid ugly orcs!

Howbout we have a punchboy instead

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>>55176133
No problem.

>>55176133
This picture makes literally 0 sense.

/pfg/ what's a good level 3 feat for a Celestial Bloodrager?

Using a great axe, at later levels I plan to fly around using vital strike for combat. I am thinking of Furious Focus so far but other ideas would be welcome.

>>55176268
Weapon Focus and Furious Focus are good picks.

>>55176314
I'll probably stick with FF then, it seems i'll get the most mileage with it. Ta muchly

>>55175999
I meant everyone would just assume i meant a gestalt drow game

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> Play a wizard at level 1, spend only money on charged-slot spells for my wand focus.
> No blaster spells at all, only CC and Save/Lose, with some summons mixed in. Typically goes into plopping horses on the board because they can act as a moving wall with teeth.
> Whole party thinks I'm useless
> Mfw I'm spending all of my feats and gold into Magic Item creation
Later on
> Level 5 hits, I suddenly obtain access to the Haste spell.
> Spend fully half of my own pocket gold on putting Keen on the rogue's rapier
> Now the rogue does 80 damage a turn at level 5.

I've done crazier shit. The DM is banning me from using the "Continuous spell effect" function of MIC, because I completely derailed his campaign by using them to create The One Ring at level 3.

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>>55176417
>The One Ring at level 3

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>>55176417
>The One Ring
>Level 3
On today's episode of "Things That Absolutely Didn't Happen"...

>>55176417
Today on things mechanically impossible: Level 3 wizard crafting a major artifact.

>>55176417
Oh, you're using the "but the rules say that I CAN do this, regardless of the part that says USE OTHER MAGIC ITEMS AS A GUIDELINE so that I can't create rings of continuous True Strike!"

Congrats, you're That Guy breaking the game for your GM by mucnhkining the rules.

So, apparently the elemental lords ruling the elemental planes used to be good, but then got overthrown by evil replacements who put them all in artifacts and took over themselves right? Which books best detail this outside of the 3.5 guide to the planes thing and that one supplement on the elemental planes?

>>55176417
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/rings/ring-of-invisibility/

>having Forge Ring at level 3, when it needs CL7
>blowing a minimum of 10k at level 3, which would eat a significant chunk of a party's total WBL
>then convincing your GM to ALSO let you slap a bunch of what amounts to curses and shit on it for giggles

>>55177063
Not quite. There used to be two for each one, one good, the other evil. The evil ones got together and planned some shit, and manged to imprison all four of the good ones.

Planes of Power for PF explains all this in detail.

>>55176821
Technically, if he can make the +5 to the Dc check for every lacking feat and spell he needs, he could manage it.

>>55177132
Except he doesn't have the CL to make anything that even remotely has any abilities the One Ring had in addition to, you know, not even qualifying for Forge Ring at CL 3.

Pray tell which one of these builds would be more useful for my party: 4 implement occultist that specializes in utility and swinging hard at low AC targets or full on melee monster. The party comp is occultist (me), hunter, herb witch, rogue and paladin (stonelord)

>>55177132
You can't skip the feat prereqs with +5 DC, dingus.

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>>55177151
According to /tg/ by RAW you don't have to have those feats or anything, just add +5 to the DC for not meeting the caster level.

I don't think that can be applied to the feat, actually, but RAW it does apply to the caster level of the item.

I would also beat my player to death with pic related if they tried that shit in my games.

>>55177216
Well then let's see. Crafting is 5+CL so assuming we are talking the actual One Ring that's without a doubt CL 20 so that's 25 from the get go, greater invisibility is +5. greater scrying another +5. command isn't a wizard spell so +5 again and yeah I don't think he can get 45+ craft roll without rolling nat 20 and getting every single possible existing bonus he can get from anything.

>>55177216
It can't apply to the feat requirement, it can for everything else, but the sheer price of such an item means even if he could meet the obnoxious DC, he wouldn't be able to make it

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So I'm working on implementing a Pit Fighter build, focusing on getting the performance gimmick online cohesively. Nothing revolutionary so far because it runs into feat starvation issues, especially early on when you're stuck with deadweight performance feats unless the GM decides to throw you in the arena. Dunno how I can make it smoother, VSA Barbarian gives some interesting options with Roar of the Crowd but exasperates feat starvation issues.

