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First for the DAWI. Take back the HOLDS LADS

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I might be mistaken, but it seems that Saurus Scar-veteran on Carnosaur works better as a unit-supporting general than Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur. He is also 40pts cheaper. Am I wrong? Did I miss any Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur secret potential?

Allegiance: Seraphon

Leaders
Saurus Scar-Veteran on Carnosaur (240)
- General
- War Spear
- Trait: Mighty War Leader
- Artefact: Coronal Shield
Skink Starpriest (80)

Battleline
20 x Saurus Warriors (200)
- Spears
5 x Saurus Knights (100)
- Lances
- Seraphon Battleline
5 x Saurus Knights (100)
- Lances
- Seraphon Battleline
5 x Saurus Knights (100)
- Lances
- Seraphon Battleline

Behemoths
Troglodon (180)

Total: 1000/1000

Also if my army has both ORDER and SERAPHON allegiance, can I mix the allegiance abilities or I have to stick with only one set of abilities? Defiant Avengers seems to be a great battle trait but I prefer Seraphon command traits and artefacts

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>>55185617
Well said brother!!

What faction do you guys think improved the most with GHB17?

Personally I think that Fyreslayers have evolved from a trash fire faction without any defining features to a fairly good contender against most other factions.

>>55185625
>can I mix the allegiance abilities

Literally read the book.

>>55185625
You run a list a lot like a friend of mine does; we took a look at it and concluded the Scar-Vet is probably the better choice than the Oldblood too. Defiant Avenger is good, but it's nearly pointless with Seraphon given how you all have Bravery 10 - you have to stick with just one set, and Seraphon Allegiance is far better suited to you.

>>55185651
I for one welcome my 8 inch strutting dorfs

>>55185651
They just need some more units desu

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>about to begin painting my first miniatures
>never really painted prior to now

help.

I've watched the videos on how to paint my particular units, but fuck me, I doubt it'll look anything like Duncan's.

>>55185656
I have read Anon, but even after GHB17 release some anon claimed that you can mix them. Hell, there is even a guy at my lgs that wants to mix abilities on his list. I just wanted to be sure desu

>>55185665
Okay, thank you
>You run a list a lot like a friend of mine does
Any conclusions or comments? I know it's a super vanilla list - just two SC boxes put together but is it okay to run?

>>55185706
Thin your paints. No, really - don't be afraid to thin them much. You can always just put a second or thrid coat and that's fine
> I doubt it'll look anything like Duncan's
Mate, even Duncan started as shitty painter. Be patient, wait until your paints dry before applying another coat and wash your brushes as often as possible.
What are you painting?

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>>55185706

Ahhh, yes, I'm in your very same situation.

I'm just waiting on some brushes and I'm good to go, got 8 Liberators and 3 Prosecutors ready to paint.

Basically the only protip I got so far, multiple times, is:

REMEMBER TO FUCKING THIN YOUR PAINTS WITH A TOUCH OF WATER, YOU FAGGOT

Interested in rolling soulblight with the new allegiance abilities:

1x Vamp Lord on Zombie Dragon (440)
- Deathlance, Dragon warrior bloodline and mist form ability for charge bonus every turn
- scabbing plate for healing

1x Vamp Lord (140)

Battleline:

2x5 Blood Knights (260)

1x3 Vargheists(160)

Allies:
1x Mourngul (400)

Reserve: 340 pts, enough for a unit of spirit hosts and morghasts (can bring whichever flavor is needed).

Total 2000/2000

Thoughts?

Anyone have the nurgle rules from blightwar?

>>55185706
This anon is 1200% true. Yes 1200%. You start out shitty and work your way up. Kust keep you paints thinned and take your time. If it takes 3 days to do model on your first go then it takes 3 days. You'll get better and faster. Like the million dollar man except you're spending money on plastic

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>>55185736
SCE are idiot-proof to paint. Pic related is my first painted model ever and I used only citadel basic brush and citadel starter brush. Citadel metalic paints are super easy to use so don't worry

>>55185735
Painting the dryads in the Sylvaneth start collecting box.
Got the first layer of Dryad bark on, but it looks really runny. It may be possible I thinned -too- much? It just seems a bit too water, thought the color is working.

>>55185736
COPY SIR

>>55185768
Thanks for the encouragment anon. I'm working my way through the dryads and branchwych, probably over the course of a few weeks, before going for the big Durthu.

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>>55185746

>>55185735
>Any conclusions or comments?

The Carnosaur will be doing a lot of the work, pretty much everything else is just tarpits to keep enemies in place until he can reach them. The Starpriest does work in my experience, but I've most commonly seen him used against Khorne Daemons where Summon Starlight is absolutely brutal so I'm likely biased. Saurus Knights don't do as much damage as you'd think, but the fact they and warriors ignore -1 Rend makes them tanker than you'd expect. Don't forget to teleport either - it's nor worth basing a whole strategy on, but it has its moments, either for contesting objectives and denying less mobile enemies VPs early on or getting a character you need to protect well out of the way.

Newb painter here-- it seems like some of the paint is, for lack of a better word, disappearing, from the model. Like, gray that was painted over brown becomes gray again, like the paint is flowing away. There's no pooling at the feet of the model, so I'm not sure what's going on.

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>>55185746
Don't expect too much, it's not a very good battallion.

>>55185801
> It may be possible I thinned -too- much? It just seems a bit too water, thought the color is working
Then apply another layer and the third one if needed. Don't worry about this Anon - you have plenty of dryads and you will probably buy another start collecting for 1000pts army. Use dryads to practice so you can paint your tree lord properly

>>55185809
No artifacts I suppose

>>55185840
Taking a massive regiment of Plaguebearers that can regrow and re-roll hits of 1 so long as they bubble wrap le funny slug man doesn't seem too bad. It'll probably be cripplingly overcosted, though.

>>55185839
>Like, gray that was painted over brown becomes gray again

Stop touching it before it dries.

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>>55185862
Not to my knowledge.

>>55185863
A massive regiment of Plaguebearers still only has 1" weapons and no way to improve their pile-in. Even rerolling 1s to hit and save (Locus) as well as regrowing d3 models a turn won't make them do anymore than be a medium tarpit.

>>55185839

... did you prime the model first?

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>>55185819
>The Carnosaur will be doing a lot of the work, pretty much everything else is just tarpits to keep enemies in place until he can reach them
I will change his artifact for the more killy one then
>Saurus Knights don't do as much damage as you'd think, but the fact they and warriors ignore -1 Rend makes them tanker than you'd expect
I'm okay with this. As long as they are not totally useless I don't find them to be a waste of points. I will probably drop them for guards one day but now they should work as a good list filler.
Have you seen a troglodon in action? I'm not sure if I should use this magnificent bastard or maybe oldblood on foot is a better pick

>>55185914
Nope. Is that the chaos black spray?

>>55186018
Yeah. You HAVE TO use primer before applying any other paint mate.

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Tzeentch warscroll cards are up for pre-orders. Was there an announcement? Maybe we will see more cards soon I hope

>>55186017
The shield isn't a terrible artefact, but I'd definitely take a different trait - Inspiring presence isn't something you need nearly as much as other armies do. Thick-Scaled Hide is probably the best, since the re-roll Disciplined Fury gives can't be used with the Carnosaur's attacks. Don't forget Bloodroar either against armies vulnerable to Battleshock.

Your idea of swapping Knights for guard is a good one. If nothing else they're relatively nimble, letting you teleport more important things.

