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40k is therapeutic edition

>Death Guard preview
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/22/codex-death-guard-first-lookgw-homepage-post-2/

>Konor Campaign: Chaos finally got ONE
https://konor.warhammer40000.com/

>GW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/23/updated-faqs-and-boots-on-the-groundgw-homepage-post-2/
>FW FAQ (1.1):
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/15/new-and-updated-forge-world-faqs-july16gw-homepage-post-2/
>Codex: Space Marines FAQ
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/10/codex-space-marines-errata-now-available/
>Codex: Chaos Space Marine supplement for Daemons, Thousand Sons and Death Guard players
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/13/daemons-and-thousand-sons-in-codex-chaos-space-marines-aug-13gw-homepage-post-2/
>Codex: Chaos Space Marine and Codex Grey Knights FAQ
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/20/chaos-space-marines-and-grey-knights-updates-now-availablegw-homepage-post-4/

>Rules and such. Use Readium on pc/iphone, lithium/kobo on android:
>Everything 8th edition in properly converted pdf & epub, fully bookmarked and linked with in-line errata annotations
https://mega.nz/#F!bF0ExS4D!_XaMECn0K9HiJKUFSopJLA

>Other Megas
https://mega.nz/#F!64wmnBZR!rWcm37EkOOeToeueqhPjpA
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!9NchGZyZ!-V1LhJALxDp9Tw97WzEQGA
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ

>WIP Math-hammer doc (Chart-Anon doing the Emperor's work)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing
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>>55045782
first for black templar!
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>>55045782
2nd for IG waifus
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>>55045785

Too lanky and legs are way too long. Sure lithe is fine and thematic but a bit more proportionate would be nicer
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>>55045816
This is the only IG waifu i need!
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>>55045821
true enough. its a long shot but im hoping they release a warlock titan so there is an eldar counterpart to the warlord titan.
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>>55045782
how do i into thousand sons? do i more space marines or more demon or equal amount? should tzangors be treated like cultists?
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Were do chapters get their vehicles from? Do they just tell the nearest forge world to hand stuff over, or is there an actual process?
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Thinking about building a mech IG army and I need some help here, how do I make this 1572pts list 2000 ?
I'm thinking maybe one more squad and some Hellounds, but I feel that I'm a bit short on both big game hunting and horde management.

>HQ
Knight Commander Pask - Lascannon, Battlecannon - 209pts
Company Commander - Laspistol, Chainsword – 30pts

>ELITE
Master of Ordonnance – 38pts
x6 Command Squad – Lascannon Team, Plasma gun, Vox Caster – 68pts

>TROOP
Infantry Squad – Autocannon team, Vox Caster – 60pts
Infantry Squad – Autocannon team, Vox Caster – 60pts
Infantry Squad – Autocannon team, Vox Caster – 60pts

>HEAVY SUPPORT
x3 Manticore – Stormeagle Rockets, Heavy Bolter - 399pts
x2 Leman Russ Battle Tank – Battlecannon, Heavy Bolter - 324pts
x2 Leman Russ Battle Tank – Battlecannon, Heavy Bolter - 324pts


Thoughts ?
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Ok lads red pill me on Chinese resin, will I actually get cancer or is that a meme? the main threat is small particles right so it doesn't matter what resin you use as long as you use a mask and are careful?
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>waiting for Cron codex
>no release in sight
>underpowered vs imperial/heretics
>can predict stratagems regardless since this edition was made for children
>by the time codex comes out 8th will be over and 9th will be even more dumbed down

Why can I not simply move on?
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40k survey time!
Time to see what kinda community /tg/ is
So here's some questions
>what army do you play
>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
>do you own any forge world?
>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
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>>55045879
You probably already have cancer due to using 4chan at all. Didn't you ever read the fine print at the bottom? If you're posting and not wearing a mask now, it's too late.
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>>55045879
Nah, with Chinese resin they might make it with dangerous shit. You'll know because it will reek of petrol.
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>>55045878

You are troops light, and your troops are just standing around with their dicks out while your tanks make up the bulk of your army. They look like an afterthought.

Pay 225 to buy 3 chimeras and put your infantry in them at the very least. Pay another 120 for a 4th squad and chimera, another 30 for a second company commander so you have enough orders to go around for them, put hunter killer missiles on everything.
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>>55045908
>>what army do you play
Deathguard, eldar, and tyranids

>>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
mainly choppy but you got to bring shooty a little

>>do you own any forge world?
Yea, CSM line is pants on head retarded without legion upgrade kits

>>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
I allow it, its all one company

>>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
swooping hawks

>>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
Macha
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How do I do orks without hundreds of boyz or dredmob?
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>>55045908
>>what army do you play
Marines (main army), crons, daemons, 1k sons, orks, gaurd
>>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Depends on the list.
>>do you own any forge world?
Yes
>>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
Yes.
>>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
Vindicators.
>>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
SoB.
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>>55045908
>what army do you play
Death Guard, am new so go for one of the starter set guys.
>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Mixed
>do you own any forge world?
Nope, don't plan to. That shit is expensive and gives you cancer.
>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
I'd probably allow it, FW is not for me but I guess other people can fuck around with it why not.
>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
Soul Grinders. They are terrible at shooting and unreliable at melee. Give them power of the machine spirit at least.
>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
I dunno, Eldar or something?
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>>55045908
>what army do you play
GK main, with BA, Orks, DE/Ynnari, Necrons and Imperial Fists in various stages of development.

>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Primarily choppy. Learning how to do shooty though.

>do you own any forge world?
No and no plans to in the forseeable future.

>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
If you have easy access to the rules and the FW model for it, sure.

>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
Paladins. They need to be cheaper. Okay, I kid. In all seriousness? Wyches probably. They are still very very meh.

>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
Celestine.
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>>55045977
>death guard
>those 7s

Nurgle bless
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>>55045871
Scarab Terminators are quite good, everyone gets a 4 shot s4 -2 gun. Soulreaper is like a grav cannon for 15 points, Hellfyre is only 22 instead of 50 like a cyclone. You get one of each per 5 guys. No penalty to fire with moving. All is Dust is better for them since it keeps them at 2+ vs heavy bolters and assault cannons. They're only 40 points each with basic loudout. I'd bring 10.
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>>55045898
Can superman even get drunk?
Also I feel ya man, my necrons feel like underdogs in every game they play when the "muh reanimate!!" High starts to wear off
I still enjoy playing them even if they are shit, is recomend getting a monolith or kitbashing one since the model is shit, that's breathed some new life back into my army
>tfw your monolith "carrying" 10 immortals dies turn one to a massive deep strike and you still manage to tie the game
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>>55045874
Some chapter forges are capable of producing some vehicles. Otherwise they order them from forge worlds through their Techmarines. Remember that Techmarines have joint allegiance to their chapter and the Adeptus Mechanicus.
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>>55045908

>IG
>Everything
>Yes, quite a bit
>Allow it
>chimera, since I'm biased
>The Callidus assassin, assuming I can convince her to shapeshift into a young Christina Hendricks first
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>>55045953
Nobz? Speed freaks? Mek gunz? Pick one of the specialist detachments and go nuts, dude. Out of the three, the nobz option is probably the weakest, IMO but they are all casual levels of solid. Now if you're looking to top 8 in a tourney, I am not your guy so I can't help you there. Sorry man.
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>>55045977
>what army do you play
>Death Guard

>Nope, don't plan to. That shit is expensive and gives you cancer.
>gives you cancer

you make papa sad!
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>>55045908
>what army do you play
Orks and GSC
>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Mix, though I probably lean toward choppy
>do you own any forge world?
Nope
>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
I probably wouldn't care. If something very specific was a problem, I could see banning shit on a per model basis.
>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
I want to start SoB and get an Exorcist purely for looks. So it being buffed as well would be nice.
>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
Celestine
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>>55045908
T'au

Shooty

One of those Great Unclean Ones because I love the model. But I don't use it.

I would allow FW stuff.

Sniper Drones.

A THICC Earth Caste lady.
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Anyone know what model is this >>55043218 ? I mean the green one
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>>55045944
If I take them into chimeras, shouldn't I just ditch the Autocannon teams tho ? I just don't really see the point in putting my dudes into transports other than making them more durable. They can't shoot from Chimeras and the Commander can't issue order either. For the price of 3 chimeras, wouldn't it just better to take 4 more squads ?

Also, thoughts on giving more than the bare minimum weapons to the Battletanks ?
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>>55045863
More like Psi-Titans when to shoo away the elf scum
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>>55046015

Nah, I'm not looking for tourney wins at all, just casual level, really.
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>>55045908
>guard and necrons
>mostly shooty but I always like to throw in a bit of choppy for screening
>yes, mostly cool guard stuff, no broken shit... yet
>id allow it, if things got out of control or if one asshole starting bringing broken shit I'd have some restrictions and maybe a ban list if it got really bad
>chimeras, since I own six and love mech guard
>a sister of battle who's actually a boy
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>>55045953
Trukks with Tank Busters, Burna Boyz, or Skorcha nobs inside, Bikers, Stormboyz, and Kommandos. Mega nobz in a Battlewagon or a Kill Tank, Mek Gunz with Kustom Mega Kannons.
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>>55046051
Then yea, go with any of those three detachments and go nuts. I like the idea of speed freakz and storm boyz tearing it up the battlefield myself but I really really love fast units. You go do you and have fun at it.
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>>55045898

>been waiting for new IG models for ages
>new edition rolls around, 5 power armor codices planned to come out in first 6 months, no sign of IG anywhere
>by oversight of designers, IG is overpowered, making everyone hate them
>don't even have the shine of newness to make the unending sea of salt tolerable. You have old models and everyone hates you for existing anyway
>Undoubtedly GW will overreact and supernerf you when a book finally arrives, rendering you meh tier for another 6-7 years
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>>55045923
Shit this is a good point
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>>55046010
>Can Superman even get drunk?

Not under usual circumstances.
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>>55045908
>T'au
>Shooty
>No
>I would run two tournaments - one for everything and one for non-FW
>__grots__
>pic related - I would kiss her asshole with tounge
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Looks like Chaos has an early lead. Can it hold?
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>>55045908
>>what army do you play
Tyranids / Orks / SoB
>>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Choppy / Mixed / Get Fucked Tanks (Melta Shooty)
>>do you own any forge world?
Does my Armourcast Exocrane count?
>>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
Warriors / Nobs / Take your pick
>>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
...SoB...? Maybe cultistchan?
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>>55045908
>Army
Horus Heresy Sons of Horus/Luna Wolves can't really play them with most people since HH didn't/probably won't get an 8th port, will probably look into mechanicum soon and maybe a xeno/horde type army

>Style
Hybrid, but emphasis on closer range

>Own ForgeWorld
It's a Horus Heresy army, shouldn't be hard to guess

>Allow ForgeWorld
Yeah, don't have a problem with it at all, just don't be that guy in general

>Buffed
I want Horus Heresy in a less dumbed down 8th

>Kiss
Which race has the best thicc and tall women?
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>>55045944
1st of all, you need to have a company or platoon commander in your army for each command squad, but also those command squad setups are a waste.

