/5eg/ - Fifth Edition General

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How would you build a principled conservative in 5e?

>>55071855
Person who has his moral and ethical codes which he follows as close as he can whilst not being overbearing on the rest of the party.

what kind of stupid question is this anon

>>55071855
However the hell you want. That's more personality than it is build.

How's the revised Kensei?

>>55071892
Archer/10

>>55071880
Yeah, but if you're gonna pump CHA you may as well have a class that benefits from it. Though with full casters (especially the War Cleric you were talking about), you've got a little more to play with from a point-buy perspective.

So I'm building the closest thing that the local setting has to a major city and right now I'm working on business and street map.

It's a coastal/trade city, so right now I have a major dock and warehouses for merchant vessels, a smaller wharf and accompanying market for fishermen, a wealthy housing district and the accompanying businesses (jeweler, tailor, cobbler, butcher) a major woodworking and shipwright/repair district, and a main street with a fucktillion temples.

Scattered throughout I also have a whole bunch of taverns, inns, and brothels.

My question is: am I missing anything?

Trying ot make a temple-chanter character for an upcoming game. Obviously I need to go Life Cleric / Lore Bard, but I don't know which class I should start with, and where I should dip. It's gonna be a 5th level game, GM says expect it to end around level 10.

Any advice on a proper progression?

>>55071962
If it's a pretty major town it'll probably have some sort of town hall or leaders house.

You might like to add in a guard house, healer, school/university, even a library or general bookshop. An orphanage too perhaps.

>>55071315
Become THE WALL?
I say, only playing with 14 CON

Anyone have any PDFs from DM's Guild? I believe there was some in the old trove that got taken down.

>>55072138
I would say start Cleric 2 for the better proficiency, then grab Bard 3 for your college. Cleric 3 doesn't really get anything interesting.

I'm not sure there is honestly any synergy between the two classes but that's what you want so I would just say pick one direction to go in and stick with it. You either get some low level bard stuff and a college or you get some low level cleric stuff and a channel divinity. You're not going to have your highest level spells either way.

>>55072153
I knew I was forgetting something in my OP. I have a town hall, a few guards' barracks, and healers.

But I really like the rest of those! Library, that would have been a great idea. Can't believe I didn't think about it. School too, though it'd probably be either very basic education meant to lead into the trades or a highly specialized group. Maybe the former and combine it with the orphanage, I like it.

Thanks, anon!

>>55072180
Grab the Shield Master feat and you'll (and your friends) deal tons of damage while enjoying dat dere nice AC

>>55072289
But I was already going to pick up Fell Handed. Is there really much room for feats in a multiclass?

>>55071817
How to make good stealth focused games? I want to do metal gear styled tactical espionage action

>>55072375
Inform party ahead of time so that they can all be useful, prepare maps and information and shit because it usually pays off in stealth based scenarios, give players means of obtaining that information, make up your mind on how to rule stealth and keep it consistent. These are off the top of my head. Stealth scenarios are hard to run well in tabletop.

>>55072358
Oh. If you're confident you'll get lots of advantage (like using the retarded flanking optional rule) then Fell Handed is more than enough.

>>55072426
Now I want to try Mountain Dwarf trickery cleric with fell handed.

>>55072375
Try other system? Shadowrun is great for that kinda stuff.

>>55072375
Ask yourself the exact same thing the players should ask themselves: what happens when (not if) they get caught? It's got to be something more than "you get in a normal fight" or else why not just kick in the door like a normal dungeon? But it's also got to be something less than a TPK because you can't just savescum like in a video game. They are going to fail a stealth roll and they'll do it sooner than you think.

>>55072426
Familiars are uh...yeah. Pretty common in this.

Should I dip a level of Draconic Sorcerer on my Lore Bard?

More armor and some more offensive spell sound like a good deal.

>>55072812
A lore bard shouldn't lose their levels to get more damage, unless your group is severely lacking in that department. Even more, do you really want to be one of those guys who show up and say that they character had a hidden draconic bloodline all along, and now all of a sudden that power has emerged? Please don't. Use a feat if you really need to on better armor, after you get 20 charisma.

Sharpshooter seems pretty powerful if you have a high dex to roll for your ranged weapons?

I get a +11 for my heavy crossbow, even if I take -5 off it it's still a +6 to hit, and then i'm adding +10 to my already +5 for a 1d10+15 =o

>>55072891
Yeah, it is pretty powerful. Which is why McCree fighter with sharpshooter and crossbow expert is so devastating.

>>55072880
Everyone has a hidden draconic bloodline.

>>55072891
The main virtue of Sharpshooter is ignoring range penalties so that you can hit things from downtown. Outdoor battles become a breeze as you shoot everything from two football fields away, often killing them before they can reach you or the rest of the party.

>>55072880
Multiclassing Lore Bard with another spellcaster allow him to pick up 4th level spell instead of 3rd when he get his first magical secret (and 6th level spell instead of 5th for the second one).

It's not that bad at all.

>>55072920
>McCree fighter
Is this an overwatch thing?

>>55072920
>>55073005
Kinda want to put together a marksman bounty hunter sort of character that can either specialise in long range "sniping" but also if need be be pretty adept in close quarters fighting too

>>55072891
Unless their AC is truly abysmal and you can still hit them on a natural 2, the Sharpshooter penalty adds a flat 25% miss chance. That's significant enough that I don't usually do it. I've played enough XCOM 2 to know that a 70% chance of success is nowhere near as good as it sounds.

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>>55073072
>Is this an overwatch thing?
Yes. Overwatch is a quasi-super hero shooter. McCree is a cowboy. His super power is a single revolver.

>>55073076
Run the math, man. It's always beneficial to take the -5/+10 unless you're facing something with over 20AC, and even then you can Precision Attack meme to make it be worthwhile.

>>55073121
So he's Gunhaver.

What are some ideas for a lawful good rogue?

>>55073164
My name is Amigo Toyota. You killed my father, my mother, my brother, my sister, my roommate, PREPARE TO DIE

>>55073164
It takes a thief to catch one

>>55073164
A public lawyer

>>55073164
Historian who collects artifacts for museums.

>>55073164
Tax collector
Whitehat burglar
Guardsman
Investigator, PI-type
Government spy
Treasure Hunter

>>55073141
I don't give a shit about DPS in the long run because encounters never last long enough for those statistics to matter. My goal is to never miss. I will keep not sharpshooting unless I still hit on a roll of 2 even with the penalty.

>>55073164
Chaotic good rogue

>>55073251
Well, sucks to be you.

