/aosg/ Age of Sigmar General

>>55079914
tried converting the epub, either got error from online converters or is still hanging at 47% on calibre.... epub is the worst format...

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n'th for skaven are still playable, so quit your bitching

>>55079914
How easily can you swap between the slaughterbrute and horses in a chaos chariot, do you need magnets or are their holes for it to go in flush

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Is there any fun last stand missions for Skirmish? Was planning my next little collection would be a Slaves to Darkness Skirmish army and would love to emulate something like down below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5enBMSH5ghc

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BUT MY SPECIFIC SNOWFLAKE SUB FACTION DOESNT HAVE ENOUGH UNITS OR A BOOK YET
REEEEEEEEEEE

I don't like the Dragon Zombie head. Is there an alternative that fits the rotting dragon aesthetic?

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That's the stuff I'm gonna buy for sure for Seraphon.
What should I pick next to make a 1000pts list as budget as possible? Another start collecting? The Oldblood on foot, 10 more warriors and 5 more knights would round this list to exactly 1000pts but I don't know if it is a good way to build a seraphon list.
Also I'm buying the skinks box mainly for skirmish so If they are shit I can drop them and buy few models separately and free up additional 120 points on the list

Heroes
Saurus Oldblood on Carnosaur (280)
- General
Skink Starpriest (80)

Battleline
20 x Skinks (120)
10 x Saurus Warriors (100)
5 x Saurus Knights (100)

680/1000

>>55080054
>Is there any fun last stand missions for Skirmish?
Well, there is a battleplan with "raid the enemy camp and kill the general to win" mission. Also you can use the GHB battleplans for skirmish

Clanrats - spears or swords? or hyper tiny magnets to be able to swap?

>>55080210
swords, much better odds of actually hitting with em, but having a division of spears is good to back the swordrats up because of weapon reach.

>>55080210
If you are using the Spire of Dawn ones there is no need to use magnets. Also you should use spears. Personally, I used to put blades on <30 model units but now I'm always using spears

epub is cancer, could someone post the siege rules?

Reminder that when the next Death faction comes out, it will be undead stormcast.

Then the next chaos faction after that will be chaos stormcast.

>>55080210
Spears for large units. Swords for skirmish. Ignore >>55080223

>>55080446
define large?

>>55080135
Another SC would be fine, but a Temple Guard box is 300 points for 55USD, which would bring you to 980 points. A bigger Warrior and Knight block might be better though, but I'm not sure.
Also it's just a personal choice, but I like Priests more than Starpriests. I'm sure you can use the same model for either so it's up to you. I just love their save rerolls, even if it's somewhat unreliable.

>mfw the Dracothion = Sotek meme is finally dead

PRAISE SOTEK.
PRAISE TZUNKI
PRAISE QUETZL
PRAISE TLAZCOATL
PRAISE CHOTEC
PRAISE HUANCHI
PRAISE TEPOK
PRAISE ITZL

>>55080446
cancer

>>55080458
Generally more than 10.

>>55080529
Swords are only good on plague monks.
>>55080458
Well now that the min size is 20, always. Used to be that you could take 10 for 60 points. In 10 man throw away squads, you just arm em with swords. Otherwise you want to get as many attacks as possible with clanrats

>>55080446
Uhh, not to be that guy, but why are spears better? They hit for shit...

>>55079914
Has anyone converted the ghb2 to pdf yet? This epub sucks and conversions don't seem to be working

>>55080526
What's this ratspeak??!?
It's spelled "Tlazcotl", don't you forget it.
He's the best of them all.

>>55080172
Don't have the GHB2 yet but I'll have a check. Cheers.

>>55080661
Damn. It's hard to remember them all lad. They disappeared so so so long ago.

Is getting into this game as death player a farce or should I just play order or some shit?

>>55080601
They're not too bad, plus that way you get a lot more attacks, which works nicely with the warlords ability

>>55080710
hmm, well i guess i'll try it sometime. Im still fairly new to the game

>>55080749
Yeah, I thought the same when I was starting.

> place a single order for $60 worth of paint

where did my life go wrong

>>55080816
You didn't go for triple figures. Shame on you.

So are Chaos Chosen worth it now? They were over costed before.
Is it better to
1. get Chosen
2. More warriors for the points
3. Or Minotaurs?

Can someone give me a list of a good 1000 point beastmen army that works with the new GH2 rules?

So basically High Elves get shafted even more? Everyone else got new allegiance abilities. Not only is our army split into 5 different subfactions, but the core units have been removed. No spearmen, archers, or silverhelms.

Your pdf.

https://mega.nz/#!C5BSgTDK!Sx74f87D86frlU0NZ1XKyGP0WEgar52X1Hatj1OA5y0

Enjoy!

>No elves yet
>No death dudes yet
>No slaanesh yet

Well fuck.

>>55081424
use order grand alliance and stop complaining.
You can mix all the units you want and still use the Order command traits and artefacts

>>55081478
>No slaanesh
>just got allegiance abilities and artefacts
>all of the slaves to darkness units, plus deamonettes and hellstriders.
>needing more than that

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So this was just shown on the GW site. Is this a reprint or a new book?
They are actually talking about old fluff?
What did they mean by this?

>‘The Legend of Sigmar’ by Graham McNeill is the first title to be branded “Warhammer Chronicles”. This range of books sees tales from Warhammer Fantasy Battles brought back into print, giving new readers a chance to experience some of the greatest sagas of the World That Was – many of which have a lot of relevance to the Age of Sigmar.

>‘The Legend of Sigmar’ is the perfect example, showcasing the early years of the warrior who became a king, and then a god: Sigmar himself. The novels in the omnibus – ‘Heldenhammer’, ‘Empire’ and ‘God King’ – chart his early life and show how he united warring tribes into the mighty Empire. It’s a fascinating look at times that are now only a myth in the Mortal Realms.

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>>55079914
Soon

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>>55081506
Honestly, you're not wrong. The only thing to complete that would be a plastic keeper.