Scrap 2 entirely, and have 4 squads of 4 plasma/melta (plasma is better due to range, but have 1 squad of melta too)
Take 2 chimeras and put 2 command squads in each along with a company commander in each. Then with your freed up elites slots take 2 platoon commanders and use them to order your infantry squads. Consider putting special weapons in your infantry squads too.
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>>55046116
>Magic 8-ball says "Ask again Sunday night."
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>>55045908
>what army do you play
Guard/Tsons/Wolves/Eldar
>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Mix and Physic Superiority
>do you own any forge world?
Chinese
>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
Allow you spaz
>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
Implying I play the game
>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
Female guardian. 2EZ
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>>55046133
Oops, was meant for >>55045878
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>>55046010
The Mono is a sad slab of junk. 381 points for what? A 20 wounds transport that has a 3+ save that can't kill anything? Other players love it when they see that hit the board it is easy to kill and can't kill anything back for its ludicrous cost.
>Makes me sad
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>>55046033
Jessie's hair not defying gravity is weird to see
>pour one out for meowths VA
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>Play my first game of 8e with my friends.
>Tfw they looked so unhappy when I managed to alpha strike their squishy mechanicus/Tau and wipe half their army with Da Jump.
I know Orks have been shafted for a long time, and their new warp powers are really great, but the despair I saw in their eyes...Is it all really worth it?
The answer is yes.
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>>55046152
it also takes double damage from macro weapons :^)
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>>55045898
Hey being last on the codex lost means a higher chance of getting new figs right?!
>gods I hate the resin Flayed Ones
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>>55045908
>le forge world is broken meme

Point out something from any IA index that can overpower the current top tier lists.

Oh wait, you can't, because you have no idea how the 40k competitive meta works to begin with.
Sure, they print stupid shit like the Mars Pattern Leman Russ, but these units aren't game breaking by any stretch of the imagination.
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>>55045908
>what army do you play ?
Necrons

>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Shooty, with a Praetorian/Wraith vanguard... and Anrakyr...

>do you own any forge world?
Own? No. Want? Not within my own faction.

>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
Allow it. FW takes me to flavor town (unlike 90% of vanilla).

>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
I assume out of my own faction:
Trazyn stands up with 1d3 wounds after replacing a full-health 4 or 5 Wound Lord/Overlord. Why is he my Warlord? Trash.
Honestly, I feel the crons are pretty balanced this go around. Flayed Ones cost too much, but that has been since forever.
Deathmarks suck, but that's because almost ALL sniper units suck.
Doom/Night Scythes suck and don't have hover? Issues.
Tank is expensive... ehh... not sure what needs to be done to it. I wont field it till I feel its worth it.

>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
Again, I assume out of my own faction: The Silent King. He needs to feel the love.
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>>55046166
Oh and it does not have the Transport Key word so no moving you unit(only one unit at a time!) After they get out.

Damn Crons are trash. They must have spent one afternoon writing that index.
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>These God-engines, properly classified as Terranic Pattern Warlord-Sinister Psi-Titans, were each rebuilt around an Emperor-designed psychic amplification matrix device called the Ciricrux Anima. In place of the standard Titan configuration of Mind Impulse Units, it was this which controlled and empowered the Warlord-Sinister and in place of the Moderatii that would normally crew a Battle Titan, the Psi-Titans were instead crewed by what might be considered the damned -- bound psykers surgically locked in place and slaved to the will of the Preceptor-Intendant who mastered the God-engine in place of a Princeps.
>By direct cortical control, the power and spirit of the bound psykers were siphoned off and focused by the arcane technologies of the Ciricrux Anima, the baleful device that truly makes the Psi-Titan what it is. This energy was controlled by a techno-arcane interface quite unlike that of a standard configuration Mind Impulse Unit, while much of the Psi-Titan's other functions were slaved to sub-automata systems and Machine Spirit homunculi. Set at the heart of the storm of these energies, the Preceptor-Intendant sat in a shielded command crucible in the Titan's head. But even this was insufficient to entirely protect them from the psychic forces at play, and so each Titan commander of the Ordo Sinister was a psychic Blank, an Untouchable
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>>55046201
>they print stupid shit like the Mars Pattern Leman Russ

Am I missing something, just looks like a Russ to me.
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>>55046096
Astra Militarum is due in the first wave of codexes. Warhammer Community noted that 'forge worlds and astra militarum regiments' will have chapter tactic equivalents 'soon' and the admech are right after death guard.

They are going to get nerfed to hell though.
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>>55045908
>what army do you play
Orks primarily
>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Mostly choppy, but I throw a good deal of mechanized walkers in there too.
>do you own any forge world?
Not currently, but that's the benefit of playing Orks, you can kitbash anything.
>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
That's a tough call. There's a lot of flavorful stuff in FW, but a lot of broken stuff too. For instance, I have a list of Snakebite Orks, and Squiggoths are a big part of my strategy, so if I banned FW that'd be gone. I guess I'd allow it and hope it doesn't get too bad.
>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
I'm still pretty new to 8e (I've only played one or two games.) but looking at my index...Stompas. Poor poor Stompas.
>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
Probably a female Howling Banshee.
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r8 my Badrukk
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Should I change anything or is this a solid list for 1000pts games? No crisis suits into commander converting please

Battalion Detachment +3CP (T'au Empire) [60 PL, 999pts]

HQ
Cadre Fireblade [3 PL, 50pts]: Markerlight, MV1 Gun Drone
Ethereal [3 PL, 50pts]: Honour blade, Hover Drone

Troops
Strike Team [4 PL, 51pts]: MV1 Gun Drone
- Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Markerlight, Pulse pistol, Pulse rifle
- 4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle

Strike Team [4 PL, 51pts]: MV1 Gun Drone
- Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Markerlight, Pulse pistol, Pulse rifle
- 4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle

Strike Team [4 PL, 48pts]: MV1 Gun Drone
- Fire Warrior Shas'ui: Pulse rifle
- 4x Fire Warrior w/ Pulse Rifle

Elites
XV8 Crisis Battlesuits [14 PL, 267pts]: 6x MV1 Gun Drone
- Crisis Shas'ui: 3x Plasma rifle
- Crisis Shas'ui: 3x Plasma rifle
- Crisis Shas'vre: Drone controller, 2x Plasma rifle

XV8 Crisis Battlesuits [14 PL, 267pts]: 6x MV1 Gun Drone
- Crisis Shas'ui: 3x Plasma rifle
- Crisis Shas'ui: 3x Plasma rifle
- Crisis Shas'vre: Drone controller, 2x Plasma rifle

Fast Attack
Pathfinder Team [4 PL, 48pts]: MV31 Pulse Accelerator Drone
- 4x Pathfinder: 4x Markerlight
- Pathfinder Shas'ui: Markerlight, Pulse pistol

Pathfinder Team [3 PL, 40pts]
- 4x Pathfinder: 4x Markerlight
- Pathfinder Shas'ui: Markerlight, Pulse pistol

Dedicated Transport
TY7 Devilfish [7 PL, 127pts]: 2x MV1 Gun Drone, Burst cannon
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>>55046201
Was just asking a question, I know there's a lot of contention about it which is mostly leftover from where they were bonkers from last edition, personally I have no issue with 90% of it
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>>55046340
Needz moar dakka.
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I'm sad now. I got to the tier of stuff for my GW's birthday that involved the book-bag (wanted), notebook (eh), and deck of cards (hyped a little bit) but the cards ended up literally just being plain old cards with a 40k themed back. I was all excited thinking they were gonna have special stuff for the cards, but no.
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>>55046163
>>Tfw they looked so unhappy when I managed to alpha strike their squishy mechanicus/Tau and wipe half their army with Da Jump.
Either your friends are shit players, you broke the rules or most likely both.
Any army like tau, AM or IG shoul aleays have bubble wrap to their heavy hitters to prevent T1 charges.
That said, I don't think there is any single unit in the game that could wipe out half of any-non hyper elite low model count army T1.
Which means you either broke the rule of 1, or even worse, brought a list designed to spam Da Jump in a narrative or open play game.
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>>55045908
Tsons
Shooty
Yes
Allow
Brimstone Horrors
Lofn on the forehead
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>>55046371
What are you going to do against vehicles?
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>>55046435
>brimstone horrors
>needing a buff
no
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>>55046284

It can mount a plasma cannon or multimelta on the hull as well as the sponsons
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>>55046439
but anon, vehicles don't exist in 8th
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>>55046371
drop those MLs on the Firewarriors, you'll also need some anti-armor to deal with tanks
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>>55046133
I think you missred, that's a single Command Squad of 6 men.

After modifications here's whats the list looks like at 1987pts

HQ
Knight Commander Pask - Lascannon, Battlecannon - 209pts
Company Commander - Laspistol, Chainsword – 30pts
Company Commander - Laspistol, Chainsword – 30pts

ELITE
Master of Ordonnance – 38pts
Platoon Commander - Laspistol, Chainsword – 20pts
x5 Command Squad – x5 Plasma guns – 65pts
x5 Command Squad – x5 Plasma guns – 65pts
x5 Command Squad – x5 Plasma guns – 65pts
x5 Command Squad – x5 Melta guns – 90pts

TRANSPORTS
Chimera – Multi-Laser, Heavy Bolter – 93pts
Chimera – Multi-Laser, Heavy Bolter – 93pts

TROOP
Infantry Squad – Autocannon team, Vox Caster – 60pts
Infantry Squad – Autocannon team, Vox Caster – 60pts
Infantry Squad – Autocannon team, Vox Caster – 60pts

HEAVY SUPPORT
x3 Manticore – Stormeagle Rockets, Heavy Bolter - 399pts
x2 Leman Russ Battle Tank – Battlecannon, Heavy Bolter - 324pts
x2 Leman Russ Battle Tank – Battlecannon, Heavy Bolter - 324pts
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>>55046403
I'd say have is a bit of a stretch. It was a 2v2 1k point match. I destroyed two of the Mech's units in shoot and in charge. Then went to town on what little he had left while my partner dealt with the Tau until I could trukk my Nobz to the other corner of the table. To be fair, the Mech player doesn't know what bubble wrapping is I think, so I was able to easily gut the heavy hitters in his army.
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>>55046034
A Leman without triple Heavy Flamers is a sad Leman
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>>55045908
>Thousand Sons and Tzeentch Daemons
>Mix- psyker heavy
>no
>yes
>Ahriman
>Callidus Assassin disguised as your mother
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>>55046447
>Not making them 2 pts again and giving them a 2nd wound
There are TWO of them per base.
Guardsmen are the same way with Heavy Weapons
TWO Guardsmen TWO Wounds
TWO Brimstones ONE Wound

Bullshit
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>>55046470
>what are Stormravens
>>
I had a dream last night in which I was at a mall slaughtering people and guards with a chainsword, and a massive grin on my face.

