Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

Is there a data slate for Primaris Veteran sergeants?

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>>55082952
Xth for OP is a wholesome member of the community.
Thx bby.

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>tfw need to prime my dudes
>tfw it's not supposed to stop raining until Thursday.

At least I didn't get hit with one of the thirteen tornados this afternoon.

Stay safe, space city niggas, and remember the Emperor Protects.

>>55082993
Rooting for you from Fort Worth, my dude.

>>55082993
Houston here, i actually got off early because the store closed at 7 instead of midnight like every day

Alright, /tg/. What did you guys work on today?

Spilled some blood for Khorne converting my Rhinos with the Blood and Skulls MK1 kit. Those doors look sweet. Looking for my magnets as we speak.

>>55083005
Thanks. We've got 10" of rain today alone. It's gonna get rough.

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6th for da best boss eva!

>>55083007
You DROVE in this shit? You out your damn mind lol.

>>55083016
Assembling 20 more marines so I can do my 60 man chaos space marine foot slogging.

ChaWAAAGHs!!!

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>>55083022
11th for never getting rules again

>>55083016
Might I request a picture, I'd like to see your progress and your cool rhino

>>55083016
Got the power scourge off my Helbrute and replaced it with the plasma cannon, gonna put a dirge caster on the missile launcher arm and call it a Twin Blastmaster, and I'm gonna paint my Emperor's Children Exalted Champion.

>>55083016
Started ironing out details for a new custom chapter, cant decide on a color scheme yet.

I also got some progress on a chaplain dreadnought.

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>>55083016
Built some Ogryns for my Kriegers to hide behind. Gave them the Bullgryn armor and heads with a bit of wire and a canister to mimic the Krieg over-the-shoulder respirators.

Look bretty good. Planning on modeling them with Ripper guns, lots of grenades and shields. Calling them Storm Ogryns.

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>>55083016
>Alright, /tg/. What did you guys work on today?

Nothing yet, but probably going to finish putting spiders on this guy and his base and basecoat him today; still not sold on the chest arms, but they're only lightly glued on so if they still look bad when he's painted its a simple job to remove them.

>>55083016
Mandrakes. I'm converting them, because fuck paying $60 for 5 shirtless dudes.

>>55083035
i live up the street from my job in a planned community in a city west of houston, we're mostly okay. it was crazier when i drove an old lady home because her car sucks. drove through some water up the sidewalk. everything turned out alright but i was sweating bullets when i realized how deep it was

>>55083016
i'll fated attempt at casting, i'll try again tomorrow when i get more bottlecaps

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>>55083016
I finished this guy not too long ago

>>55083053
Tell me about your dudes anon, what have you got so far?

How the fuck do khornate followers get anything done? They're constantly filled with hatred and bloodlust, right? So how do they get hereteks to repair their armour? How do they not instantly start slaughtering each other to a man when there's no enemy left to fight? How does a khornate warband manage to pilot a space vessel in order to get anywhere where there IS a fight?

>>55083162
Theyre a Raven Guard successor chapter with a large number of Librarians, compared to most chapters. They have a desire for assault, utilizing bikes and jump troops. When not in battle, they take on a vow of silence, only breaking it in the heat of battle, of which its usually sung. Outside of battle, they practice the arts, some in poetry, some in songwriting, etc. Theyre called the Songbirds.

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>>55083016
Painted a Librarian, though I realized later I need to do some touch ups.

>>55083044
heck yeah! Pictures coming up.

>>55083185
Neat idea, very Gregorian. How do they communicate among themselves, sign language?

>>55083180
This comes up periodically in the fluff. Basically it depends on the warband. Some retain enough discipline to more or less function out of battle, to keep getting more ammo for their tanks, to refuel their ships, to figure out which battle field is the next destination, and only lose their shit when the enemy is in sight.

Others presumably just get vomited out of the warp like daemons when Khorne wants them to be somewhere for killing.

>>55083209
Nice work on the lenses

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>>55083016
A whole bunch of converting for my GK. I posted my Brother Captain and Chaplain(he didn't need as much conversion work.) and pic related is my Brotherhood Champion I based on the original metal model.

>>55083259
I was supposed to be painting those Wyches in the background...

>>55083236
In battle, through direct commands, usually incorporated into a general war song. Outside of battle, its mostly through notes. The Chapter's captains are the only ones allowed to speak outside of battle, due to necessary communication between Imperial forces.

>>55083255
I'm going to re-do one of them, the dots ended up a bit not level so he looks cross-eyed depending on how you look at him.

Is the Abaddon vs Sigismund fight the "Tower of Joy" of 40K?

>>55083271
thats a man... PRAISE SLAANESH!

>>55083271
>>55083325
Man or woman. That's a no ass. Some squats are in order.

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>>55083271
>messy room
>discount panties that don't even fit right
>no ass
Have some pride man.

Termies should be like 22pts a piece to be somewhat viable.

>>55082952
Is there anything for Orks I shouldnt grab?
The wartrakks seem pretty meh but they do look like they have some use

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>>55083016

Alright senpai, eviscerate my shit up.. These were quick paint jobs for last weeks psyker week.

1/3

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>>55083363

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>>55083368
3/3

>>55083368
>>55083380
Not even going to bother with why they are upside down. I hate technology.

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Does anyone know a good base mini to do a "big guy on fire" conversion from?

I want to make a Tzeentch Daemon prince and instead of some fleshy bird demon thing, I want to try making and painting something that looks like it's made entirely from fire.

>>55083016
Painted a missile Havoc for my Black Legion army. Just one though, the rest of the day was a massive four player Konor game. CSM and Daemons vs. Imperial Guard and Tau.

The IG/Tau won in the cheapest way possible. Waited for us to advance away from the board edge to completely annihilate the IG army, then deep struck a mob of battlesuits and commanders right in the corner by the edge. Next turn the Tau player ran off the board and won that way.

He gave the victory points to Chaos anyway.

Just as planned.

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After four weeks of doing basically fuck-all and wishing I could get involved. I've FINALLY managed to get some games in on the Konor campaign.

