Warhammer 40k General /40kg/

Maybe this is as good a place to ask as any, we will see. (pls no bully)
I have not played 40k since 3rd edition and I am looking to get back into it as we have a store locally now and people are playing. I am looking for an army that is small on models but high in points to start out with so I can get it built and painted quickly. Any suggestions

>>54909272
Deathwatch, Grey Knights, Knight Titans, Imperial Guard Armored Company, Big Tyranids

>>54909272
Harlequins, Custodes, Grey Knights, and deathwatch are pretty much inherently low model count elite armies but you can do the same with almost any factions just by picking all expensive units

>>54909302
>>54909310
Thanks lads.
Oh shit is armored company still a thing? Like the chapter approved list?

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>>54909199
>an OOP product is still being advertised on its marketing app
One of the few problems with Freeblade

>>54909272
Deathwatch can easily get around 1500+pts with 2-3 of their SC! boxes plus some vehicles. Primaris army is also small in models and you wont need more than 1 or 2 Repressors and GK is also a small army that has like 20 models at 2000pts.

You could do a monster mash kind of list and just do Demon Princes out the ass or Carnifexes plus support.

>>54909272
>small on models but high in points
A lot of armies can do this, like almost all. As for painted quickly, Necrons. The army for the doesn't care painter

>>54909336
It official now. Tank Commanders and Pask in a russ are HQ choices, and theres a basically all heavy support force org, so you can go nuts

>>54909350
I have done Necrons before and I don't think I could live with myself doing it again.

>>54909336
Nope, you just pick the units, although regiment tactics will be coming with the codex

>>54909272
Knights, Custodes, any Terminator based list (all marines can do them but Dark Angels and Grey Knights specialize in them most), and Tyranids with only big monsters.

The most functional choice out of those are Knights, but each Knight is pretty costly as a model. You can buy a bunch of cheap Terminators on eBay but they're a very gimmicky army.

A basic marine army, perhaps with a heavy focus on Dark Imperium Primaris models will be both affordable and flexible enough for future additions and gameplay, but will end up having at least 30-60 models compared to Knights at 3-5 or Terminatorwings that will have around 20.

>>54909353
Is this 8th or 7th edition?

>>54909365
You can paint them in colours other than metal now

>>54909365
Gonna need some more criteria then. Also, I thought crons weren't suffering to work with

>>54909382

8th

>>54909382
8th

>>54909394
I think I need to get the books to see what is what but if armored company is a thing again I already have my answer. I played the shit out of that chapter approved army. But there is part of me that wants to do Deamons or Dark Elder, but that wont meet my needs atm.

>>54909199

Fuck that Russian and his ability to make even looks I despise do strange things to my dick.

>>54909383
I painted the ceramics on a bunch of them when I was playing them but the army was a bit boring.

Should I kit my two ten man scion squads out with 4 plasma each or 4 plasma and 4 melta? Likely putting 2 plasma on the command squad

So what is the list of GW dudes and their biases?
Phil: Eldar buffs
Robin: IG buffs, nid nerfs
Ward: ultramarines ultramarines

So if you want a good codex you need one of these guys to be biased about your faction

Any advice for white scars in 8th?

>>54909478
4 plas 4 melta. The melta, although not as good out of deepstrike wrecks vehicles fast

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>>54909199
>old thread only on page 7
>didn't even link to this thread

What the fuck kind of piss-gargling retard keeps making these generals, and why haven't they killed themselves?

>>54909478
>>54909524
For some reason, my meltas always either miss or fail to wound.

>>54909553
Thats a fucking fallacy and you know it. I hate that "my dice are terrible" shit

>>54909502
Cruddace left
Kelly likes nids
Kelly likes space wolves
Ward likes grey knights and ultramarines

>>54909578
I know, I know. I probably just notice it more because I'm throwing less dice than plasma, but for that same reason it seems plasma are more effective.

>>54906551
Reposting halp pls

>>54909583
>Cruddace left
No? He had a big part in 8th

>>54909345
Huh. I had hoped Renegade would survive longer. I mean sure, the deal was kind of too good to be true, but still.

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>>54909399

search your feelings; you know it to be true

>>54909615
And Matt Ward had big part in AoS, yet he quit before it went public - these things are done months, even years, in advance.

>>54909383
Sure, but the most imaginative not-metal colour scheme I've seen so far was "hey let's paint them entirely with rust colours" (which looked damn good, but then the chucklefuck decided to paint the rods)

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>54909480
Buy the box and donate the other two sprues to me. You can make Mon'keigh Business a 6 man outfit.

As it stands, how can I successfully pair up Death Guard and Nurgle Daemons?

>>54909671
if they did it months in advance why the fuck we gotta wait so long for new codexes

>>54909671
Ward is also back again at GW though?

why the fuck does GW think people want monopose shit

>>54909627
Well fuck my nurses and call me a harem king, that's a good sign. Thanks for the heads up, man!

Looking at two guys setting up Warmachine at the flgs, lots of people are wanting to get 40k games in and they keep barking that these tables are reserved for Warmachine.

All their cockiness and surety that their game was better and GW sucks is gone.

>>54909751
cause they keep buying it

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>>54909751

>why the fuck does a company produce starter-kits and new edition openers with as little complications/variations as possible so as to net the most NormieBux™ i really can't believe it >:(

you

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Ave Dominus Nox brothers

>>54909741
He is, he could not stand Kirby's egomania, but Roundtree convinced him to get back to the fold.

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Hey /40kg/

I want to start a new krieger/guard army. but im not sure what to put in it because i have little knowledge about guard. i want a fluffy army, but i dont want to get tabled all the time in my competitive local. any tips on a good balance of fluff and tabletop strength?

money is not a concern so feel free to shoot out crazy ideas

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>>54909798

very nice

>>54909800
bullshit I doubt he even interacted that much with people that high up

>>54909789
A starter pack of 5 troops being monopose like they did back in the day (and still do with Cadians) is fine

The only decent looking HQ options being monopose is fucking lame

>>54909712
>Chaos Lord w/ Nurgle keyword
>Malignant Plaguecaster
>Plague Marines
>Plague Marines
>Plaguebearers

Additionally or alternatively:
>Epidemius
>Bloat Drone
>Bloat Drone
>6 Plague Drones

>>54909751
I could understand wanting to sell "easy" kits for people who can't hassle too much with building (ergo, normies/kids).

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>>54909825

>The only decent looking HQ options being monopose is fucking lame

yeah gonna have to agree with you there

>>54909798
that is a very clean and well-done white

>>54909812
Nothing but Abhumans loaded in Crassus.
You can hold tenish Bullgryn per plus some Commissar/Priest support.

