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EDH/Commander General /edhg/

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"Quality Discussion" Edition

Last Thread: >>54913707

RESOURCES

>Full C17 Decklists:
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/commander-2017-edition-decklists-2017-08-11

>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
http://www.mtgcommander.net

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net

>Another resource for commander discussion; they have an entire forum dedicated to discussing decks. People often make primers, which go into detail about how they built and play their deck.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity.
http://manabasecrafter.com/

>/tg/ EDH General Discord
https://discord.gg/UE9Vqzu

CARD SEARCH

>Official search site. Current for all sets.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/

>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface.
http://magiccards.info/

Thread Question:
Has your opinion drastically shifted on a card (Commander or 99)? What card and why?
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>>54920754
(repeating from last thread)
i was leaning twoards getting the BfC deck, and i think it has some artifact reanimation shenanigans so are there any reanim targets i could get to upgrade it with?
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>>54920754
I've bought this guy along with some ~20$ bombs to even out the price and slotted him in my Tasigur deck in place of a Sol Ring for a french tournament, and this guy won me many a game
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I haven't played in many years. Sold off my collection. Cashed out. Only kept pic related edh. Kinda wanna jam some games with old friends. Ant new tech?
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Your a dick OP and you know exactly why.
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No but ive cummed to Elesh Norn
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Post waifu generals.
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>thread question
At first I was very hesitant towards Gisa and Geralf for Zombies, but now it's my favorite deck.

Kind of want to replace the Wonder Twins with pic related.
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>>54920866
you sad, strange man.
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>>54920754
>Has your opinion drastically shifted on a card (Commander or 99)? What card and why?
misdirection
because its the force of will replacement I thought it would be
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>>54920884
this
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DESPITE ALL MY RAGE I AM STILL JUST A RAT IN A CAGE
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I want to try building a more thematic deck. What are people's thoughts on using Atraxa to make an infect-heavy Phyrexia deck? Does infect have any big stigma associated with it? Should I lean more towards control or aggro with it?
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Have you guys fapped furiously to Atraxay yet?
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>Thread question
Big Zurgo, I was super hyped for just smashing the shit out of people but you're kinda toast if he gets removed a few times
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>>54920754
I thought Aven Mindcensor would be an auto include in every white deck, it's not helped me once.
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>been working on a Atraxa deck on and off since December
>hasn't seen play
>might go to lgs tonight
Am I going to be bullied? It's just counter value with no walkers.
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>>54921078
>Atraxa
FUCK OFF
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>>54920869
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/avacyn-is-best-angel/
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>>54921218
Btw feedback would be nice
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>>54920869
Best generalfu
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do you build stax with mathas?
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>>54920869
I really wish the foil version wasn't so expensive.
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Anyone have any experience with God Tribal decks? It sounds like a ton of fun but it also may sound really durdely and dumb
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So I'm go to my LGS last night, pick up a couple singles, and sit down at a table and start sleeving while waiting for a game to start. This guy I've seen before who seems pretty casual starts asking around for spare BR cards, whatever he can get his hands on, to round out a Rakdos Blood Witch deck he has building. I directed him to the store owner, who gave him a bunch of Amonkhet draft chaff for free so he could play and some basics, and I told him roughly how many lands to put in. We sit down to our first game, I'm playing Karador, and like an idiot I drop a Mindslicer when there's a Waste Not on the field. Of course the Mindslicer dies, allowing the Gisa and Geralf player to get a huge board of enchantments and artifacts with all of the cards and zombies he got from Waste Not. I top-deck Bane of Progress, and then win with combat damage with it and a huge Nighthowler bestow on a flier.
For the next two games, regardless of life totals, what I was playing, what anyone else was playing, or even board-state, new guy swung at me with everything every turn. Even when I was playing draw-go Oloro and countering/removing the more serious threats of the other opponents.
I'm not even mad, I'm just confused by the dogged grudge held because I won with a 25/25 and a 14/14 two games ago with a different deck.
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>>54921414
You and me both mate, gonna have to get one at some point if I want to be really fancy.
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>>54921218
Avacyn is a dumb, ugly choker-wearing instagram-posting Melanie-Martinez-listening diaper-wearing daddy issues tumblrgoth ddlg whore
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>>54921078
I think as long you make that clear to the playgroup people won't think of you as much as a threat. That being said, I personally target anyone with 4 color generals because it generally indicates good stuff.dec unless it's an explicit wacky theme like atraxa Hydra tribal
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>>54921218
>go to shadows prerelease
>get archangel avacyn promo
>sell it for 100 release weekend
felt fucking great. it also did amazing work. avacyn+devils playground were amazing together. naya at prerelease just blew everyone out of the water, which is not what i was expecting.
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>>54921434
He's probably just a bad player but could be a weirdo grudge holder instead.
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>>54921434
Play with him again next week and report back if behavior continues. Could be fun to Fuck with him if he's a spaz. Maybe build something to directly prison whatever he's doing? Nevermore his commander or some shit
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>>54921312
>Best generalfu
doenstevenhavescales/10
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>>54921434