How has 40k positively impacted in your life, /tg/?
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>>55045908
>Genestealer Cult with Tyranids, Necrons
>Mostly choppy Cult, 50/50 Necrons
>Yes, both for Nids & Crons
>Allow with limitations or mission designs that fuck over super-expensive turbo-murder lists
>Flayed Ones, since I have like 30 (metal) & they're fucking rad
>Kiss a radical Inquisitor, because she has to be fit & into some freaky shit. Maybe a Sister.
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Thinking of running ten Hellblasters with standard plasma weaponry.

Is this efficient for a Primaris heavy force? I really like them but ten plasma weapons are insanely expensive.
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>>55045908
>what army do you play
Grey Knights and Thousand Sons
>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Mix, leaning towards shooting
>do you own any forge world?
The FW GK land raider redeemer. When I use it (which is almost never) I just use it as a regular redeemer. No regrets, that tank is just damn sexy.
>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
If I'd ban things I would ban specific units, rather than banning based on where something was bought.
>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
GK Librarians. There's just no reason to take one ever right now, they cost more points than a Brother-captain but have worse stats and no buff aura.
>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
Yvraine's cat. What can I say, I have a soft spot for pets (and severe social awkwardness)

>>55046523
It's my only reason to live on and have social interaction.
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>>55046522
helldrake kibble
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>>55046371
Drop the Crisis for a hammerhead? Something anti armour is needed
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>>55046523
Its given me a flimsy pretext to interact with other people in person.
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>>55046560
But Helldrakes are <vehicles>, sooo... you proved my point.
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>>55046458
Well the normal ones can take a lascannon so that isn't a big deal. I guess its probably this co-axial thing but that adds less than 1 average damage to its gun if its within 24". So maybe they should have made it 15 points for expensive, not close to as bad as the SM Leviathan being about 80 points under-costed.
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>>55046517
They were already overpowered motherfucker, 3 points for a fucking 2W 4++ model would be utter bullshit.
Even a gun that hits and wounds on 2s with rerolls to hit and to wound would need either 4.47 shots or 4.47 damage to statiscally kill just one model.
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>>55046153
fahck
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How does one build a 1k pts Nids army on budget with no ebay stuff?
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>>55045782
>8E codex release cycle
>Space Marines
>Spikey Space Marines
>Shiny Space Marines
>Fat Space Marines
>AdMech
So, are we even going to see a Xenos codex this year? I hope not; my Thousand Sons aren't going to get a codex this year unless they are just completely shutting the xenos out.
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>>55046033
Looks like a Reaper model
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>>55045908
>GK, T'au, DEldar
>Mix, shooty, mix
>No Forgeworld
>Allow
>Well, Railsides already got a great buff, so Talos/Cronos. They took quite a hit this edition.
>Easy choice, DE Succubus, then devilishly grin as she pulls the knife out of my gut because I will have achieved true happiness
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>>55045908
>what army do you play
Custodes/SoS, Imperial Fists, Deathwatch, and Knights

>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Shooty with a light touch of choppy

>do you own any forge world?
So much shit. My Custodes are littered with it. IF too.


>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
No. FW is mostly acceptable

>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
Base level Space Marines; they're insanely fragile in this edition. Failing that? Ork Boyz

>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
Saint Celestine or Yvraine
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>>55046586
but helldrakes can't be vehicles, because vehicles aren't for sexual
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>>55046630
Tech-priests disagree with that statement.
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>>55046630
>heldrake (male)
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>>55046630
Slaaneshi Warpsmith?
The vacuum cleaner just wasn't enough anymore?
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>>55045908
>what army do you play
DE
>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
mix, choppy heavy
>do you own any forge world?
not on my salary
>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
outright ban if I can't ban specific units, because some of that shit is retarded
>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
Raptors so my NL Bros can be fluffy and not be gimped, or a faction wide buff for Daemon players so they can run mono and not be ass, or a Nid buff
>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose? I would kiss best girl Lilith
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>>55046630
Tell that to the AdMech
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>>55046614
>Reaper model
But what system?
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>>55046613
Who knows
TS's probably this year.
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>>55046340
Do you think his grot feeds him because he can't hold a spoon
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>>55046677
Toasters aren't vehicles either, anon.

but kudos for best OTP
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>>55045908
>Orks
>Mixed
>No, but looking to add a Meka Dread though
>Yes
>Burna Boyz, either need to be D3+1 shots or just the flat D6 like all the other flamers
>female Eldar?
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>>55046703
>toasters aren't vehicles
Not when I MOUNT it
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>>55046470
The memes are a little too close to reality, I want to kill vehicles I just slap a meltagun on some dude. I want to kill infantry I take a heavy bolter and its 1/3 as effective against marines, D6 was a mistake. They probably didn't forsee how effective it would be with plentiful command rerolls.
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>>55046703
>>55046677
HAIL THE INCARNATION OF THE EMPEROR'S DIVINE WRATH.
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>>55046560
>split an order with chaos friend for forge world
>it shows up
>he brings me a helldrake and says my lightning got corrupted and transformed into one
>mfw he forgot my model at home because he was too busy trying to make a dumb joke
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Looking to find a new army for when I can eventually start buying and building again, trying to decide.
Main decision is aesthetic, after my last army was nerfed into oblivion I just want to enjoy painting and making fluffy lists.
Help me pick between:
Orks, for their character, kitbash ability and just fun.
AdMech because of the bits of Skitarii I already have, conversions and lore as well as awesome FW models.
Or Chaos, for overall customizability?
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>>55046750
>Garfield_In_Toga.gif
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>>55046033
I got you flan
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>>55046702
At least he has a great toothpick
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>>55046745
>imouto-posting
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>>55046547
You might as well ask if conscripts are good for guard; yes hellblasters are one of the really nice things you get as primaris and you should take a healthy amount of them.

They're exactly the same price as devastators but have 2 wounds a pop and are brutal in rapid fire range
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>>55046116
>gay sex with robes on.

Admech is weird these days
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>>55045377
Is that sprue the weapons that come with it? I should ask my Chinaman for those.
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>>55046033
One of the Raging Heroes models.
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>>55046750
I would say Admech because I'm biased as fuck and love converting Admech things, but if you outstrip me in patience you could always wait and see what the Admech codex is like and decide then. If it fixes our problems or there's news from Cyraxis by then go Admech, if it leaves us fucked go Orks.
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What's the best anti armor option as IG ? Meltavets right ? Are melta cannons Hellounds worth considering ? I'm guessing that Vanquisher cannons are pretty bad, even on tank Commanders.
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>>55045908
>Army
Tau, Elysians
>Type of army
Shooty, pretty much all shooty
>Do I own FW
Well that isn't really a question considering my armies
>Would I allow FW in a tourney
Again, don't really have a choice
>1 unit buffed
Give strafing run back to flyers that had it in 7th, not 1 unit but it's my biggest gripe
>kiss one member of xeno/imperial faction
gibe dat thicc female water caste tau pls
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>>55045908

Armies: SM, IG, Tau, Orks, Nids

Style: Generally shooty

FW: Some weapon options, no full models

FW2: I'd allow it, but some of the shit is busted.

Buff: I'd like to see vanilla Assault Marines get some love.

Nerf (bonus!): Bobby G needs to cost 500+ for all he does.

Kiss: The Gemini, both of them.
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Does anyone know any third parties that produce Not!Dark Eldar blasters?

I know I can scavenge from various kits/convert from blaster pistols to create blasterborn but I was wondering if I could get something professional before I start fucking around with clippers and greenstuff. I bought legion plasma guns from Forgeworld to equip my scions with a shit-load of plasma and that worked well, was hoping to do the same with my Trueborn.
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>>55046875
melta Scions/Scion command squads, followed by manticores/basilisks

Devildogs are bad

Vanquisher cannons are bad
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>>55046875

Basilisks and Manticores are great AT, as are Scions with Meltas or Plasmas.
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>>55046875
meltascions are best option
lascannon hwt are good
lascannon tarantulas are good
lascannon vendettas can work
lascannon+hellstrike missiles can work on a vulture
>captcha is "lust rocket", kek
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>>55046907
>>55046900

Excuse me sir, are you me?

Do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior, Alpharius?
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>>55045908
>>what army do you play
Admech/Guard
>>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
shooty
>>do you own any forge world?
Mechanicum stuff, can't wait to use my thallax, medusa and thanatars
>>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
Not really, I'd ban lords of war though
>>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
i'd just like the rules for my admech, though buffing myrmidons would be great
>>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
Tough choice
Celestine would be a nice choice
But i would like to try Eldar, and macha is the only living named one i know that doesn't have a chance to have a dick
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>>55046875
Melta hounds are terrible since they get a negetive for moving
Ig is known for its anti armour, the best right now is
>plasma scions
>melta scions
>manticores
>lascanon weapons teams
>various leman Russ variants
And I'm sure I'm forgetting one or two, like I said there's no lack of options
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>>55046875
Listen
I know it sounds crazy, but
Okay, stay with me
(2) Heavy 20 Leman Russes
And, okay
So, Pask
Okay, so, 40 3+ and 20 2+
Fuck AP mods
You are GUARD!
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>>55045908
>Drukhari
>Shooty, on standby to become choppy if the 8th ed codex keeps wytches as good
>Nope
>Allow it, who not?
>Reavers
>Lelith Hesperax
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>>55046697
We have, what, five unknown codexes left this year? Eldar, Tau, Orks, Dark Eldar, and Necrons all deserve updates more than Thousand Sons. Not that faction size/importance matters that much (Grey Knights).
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Repulsor has fly. Does that mean I can park it on top of a building? Seems unfair to my opponent.

I mean, I'm fine with it but I can just imagine them whining about it.
A tank/transport able to pop up over impassable terrain is fucking mean.
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>>55046900
>>55046910
Do melta scions really do better AT for their points than plasma scions overcharging with orders?
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>>55046881
I don't know much about dark Eldar, but maybe look at just about any space elf shit. Also, you don't have to scavenge kits for bits these days. Bits can be got relatively easily from eBay and shit.
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>>55046941
Oh shit, Tyranids too.
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>>55045908
>Army
Tyranids, Started a deathguard army though
>choppy, shooty or a mix?
mix
>do you own any forge world
no
>would you ban forgeworld
no, they are as valid as though fucking Knights.
>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed
CARNIFEX
>Kiss one faction, What do you choose?
male custode
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>>55046804
That's fair. Just bought ten for $40.
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>>55046957
You underestimate how many blasters dark eldar spam. They're almost always sold out.
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>>55046745
did you beat on his chest and call him baka?
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>>55046950
Overcharge Plasma will average out more, but that is your alpha strike. You lose dudes on the rebound. I would field max 1 unit with minimum dudes and a dedicated melee prime.
>>
Can someone fill me in on the new edition, haven't played since 7th.

Is it better or worse?

Did they fix shit or has 40k been sigmarfied?
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>>55046875
Shadowsword, command reroll its # of shots every time it fires.
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>>55046933
You do realize doing anything physical with Lilith will probably result in a painful death?
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>>55045908
>what army do you play
Orks, Tau, Admech

>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Choopy, Mix, Shooty

>do you own any forge world?
Just the FW ork warboss on bike (zhadsnark)

>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
It's a really mixed bag. I'd allow it, but I wouldn't run a 40K tourney in the first place.

