Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1675: Embarassing Jumper Deaths Edition

What jumps offer a chance to become a dragon or pick up a dragon companion?

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Changelog
>grammar and spelling
>changed the name of the weapon rewarded by samurai supremacy
I think I'm done.

>>54873113
I got you.

>>52835108
Fire Emblem Awakening
Fire Emblem Fates
Fire Emblem Elibe
Fire Emblem Tellius
Dungeons and Dragons


>>52835108
Highschool DXD surprisingly enough.


>>52835108
Dragon Commander
Once Upon a Time
Either of the Spyro jumps.
Okami, if you become a brush god.
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon
Duel Monsters - The Shadow Realm
>>52835108
The Spyro jumps
Overlord has draganoid although I don't remember if it's full dragon or not
Duel Monsters

>>52835108
How to Train Your Dragon.

>>54873113
Slayers, Highschool DxD, World Seed, Log Horizon, Legend of Spyro, Dark Souls, Fairy Tail, Inheritance Cycle, GATE: Thus the JSDF fought here, Overlord. I'm sure there are many others.

>>54873174
>World Seed
Is that a racial option or a companion? I only remember seeing dragons wrecking earth before they left.

>>54873150
>>54873174
Oooh, nice.

>>54873120
Does the Boruto option put you through more than the movie, and go through the show/manga? Or is that open for a return(/connected) jump?

>>54873202
Not at the moment, but the jump is getting an update, which should include the option to become a dragon. Or anything else really. There's supposed to be a shitton of races in World Seed, and in the game you can change your race for basicaly a pittance.

>>54873259
Hmmm this is going to be difficult, I can tell. Fluffy tails or dragon...

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Reposting for the new thread.

Divinity: Original Sin Progress Report
>Ice Magic
>Tons of spelling, grammar, and formatting checks.
>Bunch of Perks fleshed out.
>Crafting, Blacksmithing, and Loremaster done. Which means all the Skills are finished.

>>54873113
>>54873150
>>54873174
That's quite the list. You missed Ogre Battle: The March of the Black Queen though.

So, what's are good arthropods/animals/things to pick for your Mosaic Organ Operation in Terra Formars?
I was thinking Primal Zerg and Tardigrade with the Red Surgery.

>>54873248
It puts you through the show/manga.
But it's open for a jump too. If someone makes a jump based on any of the 0 cp drawbacks, I'll remove them.

>>54873288
Just put off jumping it until Rose (read: Valeria) finishes updating it.

>>54873290
Hmm. I may actually make a Boruto Jump. (With different options. I don't want to make a clone)

BUT. If someone else wants it more, just ask and I'll help on that instead!

Can anyone add to this list of Evolutionary powers? Please and thank you.
Evolutionary Function - Ben 10
Ouroboros: Eternal Evolution - Double Cross (this one primarily works on one's Renegade Powers, but seeing as

Renegade's born from a viral infection it should be viable to get it to work on other things).
Primal Zerg - Starcraft: Zerg
Evolution Energy and flat-out all the perks and items - EVO: Search for Eden
Adaptive Evolution - X-Men Movies
Karma Chameleon - GUNNM / Battle Angel Alita
An Ogre Does Not Stop + Moulded by Darkness - Warhams Fanta-Sea: Ogre Kingdoms
Mutation - Mutagenesis - Generic Post-Apocalypse
Gourmet Cells - Toriko
Hypnos Gene - Resident Evil
Chthonic Baara of the Ur-beast - Exalted: Lunars

>>54873329
>Resident Evil

Invalid jump.

>>54873202
>>54873259
This is one of the hard parts, Im temptwd to gut the entire affinitu and race options of the jump and just have an option to be whatever the hell you want, within reason. Even those who became dragons started out car sized.

>>54873367
Honestly, World Seed is such a high power setting, it'd probably be good as an end Jump.

>>54873367
That's probably for the best. Regardless of which race you pick, after you farm a bit of gold in the game, you can change your race anyway, so it really don't matter all that much.

>>54873390
Fuck off.

>>54873358
Why?

>>54873390
>Honestly, World Seed is such a high power setting, it'd probably be good as an end Jump.
Are you for real? Did you somehow not realize all the new jumps we got in the past few months? From what I heard about Saint Seya, a single mid-level character there could shit on basically anyone in World Seed.

>>54873413
I'm just saying there's potential for an option. That's all.

>>54873437
No there isn't. Stop trying to limit jumps with "end jump" bullshit.

>>54873390
Honestly I hate end jumls cause I feel they are against the purpose of the chain however it would solve the god problem, if it was agreeable I would allow full godmode and complete full universe grove for anyone who could complete the end jump mode.

Would make things much easier for me.

>>54873391
True enough.

>>54873358
Invalid comment.

>>54873450
NOTE I mean jump with optional end mode.

>>54873437
That would be a pretty fucking stupid option then. Excepting gods, characters in World Seed are pretty weak, if you compare them to the jumpchain at large. Even the MC, after getting his grove to universal level and hitting the level cap, was basically only at the planetbuster level. Which is laughably weak. So no, making World Seed an endjump, or even putting in an endjump option, would be moronic.