>>54921542
He's probably just a new player who hasn't quite learned how determining threat works. You should try to play more politics, say stuff along the lines of " are you sure you want to swing at me, player X just got out a massive value engine out and will likely lock up the field"
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>>54921575
Is he even any good
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>>54921575
Numot is a boy
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>>54921602
>he
are you implying im a gay?
not great but all the cards in this cycle make for pretty decent good stuff generals
only thing you need is to have a few cards like swifties to protect them in the event you end up casting them
>>54921611
WRONG
look at that necklace only women wear necklaces
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>>54921602
He's reliable WUR goodstuff. Threaten people's powerful lands while hopefully not putting too much of a target on yourself through land destruction.
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>>54921414
I bet she shaves her pussy to resemble the orzhov symbol!
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>>54921630
But..
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>>54921414
>>54921437
Post yfw the next trip to Ravnica they do Masterpiece Series: Guild Legends, including Masterpiece Teysa.
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>>54921705
Please stop lewding best girl.
It's obvious she very clean shaven
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>>54921741
Featuring Orzhov symbol landing strip
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>>54920883
put scarab god in the deck, wonder twins are better in the command zone.
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>>54921710
shiiiiet
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Any tips for building a Jhoira Combo/Aggro deck?
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>>54921939
Big ass eldrazi
Shit that removes time counters

Thats literally it
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So, I was thinking of building Mardu stax a while back, and made a list too. But now I really want the vampire precon. My autism prevents me from having two decks of the same color, so I should find a way to make vampires more control oriented. Maybe with Mathas

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/no-favorites-everyone-dies/

>>54920869
I'm kind of a dick
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Can i please have some feedback on this list?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/taigams-taigam-no-taiga/

Everyone builds Taigam with infinite turns, i tried spicing it up a bit by avoiding infinites and putting some token tech in, can it work?
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>>54921986
>not wombat tribal
Severely disappointed by that revelation, anon.
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>>54922008
That's not a wombat you ignorant swine
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>>54922029
Stop badgering people
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Whats a good spellslinger commander /edhg/?
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>>54922057
>>54921986
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>>54921986
Never knew I wanted a Capybara until now.
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>>54922057
What colors?
Izzet has Mizeks, who makes your instant/sorceries cheaper

Gruul has Wort, who lets you copy spells

Azorious now has Taigam, who also copies spells

Grixis has Kess now, who lets you flashback a spell each turn. Or several other nice commanders
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>>54922132
Was looking for something grixis or dimir, Kess looks good, thank ya
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>>54921741
Post yfw Return to Dominaria Masterpiece Series is Timefuckery: Every "extra turn" card ever printed.
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>>54921589
>politics, say stuff along the lines of " are you sure you want to swing at me, player X just got out a massive value engine out and will likely lock up the field"

That's super faggy, anon.
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>>54922163
They said they will stop with Mastershits starting with Ixalan
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>>54921312
>Used to own a Saffi
>Lost it somewhere
>8 bucks now
Lame. I just realized I had a bunch of core parts to start building her deck.
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>>54922220
>tfw no masterpiece of teferi's piss break
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I want to build her for lifegain and spending life to cause damage. So far some things I have are
Hatred
Unspeakable Symbol
Fire Covenant
Phyrexian Processor
Minion of the Wastes
Plague of Vermin

as well as general lifegain. What else would be useful?
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>>54922220
Not unless we go back in Tiiiime!
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>>54922142
No problem dude. Jeleva or some of the partner commanders with Vial Smasher might also be a good idea for grixis
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>>54922236
Debt to the deathless is a pretty funny card for tables of 3-4 people. Also it has one of the most metal arts I've seen on the recent sets
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>>54922220
>off by 2
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>>54922236
where is Licia from? Ravnica? Theros?
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>>54922236
necropotence
greed
ad nauseam

checking who got >>54922222
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>>54922220
no they said they would include them less in future sets. meaning they still exist but will be placed slowly here and there in some sets
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>>54921452
At least she isn't Braids, Cabal whore.

Avacyn is pure and amazing and flawless and you are just jealous that your cardfu isn't as pure and perfect. Avacyns is the pinnacle of all angels and all commander waifus.

A true miracle of the universe. Compared to her your waifu is nothing but dust and filth
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>>54922220
No, they said they're going to stop doing them every block, but they'll do them when they feel they're appropriate. Amonkhet's Invocations were far too loose compared to the Expeditions and Inventions, so they're wary of doing them again without a strong theme.