>>55073076
Gotta risk it for the biscuit

>>55073283
Sucks to play in actual adventures instead of figuring out how to max theoretical DPS in a white room over the course of an arbitrarily large number of turns? Honestly, which of those sounds more fun to you?

How is the normal paladin leveling? 5 Pally/2 Fighter for 4 attacks in a turn?

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>>55073251
>fighter
>worried about missing

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>>55073311
>Multiclassing

>>55073303
>Muh white room theorycrafting
Some options are better than the others. Statistically. The fact that you try arguing with the numbers by screaming insults is telling.

>>55072375
Do you mean Metal Gear as in the first half of 1 and the majority of 2&3 or do you mean the last half of 1? It's probably better to find something in between the two. Have some stealth sections broken up by bosses and combat. With as much stealth as there's going to be and as well as the number of players who might not want to play an entirely stealthy character, make stealth more like a puzzle rather than just a boring "roll stealth to sneak past this guy."

In terms of story, there's a good amount of potential here. Perhaps it's a group of mercenaries soldiers rebelling against a king for not waging enough wars and being too peaceful. There's a few ideas you could toy around with.

Once you get some of the ideas for stealth laid out, just find some character art and look for the more quirky/eye catching ones and make up unique personalities and fighting styles for them.

>>55073121
Poor McCree.
https://youtu.be/a6ngqK3ekjw

>>55073164
A vigilante who works with the law and has a personal moral code to abide by when chasing criminals

>>55073311
>5 pally/2 fighter for 4 attacks for one turn
not
>TWF 7 Pally, 3 attacks every turn, aura of protection, sacred oath feature, additional 2nd level spell to smite with, 1 level away from ASI

>>55073311
If you get multiattack from multiple sources they don't stack, you have to pick one.

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I know this is a 5e thread, but do you guys who where I can get 4e resources? My group wants to run 4e, but I only have the first 3 books.

>>55073434
Yeah, but lvl 2 Fighter has action surge

Would you allow Prestidigitation to cut someone's hair?

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Creative but cruel DM ideas:

A roper on a 10 ft square in the middle of a time 40 ft. wide lava river flow.

>>55073443
Know*

>>55071962
A red light district perhaps? Or at least a slum?

>>55073443
try the 4e thread.
>b-b-but anon! I don't see one!
Well then make one, shitlord.

>>55072920
Can someone go over the Mcree fighter build?

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>>55073455
No lava necessary. Just give this encounter to level 4 party.

Explain to me how moon druid/sun monk isn't an awesome idea

>>55073485
Battlemaster V. Human with SS and CBE

That's it anon

>>55073696
>delaying wild shape features and kamehameha features so you can be good at neither.
Concept is great, execution is lacking.

Is beast conclave ranger any good? I want to make your cliche beastmaster with a wolf companion.

>>55073740
Use the UA Revised Ranger, and yeah it's fine.

What is the most creative way your players dealt with an enemy?

How do we fix sorcerers, 5e?

>>55073164
A medic who uses bonus action for medkit

>>55073768
found a yochlol bound in a magic circle, tried to make a deal with us to set it free, instead we left it in its circle, sealed the room it was in with stone shape, and had a good, long laugh.

>>55073455
Beholder in a funhouse mirror maze
Bounce those eyebeams around corners

>>55073781
Spell points pool merged with sorcery points pool and bonus spells tied to sorcerous origin.

Boom, done.

How would you play as an Aarakocra?

Kind of want to play it as a ranged flying sharpshooter character

>>55073866
Your DM actually allows them?

playing a four armed character means i can atack 4 times in a turn?

>>55073696
shelegah literally dose nothing for a monk because you need dex just as good or better than your wis and can just 2hand for the 1d8 boost anyway

>>55073732
You can do a lot with the lower level stuff

>>55073918
no

>>55073394
>Some options are better than the others. Statistically
Over the course of more turns than is usually realistic

>>55073918
Sure you can, if you play a 20 level fighter.

>>55073939
but if i have 4 arms why cant i atack 4 times at once

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>>55073988

>>55073988
>if I have 8 arms why can't I attack 8 times at once
>if I have 20 arms why can't I attack 20 times at once
>if I have 4 arms and 2 mouths why can't I cast 2 spells at once

Need help with a room in a dungeon which is basically a disco. Multifaceted ball in the middle reflecting lights around the room, turning so that the lights move every round.
Except each light is enchanted with the following
1. Ottos irresistable dance
2. It forces you to sing, preventing you from using command words/spells
3. Gives you stage fright, causing you to jump out of the spotlight using your reaction
4. ???

Can y'all help me think of something else thematic that fits?
There'll be helmed horror doing literally killer disco moves so I don't want the 4th beam to be just something that does damage

>>55073866
Name him Eric and make him a farmer.
Guess what he grows

>>55074035
beets?

>>55074015
exactly

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>>55073918
Dual Greatswords 2: The Electric Boogaloo

>>55074174
well
what about dual greatsword
it's totally normal if you have the max strenght to dual wield greatsword

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>>55074015
>I have two arms why can't I attack twice at once

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One of my players asked me to master a Dark Sun game. I'm reading up on it to figure out if i like it.

Two things stood out as problematic.
Firstly, I've never been into psionics in D&D. Would removing psionic powers be a huge problem and take away too much of the feel of the setting?

Second, can 5E actually support the "survival" aspect as well as the others?

Finally, is there a decent DarkSun one-off?

>>55073869
Yes?

>>55073866
Aarakocra make great monks

>>55074377
>Would removing psionic powers be a huge problem and take away too much of the feelof the setting?
Yes. Psionics is important because it's the settings dominant supernatural power. Arcane magic caused the destruction of the world, causing it to be taboo and not openly practiced, and the gods are all dead/silent, so divine magic is basically non-existent. Psionics exists to fill in that gap. You cannot have a "true" Dark Sun campaign without psionics without reworking the setting, and at that point why even run Dark Sun and just have a Dark Sun inspired post-apocalyptic setting that still has openly practice magic and gods and shit?

>>55074377

>Can 5e support survival?

5e can't really support anything except combat and RP, because it's so dumbed down and rules lite compared to other editions.

You'd have to find hombrew tables and systems for most rules like crafting, hunger ect.

>>55073732
the only good laser feature is the first one. Spending 1/3rd of your ki points at level 6 to use first level burning hands may as well be a joke feature

>>55073443
>first three books

if these are the core books that is all you need, lazy ass.

Are sentient weapons just a way of nerfing magical weapons? There don't seem to be many benefits, and the downsides are if you don't do what the weapon wants it can forcefully unattune you or take control of you.

>>55074021
an illusion that changes the recipients clothes to be polyester 70's era disco clothes.