CN Human
Traits: Valknar Alumnus(Dirty Trick), Freed Slave/Reactionary(ugh)/Veteran of Battle

20 point buy
STR 17(19)
DEX 12
CON 15
INT 10
WIS 12
CHA 7

1. Cavalier(Gendarme, Cockatrice) 1(Power Attack, Iron Will)
2. Cavalir(Gendarme, Cockatrice) 2 (Dazzling Display)
3. Fighter(Gladiator) 1 (Awe-Inspiring Smash, Deific Obedience[Gorum])
4. Fighter(Gladiator) 2 (Savage Display)
5. Brawler 1
6. Ulfen Guard 1 (Rage Power[Strength Surge])
7. Pit Fighter 1 (Master Combat Performer)
8. Pit Fighter 2
9. Pit Fighter 3 (Masterful Display)
10. Pit Fighter 4
11. Pit Fighter 5 (Raging Vitality)
12. Pit Fighter 6
13. Pit Fighter 7 (Diverse Obedience([Gorum])
14. Pit Fighter 8
15. Pit Fighter 9 (Dirty Trick Master)
16. Pit Fighter 10

>>55177109
Oh right, they existed at the same time, nearly forgot. And yeah planes of power was the book I was mentioning, just couldn't remember the name.
Any remote chance we get the other 3 statted out ever? I'm thinking of trying to cook up some campaign where they try to free and return the good ones to their places.

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>>55175788
Here you go, semparino

>>55177216
>These prerequisites must be met for the item to be created. Most of the time, they take the form of spells that must be known by the item’s creator (although access through another magic item or spellcaster is allowed). The DC to create a magic item increases by 5 for each prerequisite the caster does not meet. The only exception to this is the requisite item creation feat, which is mandatory. In addition, you cannot create potions, spell-trigger, or spell-completion magic items without meeting its prerequisites.

Also, the CL of the resultant item isn't a prerequisite, it just sets the DC.

>>55177088
Vanish is a level 1 spell, so technically speaking getting permanent invisibility would just cost 1000 gold. The actual 1-ring I made had the following

> +4 Str, Con, Dex, Int, Wis, and Cha, all through continuous spell effect setups from the 2nd level buff spells
> Vanish
> Shield
> Mage Armour
> Glibness(Although I had to get the bard to assist me).

I then crafted 5 lesser rings of power through a similar setup, and gave them to my party members. To be fair, we did take out a rather huge dungeon that claimed the lives of 7 characters, and had access to a lot of money as a result. Everyone just pooled all our money together and let the wizard craft a shitload of custom magic items.

>>55176966
It's actually impossible to make a continuous spell effect-True Strike. Because it only works on spells with a strict duration. True Strike lasts until you hit something, which doesn't count for those purposes.

Otherwise I totally would have put that shit on there too.

>>55177663
>so technically speaking getting permanent invisibility would just cost 1000 gold
it really wouldn't, because the cost would get massively multiplied by the spell being measured in rounds

>>55176417
>Whole party thinks I'm useless
You're a low-level Wizard with save or love spells, I don't see how your party could think Color Spray is useless.

>>55177759
>save or love spells
My favorite kind of spells

>>55177759
They're pretty retarded. That's how. Although I've quickly found out in the current campaign that there's literally no point at all in using any buffs or defensive spells. And save-or-lose automatically fails on boss enemies.
> Throw a buffed-up "Blindness/Deafness" at the boss, with a saves DC of 19.
> DM blatantly cheats on the monster saves and makes them auto-pass. Even as I throw that same spell at them 3 times in a row.
> Use a combination of several buffs to get my AC to 25
> Suddenly all of the level 1 goblins have a 100% chance to crit me, after using invisibility to sneak past the party and sneak attack the wizard.
> Start of every combat fucking ever, the wizard gets dived through the entire party and sneak-attacked for 80% of his healthbar.

It's gotten so bad that nowadays I build my wizards with 16 Con, take Toughness, and be a half-elf that doubles up my preferred class bonus at +2 HP per level. I had more HP than the fucking barbarian, just level 1 goblins wouldn't 1-shot my wizard.

>>55177830
Isn't that literally a thing now? Matchmaker or something like that

So what's the consensus on the PsiAug line of books from DSP?

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>>55177873
I don't know, anon. Do you want to PM me to discuss it further?

>>55177943
S-sorry what? I was just talking about this?
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/m/matchmaker/

>>55177865
Sounds like you have a top tier GM anon you must be enjoying your game.

>>55177865
Half-elf doesn't double your FCB you illiterate plebian.

>>55178324
Considering his GM is bending the rules that much, he might have snuck it by him...

>>55178292
Fucking yea, the previous DM was a pussy that never did anything. Now we get boss encounters where 4/6 party members die every time, and it's a hectic as fuck fight from start to finish.