Is it just me, or is this weeks mission seem like it was basically intended to be impossible for the attackers? If it weren't for both of my opponents being caught completely off-guard by my all dreadnought army, I probably wouldn't have won these games. On another point, All-Dreadnought lists seem upsurdly powerful this edition.

Game 1: Me as a Defender against Blood Angels. I just setup wide with some nice charge angles, and somehow managed to table him on turn 2.

Game 2: Me as the attacker against Tau.

My second game for the night was downright hilarious. I saw on the right that there was a nice set of very choice BLOS cover that would let my dreadnoughts spend a whole turn advancing while completely unmolested, while the Deredeo sniped a bunch of rail-rifle equipped pathfinders that could see my dreads.

The entire rest of the game could pretty much have been summed up as "Dreadnought Drive-By". My dreadnoughts walked forward, shot everything, charged everything that could feasibly make them move closer to the board edge. Rinse and repeat for 4 turns straight.

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>>55083438
There's not much else to say, about the game. This is what the board looked like at the start of my movement phase on turn 4. I simply moved ALL of my dreadnoughts straight to the board edge, but did not move them off. My deredeo then bitch-slapped the commander suit straight off the table with 12 wounds.

>>55083438
>Is it just me, or is this weeks mission seem like it was basically intended to be impossible for the attackers?

>Deepstrike 1/3 of your army into the back table
>Run off next turn
>Impossible

I once read a greentext that was basically "what if the loyalists and traitor legions were flipped?" I. E., what if the Sons of Horus et all stayed loyal and the Ultramarines et all instead fell. Anyone remember that / have it on 1d4chan or something?

>>55083460
That's what the blood angels player tried. And then his death company + sanguinary guard got shot+charged by 5 dreadnoughts. Rest of turn 2 was mop-up. All I had to do was spread out my dreadnoughts enough that they could feasibly reach out and gently stroke any deep strikers with their power fists.

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>>55083044
Sorry, cropped a few together. So I had to cut off the existing exhausts on the Rhino, even it all down, then glue them on. Top view you can see where I need to add GS to fill in the gaps, and then door open to show where the magnets go. It's a pretty fucking awesome kit, though if I had known I would've just bought the FW triple Deimos package, as I think it ends up a little cheaper if you don't already have the Rhinos.

Kind of a boring pic, so I added the other thing I worked on, which was re positioning the legs on the Dread to have him running and magnetizing the arms. I think he turned out way better than the static BaC pose.

>>55083505
Ha, you can even see where I superglued my finger after I cut it.

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R8 my first ever model. Never painted before and this took me like an hour or two I lost track of time.

>>55083482
Dornian Heresy was what it was called

>>55083016
Did some highlighting and leadbelching on my heldrake that I bought back in 6th edition but never painted. There are so many freaking panels on this thing.... Going to my FLGS tomorrow and he has the minimum 4 colors needed to get points towards the campaign, but I really don't want to take him out in this unfinished state...

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>>55083525
Now in not sideways

>>55083525
Paint is too thick.
Wash the paint.
Apply highlights

>>55083271
C A D I A
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>>55083160
looking good my dude

>>55083363
Shit bro nice Daemon Prince of Nurgle conversion.

>>55083455
must be hard to paint all those minis

>>55083490
Then obviously he did a pretty shitty job if he set down so few models a measly five noughts could put them down. Try a clump of nine Tau Commanders + Crisis Suits + a Riptide jetting down the opposite side of the board, doing almost nothing but advancing and using its 3+ invuln ability.

>>55083536
patience is a virtue. thin your paints.

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>>55083395
Well I can at least get you the non-fleshy and non-bird part with a bit of fire...

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Currently painting up my Dark Eldar Mobile army for the first 8th edition Throne of Skulls next weekend.

What do you think of this style? I have 2 tantaluses and 3 more flyers im doing like this

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>>55083595
It's really hard to paint when every time I try to paint, I go to the opposite side of the room and see this. I have literally nowhere to put all this shit.

>>55083613

That airbrushing is so bad when will Awaken Realms stop starting and ending their blends in black and white.

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>>55083658
>That gradient

I love it.

>>55083658
Looks nice my man

>>55083665
It's not as good as the original conversion that AR stole this idea from, but I didn't have the picture on hand...

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>>55083536
Good job anon on getting to paonting your army. A few things though.
>thin your paints to a milky consistency and apply multiple thin coats after each coat has dried. 2 should do it.
>try doing some highlighting plenty of tutes of youtube.
>just be patient with painting and keep up the good work
>as much as we love to see these in the general, you would get so much more help in WIP (work in progress) try posting there and listening to the comfy wip anons advice

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Why do Ork players insist on doing cringey 'WAAAGHS' at my local GW?

Hearing 3 dudes do it and ones voice breaking in the middle of it was sad

>>55083658
Love it m8. Blending work in all areas is topnotch

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>>55083660
A plastic shelving unit with bins costs less than the world's loneliest land raider hiding at the back of your modelling nest anon.

Cleanliness is next to godliness.

>>55083707

That's been a common thing for over 20 years my man.

So for necron immortals should I go with gauss or tesla?

>>55083660
You're gonna get five boxes and sort the table as follows - 1. Modelling supplies. 2. Paints. 3. Grey Mini's 4. Primed Mini's 5. W.i.p Mini's.
Slide the boxes under the table while not in use.

>>55083732
I feel pretty bad for that LR Proteus in the back. I need to get a Dremel tool to remove some huge resin deposits inside the tread-wells, before I can fit on it's treads. Which will of course require boiling water on the stovetop.

But that will require going through my garage. Which is completely fucking filled with cardboard boxes of old shit. I really fucking hate that my family moved into a smaller house without getting rid of old shit.

>>55083660
>>55083660
Time to get organized my guy. Find a way to get all the minis you're not actively working on out of your painting space. Personally I get easily distracted by all the shit I've bought so I try to get it out of the way so I focus on the stuff I'll be using in games in the near future.

So what's the best Land Rader and why is it Crusader?

>>55083799
Largest transport capacity, lots of anti-infantry firepower to support its passengers.

Best load out for Chaplain Dreadnought?