The Troglodon is a unit I've not seen, but I think it's probably more useful than an Oldblood at 1k. It'll distract fire from your Carnosaur more effectively, and you can always use it to hunt down straggler units if the Carnosaur has to 'port away and deal with something bigger.

>>55186107
>Buy KO cards
>Gw changes the warscroll 4 months later

>>55186122
Shut the fuck up nerd
buy new warscrolls and models
shut the fuck up some more

What, you thought this was Nu GW?

>>55186122
Didn't they change just a one warscroll? I mean that sucks but with new edition every single warscroll could be changed tho

>>55185594
Oh is it out? Anyone read it?

>>55185594
>Games Workshop's Warhammer™: Age of Sigmar™: Eight Lamentations™ Part 1: Spear of Shadows™

This needs to stop

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>>55186361
>mfw a commie is still salty about trademarks and industrial property

>>55186417
You assume a lot about someone from shitposts young one

>>55185840
>Horticulous slimux
Exactly who the fuck is this meant to be appealing to? I'd have thought that was stupid when I was ten.

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>>55186439
You are an idiot shitposting in toy soldiers thread so my assumption is that you are an shitposting idiot. It's not far from being a shitposting polishcuck commie so I know a lot about you, stormraped one- just from your shitposting

>>55186482
Nurgle players.

Can anybody that has Blightwar post the page that contains most information about Nurgle?

Also I need someone with the Grand Alliance of Order book to tell me something about the page numbers and the sylvaneth lore section.

>>55186519
What are you even saying kek

>>55186519
>idiot shitposting
>shitposting idiot.
>shitposting polishcuck commie
>stormraped one

You sure you're not the salty one?

>>55185839
Look into coloured primers anon, it'll save you time, money and arseache. Don't bother about GW's spray because you can acheive the same effect much cheaper. Almost all models can be reduced to one median tone that you then just pick out the highlights.

>>55186647
Can you be a shitposter and don't be an idiot? I don't think so

>>55185594
Does this book do the bait and switch? Put interesting things on the cover but inside it's all about Stormcasts?

>>55186788
While we can't promise SCE won't be in it, the focus of the story is Grungni sending some adventurers on a quest, and none of those adventures are SCE

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Okay, so, I've got the Dryad Bark> Baneblade Brown >Agrax Earthshade on my first dryad. How is it so far for a first one?

I'm too the point of the drybrushing step, but instead of a light color I was thinking of using Caliban Green or Russ Grey to get a sort of mossy highlight. Bad idea?

Rate my list /tg/ - haven't got artefacts or spells completely figured out yet. I also have the option of going Ogroid instead of Lord which may make the change host list easier to make come 2000 pts. Open to suggestions

Allegiance: Tzeentch
Tzaangor Shaman (160)
Chaos Sorcerer Lord On Manticore (200)
- Mark of Chaos: Tzeentch
- Lore of Fate: Bolt of Tzeentch
10 x Pink Horrors Of Tzeentch (120)
10 x Pink Horrors Of Tzeentch (120)
3 x Tzaangor Skyfires (200)
3 x Tzaangor Skyfires (200)

Total: 1000/1000

So which is better;

Runefather on Mag or a Runefather on foot?

I got the start collecting and the Runefather has a "Look out sir" rule that seems handy, but he's also pretty good in a fistfight.

>>55186969
It looks fine but you should also paint the leaves

>>55186969
put the mini on a surface, put a solid backdrop behind it, and brace your camera before you take the picture next time. Patchy drybrushing of green and maybe gluing some flock over that could be a cool effect, I think the important thing there would be to not go overboard with it.

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>>55186969
I think I goofed.

>>55187305
Anon, I don't think you know what drybrushing is

>>55187072
If you only have one I'd recommend the Runefather on foot to start out with. He's the best general you've got. He loves to chill with a solid unit of Hearthguard Berzerkers.
The Runefather on Magmadroth is more of a direct beatstick. I run that one with two Runesons on Magmadroth as linebreaker cavalry.

>>55187324
It's getting the paint on the brash, dabbing it on some rag to get most of the paint off, then scratching the surface with the brush, right?

I think I get the concept, I just really came up short when applying it. And by short, I mean like, I forgot the entire concept while applying it.

Is it bad practice just to paint over this and start from the start?

>>55186417
>industrial property
>IP

what does he mean by this

>>55187351
Anon, there should be maybe 1% of the paint you started with still on the brush BEFORE you start to dry brush.

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Got a box of Forsaken, but considering they're legacy units I fear they're not going to survive another update. What do I with them? Convert them to be a tad bigger and use them as Chaos Spawn?

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Skavenfags report in. Everyone get here fast-quick

>>55187328
How are Wyrmslayer Javalins on those Runesons?

Useless or handy to add some ranged firepower?

I have two start collecting boxes plus additional Vulkite Berserkers, so I am thinking of running a Warrior Kinband.

>>55187446
You could just use them as Chaos Warriors instead. Get more bang for your buck and can use all of them. Or Chosen even.

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>>55187496
Aye

>>55187446
Throw like 3-4 on round bases and count them ass spawn.

Throw 5 on a bigger base and count as Khorgorath

>>55187519
I play a Khorne army and use Blood Warriors as the basis for my Chaos Warriors (converted them with shields and halberds). I do like the idea of Chosen, maybe that could work.

>>55187527
This could work as well.

>>55185801
did you prime them?

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>>55187526
>>55187496
What do we do following the loss of the Clawpacks? is Verminus as a mainline viable?

Does Rat Ogre battleline offset the loss of Skweel and Throt?

Which weapon team will you be allying in?

Grey seer versus Engineer

Discuss

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>>55187619
>is Verminus as a mainline viable
No way. Clanrats without LoW and CoC support are just board spam - nothing more
>Does Rat Ogre battleline offset the loss of Skweel and Throt
I don't think so. Maybe if GW will release a SoD Ogres kit separately but right now moulder has nice plastic models available only in one two-player box. Right now building a mono-moulder is just to hard logistic-wise
>Which weapon team will you be allying in?
Flamethrower teams are amazing. I love the way they are killing enemy heroes. Mortarsare fine too but they are more situational
>Grey seer versus Engineer
Well, fuck. Since my mixed-skaven army is fuckin dead I have to pick engineer. I love this model and I'm using one as my skirmish warband general but I don't really want to play mono-skryre - I would rather start a brand new non-skaven army

>>55187511
On a mounted Runeson the javelin is kinda wasted, you want the guy in melee, where the axe is just plain better.
On foot it's still not amazing, but with access to the Meteoric Axe relic there's a potential ranged build that's not half bad at supporting armies from behind.
Warrior Kinband is very solid at fixing the most glaring issues of the Vulkites, i.e. their shitty weapon range despite being a horde unit. With double the throws they can contribute quite well from outside melee range and the improved pile-in range gets more guys in there. It's not a bad idea to have a ranged Runeson trailing along behind those Vulkite gangs, too.

>>55187619
What this anon >>55187709 said is true imo. However I don't consider the mortar fine since they don't do a lot in a game. Flamethrowers are good & ratling are very nice when they get closer.

ArchWarlock for the win, great spell, Double cast & a nice 3+ save to help him survive. Grey seer casting one spell per turn is heresy so i don't play him anymore even if I love the mini.

>>55185594
>Lmao it's about legendary weapons made by Khorne's blacksmiths
>Instead of maybe using the god damn Chaos Dwarfs
>Nope, gotta throw that faggot Khorne in there
>Now it's just gonna be nothing but "Heros do thing until Khorn warriors show up."

I want all the authors at BL to literally be whipped with a flail until they realize there are other things besides fucking Khorne and Sigmarines.