>>55178343
He bends the rules so much, I started incorporating the 3.5 spell list, and he still doesn't know.

>>55178324
Multitalented: Half-elves choose two favored classes at first level and gain +1 hit point or +1 skill point whenever they take a level in either one of those classes.

I have two favoured classes, BOTH are wizard. And for both FCBs, I'm choosing +1 HP.

>>55178357
>I have two favoured classes, BOTH are wizard. And for both FCBs, I'm choosing +1 HP.

That is absolutely not how that works.

>>55178394
Well you tell me how that works. Half-elves get two favoured classes, and nothing in the rules is stopping me from just setting both of those as Wizard.

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>>55178357
>I have two favoured classes, BOTH are wizard

>These posts
Your group is a match made in heaven

So a question: an NPC from the NPC codex, the God Stealer, has 17 levels of wizard, but 7 is enchanter and 10 conjurer. How? Multiclass into wizard with already existing wizard levels? Do wizards get to cut off their specialization at some point and take another?

>>55178407
>Multitalented: Half-elves choose two favored classes at first level and gain +1 hit point or +1 skill point whenever they take a level in either one of those classes.

You are correct you can have them be the same class.
However you still only get one or the other.
>gain +1 hit point or +1 skill point whenever they take a level in either one of those classes.

>>55178492
Probably not, maybe post the page or something so we can have a look.

>>55178435
I still don't see why I can't. And plus there's no FAQs against it, or really anything at all saying I can't. I'll take literally every bonus I can possibly get if it means my wizard doesn't die when he eats a crit from an invisible motherfucker for 40 damage at level 3.

>>55178517
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/npc-s/npc-19/god-stealer-elf-rogue-3-enchanter-7-conjurer-10/

Something I should've thought about before posting, I am made of stupid.

>>55177329
Also, what are some cool plot device things someone could do to bust one of the trapped ones out of their artifact? The thing that comes to mind is make each one just a quest to 'important place' in either the elemental plane associated with the lord trapped inside or the opposite one.

>>55178492
It's a typo. That's supposed to be Arcane Trickster 10.

>http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/npcCodex/prestige/arcaneTrickster.html

>>55178544
Mislabeled, its arcane trickster

>>55177943
I want to PM you!

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>>55178526
It is explicitly written to let you multiclass without losing out on getting a FCB, NOT to let you get two FCB per level

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>>55178544
The conjurerer link takes you to Arcane Theif
>>55178586
This, if you look in the actual PDF you see this

>>55178645
See, here's where we get a little odd. It's pretty obvious they intended that, but it's not what's written. It only further proves that half-elves are the true master race.

>>55178725
Actually that is what is written.
See
>>55178514

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>>55178725
>that's exactly how it's written
>"but that's not what's written"

This fucking guy, you know what it DOESN'T say? That you can get more than one FCB per level. You know why? Because there's things that do just that.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/racial-feats/fast-learner-human/

>>55178725
RAI > RAW
The fact that you have a GM who both allows that and also is playing in such a way that it makes it necessary means you should probably drop the group dude.

>>55178725
Multitalented: Half-elves choose two favored classes at first level and gain +1 hit point or +1 skill point whenever they take a level in either one of those classes.

Two favored classes means two separate classes. It would have to say two Favored Class bonuses to be as you mean it, you donse.

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So! Who all's excited for the weekend? Any big plans, game-related or otherwise?

>>55178849
Nothing major really. Getting to finish the first book of Kingmaker and continue with my borderline insane vigilante lady who is probably doing vigilantism due to mid-life crisis.

What kind of class/build is the best if I want to play a "Gundam"? Not literally but in the sense that they seem invincible to everything and hits hard too

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>>55178884

Did something in particular prompt her crisis?

>>55178924
Warder

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>>55178849
I'm going to fucking die to the murderDM this sunday, and probably roll up my 7th wizard this year. I think this time I'm going to go with "Godric Ragnisson", the dwarf wizard who reincarnated yet again as another race that can't grow a beard. Probably a tengu this time.

>>55178940
Why are you playing with a murder gm?

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>>55178940

How has your wizard perished so many times?

>>55178849
I'm gonna get some buddies together and we're gonna play some Doom deathmatch over the weekend. It's gonna be pretty rad.

>>55178930
Well her home town just crossed from being basically one big riot to martial law, she is forced to pay rent to live with her family by her family and her kids are growing up so fast that one has already set off to cross the continent and the other one spends her days riding fey horses in the skies. So plenty reasons for her to feel too old for this shit.