>>54909671
he was playing in battle reports and doing interviews post 8th launch

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Daily reminder that this Russian guy draws those Lewd Sisters.

>>54909842
You still have some degree of customization possible. There's tons of arms, weapons, hands, banners and shit for all.

What I can't stand is the lack of equipment customization rule-wise on the Gravis Armour HQ or the Lord of Contagion.

>>54909825
git gud

Monopose HQs mean you need mad skillz to convert them without it looking awful. On the plus side, if you do make a noticeable change without it looking awful. everyone will compliment you for work well done and ask how you did it.

>>54909825
I still buy 5-pack Guardsmen every other trip to my LGS. You don't even notice the 3 monoposes with enough the the table.

>>54909615
Cruddace also was doing battle reports for 8th on twitch, he fought a gsc player and was talking about how much he hates them in the pregame show.

>>54909798
Kudos. My white always looks like shit, like a painted wall or something, yours ended up gorgeous.

>>54909855
Russians do a lot of quality 40k OC. I'm cool with it, even if I don't understand their vodka runes.

>>54909855
He looks like the kind of guy who would keep a woman locked in a cage.
Like a bad guy from Taken or Taken 2

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>you will never confess to your null maiden qtpie, and see a tear roll down her face as she realises she cannot say i love you back

>>54909800
So the other guy has no clue what he is talking about

>>54909855
So? Lots of people who masturbate to his drawings probably look worse than him.

>>54909844
i have a preator already, guess i should get 10 bullgryns and club some punnies to death

>>54909904
>he fought a gsc player and was talking about how much he hates them in the pregame show
ahaha that explains a lot, how did he end up being charge of the nid dex then?

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>>54909912

>download filename
>horrible post

how's the shit coming along

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>>54909825
>The only decent looking HQ options being monopose is fucking lame
hey guess what
those used to be one hunk of pewter
with no separate limbs

These days you don't even need a dremel to convert monopose HQ units.

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Is GW going to update Kill Team rules? I want to play something like AoS skirmish with 40k models but I don't really like SW:A

>>54909895
Same goes for that mini box of Termagants. The only way to spot monobuild Termagants is to know where to look and nobody looks that closely at your shitty little locust blob anyway.

>>54909855
/h/ had a perpetual thread focused on real identities of hentai authors - there's far worse people drawing far worse things

>>54909942
least it's not from a tv show

>>54909968
>tfw you'd probably just be a lowly cultist and get splattered by some higher ranking chaos servant
screw this i'm going with nurgle, at least he loves you

>>54909953
The only ork warboss that you can buy individually still is a hunk of pewter

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>>54909904
Damn the GSC must've stung his ego.
>loves IG
>hates Nids
>new faction that lets Nids indirectly ally with IG
serves the fucking bastard right, hope the GSC guy trounced him

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>>54910000

digits check

>>54909954
>>54909954

Doubt it. Shadow War and the new Necromunda are probably going to fill up the 40k skirmish space.

>>54909967
And then there's Yuzuki 'N Dash, who not only draws really raunchy buttsex but also happens to be a serious qt.

>>54909954
Damn those look great.

Has anyone got a Black Legion e-pub they're willing to share?

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>>54909954

I WANT REDEMPTIONISTS FOR NECROMUNDA

>>54910068
http://www116.zippyshare.com/v/TyoHWJnD/file.html

>>54910075
is that a 40k comic or 2000AD? The outright bolt weapons should tell me enough but idk

>>54910092
I wish 40k still cribbed 2000AD's style instead of trying to be realistic

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>>54910003
>most iconic ork unit
>doesn't have a plastic kit
Still boggles my noggin' up to this very day.

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WTF is this? You can make any tabletop you want and play?
How come I never heard about this? It has W40K, Space Hulk and Hero Quest.
Has anyone tried it? Is it fun?
I am shilling , apologies..

http://store.steampowered.com/app/286160/Tabletop_Simulator/

>>54909502
Cruddace plays Howling Griffins

>>54910122
its alright, but not tabletop

>>54910122
Lets me try out REALLY stupid lists

But >>54910143 is right, just not the same

>>54910092

Its a 40k comic about the Redeemer. It's great.

>>54910119
There is a plastic one but
-he's technically a special character (swap out his head to remedy that)
-you can't buy him individually. He comes bundled with some nobs whether you like it or not, jacking his price up

>>54910122

It's fun, just lacks the satisfaction of building and painting.
There's a decent sized community on some Discord channel I believe.

>>54910143
I mean, virtual tabletop. Or you mean the rules are not the same?

Can you play online and with an AI?
I have no friends.

>>54910003
Hunk of resin, there are very very few pewter models left in gw's lines, the only ork ones I can think of being goff rockas (understandable) and grot tekkies (fuck gw this kit is the shit)

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>>54909798
>++WE HAVE COME FOR YOU!++ intensifies.
Well done m8!

>>54910172
It says metal on the online store
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Ork-Warboss-with-Big-Choppa
>This set contains 1 metal Ork Warboss with Big Choppa.

>>54910122
tts, it's alright it's pretty clunky though, the hitboxes on terrain are infuriating and rolling dice is not the same. It's like a nicotine patch for your 30 a day habit.

>>54910153
>hey that looks good can I try a bite?
>sure
>HAHAHA THANKS FOR THE FREE FOOD, FUCKER

Lol I'm gonna have to try this IRL.

>>54910169
no online, and what i meant is that a virtual tabletop isnt as cool as the real deal

>>54910153
Rude.

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>heh I was only pretending

>>54909751
I've already resolved to convert a Primaris Captain from he Intercessor box and bitz rather than pay 60 dollarydoos for that monopose bullshit GW released.

>>54910198
no ai, online only*

>>54910169
>play online
Yes
>with ai
no but there are an abundance of tyranid solo missions around the web and they basically play themselves without synapse so you can always go that route

>>54910198
Of course. I can tell there is no comparison. But in my situation it might be the only way I could try W40K, apart from the vidya and the novels.

>>54910092
warhammer monthly/inferno! had many 2000AD guys working on it

ironic considering it was basically just 2000AD but for warhammer

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>>54910153

How are Plague Drones in practice?

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>Cuck Bearers need to cut themselves for attention so the Gods help them

Pathetic.

>>54910251
bad

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>>54909912
I agree, may as well kill yourself now

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>>54910190
why the fuck did they discontinue the resin one with attack squig and keep the metal one.
God I hate GW.
Pic related, but slightly wrong now.

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>>54910278
>you will never drink duncan's paint water

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So I'm sort of unfamiliar with Necromunda. How does it play (anything like Shadow War?) and what gangs can you play and what do they do and can you play as something aside from gangs (like arbites).