>>55083799
Best for what?
Crusader obviously takes the prize for transport capacity and budget

>>55083823
Two Dreadnought combat weapons and two storm bolters

>>55083799
DAKKA. LITERALLY ALL OF THE DAKKA. Give it a storm bolter and a multi-melta just for the versatility. Then laugh hysterically when someone tries to charge it, and they then eat 41 shots.

I had a game today where my LRC got to kill 3 hammernators in overwatch, and then the hammernators flubbed their charge roll. So it then got to slam another unit with overwatch fire.

>>55083823
A custom made dreadnought-sized Crozius Arcanum?

i beat a 500 pt tau list in my LCS escalation league

POXYWALKSIES

hq 1 X typhus

1 squad X 6 PM 1 champion

1 squad x 15 poxwalkers

1 squad x 16 poxwalkers

funnest list ive played so far

he had
1x fireblade

1 x commander suit

1 squad x stealth suits

2 squad x five fire warriors

1 unit x some pulse drone shit

1 squad x ten pathfinders

>>55083732
Oh yeah? Explain Nurgle then.

>>55083209
Looks nice, would suggest a dash of shade on the gold, probs agrax.

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>>55083854
I said gods anon, not calcified lumps of filth worshiped by lesser- though no less repulsive- filth, clogging the materium's arteries like fifty years of Carl's Jr.

>>55083907
You take that back about Carl's Jr. you heretic. Any company that hires bikini models to make commercials on par with Victoria's Secret is okay in my book.

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1000pt Nurgle Daemons list

>Epidemius, Unclean One, Herald
>fuckton of Plaguebearers
>Soul Grinder

Anything I'm missing? Maybe the Plague Drones but are something like Nurglings good/necessary?
Someone give me a good Nurgle list.

>>55083980
If you want a good Nurgle list play Death Guard or CSM. Daemons are utter shit this edition.

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Rough 1000 point Tzeentch list, looking for feedback

Daemon Prince with Talons x 2
Exalted Champion Bolt Pistol and MURDER SWORD
Possessed x 14
Cultists x 10
Herald on Tzeentch on Burning Chariot
Herald on Tzeentch
Exalted Flamer
Flamer x 3
Cultists x 10

Still not settled on a Legion Trait or Warlord Trait, though I'm leaning towards Renegades to get my Possessed into combat quicker. Cultists are mostly there for detachment reasons so I can have more Heralds for Smiting and supporting the Possessed.

>>55083016
Blood and Skulls is good shit. I like their Capricorn kit for Chimeras

>>55083980
Nurglings are there to tie up units early on and make them waste turns on disengaging or killing them while your troops move up the field. Plague Drones are pretty sweet, so I'd try fit them in. Might be worth trying to summon the Great Unclean One into battle as its likely to get shot up by lascannons early on otherwise.

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>>55083999
>if you want a good nurgle list play death guard

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>>55084023
>He doesn't know

a scythe is a farming tool, it makes a rather impractical weapon - despite looking cool

>>55084038
Oh yeah I didn't catch the stats for those.
Mind telling us all?

Rate my list?

Battalion Detachment
Voldus: Gate, Sanc, Vortex
Draigo: Gate, Hammerhand
1 10 man Strike Squad, Falchions, Astral Aim
2 5 man Strike Squads Falchions, Hammerhand
Razorback, Lascannon

Vanguard Detachment
Brother Captain, Warlord, First to the Fray, Curiass of Sacrifice, Sanctuary

2 Apothecaries with Falchions
3 Paladin Squads with Falchions
Venerable Dread with double Autocannons.

1999/2000

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>>55083999

>>55084020
How many Nurglings do you think are reasonable? They're kind of expensive while I'm already tight trying to squeeze 20+ model units of Plaguebearers. I can see them working out pretty well against shooty lists though.

>>55083999
Death Guard is shit too. I at least want to play an army I like looking at and painting.

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>>55083999
shut up tzeentch, my win/loss score might suck ass for 8th (3-1-9) but i'm gonna keep trying new shit/tactics/units/summoning until i hit a sweet spot for take all comers list

now to make up some noise marines and combi plasmas to terminators

>>55084063
>a scythe is a farming tool, it makes a rather topnotch weapon - despite looking cool
Ftfy m8

>>55084081
>Forgot to add, Brother Captain has a hammer and Psycannon.

>>55084107
Too bad DG are too dumb to make the blade vertical

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>>55084086
>Orks that low
Fucking peasant change it now

>>55084086
>Thousand Sons

Might as well call it "Magnus and Horrors".

>>55084086
>Space Marines are broken with their Codex rules
>CSM are finally good
>Grey Knights are gutted compared to vanilla SM
t. /40kg/

>>55084086
Any one else feel that this is pretty accurate?

>>55084086
>daemons being anything other than tzeentch flamer and smite spam

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>>55083016
A few little greenstuff projects were dry, and that lead to me being able to finished my two tankhammer guys for my tankbuster mob. I might make another dual rokkit slugga boy, and I have to figure out a cheap way to get some bomb squigs, but I'm pretty happy with them so far. Just enough to cram into a trukk along with a Warboss or something, so it should be pretty useful once they're painted.

>>55084138
How many people here do you think actively play at a WAACfag level?

>>55084086

Wow, Sisters are doing a hell of a lot better than I expected...and honestly not that low in games played compared to what I expected. They are not exactly space marine big but they are outdoing a decent number of groups.

Iron Hands chapter tactics
Captain with Relic Blade, Primarchs Wrath. Merciless Logic WT

Lieutenant, Power Axe, Storm Bolter

3x 6 man tacticals, Combi plasma sarges, Lascannons

6 man Sternguard, Plasma Pistol Sarge, 2 Meltas

Centurion Devastators, hurricane bolters+heavy bolters

Storm Eagle, Lascannons, missile launcher

Stormhawk, stormcannon+missile launcher

2 Assault Cannon Tarantulas

3 Razorbacks with Storm Bolter, TL Lascannons

2k points on the dot, thoughts?
probably low on actual bodies but I like how it looks on paper
Eagle holds the cents, sternguard, captain and lieutenant and drops them off where they need to be for maximum effect

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>>55083016
working on a primaris knight for my primaris army. would not recommend Z's current FW knights at the moment because his mold is getting super old for it.