Ravnica has enough Legendary creatures that they could easily do a series of entirely Legendary creatures, which is simple and evocative.
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>>54922290
Some people thought a roman plane, but actually Ravnica could make sense if she was formerly part of the Boros Legion, explaining the roman themes.
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>>54922236
Dega Shrine (Mogis, Keldon Twilight and Spiteful Visions are all good cards to include for easy triggering)
Firemane Avenger
Obzedat
Lone Rider is a poor man's Serra's Ascendant but does fine in a pinch
Searing Medatation if you think you'll have the mana for it
Some other things I'm too tired to think about right now
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>>54922301
>Braids, Cabal whore.
fuck off shes pure
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>>54922301
>Braids, Cabal Whore
Even the Patriarch knows not to stick his dick in THOSE levels of crazy.
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>>54922356
You know, the man who fucked Phage
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>>54922236
martyr of sands. thank me later.
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>>54922364
Anon, everyone has to follow some standards and principles.
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>>54922266
It is so gun to resolve. The life swing on it is fucking ridiculous. My main problem is I always try to wait for lethal on at least one opponent with it. I have died waiting for that extra 2 mana to make some die. You have to be ready to be archenemy when it resolves. Still nothing better than leaving everyone else in single digits while you shot up by 30 to 60 life.
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>>54922364
>Not wanting someone known as The Untouchable to yourself
Are you even a man?

>>54922370
>2 mana: reveal a few cards in your hand, gain about 9 life
Would rather run Feudkiller's Verdict, at least that probably leaves something on the field
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>>54922438
Untouchable does not mean "never touched", it means "don't touch if you value you genitals"
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>>54922236
Alright I've been taking your suggestions and it seems to look good so far. Now what I'd like more of are ways that I can spend life as a resource to deal damage, whether by a single card or combo.
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>>54922356
But who could resist this smile
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>>54922457
no it just means she has no clit you dumb idiot
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>>54922226
Modern speculators made her spike hard when Renegade Rallier was printed from what I can tell.
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>>54922438
>would rather feudkiller's verdict than martyr of sands
the serve different functions. martyr is means you can play a turn 4 licia, and can greatly reduce her cost once the commander tax comes in. feudkillers already costs 6, and will only reduce the cost 10, leaving you with a mana cost reduction of 4 mana. it's not the same, man. trust me. build soul sisters with licia and see how well martyr of sands does.
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I've got some interesting things going, but I also need general lifegain in mardu. What would you recommend (aside from lifelink)? Repeatable effects like Nyx-fleece ram would be more useful, plus cards that interact with lifegain like Sunbond.
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>>54922572
Gross. Fuck those people.

I guess I can start building Alesha instead then. She lends herself nicely to the same combo.
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>>54922660
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>>54922316
>Roman plane
>my loins are girded, there is no eay they could fuck this up
>no man sex
>no vomitorium land card
>wizards announces strong female characters and the slaves are all white
I couldn't even
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Azusa almost doubled in price in the last few months. How come? It was floating around 20 for so long but now it's 40ish
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>>54922677
How the fuck isn't this banned?
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>>54922692
GW Company in modern
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>>54922707
MODERN!!!!!
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>>54922694
6 mana enchantment, 3 of which are a single color, in a format of 50 1-2 cmc enchantment/artifact removal format
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>>54922694
also who cares about life totals
fully half of my edh decks win through combo rather than damage
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>>54922648
>turn 4
Only if you played her on turn 3 and have at least 2 white cards in hand, otherwise you'd also need mana rocks.
Drawing her later than that is also really fucky, unless you're holding onto some white boardwipes then chances are even her mana reduction might not be so great.
Incremental lifegain is janky, straight lifegain is subpar.
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>>54922660
>PAPER
>8.00
for what purpose?
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>>54922694
>I have a gojillion life!
>Infinite mana BSZ
>21 commander damage
>Infinite mana Exsanginate
>Lab Man
Really makes you Ponder
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Ajani Goldmane is so good in Uncle Karl.
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>>54922694
Because you'll just get combo'd to death, slapped with a hasted blightsteel, commander damage'd, hit with a token army for a billion, hit with a X spell and so on and so forth, having a lot of life means jackshit if you're not using it as a resource.
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>>54922517
If there's one thing she really needs, it's haste.
Exava and Sootstoke Kindler are great non-enchanment ways of doing it.
Looking for other ways too, debating Olivia's Bloodsworn.
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Nephilim retrain when?