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Am I the only one who feels the Unforged rules are quite ok but he should have a special rule for doing 1d3 damage against monsters or something similar?

Just damage 1, 2 against Chaos, feels kinda wrong with what a Slayer is supposed to be now

>>55187922
I can't read Taco

>>55187789
I have a player slayer model.

I might just give him the Havlins for a dynamic as fuck dude.

Runefather on foot.

Two Smiters

Two runesons on Mags

One runeson on foot with Javs and Meteoric

Three vulkites

Sounds like a pretty reasonable army now.

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>>55187922
>realises he just posted it in Spanish

fuck's sake

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>>55187922
Ok, here it is in english, sorry

>>55187897
Fuck you bitch, Khorne has always made the best magic weapons.

>>55187922
He's more of a unit eraser than a monster-buster - which kinda fits, given how their bacjground got changed.
And against 1-wound chaos troops he's total murder.

How is this for a starting 1000 point army? Just spitballing here.

>Spirit of Durthu
>Dryad
>Kurnoth Hunters x3, Greatbow
>Kurnoth Hunters x3, Greatsword
>Scenery: Sylvaneth Wyldwood

In a perfect world, the idea would be to great a blockage with the dryads, using thicket. Have the sword kurnoth on either flank, the greatbows in the back.

Y/N?

>>55187936
>a player slayer
I want a player slayer too.

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>>55187922
Actually full englsih here

I feel like I've just been trolling myself at this point

>>55188009
>And against 1-wound chaos troops he's total murder.

Yeah well that's true

A little bit situational but still pretty strong

>>55187982
>LMAO AND THIS AXE HAS TEETH
>LMAO, THIS SWORD HAS TEETH
>LMAO, THIS AXE-SWORD HAS TEETH!

It's only ever as good as the wielder. Khorne's weapons are always obnoxious in their visual design and have stupid names. Spear of Shadows? That should have been a Dark Elf forged weapon and it would have been awesome.

>>55188021
I meant plastic, but now I may need to model a pimp hat on him.

>>55188044
>Some shitty elf weapon
>Better than a weapon forged by the ultimate god of war

zoz.

>>55187922
His lore has changed.

He is no longer an outcast who shamed his clan and is seeking a glorious death to redeem himself, he is a dwarf that went crazy during the age of chaos. Seeing the attrocities of chaos, he dedicates his life to see out and destroy chaos, even to the point of sacrificing his own life to it.

>>55188020
You need 1 more battle line unit.
Durthu is 400
Kurnoth hunters are 220 (440 total)
10 dryads is 100 points.

>>55188044
Why would a Dark Elf spear interest the fucking Dwarven Smith-god?

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>>55188091
Dind't know that

Well, with that lore I guess his rules are just fine

I still miss old slayers though

>>55188099
So, would you sacrifice the greatbow kurnoth, or the greatsword, for another dryad?

>>55188119
I don't know. That's why it would be actually interesting instead of fucking boring vanilla Khorne.

Do you get allegiance abilities in PtG?

>>55186482
outside of the ridiculous name id say weebs - the berserk-esque slug and the "nothin personnel" resting-toughguy toshiro-mifune chewing on a blade of grass with his sword slung over his shoulder pose

>>55188178
>It would be interesting because it doesn't make sense

You're a dumb cuck.

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>>55185706
The best advice I can possibly give you isn't just to thin your paints. It's that you haven't thinned them enough. No, more. More. Twice as thin as that. Do it again. Can you see through them yet? Then keep thinning.

As for looking like the pros- no, you won't, but you'll be a damn site more prepared than they were to start with. Image related, and it's not a joke.

>>55185744
There seems to be an unofficial 'do not reply to Soulblight posters' rule going on here, but good luck, man.

>>55188493

no npc races, no legacy races, stormcast/khorne only

>>55185744
Looks ok but you seem pretty undermanned. The Zombie dragon looks pretty impressive but I would say vs heavy infantry or mass light infantry your army may find some serious issues.

I would suggest replace the Vamp lord on Zombie Dragon for more infantry as since AoS has a lot of objective based stuff which is bolstered by more numerous infantry, I think your points would be better invested in that than going Hero Hammer.

>>55188493
We don't want to give bad advice, and no one plays them so

>>55185706
Duncan's vids teach the basic GW way of base, wash, base, highlight. There are more advanced painting methods that you'll get into later, but it's a solid foundation to learn.
Thin your paints, work in layers, and wash your brush off every three or four times you put paint on it so it doesn't dry on the brush and fuck the bristles up.
Also remember that these dudes are meant to be looked at arm's length on a table not with your eyeball 3mm from it, don't sweat minor mistakes, you can always touch them up or redo them, and working in layers softens the impact of fuckups as well.

>>55188606
Ooh, someone replying to Soulblight questions! Here's one: On average, what's the better VLoZD weapon, lance or sword?

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Okay, so I went back to the drawing board on color schemes.

Couldn't get a good shot outside of this, my cell camera sucks.

This is before drybrushing.

Went with Dryad Bark> Sortek Green > Drakenhoff Nightshade > Russ Grey for the highlight/drybrush in the next picture

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>>55188756
And after drybrushing. What should I do with this guy next? Any feedback is helpful. Still trying to figure out if I dry brushed it correctly.

>>55188718
That I don't know. I only have my reference based on infantry, In infantry, spears are considered better because of their range advantage but that's mostly to do with ranks and people getting in the way. I would suggest look at the attacks, hit and wound probabilities and rend/damage.

If you want more killyness then go for that one but normally, just from my GA Chaos book, the swords tend to be good for heroes.

Also we do answer questions if we can just AoS has a few trolls lurking about as of late. Normally if you don't get an answer is because people either don't know or its downtime. What helps is posting an image of your faction with your query, cause at least then people will read it.

>>55188756
Well, I would stick with one color palette. Maybe try with different shades of brown for the start to learn how to mix colours etc?

>>55188767
It looks nice but not sure if you purposelly made it look like it was dead wood. Perhaps mix some colours on the loin cloth at the botton and maybe put some contrast colour on the eyes, green or red. The paint is there but it looks a little too regimental and dry in its scheme. That said if that's what you're going for, sure its grand.

>>55188767
Put another layer of drybrushing on, but be a lot softer as you do it so it's like a highlight drybrush in a way. Have the color be a bright green to draw out the differences between recesses and midtones as it's a little samey and muddled atm.
Those designs on his clothes will look great with that lighter green as well.

>>55188806
I was going for a sort of old, mossy, dead wood. So thanks for that!

>>55188819
Do you think Caliban green is light enough?

>>55188845
not this anon but maybe you should try with deathguard green

>>55188870
>tfw should've bought more paint

>>55188767
Try adding details such as woad and put a tiny bit of paint in the eye (even black is fine)

>>55188892
I know that feel mate. I'm a poorfag so I tried to use as few paints as possible. I started with 6 pots and now I have 25. Don't even try to fight this - if you need a paint just buy it and try to think out how to use it as often as possible

>>55188718
Not him, but they are very even in the end, the difference is negligible. I prefer the sword, as it offers more in a protracted fight, but the model is mobile enough to be generally assured the charge.
The question between chalice and shield is more significant.

>>55188845
dead wood often has bright moss growing on it so it can be in theme.

I was thinking moot green or elysian green. Caliban green is probably too dark, but give it a try-mix with a tiny dab of white and a much tinyer dab of orange and just see how it looks, we're in the lab on this one anyway!

>>55187897
Actually it's likely that the Chaos Dearfs helped forge at least some of the Eight Lamentations. If they're not out for themselves, they primarily work for Khorne, Hashut does come from Khorne after all.