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>start playing Winter Assault for the first time
>Eldar tutorial
>sexy captains
>qt blade assassins begging for me to tell them what to do
>comfy snipers with out of sync electronic voices

WTF, I love Eldar now. Didn't know about this! (Only familiar with the Imperium)

>tutorial with the Imperial Guard
>ORK LIKE humanoids called Ogryns come out

How are those guys NOT heresy? Are they %100 human dna?

>>54909904
Who doesn't hate GSC?

GSC players obviously, but those cases for eugenics hardly count.

>>54910251
Tough as nails and shockingly strong in melee, especially considering how relatively cheap they are.

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Thank you doggos for the Tabletop Simulator answers. Might try it on sale sometime.

>>54910088
I'm the anon who asked originally, not the cunt who replied. Thank you so much.

>>54910307
Its basically shadow war but with more permanence as there are actual campaigns

>>54910317
They're fine as a classic concept and the quality of their models is good but as an army they're just sort of like ehhhhh

Waste of good company resources and CAD sculpts.

>>54910310
Get this elvish trash out of here!

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Just wanted to share this. Not the best painter but i try

>>54910290
Now tell me how old half those sculpts are

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>>54910290
gw fix ths

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>>54910260
>you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours

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>>54910317
They showed some... redeeming qualities in the past

>>54910160
>He comes bundled with some nobs whether you like it or not, jacking his price up
>nobz, £15
>grukk kit, £32
>he costs more than 5 nobz
>doesn't even have rules anymore
?????????????

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>>54910353
Just saying. I am more of an Imperial Guard guy. I shat my pants when basilisks, hellhounds and a BANEBLADE came out at the tutorial.

>>54910310
Ogryns are "ab-humans", they came about when some human colonies were stuck on high gravity worlds for generations

>>54910310
Ogryns are Abhumans. Abhumans are separate to Mutants, Mutants are only different to humans due to chaos corruption of their DNA, Abhumans are either naturally evolved from humans (beastmen, felinids), or are genetically engineered (Ogryns, Navigators). Abhumans are much more likely to be sanctioned than xenos, and while some are confined to only one planet, others are regularly seen all across the imperium.

>>54910310
They're officially sanctioned ab-humans, so they're legal non-heretical mutants with almost entirely human DNA. Ratings Squats and Felinids are too. There's even sanctioned xenos. Heresy is only things that aren't sanctioned or detrimental to mankind. And yes, something as dumb as Eldar girlfriends and talking shit about the Emperor ARE actually potentially lethal and dangerous in the setting of 40K.

>>54910317
I wonder is gscb is still alive

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>>54910378

>>54910307
It plays pretty similar to shadowwar

You have Various Gangs, Arbites and Redemptionists. But dont Expect to be playing SpaceMarines or anything like that

I believe it will be similar to Blood-Bowl with them releasing a new Gang-Kit every now and then and have the Special Characters from Forge-World

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>>54910384
Woa. There is always something in 40K that amazes me.
Today I learned that lasgun ammo packs can recharge va small solar panels on them.

>>54910396
>>54910391
Cool, you guys are very cool on /40K/ threads for answering basic stuff to us the plebs (vidya/novels).

>>54910307
shadow war is literally necromunda, with some tweaks

>can you play as something aside from gangs (like arbites)
You can, but arbites are more intended as a campaign GM's tool to combat outlawed/powerful gangs. In regular play they get boring fast, because they ignore so much of what makes up the gameplay.

Spryers are a proper non-gang force though, which are bored hive nobles coming down in super suits to kill the lower classes for sport.

>>54910310
Mutants are treated differently world to world. Some get to join the IG as penance for the crime of their existence.

>>54910373
Holy shit not this again

Wow, at this rate people will have to start really buying BL audiobooks. There's no torrent links for the newest of them anywhere... ;(

>>54910381
Baneblade is the best relic unit in the game, also max out on Basilisks for best results and attach a priest to the ogryns for maximum tankiness.

Actually I can´t remember if you had priests in Winter assault

>>54910447
I wasn't the one who gave the book.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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>>54910396
>felinids
..furrys in muh 40K?

I learned from the Eisenhorn trilogy that I shouldn't even make jokes about aliens or say anything remotely positive about them..

>>54910447
>mfw this guy is secretly GW trying to condition /tg/ to use the word Aeldari and not share pirates rule simply out of spite

>>54910212
What's wrong with this? I thought it was awesome

Hey anons, I found out that the CSM codex came out. What are all the differences rules/points wise?

>>54910462
I got a general with a priest and a psyker by his side. Not sure, just on mission 1 now.

>>54909798
>Theres always a better painter than you
Kills me every time. Looks. Great, man.

>>54910307
Okay, first of all consider that Necromunda (as it is right now, no idea if it'll stay that way) is based on 2nd Ed 40k, so it plays quite a bit differently and is, frankly, clunky as hell coming from 8th.

Shadow War gives you a generally good idea, though.

As for the gangs, there's

>Orlock: The balanced gang, basically a biker gang with mohawks, except without the bikes
>Goliath: Slow, dumb and brutal. Hooligans and skinheads with big axes and big guns. Slow, tough, aggressive, but not good shots, therefore rather underpowered
>Delaque: Wear trenchcoats and goggles. Specialize in stealth and shooting, but catch them in melee and they're fucked.
>Escher: Feminazi butch lesbians. Bum rush you and cut you down with swords.
>Cawdor: Crazy witch-hunters who run around killing everything that seems less human than they are, preferably with fire
>Van Saar: Starter friendly, but not in the jack-of-all-trades way but in the "OP fucking bullshit" sort of way. Access to lots of plasma combined with Techno skills to make their plasma more reliable

And then from the supplement
>Redemptionist Crusade: Cawdor on angry, angry meth. More melee, more flamers, more cannonfodder
>Spyrers: Brats of hive nobles who are gives Gantz-style suits with super powers. Can't recruit and can't replace their losses, but each model is so strong that they're basically boogeymen, both in fluff and in game.
>Scavvies: wasteland mutants with shit guns. Rely on cannon fodder, can lure Plague Zombies into the battle and can mutate their gangers. Instead of heavy weapons guys, they have Scalies, big mutants with either big guns or big melee weapons
>Enforcers: Arbites under any other name
>Ratskin Renegades: I have no fucking clue what these are.

>>54909583
>>54909502
You guys do know that Ward is a Necron player, and admits to having been for years, right?
Jesus, this is what happens when you get all of your information from memes.

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>>54910381

the mission where you have to relocate your entire eldar base withing IG's and defend against a million orks was pretty nailbiting

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>>54910088
Can whoever manages the Mega put this shit in there so people stop asking for it every god damn thread?

>>54910498
>can't win fair fight
>have to set trap.