>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
All AsMech stuff at the minute is far too bland for my liking. I wanted to play crazy janky robotmen, not imperial guard.

>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
Some Eldar chick. They're the only faction that are hot both in memes and official sources.
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>>55046941
It could be interpreted as Ork/Deldar/Necrons being next year for sure if you carefully read one of the WH articles
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>>55047006
Its AoS in space.

Stay away.
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>>55047017
>the fucking nuclear option
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>>55047006
It's different. Significantly simpler than 7th, and the games go much faster.

I prefer it, even though the psychic phase has been gutted.
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>>55047006
They threw out lots of old, cancerous rules and made melee half decent but it does feel very simple at time with not many wargear options.

But arbitrarily decided lots of wargear load outs were no longer valid. Expect anything without a model to be removed from your codex, even simple things like the ability to give archons blasters or the ability to give the imperial guard anything but power swords.
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>>55047057
>IG
>Half measures
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>>55045908
>World Eaters
>RIP AND TEAR
>allow, so long as it's painted
>mutilators, have they ever been good at all?
>what kind of gay faggot question is that, you sissy faggot bitch?
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>>55046116
>bookmarks
>a single pdf from 4chan
See, this is innovative shitposting
Also did I miss H3 becoming a meme?
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>>55047046
Anyone who truly likes 7th edition can go jump in a fire.
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>>55045908
>>what army do you play
13th Company wolves. Metal Wulfen
>>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Mix. It used to be massed squads of wolves and wulfen in 3/4, but the rules are ancient history and now I'm playing mixed arms.
>>do you own any forge world?
A venerable dread. It looks so oddly tiny now.
>>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
I had a shitty experience with some recently, but that was more because a waacfag came to a prizeless friendly doubles tournament to jerk himself off.
I'd allow it.
>>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
I don't need any buffs, just gimme back the ability to bring a leman russ.
If I had to pick one, nid mcs. I miss nidzilla.
>>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
Celestine for sure.
>>
>>55047105
I liked 5th edition and GW is trying to pretend it doesn't exist with its flyer hate.
>>
>>55047100
I think he was just actually watching them
I'm happy they won their lawsuit
>>
Do we know how Primaris chapters recruit? Do they have scout equivalents? Trying to create some my dudes but I don't know how they recruit. Has GW bothered to tell us, or are they not bothering to tell us important, potentially interesting fluff.
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>>55046949
I don't see why not. It's not like charging it is easy anyway, since it has that field around it and it can just fly out of combat and unload on everyone.
>>
Are you supposed to thin Typhus corrosion?
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>>55047006
It works pretty well. FWIW people have been flocking from HH to 8th Ed. Rather than the other way around. Try going back to the archives on warhammer-communuty.com from about the start of May and reading the preview articles. They do a pretty good job covering the high points of the new design. Alternatively there are plenty of reviews around online.
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>>55047096
>>allow, so long as it's painted
that's some good damn thinking

>>mutilators, have they ever been good at all?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyZv4EghX_I
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>>55047022
Worth it.
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>>55047135
Depends on the effect you want. But no, it doesn't need to be thinned in the same way normal paint does.
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>>55047135
You certainly can, it changes how nasty and corroded it'll look
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>>55047046
>>55047077
Ok, thanks for the feedback.

Are GW still focusing on making a lot of big flashy kaigu models or have they reeled their shit in a bit?

>>55047080
>But arbitrarily decided lots of wargear load outs were no longer valid. Expect anything without a model to be removed from your codex, even simple things like the ability to give archons blasters or the ability to give the imperial guard anything but power swords.

Ok that kind of triggers me. I was gutted when they took out most of the deldar special characters because they didn't have models, even if they were a bit shit.

Still don't even have modern Vect model/rules
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>>55046957
Yeah, I have looks on Ebay/Bitz sites, unfortunately blasters are a really sought after weapon and our kits don't provide many of them so they're rare as hell/expensive.
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So I have these guys, and kinda want to start a small Deathwatch force. I figure a start collecting set and a Corvus Blackstar would be the base of it, is there anything else that a Deathwatch army really needs to be at least semi-decent? I'll probably back them up with Primaris of a homebrew chapter and/or Sisters of Battle for bigger games, so just looking for tips for a real small force.
>>
Would you play against an unpainted or just primed army?
>>
Do you think the Adeptus Mechanicus will get new models with the codex release? My gut reaction is yes since they are the first non-Space Marine codex release, that has to be a good sign right?
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>>55047187
I guess, wouldn't want to though.
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>>55047187
Absolutely, I will admit I would get progressively more annoyed the longer they went without making progress on the army, anyone that tells you they would outright refuse to play them are liers and autists
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>>55047187
Yeah, but then again I am looking to get some friends into the hobby. I'm going in expecting it'll take them forever to actually paint stuff, if they get started at all.
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>>55047100
Who the fuck knows really
though this is some clever shitposting
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>>55047173
>Are GW still focusing on making a lot of big flashy kaigu models or have they reeled their shit in a bit?

No real big models recently, other than Guilliman and Magnus, and Mortarion in the next few weeks.

Most of the new models are updated versions of older stuff, or are primaris marines.
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>>55047192
They release shortly after a big release, like GK+CSMs did, so I wouldn't count on it to be honest. Might be a buffer release between DG and next release with models
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>>55047187
I'd be weird if i did
>haven't had a chance to base my army and sit down and paint it because my living arrangements
>also too scared because of shit fine motor skills and can't spend the money on paying someone to paint it.
I figure grey > thick paints
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>>55045908
>what army do you play
Admec
>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Shooty but I'm gonna get some stompy bots and dragoons to fix that up a bit
>do you own any forge world?
No
>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
I don't really follow Forge World so I don' know, Lords Of War on the other hand...(So tired of Rowboat)
>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
Enginseer, love the model but he's kinda terrible
>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
Ghazghkull, I am certain he would show me a good time
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>>55047187
Sure. If they bought some new toys and haven't had the time to paint there stuff, I see no reason to be annoyed. If they make no progress ever, and are clearly never interested in getting their force painted, however, I'd probably prefer to play someone else, but I'd never refuse a game just for that reason.
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176th for Kabal of the Black Heart
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So are the Deathwatch as they appear from 7th onwards compared to previously just a straight up rip off of the Night's Watch or is there some cross pollination there?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3BhOWpurdc
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>>55047192
Maybe a few, but nothing serious. I don't think any of the factions between now and December will get more than 1-2 new models/units.

just please give me my fucking rubricae and psychic dreadnoughts
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>>55047192
If they were they would have been rumor engined for months already.
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>>55046612
Start Collecting
Swarm Box
Moar Genestealers
dun
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>>55047238
I'd play someone regardless, but I prefer thick paint over no paint.
Everyone starts shit, but they have the capacity to put in the effort of at least trying.
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What's your store like, /tg/?

I recently walked in four out of six games being Magnus vs Magnus.
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>>55046612
>brood progenitor box x2
>swarm box
gg no re
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>>55047216
>Mortarion
Didn't he get BTFO by our lord & sue Draigo?
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>>55047187
unpainted no, primed yes
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>>55047219
AdMech are my favorite Imperium faction but I know they need more models to fill in the gaps in their army.
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>>55047173
It's even worse, they're taking out wargear options that don't have GW model representation.
No more chaos lords or sorcerers or any chaos characters on a bike anymore and no mounts, no juggers or palanquins.
No more rifleman dreadnoughts.
I'm pretty sure someone said razorbacks are no longer allowed lascannon-double plasma turrets or double assault cannons anymore.

Expect the same treatment when the codex of whatever your army is comes out.
They'll get rid of the warboss on bike, they'll get ride of the mega armoured warboss, they'll get rid of daemonic heralds on mounts and the like.
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>>55047291
dem shards tho
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>>55047303
A long time ago yeah, but soon he'll be out on the TT with the new DG dex.
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>>55047187
I regually do already.
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>>55047309
That's entirely why I didn't try and hunt down a spare blaster for my archon.
If I really want it I can ask to proxy in the meanwhile, and when it's removed I don't need to change things.
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I'm looking at starting 40k and I'm thinking of going space marines. Is it worthwhile to buy the non primarius marines with 8th edition?
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>>55047303
He's supposed to be the star of this ultramarines vs death guard campaign but we're on week 4 of 6 and the fucker hasn't even SHOWN UP yet!
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>>55047185
Here's what I run at around 500 points.

Frag cannons will most of the heavy lifting, xenophase blades aren't necessary but I play against tau regularly so they're useful and combi-weapons are fucking rough. If you have to, feel free to advance and fire if you get within 8" because that's when the DEATH AND FIRE mode of the frag cannons kick in and they're assault autohit.
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>>55047187
Yeah, but I'd probably judge you unless you're new to the hobby.
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>>55045908
>>what army do you play
About 6,000 points of Dark Angels
>>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Actually a pretty good mix.
>>do you own any forge world?
I do not.
>>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
I'd allow it.
>>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
Saw Vindicators above, which is a good choice, but I have to go with Drop Pods. So expensive for what they do now!
>>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
Am I worried about what happens afterwards?
Eldar would be interesting, but they have... issues. Otherwise, a female Imperial iterator would be safer than a Sister, and she could actually hold an intelligent conversation.
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Is Ryza Rust supposed to be pretty much solid in the container, or did I get a bum supply?
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Does anyone have rules for the store birthday captain?
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>>55046116
Loyal to a fault
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I have a friend who

1.buys an army
2. assembles and primes the whole thing
3. drops it and buys a new army

I think he has add or a severe fear of painting

How can I help him? Also he keeps all his abandoned armies, doesn't sell a thing.
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>>55046613
Tsons are confirmed coming before Xmas
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>>55047315
>keks in new lore
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>>55046116
What a surprise Chaos is gonna get their 2nd one. They'll get the 3rd one as well so it'll be a draw. Screencap this. It'll be 3:3.
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>>55047372
>About 6,000 points of Dark Angels
>no FW

respect

>Otherwise, a female Imperial iterator would be safer than a Sister, and she could actually hold an intelligent conversation.

I don't think their conversational acumen affects their kissing ability, anon.
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>>55047358
Very cool, thanks. I'll keep some frag cannons in mind, sound like a fun time.
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>>55047385
Sauce fampai?
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>>55047347
yes, normal marines have tactical flexibility whereas primaris have staying power. Both have their uses and both are a fine choice, that said normal marines have a ton of support that pure primaris lack so take some time to read about the differences. If you are considering normal marines you should be able to find a ton of them for cheap via craigslist/kijiji or ebay
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>>55046677
Should be next op image
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>>55047385
if by confirmed you mean rumored, then yes, TSons in October
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>>55047309
What the fuck.

Half the fun of that shit was converting your own Lord to represent wargear there weren't any models for.

That was the coolest part of the hobby imo.