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>>55188767
Aaaaand after following some suggestions here.

Sort of goofed on the eyes-- my brush wasn't as fine as I thought it was. Not sure how to smooth that out.

Drybrushed again in Caliban Green, didn't put too much on since I was afraid of overdoing it.

How did I do?

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>>55188978
Actually...

>>55189047
Deadwood anon here. I think the Blue blends in too much. Would you consider bright green or red? Would add a bit more of an elemental or sinister look.

>>55188788
The Lance and Sword have the same range, believe it or not. In fact, their only differences are:
Sword gets 4 attacks and D3 damage
Lance gets 3 attacks and 2 damage, except on the charge, where it gets 3 damage.

That's why Anon was planning on taking Mist Form for his Command Ability, as it lets your General retreat and charge in the same turn.

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>>55189047
>>55188767
>>55188756
>mfw always wanted to buy sylvaneth SC to paint treedudes white and purple/red but already have two armies and not enough money for the third one

>>55189108
Definitely will try that tomorrow when I can go out for more paints! Thinking the red may happen. Or maybe even some sort of frost white? Will post in the thread when I can manage that.

Overall though, how does the highlighting and overall color look in regards to a finished model? Could/should I use this scheme for the rest of the unit? I'm just trying to make sure it doesn't look ridiculous compared to how a sylvaneth army is -supposed- to be painted.

>>55189195
I am mainly thinking red on the eyes to give this sinister look to them. It will also act as a nice contrast to the mono colouring.

I am not one to highlight personally myself but I think the best idea you can think of is KISS (Keep it Stupid Simple), or in other words keep it simple.

>>55189195
>how a sylvaneth army is -supposed- to be painted
It is supposed to look as you wish anon. They are your dudes so you can paint them yellow-pink if you wish so.
I would say you should stick with using base colours, drybrushing and shades and learn how to use these basic techniques

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How does one build a unit of 40 skinks? Are Meteoric Javelins and Star-bucklers a fine option?

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>take a break from keeping up with AoS to put together my new PC and finally play the shit out Total War: Warhammer
>Skaven trailer drops for the sequel, hype levels at maximum
>come back to AoS
>find out my Verminus-core mixed army is now literal trash

I'm not interested in any of the monoclan builds at all (including Verminus) so I guess GW has jut fucked me inside out for the foreseeable future. At least TW:WH II is there to take the edge off, I guess.

>>55189384
They're okay-ish, but blowpipe and club are usually the way to go, since the shileds won' save you for shit and the added damage potential isn't horrible.

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>>55189405
>Hyped about GHB17
>Skryre and Pestilens gonna be buffed
>Allegiance abilities for mini-factions and new allies boxes
>"Everything gonna be alri-"
>Chaos allegiance abilities nerfed as fuck so the backbone of my army is now useless
>My fluffy mixed army is fucked even in casual-tier games
Also GF bought me a T'au start collecting so I have to choose what I want to do - buy 3 boxes of stormfiends and 2 WLCs to go full skryre, start a brand new army for AoS or maybe drop the AoS for few months and expand my new T'au army

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i'm starting a skirmish campaign with some friends who are new/not yet in the hobby so i bought the getting started with aos booklet to have the rules on paper. i turned the complentary sigmarine into a statue

any tips on skirmish?

>>55189576
Oh shit, that's great
>any tips on skirmish?
It's all about bodies. The Skirmish campaign is great but you have to play with ~16 renown heroes or start with 30 renown per player

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Spire of Dawn removed from Swedish and Danish web stores, (OOP?) anyone know where I can buy it that ships within the EU?

>>55187351

Get some purple power cleaner or dettol and soak the mini in it over-night. By tomorrow you should be able to scrub the mini with a toothbrush and the paint will slough off.

When painting next time, just make sure to prime the mini first and be careful of your drybrushing

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>>55189576
Nice, I turned mine into a Paladin for Bretcasts.

>>55189576
- horde armies do better than elites
- shooting is better than melee
- auras are better than targeted abilities

What army are you considering?

>>55189729
Gone from UK too right? I remember following it's pictures for my painting and then it disappeared.

>>55189550
>>55189405
>tfw DoK buffed as fuck

>>55189845
Oh yeah it is, still up on "Rest of EU", "Rest of world" with Japanese, Spanish and German boxes and a few select countries.

>>55187619
Is this rat inviting me to share a watermelon?

>>55189932
It's all been a colossal misunderstanding; They just want to hold a beach party.

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Are there any cheap seraphon kits with plenty of decorative bits like amulets, feathers etc? I want to make some objective markers and small terrains for skirmish games

>>55185706
Get or build a wet palette. I'm sure its regarded as a preference thing here because no one ever mentions it, but it keeps your paints wet enough that you aren't shoving around thick flakes on a palette 5 minutes in.

>>55189591
ty anon, we decided to start at 30 renown or we would have way to few mini's on the table. i also downloaded the full points lists so me and a friend who has been out of the hobby al long time can use our mini's that are not in the booklet

>>55189828
cool anon, what colors are you going to paint him?

>>55189829
i'm using my beastmen, i think wargor, gors and ungors with bows to start with or my tzeentch beastshaman with pink horrors and bow ungor. maybe some warhounds with both. i need to check the points and make a list but atm i'm assembling ungors. i also want to use my centigor but they need to be repainted

my hobby revival friend is a dwarf player who's more into gaming than painting, i won't be surprised if he brings his long drong slayer pirates i painted for him 10+ years ago (and find the rules to make them work)

one of the new guys likes lizardmen so i gave him some 5th edition starter skinks, saurusses and and a metal terradon to make general

the other new guy is undecided, he likes stormcast or sylvaneth

i havn't played since 6th after that it was only modelling and painting. it already feels good knowing i'm going to throw some dice again soon. i'm trying to build a small comminty and there's also new lgs in a city nearby wich seems friendly enough

>>55190741
>i also downloaded the full points lists so me and a friend who has been out of the hobby al long time can use our mini's that are not in the booklet
Be careful with this one. Some of the renown values are just absurd - great orruk shaman and warboss for 28 is a joke

>>55190195
Skinks, knights and the stegadon are all right up your alley, friend. The terradon kit has a bunch of earing feather bits, though.

>>55190741
Neat, beastmen are very good in Skirmish. I regularily run against them with my SCE, but I have yet to pull off a win. With five guys total there are just too many to kill them all in time before getting swamped or losing on objectives.

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As someone who has never played Warhammer Fantasy/AoS, is Spire of Dawn worth splitting with someone? Will it set me up nicely for Skaven? My LGS is going to do an escalation League for it.

Also, are Skaven decent? Do they cost a ton to build an army for?

>>55191009
>is Spire of Dawn worth splitting with someone
Yes
>Will it set me up nicely for Skaven
Oh yes
>are Skaven decent? Do they cost a ton to build an army for?
Nah and nah.

Listen boi. Spire of Dawn is a great source of models for 3 different clans. You have plenty of infantry for verminus, weapon teams for skryre and neat ogres for moulder.
- Right now verminus are shit on their own but in casual games they work as a fine board spam. Clanrats are not as good as they used to be but believe me - you want them.
- Weapon teams and warlock engineer are your must-have for any skryre army. Clan Skryre just got new allegiance abilities so if you play them on their own you will be allowed to use really nice stuff
- Moulder is just Moulder tho

With two Spire of Dawn boxes you are more than fine to build a nice casual army.
If you want play skryre then you need two SoD boxes (weapoooon teams), 2 stormfiends boxes for battlelines and ~2 Warp Lightning Cannons - believe me, you want these cannons. You can always take the clanrats and say that you are using them as skryre acolytes - your second skryre battleline option.