>>55074536
Sun Soul is an awesome idea that's horribly designed. A level 11 feature that does 2d6 and has a save for no damage couldn't have had any thought put into it

>>55074579
it's flavour. something to make a weapon feel special. they're generally more powerful than the average weapon too.

I love seeing people get salty when I say I'm reflavoring a class differently from how the books want it.

Your cleric doesn't believe in a god and instead got his powers from researching ancient civilisations?

Your warlock didn't make a pact and instead gets his powers through birth?

>>55074707
Who cares

>>55074579
There can be benefits, your sentient weapon might be smarter than you or be more perceptive and tell you things you would've missed yourself. You're basically taking an NPC with you, he can be useful or a deadweight.

As a new DM, I'm really bad at ruling on players who approach combat laterally.

My party's rogue wanted to climb up the back of a Giant. He wanted to do this so that the closest nearby Giant would accidentally attack the Giant he was perched on top of.

How would you have guys ruled on this? I ended up just letting him do a standard climbing with a successful Acrobatics roll and then made his Action be to taunt the nearby Giant so that if they missed him, they'd hit the Giant that he was on top of.

>>55074707
Why would anyone get salty at you for doing what PHB and DMG quite blatantly suggest? Godless clerics are a staple of D&D anyway, and if they were not, it is not like there is any RAW support for taking their fancy magic powers away as though they were paladins.

>>55074816
An example: if rogue has more AC than giant, if the attack misses rogue but meets giant's AC - it hits giant. If rogue has less AC than giant: if the miss is by 1 or 2 (e.g. rogue has 15 AC, hit roll result is 14) the giant gets hit instead.

>>55074823

I dunno why but people start frothing at the mouth when you play against the set flavor.

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The warlock and the sorcerer from the early playtest had very interesting ideas, how could they fuck up so badly the classes?

>>55074707
>Your cleric doesn't believe in a god and instead got his powers from researching ancient civilisations?

How do you refluff divine intervention? Not salty, just curious.

>>55074823

I don't think paladins have a RAW way of losing their power anymore either.

>>55074377

Be strict about tracking rations and water. Be strict about Exhaustion levels.

>>55073732
>>55073696
This is an awesome idea, but you have to do it properly. Monk 5/moon druid X gets you a bunch of cool stuff that absolutely works with wild shape by RAW.

The only part where things get tricky is flurry of blows/martial arts, which according to multiple bits of sageadvice is something any creature can still do, but it's based on monk dice and not the natural weapon dice. Some people take umbridge at this, and in theory with extra attack you could do one of your attacks as a natural weapon with a kicker and then your second attack is unarmed strike + flurry which is pretty wacky but monks kind of suck so whatever.

At any rate, the main trick is what monk archtype to get. Open hand requires you to be able to flurry with bear headbuts or whatever, 4 elements and shadow may or may not count under "no casting spells during wild shape" (although you can still be a teleporting bear if you can somehow figure out how to get past the no darkvision in wild shape rule), kensei is obviously useless and long death requires you to be a psychopath in order to get an admittedly very useful temp hp boost on kills to be even more tanky.

Sun soul is the only one without any real stumbling blocks to making a build, but going only 5 levels deep means that you cap at 1d6 lasers, which is ok I guess but since this uses dex for some reason and not wis your animal of choice can seriously effect how useful this is.

But at the same time you can do wacky shit like turn into a spider, web someone up to the cieling with you and then powerbomb them into the ground while being yourself fine from slow fall, so its totally rad. And if worse comes to it and you feel like you're being too shitty just stop being a monk after 1-2 levels and be a moon druid with potentially better armor and some more speed

>>55074707
Damn, I'm over here seething in anger at your refluffs but there's nothing I can do about it. Gosh darn it

>>55074874
There's a sidebar about it in the PHB.

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>>55074872
Call onto forgotten magic secrets of the precursor civilizations that may or may not still be functional. If succesful, you are oversatured and out of sync with the Time Before for one week.
Or something like that.

>>55074868
By not including them in *any* of the playtests after that.

What's a good arcane tradition for an arcane trickster/wizard multiclass? My character's gonna be running in and out of enemy range with cunning action dash+mobile feat and attacking with booming blade. I was thinking either bladesinger for that ac or divination for portent

>>55075064
the whole point of playing arcane trickster instead of a real class is to come up with dumb gimmicky shit, so go conjuration so you can summon whatever props you need

>>55075090
>instead of a real class
?

Which page says how many weapons a PC can have equipped?

>>55075263
No you can't attack 4 times a turn if you have 4 arms

>>55075268
???

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>>55071817
This sounds cool, but why would a typical good-leaning party of heroes align with such a paladin? What common goals would they have?

>>55075274

>Evil guy threatens the realm
>Fucks up the good thing Paladin of Treachery has going
>Good guys want to stop the evil guy from threatening the realm
>Paladin of Treachery wants to stop the evil guy from ruining his cushy position

That said, mixing good and evil PCs can be tricky business for some people. You should probably talk to the group and the DM about it.

>>55075274
>hope to indulge in wanton violence and accumulate great treasure
If you are playing D&D, this should sound Good enough.

>>55074890
>(although you can still be a teleporting bear if you can somehow figure out how to get past the no darkvision in wild shape rule)

warlock devils sight should work. It isn't explicitly darkvision and is a magical effect, so there's no reason to assume a bear couldn't also use it. Warlock 3 (go GOO so you can telepathiclly talk to people as a bear)/shadow monk 6/druid X is quite the meme, although I dunno if its at all playable outside of the inherent advantage hex gives flurry/mutliattack. At least you can dump all your physiscal stats and just use an animal, or dump CHA and only use buffs

>>55073072
I just made a sharpshooter and remembered that it also removes the penalty on using nets at long range. It might fit with the bounty hunter theme.

>>55075335
I am the DM but I'll be taking a break for a few sessions soon, with one of the players taking over. I'm trying to think of a way to introduce one of these paladins as an NPC for my last session as DM, then play as the character for the next few. I'd like to end with him, of course, betraying the party and setting up a new story arc.

>>55075263
Bumping this question.

>>55075498
take your bait somewhere else. a one handed weapon takes up one hand. a two handed weapon takes up two. if you have two hands, you can equip two one handed weapons or one two handed weapons.

>>55075586
No shit, you know-it-all disgraceful cunt. I'm talking about how many weapons are available to have on my body, as opposed to a container. Like a dagger on my belt, a shortsword sheathed to the side, holding a warhammer with my hands, and a bow on my back. I want to know what counts as 'pulling out x weapon' to be used and what counts as being 'put away'.

>>55075263
"Equipped?" You can, at most, wield two light weapons.