Have chaos actually lost all their mount options then? Makes me feel sorry for that dude who used to link the 5th edition Chaos Wargear image all the time.
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>>55047416
it's not confirmed, just rumored, it was up on faeit 212

list was;

>TSons
>IG
>BA
>DA
>SW

With the last three out in December
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>>55047410
They're Assault 2, S7, AP-2, D2 from 24-12". Assault 2, S9 AP-3, D2 from at 12" and Assault 2D6, S6, AP-1, D1, autohit at 8".

Spamming them was the name of the game in 7th, it's sort of toned down now since they were the only thing in the codex to actually go up in points and you're paying around 50 points for a 1 wound space marine.
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So Chaos are gonna win the 5th planet? Didn't GW confirm/leak somewhere that the result won't actually change the lore/story much?

>Those who cast the votes decide nothing; those who count the votes decide everything
>It's not the voting that's democracy; it's the counting.
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>>55047440
That butt-blasted guardfag is only telling you half the truth. You can still use the statlines and points costs for those units located on the Indexes, and they benefit from all the special rules and stratagems that apply.
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>>55046881
Chop up shredders take the "bulbs" from other guns duct the front off and glue it.
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>>55045879
>Chinese resin, will I actually get cancer or is that a meme?
I sadly don't know. The other Anon is right about it smelling foul, so they should be aired outside overnight at least. When working with potentially dangerous/cancerous chemicals/substances, the sensible thing to do is to treat it as if were highly cancerous. So when you handle it, clean your workstation often, wash your hands after working and wear a proper mask (there are different quality standards for particle filtration, so chose the best)
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At the moment you can use Agressors in a deathwatch army but like...

Is it a bad idea to set them up before the codex comes out? What if the valid primaris units for deathwatch radically change?
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>>55047382
Turn him on to a youtube channel with any really quick painting tips, or even just painting in general. I started painting again recently in part due to the Tabletop Minions channel (which got a whole thread bitching about it because the guy like AoS), mostly cause the guy has a soothing voice and gets me wanting to paint all my plastic toys. Also show him shit like pic related, painting doesn't have to be too involved unless you really, REALLY want to make every guy a showroom piece. Even if all he does is put a few base colors on, I'm sure it'll look pretty badass to see a whole force.

But if he's not actually playing, he should sell that shit. There are other gamers out there that would love to buy his hand-me-downs.
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>>55047129
>Primaris chapters
>humouring GWs horrific writing
Your what's wrong with this game faggot.
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>>55047301
That's a shit ton of models - gonna be fun as fuck. Should I also buy a hive tyrant kit to swap it with something?
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>>55047440
Yeah, they wanted to get back to basics so they gutted the rules and gutted ALL wargear,
Rams, spotlights, and all that other vehicle stuff? gone. They only kept hunter killer missiles and shock prows for DE. And that was just the index.

In the codex they proceeded to remove everything BUT Lord, jump pack lord and terminator lord, same deal for sorcerers but they added characters called "Exalted champions" which are like miniture chaos lords/dark aposals that allow all infantry near them to reroll to wound in the fight phase.
As much as I'm bitching about all the stuff we lost I actually really like chaos now, they're acually powerful and useable as a faction and are really fun to play.
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>>55047373
Yes, dry paint is nearly solid. You should be able to turn the pot upside down whipe open and it doesn't go anywhere. It's only used for drybrushing.
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>>55045908
>Aeldari
>Shooty with surgical-strikes of choppy
>Nope
>Would ask the players, idgaf because I wouldn't play in a tournament anyway
>Storm Guardians
>tfw no civilian eldar guardian waifu
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>>55046968
>>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed
>CARNIFEX

they're pretty good desu
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>>55047471
Only if you house rule it which is basically a no go in pick up games.
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>>55045908
>SM/AdMech/Necron/IG over the years, currently building Minotaurs
>A mix
>...sorta
>I'd allow forge world
>I'm way out of the loop on what's good or not, I've played one game in the last 6 years
>Female techpriest
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>>55047461
In the End its Morty vs Roboute that matters
They need chaos to win this to allow the big battle for Macragge
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>>55046780
thanks mate
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>>55045908
>what army do you play
HH & 40k: Death Guard
>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Mix
>do you own any forge world?
Yep!
>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
Yes
>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
Obilterators
>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
Lelith Hesperax.
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>>55045977
My DG contemptor dread is a beast and I grabbed it off of ebay for like 30 bucks. You may want to shop around on the fw stuff some more before giving up
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Alright /tg/ show me your favorite picture in your 40k reaction folder
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I don't think I'll ever buy from Forgeworld, but I got the urge to build one of these things. Even got an unused Deffkopta to cut up and use as the base for it. Anyone actually use these and have an opinion on how they are on the table?

I mean, I'll probably build it and field it even if it sucks. It's just so fucking orky!
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>>55047561
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>>55047561
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>>55045908
1. Imperial Guard, Grey Kights mostly
2. Mix I suppose
3. Not yet
4. Allow for the most part, ban a few ultra-tard powerful models
5. Purifiers. They are so damn cool, but you can't fit them into anything moderately competitive at their point cost
6. Probably a Great Unclean One tee-bee-aych famalam
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Has anyone tried the stompa? How does it do?
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>>55047444
>faeit
Thanks that's all I need to know
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>>55047561
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>>55047513
Don't forget that Exalted Champions are very good, cheep character hunters, since they reroll to wound AND to hit against characters! Give a WE EC a power fist/murder sword and only the most powerful HQs will hope surviving the charge.
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>>55045908
>army
Tyranids and Death Korps of Krieg

>style
Choppy all the way for nids, shooty with tank columns for DKK

>Forgeworld
I have a legit Commisar. Everything else is kit-bashed like my malanthrope and artillery or Chinese.

>ran a tourney
Unless the army is specifically a Forgeworld army (like renegade, elysian, Death Korps, etc.) 25% points of your list maximum.

>unit to be buffed
I would like to give my engineers their Hades Breaching Drills back. Or give Mawlocs some sort of AP. Seriously, just give them like the AP-3 3D Ones. Its talons aremore massive than a carnifex's, yet it just has the old rinky-dink AP0 talons??

>kiss
I'd kiss a thicc earth caste girl. Them hips don't lie.
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>>55047561
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>>55047561
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>>55047575
>tfw the virgin centurion face looks like a crudely drawn picture of your face.
>will never be superior chad aggressor
why even live?
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>>55047561
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>>55047561
You have made me realize that I have no 40k reaction images. Feels weird.
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AUSTIN TEXAS PEOPLE!

This Saturday the GW store on South Lamar is having a huge apocalypse size game. Someone is bringing a Mastadon. Come join us, the more the merrier.
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>>55047509
If you want a tyrant grab a SC box, those warriors are nice to have as well and the gargoyles can make alright distractions
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>>55047538
No, you fucking liar. Did you really think this was going to work after the Cult troops shitshow?
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>>55047613
>cheap
They're basically chaos lords but they cost 4 less points in exchange for losing their 4++ and their BS goes from 2+ to 3+. They're less efficant as a single model when compared to the lord, they're support characters.

And besides, the lord already has a rerollable 2+ with the murder sword and he doesn't need to reroll to wound with it.
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So much Lelith love. Hottest female in 40k
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>>55047561
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>>55047669
Dang it Bobby stop blogposting on 4chan.
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>>55047561
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>>55047561
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>>55047691
How many females are there really? At least unique ones. Like, six?
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>>55047680
No, sorry. Old wargear options for existing units are no longer legal. You can ask your oppentant to let you house rule it but you may as well be asking for him to let you use your homebrew Vect rules.
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>>55047561
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>>55047683
The lord doesn't have a reroll to wound aura and neither does he reroll ALL hits against charcters. The EC is statistically killier than ALL chaos lords, in exchange for durability.
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>>55047651
Then who is 40k Kramer?
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>>55047724
Dark eldar kabal unit models are actually, like, 50/50 males and females.
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>>55047705
Fuck you, I want to see more cool unusual models.
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>>55047724
Still hotter than your Wifu
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>>55047739
Ghazghkull.
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>>55047561
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>>55047561
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>>55047724
>Lelith
>Lady Malys
>Celestine
>Yvraine
>Jain-zar
>Shadowsun
>Greyfax
>Verydian
>The Harlequin chick, something Veilwalker
>Fulgrim

Off the top of my head.
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>>55047670
Then I'm gonna start with progenitor boxes because they are disappearing constantly, then swarm box and finally I will devastate myself with SC box
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>>55047747
She's a fucking alien anon. Of the kind that tortures children to death for fun. I'd rather chop my dick off desu.
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>>55045908
Dark Eldar, though I have small Marine and ork armies I haven't gotten to play with and I'm this close to getting a chaos one
Shooty
No forge world stuff but I wouldn't ban it, there are plenty of ways to break the game without it after all
Cutie Eldar
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>>55046969
Excellent, I've been running 10 in my 2000 point list and it's been enough usually, especially if you have a repulsor to hide them in. More is overkill but still viable
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>>55047736
He has a 2+, rerollings 1s. He rerolls ALL hits all the time regardless and because of the way modifers work you're not allowed to rerolls hits of 2 with a power fist on an EC (rerolls before modifers).

Rerolls to wound doesn't matter with the murder sword but is much better for supporting units in the fight phase while being less versitile than the lords reroll ones for everything.
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>>55047768
ferrus you fucking slut
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>>55047772
I wish you luck bug boy, remember that magnets are your friends and will save you a ton in the long run
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>>55047744
I think they're 60/40, actually. Wyches are like 4/1 female though
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>>55045908
>what army do you play
alpha legion
>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
mix but leaning towards shooty
>do you own any forge world?
nope, but i want a leviathan
>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
allow it
>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
unironically riptide, I want tau to run battle suits instead infantry blob + 2/3 of those in fucking 2k lists
>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
Celestine?
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>>55047767
So Is the inside of The Conqueror just one giant gym reeking of testosterone and daddy issues?
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Yay my printed decals are a success. Definitely recommend it over trying to freehand any symbols.
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>>55047768
Toss in Koriel Zeth (RIP sexy techpriest lady) and the Typhon chick from Forge of Mars, although I guess once Techpriests hit Magos gender is pretty academic.

It did mention that Zeth had augmented herself to accentuate her looks, though. I guess it depends on the Magos, since I know that some Imperial Liason Magi sculpt their bodies with an eye to aesthetics. The Legio Invicta Executor apparently obtained some fangirl Tech-novices, and Zagreus Kane was apparently pretty ripped before he went full mechanical monstrosity after becoming FabGen.
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>>55047777
T... tell me more
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>>55047853
Shiit, what's your process and what paper did you buy to print it?
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>>55046931
Looking at pask here. I see that you can have 2 punishers hitting on 4+, rerolling 1's from orders, but where are you getting the +1 to hit from?