>>54873450
Really, see my comment above. What would you even make the endjump about? From what we've seen, even the damn gods aren't all that strong. There is literally nothing in the entire series (besides what the first god did, but that got an entire sentence of explanation) that comes even remotely close to the level an endjump should be.

>>54873490
>Really, see my comment above

Yeah and that is fine and I understand that. I need to finish reading now that it is supposedly done to see if I can bring others up to level to match druid because from the author somehow all the classes could eventually hit the same level.

I have no problem with the power level other than out of nowhere bam a universe in your pocket, it just seems like way too much even to me. I dont want to make it and end jump.

The possible optional end jump was just a lock off on galactic sized universe groves which would solve a lot of problems, as would just saying universe grove is the after chain bonus, or just ignoring it all together (which im not in favor of honestly). I want to make the shitshow balanced.

>>54873490
>characters in World Seed are pretty weak, if you compare them to the jumpchain at large.
Jumps are balanced internally, not among each other.
And the universe-grove and similar stuff is such a cheap mary sue thing that i really wouldn't mind it being locked behind a post-chain/post-spark wall. Doesn't even need an endjump scenario.
That'd also deal with the "one true build" problem we have right now, because the story doesn't actually give us any in-depth information for any classes beside druid.

World Seed kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth as it is when i jump it because it's just so fucking cheap.
It's kinda SB levels of powerwanking, only with author-approval.

>>54873278
You're not making Loremaster Adept purchasable?

Let's make a list of jumpmakers who, quite rightly, need to be evicted.

>>54873582
You. Oh, wait. You don't qualify.

>>54873560
>Saint Seiya
>Aristoteles
>all the other bullshit that is available in the 900+ jumps we have
But somehow World Seed is too much, eh? You can't even do jackshit with that universe in your grove. It can be used for resources, increased mana & mana regen, and stealing or copying the ability of the races in your grove. That's it. Wow, that really looks far too powerful to be offered in the Jumpchain. Not.

>>54873582
Bancho, for obvious reasons.
I would say you, but you're not even worth one Bancho.

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>>54873565
Honestly? Loremaster in the game is just used for identifying magical items. I tried just sticking it in as a Talent, but then the Wizard's Discounts went all wonky. So it went back to being a Skill.

I thought about inventing an Adept level that had to do with creating magi-tech contraption like Arhu, but that didn't make much sense and outside out catapults throwing bottles of magic and some insane magi-tech golem he made, there wasn't a lot to base it on. Not unless I allowed access and used examples that haven't existed for 9000 years.

So I have Novice Loremaster a little extra pizzazz, bumped up the price a bit, and left it at that.

>>54873582
Hmm, let me think.
Probably.. that guy!
That guy definitely needs kicked to the curb.

>>54873624
The harshest thing ever said to a shitposter. Bravo, anon, bravo.

>>54873555
I asked the author in the comments, and all classes really are balanced. Mages got their spells, rogues their stealth shit, and warriors can burn their soul for power. The only reason John got so bullshit so fast was because he had the ring + staff combo that allowed him to gain affinities at a ridiculous rate. As for the universal grove, what exactly is too strong about it being offered? We have the ability to destroy universes, and we already have a whole bunch of pocket dimensions, some of which can even get bigger than normal universes (looking at you, Infernals). So what's so powerful about the Grove that makes it so OP that it needs to be barred behind Post-Spark?

>>54873582
All of them.

>>54873595
>>54873624
>>54873651
>implying we need any other jumpmakers besides Valeria and her friends.

>>54873616
See the problem I am having is that I need to both update it to remain true to the source material as well as fixing stuff, so far my current idea for it and going over things mentioned in the thread, is:

To dump grove as a capstone rename it minigrove or demigrove and cut the price in half, give druids one free.

Give druids another capstone while raising the entrance price for druid (thinking around to 300 cp for the background) or give fucking everyone a demigrove since literally everyone including the robot has one after a certain point.

And possibly make a note that after your chain you can have a grove as big as you want plus all the godhood that comes with it.

Even that is all just rough ideas though.

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>54873582
Springboard! Let me ask you guys what song discribes an arc in your chain.

This is mine from a while back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-oFveqvq5E

Also generally what kind of music do you expect your The Art (Musician Jump) manifest as?

>>54873647
Fair enough

>>54873555
>>54873653
Here's the link, just look at the comments: https://royalroadl.com/fiction/4242/world-seed/chapter/152129/chapter-207-the-eye-of-time
To balance it all, just don't offer the ring or the staff in the jump. That's it. Sure, Jumpers with learning & training boosters would be able the break the balance easily, but every jump should be written as if it's a Jumper's first jump anyway.

>>54873707
Please just look at that post >>54873653 and actually write out why you think that the universal grove is too much. And yeah, might as well lock godhood behind the Jump/Sparkwall. We never really saw what gods can do anyway, so their powerlevel isn't really defined.

>>54873707
Just give the jump up to someone else and let them fix it.

>>54873653
>As for the universal grove, what exactly is too strong about it being offered? We have the ability to destroy universes, and we already have a whole bunch of pocket dimensions, some of which can even get bigger than normal universes (looking at you, Infernals). So what's so powerful about the Grove that makes it so OP that it needs to be barred behind Post-Spark?