Their artwork designs were so fucking sweet.
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>>54923043
if they do will they be legends? because one one hand that would be fucking dumb if they all of a sudden became legends when they werent before but then again they did always say they should have been
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>>54923059
Considering they were unique creatures in-universe as well and should have been legendaries to begin with, as there only exists one of each.
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>>54923043
Their art design is actually massively problematic for the design team. Not only do they not have any relation to each other, their art has no relation to their abilities, with the possible exception of Dune-Brood. It's important for people to be able to glance at a card and instantly get a sense of it, even vaguely, but you can't do that with the Nephilim, and that's a problem.
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>>54923108
So no more praetors either then?
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>>54921431
I run one, though it turns out half the Amonkhet Gods aren't worth using so I ended up swapping them for Enchantment-Based Creatures. Generally if you make it past Turn 6 you're good to go; you can get your Devotion stable and keep churning out Gods.

You'll be tempted to run Child of Alara for the kaboom, but it's a trap. You blow up your own supports that give you Devotion that way, and slow yourself down just as much. I run Horde because he comes out, swings for a bunch, and can still block, /and/ doesn't draw removal like a magnet.
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>>54923108
There have been plenty of things that don't look anything like what their ability does, including a lot of the Eldrazi usually just having their abilities work as recognizable things because "it's an Eldrazi".

Making them oddball legendaries and as abstract and weird as they have been could easily make them recognizable enough, especially since a new release of them would entail giving them new artwork of their original designs and reworked abilities, like they did with the Eldrazi titans.
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Do you think WOTC would be stupid enough to print a card which modifies the amount of commander damage you can take?
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>>54921431
The new red enchantment from the C17 Wizards deck that destroys a creature you control, then lets you sift through your deck until you find another of its type is really sweet with them, as that destruction effect isn't obligatory to trigger the fetch effect.
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>>54923175
absolutely
also
emblem removal when?
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>>54923138
Except the Praetors resemble each other. They share a similarity that allows you to see one and say "That's a Praetor." Even if they didn't, what I was saying wasn't that there would be no more Nephilim, but rather, no cycle of Nephilim with the bizarre art design of the originals.
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>>54923175
>do you think WOTC would be stupid enough
Yes.
>lets print a cycle of cards that don't need to be casted. What's the worst that can happen?
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>>54923175
They already have.
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>>54923223
oh
lol
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>>54923206
Only one or maybe two are even good.
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>>54922290
>>54922316
Her blurb on the mothership makes me think Kephalai.
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Please unban this Sheldon
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>>54923435
No.
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>>54923451
Yes, I own several
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>Terminate gets new art
>not cauldron dance
>not phantom nishoba
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>>54923473
>banned in every format it can be banned
>own several
What drives men to such madness?
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>>54923435
>hey guys i know how to fix necropotence
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>>54923498
Terminate's new art is from Modern Masters. Not C17.
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>>54923108
>art design
You mean, the actual card design, right? This is the reason they never got back to Nephilims. Because they are a nightmare to make sure that it does resemble all 4 of the colors, but not the 5th one.
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>>54923544
Yeah, me too dawg.
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FREE ME
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>>54923498
Cauldron Dance already had good art. Nishoba would've been nice, though. But you know who should have had good art? Ramos. That half-assed CGI abomination is a disgrace.
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>>54923631
No.
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>>54923631
Do you own several?
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Unban pic and leovold. Force format to start playing lightning bolt. Make edh much healthier and happier
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>>54923746
yeah but you wouldn't be the guy running lightning bolt, right? you'd be the guy running the must-answer threat
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>>54923766
Obviously. Red is for mouth breathers
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>half the ban list could come off and do nothing like protean hulk
>committee refuses for no real reason
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>>54923631
I own several binders filled with nothing but the cheery elf dude, unban him already.
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>>54923746
>Lightning Bolt, by itself, is an answer to a commander

How about you choke on a Misty Rainforest?
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>>54923746
Ban mana-positive rocks, unban everything else not on the Vintage B&R list. Put the onus on stores/playgroups to figure out what they want.
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Please unban this, I own several.
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>>54923804
Then I'll play the superior Black and put -1/-1s on all of your shit.
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>>54923746
I'm already running Bolt in everything I can so that wouldn't change much.
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>>54923909
Or the ultimate, colorless...
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>>54923631
>float it
>quicken a wrath
:^)
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Anyone have any experience with MTGO? How is it??
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>>54920754
>Has your opinion drastically shifted on a card (Commander or 99)? What card and why?

Stony Silence.

When I started plying control and realized how much ass it stomps in the right deck.
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>>54923746
No thanks. I am glad prophet is still banned. My friends Riku ETB deck was unbearable due to prophet.