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So it's pretty much confirmed that pestilens are going to be tailored to skaven rather than nurgle (can't ally with rotbringers or mortals). Maybe we'll see pestigors soon

>>55081630
Fulgrim as the snake deamon will be coming out soon so you can convert one from him

>>55081698
>assuming we won't have a TS style release with a plastic KoS and (for 40k) a primarch

>>55081592
Reprint.

#2 is Rise of Nagash by Mike Lee
#3 is Vampire Wars: The Von Carstein Trilogy by Steven Saville
#4 is The Sundering by Gav Thorpe

All reprints.

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>>55081681
>skaven clans can only ally with skaven
It's truest glorious to be vermin-kin

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>>55081441

Can I somehow add my purchase of the physical GH2017 to the app? I'd like to be able to pull the Allegiance Abilities onto the app but it says only available with purchase of the book then takes me for the digital download

>>55081441
You're a god amongst mortals

>>55081681
Can't they just take the Nurgle Allegiance since they have the Nurgle keyword on their wascrolls?

>>55080816
I've rejoined the game after a long hiatus and pretty much all the money I've spend has been on paints lol

>>55081424
The implication may be that high elves/highborn could be getting a battletome sometime between now and the next GHB.

>>55081261
>Allegiance: Warherd
>Battalion: Bullgor Stampede x2
>Doombull x2
>3x3 Bullgor x2
>Ghorgon x2

There. Enjoy your 22-model 2kpts exactly army of rapists.

>>55082005
Oh whoops, you said 1k. Well just go with half of that. Enjoy your 11-man gangrape.

stormvermin have the ability: "clanshields: You can add 1 to the save roll for a unit with Clanshields against attacks that have Damage 1." and the description says SOME units of stormvermin carry clanshields.

Is there any reason you would NOT want them to have shields?The models dont come with shields, so how are you supposed to add them to get it?

>>55081478
Dude, Vampire Counts are back

>>55082023
There's literally no downside to using shields. Also what? The kit should come with too many shields for the amount of models you can make.

>>55082005
>>55082018
Going to piggyback off this comment to let you know that this army is only a rape train IF IT ATTACKS FIRST. Seriously, I've straight up spent turns doing nothing to draw people close enough and then counter attacked them with rapebulls.

>>55082113

im just lookin at pictures of the models, none of them in use have shields

>>55081441
And under 100mb, too! You a good man, anon-san!

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>>55079914
Rune Guardians when?

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So who is this Lord Pha?

>>55082123
ur stoopid

>>55082123
Well the kit comes with 20+ shields for the 20 guys. You lose nothing for equipping shields.

So can someone write me a quick summary about balance in GH17?
What's op, what's good, what's meh, what's bad, what's unplayable.

>>55082197
But majority of arms are twohanding the halberd, making it awkward to add a shield

>>55082139
Slann are usually named Lords. One of the artefacts Seraphon can get is from Hysh (and is one of the few good ones they get ffs).

Also can any Order/Destruction/Death/Chaos force take from the same named warlord traits etc or do they HAVE to take from their specific thing? I haven't read it yet fully.

What do people think about the new Fyreslayer stuff? I think that it makes them much more viable than they were before. The point drop combined with the allegiance abilities look pretty sick. I'm looking at the new mega battalions that you can make and the Vostarg Lodge looks really sick. The only thing that I'm not sure about is the point of having the Lords of the Lodge battalion. With the new rule of one stating that you can't modify the turn order dice roll it seems pretty useless to have as a battalion. Does anyone know if they're going to change that up at all?

>>55081441
you majestic hero

Question what program are people reading the epub of the Generals handbook with cause it has not worked with any of the programs I have used so far

>>55082783
Readium.

>>55082788
>Readium
thanks

>>55082490
So either just say they have them..or slap the shields onto the sides of their arms/on their backs.

>>55079914
Out of curiosity:My take on AOS is such: WHFB had 30 year old great fluff. Age of Sigmar has questionable fluff at best. I've finally made enough money in my life where I can buy models and do hobby stuff.

Why should I invest in AOS?

>>55082371
There are three type of armies in the current meta: ranged, hordes, and elites. Ranged are almost entirely Order and focus on shooting. They are countered by hordes. Hordes focus on drowning opposition, and obsec. They are countered by elites, which are usually cavalry and often have a rule that lets them do D3 damage/attack. Unlike 40K, wounds can spill over to other models, which is why they counter hordes. They are checked by ranged units. This is a very brief overview, but it's what I've seen as most common.

>>55082812
If you like the game. Cause I like the game but not the fluff.

>>55082812
Essentially. If the most important part for you is the fluff, read the books for the setting you like, in this case the old WHFB books.. If you like playing a wargame, choose the game and army with models you like. That's all it really is,

>>55082832
>>55082838
ah. Well then I guess I understand if you just like the game. I was rather saddened that just when I started to be able to pay off my student debt, and afford luxuries in life the world of warhammer fantasy was gone.

The world seemed rich with descriptions of jungles of the new world teaming with lizardmen or the harsh land of norsica.

That being said I'm glad that you enjoy AOS and bear players no grudges. I wish I could be into it however. WHFB looked really cool.

I hope Soulblight gets some foot vamps some time.

>>55082882
I wish they had just done what they did with 40k. Remade the rules. But kept the setting.

>>55082882
Luckily for you WHFB lore isn't going anywhere. At least they did a hard reboot so that the lore didn't get mixed with the questionable AoS stuff. It's too bad that the game itself is pretty dead, but it wasn't that popular before it died anyway.

>>55082882
There's nothing stopping you from playing a game with armies that existed during WHFB and fluffing the fight as happening in the old world.

ALL STAR STREAM ON RIGHT NOW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU4t83cCDaM

Kharadrons aren't looking as appealing now that thunderers are stuck with only one of each special weapon for every 5, are they stuck spamming endrinriggers now? Had a 2k list ready to go and now its just garbage so I'm back to square one planning it out...