Honestly? The limitless storage space as well as the ability to make resources adnaseum nonstop. I understand that the other stuff is supposedly equal but we have no idea how really.

And if I give universe sized stuff like that I may as well just make druid cost 800 cp and say good luck.

Sorry if Im coming off as rude or anything but this jump just has become a nightmare.

Good news is Im almost done updating world of cultivation and after that I can really dive in to making this steaming pile of a setting work.

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>>54873278

>>54873753
Funny, because I have offered many many times and nobody has taken me up on it.

>>54873616
You can obviously read, so how did you miss that inter-jump balance isn't a thing?
I'm not concerned about the power level.
As you mentioned, there are abilities that are just as strong or stronger in other jumps.

What bothers me about it is that it doesn't fit the general powerlevel of the world at all.
It just FEELS cheap.
It's like one of those horrible Gary Stu Naruto fanfics, only the author did it to his story himself for whatever reason.

It also makes balancing the jump impossible unless you want the jump-author to invent capstones for the other classes that are just as bullshit, because the source-author himself doesn't give us anything to work with.

>>54873582
Me, because I never deliver!

>>54873743
Hmm, that does help. Thank you. Will have to replace them with something else then.

>>54873682
jumpmakers come and go, but shitposters are eternal. (seriously that guy who hates wakfu is still around)

>>54873763
>limitless storage space
>the ability to make resources adnaseum nonstop
Sorry, but are you for real? There are probably hundreds of ways to do that shit, most of them to do with "lol magic".

>>54873786
Why would you even make the Grove a capstone, or a perk at all? That shit can be acquired in-jump easily. Just mention that it exists, that druids can get it, and that even other classes have ways of getting their own grove (as seen with Cecille). Bam, balanced. That's easy.

>>54873763
>world of cultivation
Can...can you show me what is behind curtain number 1?

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>>54873582

No need to be roundabout with this. I'm going out if that's what you want

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>>54873790
I believe in you, you can do it!

>>54873843
>Sorry, but are you for real? There are probably hundreds of ways to do that shit, most of them to do with "lol magic".

Probably right, actually I know you are right however in the balance of the setting it throws everything right out the window. Like honestly its like the old dnd problem of barbarians vs wizards except barbarian warriors never move beyond rusty iron sword and wizards become overgods. It is not balanced and I want to make the jump internally balanced.

>>54873782
Just abandon the claim and move on. We've had jumpmakers leave and others come in to replace them. Your shit'll be picked up eventually.

>>54873870
The thread only updated after I clicked post so this is for you too.>>54873873

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>>54873778
... You know what, sure. Specifically because you tracked down the picture and asked so nicely. I needed a good 600 CP Item for Drop-Ins anyways.

Arhu SparkMaster 5000, with controller, for all you insane magi-tech mecha fans.

Now all someone has to do is make a Real Steel Jump and have an Import Robot Boxer option.

>>54873150
You forgot Fire Emblem Archanea (The manakete option) but I'm happy someone mentioned my jumps.
>>54873582
Me because I did The Emoji Movie Jump.
>>54873717
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG_6S2Qzn7s
This was what I had in mind when I did with one specific arc in my old chain.

>>54873930
>You forgot Fire Emblem Archanea (The manakete option) but I'm happy someone mentioned my jumps.
Yeah sorry about that, it is an old list I copy and pasted back when I asked a similar question.

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>>54873930
>implying you can have the peace of exile, self-imposed or otherwise now

>>54873930
No. That pretty much cements you as our Wakfu replacement. Emoji Movie's about on par with Food Fight and Johnny Test in terms of "good fucking god who actually wanted this why."

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>>54873882
Oh, Timmy. You sad little boy. Is this really all you have to live for?

>>54873881
Each class has their own speciality. As we saw with John, most of the story he couldn't really fight well at all. Even his GF who focused on beasts would have apparently been outclassed by a guy who took a relevant class and tamed beasts. The only reason that John got so BS was his item combo. If that advantage of his went away, he'd have his affinities and the advantages granted by his gove, all features of his class. Warriors have their soul burning shit, which would apparently give them an enourmous boost and allow them to beat druid ass. And other classes have their own gimmicks, such as mages with their basically conceptual freeform spells, and Rogues with stealth & assassin bullshit. Really, it sounds balanced enough to me. Certainly better than D&D with their wizard vs warrior problem, and even then did the D&D jumps we have not charge more to be a wizard just because warrior classes are shit.

Also, a perk idea you could include: the ability to regenerate resources, up to a planetwide scale. Might be a good druid capstone if you don't have one already, and it would fit their themes.

>>54873653
>looking at you, Infernals
Oh, sure. No limit on size. Just contast effort to grow it at a paltry speed that'd take centuries or millenia to reach even a size equal to the surface of Earth, let alone actually making a planet or more.

>>54873904
If I thought you were a dude and I wasn't taken, I'd husbando you. Thanks, Yorokonde

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>>54873974

>>54873996
I know jackshit about Infernals, but some anon said that you could just, like, instantly expand it by creating the relevant charms after you became a Devil Tiger. Considering the shit exalted get up to, that didn't sound too farfetched to me.