>>55075627
I meant equipped as in, on my body ready to use, not wielded.

>>55075627
Technically nothing stops you from having two onehanded weapons that aren't light. You just can't do anything extra with them

>>55075642

You can with a feat.

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>>55075621
however fucking many you can carry shithead

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>>55075661
Which page states that rule, you insufferable maggot-eating elf?!

>>55074021
alcohol when your players quit.

>>55075686
What's it like being this stupid?

>>55075724
So you don't know or you made it up. Thanks for being a useless time-wasting piece of shit.

>>55075735
That was my first response in this argument, anon

>>55075263
You can only have your two hands ready with weapons at any one time. Whether that's a greatsword, two daggers, or a sword and shield is up to you.

You get one item interaction as a free action during your turn, which can be drawing or stowing a weapon. Any more than that and it can take your action. Page 190 PHB

>>55075686
Just use your god damn common sense, holy fuck.

>>55075263
>equipped
For weapons, there's no such thing. It only matters when you attack with them.

If it has the two-handed property, you need two free hands for it. If it has the ammunition property, you need at least one free hand outside of the one you wield with it. Otherwise, it takes one hand.

Outside of that, you can carry however many you want and however many you have the strength to carry without going over your carrying capacity.

>>55075274
There is little that evil abides less than other evil.

Besides, you're a Charisma based Deception character, if you can't come up with a ruse, you should be playing another character

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>>55075686
there's no specific ruling so it's up to dm fiat. there's so many place one can hide a weapon on their body that is readily available that there's no point in having a specific rule stating it. you can hide a dagger or a dart in your boot, strapped to your leg, in your pocket, strapped to your chest, under the brim of your hat, at your belt side, on a bandolier across your shoulder, and so on. thus one can assume that the amount of weapons you can readily carry is however much is less than your carrying capacity (which is your Strength score times 15, PHB page 176) by RAW, as long as you can convince the DM that it's reasonably easy to pull it out.

you shit eating twat

>>55075621
WHAT IS ITEM WEIGHT

WHAT IS CARRY WEIGHT

MAKE SURE YOU DON'T CARRY MORE THAT YOU CAN CARRY

>>55075686
Carry weight, dumbass.

Page 176 PHB, lifting and carrying. You can carry 15x your STR in pounds. Doesn't matter if that's weapons, armor, or whatever, as long as you can carry it.

>>55075805
But anon! That requires A D D I T I O N

>>55075805
>>55075837
GRANULAR MECHANIC
GRANULAR MECHANIC
GRANULAR MECHANIC
ABORT ABORT ABORT ABORT

>>55075850
RETREAT TO THE SAFE SPACE
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>currently playing the most railroaded game i've ever seen
>the dm basically just narrates what we do with basically no combat and when there is our rolls are fudged to insignificance
>last session we didn't even roll any dice

>>55075973
You should ditch that game.

Is a subversion of the Dwarfs v Elves tension that involves the forest Elves using their nature magic to grow lumber that they trade to the Dwarfs for manufactured goods believable? I'm wondering if it would be too odd to justify the Elves that are really friendly with nature and stuff basically farming lumber.

>>55075973
Offer to dm for that group and show them an actual fun game

>>55075995
>I'm wondering if it would be too odd to justify the Elves that are really friendly with nature and stuff basically farming lumber.
What could be more nature-friendly than the sustainable harvest of renewable resources?

If I wanted to make a character that teleported all over the damn place, what should I do? Way of the shadows monk?

>>55076024
That's fair. I'll think of some way for the Forest God they worship to either be indifferent or supporting of the practice. Maybe a utilitarian philosophy of do what you must to survive/flourish?

>>55075995
Makes sense to me. They grow the young trees to meet the demand for lumber, and they get cash from the dwarves, so everyone wins.
>>55076024
What he said.

Also, don't make it "the elves." It's one kingdom, or an empire, or whatever other country form you want. The peoples of the real world don't all live in one nation because they're the same species, don't make that mistake here.

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>>55075755
>>55075764
>>55075800
>>55075805
>>55075824

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>>55075779
Much appreciated, friends. Exactly what I was looking for.

>>55074890
Can you use flurry of blows with natural weapons? Flurry just says "after you make the attack action" but martial arts requires you to be "unarmed or using a monk weapon", do claws count as being armed even though it's literally part of your body and sage advice says wild shapes can do martial arts damage otherwise?

>>55076056
That is also good advice. Maybe there could be some ideological differences with another Forest Elf kingdom.

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I feel like refluffing a shield as a parrying dagger doesn't make sense in my head. Would it work more if it was just a dagger named "Parrying Dagger" whose special thing was +1 AC?

>>55076109
I can see that happening. The more traditionalist elf nation loathes the very concept, and even within the country that's doing the sales there could be some severe resistance.

Is the maps of the Curse of Strahd campaign from roll20 going to appear on the trove?

>>55071962
dungeon with a beholder underneath the city.

So I hear there's a 5e Scifi mod called Esper Genesis. Did they release the pdf yet? Anyone grab the book at gencon?

>>55076137
In my games parrying daggers are regular daggers that allow you to use your reaction to add +2 to your AC for that attack, potentially causing the attack to miss. It also stacks with the Defensive Duelist feat.

>>55076216
Hm, that's a pretty good way to do it. Not sure about having it stack though, that seems powerful.

>>55076268
It is. I like my feats powerful. I prefer balancing stuff to make them better than nerfing things.
Defensive Duelist is kinda shit as is.

By the way if someone has an idea to make the Charger feat actually good, I'd be grateful. One of my player finds the idea nice but the execution shit.

>>55076268
If you're DM is good he will make sure the battle matches your power AND make sure everyone has about the same buffs

>>55076299
Let them do their full attack after it instead of just one bonus action attack. Just make the shove/+5 the first attack.

>>55074015
There's definitely some creature in the monster manual who gets as many attacks as it has arms. So why not me??

>>55076366
Hell you could even fluff it for mages. Let them do a single melee attack spell after it.

>>55076137
The Dual Wielder feat is what lets you use an off-hand weapon for parrying.

>>55076420

Because you're a frickin' normie.

Would a Beholder work well as an enemy or villain that is like a mob boss or crime lord working in the shadows? Nobody even knowing what "the boss's face looks like"?

>>55076483
yes.

>>55076483
Yes that's xanader or whoever

>>55076483
that's literally how they've been used since 2nd edition

>>55076483
The Xanathar (with the "the") has been a fixture in Waterdeep's underworld - literally - since 2E AD&D.

>>55076420
Because that creature, the Marilith, is a fairly high-ranking demon/devil and a PC race having four arms and being able to make four attacks per turn is ridiculous for various reasons. If you're not dumb, you should know why.