>>55082978
>dat faces
Dear lord

>>55082978
That's a lot of people happy to field a rape army (Beastmen)

Disciples of tzeentch a good first army anons? Love the models. Wish they got some heavy infantry of some kind though.

>>55083001
They actually have new abilities that sync up pretty well. Hits with one weapon buff the next, that weapon buffs the next, and the cannon then gets to re-roll hits and wounds.

It's not the best situation now that mortars got reduced to 12"..but at least they didn't actually get that 40 point increase

>>55083058
yea they're pretty nuts, i don't think youd regret starting with them. They are very flavorful and have a lot of fun rules and interactions.

>>55083025
>you will never be on a stream for 2+ hours discussing the generals handbook with your m8s

Also all those guys are married and some have kids. Id say you are judging prematurely

>>55083060
I'm almost feeling like I would have prefered that instead, although I'm probably just being a little bitter at the moment

>>55083058
They're extremely versatile. They have 9 pre-rolled dice you can sub in whenever you want. Need to take a battleshock test? Sub your 1s or 2s. They have Pink Horrors and Tzaangors, some of the best units in the game. Blue Scribes can cast spells on 2+ and enemy wizards must get 9+ to unbind them. Gaunt Summoners can delete 2 horde units per turn, but they have terrible melee stats so mount them on a Balewind Vortex.

>>55083082
>and some have kids.
I would say their wifes have kids.

>>55083087
You wouldn't have. It was a 40 point increase AND all these changes.

So nurgle is next in getting his big book correct? Anyone know the rumors of what's next after the plague father's kids?

>>55083139
oh, yea that would have been horrible. Well hopefully down the road they change them back.

>>55083175
I actually think the changes are alright. Things they could have done better would have been to leave mortars at 36" or at the very least, make Thunderers a battleline unit. Company are alright, but you could really turn Kharadron into a more elite army by replacing those with squads of tougher and more powerful gunners.

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>>55083152
Nurgle is next
Then Undead Stormcast for the death GA
Then Chaos Stormcast for Chaos GA
Then Dwarf Stormcast for Order
The Ogor Stormcast for Destruction

Source: my dad works for gw

>>55079914
spent 5 hours trying to convert the epub to pdf, calibre still stuck at 47%. Anyone have a pdf version of ghb2 instead of this epub cancer?

>>55083199
Is it wrong that Chaoscast kinda sounds neat? Like the 40k equivalent of marines falling to chaos

AOS should stay the hell away from making the whole thing about 1 specific faction th-..oh wait..too late.

>>55083230
nevermind, thank you anon [ >>55081441 ]

>>55083235
Chaos Marines are terrible though. Making the evil faction just a spikier version of the heroic faction is extremely limiting.

>>55083199
So no Cthulhu Elf Stormcast?

>>55079914
Where can I find the stats of units? I tried downloading the skaven pdf and it only lists like 3 things....

>>55083352
GW and FW have unit scrolls on their online stores

>>55083352
the old skaven pdf showed all stats of skaven units, but seems like the new one is like 4 pages long... maybe GW is updating them and havent released it yet??? I dunno dude

>>55079914
Has the ghb2 only changed point values or have actual stats and abilities been changed as well?

>>55083235
Because what the setting really lacked was massive plate-armour-wearing worshippers of chaos . . .

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New to Sigmar and I'm currently collecting Sylvaneth. Got a question about pic related:

>comes with 3 scenic bases

Does that mean that there's 9 individual trees in the box, letting you set up 3 full wyldwoods? I've been looking around and I couldn't find a clear answer.

>>55083469
If you ask a Stormcast player the setting lacks guys in massive plate armor. I for one think it lacks a book that lets all the rats ally together as they literally would do..

>>55083535
Link? Cant find it on their site

>>55083535
There's two different tree kits. Citadel Woods is one tree kit. 1 base and three trees to go on it. Sylvaneth Wyldwoods is 3 bases and 9 trees...or simply it's 3 citadel woods kits.

>>55083618
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Sylvaneth-Wyldwood-Bundle

It's under scenery on their site

>>55083642
Thanks anon!

everyone bitchin that verminus clawpacks are gone, but are they? its still up on the app

>>55083746
The new GHB doesn't include them and the newly updated FAQ and army points don't include them either. Alongside that they combined a lot of special characters into generic heroes.

>>55083591
I forgot when the Skaven were super friendly and definitely weren't constantly scheming against one another.

>>55083860
They still scheme against each other, but the Great Horned Rat told them to knock that shit out and conquer everything. So they work together again, but still sometimes stab-kill each other.

>>55080062
I, too, call anyone who complains about having to buy Stormcast, Chaos, or Steamdwarves to have fun a fucking autist!

So, how are Soulblight, Deathrattle, Wanderers, and Beastmen now?

>>55083998
>So, how are Soulblight, Deathrattle, Wanderers, and Beastmen now?
Utter shit, just like the others legacyarmies

>>55081441
Love you, anon.

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So how good are the Freeguild now? I heard they got all sorts of new rules and they brought back the detachment system with GH2.

Also, would Warlord's Landsknechts Pikemen work well as Freeguild Guard?

>>55084032
>Also, would Warlord's Landsknechts Pikemen work well as Freeguild Guard?
Nope

>>55081954
They totally can. So no need for nurgle allies.

>>55083998
Wanderers are still a difficult army, but the new abilities help them out a lot. Sadly, this comes at the cost of Warhawk Riders and Waywatchers (and some other stuff, but those are the ones that actually hurt to lose), which more or less boils down to 'two steps forward, one step back'.

>>55084007
I don't think you understand what legacy army means.

>>55084062
I thought the same...

>>55084062
Armies without battletomes. Now, when new GHB released it's pretty clear that they wouldn't be supported in the future.

>>55084088
No.
Legacy armies are the compendium armies. Not old Armies.
Wood Elves are legacy. The Empire is legacy.
Wanderers and Free Peoples are not.