>>55084138
If you're playing an army that is pretty much designed to fight daemons exclusively, you're gonna have a bad time.

GK are cool in theory but they struggle against anything that isn't chaos or daemons.

SM are just generally more useful and adaptable to a wider variety of armies.

why are ork players usually bro tier?

>>55084213
Everything he said was supposed to be ironic in light of the data suggesting the opposite for each point, you flaming autist

>>55084213
Anon was saying those are the things wh40kg say, but the statistics prove that blatantly incorrect.

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>>55084185

>Iron Hands tactics
>Marinelets
>Not a single dread
>Actually using the shitty IH warlord trait

But why?

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Finally finished painting my converted Emperor's Children Exalted Champion.

Apologies in advance if I'm fucking this up, first time posting a list.

Battalion Detachment (Chaos - Thousand Sons)

HQ [2]

Ahriman [131pts]

Exalted Sorcerer [127pts]; Force stave; Inferno Bolt Pistol

Troops [5]

Rubric Marines [244pts]
>1x Aspiring Sorcerer; Force stave; Warpflame pistol
>8x Rubric Marine Inferno Boltgun
>1x Rubric Marine Soulreaper cannon

Rubric Marines [244pts]
>1x Aspiring Sorcerer; Force stave; Warpflame pistol
>8x Rubric Marine; Inferno Boltgun
>1x Rubric Marine; Soulreaper cannon

Tzaangors [80pts]: Icon of Flame, Instrument of Chaos
>1x Twistbray; Tzaangor blades
>9x Tzaangor; Tzaangor Blades

Tzaangors [70pts]: Instrument of Chaos
>1x Twistbray; Tzaangor blades
>9x Tzaangor; Tzaangor Blades

Tzaangors [70pts]: Instrument of Chaos
>1x Twistbray; Tzaangor blades
>9x Tzaangor; Tzaangor Blades

Elites [2]

1x Helbrute [155pts]; Helbrute fist; Power scourge

Scarab Occult Terminators [261pts]
>Scarab Occult Sorcerer; Force stave; Inferno Combi-bolter
>Terminator; Inferno Combi-bolter; Powersword
>Terminator; Inferno Combi-bolter; Powersword
>Terminator; Inferno Combi-bolter; Powersword
>Terminator; Hellfyre Missile Rack; Power sword; Soulreaper Cannon

Dedicated Transport [1]

1x Chaos Rhino [102pts]; Combi-bolter; Combi-melta; Havoc launcher

Lord of War [1]

Magnus the Red [415pts]

semi-casual 2000 point thousand sons list, with enough left over to summon the changeling. I was wondering if I can field something like a patrol detachment with the changeling + tzaangors, or an auxiliary detachment so I don't have to summon him?

>>55084223
Cause winning ain't everything, as long as you make a pretty good showing for yourself. Also you can make all sorts of shit out of vehicle bits and plasticard, so less money stress, yet you can still get access to most of your toys. Hell, anything forgeworld sells is just a challenge to build that shit.

>>55084237
>Marinelets
>using Intercessors

>>55084086
>Astra Militarum
>games played 252
>Space Marines
>games played 245

Truly Guardfags and their memescript bullshit are ultimate cancer

>>55084237
because I don't like primaris, and I have another list with a shitload of dreads

>>55084223
>large hairy men with bbq sauce stained white tshirts yelling "waaagh" at the table
>brotier

Jokes aside I don't think I've met an ork player that didn't really just like the race and put time into the bigger models (not the spammy ones but who can blame them)

>>55084223
They're not, orkfag. Anyone that calls themselves a bro isn't really a bro.

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>>55084269
>Intercessors are worse than Tac Marines

>>55084239
Looks cool, though I've learned from my Dark Eldar that things like that are a paint to transport

>>55084296
>>55084269
>>55084237

Intercessors are objectively better than tactical marines.

I love the grenade launcher.

>>55084296
But muh heavy weapon on a unit that wants to move every turn

Muh single plasma gun

>>55084302
I already know from my daemons of Slaanesh that this is going to be a huge bitch to transport.
I'm pretty fucking happy with how it looks though and I have a slot in my carry case for it.

nurgle daemons even with deathguard seem underwhelming.

How long do you think it will be until we get a daemon codex?

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>>55084302
>>55084332
Meant to attach file

>>55084340
By earlyish next year in my baseless opinion

>>55084327
>single
>laughing infinite combi shots

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Got in a game tonight, my Genestealer Cult (with some Nid allies) vs. my buddy's Space Marines. He wanted 1750 pts... but I didn't really have that much to work with, so I really wasted some points. I'll be happy to get my Orks on the table again if it's a fight over 1500 pts. Mission is "No Mercy", so no objectives, just murder.

By the end of turn 2 here, I deployed my genestealers and Patriarch in the center building, and Primus (and his now dead squad) in edge by the bottom of the pic. I was taking some serious damage all around, including losing Old One Eye and all my termagaunts (the latter giving him first blood). I get his terminators and landraider tied up in combat, and his tactical units are locked in with aberrants and the few acolytes I have from a chimera he blew earlier in the turn.

>>55084356
on a 1 wound model

>>55084367
>placing your wounds on the special weapons first

Boy you're dumb

>>55084340
Death Guard are bad so of course bad army with bad army is going to seem underwhelming. Mono Daemon/Daemons in general are going to be kind of shit until they hopefully get "fixed" with the Codex.

>>55084374
because it's really hard to kill a 10 man squad of marinelets in 1 round.

>>55084038
New Typhus looks nice.

>>55084356
>he can't equip his entire squad with AP-4 plasma

>>55084281
This, guardfags are a tumor in the 40k community.

Hating primaris is just sour grapes

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>Tourney shits destroy Death Guard
>Normies at local store think DG are OP cuz they're so tough

Hmm, whom to listen to?

>>55084407

Well, non-marine fans might be justifiably annoyed that marines are basically doubling in size as a faction before everyone actually has a codex yet.