>>55178849
Game as usual. It'll probably be a slow game, but that's fine with me. I'm not feeling too hot.

How about you?

>>55178971
I bet it was food poisoning, that's how my wizard went. That, or suicidal depression, that's how my last wizard went.

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>>55178982

How are you all enjoying Doom's multiplayer?

>>55178953
Because my group rotates GMs every so often. Me and the murder GM have a custom setting, and we both have different styles.

>>55178971
We don't always kill off everyone, usually the party gets bored and switches to a different adventure for a time. Right now we're going through official adventure paths, in this case it's "Rise of The Runelords". The prevailing cause of death for my wizards is "Strangled to death". Or in the last case, he was specifically plucked out from the party and strangled to death by a lamia. His last words were, "Can you at least take me out to dinner first?"

>>55179052
Doom 94, the ORIGINAL one, running on Zandronum and using Doomseeker to organize a server. It's finicky but it's fast-paced, breakneck, and runs on potato computers.

>>55179062
>His last words were, "Can you at least take me out to dinner first?"
Why the fuck didn't she?

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>>55179113
Probably the charisma of 7? Plus he was a dwarf too, so probably wasn't her thing.

>>55178849
Pretty easy and chill weekend ahead. Just SotJR on my schedule.

>>55179150
That's sad :(

>>55178849
My necromancer left the party after a fight with the cleric where the two almost killed each other so now I'm going to be introducing my new character, Damon Noptereche, a whip wielding magus who has a silver longsword and silver chakrams, as well as a heavy crossbow, who is part of an organization that hunts vampires, werewolves, undead and evil wizards.

The fun part is that in the setting vampires and werewolves are seen as stuff of folklore, even zombies are incredibly uncommon since necromancy is extremely taboo and inherently evil. So I get to explain to the party that the things that go bump in the night are real.

>>55179062
>strangled by a Lamia

This seems to be somebody's magical realm there

>>55179161
>and then your Necro becomes the BBEG
this shit writes itself

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>>55179185
To be fair, the only magical realm for me is that they're usually drawn with pointy ears, same with *most* monstergirls. And I can't get it up for anything without pointy ears.

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>>55179017

I will be attending a hot-air balloon launch tomorrow morning-though I admit, the idea of getting up at five in the morning to drive into one of the busiest parts of town isn't exactly thrilling. Still, the misery will undoubtedly be lightened by the company, and it's not every day something like this happens.

Game-wise, the stakes have continued to raise, as we are now being stalked by otherworldly servitors of some long-forgotten being. So that's bound to result in excitement.

>>55179187
Lol yeah me and the DM have talked about him becoming a villain. He was serving a vampire but he didn't really know what he was, just that he was powerful. Ultimately, it became far too complicated playing an evil character so I'm pretty relieved

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>>55179151

Always nice to have one of those now and again. Any particular developments you're looking forward to?

>>55178564
Anyone?
Also I know the moaning diamond is detailed in the artifacts book, are the others talked about anywhere?

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>>55179161

I can see how your previous character ran into conflict with a party member, then. Tell me about your new character-what prompted him to join this organization?

>>55179243
Unless this cave system we're in ends up being massive, we should be learning about the Kaijitsu family legacy this session.

>>55179285
He comes from a noble and wealthy family whose ancestors were said to have hunted evil. Of course he never believed the stories until one day he heard stories of a necromancer raising the dead in a cave near his city. He had trained as a professional fighter and met a young witch who was also investigating the reports. So checked it out for himself. That's where he saw that it was real. That it wasn't just fairy tales. He vowed to stop these evil abominations any way he could. The witch happened to be a member of this organization and invited him to join.

He became a magus because he started to study the arcane in order to know his enemy. Fight fire with fire and get inside the mind of someone who would use it for evil. He also met a cute young paladin (virtuous bravo) in the organization named Anna Sabaltic. He fell in love with her. One day they were on a mission with other members and they were not prepared at all. Damon became cursed with the ashrot, and Anna became cursed with lycanthropy, they were he only two to survive that encounter.

>>55179398
>GF cursed with lycanthropism

I cant help but think this is a setup for a joke

>>55179447
Lol what kinda joke? She wants to be cured. We just need answers. We've tracked down some suspects to the city that the party is in now.

>>55179486
Something like..."My girl turns into an wild animal at night". That kind of stuff

Bad joke I know, couldnt resist

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>>55178849
I love you fennec anon!

I wanna play a beep but none of my friends are running any games and the /pfg/ games don't appeal to me

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>>55178940
Would your character look good in a virgin-killing sweater, /pfg/?