Give me some ideas for some crime bosses in charge of different sections of the same criminal organization.
The organization has 8 arms:
Drugs
Security
Slave trading
Assassinations
Smuggling
Larceny
Banking
Gambling

I already have the bosses for drugs, security, and slave trading mostly figured out. What should I do for the other 5?

>>55076137
Like I told you last time last time, have a parrying dagger that lets you as a reaction make an attack roll on the damage roll, much like the BM Parry.

All fighters should have maneuvers anyway, and this is a way that lets them still be better at them

>>55076584
>all fighters should have maneuvers

Yes, fucking this. 5eg, how would you try to make something like the Tome of Battle maneuvers work in 5e? Would you make them their own class, or just take the maneuvers of a branch and turn them into a "battlemaster" tree?

Does the revised rangers animal companion scale with levels of anything, or only ranger levels? It doesn't specifically say

>>55076668
I just give all fighters that Battlemaster feat off the bat for free

>>55076568
The boss of the gambling arm is a fat cat hedonist type, like krew from Jak 2

The boss of the smuggling type is armed to the teeth with dangerous evil artifacts smuggled in from foreign countries, and is a hotheaded psycho type

The boss of the assassinations arm sneak attacks the party while they're trying to dismantle another arm, is the token competent teammate

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>>55074377
>from enworld

>>55076780
Battlemaster feat?

>>55076814
Martial Adept

>>55076814
Lemme check that for you....


Martial Adept, that's the one.

>>55076568
Smuggling needs to be a changling in charge of convincing people to smuggle thing for him

Banking should be a gnome who is the puppet for some kind of Duergar.

Secruity definitely either an orc or Golaith who's actually really clever.

>>55076844
>>55076841
Ah, I like that idea actually. But my question is incorperating something like Scarlet Throne or Piercing Thunder from Tome of Battle in pathfinder into DnD. Would it be better as a battlemaster variant or as its own classes?

>>55076875
I don't know, but I do say all fighters should get maneuvers

>>55076696
I'd say it scales with your total level

>>55076696
I say just ranger levels because "people" who multiclass revised ranger should be shot.

>>55076696
>>55076925
Scales primarily with Proficiency, which is based on total level when multiclassing.

>>55077011
Why, wouldnt taking at least a level in rogue be useful to rangers

>>55076782
>>55076848
These are pretty solid. Thanks mates.

How would you build a Rogue/Fighter?

>>55077011
there is literally nothing wrong with multicassing revised ranger

So I had an idea for a magical dagger that had a longer throwing range and could teleport the user next to the target after a successful thrown attack.
Problem is, the only character that would use this would be a Rogue, but then they're next to an enemy and don't have a second attack. How would I make this work, because I really like the concept.

>>55077270
Google "Whisper" from Critical Role

>>55077270
Dual wielding, bruh

When WotC mad the champion did they honestly think it was as good as the other two archetypes?

It only takes a cursory glance to see that it isn't.

>>55077038
The first few levels of revised ranger are insanely stuffed with goodies.

>>55077322
No, they thought it was good enough while being excessively simple for people who just want to play a Classic Fighter.

>decide to run an exploration campaign as my first thing as a DM instead of premade module
>run out of ideas what to put on the island halfway through
Fuck
So far I've got:
>Two rival pirate groups, orc and drow
>Ancient warforged kingdom, full of deactivated warforged, can be reactivated
>Quarter of the island embroiled in a undead vs demons conflict
>Both warforged and undead being gods' plot to destroy demons
>Also the island filled with goblinoids as trash filler and on the road encounters

Any advice what more to add?

>>55077352
So multiclass later

Damn, slow day today in /5eg/

What class or race have you been meaning to play but have never gotten around to?

>>55077377
King of the goblinoids

>>55077570
Yeah that's also part of the trash filler goblinoids

>>55077322
>its only ever worth the critcial feat

fucking stupid

Okay how about this

What about the fiends?

>>55077562
Barbarian. Actually playing an ancestral guardians one soon if our group can ever have a consistent schedule

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Stat me

>>55077647
Commoner, CR 0,with magic Initiate for Shocking Grasp

>>55077640
Playing a fighter turned Zealot Barbarian if we ever get back to playing in a friend's campaign

>>55077562
I've had a character for a long time that's an old kobold grandma wizard.
She owns a bakery called Pie of the Beholder.

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playing my first dnd game soon, right now I've got 3 characters I'm trying to pick from. A vengeance paladin, a great old one warlock, and a lucky diviner wizard. Which do you think would be the best choice? I'm waiting for the people Im playing with to make their decisions to make the final call so that we don't end up with 2 of the same class, but I'd still like to hear thoughts.

PS: I like them all, so please don't say "pick whichever you like". I'm just looking to hear opinions from people who have played before on which one will provide the best experience for a new player.

What is the price point of 'magic metals' such as Mithral and Adamantine?
Also how large is a 300 gp diamond generally?

>>55077936
Gold is 50 GP the pound, platinum is ten times that, adamant in is ten times that, mithral is 50 times that

>>55077908
Pick the paladin, going nova for the first time after you crit is a fantastic feeling. Diviner wiz is sometime better suited for later on once you get a good feeling of DnD. And I personally dislike warlock except hexblade (non meme build of course).

>>55077936
According to SKT a 2 inch thick 11 feet long piece of adamantine weighing 1,000 pounds is worth about 15,000 gold.

>Find Traps
>2nd-level Divination (Cleric, Druid, Ranger)
>Casting Time: 1 action
>Range: 120 feet
>Components: VS
>Duration: Instantaneous

>You sense the presence of any trap within range that is within line of sight. A trap, for the purpose of this spell, includes anything that would inflict a sudden or unexpected effect you consider harmful or undesirable, which was specifically intended as such by its creator.

Isn't this extremely vague? Animated dead or golems would count, among other things.

>>55077988
>>55078054
Hmm.... Okay that gives me a price point. One of my players is thinking about dipping his stone fist into a nicer metal as an upgrade. That's why I'm asking about the precious metals.
What about diamonds? How big is a 300 gp diamond?

>>55078104
you know what a trap is anon

although it wouldn't break the game, considering it only detects traps in line of sight, and golems are not usually all that subtle.

>>55078133
Fairly small, you can make this up as a DM, it depends on how fine cut the diamond is and overall how nice it is. But I'd say smaller than a dime easily.