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>>55084359
I did get to cripple his terminators with Mass Hypnosis, and buff the genestealers with Might From Beyond. Killed the terminators down to a man, and began really working on the landraider which only had minor damage until then. His sternguard and my tyranid warriors just sorta taking potshots at eachother, with my big neophyte squad backing them up. The Magus eventually switched tactics to just hitting the sternguard with Smite, which fucked them up pretty good. My aberrants didn't do great in combat, honestly, only killing about a guy each turn. My acolytes were killed by his captain, but not until getting a single hit with a Heavy Rock Drill that did 4 damage... almost killed him in one hit. My poor Primus (who I forgot could reroll his ambush roll, so he didn't have to get stuck out on the edge like he did) got gunned down hard. Thus dies the space equivalent of Tom Cruise.

>>55084086
What the zog is this squigshit is based on? Your ass?

>>55084461
IIRC it was a thread on dakkadakka where a bunch of people reported their personal wins/loses. I don't even think the SM codex was out yet at the time.

does anyone know where the 50% army in reserves rule is in the rule book

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Are Berzerker hordes a viable tactic or should I mechanize them?

>>55084391
>hellbasters are intercessors
>marinelets can't have command squads or sternguard

At some point, you should realize you should just stop posting instead of being wrong over and over and over

>>55084086
>Daemons that high up
>CSM that low
I think this picture might be out of date by an entire edition.

>>55084384
>10 man squad
>not 2x5
>implying 5 intercessors are any more durable than 10 marinelets

I already knew you were bad at the game, but okay. Here's a pity protip: if you're just using them as taxes or objective bodies, use scouts.

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>>55084475
>anecdotal evidence

>>55084516
they give rhinos purpose

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>>55084439
I forgot to take pics, but his assault squad charged in, killed maybe 1 genestealer, and then got fucking murdered, along with the last terminator and the landraider. I was feeling pretty good about things, and was confident I'd table him... until his landspeeders came in from reserves. His whirlwind fellback, so my genestealers were just out in the open, and got fucked hard. Going from losing all of 4 guys after several rounds of close fighting, I suddenly 6 stealers to a barrage of fire. This loses me the bonus attack for having 10 or more, and the next turn I fail to summon Might From Beyond. Out of command points, I just have to deal with it. I do kill all his sternguard with a smite, but the new landspeeders also make short work of my neophyte squad and wound my Magus. Everyone else gets killed hard, as well as my last chimera.

In the end, my patriarch kills one tactical squad, but is cornered by a lot of heavy fire. It's pretty rough, losing my cult's own L. Ron Hubbard, but they'll be back. The Magus gets finished as well, and it's an official tabling.

I got a better idea of a few things I messed up on, and should do better next time... in part because I'm going to buy 3 boxes of fucking genestealers and just have them pop out of vents and shit. Beyond that, I'll see if Nids or Guard get their codex first, I want to work on a much better thought out back up detachment (the nids I brought were really just some I had lying around, it's not really a planned out force). Good experience though.

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>>55084516
There isn't many reasons not to shove them in Rhinos; if you don't want to for whatever reason, then might be worth running them as a Renegade Chapter for Advance + Charge action.

>>55084537
I see. How should I kit out the Rhinos? Or is it better to leave them vanilla?

>>55084359
>>55084439
>>55084538
thanks for the report my man, they're always appreciated

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Imperial Agents Codex when?

>>55084549
keep em plain and few

>>55084564
when taco bell stops raping my asshole

>>55084492
Page 215, Matched Play Mission Rules, Tactical Reserves

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>>55082952
https://youtu.be/wNlshmAxzfo

Anybody got a scan of this book?

>>55084086
>IG #2
>tfw building up an Armored Regiment
I will wait for FW to release an Armored Battle Group codex so I can pretend to be a separate army as I field my Lemans and mechanized Veterans. I really want to know how many losses from tank heavy armies are hindering that win%.

>>55084584
good shit you found it but it still does not answer my question.
by the wording presented in a scenario where you have a odd number of units do you round up or down that is the question

Are custodes busted? They keep tabling everyone at the LGS with little to no effort

>>55084613
I can melt those Cheetos looking mother fuckers easily don't see the balance problem here

>>55084613
Describe the way the custodes play and what fights them.
>>55084618
Describe how you melt the cheetos.

>>55084605
Rounding has always been rounding up

>>55084537
What's wrong with Rhinos? Combi melta/ flamer and you get a tank that's still doing work while not getting one shotted

>>55084627
thats what my experienced player and best friend tells me through the years of playing but i feel that it has changed by the wording.
I need to be sure to make sure that I dont tell my
fellow gamers false information
>>55084623
I play scions so like 70 super plasma shots re-roll 1s with 12 lascannons between 10-20 autocannon like shots 20 ratlings and 60-364 strength 4 shots which ever you destroy turn 1 i still have options.
>>55084636
Rhinos are fine for the right job. But its very important know where to draw the line in terms of how many points you are willing to invest in transports at most i would put combi bolters on them

>>55084530
10 Tac Marines with a Plas and Las are only 8 points cheaper than 10 Intercessors with grenade lauchers, bro.

>>55084672
60-64*

>>55083707
Remember the fact that you're still just playing with glorified army men. Try and enjoy yourself a little anon.

>>55084542
Though questionable, Renegade Chapter + Warptime is a viable option as to get a potential first turn charge off.

>>55083755
According to a friendo, gauss is the way to go.

>>55083755
Always tesla honestly. Easy to get it triggering on 5-6.

>>55084564
What the fuck is that thing?

>>55084762
it's the imperial agents codex from 7th edition.

Is it a dick move to bring a FW knight into a 2,000pt game without notice?

I know it might be okay for a regular knight, but FW might throw some people off.

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>>55084684
Believe it or not, there's a happy medium between "pokerfaced cheating waacfag tourney list in pickup matches" and "low test ork playing autist that yells waaaaaagh every 5 seconds for no reason"

>>55084799

FW knights are basically anti tank and tough models only
Even the ones that should be anti horde are terrible at it
They're not even close to OP like a lot of other FW shit

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>>55084799
i fought this in a casul game and it turned out alright

>>55084814
FW shit is not OP.

Look at Corbax, complete shite.

>>55084817

Knights, especially FW ones, are incapable of effectively dealing with infantry.

>>55084820

I didn't claim it all is.