Also why not just go all out S5 with 9 heavy bolters? Or why aren't you bringing triple plasma cannons to benefit from Pask's reroll orders?
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>>55047238
Why not spray can base them and leave them like that? It is easy and would at least look like something
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>>55047853
>>55047865
Yes, do tell
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>>55047789
>rerolling ones only is more versatile than rerolling all failed hits
Ok, you're just retarded. That clears it up lmao
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>>55047561
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>>55047754
GIDDY UP!
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>>55047561
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>>55047887
>Only offects to wound rolls in the FIGHT sub phase
We, errrr, have these things called guns?
They're used too sometimes?
You know?
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>>55045908
>Blood Angels
>Lots of choppy, a bit of shooty
>Got a moritat on the way to see the quality from MirandaIrene
>I'd ban forgeworld LoW's, if only because too much of the game becomes focused around them
>Death Company, right now they're just assault squads with slightly different loadouts
>Dark Eldar, who doesn't like a bit of danger
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>>55045879
In previous conversations here and elsewhere, no one's been able to determine if the fumes are harmful or not. It's probably not bad before it gets to us (it's the recasters taking the real risks) but air them out.

Resin dust is the more common danger and that's true no matter who cast it. Not a problem if you're using a knife, but sanding and sawing creates dust that you don't want in your lungs. Some people do that under running water instead of using a mask, or both.
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>>55047855
There's a little bit in Mechanicum where Kelbor Hal decides against including Kane in his plotting because (essentially) he spent too much effort on fleshy gainz rather than just making a metal face-mask and carapace. Hal was completely right there for a whole bunch of reasons, but look at it this way. Kane changed the political landscape of Mars by not skipping leg day in favour of cybernetics.
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>>55047943
That's a pretty neat interaction with Noise Marines tho. Reroll aura works on any shooting they do in the fight phase as well.
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>>55047561
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>>55047561
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>>55047669
>this Saturday

Will they have the debris from the hurricane cleaned up by then?
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Planning a melee squad of Plaguemarines for my Deathguard army. Assuming all options and costs are the same as their entry in the new CSM codex, what seems to be the best loadout for this?
Are bubotic axes worth it at 6 pts each over just dual knives for free? I'm thinking two of those flails, two of their (plague) flamers or heavy flamers (not sure the heavy variant is worth another 9 pts as they're not likely to fire them very many times per game, though they do seem quite powerful) and then the rest just having dual knives to keep them cheap. Waiting for the codex to see if the champion gets any other interesting choices, but a fist isn't too expensive.
Maybe one or two with mace+axe would be worth it? Just a bit strange that they need to take them together.

Planning on having one of those squads together with a bunch of pozwalkers and melee characters (absolutely with Typhus if he stays this cheap). If I screen them with walkers, will my opponent be able to target the marines? Not sure about the shooting rules this edition
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>>55045908
>what army do you play
Orks main. Starting marines as a side project atm.
>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Mix
>do you own any forge world?
Yes
>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
Yes
>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
Trakta Kannon. It's significantly worse than both the other mek guns, even vs. air targets.
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>>55047561
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>>55048067
The hurricane isnt going to do shit this far inland. Its going to fuck Houston up the ass and most of the smaller places near the coast are going to get smashed, but Austin is too far inland to have major weather issues. It is just going to rain a bunch, which I suppose will make I35 a killzone but its always that way anyway.
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>>55047928
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>>55047865
>>55047885

I bought my paper from http://www.micromark.com/. Normal clear inkjet decal paper. I just have a recent $80 inkjet printer, Grab the decal images from Bolter and Chainsword. They have just about everything. http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/143757-ye-olde-decal-project/.

You set the printer and printing properties to glossy paper and have the image print at actual size. Once it prints, spray the paper with a light coat of whatever acrylic clear coat you use to seal your models. GW's stuff works. Once that dries you can use the decals like any normal ones. Cut them out, dunk them and apply. They are a little thicker than commercial transfers I think so you can use some solvaset if you want it to hug detail more. http://www.micromark.com/Solvaset-Decal-Setting-Solution-2-fl-oz-bottle
Finally seal it with a spray or brush clearcoat.

The one thing to mention is that white is tricky. Since your printer cant print white you need to make sure to paint white under any white portion of the decal before you apply it. Trivial in my case for the chapter symbol. But could be tricky depending on your symbol. For this reason the borderless white fast attack symbol on the other shoulder wasn't actually printed. I'm just using the on from the normal Ultramarines transfer sheet you get in each box with my own printed squad number applied as another transfer on top.
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>>55048096
>I'm brother Shepard, and this is my favorite chapter
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>>55045908
>>what army do you play
IG/CSM

>>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Shooty IG/CSM mix

>>do you own any forge world?
IG are Elysians

>>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
Allow

>>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
Deathstrike

>>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
Uhh
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>>55045782
Incoming Imperial Primarch. Konor was set up so Chaos wins in the last three rounds...

Triggers a warp storm in the Ultramar system, and from this storm, Leman Russ shall finally emerge back into the physical realm and help Robute beat back Mortarion.
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>>55047561
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>>55048110
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>>55047754
I was going to write an episode of Seinfeld as going in 40K, but I'm shit at this.
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>>55047780
What are your other anti-armor units? I've been trying to figure out my list for a while
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>>55047867
Tank Commanders
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>>55048140
do not lewd the nid
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>>55048122
I forget exactly how bloodquest went, but I'm pretty sure he's one of the scouts who defected from his chapter to help out their exiled captain.

bloodquest is an excellent source of reaction images though
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>>55048046
Yeah but they only shoot in the fight phase when they die. Not something to look forward to.
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Anyone have any experience with Kromlech miniatures?

The sculpts look great and I was thinking of using their twin assault cannon razorback turret. Does the resin come in good shape or am I going to have to spend six weeks cleaning, filing, and filling gaps?
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>>55047867
IDK, Salamander Command Tanks? Searchlights? I remember there being a few options to give them a +1.

As a half troll reason, winning in 8e is based off of high volume of fire, not necessarily heavy hits. Maybe it's just my local meta, but more shots fired (even though you cant split fire with this build) is all around better. On infantry, it obviously rips it apart, but against LTanks (20 * 4.67 / 6 * 2 / 6 * 2 / 6 = 1.73 wounds * 2 tanks = 3.46 wounds. Pask@ 20 * 5 / 6 * 2 / 6 * 2 / 6 = 1.85 wounds, or 5.31 wounds against a tank) then if you throw a multi melta on them, even at +12", (2 * 4.67 / 6 * 4 / 6 * 6 / 6 * 3.5 = 3.63 wounds * 2 tanks = 7.26 wounds.) Here we see just the 2 base LRs deal out 10.72 wounds by themselves on T7s (most common other hard-body). You then have a HBolter on each one (except for Pask, because of that 2+)... etc, etc. This base relies on split firing, on only 3 models at ~650 points (1/3rd of a tourny list).
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>>55045908
>necrons
>mix
>yes, a canoptek tomb sentinel, the choppy one
>allow
>necron low section
>any
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>>55045908
>Necrons
>Mix, (Lychguard and Triarch Praetorians are extremely good and it is foolish to not bring at least one group of them in an army.)
>Yes, Canoptek Tomb Stalker
>Allow it
>Monolith should get Quantum Shielding.
>Eldar, least likely to be icky daemon or dirty
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What's the difference between the rhino and razorback model, besides the turrets?
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>>55045908
>what army do you play
Thousand Sons
>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Mix
>do you own any forge world?
Yes. I own the FW Lord of Change, an Osiron Contemptor Dreadnought, and a Siege Decimator Engine
>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
I'd allow it providing you brought printed copies of the unit's datasheet.
>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
Forgefiends. Cool model, terrible on the tabletop.
>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
I'd really like to meet a female Black Templar player.
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Got a squad of scouts I'm going to use for SWA and Kill Team, they all have snappy nicknames because they're aloof badass cunts, except for the one with the helmet and the boltgun, his name is Dave and he is the designated straight man. I was thinking of painting them as Crimson Fists because I think their cool, but I'm open to suggestions. Anyone got any chapters I should consider?
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>>55048315
one is meant to be fucked, and the other is meant to fuck
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>>55047347
Still completely viable but I wouldn't expect updates any time soon

Mixing primaris and normal marines (especially vehicles) is completely fine and probably optimal
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>>55048315
Other than the turrets? 10 dudes versus 6
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>>55048126
But that can't possibly be true.

Russ is such a jobber that him trying to help Roboutte Guilliman beat back Mortarion would actually help Mortarion emerge victorious.
Evidence : Russ' tactical decisions during the Horus Heresy
>Fail to bring back Magnus and his thousand nerds in cuffs so they can fix what they broke
>Instead gets most his legion, a bunch of Custodes, SoS, and some Titans killed
>Fails to convince the White Scars he is still loyal and telling the truth
>Has to get saved from the Alpha Legion Just As Planned-ing him and what remains of the Space Wolves into non-existence
>By Dark Angels that only have some contact with Caliban (aka Fallen central)
>Somehow makes it back to Terra before the White Scars
And here comes the best part
>Decides that, despite now knowing the full extend of Horus' betrayal and the number of Legions Horus recruited to his cause, the best course of action is taking the comprehensively buttfucked remains of the SW to hunt down Horus
>And rather than stay on Terra and help defend the walls, gets beaten to within an inch of his life by Horus personally only because Horus was kind enough to accept the "1v1 me bruh" rather than nuke the fuck out of Russ from his capital ship.
>Leman Russ and what little remains of the SW only get saved -again- by the Raven Guard and deus-ex-machina plot writing that makes other BL novels look good in comparison.
>Also doesn't make it back to Terra in time to at least help out in the Siege of Terra

Leman Russ everybody : the biggest jobber 40k shall ever see.
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>>55048315
The models are otherwise identical, they're both from the same mold
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>>55047881
>Why not spray can base them and leave them like that?
pretty much what i did and it wasn't easy
>can't spray at apartment
>can't spray at store
went to a parking lot in the back of some obscure plaza and did it there when no one was arround
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I don't understand how there's ltierally no death guard leaks yet.

>>55045908
>what army do you play
Death Guard
>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Plague Zombies (pox walkers I guess now) for choppy meat shield, everything else for shooty
>do you own any forge world?
No, but I'm considering getting a Leviathan
>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
There's gotta be some kind of list of OP forge world units out there, right? I'd allow forge world, but with a banlist or a custom points errata. It'd be disappointing for someone to not be allowed to use their hard work but it'd also be disappointing for someone to rock up with 1500 points of the same unit and just win
>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
Kroot. Tau auxillaries in general, honestly.
>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
typhus
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>>55048308
I've never had much luck with lychguard, they just seem to die before doing anything. Praetorians are a little better as they're fast but I've never had them have much impact.
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https://youtu.be/gyuPxJG5kFc

This video says to use Skavenblight Binge when distressing a vehicle. Is there another paint that will work for it? Would Stormvermin Fur work?
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>>55048085
Only characters get shooting protection and these guys are slow as fuck, get a rhino. I was actually thinking about weapon load outs today for them, from what I see you've got two choices

Anti elite infantry:
Plague sword on the champ, he isn't able to make the most of the fist, and a bolter. Two flails and two heavy flamers because if you're already paying so much you may as well pay that little bit extra to see the job done. Then chaff, bolters are statistically superior to double knives, you can buy one axe per bolter dude.