Do you think I'd you became an Ashaman in Wheel of Time and had Gift of the Thousand Master, you'd be comparable in power to Rand?

>>54873850
Sure here is the current draft with some updates already plugged in, I still have a bunch of perks not added in and items too because I want the wording to be right before I drop it.

https://pastebin.com/gf5fX7fF

>>54873882
As I have said in the past I say it again, should anyone ever think they can do it better I wish yhem the best of luck and say have at it.

>>54874017
Timmy is learning. I never would have thought it possible...

>>54873962
>who actually wanted this

Why, thread itself.

>>54873582
Me, please. I've really got more important things I should be doing.

>>54874017
So you are saying that you like cock?
What's that got to do with jumpchain?

>>54874017
WTF, I want to push my servant benis into some noble woman's face now

>>54873904
What other 600cp items are you putting in?

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>>54874004
>I'd husbando you

Pic related.

>>54874017

Weird to see you at this hours, shitposter-kun.

>>54873120
What happens if I take beast inside and then warring clans. Since jinchuriki didn't exist then?

Or if I fail the founding fathers/enduring whirlpool scenario?

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>>54874035
>https://pastebin.com/gf5fX7fF
Thanks.

>>54874018
Nope. 4 hours of meditation and a bunch of motes and mental effort for each piece you want to create.

It's not instant by any means and it's not free either.

>>54874032
From what I remember from the jumpmaker, when asked how the Thousand Master perk would work in Harry Potter he said it would make you equal to Dumbledore. Based on that interpretation I guess it would make you a channeller in Rand's league in terms of power. He isn't actually unique in that regard anway.
Of course, power is just one thing, you need to know the weaves and have combat experience as well as a sa'angrael or two if you want to equal Rand mid-to-late series.

>>54874075
Ooo! He answered this earlier! Fanwank it!

And you don't get the rewards?

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>>54874071
>and I wasn't taken
Yorokonde is a distant runner up to you, Darling~

>>54873582
What's the current opinion on BLADE at the moment?

>>54874118
I'm thinking Gamer might could use an update.

>>54874118
Nice try Ebon Dragon.

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>>54874109

I love ya too <3 honey~~

>>54874118

He's a pretty cool guy.

>>54874118
Pretty good, I liked Xenoblade

Has anyone picked up Campione yet since it was dropped?

Honestly it is amazing we have any makers left all things considered. I mean some people are nice enough but making jumps and working with jumpers just seems like the most stressful activity ever.

>>54873120
What do you think Wolf Sage Mode would be like? I Googled it thinking surely there'd be some deviantart of the concept out there but couldn't find much.

>>54874184
Nope. Feel free to pick it up, I'll be looking forward to it.

>>54874185
I find it rewarding. It's just some jumpmakers get the bad luck to attract shitposters. It's them that can make things stressful, but with the right attitude and keeping an emotional distance even that's manageable.

>>54874118
He's a needy faggot that typifies SB's crackhead like craving for internet fame.

>>54874185
Oh, sweet Summer child. Summer is almost over and shitposters can't survive the Winters. Their children will succeed them upon hatching next June/July

>>54874202
>It's just some jumpmakers get the bad luck to attract shitposters.
And some jumpmakers make bad decisions and mine them for drama for daaaaaaaaays and then try to act like they're the aggrieved party.

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>>54873717
>Music for the current arc, taking Ragnarok Online into account
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5-AQTPFJSg

>Meanwhile, in Katia's mind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8uHkTuHU0Y

>>54874004
Despite the rumors and my love of Lemon Drops, I am actually a man. Or a golden retriever. One of the two.

>>54874065
Adventurers I haven't figured out one for either yet.

Sourcerers are getting a Warehouse add-on that is a natural Tenebrium mine, but can grow other metals and crystals if you seed it.

Source Hunters are probably getting a smaller version of the Hub at the End of Time.

>>54874185
Once you tune out the people who are complaining just to complain and the ones howling because they're bored, all of the core members are nice people and pretty fun to talk to.

>>54874244
Suuure, that's something that happens. ~wink wink~ Its definitely that and not the other thing all the time. ~nudge nudge~ Absolutely definitely not always shitposters.

>>54874202
>emotional distance

The most important thing to have on this site.

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Okay, here's the next version of Haroun and the Sea of Stories.

Since someone in the last thread wanted me to buff up the Drop-In capstone a bit, I added a few more features to it. Mostly I had it give buffs to other Drop-In perks taken, but I can try a different approach if people don't like it.

And I put a little statement at the bottom of the notes that if you're still confused about the power range/limits of the Wishwater, just refer to the Disney Princesses Genie and treat it the same way; hopefully that will finally settle that whole mess and we can move on.

>>54874244
We're aware Red's a drama queen.

>>54874071
>Weird to see you at this hours, shitposter-kun.
Waiting on someone so I can do a thing. Normally I'd be asleep. Hello.

>>54874287
You do things other than shitpost?

>>54874267
Sometimes it is just shitposters, that's obvious. But then you've got asshole snowflakes like >>54874272. I didn't say that all drama was creator generated, but there definitely are instances where that is the case.