Can only burn so many threats before you are exhausted via their constant untapping.
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>>54923819
Man, I bought him and Primeval titan the week before they were banned. Then traded Primeval Titan the week before Summer Bloom became a deck.
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>>54924247
A dumpster fire adapted from an email client from the 1990s run by Adolf Hitler's economics advisor and inhabited by a population of filthy netdeckers, 40 year old babies, and general scum.
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I fucking love when I find dumb cards I never even thought about.
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>>54923746
>leovold
naw cunt
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>>54920902
sounds like your opinion stayed the same desu
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>>54921865
But now I'm considering building one of the new Wizards, no clue which one though.
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What's the best Sultai commander to Ramp the hardest with/for?
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>>54924372
How many Mirror Gallerys did you stock up on, senpai.
I want to know if I should sell now.
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>>54924475
shiiiiet
*not the FoW replacement I thought it would be
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I want to make a mercenary/bounty hunter themed deck with this guy, which kills creatures and collects the rewards.

Unfortunately though, I think Mathas only works in a pillow fort.
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>new notification on my phone
>Youtube:Tolarian Community College My past with depression
>lol what an idiot
why doesnt this guy just stop being a faggot?
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>>54924537
Because it makes him a lot of money.
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>>54920754
>Has your opinion drastically shifted on a card (Commander or 99)? What card and why?
ya, the commander is a liability 99% of the time. i make most of my decks with the partner commanders or just 5 color commanders now just to avoid the "oh he is playing THAT commander, lets kill him guys" and win mostly through combo
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____________________________Atraxa_____________________________
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>>54924394
So 6/10?
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>>54924537
Some of his videos are pretty eh, his reviews are helpful tho.
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>>54924627
Low 7s, it's not Cockatrice.
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>>54924661
>whatwereyouexpectingasshole.gif
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>>54924537
why the fuck does every youtube channel inevitably become a vlog? like i give a fuck if you were depressed and jerking off to mtg cheesecake
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>>54924678
At least Cock is free.
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>>54924704
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>>54924704
That explains why you have so much experience.
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>>54924735
This has been one of the best exchanges I've ever had on 4chan.
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>>54924744
With MTGO?
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asking in the new thread, cards that are printed only in commander decks, are they legal in any other format? the new commanders for example
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>>54924833
Legacy and vintage.
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Threadly reminder that grixis storm is thicc
T H I C C
H
I
C
C
Grab your waifu before she atraxa's and costs more than a modern staple
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>>54924860
>being into literal grannies
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>>54920754
Guys, help me build a Kess deck.
I have a feeling it's gunna be op as shit.
>snapcaster.edh
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>>54924329
This. I played Prophet a ton while she was legal and the card is ridiculous. She deserves the ban.
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>>54925027

If you need to ask she isnt for you
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>>54925027
Take a Jeleva Storm list and then swap Kess for Jeleva. They're pretty much interchangeable. The only difference is that Jeleva is kind of nice for Stax heavy metas because she helps you cast shit for free.
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>>54925129
no u
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>>54925027
Either build stormshit or spellslinger goodstuff because that's all he lends herself to.
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>>54925287
>he
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>>54924502
I was going to build Marchesa as an enchantment based pillowfort deck but now I'm going to switch to Mathas. I think a "bounty hunter" tribal deck is a great idea and you're in the colors to really use their abilities. Many of the cards that kill creatures target tapped ones and you could use white cards that tap creatures along with red cards that force combat to easily destroy some tapped creatures.
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>>54924687
I wonder if the video creators aren't so different from the audiences. The audience has a virtual friend through the video maker/streamer but the maker/streamer ends up doing the same thing and his audience becomes his friends and social circle.
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>>54925440
Pretty sure most content creators just care about that sweet patreon/twitch-subscription/whatever-money.
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I can't make up my mind, fa/tg/uys, what Commander 2017 deck should I buy? I'm equally stoked about each of them and I have the capability to upgrade all of them, but I have a limited amount of money and can only buy one.
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>>54924860
>effectively a 5-mana creature
I hope Modern isn't that pitiful. Snapcaster is better.
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>>54925492

This is the commander thread, she's not modern legal
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>>54925488
Cats is autistic and will make you look like someone who services gloryholes at the local dennys
Wizards is ok, kinda boring, but Inalla seems fun
Vampires has no good Commander but a lot of good cards
Dragons is solid it just needs good lands and a few classic dragons, also dont use O-Kagachi
Overall Dragons are the best probably
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>>54925607
>vampires has no good commanders

Don't underrestimate granddaddy markov.
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>>54925492
>I hope Modern isn't that pitiful.

People are testing her fat ass in Legacy. It's a potent effect.
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>>54923746
no, did you even play with either of these cards?
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>>54921218
Need more ramp nog
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>>54921078
You deserve it you normie fuck
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>>54924578
Fuck you
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I was really hopeful that Derevi's effect was weak enough that I could safely run it as Bird Tribal or "On Combat Hit".dec.