>>55084092
>Wanderers and Free Peoples are not.
They are, they wouldn't get any support or updates.

>>55084102
They just GOT support and updates a day ago...

Holy shit the app is a complete mess of warscrolls. It really needs a cleanup.

>>55084109
>GOT support
That's why they even more shityy against battletomes armies?
Also
>no characters
>no magic
>no artillery
>no cavalry
>no shooting

asked yesterday but didnt get any responses... havent checkedthe book out yet, wanted to know how kurnoth hunters and the rest of sylvaneth are looking now before i start an army?

>>55084114
ha, you didn't saw it before the update yesterday, did you?

>>55084120
kunoth hunter go up in points - surprise
almost everything else's gone down
BUT all battalions are +100-200% so no artefact spam

>>55081722
O SHIT

IT'S SKAVEN TIME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9mOw31cqAs

IN GRIND WE CRUST

It was less messy. Now it looks like they tried to clean it up, but gave up halfway after adding a bunch of repeated warscrolls, like luminark with mage on top.

>>55084120
Check out the fucking book.

>>55084120
Drycha also doesn't hurt allies with her bees now, spite and tree revs are both 80 points and battleline as well.

>>55084118
Stop mixing up compendium Empire with aos Free Peoples. Those are different things.

>>55084152
There is a Host of Slaanesh and Hosts of Slaanesh factions.

>>55084178
I mean we 3ven got the hammerhead colours scheme. Free guild are guardsmen on aos

>>55084168
damn
really helpful
i'm guessing you didn't have an answer but had to have a snark anyway

How are FCE? They are kinda legacy but with a twist, repacked and all, but only old models....

>>55084235
How the fuck are they legacy? They have a battletome, got new units in AoS (after a fashion), and now have allegiance abilities.

>>55084235
Who are FCE?

>>55084319
Frostcast Eternals. The new Beastclaw Raider Stormcast faction.

>>55083235
Chaos warriors already exist retard

>>55084319
Methinks he meants FEC - Flesh-Eater Courts.

>>55081441
Not the anon we deserve, but the anon we need.

>>55084032
Of all factions that didn't need to be buffed it was non-compendium free guild

Instead they got significantly improved on every front with their battletrait and horde discounts

They're pretty good

And I think those models will work fine

>>55084221
Not that anon, but the PDF's right here. Go find out for yourself.
>>55081441

>>55081506
>>55081630
Slaanesh needs a battalion, now that he lost the one in the compendium.

>>55084032
they would if you exclusively used historical truescale miniatures, otherwise no

'member when scrollbuilder.com was independent and updated quickly?

Thanks GW.

>>55083082
Fucking hell, calm down sir Lancelot.

>>55084480
Shit nigga, put those first grade math skills to use.

>>55079914
Have statlines changed at all, or is it just points?

Right, whose planning on using the realm rules for matched play?I find em fun and always wanted to use em before but never wanted to carry the heavy books around.

Is a grave guard army viable now? I know they can be battle line for death rattle so are they viable for a more elite skeleton army?

Elves fucking when

>>55084706
No ranged and no arty but yeah, possibly viable. Stick'em behind the general and a BSB and they'll probably be pretty hard to move.

>>55084729

Fucking never, KYS.

>>55084734
My tactic is two big block of grave guard. A few black Knights and some allied Necro for buffing with shield and danse

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Can't fucking believe this, my centre piece models is fucked...Is this a mistake or something? Why did they have to change the strike the runes ability to effect only himself? Did they know that he is 1" movement and can't run or charge? "I'm gonna stand here and be a brick but it's okay I've got re-rolls to hit and +1 save!" Unbelievable.. I know for one thing that the keywords were a mistake because they are still in disposessed in Azyr along with the updated names and scrolls. Just extremely butthurt over the shit job they did to update the characters, I was even happy with the generic names, I just wanted to use his cool rules and the done fucked it up

>>55084619
Realm rules are for Narrative games.
Some of them could work in matched play, other can not.

>>55084754
GG cost double of skeletons, and rez only d3. Knights sre ok if you run 10's. Impossible to shift and not bad at the charge. WK for extra attacks and banner save, necro for dance and shield.

>>55084706
No ranged, no good spells. Grave guard over priced bad saves, shield is irrelevant now nearly everything does rend. No more 5+ ward save. All death is pretty much a farce. Borecast, chaos or bust.

>>55084802
>No more 5+ ward save

Isn't that still in as death allegieance?

>>55084802
Hordes generally have no rend

>>55084802
FEC and soulblight seem fine

Not everything is shooting

>>55084802
Soulblight seem super strong now ring of regeneration is back. Just load it on a dragon lord and take the dragon warriors allegieance and steamroll both hordes and shoot you armies

A question regarding Demon Princes and the Allies system;

If I were to play a Khorne list, they can take StD allies, which a Demon Prince qualifies as, which would make my list 100% legal upon creation. Now the Demon Prince doesn't receive his Mark until setup, so would I be able to give him a Tzeentch mark and still have my Khorne list be legal, as a work-around for not being able to take Tzeentch units themselves as allies?

Also, If I'm able to take a Tzeentch-Marked Demon Prince, would I then be able to summon tzeentch demons legally, since you don't have to state exactly whats in your summoning pool upon List creation?

>>55084925
Would work but seems complicated for little return

>>55084178
>with aos Free Peoples.
And AoS free people aren't the army, it's just a npc. waiting for proper release.

>>55084925
maybe idk

but you could also get around it by taking a CHAOS list instead of a KHORNE list

>>55084863
As a Soulblight player, I've spent the last day laughing at all the people BAWW-ing over their Battalion price increases. It's like someone whinging about their Lamborghini's monthly payments going up when over here I'm using the same beaten-up but reliable old pickup that I always have.

>>55084829
No it's a 6+ now 6" or anywhere from general>>55084886

>>55084981
Except that beat up pickup has suddenly turned into an Abrahams battle tank.