The other way is plasma gun, fist and blight launchers as an anti monster crew. You can take great plague cleavers and maces but they seem like a huge waste on A1 guys, but the flails again.
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>>55048191
[Yarrick's apartment, morning, Roboute and Commissar Yarrick are discussing the previous night's events]
Yarrick: "So I take the Sister back to her chapel-barracks right and she invites me in. But I've only fought in one battle with this woman, I don't know if she's asking me in to oil her bolter as she's saying or if she wants something else."
Roboute: "Was she wearing a black right pauldron or a white one?"
Yarrick: "What difference does that make?"
Roboute: "Well if sh-" [interrupted]
[Ghazghkull slides into the barracks on an out of control warbuggy]
Ghazghkull: "Oi Yarry can I'ze borrow a tank off yoo? I'ze all outz and I gotz dis Sista uv Battul comin' ova lata an' I wanna make gwak a mole."
Yarrick: "Guacamole? Isn't that racist for you to make?"
Ghazghkull: "Nah ya git it'z ta make 'er green so I'ze kan show 'er off to da boyz."
Roboute: "Wait when you saw her was she wearing a black or a white shoulderpad?"
Ghazghkull: "Wot difrunce duz dat make, ya git?"
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>>55048380
Lychguard HAVE to be fielded with Sword'n'Board unless you are doing turn-1 charge with Obyron/Deceiver.
Praetorians HAVE to be fielded Sword'n'Pistol, if for nothing else than to tarpit.
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>>55048380
My Lychguard tend to never die. Even with 5 of them, the 4+ invuln is really good. I think the only time I lost all 5 of them was in an extended battle versus Voldus, Draigo, 4 Assault Terminators, and a Dreadknight. And that only after 4 turns of combat and after killing all of the terminators, Voldus, and bringing Draigo down to 2 wounds.
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>>55048416
I'm aware, but sword and board isn't enough to save them as they usually get killed by volume of fire.
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>>55048416
Rod of Covenant is a great pick. It is an assault weapon so you can move and shoot it then charge whatever is left alive after mulching it with a bunch of AP-3 shots. Good against Aeldari melee units and MEQs in general.
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>>55048308
>Monolith should get Quantum Shielding.
kill yourself
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>>55047651
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>>55048308
That would be extreme and not fluff friendly, the monolith never had QS, it's supposed to soak up fire with its bulk, what it needs is a 2+ save like the land raider or a flat invuln
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>>55048435
You get the same amount of Ap-3 attacks with the sword as well the pistols shots.

>>55048483
Or not be way overcosted and actually function as a decent transport.
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>>55048429
T5, 2W, and 3+/4++ and you are having trouble keeping up 5 guys? Even if your opponent shoots everything at them just to kill those 5 they are happily worth the points. I hope you are putting a cryptek up their ass (literally) for the 4+ stand. If you still feel they aren't worth it, field up to 10 for an unkillable slow moving wall!

>>55048435
You can't advance and charge in the same trun. And the Sword'n'Pistol gives you a +1 attack at the same template. You aren't fielding them to shoot, they are there to charge fliers and get in your opponent's face to save a round for the silver tide to roll in.

>>55048443
How about a special QS where you roll a d3?
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>>55048429
If they had the same save as Marine shields it wouldnt be as big a deal. But they arent Marines so they cant be made too good. The trick really with them is to have other things that give them conflict in their own minds as to what needs to be shot first. Maybe I just have good luck, but I always seem to keep mine alive the entire game, losing them but bringing them back with cryptek bonus. Having a formation of 5 of them in a wedge with your Overlord behind the wedgetip and a cryptek to its right as well as a named HQ to its left of your choice, preferably Orikan or Trazyn and a phalanx of warriors or immortals behind them.

>>55048443
20 wounds isnt that spectacular. Anyone with enough heavy shooty can beat it down pretty easy in a turn or two. Quantum Shielding would solve its big problem of being a conspicuous target that people tend to want to shoot just due to its terror value.
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>>55048378
>Police roll up
>"GET THE FUCK ON THE GROUND"
>Anon starts running
>"I-I-ITS JUST ARMY MEN I SWEAR"
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>>55048501
Auto and assault cannons don't have much trouble with lychguard.
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>>55048469
somebody put mortarion's face on the bear
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>>55048501
You can move and shoot the RoC though. It is an assault weapon. And the shooting or the RoC also has the -3 whereas the particle caster doesnt have any AP. I suppose its more of just a personal preference thing.

>>55048519
I have found the inverse to be the case.
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>>55048514
Aren't spray cans illegal in the US by now, because of the explosive qualities of substances under high pressure ?
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>>55048512
>>55048501
quantum shield is an annoying ability that punishes success, the monolith isnt in that bad of a position at the moment but for necrons suffers from being one of the only valid targets for anti tank in the army meaning if you take one its going to soak all of the AT fire.
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>>55048587
No, but they're not allowed on airlines and they're generally locked behind cabinets and you have to ask an employee to grab them for you.
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>>55047575
>constantly moves even though he can shoot twice if he remain stationary

kek
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>>55048570
You get the same number of -3ap attacks with the sword with the FAQ. The pistol shot is just gravy.
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>>55048416
The Deceiver specifically cant T1 charge.
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How are you guys modelling your chad and chadlet lieutenants
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>>55048661
Literally just reusing captains
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>>55048512
I just find that they either lose in assault to things like genestealers or berserkers, or aren't fast enough to get up the board and actually achieve something. If night scythes were worth taking maybe I'd bother.
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>>55048597

Where are they locked behind cabinets? They're just sitting on the shelves here...
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>>55048658
You use it to move a night scythe, then deploy and charge from that. It's a bit of an exploit but it's not powerful enough to bother fixing.
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>>55048701
I'm in Australia and most but not all variety and hardware stores keep spraypaint locked away to stop taggers shoplifting them.
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>>55048519
Lychguard with SnB, 19+15+3=37 points per, 185 for 5.

Assault Cannon (H6, S6, AP-1, D1), 21 points
(6 * 4 / 6 * 3 / 6 * 1) 2 Wounds a turn on a 1+ platform, or 1.33 on a 3+ platform. So, you need 8 to kill the unit, on average. 21*8 = 168

Autocannon (H2, S7, AP-1, 2), 15 points
(2 * 4 / 6 * 3 / 6 * 2) 1.33 Wounds a turn on a 1+ platform, or 0.89 on a 3+ platform. So you need 12 to kill the unit, on average. 15*12 = 180

If you focus fire, I keep my important dudes alive. I technically lose 11 points on this comparison. But if you don't kill them my guys stand up on a 4+ blah blah necrons blah blah.
Didn't look into platform requirements to field these guns in the points, either. Keep that in mind.

>>55048570
RoC and the pistol have the same range. The SnP gives your dudes +1 attack, for (3) over (2). Pistol is +1 Strength and is just for laughs... and shooting into melee.

>>55048594
I don't necessarily disagree with you, and I will not field a Monolith until its worth it. But Necrons get 2 good things (QS and Tesla) where other factions get 4 or 5 decent to good things.

>>55048658
Deceiver moves it and Nemesor Zahndrekh. Obyron teleports himself and 10 Warscythe Lychguard at 6" away from Zahndrekh, or 3" away from opponents. They can charge (and do) in which Obyron and the Deceiver daisy chain in, but can't attack. T1 Charge.
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>>55048701
>>55048735
In Australia at least, it's not a legal requirement that they be kept away, but they often are since they're frequently stolen.
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>>55048701
i always wonder why people who live in the middle of nowhere ask people who live in actual places why their stuff is different

like, they think the whole world is like their little podunk. like, this dumbass has really never seen a store that has products locked behind doors before.
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>>55047440
Surely it'd be the 3.5 chaos codex war gear page?
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>>55046750
Orks are the most fun to model.
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>>55048637
But you also get AP-3 SHOOTING on top of your AP-3 melee with RoC Ending with (per 5) 5 S5 AP-3 D1 shots, then charge and attack for 10 more S5 AP-3 D1 attacks. Whereas the Particle Caster loadout would be 5 S6 ap0 d1 shots and 10 S5 AP-3 D1 shots in melee. Statistically the same amount of fire, but the AP modifier of the RoC makes it more effective just due to its powerful AP. The Pistol doesnt add any attacks for you besides the shooting in melee which still just ends up being hit or miss AP0 attacks.

>>55048687
Unless im playing on a small table, I find a turn 1 advance to a good strategic location, especially in a Relic mission gets them in close enough to do T2 charge. I obviously cant say for how dice rolls will be facing genestealers or other high attack things, but the T5 really helps. and with the formation I proposed earlier, at the very least you can fall them back out of combat and gun down whatever is in melee with them with the Warriors or Immortals right behind the command group. And on take and hold-esque missions such as Relic or any objective location mission, you can negate a lot of the Lychguards slowness by planting them near or on the objective and forcing the enemy to come to you.

>>55048789
I dont live in a place where hooting barbarians go around stealing things or trying to use stuff like that for malicious intent.
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I had a situation like this today, using the attached diagram, with black for my unit, red for his characters and blue for his HQ, his army was literally all characters and one infantry model. Going RAW, I was unable to fire at the five characters facing down my land raider due to the single infantry model nearby, regardless of whether or not it made any sense. How the fuck has this not been FAQ'd out already?
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>>55048789

lmfao sorry I don't live in such a shithole they have to put shit like a $2 can of spray paint under lock and key.

try living somewhere less poor
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>>55048859
Sorry, blue for infantry, failed to proofread, forgive me commisar.
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>>55047575
Has anyone made a "virgin loyalist astartes" and "Chad heretic astartes" yet?
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>>55048858
You, again, missed the +1 attacks with the Voidblade. Ona group of 5, you attack 15 times with them not just 10
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>>55048863
Third world country here. We don't have spray cans under lock.
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>>55048859
What Detatchment let him take 5 characters and a single infantry model?
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>>55048749
You disregard that those guns are still around after killing lychguard and you really don't need to kill lychguard in a hurry as their offense isn't anything to write home about.
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>>55048918
It was later in the game, he was playing a harlequins list, I had killed everything but his troupe masters, shadowseers and single troupe member.
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>>55045908
>what army do you play
Orks, World Eaters, Khorne Daemons
>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Take a guess
>do you own any forge world?
Yeah, I own a couple fw daemon kits
>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
Nah they've allowed it
>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
Deffkoptas, they were one of my favorite ork units in 7th and now they behave completely differently than how they did
>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
Lonely SOB
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>>55048922
I'm sorry, are you arguing that they are good at taking them down or not? Either you are shooting at them or not shooting at them. And while they are around, you can't shoot at my characters (i.e. important stuff), cus fuck my infantry.