>>55191198
Ah, okay thanks. Think I'll skip the even then. Can't afford to spend $150 + on AoS just to get started.

>>55191233
event*

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>>55190782
we are'nt listbuilding yet but thnx for the tip anon, is there a version that is 100% good or do we just look for things that seem way of?

>>55190906
>Neat, beastmen are very good in Skirmish.

that's good to hear, i liked them in 6th with the mixed units and skisrmish style play. i had them teamed up with my khorne chaos warriors to get some cheap troops and i because i liked the models but they where not that strong as an army on their own

pic is what i have painted for my new herd thus far. my wargor is primed and ready to go and i want to build 5 bowungor to start with. i think that gives me plenty pained dudes to start of my warband

>>55191233
C'mon man - spire of dawn is okay to start with. I also started with this box. Right now just with one SoD you have a 770pts army.

Allegiance: Chaos

Leaders
Warlock Engineer (100)
Packmaster (80)
- Shock-Prod
Skaven Warlord (100)
- General
- War Halberd
- Trait: Lord of War
- Artefact: Crown of Conquest

Battleline
2 x Rat Ogors (120)
- Moulder Battleline
20 x Clanrats (120)
- Rusty Spear
20 x Clanrats (120)
- Rusty Spear

Units
1 x Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team (70)
1 x Poisoned Wind Mortar Weapon Team (60)

Total: 770/1000

How much can you spend beside SoD?

>>55191270
Just eyeball them. Most are perfectly reasonable, the really silly ones tend to stand out.

>>55191302
Like $30 MAX.

>>55190741
I legit have no idea what colours I'm going to paint him. Possibly a very bright traditional metal, with blue and white heraldry.

>>55191329
Shiet man. Where are you from? How much are you paying for SoD? I'm from Poland so I don't really know other prices - I never gave a fuck about them tho

>>55191353
US, but I don't make a lot of money. Bills man.

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Rate the skryre list.

I imagine the arch warlock going with the packmaster and the 6 stormfiends with shock gauntlets and doomfists.

>7 wound models with 12 bravery
>+1 to hit and to charge with artifact buff
>+1 to hit and to charge with packmaster buff
>exploding hits on 4+ with an average of 60 attacks total
>warpstone spark buff gives the attacks double damage, which means on average 30 attacks with -1 rend and 4 damage each

And to top it off some nasty shooting. Not a lot of bodies, but any opinions?

>>55191387
I understand you mate.
Listen, I bought each SoD box for 225PLN. I sold the Aelf half with round bases for ~50%. Then I sold the square bases for 40PLN. The final cost of a SoD was 65PLN - the fuckin clanrat box costs something like 80PLN.
Find the aelf player in your area and talk with him about 50/50 cost splitting but keep the square bases - you can also try to find someone on FB groups. Find a whfb group and sell them square bases for few bucks. If you play it well, you will end up with 2 SoD boxes but you will actually pay for them less than you would pay for a single start collecting box

>>55190647
Is baking paper the same as parchment paper or ...

>>55191484
>packmaster
Is this a missclick or some kind of secret-tech I have no idea about

>>55191302
Spire of dawn is only avaible in non European countries now for some reason

>>55191518

Packmasters double the bravery of all moulder units within 6'' and can buff a unit for +1 to charge and hit rolls.

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>>55191550
>stormfiends have a moulder keyword
Oh shit. Ohhh shiiit, it changes everything

>>55191539
Some LGSs and online stores still have them

>>55191579
Welcome to two years ago, anon.

>>55191596
Can you link stores that ship to Britain please?

>>55191509
I'm 50/50 splitting with someone already. The $30 extra was after the cost of my half of the box, haha.

can anyone recommend a video or written guide/intro to the main differences between 40k and sigmar for people who have only played the former?

>>55191657

they are literally the same except for 40k having more contrived datasheets requiring you to look up special weapons and the like.

>>55191657
The AoS rules are four pages long. Just read them and draw your own conclusion.

>>55191641
Well color me retarded - I'm playing skaven for 2 years and didn't notice this. Jesus, I'm stupid and blind
>>55191653
Sadly, no. I was looking for polish stores only and I heard that some german stores are still selling them but didn't ask for a link
>>55191654
They buy one and save some money for the next one in few weeks/months. Even if you will not buy the second box you will still find the weapon teams and heroes useful. Also this box is just great for a skirmish games but If you are very poor and still want to play miniatures game you should try x-wing or infinity - I heard that infinity is the most budget miniature-based game right now so maybe ask about budget way to get into the hobby on their general thread

Can anyone give me a good 1000 point Skyre allegiance list? Doomwheels, doom-flayers, arch warlocks... that all looks pretty fun and I kinda want to make a full Skrye kit instead of just a chaos allegiance random group of shit

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Yo, /aosg/, newbie question:
I just ordered two boxes of Start Collecting Fyreslayers and a box of Hearthguard Berserkers, since our group decided to finally get into Age of Sigmar proper after a long while of Silver Tower and Shadows over Hammerhal.
Now, I have the Doomseeker and the Auric Runemaster from Silvertower already; I've read how shit the Runemaster is, but barely anybody seems to say/write anything about the Doomseeker. Is he any good? Is he worth including in an army?

>>55192220
My casual list. I can always drop 10 acolytes and the doom flayer for a second WLC

Allegiance: Skryre

Leaders
Warlock Engineer (100)
- General
- Trait: Overseer of Destruction
Warlock Engineer (100)
- Artefact: Brass Orb

Battleline
15 x Skryre Acolytes (180)
- Skryre Battleline
15 x Skryre Acolytes (180)
- Skryre Battleline

Units
1 x Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team (70)
1 x Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team (70)
1 x Poisoned Wind Mortar Weapon Team (60)
1 x Doom Flayer Weapon Team (60)

War Machines
Warp Lightning Cannon (180)

Total: 1000/1000

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>Latest white dwarf has a picture of Nagash with Skellies using TK shields and spears
>Still no upgrade kit at least to make your skellies look like TK

Truly Kirby's greatest sin was killing the Tomb Kings. Fuck him.

>>55192230
He's okay; super killy, and I like using the Silver Tower heroes (I use the mistweaver in my DoK). If you want to use him I'd go ahead, but I don't think it's an optimal choice just because he's not the toughest for the price

>>55186969
>>55187305

A bit late now, but it wouldn't work well. If you want to get a mossy feel, instead of trying to drybrush, use a heavy wash of Athonian Camoshade, or a Waywatcher Green glaze.

>>55192380
Skaven clanrats
>Drummer musician
Chaos Marauders
>Drummer musician

Skelebros and grave guard with no lungs
>Horn/tromboner musician

I guess its the winds of magic they use?

The "Nagash : The Undying King" exclusive novel says that Arkan, Mannfred, and Neferata in AoS are not the original ones from WHFB. They are constructs that Nagash created from his memories of them. These three don't really remember what happened in the Old World. It's so vague and blurry to them. It's always on the edges of their minds but they always fail to fully recall what had been.

This raises a few questions. What happened to the originals? Why did Nagash choose to remember and bring back Mannfred?

>>55192649
They also have no muscles Anon but they are still walking

>>55192724
because shit writing, and his model already exists.
Manfred ended the old world and should be in the shithouse forever

>>55192724

I've not had a chance to go to Nottingham and buy the book yet.. Any chance you can post the pages with this on?