Blood Knights + bat swarms + mounted Necromancer + regen lord is utterly fucking unstoppable

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>>55084925
No. Mark Keywords are selected in list creation.

Looking at starting up a Lizardmen force. Never played AoS but been playing 40K since 2007, have 10,000+ points of painted Orks so I'm ready for a bit of a change. Plus my daughter loves dinosaurs so i figured it was a good fit.

What's a good place to start and eventually to aim for? I want to focus on the dinosaurs; is this viable? How does the army play? Start collecting a good place to start?

>>55085009
You start with your frogman since your allegiance abilites kinda assume you have one

>>55084863
Only all the good armies, tzeentch, bcr, borecast, tree people and friends army and now buffed free guild

>>55084994
Didn't Mounted Necromancer just have the the Soulblight keyword stripped?

>>55085019
Take them as allies

>>55084994
What are your ideas on taking Swift Death for flying M12 knights? Is the mobility worth the lack of killing power or staying power of Dragon Warriors and Lords of the Night?

>>55085024
He doesn't have any of the Keyword required for allying.

Trying to rebuild my Flesh Eater Courts army for the 2017 pointvalues.

Currently I have: (old points / new points if changed)
1 x Crypt Haunter (120)
1 x GK on Terrorgheist (400)
1 x GK (100 / 120)
6 x Crypt Horrors (280 / 320)
3 x Crypt Horrors (140 / 160)
3 x Crypt Flayers (160)
20 x Crypt Ghouls (200)
20 x Crypt Ghouls (200)
1 xTerrorgheist (320 / 300)
Abattoir Battalion (60 / 110)

So now I'm at 2090 points thanks to the nerfs to horrors and the battalion. Should I cut 10 ghouls for a unit of 20 and a unit of 10? Or maybe cut the unit of 3 horrors and instead pump one ghoul unit to 40 (360 pts) and reduce the other to 10 (resulting in 1990 pts)?
I don't want to switch to massive ghoul swarms and patrol battalion.

>>55084886
How and what is the ring of regeneration a thing? It's not in the soul blight allegiance any where. I used 20 blood knights. Vampire on abyssal terror with Manfred on horse on a balewind last night (before I knew it was shit canned) with swift death blood line, blood fury trait, and Sigil of the Sanguine throne.
Against a storm cast army of 2 fulminators, hammer cloak, celestant on dracoth, the trumpet guy, the lantern guy and then rets, Libs and their standard archers. The SC guy decimated me and than an army of big blocks of ogors, shotgun ogors, butcher and some other standard ogor hero. Each of us took 1500 pts each the storm cast guy still had 10 archers 2 fulminators celestant on dracoth left.

>>55079914
>https://mega.nz/#!aVgH0LBD!g3e7_lDyZg2UYI6uuUw8-DLpZ_zZfp7YD-hSM6bzqaU

the new general's handbook link is no longer valid, can anyone provide?

>>55085095
Check the artifacts bro also take blood dragons and use some fucking bats

>>55084994
Who the fuck is regen lord?

>>55085095
>Using an elite army that favors it's mobility
>better use an overpriced character on terrain

>>55085071
It has deathmages

>>55085122
Ring of regeneration on a Vampire lord

>>55085041
Not worth it desu

Knight are fast enough. You want them killy

>>55085123
Shoots 2 spells 1 D3 + mortal on everything 6" + D3 mortals 36" for 260 points plus is Manfred as good as your going to get with soulblight for shooting borecast characters. Now invalid of course thanks to delet Manfred scroll

>>55085114
The Slaking Blade
The Scabbing Plate
Crimson Wing
Sigil of the Sanguine Throne
The Saccharine Goblet
Ruby Vial

Which one's the ring of regeneration?

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>mfw im putting manfred onto my zombie dragon to cause grognard butthurt

>>55085159
Why the fuck are you trying to shoot them?

>>55085145
It's funny, yesterday in the first post-release thread everyone was going "Swift Death is the clear winner. Everything else is trash."

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>>55085129
Are you talking about one of these?

>>55085168
Shitposting aside, that's an amazing image

my list is no longer valid unver ghb 2017

thanks gw

>>55085195
Buy an actual army

>>55085182
Because people don't know how to play anything besides hordes and shooting

Blood Knights are swift as fuck as is and have easy anti range with bat swarms

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>>55085114
Are you talking about this the ring of immortality? In the general death abilities?? Ok I suppose then you miss out on the blood lines

>>55085127
I stand corrected.

>>55085182
Swift death doesn't even buff vargiests does it?

>>55085202
they had pitched battle profiles under ghb1 and now they don't even have warscrolls

I don't understand why they would do this

>>55085208
Oh I guess I was mistaken

Still it's not super vital to soulblight

>>55082005
>>55082117
>>55083054

I'm sorry, but why are Beastmen the rapist army?

>>55085169
Well clearly they couldn't fucking kill the 3+ save rerolling 1s healing on 6s no battle shock, shone with the lantern liberators, and fulminators and rets back up

>>55085229
>I don't understand why they would do this
They are squatting all old armies. Start actual army groggy.

>>55085225
What? They have the Soulblight keyword. Why wouldn't it?

>>55085242
>0
Because that's what beastmen DO

>>55085225
It gives more movement, but they already have fly.

>>55085248
Needs the vampire keyword

>>55085242
Beastmen in fluff reproduce by raping other races females.

>>55085248
Because they already fly

>>55085244
slaves to darkness have no viable options other than cavalry spam now that they took away all the legacy characters, and they still have no range

>>55085254
>>55085261
Wait a second. I thought GW was trying to stay away from rape? Hence why they're tiptoeing around one of the Chaos gods?

>>55085272
Not with beastmen. I guess it's slightly more acceptable since they're LITERAL monsters and SUPPOSED to be 100% evil.

>>55079914
What kind of brain damage does anyone need to actually like this cereal box tier game?

Literally the last shit that remains form old GW.

NuGW Warhammer non fantasy Sci-Fi setting when?