At least they ain't as bad as the Iron Warriors, who set a trap and ended up even against the Imperial Fists.

>>54910525
I heard that New Necromunda's going to be 8th based rather than 2e based, which made a friend of mine rather angry, unfortunately.

>>54910528
Wait, so memes are an unreliable source of information ?

Gosh darnit.

>>54910508
WA campaign is decent but short and kind of easy even in hard mode

>>54910338
>>54910415
>>54910433
>>54910525
Muchos Gracias

>>54910473
It varies a lot from place to place, but around anywhere an inquisitor would be, yee.
Still, there are plenty of border-worlds of the imperium where humans trade openly with xenos, the xenos just have to be small enough for the imperium at large not to care, and profitable enough for the planetary governor to want the status quo to remain. The tau traded peacefully with the imperium between the second sphere of expansion and the first damocles crusade, they only started invading the imperium in retaliation to damocles.

Also rogue traders and radical inquisitors can get away with literally anything they want. Want an eldar GF? Just slap a purity seal on dat ass and it's all good as long as she remains within 1.5 meters of you anywhere crowds would be likely to freak out and lynch her.

>>54910559
Where did uncle Fred touch you? It's okay, we understand.

>>54910505
Defilers are much cheaper, Possessed are 2W, Baleflame Heldrake is cheaper, Daemon Prince weapons are cheaper. Some other ones too, but that's what I recall off the top of my head.

>>54910558
The reason to care about the new necromunda for the models, don't expect the rules to be worth a damn.

>>54910555

>expecting the night lords to fight a fair fight

>>54909753
>Well fuck my nurses and call me a harem king, that's a good sign. Thanks for the heads up, man!
They've also gone into some detail on Hive Secundus plans - nuked hive the Genestealers took over ages ago. Given that they're re-using other assets I wouldn't be surprised to see the Gard/Deserters and boxed set cultists come back for another whirl 'round the block.

>>54909751
Eh? Shit costs less, for starters. Monopose lasts, like, five minutes around me anyway. I've been playing Sisters since their inception so hacking shit up is second nature at this point.

>>54909842
>>54909825
This is kinda bullshit, but only in the sense that it discourages newbies from hacking things up.

>>54910505
>>54910603
Bikes much cheaper, power fists much cheaper, cultists and daemons much cheaper, terminator lord cheaper.

Legion tactics, unique stratagems, warlord traits, more psychic powers.

>>54910424
You are lucky. Most of the shiposters are not here right now.
But yes, even with the shit throwing, /40k/general is obviously well versed in the lore, up to autism degree.

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>>54910603
>>54910634
Woah, nice! What's the best DP weapon option now? Is it still twin claws or are the other options better now? Are Posessed finally worth taking now?

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>>54910555
>being this much of an imperial cuck

Sure thing buddy

>>54910678
Daemon Prince weapons are pretty equal right now, comes down to what you want your DP to do really.

If you had to make up a "champion" (kharn/lucius style) for one of the Legions without one (AL, NL, IW, WB) which one would you do, and how would you do him?

First to say Honsou gets a free surprise colonoscopy with a gas powered ground augur

ordered shit from gw 12 days ago... 7 working days delivery..

8 working days later... !!!!!!! where is my plastic!!!!!

>>54910698
That got retconned.

And the new lore isn't contested in the chaos codex.

It was a trap that IW sprung, but it was 50/50 till the Ultramarines scared away Perturabo like the coward he was.

>>54910678
I personally think possessed are pretty solid, but I play word bears so was going to take them regardless.

They're essentially Power Axe armed chosen with twice the wounds, more speed and an invulnerable save for a point more.

>>54909611
it's garbage, apply yourself

>>54910707
Word Bearers: A Dark Apostle with the Chaos Lord statline, who allows rerolls of all misses even those outside of CC. Also has a slight bonus to summoning.

>>54910213
Just get the AoS guy and slap a power pack on him.

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>>54910707
Decimus from the ADB novels for NL.

>More improved version of the NL warlords trait
>Relic blade equivalent
>some kind of boost related to unity for all <Night Lords> units

Any other 8th legion nibbas wanna chime in?

>>54910066
Hey, mang, Shindol does raunch, Yuzuki-chan only does affectionate, consensual buttsex.
And occasionally affectionate nonconsensual buttsex

>>54909795
>proper flush ground clippers
minimal cleaning up
>save you so much time.

never clip flush, it makes your models look like crap.

Always clip up on thegate.
hobby knife the nub off.
then sand it down.

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>>54910669
But you reply with good info.
Try to go to /a/ and ask those spergs about something. See what they say.

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What happened to that one edgelord who was painting his Kriegers up like Nazis a few months ago? That was fucking funny.

>Ultraheavy Primaris tank in the making
Boy oh boy. They are really really really going to replace everything marinelets, Land Raiders being next.
What's left? Flyers? Termies? I want some customizable Gravis guys.

>>54910678
>ask what's the best
>don't look at rules and try to interpret it yourself
>just take the word of 4chan memers and base your hobby investments off of it

I assume you don't actually do this, but c'mon man. "What's the best?"

I don't know why this triggered me but it did.

>>54910791
Domeone at GW's been playing Owerwatch.

>>54910791
Funny until you have to face real society, anyway.

>>54910795
Are you a tard nigga? the primaris tank is out already

>>54910795
Source?

>>54910812
>he doesn't know

>>54910066
>>54910756

They're tryong to communicate

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>>54910213
>I've already resolved to convert a Primaris Captain from he Intercessor box and bitz rather than pay 60 dollarydoos for that monopose bullshit GW released.
I just took the $5 one from a discounted "start playing" book at the LGS and threw a shitload of my old bitz on him. Doesn't look too bad.

>>54910525
>>Ratskin Renegades: I have no fucking clue what these are.
Native Americans in hivespace. Worship rats instead of horses and buffalo. Live deep down in sump-shit and use black-powder guns to raid for better food than mushrooms/rat/snek.

Also
>Ash Wastes Nomads
Part of an abortive expansion/relaunch for the game, have trukks and live in the shanties outside the hives. Raid convoys, mine for assorted nifty things in the hives' effluvia. All come with >at least< flugs or a rebreather.
The AWN models fit in nicely with Cawdors/Redemptors. They were part of a three-pronged reboot with new Goliath and Orlock models, but it never really got anywhere since Specialist Games started to collapse at the same time.

>>54910558
>I heard that New Necromunda's going to be 8th based rather than 2e based, which made a friend of mine rather angry, unfortunately.
Honestly, it's been a couple decades and there were always bullshit parts of the 2e rehash. I'll hold off judgement until it hits. Worst comes to worst I can still fuck around with SWA and Zone Mrotalis rules.