Was wrong. I just run Jenara for more or less the same reason I ran Derevi (chump blocking fliers and sometimes killing peeps with commander damage).
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>>54925607
Don't you need some extreme bank to upgrade the lands for all colors and some of those upgrades dragons. I'm not putting it down, but it seems costly.
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>>54925640

Legacy is more conducive to slow cards than modern
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>>54925918
With Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse, a few Checks and Battles, you'll have run maybe $30, and you'll find your mana base to be faster and more consistent than what Wizards put out.
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What are some essential CMC1 cards for 5C decks?
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>>54926017
I just do Path and Swords, to be honest.
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>>54926086
>>54926017
Would also run Bolt for good measure.
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>>54926017
Search for Tomorrow is technically CMC 3, but you can suspend it for 1, and it searches out whatever basic land you need.
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>>54926017
Sensei's Divining Top
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What's the BEST mono white commander?

Who is the most FUN mono white commander?

Gimmie your opinion
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>>54924891
Eighthoursinmspaint.jpg
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>>54926017
Vamp tutor.
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>>54926217
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>>54926217
Sram

Sram
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>>54926217
Sram. Balan.
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>>54926217
For best I'd say probably Hokori, Eight 1/2 Tails, Mangara, Linvala, maybe?

Most fun is probably Sram or Darian even if they are one note.

I like the idea of using new Bruna or Sensei Golden Tail, but those are probably more fun to build than play.
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>>54926237
Made me laugh
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>>54926237
>Loss has no meaning here. You cannot take from those who have nothing.
Still makes sense. Kess robs fellow nursing home residents confirmed.
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>>54926217
> Best
Sram

> Fun
Isamaru
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>>54920754
I used to think this was a boring do nothing 6 drop enchantment but after playing with it I found its fun as fuck.

still kinda shitty and slow, but fun as fuck, would rec for a casual dragon/high power creature deck.
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>>54926734
Oh neat, another card for my "Go fuck yourself." Wanderer Chaos.
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Mycosynth Lattice worth trying to grab? Seems to be going up in price.
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I'm buying the dragon precon and there's nothing you can do to stop me
Timmy and proud
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>>54920754
Suture priest is fun, especially when one of your opponents plays the locust God.
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>>54926880
I'm buying all of them.

I just like owning cards.
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>>54926880

You're not a true Timmy unless you roll with the ur dragon
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>>54925624
>>54925607
Yeah after looking at the two deck lists I'm going to go with Vampires. If I had more money I would definitely pick up the dragon deck as well, but then again if I had more money I would just buy all of them so what can I do
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>>54926217
Best: Sram
Most Fun: 8.5 Tails (also second best)
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>>54926313
>love 8.5 tails
>have since Kamigawa
>discover EDH
>everyone builds him as a bland equipment voltron
Feels bad man.
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>>54926217
OG Avacyn boardwipe tribal. :^)
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>>54926957
Too mainstream, gotta run with Ramos
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>>54927208
The thing is that while Equip Voltron is his best wincon, he has a LOT of tech.
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Now that I think about it what are some good, cheap upgrades I can make to the dragon deck? I've got fetches and duals I'm going to throw in, what else should I add? I was thinking Hour of Promise for ramp and fixing.
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>>54927292
>not using the ur dragon as your commander
>not sleeving the deck with ultra pro® ur dragon sleeves, using a ultra pro® ur dragon playmat and storing it in the ultra pro® ur dragon deck box

Why?
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>>54926880
>not buying all the precons every year anyway
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I need your help /edhg/.
Do I keep Mathas as the Commander or do I put him in the 99 in favor of Our Gracious Queen ( Long May She Live)?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/17-08-17-lYm-mathas-fiend-seeker/
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Can someone explain this Atraxa meme to me?
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>>54927401
boi she thicc
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>>54927401
More like DatAsstraxa boi, amirite
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>>54927401
She's basically Elesh Norn's slutty cousin
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>>54926217
Sram

Darien
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>>54927292

Ramos is obviously the most popular one though
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>>54927190
Haha I'm exactly in your situation, dragons are Godamn expensive if you really want to upgrade
>>54926003
>>54925607
>>54925413
Is bontu's monument a good idea for the vampires. It seems cheap in mana and price plus reduces all black costing stuff. I'm actually finding it difficult to get the stuff I need (most is sold out) Ie. Urzas incubator and dark something
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https://twitter.com/EliShffrn/status/897894399329222656