>>55084420
Considering my Nids trash Marines with Index-rules, I'm not all that annoyed

>>55084817
>2x 2d3 bs2+ S12 -3 D6 shots
Sucks to be any other vehicle ever.

>>55084828
LOL that is not true titanic feet can kill quite bit from what my guys went through

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>>55083438
Care to post your list for an all dread army?

>>55084828
>what is the Acheron
>what is 12 attacks in melee for most of them

>>55084849

They kill an average of about 3 space marines a turn
That's hilariously bad for so many points.

>>55084839

Yeah, I'm finding my SOB laugh at Primaris a lot. Exorcists and Meltaguns all over the place evaporate 2 wound guys like they didn't exist.

>>55082993
Can't you use your garage?

>>55084867

>>what is the Acheron
Very shit at what its meant to do

>>what is 12 attacks in melee for most of them
Terrible for the points, and the one being discussed gets 9

>>55084086
Tyranids solidly middle tier. Im happy

>>55084868
the person i played against miss played at the time looking at the profile
in our game hit on 2s with 12 attacks
my scions died 1 squad at a time
he also gave it the 6+ fnp from the warlord table which was also wronge

>>55083536
Listen to others advice, thin your paints but you still did an uncannily great job for your first time. Keep it up and you'll be a pro in a few months.

>>55084322
>>55084296
>>55084269
Salamanders do better with Tacticals. For everyone else Intercessors and/or Scouts are probably the way to go.

>>55084897

It sounds to me like he was cheating.
Nobody makes that many mistakes on accident.

>>55084891
tyranids won first at our tournament and we have some of the best players in our state so im not so sure

>>55084910
he was battlescribing its stats so i can understand why he got it wrong

>>55084920

Nah, nobody but a complete moron plays a model that expensive without any idea how it works.

>>55084933
lol damn

>>55084920
The stats in battlescribe are correct though, just sounds like he was retarded and using it's BS for it's WS, if he was even using the correct knight's stats.

>>55084948
yea he probably assumed the stats and got it wrong happens more often than you think

>>55083778
Adeptus Mechanicus, fuck yeah. I thought it might have been Grey Knights or Necrons at first, but AdMech killing the shit out of demons? That's the good stuff.

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>>55085001
lil bit, why?

>>55085013
Attack Bikes are ugly as fuck.

>>55085031
I C how many bikes?

>>55085001
Only if you're playing Dark Angels.

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>>55085031
FW bikes look better than both GW bikes and FW jetbikes.

>>55085056
Yes. I'm planning to get Outriders to use as my normal bikes regardless.

>>55085046
I play a 2nd founding Scars successor.

>>55085069
>>55085077
seems like you more money the problems dont let this change

>>55085056
Too bad you can't have any other driver besides MkIV.

>>55084086

>"Orks are top tier!" /40kg/

Anything other than boyz spam is shit tier, and that list falls apart completely against Imperial gun lines. Glad to see that there's others that see that 90% of the Ork index is hot garbage.

>>55085090
Hah. Well I'm only planning to have one squad of normal bikes. Spamming them isn't actually all that great in 8th and I'm not looking to be an exact copy of the Scars regardless.

>>55085133
then im ok with it

>>55085121

Walker spam isn't terrible either. But yeah, /tg/ really exaggerates how good orks are now. They're better than they were in 7th, but they were probably the worst army in the game in 7th.

>>55084586
Looks nice, but I got HH: Collected Visions as well as the Emperor's Will and Emperor's Might art books. Only a bit disappointed Might is just cover to cover space marines, while Will had all sorts of different factions.

>>55084461
Probably this:
https://www.frontlinegaming.org/2017/08/03/the-state-of-the-meta-v1-1/

>>55085148

Eh, I run walker spam. It's fantastic against some lists, and absolutely terrible against others.

Did a 3 game tournament yesterday at my FLGS.

Big Mek w/KFF

Morkanaut

Gorkanaut

3 Deff Dreads

4 Kans

4 Kans

Meka-Dread

First game was against Death Guard and I ran over the guy. Think I lost a Kan?

Second game was against Chaos and whilst it was a little bit closer, I still got a comfortable win. Lost the Morkanaut to a squad of Berserkers.

Third game was against Salamander space marines. I killed maybe 10 models, 7 of which were guardsmen. I got completely stomped. Did manage to kill Vulcan with two exploding Kans, which was hilarious for both of us, even though the game was well decided by that point.

And that's the thing about the list. It is hard countered by a lot of other lists out there.

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>>55085155
>49% winrate
Ehh, I'll take it.

>>55085179
This is why I'm tempted to try a Dreadknight or Dreadnaught list. Seems fun.

>>55085200

Oh it IS fun. You just need to be prepared to get absolutely destroyed vs certain lists.

Hell I took the same list against a Sisters army and 6 Penitant Engines wiped out three quarters of my army. It wasn't even close.

>>55085152
You got a scanner?

>>55084911
Ive played nids for quiteba while now. Through the ups and the downs. I just hope we never become the waac army of choice.

>>55083160
It looks crappy without the sigil on his back.
There's no point of converting easy-build miniatures everyone has, it's just incomplete and broken now.

>>55085270
No. Visions and Will can be found in one or the Mega links. That's where I got my digital copies quick reading. Might I have not been able to find anywhere.

>>55083209
use blue glaze or something on the sword, edge highlight the robes, and highlight the bone and paper

>you can field Khorne Lord of Skull with Gorestorm Cannon and Skullhurler for only 537pts

P good.

>>55084814
There's only a few genuinely OP FW units and most of them aren't any more OP than shit that's in the codexes/indexes.

Would you feel the need to warn your opponent that you were taking Bobby G? If not then bring anything short of a Titan without worrying about it.

Just make sure you have the rules with you. Don't be one of those faggots that mis-remembers the rules (accidentally or on purpose) and then perpetrates this myth of all FW being OP.

>>55085283
I was not implying that they are broken
just saying that with this new edition more armies then in previous editions are viable in pro play scenarios

>>55084232
It turns out that solid shooting, solid melee and psychic on everything in your army isn't terrible.

>>55084564
that kinda looks like a fatter, uglier much more trannier alternate reality version of myself
this makes me uncomfortable

>>55085319
Except no one brings shitty FW models, but rather the broken ones like Malefic Lords and whatever. It doesn't matter if only one in hundred FW models is OP, people will spam that one model.