>>54910795

I expected it to be a floating Spartan. They don't have the talent available to come up with creative new designs right now. Just look at that flying shitbrick they call the Custodes flyer.

>>54910817

FW weekend.

>>54910805
>bait this hard

>Ultraheavy Primaris tank in the making
Boy oh boy. They are really really really going to replace everything marinelets, Land Raiders being next.
What's left? Flyers? Termies? I want some customizable Gravis guys.

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>>54910791
Here is an old pic of my attempt at that

>>54910806
Yeah. People see "funny" stuff like that online but never think how cringe inducing it would be to see in person. Hopefully they were all just recasts, cause I can't imagine spending that much on a joke otherwise.

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>>54910710
lmao ok, let me know what Gulliman's arsehole tastes like

>>54909812
Read siege of vraks series in imperial armour.
It is a must read for any krieger.

>>54910707
Alpha legion.
Alpharius.
Lore: Probably not the "real" Alpharius, but you can never be sure.
Traits: Standard space marine stats, 4W, BS2+, grants your entire army infiltrate. Instead of deploying him normally on the battlefield, you do the ymgarl genestealer thing, where you pick 6 pieces of terrain, give them all a number between 1 and 6, and write down one of those numbers on a piece of paper, and putting that face down in an open space. You can reveal the number on that at any time, and then immediately deploy alpharius there.
He has power armour and a rapid fire 2 sniper plasma pistol that allows you to allocate the wounds you cause as you wish, instead of the opponent doing so.

Essentially he jumps out of the bushes as your opponents squad passes, and kills either your special weapons guys or your key elite (think waagh banner, venomthrope, ancient, etc.)
Then he usually dies. But it's okay, because he always "gets better".


I mean this would work pretty well for Omegon too, as a returning primarch, he was the stealthy one.

Be sure to only use soul grinders when fighting for chaos.

>>54910796
Some people are statblind.
They can tell s8 ap -2 isbetter than s6 ap - 0 but bring in extra attacks, rerolls, or better s worse ap and it becomes hard.

S'why i play orks.
Not much in the way of sidegrades its just usually more points for plain better options.

>>54910858
I prey to god it looks better than the repulsor.

>>54910859
How so?

>>54910707
Eliphas

>>54910895

The Repulsor looks really good until you start tacking on all the little tidbits and the top turret. Its really the top turret that ruins it, though.

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>>54910869
Looks pretty good.

>>54910707
Iron warriors.
The Reductor Lord.
Terminator armour with cyclone missiles and a "chainfist" thats one of those drills off the assault centurions.
has an Aura buff makes himself and nearby units ignore cover.

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>>54910763
This was my entire experience with Neon Genesis Evangelion. /a/ is literally useless.

>>54910895
Most aptly named unit in the game.
Repulsed me from the second first i saw it.

>>54910744

Decimus would be pretty sweet. There really aren't any other NL characters out there as most of their lore is from the NL book, and most of those characters are dead. I would love to see a character with a relic chainglaive (I'm assuming they're relics since no night lords still have them apparently).

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>>54910906
>>54910737
Eliphas w/ these stats. And a super power maul.

Will the clans get rules in the new ork codex?

>>54910936
Daemonic force maul.

>>54910909
What, are you telling me you have a problem with a turret having more weapons than other army's main battle tanks?

>>54910942
Probably.

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>>54910852
>>54910525
(cont)
And the Ash Wasters

Part of the "reboot" was a bunch of semi-swappable weaponry and magnet compatibility. It would have been great if it ever took off.

>>54910953

Not necessarily. But it just looks so uncreative. Its like jamming spikes into a hammer and then calling it a flail.

>>54910925
Incredible

>>54910953
Naw.
Rather that it looks like a Bradley.

A purpose built vehicles that had so many last minute additions that it lost its ability to serve *any* purpose except put yet another generation of designer's children through college.

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How good are Flash Gitz & Lootas?
I like the idea of """elite""" shooty Orks

>>54910990

That might explain my extreme dislike for the top turret. I fucking hate the Bradley.

>>54910925
Its a 20 year old anime thats been discussed to death, what did you expect?

>>54910878
thts overly complex.
just let him show up anywhere mre than x from enemy units.

maybe instead of all that comlexity give him a rule that lets him target characters, but individual models in units as well. So he can pick off seargants and heavy weapons.

>>54911016
shinji being a whiny piece of shit made me stop watching desu

>>54910934
>relic chainglaive
I bought some of the nostraman chainglaives from FW and give them to champions and chosen

>>54911009
I think there's a image caption floating around making the comparison.

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Rumour solved I think

>>54911074
What rumor friend o?

>>54911082
the newest rumor engine from the main site.

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>>54911082

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/16/rumour-engine-august-16th-2017/

>>54911040
That's pretty dope got pictures of your stuff to share with the class m8?

>>54911016
>20 years old means looking to discuss it today is stupid
Like I get what you're trying to say but it's still fucking confusing to new people.
>>54911003
YES.
Like, really fucking strong.
Fill up trukks with them, it's the best use for trukks this edition, and use the trukks to speed them to their best firing angle, before sitting them there the entire game. Lootas are fantastic with the changes to vehicle armour, they're now by far your best choice for killing anything T6 or T7, and the reroll stratagem lets you reroll a 1 at a bad time.
Flash gits too, are great, especially at killing medium-heavy infantry. S5 AP-2 means you wound space marines on 3s and they have 5+ saves against the shots, 4+ for termies. Nid Warriors and crisis suits, anything with decent but not hueg toughness, and a decent save, melts to gits.

>>54911074
>>54911095
Ahh! Nice catch man.

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>>54910707
Kathal, Sons of Malice.

Basic chaos lord statline, if your army is battleforged as Sons of Malice, then their Death to the False Emperor rule is inverted to working on anything with the Chaos keyword instead. Regenerates wounds for killing characters.

>>54911074
>DG apothecary
>Plague Doctor

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>>54910707
For the Alpha Legion I would bring back Exodus as a body snatching sniper, less a man and more of a demon of sorts, perhaps a demon prince, who knows. Instead of a movement value Exodus instantly moves to an AL marine and replaces him.

>>54910678
DP weapons all cost the same, I'd say axe just for the extra point of rending, claws still tied for best and sword a shit.

Possessed are decent now, not a bad choice but completely overshadowed by OP berserkers.

>>54911127
Don't the have a guy called The Instrument, too?

I wanted to hate alpha legion, but damned if they don't have cool shit.

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>>54910925
Well they got maid outfit figures out.

>>54911192
The Instrument is Exodus' sniper rifle.

Help. Im getting addicted to kitbash.
Hoard of Bits is close to archive 100 bucks payed from meself. Help.