>>55192230
He's just a poor version of the Grimwrath Berserker really.

>>55192724
Because the models are too new to retire.

I'm not kidding, that's the only reason.

>>55192649
>He doesn't doot while doing the skeleton skoot.

wtf

Blight War was announced like 2 days ago and its already in stores.

>>55192724
Nagash really hates Manfred, so made a pretend Manfred to shit on.

>>55192230
He compares well to a runeson on foot, i.e. by no means bad, but runefather and grimwrath both outclass them by a truckload.

>>55192499
>super killy
I would argue that his lack of killy is actually the biggest problem. Other infantry guys provide better melee with less conditions.

>>55192724
Because it's a good base for TK reboot

>>55192649
Anon what were skeletons before they were dead, and how primitive are horns compared to drums

>>55192789
>>55192499
Actually, how does Runic Power work? Or rather, when? Does it proc anytime he slays a model and stack? Once per phase? Per turn?

>>55192724
>What happened to the originals?
They died. The whole world died. Nagash was the Incarnate of Shyish, so he was one of the few that survived.

>>55192862
Please let this be true, but let chariots be the same base as old ones

>>55192799
The models were released with that already planned.

Here is why:

"Now why he bought mannfred back? They have not gone into much detail why vlad is not back honestly he is more kind of a "relic" character. They do explain why nagash like's mannfred hell he views him like a "son" now.

Nagash states in lord of undeath the recent realm gate novel that the reason why he favors Mannfred so much despite the crap he pulls is that he values his twisted mind and he will always have need of it. Out of his Mortarch's he only call's mannfred Princling, Errant Child or Prodigal son if you know the bible story this is quite interesting. I mean did anyone see that Mannfred would end the world as revenge? Heck no.

Neferata sums up mannfred well in pretty much two lines in in the lord of Undeath AOS novel. When she explaining to her thrall vampire what kind of person/vampire mannfred is when they were looking for him since nagash wants his "prodigal son" back to deal with chaos. Her thrall called him weak/coward for recovering in his castle of Nachtsreik after getting bisected in a previous battle in another novel.

Neferata: "You should be careful not to underestimate Mannfred you will rue the day if you cross him. He is the kind of person you do not wish for as an enemy for if you wrong him, he will chase you down until the end of your days to ensure your destruction."

Cont.>>55192919

"So yeah Mannfred is the new scion of the von carsteins in AOS unless GW feel like blowing the dust off of Vlad.

He never calls Neferata or Arkhan his child through out the novel.

Nagash said his schemes and avarice put's Neferata's ones to shame. He does note that now he does not mind his Mortarch's plotting and out of all his Mortarch's Mannfred resisted chaos the most because of his uncanny planning. He wishes neferata thought more further than her flesh and immediate needs, Nagash actually wants Arkhan to have "some" ambition(Instead of thinking he is a mindless drone) but his problem with Mannfred is that he overestimates himself at the worst of times.

Nagash normally let's mannfred in on some aspects of his plan because he knows he would figure most of it out and has the ability to help him complete it because of his tenacity. Mannfred is also fully aware at times when Nagash is exerting his influence on him to achieve some end compared to neferata.

Now why mannfred still serves nagash? The way he has been written it seems he has learned from past mistakes and act's more in Vlad's manner well he has learned patience. He states in nagash's novel he has fully accepted Nagash is his master unlike neferata and he will be patient for the time for he can escape his servitude. Honestly Mannfred has an argument with Arkhan who is the better servant after he beats him in one other novel. :P

Plus Nagash knows that Mannfred will ALWAYS view sigmar and his warriors as an enemy and that is something he needs out of him as well. While neferata is trying to ally with them to escape nagash (which does not work since he is fully aware of her plans).

Mannfred's past actions in the old world has turned him into a pariah of sorts to the point where even living nagash worshipers know of him and are told never to trust him.

>>55192919
I can see why everyone keeps viewing him as a son; He's such an immature little cunt.

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>>55192230
Get a Grimwrath Berzeker, it's pretty much the direct upgrade

The berzeker with a bit of luck with the dices is an unstoppable monster of murder, really

>>55192937
Cont.
"One interesting note that Vlad's ring and Kemmlers cloak of mist and shadows were turned into magical artifacts for all the Death faction. So I don't think they are coming back.

It also helps that mannfred is a part of a new and expensive kit."
TLDR; He values his twisted mind and his backstabbing ways and considers him a "child"/son now but nagash has problems with him overestimating himself. Plus he hates sigmar and his warriors which also helps. I mean hell he out did him in the death chart by ending the world and accidentally giving nagash god hood. The events of WHFB is still canon sometimes they are referenced in the books.

Mannfred is still somewhat of a Pariah due to the point where even human worshipers of nagash tell a lord celestant he is not to be trusted. When Mannfred is acting tour guide to the underworld so they can parley with Nagash.

Why vlad is not back this is merely my opinion. Well Nagash doesn't want to resurrect him since he does not need him and would not serve him if there is any hint that Isabella is alive. Plus he does not have a shiny new model like mannfred. Oh and isabella is hinted to be alive in AOS as well."

This is from the Total Warhammer thread on AoS Lore. Which is actually a good source of info.
>https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/183294/aos-lore-thread

The Ripsnikk's Raiders batallion in the spire of dawn book is 1 warlord, 2 units of clanrats, 1 unit of rat ogors, 1 packmaster, 1 warlock engineer, 1 warpfire thrower, 1 poisoned wind mortar...

If you take these units and pay the 80 points for the batallion benefits, can you still do that under a regular Chaos Allegiance? Like can I take this spire of dawn set, use the batallion abilities, and then add in other skaven pieces or if I add other skaven pieces do I no longer get the batallion?

>>55192959
This is all gay as fuck though.
Konrad, Vlad, Luthor Harkan, Abhorash, or the Red Duke are all cooler than Mannfred, and less of a bumbling idiot.

>>55193030
None of those plebs are cooler than Mannfredo.

>>55192829
Fug, believe this guy over me, I was just trying to remember what my friend who loves dwarves was telling me about it

>>55192904
GW needs a death posterboys faction. The best way to make some money on this would be a brand new faction release. They also know that new players don't want to play with some generic skellies - newbies want a neat thematic faction like aztec skellies or viking skellies or any other "thematic" skellies. With NuKing release GW will kill two bird with one stone - they will please both newfags and oldfags

t. AoS newfag

>>55192954
Even when Fyreslayers were shit and overcosted, the Grimwrath Berzerker was still good. The little fuck is great.

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>>55193088

>>55185594

Has the Eight Lamentations: Spear of Shadows epub been dumped yet?

>>55193126
It's just my opinion and conclusion - I'm not claiming that my uncle is working for GW or Nintendo. Business-wise releasing a one faction that would be sought-after by more than one target group is a good idea

>>55193186
Shit, I was hoping you could hook me up with some neat stuff.

>>55193088
The Deathlords are the posterboys of the Death Alliance, like Stormcast are for Order and the Everchosen are for Chaos.

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>>55193238
>Everchosen are for Chaos

>>55193238
Not here. The only posterboys we have in these parts are the brave and faithful IRONBREAKERS!

>>55193238
Ah yes, the posterboys for Chaos, as seen collected in the starter set lead by Khorgos Khul, Mighty Lord of the Everchosen.

>>55192779
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFHPc1tOohc

Here is a review of it.

>>55193177
I would also like this.

>>55193177
>>55193594
Please support the release of non-Stormcast centric books.