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>>55179562
Yes, but they'd look better in a qipao.

>>55179562
No, yes, yes, yes, no, no, no

>>55179562
Depends, does he have to wear it with the open part facing forward, or back?

>>55179562
She isn't voluptuous enough to really fill it out in the front, though she has a nice ass.

>>55179579
Fox-tits pls go.

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>>55179562
My current character is a half-elf wizard with a charisma of 7. She looks kinda attractive because she's part elf. But on the other hand she has actual autism, so it really negates the benefits.
> Autistic wizard shows up in a virgin-killer sweater
> Someone tries to flirt with her
> She immediately starts a rant with "COOL, I REALLY LIKE CONSTELLATIONS. DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT PHYSICS FOR THE NEXT EIGHT HOURS? "

>>55179562
>character is a Druid who has A Thousand Faces

Well, thats going to be easy

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>>55179632
I will stay.

>>55179633
>not wanting to talk about physics for the next 8 hours
I was born in the wrong time.

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>>55179544

Very kind of you to say.

Do you have any ideas for the character in mind, besides their race?

>>55179525
Well, at least it wasn't "it's that time of the month again".

>>55179664
Celestial pact avowed! Oh no, I've revealed myself! they seem really fun, and I can do lots of stuff with temporary hp!

>>55179562
>Character A has a nice ass, he could probably rock that sweater.
>Character B would probably stretch it out too much with his muscles.
>Character C could probably make it look good with his tail.

>>55179562
It'd show off her impressive back muscles to be sure

>>55179649
Unfortunate.

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>>55179738
Back muscles are nice.

>>55179562
>he's a goddamn beanpole, it'll look ridiculous,
>supposedly he has a nice ass so maybe?
>she's got no style, she's got no grace, this girl looks like a goddamn -holy shit is she crying about it?
>shit man, dude's ripped as fuck, it's not my thing but I won't judge you
>You... You put that sweater on a cat. What is wrong with you?

So this is how Pathfinder ends... Not with a bang, but with a whimper.

Gentleman, it has been a privilege playing with you all these years.

>>55180791
Fuck are you on about, you melodramatic bitch?

>>55180437
I wanna bully all of them.

What's your favorite class, /pfg/?

>>55180810
>Fuck are you on about

In case you haven't been paying attention, the thread's been dead for weeks now - and not the kind of dead that we used to have where people just weren't posting all too often, the kind of dead where even when they do, we get vapid bullshit about "celebrities" or "cuteposting" that sometimes get downright nasty.

The thread's dead, the system's dying, and most people seem to recognize it but you.

>>55180886
You're retarded

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>>55180886
Nigga there's nothing to talk about. We discuss new books into the ground the day they get leaked and twiddle our thumbs the rest of the time. Almost everyone interested already has games, and posting about them just turns the thread into a salt mine so they stopped talking about them.

>>55180857
Probably most of the Occult classes except for the Psychic. And even then, the Psychic at least has some different class features, and Phrenic Amplifications has some room for fun additions.

The whole bundle of Occult classes feels like you can make a decent, functional party just by picking four of them and dropping them into an adventure. Most of the party configurations could reasonably get through an AP (i.e a party consisting of a Medium, a Kineticist, a Spiritualist, and a Mesmerist could probably get through Rise of the Runelords or Curse of the Crimson Throne).

>>55180886
>the system's dying
>if I just state things hard enough they'll come true!

why is that the default argument these days? I guess it's people taking after Daddy Dump

>>55180925
>Daddy Dump
What's Casimir got to do with this?

If the thread is slow we can always just do a Creature Roulette. If anyone wants to participate just roll me up a d11.

>>55180857
Psion

So, I saw a thing for a setting the other day, and decided to write a bit.

>”Historically, a number of peoples inhabited what would become modern-day Ecladeaux, with new tribes appearing quite frequently. However, these ancient settlers just as often came to a sudden and vicious end, for as long as humans have occupied the northern continent, the moraig have menaced them. Antiquarians have discovered the ruins of many villages struck by these hulking raiders, and more than a few ancient carvings depict the destruction they would visit upon those unfortunate enough to lay in their path.”

>”Though they are often described as a single people in surviving records, the moraig exhibit considerable diversity in their otherwise humanoid physical appearance. Some varieties stand at a 'mere' three meters, while individuals in excess of seven have been (rarely) reported-however, a height of between four and five meters is the most common, with limbs that often appear too large or too small for their bodies. Males are known to possess horns on their head, similar in appearance to a wild goat's, but the horns of cattle and even rhinoceroses are not unheard of. Their thick, pebbly skin ranges in color from deep yellow to a pale red, though they are prone to painting themselves in other hues, with shaggy patches of black or gray hair helping to armor their fatty hides against the cold.”