>>55085075
Noone with input?

>>55085271
Then pick Tzeench or new Nurgle guys
>>55085272
>I thought GW was trying to stay away from rape?
Yep, now they are just eating humans.

>>55085285
>NuGW

What did he mean by this?

>>55085243
Because you hedged all you bets on one action and not on multiple methods of damage to sit his support

Git gud

>>55085258
1.No, it doesn't. 2. Even if it did, they have it.
>>55085263
They still get the movement buff.

>>55085238
While we're at it, what did you mean by 'take Blood Dragons'? Did you mean Blood Knights? He already said he had them. Or did you mean the Blood Warrior Bloodline?

>>55085395
Derp, Dragon Warrior Bloodline.

>>55085395
Dragon warrior bloodline sorry

>>55085285
Why would they start up another Sci-Fi setting? That'd compete with 40k. Companies don't compete with themselves, it means both product lines lose.

>>55085422
40k isn't Sci-Fi, it's fantastic Sci-Fi anon.

>>55085440
>It isn't Sci-Fi it's Sci-Fi

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this box any good?

>>55085474
no

>>55085481
Why not?

So Stormfiends have the star next to their pitched battle profile indicating something changed, but they are still 300 points, 3-9, battleline if Skryre. What changed?

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Okinawa anon here. Took the plunge and bought my first battalion (?). Didn't buy any paint since it was expensive as fuck, and got Sylvaneth. Wanted Fyreslayers, since I love the dwarves in WH:TW, but I'm happy with what I got.

I know I have a shit ton of questions, but holy fuck, I can't remember a single one right now. Tips for new players, at all? How do I do good at painting when I start? Should I use GW paint exclusively, or is any fine?

I put together two models, do they look okay? Never built miniatures before.

>Slaves to Darkness got an allegiance ability, artifacts and command traits
>Got a pretty much across the board points decrease
>My general, a chaos lord on a manticore, went from 300pts to 250
>My chaos knights went from 200 pts to 160
This feels good
What about you anons?

>>55085555
I would suggest watching warhammer TV's painting guides on youtube in order to get a feeling on how to paint, and there's a new Painting app from GW that is comming out soon as well

>>55085557
>Have small beastmen army that I suppliment with Rotbringer and Nurgle Daemons
>Want to run a pure Brayherd army now
>I have to get so many more beastmen

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>>55080135
Bump this. I know there are a lot of seraphon players here and I would be grateful for some tips and advice

When unit upgrades are free, is there any reason not to take them?

All this talk of soulblight armies are blood knight the only battleline still?

>>55085601
Um, no?

>>55085536
wondering this myself...

2017 is down can someone post new GH in pdf?

>>55085613
Maybe the points for taking a max unit?

>>55085611
In that case, they may as well stop selling on-foot heroes.

>>55085555
This anon >>55085574. Duncan on warhammer tv has great painting tutorials for newbie. And remember - if you bought a sylvanth start collecting dont fuckin glue the big guy before painting. Buy a lot of small magnets (3x1mm should be fine), a small hand-drill and magnetize him

>>55085610
No, Vargheists got bl too now.

>>55085637
Oh that's pretty nice then

>>55080286
Jesus christ you're salty.

>>55085632
On foot can be good if you want to hide it in infantry.

>>55085641
And trait applies to all Soulblight in the army, not just the vampire. So bats, BKs and Vargs too.

>>55085637
On the other hand, we finally officially lost VLoAT. I liked having something in-between VL and VLoZD.

>>55085634
Will definitely watch that. Can you tell me what value the magnets provide? Are they sold at typical game stores?

>>55085659
I never saw the point in a lord besides the zombie dragon.

That shit is amazing

>>55085660
You know, if you live in Japan then buy your magnets on aliexpress. I bought 200 of them for a $1.
Magnets are great because some models have few assembling options. Thanks to them you can just swap weapons or limbs of your model so if you want to change your list you don't have to buy a brand new model

>>55085615
i concur

>>55085656
So why do people say the flying one is the most useful over making vargiests tactical nukes with dragon warrior

>>55085615
>>55085684
Here >>55081441

>>55085670
Double move spell + vamp lord +1 attacks to a unit of 10 blood knights alpha charging 20"

>>55085683
Oh, nice. With the Sylvaneth collection box, am I only able to create one of the three? Or can I create the Lord, Wizard, and Durthu Spirit, interchangeably?

>>55085670
Low-point games.

>>55085713
One of the three - that's why you need magnets mate. Here, look at this tutorial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JbpKSUoCn8
It's not even this hard. If you know what to do you can magnetize even the really small shit - I have magnetize the t'au fire warriors so I can use them also as breachers.

I'm using these magnets
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/200-Pieces-pack-3mm-x-1mm-Round-Ndfeb-Neodymium-Disc-Magnets-Dia-N50-Strong-Rare-Earth/32800857629.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.6WBjWa
and this drill
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Silver-Mini-Micro-Aluminum-Hand-Drill-With-Keyless-Chuck-0-8-3-0mm-10pcs-High-Speed/32808574637.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.Nq93LK

Also remember - if you want to glue the magnet on the model, you have to use super-glue. For plastic-to-plastic gluing you should use the plastic glue

>>55085474
The bullgors are a great punchy addition to an army, and the ghorgon is sound considering it got a price drop now

>>55085747
Awesome. Thanks for all the links anon. I'll post back this week when the big one's done.

>hype

>>55080286
and elves never

>>55085494
Bullgors are relatively weak for their points cost, and their battalion ability falls apart as soon as you are missing one of them. The Ghorgon is likewise weak for its value. Don't get me wrong, Warherd is fun - it's just way too frail. You'll have to hug scenery to get the best out of them.

Also: they're rapists.