>>54874274
Oh fuck off already

>>54874287
>Waiting on someone so I can do a thing. Normally I'd be asleep. Hello.

Fuck it, that actually made me laugh. I can't get annoyed at you for the next few threads

>>54874274
Tim... I mean, random anon. Why not try out discord? Why not go over there and maybe stay there... forever?

>>54874196
Wolf eyes and different color of eye shadow, compared to the Toad Sage Mode? Might look a bit feral if you only have Jiraiya levels of control over it.

>>54874245
>pic
Who is that?

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>>54874185
I've started to figure that ignoring shitposters riles them up more than any statement I could say acknowledging them, if you want me to be frank and honest about my pettiness.

I build stuff so I can make people happy, and their happiness is what matters.

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>>54874274

Fuck off.

>>54874287

Ah, dating? Wish ya luck, anon.Use protection

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So here we go! How does it look I think it might be Jumpable at this point.

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>>54874328
>I build stuff so I can make people happy, and their happiness is what matters.
Yeah, that's the sort of passion that motivates me for making jumps as well.

>>54874307
I didn't want all this drama to happen. I got stuck on certain points because I disagreed with people, but I was hoping the whole time that we could find a reasonable compromise and everyone could be happy. I try my best to be polite to everyone in my posts here, and I am sorry if I offended anyone.

Mostly, my hope is that we can move on to more productive discussion of other points. I have tried to make adjustments to the item so that it satisfies people, and I am optimistic that we can leave behind the earlier quarrel.

>>54874307
>asshole snowflakes
I recognise you. I understand you wanted him to make a change to his jump that you felt was important and he didn't do as you'd wish.
I can understand the frustration, that's only human, but him not agreeing with you and sticking to his guns with his own jump doesn't make him into an asshole. Whether or not he was objectively right or wrong for doing so. And, sad to say, the drama was more due to your insistence than his recalcitrance.
I wouldn't say that you were a shitposter because you had a legit difference of opinion but I wouldn't accuse him of being in the wrong either in terms of having a discussion about the jump.
And speaking generally, I don't see your comment as being something I've seen and can confirm as being true broadly. In my experience its always shitposters outside of some outliers, which I suppose is just me agreeing with you in general in a roundabout fashion.

>>54874328
Good advice.

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>>54874320
Honestly? I have no idea. Some fox girl hopped up on caffeine with a major dislike of being held like that from the looks of it. The picture just amused me because it made me think of a game where Link is handed a berserk fox girl instead of a sword and goes off to save the kingdom and defeat Ganon anyways.

>>54874328
>I build stuff so I can make people happy, and their happiness is what matter.
Once again Moths prove themselves superior to all other beings in the universe.

>>54874456
>Link is handed a berserk fox girl
OTP confirmed?
Zelda is gonna be disappointed.

>>54874456
You've lied to us! What is this?
http://divinity.wikia.com/wiki/Death_Knight_Bane

>>54874500
Oh look

more jumps being rendered non-canon because of dumb bullshit.

>>54874456
>>54874320
The sauce on the artist is Duckdraw, in case no one knew.

>>54874427
Some people just aren't prepared to make reasonable compromise. The see something as 'wrong' and its like cleaning a stain, they want it all gone not just in part. But that is completely seperate from whether they are right or not.
While well-intentioned, seeking to rid the jump of a 'mistake' it doesn't mean that there is a mistake only that they percieve one and frankly that's subjective as all heck.
You are never going to satisfy everyone and you have made a reasonable effort to try and do so. You've addressed the concern as far as reasonable and asking anymore is just illfounded myopia. Sadly, it's pretty easy to get tunnel vision and to attribute more importance than what is truly the case to things here.
As far as i'm concerned you and the rest of us should be able to move on and enjoy the nice jkump you've made. The question is whether the anon who is so passionate about this can let go.

>>54874382
Which ronin is the strongest?

>>54874472
Link belongs to fish girls. He's Mipha's.

>>54874527
Thanks. You make a good point overall in your post. I'll try not to get too worked up over things like this in the future. However much I try, I can't please everyone, but I can still do my best.

So anyway, how do the changes I've made to Where the Mountains Meet the Sea and P2C2E look?

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>>54874472
Yeah, probably, but some versions of Zelda kind of deserve it. Link leading around a berserk fox girl sounds like one hell of a fun game though.

>>54874500
What the heck are you talking about? That is the spell used to represent the Source Hunters finding the secret code-phrase used to turn off the invulnerability of The Conduit's Death Knights. Do you have an actual question or are you just trying to fund the antics of dumb shits like the poster below you?

>>54874520
Oh, good to know. Thanks.

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Anyone want an Omamori Himari jump?

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>>54874585
Technically all Ronin Warriors are of equal level but only Ryo of Wildfire could manage to bring forth the Wildfire armor, when the group infuses all of their power into him, and the Armor of Inferno is also his to work with.

>>54874632
It's always the fire guy, bleh.

Is the anon who made the DC Occult jump still here?

Is there anything similar to Wishcraft? Like, magic that works at will and just takes a lot of raw power to make stuff happen?

>>54874623
It was meant to be mock/joking anger, I figured that much... sorry for being socially inept

>>54874654
Projection from Charmed?