With the 4+ stand up, Necrons win the battle of attrition. It's what they do.
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>>55048859
kill his one infantry model then, shouldn't take long

the rules are pretty explicit
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>>55048953
More that they use those guns to shoot up ghost arks and stalkers and then use them to mop up lcyhguard. I'd rather just take more immortals as I get far more killing power which is what I find lacking in necrons compared to survivability.
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>>55048886
Where on the statcard does it say that Voidblade gives +1 attack?
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Does anyone else want Crusader special characters as much as I do?

They mention most crusaders get rekt because they're just faithful humans, but if the SoB can summon a demonic saint, crusaders should be able to do some holy feats too.
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>>55047561
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>>55049000
It's in the GW FAQ.
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>>55048986
I'd have to pick my weapons I'm firing beforehand, in this case, I would be forced to fire 4 lascannons and two heavy bolters, and a random fucking clown, rather than firing at 3 diffrent targets equipped with d6 damage pistols, might not take long, but did cost the game.
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>>55048988
If you aren't going to use the guns to shoot at them, then why bring it up?

>>55049000
Have you read the errata? They give +1 attack.
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Alight /tg/ which forge world version of thenoek trukk sows eveeyone like better? The enclosed cab or halftrack? The plain trukk just looks a bit to goofy for my taste but the forgeworld version are spot on.
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>>55049006
I would like that a lot.
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>>55049016
They are shooting at lychguard, just after they've killed more important things. So lychguard basically fail at doing anything relevant.
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>>55049006
Generic saint would be sweet.
Also why the fuck do Crusaders get AoF, but not priest. Is odd
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>>55045908
>>what army do you play ?
chaos, Black Legion
>>choppy, shooty, or a mix?
Mix but mainly shooty
>>do you own any forge world?
no but i have a scratchbuilt baneblade.
>>if you ran a local tourney would you ban forge world or allow it?
allow it.
>>what one unit in the game would you like to see buffed?
nothing. wait till the codexes come out.
>>you have to kiss one member (male or female) of a xeno/imperial/chaos faction, what do you choose?
howling banshee exarch
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Who wins- b e l l b o i and BLIGHTED marine or pirouetting purest marine?

Also thoughts on the current /WIP/ dudes
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>>55045908
Deathwatch/Ordo Xenos.
Mix of both.
Yes, quite a bit.
Allow it as long as it's not like a guy showing up with one titan or something, there's far bigger problems and super heavies exist without Forge World anyway.
Khorne Berzerkers
Greyfax. Mmm.
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Why are there people who unironically called Eldar Aeldari and Tau T'au? The new names are stupid and longer. It disgusts me.
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>>55048687
I made a picture explaining what I mean.

I find this to be an incredible formation to go up against just about anything. While I prefer to do it with the warriors, if they are needed somewhere else then the Immortals make a good backline. And you can park a Ghost Ark right behind it all for the repair and extra shooty, or a Triarch Stalker for that delicious Reroll 1's to hit on whatever it shoots.

Lychguard protect characters and the warriors from dangerous things from the front, warriors/immortals thin out anything that tries to come in close, Ghost ark guns down things that try to flank, or further thin out approaching danger, and Triarch Stalker shoots first to give rerolls 1's on whatever you deem the biggest threat to the formation. Once I get another group of Lychguard I am going to run two of these formations as my mainstay army plus whatever other junk I bring, such as my lovely Praetorians or my Vehicular death machines.
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>>55049038
Sorry, thought we were talking about this in a vacuum.

If we are talking about the table, then it comes down to placement of the army, player tactics, cover, amount of cover, type of cover, counter placement, detachment abuse, army abuse, etc etc THEN it comes down to raw numbers. Then, I will retort and say that in my experience, people have to sacrifice half to 2/3rd of their entire turn to shooting and dealing with the Lychguard if I phalanx.

I currently run Praetorians in my lists due to needing more mobility, but when I ran Lychguard they were either ignored and I could do whatever I wanted with them in Malestrom (not a smart idea, since they advance every turn) or they split fire at them (again, not a smart idea due to survivability).
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>>55049071
Easier to refer to them as Aeldari when speaking of them as a species when otherwise just calling them Eldar would imply you are speaking exclusively of Craftworld Eldar.
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>>55049050
>giving grey knights force swords over halberds or falchions
>ever
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>>55047561
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>>55045879

Inhaling any particle dust is gonna increase your risk for cancer
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>>55049101
But I see people referring to solely Craftworld Eldar as Aeldari in stores and online all the fucking time.
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>>55049084
>not fielding 2 teams of 10 Tesla Immortals behind 20 warriors with your cryptek and 2 overlords in the center of the blob
Something is wrong here
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I'm making a new thread and the mods are asleep, post 40k Lewds for the OP
keep it /blueboard/
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>>55049107
>not modeling all swords and proxying for falchions cause it looks cooler
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>>55046479
You have 4 command squads but only 3 commanders (2 company, one platoon), So this list is illegal.
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>>55049116
More like snorting dust every day could give you cancer after a decade

Also use wet sanding paper or dremel under water or with a droplet.
Dust problem solve
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>>55049120
Then they are stupid. And using the term incorrectly.

>>55049123
I actually only have 5 immortals. I just dont like them when I can use the points to bring Wraiths or more warriors. I play a very Choppy Necron game.
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>>55049139
>doing that but not just giving them halberds because halberds are bar none the best look weapons
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>>55049123
Are tesla immortals really that superior to gauss?
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>>55049134
Delicious Heresy
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>>55049151
>implying halberds don't look clunky on PAGKs aside from like 2 of the poses
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>>55049157
Tesla anything is a devilishly good weapon. The opportunity for extra wound rolls is tremendously useful against hoard armies or weakbodies.
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>>55048409
Well my idea with kitting them out for pure melee rather than with bolters is that they might as well advance rather than stop and fire in the beginning of the game, and if they all make it to melee they likely won't spend much time shooting anyway. I've been thinking about rhinos, but I'm not a huge fan of them in general, though they're much more durable now than they were last time I played. I do have two of them somewhere, so might fix them up for this army. I think I prefer the idea of a large melee horde moving through the middle of the field though, one squad of marines together with a lot of poxwalkers supported by Typhus, the bell dude that improves advances, and a lord or DP for the rerolls of 1 to hit and some more melee power.
Then I'd use another detachment to support them, I'll run at least two of the drones because I'm having so much fun converting them. Maybe a bit of supporting longrange firepower if we get any good options for it in the codex, otherwise just more fast attack (judging from the recent reveal pic we might get the daemons drones in the codex too).
Not a very optimal setup against gunlines or mobile firepower like eldar, but should be able to do something against melee and mixed armies at least. Plaguemarines also still seem to be quite good at their old job of being able to absorb enemy charges, especially if kitted out with two of their heavy flamers.
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>>55049167
>implying it matters because it looks mcfucking cool
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>>55049134
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>>55045879
The problem is lots of it's done on the cheap using hazardous material. This not only varies in quality but also in toxicity. Simply put, if it's made with toxic material, you got nobody to sue and can't complain. The best you can do is give a good clean under water whilst wearing a mask. Use a mask for cleaning and stuff of the models. Forge World at least has customer support and low quality moulds usually result in you getting a free model as they send you a replacement.

It's up to you. I don't particularly like the idea of using recasters, but that's cause of past experience with non-40k tournaments and people winning with fakes and shit. Long story. Either way, just be careful.
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>>55049178
Yeah alright, ya got me there. I loooove swords, but the halberds are cooler
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>>55049201
>non-40k tournaments and people winning with fakes and shit
What exactly is wrong with that? They're a 40k model whether they were made by some British dude or some guy called like Sutong Bai.
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>>55047561
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>>55049157
What? Is this even a question?
20 shots with Overlord leadership (20 @ 9 / 6) means 30 hits at strength 5. Against Manlets, they deal 6.67 Wounds each team. 2 teams chew through dudes! S5 Ap-2 sucks at rapid fire. I'd rather get my full 20 shots 24" away, not 12. AND they can advance if they choose (+1" and keep the 6+ tesla if leadership'ed, good combo).
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>>55049134
Extra lewd because it's canon
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>>55049188
Every time I see this picture it baffles me how lazily painted the minis are
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>>55049134
Sex and the Hive City
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>>55049134
>me on the bottom right
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>>55049238
If I recall they are unfinished.
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>>55049264
>>55049264
>>55049264
Wished there was better OP available
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>>55049245
>ywn date a cute beer drinking sister of battle
Well I guess it's time to kill myself
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>>55049274
They've been unfinished for a long fucking time then, unless the person just hasn't taken any pictures of them finished
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>>55049099
I've found running more immortals is just better. More firepower earlier, more bodies for reanimate and fantastic overwatch. All lychguards have done for me is allow melee armies to assault into them to avoid overwatch and then just pile in into everything else due to the close knit formations necrons use for buffs.
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>>55046612
>Swarm box
>Start collecting
>Space Hulk board game
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>>55049289
Well at least they have base colours
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>>55048587
Lolwut? Nah, they're perfectly legal. My local Walmart has a retarded amount of them. It's like looking at a fucking rainbow on a shelf.Too bad most of them are gloss finish or textured though.
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>>55049322
Yeah, but just because they're not unpainted doesn't mean it isn't lazy. Like, if you're going to put as much effort as they have you may as well go all the way. But maybe I'm just being a snob.
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Trying to pick an army, I like Orks, but they seem sort of limiting compared to say playing a imperium army or a chaos army, it seems like you have so much more room to expand on, or am I just being a faggot about it?
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>>55047669
Lmao I have nothing but a bunch of unpainted marines. I'll see if I can make it. Good luck surviving survive the Hurricane tho.
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>>55049146
No more incorrectly than someone using Eldar to mean Craftworld Eldar.
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>>55046750
Orkz, bozz. It's a gud un.
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>>55049469

If you're interested in orks it's because you're interested in massive hordes of boyz, or boyz running around in ridiculous truks, or weird ass ork engineering greatness, or just over the top ork stuff in general

If you like all these things then I'm not sure what you think you'll be missing by going imperium or chaos
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>>55047570
I think Ima make some in the footure, but they seem to be good. Being able to deepstrike a unit of flashgitz lookz killy.
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>>55046750

If your main thing you're basing your decision on is aesthetic, that's a decision a third party can't really make for you.

I think they're all aesthetic in their own ways.
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>>55050038
Except Orks have the best aesthetic.
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>>55048379
>chaos looting ork tech.
That sick fuck.
show me more
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Hey guys I haven't played since 2012. I have been hobbying this entire time, but I haven't rolled dice in years. I play GK and nids. Should I play 8th? Or should I just keep hobbying?
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>>55050496

Rule set is the easiest to pick up so why not
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How do you put the windows on a valkyrie without mucking them up? Is plastic glue better for it?
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>>55048192
Repulsor or AC/las predator

Hellblasters eat T7 3+ alive and are respectable against T8.

you only need lascannons for reliable T8 killing and honestly you only need to cripple most tanks to make them nearly useless.
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>>55048369
When did Horus slap leman like the little hooker he is?
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>>55048587
This isn't the U.K. where it's illegal to walk down the street with a sharpened pencil.
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>>55051073

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