>>55085319

>Would you feel the need to warn your opponent that you were taking Bobby G?

>>implying I would ever pull that shit on my opponent n the first place

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>>55083660
>I have literally nowhere to put all this shit.
Ikea or dollar store is your friend. Cheap shelves and boxes.

A little ingenuity goes a long way.

See this paint rack? Ikea desktop with some Alu extrusion screwed to it. Cost about $20.

>>55085337
Completely different to the OP codex models then?

>>55085303
I've never actually used glazes before but I'll see what I can do. The robes, parchment, and most of the bone is highlighted already but the lighting doesn't really show it, but maybe I need to hit it with a brighter highlight. Thanks for the tips.

>>55085193
>I drilled barrels in the wrong place
FUCK

>>55085367
figured they're like fallout laser guns?

>>55085360
Except people tend to use GW models for sake of using those models. FW ones are mostly realm of WAACfag spammers who bring dumbest shit.

Don't get me wrong, something like Magnus is just unfair, but with him i can't tell if other player is cheesing faggot or just a TSons fan. Someone who runs Malefic Lords is certainly a faggot, however.

>>55085378
>Except people tend to use GW models for sake of using those models. FW ones are mostly realm of WAACfag spammers who bring dumbest shit
If that were true then FW would have ceased to exist long ago considering the overwhelming majority of their units are garbage that people only buy because they're cool.

>>55085376
figured it would be like a quadrupole corralling charged particles.

Am I the only one disappointed that the Mechanicus Book is reusing the cover art from the Skitarii codex?

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>all the Ork boxes with multiple units in them come with stackable units and different characters
this pleases me
now if only we had a plastic warboss with options

>>55085411
I'm hoping that it doesn't show laziness on GW's part towards how they're handling the codex. Then again I'm also hoping that it's just a mock-up and they're keeping the actual art underwrap for one reason or another so I'm pretty well prepared to be disappointed.

>>55085291
Emperor's Will isn't in any mega, I just checked.

Any idea when White Dwarf subscribers get the new White Dwarf? Looking forward to the Necromunda leaks!

>>55085431
I mean, I would like it to be a mock-up, but is there any precedent for them doing that? IIRC they showed use the actual codex art when they revealed the space marines codex.

From what they said, we will be able to cram Mechanicus and knights into one army, which sounds like knights might get to benefit from Canticles, which makes me moist.

>>55083016
>what did you work on today
I don't know yet, I have a cupon worth 25$ for winning a small tournament yesterday. I play Chaos but I don't really know what I want to get.

>>55085462
I dunno, I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't a mock, the only reason I could think they would only show off a mock-up now is if there was something new on the cover that hasn't been revealed yet.

But really they're probably just going to re-use the old art, they already did it with the CSM codex.

>>55085491
Yeah, kind of a bummer.

But who knows, maybe we get canticles on our Knight Titans. That might be fun

>>55085503
The ability to repair them would be a plus, there will also probably be a stratagem or two specifically for them.

Need a new brush for fine detail like eyes etc. Using Citadel brushes as an example, should I aim for something along the lines of a S Layer brush? Also, what's the deal with the M Glaze brush?

>>55085443
>https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg!woowmQpJ
>Warhammer 40,000
>Background
>The Emperor's Will.pdf

>>55085537
Also, follow up question; are the Citadel artificer brushes any good or should I just stick to another brand?

>>55085545
Weird, didn't come up when I searched it.

>>55085552
You can get better elsewhere.

>>55083778
Where's this from? Seems like Sicarians have been pretty badass in the lore lately, they were ripping up Iron Hands in Eye of Medusa and now they're owning Daemons.

>>55085605
Legions of the Omnissiah painting guide. It's the painting guide from 7e. There's a surprising amount of lore in the painting guides.

>>55083059
but you cant use ogryns with kriegers, anon.

>>55085636
You can use any Imperial unit with Kriegers. They just can have the Krieg regiment.

>>55085645
"just can't have"

>>55085552
>>55085537
You want a 00 or 000 Kolinsky Sable brush.

>>55083707
like how space marine babies yell "FOR THE EMPERAAHHHH!!!" every couple of minutes

>>55085666
>>55085552
>>55085537
To add to that Winsor & Newton is a good major brand of brushes for Kolinsky Sable that you can fine just about anywhere.

>>55085645
still, you cant have stuff from different subfactions in the same army without losing stuff like traits and stratagems

>>55085702
Sure you can. They just need to be in different detachments.

>>55085214
I feel like my idea of using Space Wolves is a good idea. 145 points for a Ven Dread with a Giant Axe and a Storm Shield, backed up by Mortis Dreads.

>>55085666
>>55085679
Thanks, I'll see if I can get a hold of some here in Sweden
If I don't have any hobby stores, where else should I look? Bookstore has quite a few but not sure if they're of a good quality or not

>>55085673
Or mumble the emperor protects under their breath. Shit is pretty creepy stop that guys.

>>55085673
Literally never happens IRL unlike waaaghs.

>>55085741
As in, other than hobby stores, where can I find quality brushes? Is online my best bet?

>>55085742
Wish all these faggots would play space sharks because then their warcry would be silence.

what HQ should I use to lead my custards? anything out there that synergizes nicely with my ultramarines?

>>55085378
I just love Sicarans and Rapiers.

>>55085378
>FW ones are mostly realm of WAACfag spammers who bring dumbest shit.

My army is literally pure GW units, but all using FW parts or models.

>>55085762
Girlyman, pretty much the only thing that helps them out
gives your +2 to hit rerolls and buffs your smurfs

>>55085785
wait he is a LoW nvm

>>55085712
You opened a new real of possibilities anon, thank you

>>55085785
>>55085800
girlyman is pretty much the only thing that affects custards in any way since everyone else just has <Chapter>, <Regiment> etc. buffs, while Rowboat gives <Imperium> rerolls
but since he isnt HQ, Marneus, Sicarius or just a generic captain I guess

>>55085465
Okay I guess I'll just start a new army
How do I start craftworlds? The SC! box doesn't look as tempting as others.