>>55085792
If you need any painting tips or tutorials you should also lurk on /wip/ general threads. Take it slow, paint your dryads firstly to learn how to thin your paints, use the brush etc. Believe me - you don't want to learn how to NOT paint on your biggest and best looking model

>>55085792
>>55085831
Other Anon here- the best tip I can give you is an addendum to 'thin your paints': You haven't thinned them enough. No, still not enough. No, still not. Can you see through them yet? Then keep thinning.

>>55085704
Because more testing needs to be done. I think in theory charging over terrain with your knights is cool, but you are generally expected to use bat swarms for protection anyway. If you're doing a 1K game it looks better.

Gorebeast chariots or horse chariots?

55085812
You're trying to force that old fluff meme, and it isn't working.

>>55085891
... Do you not know how to reply to a post?

>>55085947
You haven't been here very long, have you?

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>>55085947
>>55085951
>Doesn't know the old art of not knowing how to answer to a post

Summerfag, please.

>>55079914
AGE OF SMEGMA

>>55081441
My Calibre has been converting the shit epub for more than 12 hours straight and still at 67%.

Thank you.

>>55085992
Who had to blow who in order to make epub a thing?

>>55082812
If you think WFB had great fluff, you probably shouldn't. Consider warmachine.

>>55085619
no, that is the same

>>55086023
Google decided to fuck everyone else instead of using pdf like everyone else.

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What the FUCK have they done to undead???

>>55085704
Maybe they don't run Vargheists. Maybe they don't trust their ability to always get the charge, or think it's too situational. Maybe they simply prefer flat, across-the-board, always on bonuses.

Speaking of, is there a consensus yet on what the best Soulblight Artefact is?

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Are the Open War cards worthwhile?

The Warscroll cards and the tokens that come with them look so easily replicable, so fuck paying 40 smackers for them at least.

>>55086115
huh?

>>55086135
Tomb kings: gone
Half the named characters: gone

>>55086115
Why don't you tell us, Patrick Batman?

>>55086146
Ah yeah.

You're a bit late to things, but Warhammer fantasy got blown up and all the characters died except for the ones Nagash reformed.

There was no place for Tomb Kings since no Nehekhara, so they don't have minis anymore.

>>55086115
Some shit in their Allegiance was a no brain.
Of course they changed them.

>>55086159
But they were in the last GH?

>>55086202
Their compendium pdf has all their matched play points values
Settra, royal warsphynx, necrosphynx, and necro knights all went up in points

>>55086202
Points and stuff yeah so people with models could still use them. You can also find the rules. They've decided to makes thing more generic in terms of naming so you can have your own custom scarab prince instead of it always being apophas.

>>55086202
They're now solely found in their Compendium PDF. They can take Death Allegiance, but aren't on the Allies matrix.

>>55086128
I bought the Open War cards for 40k, and yes. They are extremely good for getting variety in pick games. I basically never played a standard matched play mission since I bought them, and we played those almost alwasy before.

>>55086226
At the same time that they made it so that the Seraphon and Ironjawz Battalions always have specific Generals, and prohibit you from repainting Neave Badhair. I swear, I can't figure out their thought processes.

>>55086235
However, they did get their own unique Keywords.

>>55086254
Ah neato, thanks.

>>55085271
Fatesworn StD are even more legit now.

Pretty much everything got price reductions/stayed the same except Sorcerer Lord. Horde discounts on Marauders and Warriors too.

Even the fucking battalion that has good benefits and can make your army a one drop got cheaper.

Also with the rewording of Paradoxical Shield a Lord on Daemonic Mount will be an absolute nightmare to shift.

Sayl just became an auto-include for StD heavy armies as he now provides incredible tactical options.

The only downside is the loss of the Exalted Standard Bearer. Him comboed with Gorebeast Chariots and Destiny Dice was just plain nasty. Still you can use any version of a warscroll and it still has points.

>>55084032
Dude just use oldschool GW models if you want the same look. That way you can actually use em in a GW store.

>>55084975
HIDE SLAV POSTS

IGNORE SLAV POSTS

DO NOT REPLY TO SLAV POSTS

>>55084975
By that logic, astra militarum is also an npc army in 40k since they part of the index books and haven't gotten their codex yet.

>>55082978
>5 hour AoS stream
Jesus

>>55086569
Not an argument. Even new boxes called them militia forces of cities
>>55086586
Yep, so what?

>>55081592
>Is this a reprint or a new book?
>This range of books sees tales from Warhammer Fantasy Battles brought back into print
>brought back into print

What's the reason for the point increases of neartly every batallion in the game? Most of the batallions add only minor benefits to having a certain army roster, so why is for example the price of foulrain congregation DOUBLED? The bonus isn't big enough to warrant the price of another plagueclaw on the cost of the batallion.

>>55086808
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU4t83cCDaM [Embed]
>15:00 in
>Wanderer eternal guard in cover
>3+ save rerolling 1s and 2s
is this true?

>>55086938
They had become a "must take" in pretty much every list. If the choice come between taking a battalion, or another unit of battleline troops, the battalion was better 9/10 times.

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>>55086955
Also remember about sisters of the thorn spell

>>55086938
They bring a free artefact, so you just could spam that 60 points battalions for another character bonus.

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>120 points now
>Oh hello 200+ point melee units
>Pls attack me
>Oh looks everything is dead

I'm taking 3 of them

Doomwheel vs WLC? Just looking at the doomwheel, it looks more versatile, the lightning shots look good. But more people seem to run WLC.

>>55087229
WLC for "real" games, DW for skirmish ang casual games

Was thinking of getting blightwar but I dont own or play stormcast. Is there a paint scheme that makes them look good? Lorewise they are assassins right so maybe a sneaky scheme?

>>55087280
Personally, I like them painted silver instead of gold. There is an anon here posting his stuff sometimes - he is painting his SCE black and they look great

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>>55087280
>Lorewise they are assassins right

Can't find the old dorf compendium to save my life. Just want to save it since the new one cut out all the characters. Any chance an anon could pop it up?