...Anonymous
08/16/17(Wed)18:18:16 No.54911165
Anyone have some interesting suggestions for a Scions paint scheme? Sort of stuck on how I want to paint them, and then carry that scheme over to a guard army in some fashion.

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>>54910678
For Daemon Prince weapons those paired Talons are the best.
The number of attacks a Slaanesh Daemon Prince armed with a pair of Malefic Talons can pump out would make a Khorne Daemon Prince green with envy.
Possessed are good, kind of expensive, but having two wounds is actually a surprisingly big buff since you can allocate wounds yourself and keep your squad alive longer, plus if you go Slaanesh you can cast Delightful Agonies on them to make them even more durable than anything Nurgle can have.
For bonus points put an Exalted Champion near the Possessed and their horrible mutations become +1S Lightning Claws instead of a Power Axe with some more attacks.
The d3 number of attacks thing hurts sometimes, but even if you get unlucky and get only 1 attack each they're still great. There are obviously things more deadly in melee but they're a tad bit cheaper than those options.
But then if you're Emperor's Children you can use a stratagem on them to generate more attacks when they kill something.

>>54910678
>>54911244

IIt depends on what kind of DP and what it's hunting.

I ran the number for my nurgle DP hunting rhinos and the axe edges double claws by .6 wounds

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>>54911227
Yeesss anon, embrace the cool custom models and fluffy army variety. Look at all the cool shit you could do with just Admech! There's another few dozen armies after yours to make stuff for....

>>54910707
Iron Warriors.
Ferrous Ironclaw.
terminator Chaos lord stats with Warp smith rules and mechatendrils.
partially infected with obliterator virus, has the fleshmetal gun.
Aura buff gives bonus to coversaves.

lore about resisting total obliterator infection through stubborn willpower or maybe dark pacts of an unspeakable nature.

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>>54911275
My winged Daemon Prince with Talons was dedicated to Slaanesh, it was my warlord, I run Emperor's Children.
I gave it Intoxicating Elixir relic and Stimulated by Pain warlord trait.
It took three mortal wounds from a pair of exploding Helbrutes, then flew at the Storm Talon that exploded it, casting Diabolic Strength on itself as it did.
My Daemon Prince ripped that Storm Talon out of the air in one round of attacks, it was beautiful.
I ended up losing the game because it was the vehicle campaign mission and I just lost too many of my things to all his tanks and flyers, but that Daemon Prince ripping that Storm Talon out of the air was glorious.
But yeah it depends on what you want it to do I suppose, just feels like the sheer number of attacks kind of outperforms other options in majority scenarios.

So why doesn't a standard bearer become a character? It and a medic give all these useful buffs in an IG command squad but there's nothing stopping the other guy from OBLITERATING them like Commissar have.

>>54911284
>Cybernetically enhanced Carnivorae
You have my attention.

>>54909199
so been looking at running a the death korps of krieg.

1: if you run a normal infentry unit with the the death korps of krieg regiment type do they get Cult of sacrifice?
2: can you run normal veterin with the the death korps of krieg infentry?

How much does the eldar know about the chaos gods that aren't Slaanesh?

>>54911389
Yes, that does mean the Divisio Genetor command cyborg dinosaurs. I was considering finding a base model and making some T-rex Ironstrider gun platforms, but I need my Ironstrider Autocannon for my Space Whale Marauder.
Also, the Carnosaur is the only similar model I've yet found and they're on bigger bases and cost a bajillionty pounds.

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>>54910528
>Ward is a Necron player
That explains the backstory changes

>>54911482
Most there is to know about them.

>>54910678
I mean possessed aren't utter trash anymore but having d3(unreliable 2) attacks at s5/-2/1 just doesn't really make them unreliable even at 2 wounds, especially because they lack speed and don't have rerolls, very swingy,

I'd rather go with warp talons guaranteed 11 attacks, they have less S but get to rerolls wounds(really good with votlw) get to deepstrike and ignore overwatch.

If you do manage to get your possessed in savely though they are much better and cheaper though then again possessed+a rhino costs about much as the warp talons. Might be worth trying out desu

I find that bikers might just be one of the best units in the codex now, as you get to shoot all your guns at once now and they may take special weapons while keeping the bike weapons. They are also super quick and require some dedication to kill (the best way might just be 8overcharged plasmashots or 36 heavybolter shots) while costing just as much as 2 csm. However they aren't too great at melee other than binding other units. Definitely worth running for objective grabbing and flanking

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>>54911482
they have an entire library and a force dedicated to fighting chaos

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>>54911513
Wait, nevermind. Found a triceratops thing that's about right, all it'd need would be a Skitarii rider or servitor or something and the TLascannon integrated into the crest. Add some more generic cybernetics and possibly some armour and boom. Dinostrider.

Tail would stick out a little beyond the 105x70mm base, but no matter.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXCD_60MylI

So I've found this, anyone else run experiments/estimates like this? Are faults really this common? If this is at all correct I see very little reason to buy anything FW for hobby's sake.and almost none for gaming if very few FW kits are actually OP compared to main GW stuff.

>>54911575
On the Warp Talons you can summon a Daemon Herald to buff their strength.
You can do the same for Possessed though I guess, but 5 strength is often times equally as reliable as 6 strength.
As for a Possessed units speed, they're 7", that's faster than most infantry. Warp Talons are faster though.
Depends how many points you have, I modelled a box of Warp Talons as Raptors so I could use the Lightning Claws for my unit of Lightning Claw Chosen, because Warp Talons can't take an Icon of Excess.

>>54910872
>retcons don't matter unless it makes chaos look better!
Get a load of this chucklehead.

>>54909553
Meltas are magical. That said between meltagun guns in transport that have 24"+D6 turn and Inferno pistols with 24" movement with fly. It is easy as fuck to spam 18+ and reliable kill anything.
My favourite being turn one Knight nuking

What's the best legion to pick for my tank detachment (literally just HQ + vindi + 3 preds) while waiting for the 1ksons book to come out?

And what HQ? I'll have Magnus and at least one Exalted Sorcerer, but I don't know who else to bring. Can I do another Exalted Sorc even if my tanks are from the codex?

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>>54910744
Decimus is kinda boring IMO, make thig guy.>>54910707

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>>54911389
>>54911513

Do you guys think theres any merit in running 5 man Crusader squads with two power weapons? Now that sharing a transport is a thing you can easily set both squads for a charge but Im not sure if its worth it.

>>54911513
>Also, the Carnosaur is the only similar model I've yet found and they're on bigger bases and cost a bajillionty pounds.
...you could just get a $7 plastic dino from whatever Her Majesty's equivalent of Target is, you know. They paint up acceptably. There's also http://www.antediluvianminiatures.com/ - lots of Harryhausen-esque Lost World minis.