>>55085748
I've heard that way more often than an ork war cry. Last time I heard a WAAAAGH was prolly around 2008. Imperial players are the most autistic they just make up a large player base so it's overlooked. Check your hooman privilege m8.

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Possessed are cool. Aside from the Word Bearers, are there any Legions or Warbands that make use of them extensively?

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>>55085758
The world would be a better place with more sharks anyway.

>>55085859
space sharks are for edgy teens fuck off

I have 20 tactical marines (monopose stuff from starter sets and a second edition metal marine) and one captain painted with a shitty minotaur color scheme, any suggestion on what i should do with them?

>>55085854
Only the black legion really, maybe iron warriors with their whole demon infested torture womb marines...

>>55085588
>You can get better elsewhere
Like what exactly?

>>55085552
The artifice brushes are great but they're re badged Winsor & Newton series 7 - you can get the same brush much cheaper.

>>55085753
If you're a burger then Michael's anytime there's a sale or a coupon (which is pretty much all of the time).

>>55085863
>Anything 40k
>Grimdark
>edgy teens
Duh don't be stupid you bald cunt.

>>55085762
I use Celestine and Inquisitors; they're the best fitting in terms of aesthetics snd designs

Is GW doing anything special for the 30th anniversary like they did for the 25th?

>>55085899
LIMITED EDITION POWER FIST PRIMIRIS(tm).

>>55085873
>they're re badged Winsor & Newton series 7
Cool, thanks

>>55085881
I live in a relatively small town in southern Sweden, are sable hair brushes only available in higher-quality stores or could I potentially find them by just going store-to-store and checking if they have them?

>>55085867
Iron Warriors arent for me, and I know a guy that plays them anyway so it'd feel a bit weird to start up a force of them. Black Legion are a possibility though.

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>>55083016
I finally started to paint something, working on these 9 Nobz + Banner Nob

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>>55085730

Ah, forgot you weren't talking about Orks.

Yes one of the crucial differences is that an Imperial walker list has a) firepower, b) the potential for invulnerable saves. Hence it would be far mor-

> 145 points for a Ven Dread with a Giant Axe and a Storm Shield

Hold on a second. Hold the fuck up. 145 points. One of my Deff Dreads with 4 power klaws is 149 points. I'm actually going to look up what this comparison is.

Holy fucking shit.

So the Venerable hits on 2+ instead of 3+, has the same strength with a Fenrisian Great Axe, has -4 AP instead of -3 and does D6 dmg instead of a flat 3. Oh, and it gets Chapter Tactics, a 3++ invul save and on a 6 it ignores wounds its taken.

The Dread gets one more attack and can reroll failed charges. No invul. For 4 points more.

I'm honestly speachless right now. I knew Deff Dreads were bad but this is almost hilariously bad.

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Did anyone else's GW give out cards to fill out for Konor? Any idea what they're for?

>>55086000
customer feedb-HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>55086008
No they're asking if the army was painted and stuff.

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>>55086018
It's for the points that 'steer the fluff'.

Are kai guns still a thing? is there a CSM chapter where I can give the HQ one?

>>55085358
I thought the brush rack blocking your monitor was bad, but then I noticed that that blocked monitor is more thoroughly blocking your other active monitor behind it.
Otherwise, decent set up.

>>55086033
Not really. Deamon Princes can take "Warp Bolters" and most other Chaos characters has access to combi-weapons.

>>55085929
I guess you just need to ask around. Failing that you've always got amazon.

>>55086064

My bad, misread it. It's only equally as good at carving up armour as the Dread.

>>55086053
That's not a monitor at the back, it's a full scale blueprint of the smaller millennium falcon studio model.

I do need to re-hang it.

>>55086033
>kai guns

shit man, I forgot all about those, they were great for a shooty daemon prince

>>55085378
>t. poorfag

>>55085411
The last two also recycled their previous covers, and one of them was from 6th ed

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>>55086000
They give me some Pokémon badges

>>55086033
Yes, basically, in as much as a 'warp bolter' is basically one.

>>55085854
afaik crimson slaughter use them massively

but better check that i aint sure

>>55085983
Basically, I'm tweaking it but the 2000 point list is 4-5 Venerables, 3-4 Mortis Dreads (have missiles right now but may swap that out), and I'm trying to fit in both the chaplain dread, and both SW character dreads.

I may or may not model them as like Squats too, not sure right yet.

>>55085378
"FW is waacfag"
suuure, my death korps are the most OP think ever

they dont have conscripts
they dont have pask
they dont have mobile artyllery
they dont have first rank fire second rank fire
they dont have reroll 1's

>>55086367
Except that they can have those things in another detachment.

OMFG FW is so OP!

>>55086379
>play SoB
>bring OoP Repressor
Fucking WAAC!

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>>55086404
I sometimes field two of these! What a prick!

>>55086421
tanklet with just an autcannon who can infiltrate


whats bad about it?

>>55086367
"FW is waacfag"
suuure, my elysians are the most OP thing ever

they don't have conscripts
they don't have tanks
they don't have artillery
they don't have autocannon and lascannon HWT
they don't have vehicles outside of a shitty drop sentinel and a paper mache dune buggy
they don't have anything worth using FRFSRF on
they don't get HWT in basic infantry squads
they don't get any infantry characters aside from company/platoon commanders, officer of the fleet and lord commisar
they don't have even 1 named character
they don't get LOW
they can't use LOW

>>55086432
It's FW! Obviously I'm a WAACfag. I mean, that's the only reason anyone takes FW right? People take shitty GW units just because but FW is WAAC all day, every day.

See
>>55085378

>call FW fags out
>they chimp out
>"waaaah my conscript spam is not as good waaaah"

wew

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>>55086346
Thats true, but I'm not a huge fan of them. I think at this stage I'll either run Word Bearers or look up the list of minor warbands to see if any fit, or make up my own snowflake warband I guess.

>>55086458
>conscript spam
>SoB
Oh BOI!

>>55086449
they get to drop 10 krak grenades

>>55086458
it's not like you need FW minis to conscript spam though

>>55086449
Aren't Mauraders LoW?

Also, they do have that grenade assault thing yeah?