>”Most notable regarding the appearance of the moraig is the large, singular eye, sitting beneath their brows. Despite the impressive variance in their forms, the yellow-irised, bloodshot eye is unmistakable to any who have encountered them previously. This mono-eye lies at the center of many of the race's beliefs and myths, and represents the epitome of all things moraig in their society. Rumors persist of rare individuals capable of killing with a glare, but this has never been confirmed by research.”

(1/3)

>”Though many consider the moraig mere beasts, the rare glimpses into their lives gained by brave scholars paint them in a very different light. When not engaged in raiding in their distinctive hide boats, these giants live in simple villages near to the waterside-they have been seen hunting, fishing, whaling, and growing crops in a manner not dissimilar to the ancient tribes themselves. Moraig communities are presided over by a chieftain-often a popular war leader or raid captain-with succession frequently passed to a brother or cousin, though a chieftain may be challenged for his position if he is deemed inept or unlucky. Moraig communities often have at least one priest who conducts various rituals to invite good fortune, and frequently acts as adviser to the chieftain. Tribes may fight each other for food or riches, but they just as frequently meet to trade crafts, supplies, or looted treasures.”

>”Despite their many similarities to the ancient peoples of Ecladeaux, the moraig have maintained their antagonistic attitude towards humanity even into the modern age. The origin of this long-standing enmity lies in the moraig creation myth: according to their belief, the moraig are the perfect creations of three gods, Fib, Fa, and Furm. Upon completing the moraig, the god Fib blessed the race by granting them his one eye, so they might see the wonders of the world. However, a number of small, misshapen creatures grew envious of the blessing, and stole the eyes of both Fa and Furm as they slept, affixing the two organs to their own ugly faces. As humans apparently fit the myth's description of 'small, misshapen creatures with two eyes', the moraig thus consider them to be innately despicable and untrustworthy, and thus take great pleasure in slaying them and plundering their works.”

(2/3)

>>55180857
I feel like saying Vigilante is cheating, given how it can be whatever you want it to be

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>>55180886

>”Unfortunately for the moraig, the advent of the Luminerium heralded the end of their time in Ecladeaux. Though they continued to raid outlying villages, their ability to mount direct assaults on human settlements weakened considerably with the establishment of the Royal Military, and battles between moraig tribes and the Royal Legions ended in the latter's favor with increasing frequency. Chiozespierre the Rising, upon assuming the throne, famously decreed that he would not stomach the presence of foes on land that rightfully belonged to the Luminerium, and sent his soldiers from Aurore to conquer the entire northern continent in the Solar King's name.”

>”With unyielding determination, the Legions drove the moraig from their homes and hunting grounds, pursuing survivors across the frozen land with the patience of stone and the crushing force of an avalanche. In a final act of defiance, the remaining moraig tribes formed a confederation with the explicit goal of crushing the humans in a surprise assault from the southeastern edge of the continent-however, the Battle of the Floes ended in a Legion victory, with no fewer than seven moraig chieftains slain, and what remained of the tribes were forced to flee across the seas.”

>”Though the moraig have attempted to enter Ecladeaux several times since then, they have been repulsed each time by Luminerium forces, and Chiozespierre's decree remains unbroken, leaving the moraig little choice but to eke out a living on the northernmost corners of the eastern continent-far from the light of the Villalize, and all too close to the Twisted Wastes. To many in Ecladeaux, the moraig are simply a name in the histories, a barbaric foe vanquished by the light of civilization, never to be feared again.”

(3/3)

>>55180857
Paladin, Barbarian a close second.

>>55180886
PF is a "solved" game basically, so there's nothing really worth discussing that would warrant the existence of these threads. Naturally it lends itself to celeb shit.

>>55171200
Alright pfg, I've got a one shot coming up where I have to play a 17th level character, but am finding it difficult to stay motivated/interested in the game/character.
Suggestions for something interesting to build would be greatly appreciated.
PoW/SoP allowed.

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>>55180857
Druid.
I love the versatility

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>>55180857
I like sorcerers. I like how the 2+int spells and low incentive to actually raise it makes for a really interesting character to roleplay.

You have this guy who has a measure of power similar to the most intelligent people in the setting and there is a pretty good chance that they'd be packing 8-12 int. How did they get this power? Half the time there would be a really mysterious reason but on some rare occasion its by sheer dumb luck. So you can have some random farmboy whose sole educational attainment is being able to read and do basic sums suddenly develop power beyond his imaginings and get thrust into grand adventure and if he lives long enough, has the potential for reality bending magic.