>>54911719
crusaders have no wargear options, they're always storm shield+power sword

also because of the way acts of faith work, a squad of 10 will always be more effective than a squad of 5

>>54911746
>>54911719
He's talkin about Black Templars I believe.

Confusing, that.

>>54911711
Thats how I've been flavoring my lord atm. Would be cool as hell though, cool guy to have the relic glaive.

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>>54911746
I meant Crusader squads for Black Templars, not Crusaders.

So im struggling with my nid list, i have 3 of almost every kit. Anyone want to help me brainstorm some options?

Here's what i know i want to run

HQ
Swarmlord - 300pts

Troops
Genestealer Brood x 20 - 240pts
Genestealer Brood x 20 - 240pts
Genestealer Brood x 20 - 240pts
Termagaunt Brood x 30 - 120pts
Termagaunt Brood x 30 - 120pts


I know i should probably put in a ranged shooting option so maybe an exocrine or two but hive guard are also pretty good.

If a Slaaneshi Marine kills someone in close combat, doesn't Khorne still gain power from that?

>>54911731
Yeah, that link is where the triceratops pic is from. I assumed the plastic dino toys wouldn't be particularly detailed, but I suppose I am about to bolt laser cannons and layered armour plating into the poor thing, so that wouldn't be too tricky to overlook. I'll have a scan around when I next need to go shopping, because I kinda want dino cavalry to match my whale airship now.

I spend more time on 40kg than on the porn boards...wtf

>>54911673
Not him, but the only thing worse than chaoswank is ultrawank. Even tauwank doesn't compare to ultrawank.

How fun is Inquisition 28? I love looking at conversions they make for it, but what does it play like?

>>54911809
Is there a difference?

>>54911758
>>54911780
oh, in that case then sure

Though honestly speaking, razorbacks are a lot more useful than rhinos in this edition. You'd be better served splitting them into two of those.

>>54910401
Yes, I lurk <3

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>>54911772
I think it's funny that the scribe who wrote that believes breaching shipping contracts is not immoral. He likely leaves out the man butchering high gothic pronunciation was most likely a rich noble who had no excuse.

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>>54911809
That sounds like the healthier option to be honest

>>54911819
Chaos, ultra, marine and Tau wank try very hard to topple each other.

>>54911794
Yes but if a khorne marine kills someone in close combat slaanesh gains power due to their excessive emotions.

>>54911809
I'm lurking /s/ and /d/. One day I get in a fight about dark eldar lore in some bdsm thread. You can stop lurking 40kg but you will never run away anon

>>54909933
Most sisters of battle don't even like guys over 8ft tall so I don't see a problem. You're just using your height to make up for your lack of faith in the emperor I bet you have never even chainsawed your way through so many orks that you were literall standing on a pile of orks by the end of it. I hope you get sent on a stealth mission and then see how much you like being tall go fuck yourself faggit.

>>54910905
I take it back
Blizzard invented skull faced dudes in robes with guns

Looking to start a new Night Lords army, trying to figure out a list to build towards. Feedback on what I've got so far?


Outrider Detachment
Sorcerer with Jump Pack: Bolt pistol, Force sword, Prescience, Warptime

2x(Raptors: Icon of Despair, Mark of Nurgle
2x Raptor
Raptor Champion: 2x Plasma pistol
Raptor w/ Plasma gun)

Warp Talons x10

Heldrake: Baleflamer, Heldrake claws

Battalion Detachment
Chaos Lord with Jump Pack: Claws of the Black Hunt, 2x Lightning Claw

Sorcerer with Jump Pack: Bolt pistol, Death Hex, Diabolic Strength, Force sword

Chaos Space Marines: Mark of Nurgle
Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Chainsword
3x Marine w/ Chainsword
Marine w/ Lascannon

2x(Chaos Space Marines: Icon of Despair, Mark of Nurgle
Aspiring Champion: Plasma pistol, Power sword
3x Marine w/ Chainsword
Marine w/ Plasma gun)

Chaos Terminators: Mark of Slaanesh, Combiplas/power swords x5

Chaos Rhino: Combi-bolter, Havoc launcher

Chaos Rhino: Combi-bolter, Havoc launcher

Hellforged Contemptor Dreadnought: Havoc launcher, Deathclaw, Butcher cannon

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>>54911832
I want a book about that Night Lord though, his years of punishing true injustice and his made descent.

we should start a write fag thread

>>54911854
But only if he gets off doing it

>>54911794
The chaos gods all empower each other, but malal is the first law of thermodynamics come to bite them in the ass. Any gains in power the big four get from mutual co-operation is cancelled out by malal's influence.
at least that's how I headcanon it, it would make sense as to why he's so small and the chaos gods are so distrusting of each other, if they ever started seriously working together malal would become a serious force to reckon with.

>>54911837
It's some kind of god damned circlejerk.

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Is he a fucking apothecary for Death Guard?

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>>54911801
>I assumed the plastic dino toys wouldn't be particularly detailed
Honestly they aren't that bad. This is one I bought for my wife (and painted up with her hair/skin color and nail polish..) as a joke a few years ago. Even with all the wear to the paint job, the detail on the sides and face are pretty great.

>>54911928
who do you think the deathguard go to when they start to feel non-sick or well? old dc gives you a case of HIV that'll make you feel dead again

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>>54911928
Its Nurgle's Doctors Without Borders, going around administering the cure to the disease you call life.

PRAISE NURGLE!.

>>54911916
Any usually but not limited to kind of pride or enjoyment.

Ultimately they're going to help their own deity more than others.

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>>54911961
>Nurgle's Doctors Without Borders
Bless your disease ridden heart.

>>54911928
possibly? though he might just be some kind of poison man

But every faction getting some kind of medic would be cool with me. Medics are cool.

>>54911928
>gives nurglites 4+ fnps
NOPE
DO NOT WANT
FUK OFF + DIE

>>54911913
>his made descent.
mad?
Are you implying that Rarth is insane?
Are you so foolish as to think that following in the steps of the Night Haunter is not the most rational choice? Do you breach shipping contracts? Can you pronounce high gothic with a Nostramen accent?
Careful or perhaps Rarth will come for you.
I never read writefag shit so I will leave that to you.
Also Decimus is a shit

>>54911921
I like the idea that malal is the warp's auto-immune system.

The stronger the gods get the stronger he gets, constantly attacking them and tearing down their achievements, ensuring they don't exterminate their food source inadvertently and inronically perpetuating that which he is trying to destroy.

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>>54911999

>>54911921
>>54912027

I always just think of Malal/Malice as the manifestation of the Chaos Gods' opposition to each other. The big four are fueled by the thoughts and emotions of mortals. Why wouldn't there be something else fueled by the thoughts and emotions of the Chaos Gods themselves?