>>55077377
Some kids going Lord of the Flies

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>>55078038
Went nova for the first time at the end of my groups strahd campaign. We let the npc in the jail go and he turned on us when we confronted strahd. I gave him the blood spear we looted from the head werewolf guy too and attacked me with it. Turned around, rolled a crit, used a level 3 smite on the bastard and absolutely blew him the fuck apart. Think It was 90 something total damage in the end. It was glorious

>>55078170
Resurrection spells and things like stone flesh are why I'm asking mostly. Cut wouldn't really matter for them but a price point is still given.

>>55078219
I'm playing a sorcerer in CoS currently and I plan to multi into paladin, cant wait to fuck some shit up.

We had a paladin for the Death House, he crit and basically made the end easy mode for us.

If i want play a feanorlike elf in 5e how should i build it and which class should i take? Kensai?

>>55076104
Natural weapons are not unarmed strikes, unarmed strikes have specific rules. You can make an unarmed strike as a wild shaped creature, and use unarmed strike rules, which allows you to use martial arts damage.

But that means you're not using the creatures natural attacks.

I'm running SKT. My players have just finished the sequence where they encounter Iymrith in the Eye of the All-Father. The cleric communed with his god to ask if Iymrith actually died in the temple collapse and found out the dragon is alive. Now they're convinced that if they go to the Storm Giant stronghold, it'll spell certain doom for them. The story revolves around the players going to the Maelstrom following this encounter. They can go around fighting the other giant lords, but I'm not confident they'll ever feel "ready" to go to the Maelstrom since Iymrith is there.

What do you do if your players are scared off of continuing the main quest?

>>55078337
Maybe I didn't make it clear

Martial arts says you can only use the bonus damage if you are using unarmed strike or a monk weapon. Natural weapons count as weapon attacks, so you can't use martial arts with them (but errata is that any being has unarmed strike, so a bear can still do martial arts damage)

HOWEVER, flurry of blows simply says "after an attack" and doesn't actually need you to be qualifying for martial arts damage to activate it (but since you didnt quality for the damage, you do the defualt unarmed strike damage and waste your time)

wild shape is in a very weird grey area where it's something that can do unarmed strike damage while "carrying" it's natural weapons that itself don't count as unarmed strike/monk, so it could be argued that you could bite and then flurry to get some martial arts hits.

>>55076668
Someone actually made a martial .pdf awhile ago that is kind of like that, but I apparently don't have the pdf. Whoops.

>>55078394
Have your players god to tell him to man the fuck up and do it. They are adventurers/heroes so what else are they good for?

>>55078410
Realistically, a "Monk" weapon is any one-handed simple weapon or shortsword with which you are proficient. I think most natural weapons would qualify--it's not like it's game-breaking or anything anyway. A 1d4 or 1d6 damage set of claws will only be a change of damage type after a few levels anyway.
I'd allow it, but not in a wildshape, because that's not what it means by "Monkey Style"

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How do I make a charasmatic, whip wielding, archeologist not a huge rip off of indiana jones?

Should I go shield+rapier dex paladin for oath of the ancients? or some other setup?

>>55078454
I would just run with it, if you're using a whip you're not going to avoid the comparison whatever you do.

>>55078454
Rip off Indiana Jones. That sounds great. There's nothing wrong with having "I'm basically Dr. Jones" be the starting point for your character.

>>55078454
You don't.

>>55078410
Yes. Any creature can make an unarmed strike. An unarmed strike has specific rules and damage dice associated with it. A bear can make an unarmed strike, and it uses the unarmed strike rules and damage dice. This means that the bear can use the martial arts feature. It does NOT mean it can make a bite/claw attack (or any other attacks that are listed in the profile) and have them count as unarmed strikes. There's nothing stopping a bear from using martial arts dice, BUT, it has to make unarmed strikes - it CANNOT use attacks from its creature profile.

Flurry of Blows is different. You CAN make attacks from its creature profile, BUT by recollection, "multiattack" is not the same thing as "an attack action". So, you CANNOT use a bears bite/claw multiattack and trigger flurry of blows, but you COULD make a bite OR a claw attack, and then trigger flurry of blows to make unarmed attacks with the martial arts damage dice, since these are martial arts attacks.

>>55078394
I'm also running SKT, just let them wander. I created some friendly NPCs that they've interacted with that can team up/guide them even though they have their own goals.
Example: I created a giant faction that's currently being led by a Cloud giant, high priest of Iallanis, and a Goliath, who is the descendent of the rightful ruler of Ostoria, Hartkiller. Their ultimate goal is to recreate Ostoria and unite all the giants together... But also probably destroy many of the cities in the north in order to achieve this.

I want to houserule that all my players get the maximum increase to their HP when they level up. Monsters will do more damage to compensate.

Is this a bad idea?

How do you make the elemental cults interesting? Or are they just really groups of people who worship elemental planes/elemental lords/etc?

>>55078454
That's Indy a nutshell, so...good fucking luck.

>>55078426
Isn't that a little railroad-y? I understand that my players aren't exactly confident about going to a place containing an ancient blue dragon that's already once tried to kill them.

>>55078521
I get the impression that my players aren't really the kind who take well to sandbox games. They've kind of been heavy on "what's the most important quest to follow". Wandering around in chapter 3 was pretty painful to be honest, since I didn't get the feeling that the players really wanted to stop and smell the roses and I couldn't get a good grip on what they wanted to pursue.

Basically I don't know where or what I'm supposed to plan for and I'm concerned that I won't have a good session if I'm unprepared.

>>55078556
Yes. Rolling for HP is a bad idea anyway. Just use the standard method of half the die size plus 1.

>>55078454
Have him spend days on end carefully brushing a single piece of pottery or writing boring papers. Have him not carry a whip because WHY THE FUCK WOULD AN ARCHAEOLOGIST NEED A WHIP. YOU HAVE A FUCKING GUN, THAT IS SUFFICIENT FOR ALL YOUR SELF-DEFENSE NEEDS.

>>55078609

I mostly want players to have lots of HP so that I can have monsters that do lots of damage. I know it's all relative, but still.

>>55078604
Fuck it man, escalate things. Have storm giants create massive storms over each of the Lords' alliance cities since they think they killed the king and queen. The ordning is destroyed right now so it's not like the girl on the thrown can stop some faction of storm giants from doing this.
Make it so that they either NEED to solve this shit or things are going to get nasty. Like war between giants and humans nasty.

>>55078335
I have no idea how you got the idea that Feanor is anything other than an artificer.

Also, Tolkien elves are fucking overpowered, and Feanor is one of the most overpowered of them all. He changed the whole history of the world, and his work rivaled that of the gods and even exceeded it in some ways. You can't be Feanor and also just be a random guy in a bar looking for work.

>>55078639
If all you want is numbers inflation, just double all the numbers. Or triple them, or whatever the fuck because big numbers mean nothing outside of context.