Now, said idiot only has pathetic intelligence, but party still needs to know things right? So you pair him up with a sage familiar, and suddenly the impressionable little oik has a scorpion sitting on his shoulder telling him what to do and occasionally pinching him when he completely misunderstands the simplest of instructions.

And the best part is there is so much potential coming from this ignorant simpleton. Maybe he learns the spiderman lesson and becomes responsible with said power, or maybe he gets pushed around so hard and falls in with the wrong people and becomes utterly unconvinced that he should show any restraint when using this power.

I bullied a catfolk vigilante, AMA.

>>55181233
Catfolk are not for bully

>>55181233
How hard did you grab that pussy?

>>55181241
They are for bully, you fag.

>>55181247
I scratched the trap prostitute catfolk behind the ears, then called him cute. I'd say he got grabbed pretty hard

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>>55181241

Well, so long you make up afterwards, it might be okay.

>>55171200
How do you challenge a well-optimized group, /pfg/? I'm not sure I can really handle the current lineup in my own campaign, solid as it is, without turning things into rocket tag.

Do I just add maneuvers onto monsters? A counter here, a strike there, maybe a stance if I'm feeling fancy?

>>55181308

What does your current lineup look like?

>>55181399
A witch, two full initiators, a soulknife, and an initiating inquisitor.

>>55181415

In that case, yeah-definitely start kitting out bad guys with some maneuvers.

>>55181273
I want more cat yuri...

>>55181145
If the PoW errata is in play, it's a great time to build a spear dancer. The other day people were talking about using a Piercing Thunder/Elemental Flux discipline build to emulate Dragonslayer Orenstein, that could be fun.

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>>55181476

>>55181048
Was all of that for the /pgg/ setting?

>>55181781
Yeah, there was a bit about cyclopean giants, and I thought I might do something with that.

>>55181804
If you have the maps, post them here to inspire the people here.

I did like the story, especially about why they hate the two-eyed races

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>>55179544
>I wanna play a beep
What is a beep and what is it from?

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>>55181864
Sure thing.

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>>55181864

>>55181881
Bimbo...sheep?

>>55181881

It's a sheep, anon. It's a reference to the song by Todd Bryanton, a.k.a. "LilDeuceDeuce".

https://youtu.be/CZlfbep2LdU

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>>55181308
Challenge them with social encounters.

Watch hardened warriors sweat bullets as their enemies outmaneuver them politically.

>>55181907
>>55181888
Cool. I have a free day tomorrow, so I'll write something to ride out the heatwave

>>55181308
Enemies that will get back up, stuff like bloody skeletons,but harder to permanently kill.
Make killing them be a puzzle or challenge where they need to think outside the box.

>>55178818
I mean considering his posts, he should probably stay and only play with that group forever.

>>55181988

I've tossed everything I could find into a pastebin. Feel free to take a gander.

https://pastebin.com/FBHceacs

>>55181915
I'm very okay with bimbo sheep.

>>55178725
It says pick two favored classes.

Wizard and wizard is not two classes, that's one class.

>>55180857
Paladin

>>55182343
Cool work. Let's see if we can add more to it over the weekend

>>55182606
I'm reminded of the gnome who applied to Overlewd.

If I make a .jpeg Pact Avowed, can they safely use objects created by Screencap, or are they themselves also affected by the attunement effect?

>>55182930
Unless it says that only "enemies" are affected or that you're explicitly immune, you're not immune to your own effects.

>>55182949
That's what I thought, but it's kind of weird because it explicitly adds extra negative effects to using duplicated magic items later. I couldn't quite tell if it was supposed to only apply to enemies or if it was meant to be a risk-reward thing.

>>55180857

I switch between Bard and Inquisitor.

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>When you realize that PoW is more complicated than it looks and you need to future proof your maneuver progression really far ahead.

Whelp, time to embarrass myself by begging the GM for a retrain.

>>55184837
The trades every two levels help, but yeah, trying to main more than three disciplines with little overlap is a puzzle.

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>>55184948
I managed to future proof it to 9th level maneuvers which I hopefully understand properly.

Pic related is how the gm probably feels after the second fuck up.

>>55184837
What do you mean? I've never played with POW, so I'm curious what happened.

>>55185761
Basically you start with like 6 maneuvers at level 1 and gain 1 maneuver at 2nd level and every odd numbered level afterwards. You can also swap maneuvers at every even numbered level.