At what point should I file a claim with paypal if an order from chinacast has taken too long?

How do things like Tyrant Guard work with multiple-damage weapons?

Eg. I hit and wound a Hive Tyrant with a Lascannon, and do 6 wounds.
Does the Tyrant Guard roll 6 dice, and for each 2+ they absorb a wound instead, or do they roll one die?

If it's the latter, do they take 6 mortal wounds on a 2+, or just one?

>>54912166
Cheap
Fast
Good
Pick 2 maybe. I have read of people waiting months part of why I nvever bothered with it. How long have you waited?

Is there any way to put grey Knights in the Mastodon transport from FW? I don't have the imperial armor index

>>54909272

Custodes, 12 models for 1000pts.

>>54912201
Just payed Z and I've heard he's pretty good regarding time, usually a month or two. Bought a test order to see the quality but I'm just curious about what I should do if it takes too long.

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Can I get some feedback on this list? Its super wonky but I wanted to do something like this

Black Templars 2kpts, this is two Batallions for +3CP each

HQ

Chaplain Dread [Lascannon, Power Fist] Warlord
Emperor's Champion

Lieutenant [Lighting Claw, Crusader Helm]
Lieutenant [Power Sword, Plasma Pistol]

Elites

Redemptor Dreadnought [Plasma Incinerator, Storm Bolters, Gatling cannon]
Venerable Dreadnought [Lascannon, Power Fist]

Troops

4x
Crusader Squad [5 Initiates, Heavy Bolter]

2x Rhino

3x
Crusader Squad [7 Initiates, Power Axe, Sword Brother with Thunder Hammer] Drop Pod

>>54911940
Yeah, that is pretty neat, I stand corrected. Can't imagine it would be a particularly difficult conversion, either, since I can easily buy a couple Ironstrider pilots and rig them up a saddle of some kind with greenstuff and filing. I'll see if the thermoplastic stuff I'm using as Space Whale armour plating works on that thing, because that would make doing layered plating like the Vulturax down the dinosaur a pretty simple task.

>>54910869
fucking mold lines...

>>54912231
seems underwhelming but I run big hordes of crusaders and a Distraction Termie Assault Squad

>>54912224
Nothing you can do really. Just wait.

>>54910878
>grants your entire army infiltrate
how did you think that was balanced when you wrote it?
I won't even get into he rest, fuck off.

>>54911928

Why does he have a fleshlight strapped to his face?

>>54911961
Is that the Pokemon known as Plagueachu?

>>54912166
a month with no tracking = tell him you're going to open a claim. If he doesn't reply with tracking, do it.

>>54912169
roll one dice. hive guard take 6 mortal wounds, which spill over and kill 2.

How come no one posts fun stories like Squad Broken anymore?

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>>54912461
"""fun"""

>>54912169
>>54912349
Wrong. You roll 6 dice.

>>54912292
He's ready for what the imperium is gonna do to him in Konor.

>>54912201
MI took a couple months for me. Really it's only worth filing a dispute if it's been like 4.

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>>54912257
>>54912231
Yo, BTfags, Gk/nidfag here. I wanna get in on that juicy, juicy crusading action. I've currently got an Emperors champion and 10 crusaders with chainswords and pistols, one dude has a flamer. I'm looking to expand my collection and would like to get your thoughts on this.

Was thinking in this direction: about 30 or so crusaders on foot buffed by helbrecht, a lieutenant, maybe grimaldus, throw in an emperors champion for fun or just use his model as the lieutenant.
A unit of terminators or two for deepstriking destractions, probably one assault and one standard since I'd like to paint/build both.
A dread or two, cause the're awesome.
Also, a squad of Centurions or sitting on backfield objectives (someones gotta do it) and sniping tanks. Also, because I unironically kinda like centurions, think they're pretty damn cute.
>he likes centurions
>in 40k/g/
>within 5 minutes, our dear anon had been slaughtered by the denizens of angry neckbeards that populate this wonderful thread, may he rest in peace.

....ehhrrm, anyway, FOR THE EMPEROR.

>>54911905
From personal experience this is what I suggest;

Drop the warp talons and take a second heldrake
Find a way to get more raptors
Pick either some raptors to have dual meltaguns in the unit or take combi meltas with the terminators because you lack the punch
The unit of 5 marines with lascannon might as well have regular bolters if they're going to mostly sit back. Consider maybe havocs instead to get in an additional weapon if you can fudge the numbers
Best contemptor loadout I've found is dual Fists with soul burners in each for spraying more mortal wounds than sorcs will

Just my thoughts I don't have the time to run the numbers. But I do play NL a few times a week and those are things that have helped me and I've run a very similar list to you're in the past as I learned what works and what doesn't.

If nothing else, put down the plasma koolaid and take some meltas somewhere in any army where you have no havocs or predators etc

>>54912613
I like Centurions too. Bulky and strong, what's not to like? And yet I believe an Agressor can do quite the same job for way less points.

Speaking of which, can a Primaris fit in a Centurion armour?

>>54910169
>I have no friends.
Theres a 40k TTS discord where you can find games. It's pretty fun, it was a bit thin on people during 7th but that was the case with real tables as well.

>>54912662
Appreciate the feedback. My initial thought was to toss in stuff I liked the thought of and see what ideas worked out for people who've actually played them.

How does my list look, gents?

Iron Warriors Battalion Detachment

Chaos Lord - Combi-plasma, power axe - 94
Daemon Prince - Daemonic axe, malefic talon, fleshmetal exoskeleton, diabolic strength - 180

Chaos Space Marines x10 - Plasma guns x2, combi-plasma - 171
Chaos Space Marines x5 - Plasma gun, combi-plasma - 93
Chaos Space Marines x5 - Plasma gun, combi-plasma - 93
Chaos Rhino - Combi-bolter x2 - 74
Chaos Rhino - Combi-bolter x2 - 74

Defiler - Defiler scourge, twin heavy bolter - 181
Obliterators x3 - 195
Obliterators x3 - 195

Iron Warriors Spearhead Detachment

Warpsmith - 76

Chaos Predator - Twin lascannon, two lascannons, combi-bolter - 192
Havocs x10 - Lascannons x4 - 230
Maulerfiend - Lasher tendrils - 152

2000/2000
7 command points

Everything that can have a mark has the mark of nurgle.

I know that someone said scanners/uploaders never get thanks, but I noticed the Grey Knight and Chaos codexes were in the Mega today, and wanted to say thanks to whoever got them there.

I don't even play that stuff, but I know when a codex I do want comes up, someone will handle it and I wanted to thank them now in case I forget.