>>54874628
what is it

>>54874678
I'll just go and hang myself or something

>>54874628
>>54874685
Monstergirl harem ecchi manga.

>>54874632
>all Ronin Warriors are of equal level
I had thought Kongo was physically the most powerful?

>>54874654
There's a chi version in Majiko

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>>54874628
>Omamori Himari
I would not say no to cute cat spirits of protection.

>>54874642
Well this was during the era of anime when that trope was becoming a thing so yeah. Granted it has a more Captain Planet/Power Rangers feel to it "Our Powers Combined" kinda thing.

>>54874711
Literally because Kongo is stronger in his base form that the others.

>>54874725
No there isn't.

>>54874740
...Yes, there is. What the fuck are you on about?

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>>54874678
>>54874705
Oh, geeze, I'm sorry man. I only saw those two posts back to back so I though yours was made specifically to feed the other.

Have a Mawile who really wants to be your friend as an apology.

>>54874628
>What is?
>Cat-girl samurai
Sold. Go for it man.

>>54874328
>I build stuff so I can make people happy, and their happiness is what matters.
This.

>>54874763
Then why would you say that Drain No doesn't work on the Deadlight? /s

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>>54874628

YYYYYEEEEEESSSSSS

PLEASE DO IT!!!

>>54874628
Yes please.

>>54874734
So... the fire guy isn't the strongest, just has the highest potential, followed by the archer dude.

>>54874791
Because you are a horrible person and deserve to suffer? Because, as you know full well, a jumpmaker can't interfere with the mechanics of how other jumpmakers make their jumps.
It'd be like someone making a jump with a perk of 'Gauntlets give you 1000CP like normal jumps'. No one would want that, except you as you'd love the storm of shit it would provoke you infantile manchild.

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>>54874811
From re-watching the series and movies that's the feeling I got, yeah.

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>>54874754
Thank you, I'd hate to earn the ire of my only friends. Lord knows I spend far too much time looking at pic related

>>54874811
When people talk about someone being 'strong' they don't usually mean physical strength.

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>>54874791
no bully

>>54874819
You know what /s means right?

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>>54874842

>>54874860
Nope. What does it mean?

>>54874184
If you plan on doing it, do you want the WIP blade had?

>>54874870
It means he's being sarcastic.

>>54874865
Thanks!

>>54874891
Oh... piffle. Welp, live and learn.
Thanks for filling me in.

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>>54874832
Everyone has bad days Anon, but if you're having thoughts that dark on a regular basis you should find someone to talk to. A professional if you can. If you can't do that, call 18002738255 and talk to somebody about those kinds of thoughts. You can also text the word CONNECT to 741741 if you feel more comfortable typing than talking.

Please don't do anything drastic. Talk or text with someone if you do nothing else.

anyone claimed Tetsuwan Birdy for a jump?

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>>54874980
No, but please do

Jumpers, how do you reconcile your desire to muck about and enjoy a setting...

When you honestly could have prevented Bad Things (tm) from happening that the plot requires?

As an example: On one hand, in RWBY I want to muck about and have Hunter-College shenanigans. On the other, I objectively could make a self replicating and maintaining kill-sat network to deal with the Grimm, and I have a wealth of options to not just kill, but triple-ultra-perma-kill, Salem (in case she's like the Ozpinhead).

There are many other situations where a Jumper has the full capability to fully resolve a plot, or even many setting conceits, and while you might not want to do a full stations of canon crawl, you're still interested in not flexing the full might of your powers.

I know the simplest option is "Then don't use your full might." but there's a feeling of complicity with evil by inaction to directly prevent it, especially when said action is trivial to you.

Do Jumps wear and weaken under the effects of broad, sweeping Jumper power?
Do Jumpers need to synchronize with a setting to flex their full might?
Are you Star Trek Jumper and regard it as a greater sin to interfere in vulgar manner?
Is the idea of 'evil by inaction' trite and/or simply not an idea you endorse?

tl;dr Jumpers, how do you justify not solving plots ASAP, in character?

>>54875061
I generally only act when it's something unnecessary. I don't stop necessary character growth, but often times a character dies or is crippled in a way that wasn't really beneficial to the protagonists in any sense.

>>54875010
in that case, i would like to tentatively claim it :)

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>>54875061
Get your companions to do shit for you.

It's what I do.

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>>54875122
Yay! Go anon,go!

>>54875061
>Jumpers, how do you reconcile your desire to muck about and enjoy a setting... When you honestly could have prevented Bad Things (tm) from happening that the plot requires?

I don't, I suck it up and prevent the bad things.


>Do Jumps wear and weaken under the effects of broad, sweeping Jumper power?

nope , It's as stable as any other reality. I always Start from the presupposition that everything and everyone that is happening around me is as real as anything else, and according to my jumper's phenomenology This is in fact so.

>Do Jumpers need to synchronize with a setting to flex their full might?

nope, that's silly.


>Are you Star Trek Jumper and regard it as a greater sin to interfere in vulgar manner?

Yeah, that's one of the things I hate most about the Federation, they get so Much stuff right and then they do that.

>Is the idea of 'evil by inaction' trite and/or simply not an idea you endorse?