I just want to REMEMBER THEM

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>>55087309
Silver with just the trim golden is pretty good

I also like this one

>>55087323
It's in the OP mega links you dingo

>>55087321
The dudes in blightwar? They serve black talon who is the chick I think and are being sent behind enemy lines to kill slugman arent they?

>>55087321
In the lore, the girl with the axes (blacktalon was she called?) is refered as "the chosen assasin by Sigmar" so let's just say he's half-right

>>55087280
And the sneaky colour scheme idea sounds cool

Something dark greenish-brownish

Problem is, if you do that the difference and contrast between the SCE and Nurgle might be lost, but if they look good that's not really a problem

>>55087347
sounds more like commandos

>>55087362
>And the sneaky colour scheme idea sounds cool
yeah, sure, sneaky full plates...

>>55087323
>I just want to REMEMBER THEM
Stop being a pussy, grognard anad start supporting the game

>>55087383
Well I just looked up the units in the box and they all seem to be associated with the "vanguard auxilliary" rather than normal stormers. Sounds like camo would suit them besides its magic full plate from some christ figure isnt it? Plus plate doesnt rattle so loud that you can hear it before you see it.

>>55087439
>"vanguard auxilliary"
Do you even know what auxiliary means?
Btw vanguard =/= sneaky
>plate doesnt rattle so loud
BWAHAHAHA

>>55087435
Good idea. I just bought a box of bow stormcast, crossbow stormcast, hammer stormcast, big hammer stormcast. mounted stormcast, slightly larger mounted stormcast, a dragon riding stormcast, and scoutcasts.

thanks m8

>>55087439
Don't bother to replying to shitposting. Just paint your stuff as you want. Have some fun with alternative schemes

>>55086828
They were that in WFB too, nothing changed dude. Soldiers doubled up as policemen in historical times . . .

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>2017
>People still replying to stormraped cuck shitposting

>>55087463
Auxiliary more or less means "not the main shit" and vanguard just puts them at the front. Whilst its not inherently sneaky its the most likely group to be sneaky for scouting purposes. Have you ever been to aedieval faire or something? Beyon say 20 meters its reasonable you wouldnt hear them unless they sprinted but you could see someone at way further.

>>55087435
I'm supporting it yo. I've got full KO and skaven armies. I just love me some old dorfs alright.

>>55087346
Derp. Thanks anon

>>55087517
>[current year]
>People still want to play space marines in AoS
>people still like having every book cover having SCE on it
>people still like having every boxed set containing SCE
>people still like SCE being able to ally with every Order army

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SIEGES
>Batter: [...] On a 5+ the terrain feature has been breached, and none of its abilities can be used in the battle (it can still provide cover)

What abilities are normal walls and turrets suppose to have?

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>>55087584
Oh you poor sissy cuck, show me where the golden boy has touched you

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>>55087517
>2017
>good guy Eternals have better Chaos Warriors than Chaos does
>Stormcast have better Varanguard than Chaos does
>Stormcast have a better assassin than Skaven or Aelves have
>Stormcast have better armor and saves than Dwarves have
>Stormcast have better shooting than Aelves have

>>55087584
SCE is, by the fact, the centerpiece of lore of Age of Sigmar. You know, the setting is about SIGMAR taking back the Realms, and SCE is mostly the main tool for that. And unlike most other factions, SCE is fully-designed lorewise and is, for now, the only damn force with all aspects unveiled and all questions anwsered.
That is not good at all, but damn, don't be such a dick and let GW use what they have

>>55087692
He is shitposting Anon, don't waste your time

>>55087542
>"not the main shit"
Wrong, it mean foreigners shit.
>Beyon say 20 meters its reasonable you wouldnt hear them
Top kek, oh well, it's okay anon, I've got it. You want to make your marrysues even more marry sues.

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>>55087649
BUY SCE TODAY!

>Cheetahfag is shitposting on /40kg/
>Mods ban him after few hours

>Cheetahfag is shitposting on /aosg/
>Let him shitpost for next few weeks

Thanks mods

I wonder when the shitposters will get bored and leave again. It's not even interesting at this point, it's just the same shit over and over again.

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>>55087782
>Cheetahfag
literally who?

>>55087786
Please try harder

>>55087786
>Being this insecure
Did Golden Boy force you to blow his big hammer?

>>55087885
>Anyone who disagrees with me is insecure

>>55087902
I bet you love this electric taste on your tongue, sissy stormcuck

>>55087912
>This coming from the nigger who jerks off to femcasts

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>>55087936
So you really like it? Great to hear. You are dreaming about hard hammer-pounding while posting your weak baits. I understand this, it's just a significant part of your submissive slav nature. Don't cry anymore Anon - if you miss the golden finger in you ass you should start lurking /d/ - their drawfags will make something special for you If you ask them

"Hot-blooded Fury: The Fyreslayers’ impetuosity makes them unpredictable foes
– something that their leaders can turn to their advantage. Once per battle, before
rolling the dice to see who takes the first turn in a battle round, you can declare that
you will seize the initiative. Add 1 to the result of your dice roll for each HERO from
the Lords of the Lodge that is on the battlefield"

Does the new rule of one completely fuck over the Lords of the Lodge battalion for FS? Not only that but BOTH the new battalions that they added REQUIRE you to build Lords of the Lodge into them. This is quite honestly the most fucking frustrating thing that is in the whole book for me. Now I have to pay 90 points and bring a bunch of shitty heroes for ABSOLUTELY NO BENEFIT if I want to try out the new battalions.

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>>55087936

You don't like boobplate, wide hip plate and STUPID FUCKIN HEELZ for fem-fashion??!?

>>55081954
Missing the point tho. Pestilens now identify with skaven more than nurglez. It's a sign of what's to come yes-yes.
I also really want to see Thanquol fucking up plans again

>>55088009
Wow I guess I wasn't reading that correctly.

Fyreslayers seem like an unfinished faction. I really want to like them and get the Start Collecting box, but apart from modeling I don't think they offer much tactically. Seems like Volkite Bs hold the line and you try to smash with the deep striking tunnelers.