>>55185735
>even after GHB17 release some anon claimed that you can mix them
>even a guy at my lgs that wants to mix abilities on his list
The Handbook clearly states you pick one or the other, either your Grand Alliance Allegiance, or your specific faction Allegiance if it exists. Both of these guys are idiots wishing for things that directly contradict the clearly written rules.

>AoS comes out
>wahh there's not enough rules w-what if someone wants to take 9 Nagash!
>GHB is out
>wahhh I want to ignore the rules and mix Allegiance abilities and take 9 Nagash!

>>55185801
>but it looks really runny
So long as your paint isn't settling in the recesses and messing up your layers, should be fine. Can always add more layers of paint.

The 1d4chan page for slaves to darkness mentions the Feigned Charge rule for marauder horsemen? Where can this rule be found as it's not on the units warscroll

Can you take barbarian flails AND dark wood shields on chaos marauders

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>>55193797
I think it wasn't intended to work like this but yeah

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>>55193705
In that case, Warscroll Builder is bugged. Someone better send them a report.

>>55193013

Anyone have any thoughts on this? I dont understand how batallions work I guess

So ive been thinking about starting a tzeentch army, cuz i really like the look of the lord of change (dope as fuck), but im unsure what units are currently good.

From what ive seen, the gaunt summoner, especially on a balewind vortex, is a good way to dealwith hordes?

I dont reallylike the way tzaangors look so il skip them.

About pink horrors, is it worth getting blue/brimstone horrors?

>>55194606
If you take a battalion you have to use all units listed on the battalion. Sure you can use more units in your army like extra weapon teams but they will not benefit from battalion's bonus

I'm thinking about getting a small AoS army and seeing how things go, i'm a really really really slow painter though and I'd like to offset this by picking something stupidly easy to paint, currently torn between Nurgle/Plague monks and Skeletons. just wondering what the general state of these guys is at the moment.
(I know stormcast are probably the easiest to paint but they're so lacking in personality it feels pointless)

>>55193896
Not exactly sure what I'm looking at here, but I'm guessing the Builder just gives you all the options and trusts you to not be an imbecile. From the little I have played with the Builder it seems pretty barebones. Either that or yeah they might not have implemented it properly.

>>55194847
Nurgle just got a new release so they are pretty nifty as a choice. Death/skellies are a bit in the shadows. Slaves to Darkness are another easy to put together army.

The Goreblade Warband battalion for Khorne (the battalion that comes in the fucking starter set) is not listed in the GHB points list. Not sure if other battalions are missing but in this case of an unlisted battalion, what do?

New Skaven type spotted in the Eight Lamentations. Deathvermin. Massive grey rats, bigger than even Stormvermin with huge hooked blades which have a hair of the Horned Rat at their core.

Author OC or hints and new models?

>>55195158
Skaven Daemons

>>55195158
Cool. Maybe they will be in vermintide II

>>55195266
I think Vermintide 2 won't take place in AoS
No one wants to pick up the liscense despite the game doing well

>>55195285
They did drop the ":End Times" tag though, so maybe?

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So, which are better? Chaos warriors with great weapons or with halberds?

>>55195477
I think they'd be too worried about sabotaging a portion of their fanbase; while AoS players are pretty uncaring about indulging in WHF content, some WHF fans are still insanely upset over the whole affair and would probably raise a big stink about it. Personally I wouldn't want to deal with that unless GW was paying me big money to do it

>>55195598
>what's better, this basic hand weapon or this basic hand weapon?

Are you planning to play super competitively? If not, then who cares?

>>55195598
Against Samecast great weapons are good for the rend, but you lose the shield. Otherwise halbreds are fine.

Honestly it doesnt matter too much because they are so similar. Its more important to get the buffs on them like oracular visions, etc

>>55195598
How big is your squad? The reach on halberds will matter the more dudes you have.
How common are mortal wounds? The shields are nice vs that.
Statistically, the weapons all suck within a pretty close spread (1 avg wound for the halberds, 2-3 for the "greatblades" per 10 swings vs 4+ save).

Purely aesthetically, a legion of chaos warriors with tower shields look amazing imo.

>>55195158
Anything on "possibly the stupidest Verminlord ever spawned."

I have reached new levels of angst from trying to assemble the Terrogheist over the past couple of days.

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Trying to make the best with what I got. Should I remove some stuff for another trio of Stormfiends? Any other suggestions?
Allegiance: Chaos

Leaders
Arch Warlock (140)
Thanquol and Boneripper (450)
- Warpfire Projectors
Skaven Warlord (100)
- General
- War Halberd
- Trait: Lord of War
Verminlord Warbringer (300)
- Artefact: Crown of Conquest

Battleline
3 x Stormfiends (300)
- Skryre Battleline
40 x Clanrats (200)
- Rusty Spear
20 x Clanrats (120)
- Rusty Blade
20 x Clanrats (120)
- Rusty Blade

Units
1 x Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team (70)
1 x Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team (70)
1 x Warpfire Thrower Weapon Team (70)
1 x Poisoned Wind Mortar Weapon Team (60)

Total: 2000/ 2000

>>55192887
I feel like horns and drums are about the same level of primitive

>>55193748
It's feigned flight

>>55189047
This looks like you're just slapping random colors on using techniques you picked up from a YouTube video but don't really have a deep understanding of.

What color do you even want these to be? You went from a brown that you wanted a mossy look on to like a dark green-blue that is muddy and not very tree-like.

I suggest following a formula from the get go instead of deciding on colors and applying drybrushes of colors that sit in awkward places comparatively to the things you're layering them on the color wheel.

>>55185617
>2k17
>still playing unsupported legacyshit

Is there any justifiable reason Fyreslayers would be seen fighting with Sylvaneth as allies? Trying to jsutify putting them in an army together outswide of "my dudes"

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>>55197821
>just slapping random colors etc
You'd be entirely correct.

This is the kind of scheme I was trying to go for-- couldn't find a guide on the exact colors so I tried to guess.

>>55198187
Looks like they use Nihilakh Oxide for their final highlight.

I don't care much for this scheme, but if you want to go for it I think Eshin Grey > Rhinox Hide > Nuln Oil > Mournfang Brown drybrush > Agrax Earthshade > Nihilakh Oxide highlight would pull it off.

>>55198226
Appreciate the input anon.
So you think I should stick with the tutorial color schemes until I get better at what I'm doing?

>>55185594
Acording to this book, the dawi from Zhufbar survived the end times by doing the same the skaven did to skavenblight.

>>55187897
Chaos dwarfs are actually mentioned, and one of the khorne guys was a disciple of Grungni.

Also, someone please Grungni a fucking hug.

>>55198238
Google the Citadel paint chart and play around with the formulas on it until you get a better understanding of how the range works together.

Once you do that, adding colors from other ranges like Vallejo will be a breeze because you know what plays well together.

>>55198368
Chaos duardins =/= dawi from Zhufbar

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>>55185594
Soon

>>55185617
So Grombrindal survived End Times?

>>55198526
Eh... yeah, I know it. BOTH are mentioned.

>>55198543
Nope,
>>55198610
>BOTH are mentioned.
Liar

>>55198617
>Full rules for using Grombrindal, The White Dwarf in both Warhammer Age of Sigmar and Warhammer Quest Silver Tower can be found exclusively in September’s issue of White Dwarf!"

Need a quick overview from more experienced players on my 500 point Death list.
Playing with a m8, so casul games, but just interested to see how strong you guys think it is.

Wight King, baleful tomb blade, no mount - 120

10 x skeletons - 80
10 x skeletons - 80
2 x morghast archai - 220

Planning to use Skeletons to intercept enemy troops from getting to the Wight King or Archai, while using the Archai to wreck shit and the wight king to blast shit with mystic bolt thanks to Master of the Black Arts.