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

"with great power comes great responsibility"-Benjamin Parker

"power and responsibility are directly Proportionate"- Me.

So very much the opposite.

>>54875061
I solve plots all the time. I make the world a much safer, perhaps more boring place, but it's a price I'm willing to pay. On the other hand the technology and magic I bring open new possibilities for adventures, drama, or just entertainment. A lot of my Jumper's character is about being reasonable and dependable at the expense of flashier antics.

It's the main reason why I do not have a Benefactor. I find the idea of the Multiverse being so full of conflict and suffering for the sake of an entity's entertainment to be a premise that is both horrific and more than a little bit stupid.

>>54875061
I usually only prevent people dying. And then only most of them.
The old saying about teaching a man to fish applies here.

After all i'm going to be gone after 10 years, and the vast majority of settings i have no intentions to return to, at least in the first few centuries after sparking.
And that's assuming i spark at all and not fuck up somewhere and get sent home or decide to stay somewhere.

Of course there are exceptions. Depends on the setting and who the actors are.
Stuff like Harry Potter (who'd most likely jump at the offer not to have any "heroics" during his school time) i just resolve the plot quietly from the shadows.
Or anything where children have to fight for their lives, generally.

Railroad Plot (Dungeon Siege 2) also helps and is something i pick up early for that very reason (among others) - you can remove the worst offenders without screwing the plot up unless you want to do that, so there are no deaths that the plot requires with that one perk.
Combine that with Universal Canon (Lone Wolf) so you always know what's going on and you're good.

>>54875061
I take care of the really bad shit, and then move on to bigger things in the setting.

If the setting still needs its heroes afterwards, my rivalry or mentorship is usually much more effective and growth-inducing than anything the world can cook up.

Hey CrackerJack, if your there, would you consider letting people become an avatar of The Metal in DC Occult?

>>54875061
I'm too mercenary to do anything without significant incentives

>>54875061
I prefer to provide the training, ability and/or equipment for the natives to deal with the problems themselves. If I do it myself, there's a chance they'll become complacent and dependent on someone else solving things.

I do still deal with some things myself from behind the scenes, sometimes to force the threat into the light (the natives may not be aware of the actual threat,) sometimes because of risks of collateral damage (Riley in Worm would end up killed along with the others for example,) and sometimes simply because the threat pissed me off.

>>54875190
Why would it be created for them? The suffering and chaos was always there, the Benefactor simply finds it amusing.

>>54875061
I'm a goddess. I don't resolve plots. I give the natives who pray to me the means to resolve the plots themselves.

To that end i have a bunch of perks to spread knowledge of me and actually answer prayers (Generic Creepypasta and Innistrad set you up with the basics, that's really all you need).
Combine that with a multitasking perk like Omnidextrous from Overlord and i can do my own thing while the plot is taken care of by others.
In exchange i get both mana (Master of Magic) and essence (Exalted Sidereals) from their worship, so it's not like it costs me anything.

It also helps that i'm generally lazy and enjoy slice of life and learning far more than combat of any sort.
So i wouldn't be inclined to preserve plots like those anyway, i'm just usually too lazy to resolve them myself.

So in the Forgotten Realms jump can I purchase more than 20 levels in a class or no? Does that require an Epic Destiny? The Drizzt drawback plus the free class can you can get to 21. Just got me thinking. Not that I would.

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https://pastebin.com/aWdXuyYf

In which the Team screws up again and Splash doesn't realize exactly what he can do yet.

Hey all. I'm surprised that there's no youjo senki jump yet. Or is that because Tanya basically is a jumper and Being X is an evil jump-chan?

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>>54875061
I'm under no moral imperative to improve the world or save people that I'm not personally responsible for endangering. Unless something is the result of my actions then it's not my duty to fix it. Therefore I don't worry about preventing bad shit from happening unless I have personal responsibility concerning it. Sure, I could kill all of the Grimm in the world. But the Grimm aren't my problem. That's not to say that I'd sit back and let people get killed by Grimm, I'll 100% destroy anything that threatens innocent people around me. But it's not my moral responsibility to save the world. Nor, in my opinion, should I do so. It cheapens the triumphs of everyone who has come before and after me for an overwhelmingly powerful OOC entity to sweep in and solve everything. Sometimes people have to fight their own battles even if some of them die in the process. Instead of unleashing my full power and saving the entire world I instead wield my power to minimize unnecessary cruelty and suffering while allowing others to fight their own battles. It takes something seriously bad to force my hand and motivate me to intervene personally. Otherwise I just allow people to determine their own destiny and attempt to mitigate unnecessary suffering.

>>54875440
It didn't get much talk here because every time someone tried, one guy got triggered about hating her and thinking she was ugly and ranted the rest of the thread about it.

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>>54875061
>Jumpers, how do you reconcile your desire to muck about and enjoy a setting when you honestly could have prevented Bad Things (tm) from happening that the plot requires?

You've got to decide whether you think your enjoyment is more important than the collective good of the setting to you. Or you can just go along with the plot for a bit while diverting things so that everyone makes it out okay.