How the fuck can this possibly be right? Can someone with more Comp Rules knowledge than me point out what causes Quicksilver Elemental to copy the once per turn rider on Mairsil's abilities?
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>>54926880
I buy them all every year, and I can tell you that's the last one I'm buying. I buy entirely based on which ones will go fastest, and I'm snagging wizards as soon as I can.
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>>54927627
Mairsil's abilities would be tied with the "can only be used once per turn" clause. Quicksilver gains the clause because it's copying mairsil's abilities, not the original creature's
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>>54927505
And I hope there are more cousins to come. Phyrexia again when? I want us to go back to a Phyrexia where Elesh whipped out everyone and turned that mess into a phyrexian civilization.
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>people actually think rotting bloody flesh encased in porcelain is attractive
Seek help, quickly
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>>54927505
Elesh is the kawaii cousin
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>>54927721
They are never returning to Nu Phyrexia, Hasbro found that younger audiences dont like scary things like that
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>>54927713
I get the logic, I'm just not seeing any support for it in the actual rules. I don't think there's precedent for gained abilities having riders such as this.
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>>54927748
Its true
>mashup hammer horror with cthulhu for innistrad 2
>spoopy skeletons going on
>rawr its me emma cool
>jacetice league says "plz go"
>k den, ill live on the moon
>hugs and icecream all round, lets goto india and do some podracing
>Chandra says :3
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>>54927729
Make me.
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>>54927813
Was meant for
>>54927744
Hurr durr
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>>54927813
Think you got the wrong guy, bud. But it's true, if the target audience didn't like body horror, we wouldn't have had SOI.
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>>54927729
t- some normie who doesnt keep canoptic jars of his victims body parts in the basement so he can fuck them
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>>54927729
Elesh is gorgeous. Best Praetor.
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>>54927494
thisbis the most shameful thing I've done all week
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>>54927734
obligatory

executing warmrainofgrease.exe
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http://tappedout.net/mtg-deckpaste/edgar-markov-vampire-edh-1/

Anyone wanna try to help me cut this down?
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>>54924679
>Clearlydoesn'tknowcontext.post
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>>54928066
Relax anon still plenty of time to top that before the week ends
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>>54928126
>weatherlight was a mistake

hearty chuckles, saved
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>>54928126
Was the Weatherlight Saga not liked at the time? I wasn't playing then
>>
How do y'all justify spending $200 on cards?
I want to buy something but I can't bring myself to it
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>>54927627
That's wrong though, from what I gather the caged Quicksilver copies activated abilities and the OPT restriction is static. Also Mairsil has the OPT for caged abilities and Quicksilver copies are not from a caged source they're a different copy.
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>>54925488
Which decks do you already play?

The precons are each pretty different strategies so you could either stick with what you like or try to diversify. Obviously each can lead a tribal deck,

Cats: equipment, voltron, combat goodstuff

Vampires: tokens, Skullclamp, life gain

Wizards: etb combo, generic blue goodstuff, storm with Kess

Dragons: Timmy, timmy, Jund goodstuff
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>>54928341
I have disposable income, if I want something I buy it, not hard
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>>54928341
im not poor
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>>54927292
>Ur Dragon is too mainstream. I know I'll run X color goodstuff the general instead.
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>Disney could possibly buy Hasbro one day to get even more of the cut on Star Wars and Marvel toys the same way Marvel bought Toybiz back in the day
>This means Disney would own WotC

How fucked would we be?
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>>54928066
Welcome to the club
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>>54928403
That would make Lucrezia a Disney Princess
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>>54928403
>big dumb cashgrab MTG movie

My god imagine the casuals.
>>
>>54928346
Also why not just play the quicksilver elemental? Can't it just copy all of Mairsil's activated abilities anyway?
>>
>>54928420
s...sauce...
>>
>>54928446
Kamigawa on Ice
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>>54928467
Paheal rule 34
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>>54928464
You'd think so, but this tweet implies it would still copy the restriction.
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>>54928346
>>54928464
>>54928514
Also, more from him. He "asked around," still doesn't give a source.
>>
"DUDE WHY ARE YOU ATTACKING ME IM JUST RAMPING!!!!! REEEE"
Next turn drops Avenger turn after that Craterhoofs
Mono G players are the worst
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>>54928546
Forgot link like a dumbass. https://twitter.com/EliShffrn/status/897894655773130752
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>>54928550
I'll admit I have extremely limited experience with the format, but I don't understand how anyone would ever feel entitled to not be opposed in a competitive card game. (Competitive as in not cooperative, not as in not casual.) Why does this happen with EDH?
>>
Where can I go to see some Kess decks? Tappedout doesn't have her added yet.
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>>54928616
Its a 2 hour circle jerk unless someone is allowed to combo off turn 6
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>>54928632
Give it time, people are still brewing.
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>>54928616
Basically there are some people who play EDH that like to never be disrupted or targeted, they sit back behind pillowfort enchantments and ramp till they begin ending the game. Even a semblance of disruption or aggression against them causes them to start bitching, the worst is when they bitch so much that someone aggros on you cause "You made them upset dude" its like bitch they always upset.
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>>54928632
Tappedout does have her. If she's not showing up on searches, try edhrec.
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>attack or remove someones permanents
>"I DONT KNOW WHY IM BEING AGGRO'D ON SO HARD (Its not like im set up to win soon)!"
>white knight at the table takes up their cause, "Im doing this because you upset them"
>they go on to win the game
Nice politics dumbass. I wonder if i specifically gimp myself because I never bitch about being targetted unless its MLD or something extremely backbreaking or spiteful
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>>54928616
It's because they think that they are not the biggest threat on the table because they have no board presence. But a couple lands are much more threatening than a some random tokens or a walker that will only ult in 5 turns.
>>
What the fuck was up with the professor's last video
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>>54928852
It was IneedPatreon$.vid
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>>54928870
If he really wanted to make beta bux he would get the chandra/lilli and nissa cosplayers that he colabs with to send nudes
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>>54928782
One guy in my group has admitted to me that when he doesn't know who to attack, he goes for me every time because I'm the most likely to pull a win out of my ass