Any tips to improve?

>>55198543
Yes, he helps lead a human wizard to the edge of the realms in this story.

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>>55198766
It would help if I posted the image.

>>55191511

Yes

>>55198717
Dude 2 morghast for 500p games seem a little op, what is your opponent bringing?

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>Spire of Dawn OOP
>Elffags BTFO once again

>>55198706
That doesn't mean shit. You can play dead characters and they said it was to "simulate the battles of the old world".

>>55198937
Branchwraith

10 x dryads
10 x dryads
5 x sisters of the thorn


Both lists are 500 exactly.

Would I crush my friend?

>>55198944
>>Spire of Dawn OOP
And nothing value was lost
>>55198966
>5 x sisters of the thorn
Drop it.

>>55199016
Drop the archai because of the sisters of the thorn?

Whats wrong with SotT?

>>55199041
>Whats wrong with SotT?
Legacy-unit, go full sylvaneth

>>55199083
im letting my pal have Sylvaneth allegiance cause its just us playing against each other.

Does that change anything?

>>55199122
>Does that change anything?
Yep, one unit are deadweight, use kurnouth hunters, instead

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i know verminous is RIP, but I just finished my converted warlord.
New Skaven book when?

Isn't the wording on the new missions/objectives kind of redundant? You need 20 guys to claim an objective or just more than your opponent has, so I don't need 20 at all ... why even mention it?

>>55196799
Go full skryre if you're gonna include that many stormfiends. Or get some jezzails to go with the chaos allegiance

>>55199138
Sorry if it seems like im arguing but im pretty new and dont quite understand.
Educate me, why are Sisters of the Thorn bad?
huge movement + rerolling failed save throws and more arcane bolt seems good to me

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>>55199150
That looks pretty good.

Frostlord on a Stonehorn, General 460pts

Huskard on Stonehorn 380pts

Stonehorn Beastrider 360pts

4 Mournfangs 320pts

4 Mournfangs 320pts

4 Mournfangs 320pts

Aleguzzler Gargant 170pts

Eurlbad 160pts

The Aos App keeps telling me this list isn't valid, is it bugged or am I missing something?

>>55185594
Novel is up.

https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA

>>55199276
>https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA7

Thanks anon!

>>55199215
He's meme-ing, don't pay him any regard.

Sisters of the Thorn are pretty damn good because they have one of the best spells in the game, Shiled of Thorns. That said, they need a unit worth buffing with that, such as Eternal Guard, to really shine.
Also, you'll want them as allies (since Sylvaneth allegiance is *very* important to the Sylvaneth units), but they cost too much to bring as allies at 500.
For friendly games it's fine, but be prepared for an uphill struggle.

>>55199250
Huskards and Beastriders on stonehorns are garbage, take Thundertusks on them instead.

>>55199215
>replying to the obvious bait

>>55199422
20-30ish Dryads are as good a buff receiver as eternal guards. But that's also quite an investment pointswise.

>>55193098
>Playing against the Bone Zone
>My grimwrath wants to get off of Mr Bones wild ride
>Cuts down no less than 30 Skeletons himself and punches two wight kings in their boners to do it.

When everyone is theorycrafting hordes, the Grimwrath really makes Fyreslayers a scary thought.

>>55185840

That fucking name...Jesus.

>>55193030
From the sounds of it, all we need for Vlad to come back is one of the designers wanting to make a new Vlad Model.

Is there any good alt models for the Mornghul?

How big is it?

>>55198944
It's in production in non european countries but no where else, next time I go into GW I'm going to ask my blackshirt about it

>>55199502
It's lovely having the future of things we care about being at people's random whims.

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how well would people take it if I wanted to use a legacy unit in a casual game that got squatted in GHB2017 but had a pitched battle profile points and all in GHB1?

>>55199498
Everything must be copywritten! Everything! Even if the only way to do that is to make nonsense portmanteaus that no-one will ever say aloud!

>>55199479
Yes, very much so. In a Wildwood they become very good when buffed with SoT.
But you really need 20+ for this, since the buff only procs at 12, and he has two units of 10 for now, which is less ideal.

>>55199567
Depends on the people. Your friends will probably let you do it, if they're good friends. People you've just met? How should I know how they'd act any more than you would?

>>55199563
Literally been like that since the dawn of time.

>>55199567
Depends on the unit in question.
In general, many people won't appreciate it, but if you have a good fluffy reason I'd say most of those might come around.

>>55199563
This is different from the way things were how exactly?

>>55199592
I have a kitbashed and somewhat converted model to represent a named character with a unique ability which my whole list was built around. That character is gone now, my list doesn't work, and the model no longer fits anything in the current warscrolls.

>>55198617
Except not: they are the separate instances. Chaos Dorfs are mentioned as the guys whom enslaved one of the chaos guys before being freed by Grungni. Zhufbar is mentioned by the ironweld boss of Excelsis as its people having dug their way into the mortal realms

>>55199606
Which named character was that?

>>55199606
Tell us more and post a picture.

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My LGS is actually starting to give a shit about AoS
Dubs pick my army, I can't decide

>>55199713
Tomb Kings

>>55199713
Ironjawz

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>>55199692
>>55199686
squatted warscroll to come in next post

>>55199713
Fyreslayers

>>55199713
Moonclan

>>55199713
Flesheater Courts

>>55199713
Brets if odd.
Sky dwarfs if even.

'Pick my army' fucker is everywhere. I'll be back to these threads once he's gotten bored of fucking around.

>>55199713
Storm cucks.

If odds, kitbash and paint to look like Khorne units as much as possible.

If evens, kitbash and paint to look like space marines as much as possible.

>>55199588
>>55199598
Please, point me to the part where I said otherwise.

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>>55199751
This character was removed from the game because of his ability that called for insulting your opponent. GW even said themselves that "these warscrolls have been updated to be consistent with the tone and feel of the system today."

But his other ability was what really made him for me.

GW did have an official model for the guy, which they still sell actually, but it is finecast only and looks pretty terrible.

I feel like I've been posting a lot about it the past week but I really don't know what direction to take my army now.

>>55199577
Yeah I agree. Just wanted to point it out in case he would expand in 1k or beyond

>>55199803
>but it is finecast only and looks pretty terrible.
T. Shitter

>>55199793
Rerolling for this.
odds to trigger autists
evens to trigger gee-dubz

>>55199818
REROLLING NIGGA

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>>55199713
These dudes.

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>>55199816
beauty is in the eye of the beholder I suppose

>>55199713
Bretonnia

>>55199440

Ok, but the list is legal then?

Also care to elaborate, what makes them better?

>>55199854
The fuck is wrong with his face

>>55199713
Skaven Verminus.

>>55199890
>super stiff pose
>warcraft sized pauldrons
>messed up face
>skeletons and green skin, looks like a death unit and not a chaos unit
>finecast or ebay only
>doesn't conform to ANY current warscroll
but at least he was a big deal in the old world lore or something

>>55199803
Yeah that sucks. I would just ask your opponent to use it.

>>55199713

KHARADRON OVERLORDS

>>55199854
I cannot get over that skelecrow on his back. It looks like all it wants from life is to give people big hugs.

>>55199803

Uh, didn't Wulfrik die?

How come he got a warscroll?

How do you clean your brushes? Just came back to paint today to find my brushes stiff as a rock despite me rinsing them after every color.

>>55199713
Not skaven

>>55199952
Compendium rules. All the old characters got them, but they've been removed with the latest update.