>>55078419
fuck, anyone have anything like this then?

What do you do to make a shove attack? Forego a weapon attack with no weapon and shove? Could you make a shove attack with a weapon in hand?

>>55078782
https://astranauta.github.io/rules.html#Combat
ctrl+f shove

>>55076668
>>55078770
https://archive.4plebs.org/dl/tg/image/1435/96/1435961027148.pdf
This is probably what you're looking for. It's closer to the bottom of the pdf.

>>55073164
Batman essentially, though he fights unarmed so id say nightwing

>>55078812
Yes I know, but it doesn't specify if you can have a weapon in hand or not. Ie, do you stow your we weapon or not?

So the group I got into DnD for the first time have finished the Lost Mine of Phandelver and are wanting to do Out of the Abyss next.

Any advice for starting that campaign with 5th level characters?

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How do you deal with PC stress? Do you think there should be a gameplay aspect to fear, stress and sanity?

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How do I become the spookiest necromancer I can be?

>>55078903
if i recall correctly, there's a actually a section in the DMG for this somewhere

>>55078038
sorry, what does going nova mean? I'm not seeing a spell called nova. Is it slang for avenging angel or something?

>>55079017
Because of the way smite works, you declare using it after you hit, so when you score a crit you use your highest spell slot available and do insane amounts of damage.

>>55078955
Yeah I believe it's under madness.

>>55079017
A nova is a nickname for one turn where you spend as many of your expendable resources as possible, usually to do lots of damage. Like a fighter/paladin using Action Surge to make four attacks and smiting with each one that hits.

>>55079033
>>55079061
gotcha, thanks

>>55077640
Exactly the same situation for me

>>55077908
Pick Paladin, then múlticlass into great old one Warlock anyway, but only for one or two levels because that's where all the good shit is at anyway, then stick to DEUS VULT

>>55077562
Can't, too busy rewriting sunless citadel for Curse of Strahd.

>>55077562
Been wanting to play as a revised ranger since release. Sadly, I'm in a state of foreverdm

>>55078955
>>55079037
Madness I like, but I don't like the Sanity Score and I feel like you should be able to use stress like a resource. Basically pushing yourself but making yourself more "vulnerable" at the same time.

So players are trying to earn an audience with the Raven Queen, what challenges should I put them through? Was thinking 4.

I came across these four incidentally online, but they seem really odd. Anyone have any ideas about how I could further flesh these out? Just need to do some brainstorming.

1. Shadowthorns: Stand in shrubs for three turns.
2. Bathe in a cistern for 3 turns (heal yourself if you like)
3. Get the bloodcrystal raven skull from a hole in the ground over there. It's a magic item.
4. Get a book from that library over there. Hold it in your hands.

>>55078927
Necromancer/bard, teach your skeletons to play trumpet.
Doot doot.

>>55079179
Maybe you could tweak the exhaustion rules a bit for what you're wanting to do

Alright so uh... How would you guys go about taking down the church of Kelemvor?

>>55079189
3 pillars of d&d, Role-play, exploration and combat

Make them talk, make them solve puzzles, make them fight.

>>55078927
Use thaumaturgy to make the rattling of your skeletons bones louder

>>55079217
VECNA FREAKS GET OUT REEEEEE

>>55076785

I have mixed emotions about all of this. I like some parts but I think I dislike the whole.

>>55079217
The same thing that destroyed modern churches, an educated populace.

*tips fedora*

Here's a bit of world/campaign design I'm struggling with.

How should a GM handle really exotic planar conditions in 5e, since it's no longer Casters: Caster Edition and there isn't a magical fix for hard vacuum or the ground being magma and the air being 95% fire.

Should I invent some spell for this, or some kind of ritual? Maybe a magic item?
I'm not sure what the ideal way to handle this in a story sense is.

>>55079241
Yeah I got that much.
I just meant some actual ideas as to what to do specifically fitting the theme of raven queen.

>>55079256
It's not me it's my PC who kind of worships/reveres vecna. He's getting wrapped up in something bigger than he should because he wants everyone to have undeath.
Currently I'm thinking that the cult of Vecna will collect (or attempt to) myrkal's crown of horns and use it to try and corrupt a high ranking Kelemvor priest, creating a schism.

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>tfw you're a paladin and your cleric bro starts accepting dark gifts from the amber sarcophagi

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>>55079351
>tfw you're a fighter and your wizard just got charmed

>>55079189
Bring her the head of a powerful undead creature.

Erase all memory of a particular ancient kingdom from humanoid culture. Burn records, loot libraries, tear down monuments, and kill the last elf to have lived there.

Endure waiting in the vestibule in her palace in the Shadowfell, during which time they must roll to resist Shadowfell despair.

>Playing lawful good paladin
>On the first encounter our rogue goes down
>The Fighter decides it's a good idea to kick the rogue while he's down

what the fuck should I do about this punk?

Why is Out of the Abyss so good?

>>55079397
Is "eye for an eye" good-aligned?
You could restrain the fighter and let the rogue rough him up a bit.

>>55079288
The Raven Queen is a riff off the Morrigan who a triple goddess herself, and each one of those aspects has a different personality. Basically hippy Feather Queen, Tsundere black queen, and turbo bitch, get out of the way Red queen.

Each one of your challenges play into those three aspects, doing the most important thing God's ever do to man, which is totally teach a lesson and maybe inspire

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>>55079286
magic equipment makes most sense to me, because it's an effect you generally want to be indefinite, not something that needs to be applied and reapplied (your players may or may not consider it fun to be on a time limit that instantly kills them when it runs out). you could turn obtaining that equipment into a plot hook in its own right.

>>55079414
Because you had fun with it :)

>>55078675
You know what, that's a good idea. It makes sense that Iymrith would see her plans as threatened and move for a coup in the Maelstrom, motivating the treasonous sisters to create storms.

Is there any information on storm giants actually creating storms? I know there's that storm giant variant from Volos that IS a storm, but that doesn't seem appropriate.

>>55079397
Finish the fight, then confront the Fighter about him being a douchebag.
Tell him that you're on the same team, and that he doesn't have to like the Rogue to be a god-damned professional, and that if he wants his cut he's going to shape up.
When he objects, tell him "This is not a negotiation, you will be a team player or we will not have you."

Basically, google "how to deal with a problem employee"
Step 1 is "talk to them"
Step 2 is "reprimand or demote"
Step 3 is "fire them"

If you're putting your life on the line, you have no obligation to keep people around who might stab you in the back. That's not even a Paladin thing, that's just a not-being-a-dumbass thing. If he doesn't play ball as a character, send him away.
I mean, or smite him if you think he deserves it.