This while people are building MASSIVE boardstates and I have one of the 5 nontoken creatures that are in the 99
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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/surrak-rug-goodstuff/

Sugestions on how to improve or spicy tech that could be fun? It used to be an Intet deck that tried to cheat big creatures and spells into play, but I could almost never make good use of Intet's ability, so I changed it into something more direct and consistent
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>>54926217
I fucking love playing Darien. "Go ahead and hurt me, friendo."
>>
Does anybody outside of Vancouver/Victoria actually play Canadian Highlander? I just read Marshall Sutcliffe's article about it, and it seems pretty decent. (http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/ways-play/introduction-canadian-highlander-2016-05-17)
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If you could use any non-legendary creature as your commander who would it be?
>>
Talk me out of building Edric, /tg/.
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>>54929120
Play ooze man instead
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>>54929136
BUG isn't much better. Really, I just want a creature-based deck that just turns shit sideways and makes people's life totals go down in combat. Basic shit, really
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>>54929120
Unless you just really love flyingmen.dec, Tymna+Thrasios is better in every way.
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>>54928852
needs money from (((patreon)))
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>>54929155
I was referring to Kraj
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>>54929165
I like the idea of it. Like I said, I have no deck that simply turns (lots of) creatures sideways for a win
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>>54929246
Well, then he's your man. However, I'd recommend at least considering Tymna+Thrasios/Kondo hatebears. It lets you play more proactively, rather than relying on counterspells alone to protect yourself. Plus, Tymna+Kondo turn all your dudes into flying Ophidians.
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>that niche card you run in your other deck is now being played against you
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>>54929346
>>54929165
To be fair the decks are different. Tymna + Thrasios is just a generic deck, it's not really built around Tymna even though she can be built that way. It just feels like you might as well as play Tymna + thrasios whenever you would play fewer colors at that point if you have that mindset.
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>>54929346
>>54929420
Oh, but anyway, if you do want that kind of deck, pretty sure Edric is still better even with fewer colors. Edric's draw is just on a totally different level than Tymna's, and scales much more powerfully when built around. Tymna + Kondo is fine but I think if you want the "draw cards by swinging with dudes" thing Edric is the one.
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Finally finished the deck. Its bad but it does have some small amount of power.
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>>54929477
One benefit is every single person has had to read the card and I havent been aggro'd on at all in 4 games.
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>>54929477
Got a list? I assume it's still the steal+sac plan.
>>54929440
Sure, Edric's draw is insane. The appeal of Blind Lady and Dead Stepdad is beating down with proactive hatebears rather than french vanilla weenies. It's not necessarily better, only different.
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>>54929417
That feeling is surprisingly bad. They always make it work better than you too.
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>>54929477
i have a celestial kirin deck that is fun but very mediocre.

i'm not sure which is worse honestly. it would be nice if skyfire kirin hit everything like celestial.
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>>54929346
Ooh Kondo looks fun. Dunno who I'd want to pair him with, but Tymna looks nice
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>>54929635
White at least has spirits to play, man. That guy's a madman.
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>>54929571
Pretty steal sac is the only thing you can actually do with it. Even if you use another card to give it haste (lol wtf wizards) youd probably want to sac it anyway. The real trick has gotta be what fucking spirits and shit do you use, how the fuck do you even. Thsts what I wanna see.
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>>54929477
>Doesn't give the stolen creature haste or even untap it

T-thanks Kamigawa.
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>>54929719
>>54929719
>>54929719
>>54929719
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>>54929611
The true feeling of being cucked.
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>>54929704
Oh my god, it doesn't even untap. Holy shit.
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>>54929115
arcbound crusher is my duder
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>>54927309
Aside from cheeky shit with circle/rune of protection: white, what does he have?
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>>54922236
Beacon of immortality and tainted remedy to just kill a player.
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