As you progress in Maneuver levels (something similar to spell levels for vancian casters) prerequisites start popping up which requires you to know X number of maneuvers from that discipline (equivalent to spell schools). So if you don't plan on taking advanced study for extra maneuvers known, you are going to need to follow a pretty strict progression plan to ensure you get what you need at the later levels.

Think of it this way, if a sorcerer needed to know 2 conjuration spells to learn a 5th level conjuration spell his life would be pretty hellish too.

>>55179213
They have a nice family together, and live happily ever after.

>>55179284
The opal is mentioned in the Planes of Power book, I believe, but the other two are not.

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>>55179703
Tails are a problem.

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>>55186007
Hushabye a bae. Currently using her pheonix as my Aasimar.

>>55186007
>>55186053
they're both so adorable! post moar

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>>55186182
I can't post the pheonix because it's likely considered NSFW. It's not really drawn in a sexual way, but I'd rather not get banned. Have a grumpy octopus instead.

>>55186182
The entire set is here:
>>>/u/2373491

If Wanted to play a character who fought like a bloodborne Hunter (including the melee onhand/ranged offhand bit), what is the best way to go about it? Privateer Stalker?

>>55187086
Inquisitor or alchemist/investigator are probably your best options to be honest.

>>55187086
>(including the melee onhand/ranged offhand bit)
that's silly memery, but picaroon, but as for classes >>55187247 those best represent the gameplay.

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Alright, so, guys, I'm sorry, but I don't want to start a new thread just for this simple question, but there's no 3.5e thread. Just ignore me if this upsets you for whatever reason.

I'm currently playing in a 3.5e game, and although I've been around D&D 3.5e/PF a long time, I've never actually played before. My DM is actually very, very experienced in it, but he just said something that was just.. odd. And I'm wondering if I'm the one that's crazy or not.

Basically, I'm playing an Aasimar, with +1 LA, and I just became level 2, which means I have an ECL of 3. I say that everyone gets a feat, beside me, and I tell the others (who are all complete noobs in basically all roleplaying).

And the DM tells me that no, I get a feat too, because my ECL is 3, and you get a feat at level 3.

Am.. am I crazy here? I realize I'm arguing my way out of an early feat, and with LA Buyoff, this won't matter much, especially since he's drastically increased experience gain for lvls 1-5. But fuck, I'm SURE that this can't be right.

1. Am I the insane one here? Am I wrong?
2. If I'm not the insane one, where is this shit clarified? Where do I point and say "Hah! I don't actually get a feat for another 3000 experience! So there!"?

>>55187705

I found this:

>Feat Acquisition and Ability Score Increases: A monster’s total Hit Dice, not its ECL, govern its acquisition of feats and ability score increases.

>>55187812
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monstersAsRaces.htm#featAcquisitionandAbilityScoreIncreases

That's in the SRD, and that's fine if they're using that. I'm looking at the DMG myself but can't find that same line yet, though it definitely feels implied.

>>55187856

Maybe in the Monster Manual? I think it has a few lines about Level Adjustment.

What is Taldor's tax policy?

>>55187875
Yup, just checked the Monster Manual and that exact line is there, page 291.

>>55187962
Yup, there it is near the top of the page, under "Feat Acquisition and Ability Score increases."

>>55187705
There you go anon, p. 291 of the monster manual, or in that SRD link above.

>>55187883

If you're one of the Unbearded, you can either pay them, or you can be publicly beaten by the local lord's goons.

Lame anime thread when?

New thread:

>>55188323
>>55188323

>>55188145
When you make it, then make a second thread claiming to be the true thread, fostering argument and divisiveness.

>>55187812
>>55187856
>>55187875
>>55187962
>>55188004
Thanks a lot, guys. I didn't know where it was from, I was just so really fucking sure that that is how it worked, but having never actually sat down and read through everything page by page or actually played before, I was at a loss for words.

>>55185991
The Opal has been opened.

>>55179562
>Character 1 - AHAHAHAHA I'd like to see it.
>Character 2 - Tiny little stringbean of a man, so it'd pretty much fall off.
>Character 3 - Too tall. It wouldn't fit right, would just look awkward, and would make her incredibly uncomfortable.
>Character 4 - Would literally rather die, but could pull it off if she took off the bindings.

>>55176133
>butt-knives

the fuck.

>>55188380
Samefag here. He still does not believe me. I don't know what to do. He says Feats/Ability bonuses are based on Experience, not Class Level, and that http://www.d20srd.org/srd/xp.htm refers to Effective Character Level, not Class Level.

Halp.