>>55079286
Why is it so important that your players be able to survive hard vacuums and rivers of lava? Is that really desirable? All the planes I can think of already have large habitable areas in them, even the plane of fire.

>>55079456
You don't need to explain it more than "They're STORM giants. They're known to travel with storms, and make them through their native magics."
Done.

>>55078675
>on the thrown

>>55079456
Storm giants have control weather as a three times a day spell. They control the weather up to five miles for 24 hours with three castings.

>>55079446
Thanks, bro :)

>>55079468
It's a homebrew setting.
I always found adventure modules and prebuilt settings to be like off-the-rack suits. No hate to people who like them, but I'd rather put in the extra to make something tailored.

>>55079501
On the throne*
My apologies but the point stands the girl can't do nothing and everyone should be able to sense it. This is partially all the chiefs are doing their own dangerous things.

>>55079510
Then maybe take a hint from what already exists. Just have areas that the PCs can travel in as they are now rather than having to bullshit an immunity device that they will certainly use in ways you never intended. Don't try to tailor a suit without knowing what the parts of a suit are.

>>55079456
I'm not even thinking of the sisters though them being further manipulated makes sense. The average storm giant would be down for this shit. It is Maug to kill a giant that is Maat and the King Hekaton and his wife were the definition of Maat storm giants.

>>55076040

I'd say that or if you can sneak in UA the teleportal Ranger or the Nomadic Mystic.

Is booming blade better with a melee warlock with war caster or is casting blade ward on opportunity attacks better?

>>55079658
>enemy walks away from you
>better use a shitty defensive cantrip instead of making the fucker explode
You tell me anon

so I want to import the info from the github 5e tools site (they have a link to the .js file) into roll20. do i have to have a subscription to do that?

>>55079658
You can't use Blade Ward with Warcaster anyway since it doesn't target the creature that provokes the AoO.

>>55079678
Topkek.

>>55074954
Is that Sithrak?

>>55079787
Not OP, but yes it is

>>55079787
>>55079801
He is the best God.

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stat me

Anyone else want UA for crafting rules that aren't total shit? I get the system would probably get abused by power gamers but it really makes no sense. 10 gp each day no matter what you're trying to do? Isn't an ink pen like 2 cp so you can make 5,000 pens each day? I'm obviously exaggerating but still. Feels like a part of the system they just didn't bother to do.

>>55079872
Have you seen the Downtime UA? It has good crafting rules.

>>55079872
The only way to get all the details right lile that would be to have a giant table with the time to make every item a player might possibly want to make, along with production costs and the like, and that woukd be horseshit.

How do I trickery cleric? dip a level of rogue or bard? But having on-demand advantage might be nice with GWM too..

>>55079847
Commoner with Tavern Brawler

>>55079946
As a trickery cleric you are not the thief. You are the guy whispering evil counsel to the thief and ensuring he never escapes his life of crime.

>>55079951
>stat me
>no ability scores
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>>55079971
Str 10, Dex 10, Con 10, Int 3, Wis 10, Cha 7.

>>55079801
>>55079813
All hail Sithrak!

Also, Zalgo and Inglip.

>>55079965
But dipping a level of rogue allow you to do that even better.

When the cantrips refer to higher levels, are they referring to class level or spell level?

>>55080143
Class level. 11th and 17th level spells don't exist.

>>55080152
Ah, thanks, man.

>>55080152
How would they interact with multiclassing? Is it overall level?

>>55080182
Yes, it's overall level.

>>55080201
Thanks heaps, bro!

>>55080129
You're missing your highest-level spells half the time for shit you never want to use.

>>55080224
Proficiency bonus follows this rule as well in case anyone's wondering.

Is Drawmiji's Instant Summons as good as it looks, because it looks good to me

>>55080241
> expertise in Perception
> never want to use

>>55080324
It's exactly as good as it looks, which is pretty terrible save for big occasions when you need to pokeball an ally NPC for the right time

>>55080405
It's good combod with Glyph of Warding.

>>55080332
Skills are overrated. You can get through most dungeons without making a single skill check. Perception in particular is not worth going out of your way to get because everyone takes it.

>>55080129
Consider playing a Bard instead.

You key off your Trickery ability, you get expertise all the same, and just about every spell that matters you get as well.

You won't get to turn undead or ask Loki to autofix shit, but vicious Mockery is such a nicer cantrip than sacred Flame anyway.

>>55080495
Really? Run me through this one.

>>55080405
Its just mostly uh oh were kidnapped and they took our equipment, quick let me crush my very well hidden sapphire and get me my arcane focus/staff of power back and we'll be out in no time

>>55080540
It's pretty simple really.
>put glyph on object
>Instant Summon object
>Object has moved less than 10 feet (since unless otherwise stated teleporting≠movement)
>Glyph is still intact

It's needlessly complicated but lets you use Glyphs for more than just overlyexpensive traps.

>>55080554
Yeah, that's basically what it's for, that and getting back your spellbook, but it's something you will have to balance out against the likeliness of you facing that type of challenge at that point in your adventure.

>>55080583
You never know man those elves are sneaky fuckers

>>55080290
Thanks, bro.

>>55080609
Can't argue that

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>>55080738
Especially those drow fuckers, damn dark elves come by the hundred just to kidnap adventurers

Rolled 9, 16, 19, 9, 20, 7 = 80 (6d20)

Check this arcane trickster

>>55079610
>>55079502
>>55079482
Thank you for the help y'all.

I've texted my players asking where they'd like to go next. They're interested in investigating Cloud Giants, since they want to avenge Nightstone and I've had more Cloud Giant attacks in major cities. So I'll let them investigate that and meet Felgolos who can maybe talk up the players and encourage them and talk about the wyrmskull throne. Then once they leave they find that massive hurricanes and tornadoes have rocked the sword coast.

>>55080852
Damn, can't even shit talk this one

>>55080852
Guess I won't be using spells with saves or attack rolls

>>55080865
Because he'll hear you

>>55080852
Good luck with charisma saves.

>>55079443
I'm a bit mixed though, because then I can't make it like... THE Goron Tunic.
It'd have to be *A* Goron Tunic so the whole party can fit it.
I feel like that might take some of the specialness away from magic items if they're something that there's a half-dozen of.

>>55079443
You could use reflavored efreeti chain for goron tunics

>>55080922
How about a magic charm? Something cast by a big juju'ed fire Primordial that lasts for 48 hours or something until it runs out?

That might add some tension to the quest

Rolled 11, 10, 12, 15, 2, 9 = 59 (6d20)

>implying this isn't a stone sorcerer