What it usually comes down to is whether you think in order to be good you have to save everyone you reasonably can and then whether it's worth being good in the first place. For me the answers are yes and no and screwing around and pretending to be various different people takes precedence over decency more often than not. Even then you can still help people occasionally and retain the largely flimsy Tom Bombadil defense (i.e. you don't give enough of a general fuck to be relied upon).

>>54875468
I thought it was because there wasn't enough to make a jump out of yet?

>>54875477
Nah there's plenty.

>>54875452
>pic
Artist?

>>54875468
That's just sad. Frankly i'm planning some WW1/WW2 jumps in my chain's future and thought it would be perfect.

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>>54875468
I mean, I can understand thinking that anime Tanya is ugly, because she fucking is (seriously, how did the studio fuck her design up that hard?), but manga/light nove Tanya is extremely cute.

>>54875420
You can purchase 50 levels in a class if you want.

I kind of want to be Cleric 50 and bully my god into giving me spells.

>>54875061
Beyond my first jump I'm not going to care. I lose interest in the span of hours to days I will not care for anything external in 10 years that I do now. Unless a threat to me I won't get into it. I want power and peace on my terms.
>Lawful _Evil.png

>>54875492
Learn to use the reverse image search tool.

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I got a question for jumpmakers! What were your favorite jumps to make, or the ones you felt most proud of once it was finished? Conversely, which one made you tear your hair out in frustration?

First one for me is a tie between Kamen Rider Ryuki and DBZ. I loved both canons to pieces and did my best with the two of them, though I had help with the latter.

Second one is DxD because I discovered a bit too late that not only is internal consistency not really a thing, but because the English translations of the novels were painful to read and flip through.

>>54875452
Man I want a Grimm jump but I got way to much shit to do already.

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>>54875510

>>54875523
It doesn't work most of the time, learn to not be a tool.

>>54874102
Pretty sure that means I can start off free, which is neat. That's half the scenario right there.

Titanic Jump When ?

>>54875568
Never let go, Jack.

>>54875535
In answer to both those questions: the one i'm making right now, since it's my first one xD

>>54875492
>>54875562
Artist is alcd.

>>54875510
They did it on purpose iirc. Nonsense shit.

>>54875562
It worked just fine for me, for that image.
Why don't you try things before asking for help?

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>>54875546
2/10. If you can't emulate the original artist's style, then don't even try.

>>54875535
Crash Bandicoot, because it's almost done and it looks nice

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>>54875262
>an avatar of The Metal
Brütal.

What's that?

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>>54875598
>not appreciating alternative art styles

>>54875579
I found a WIP of it. Can it be jumped?

>>54875568
How much for the Iceberg origin?

>>54875061
I'll save the world if I'm the only one with any hope of doing it. If Fate decrees that Evil will win, only then must the Deus Ex Machina intervene.

And even then, it's not about doing what's right. It's about doing what I can live with having done. If I'm going to live forever, why let myself walk away with any regrets?

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>>54875598
>>54875546
>>54875510
Nazi Loli Germany Jump when? Update on how it's going?

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>>54875648
Literal trash. I'm going to sleep now, so when I wake up, I better find out that I changed your opinion over the internet.

>>54875535

I had the most fun working on Classic Sonic, but in hindsight I'm most proud of Shadow Realm considering it's meager start. It turned out to be a ridiculously fun thing to work with, due to the source material doing my favorite thing and allowing me to fill in the blanks myself for much of it..

I destroyed my sleep schedule doing Cyber Knights and Mucha Lucha was so vapid in hindsight I could barely muster anything for it, for sure.

>>54875420
>So in the Forgotten Realms jump can I purchase more than 20 levels in a class or no?
Yes, epic levels are a thing. There's no level cap.

>Does that require an Epic Destiny?
No. Epic Destinies are a 4e thing, while the jump is 3.5.

Well, mostly. There's an article with backwards-compability somewhere, which lets you optionally pick from a few Epic Destinies if you sacrifice your feats, though they don't seem that worth it.

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>>54875598
You can't stop moefication. It's like gravity.

>>54875661
its magic ww1 not mww2 right? so it would be... kaiser loli?

>>54875592
>for that image.
Yes for that image it worked, considering it always brings up wrong images I decided to stop bothering with it. I decided to ask like a normal person, and yet you try to start something which you could have easily ignored.

>>54875590
Thanks.

>>54875661
Can't want to do some deicide.

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>>54875688
I hope you have a nice sleep.

>>54875694
What could a level 50 sorcerer even do?

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Jumpers! any suggestions for perks for a student origin in a jump filled with strong aliens?

>>54875747
Womb Size+

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>>54875703
Ah this is a truth that you've typed yes it would be.

>>54875725
Indeed!

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>>54875738
History is much like an endless waltz. The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever.

>>54875747
Base it off the student you're thinking of?

>>54875704
You're welcome.

I'll give you a tip on searching images; don't use Google for stuff like that. Use iqdb. It searches the boorus which tend to be a lot more reliable when it comes to artwork, particularly Japanese stuff. Use Google for stuff you don't think would be on one of the boorus.

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>>54875535
>Favorite Jumps to make
I had a lot of fun putting together Katawa Shoujo and Ogre Battle - The March of the Black Queen. Both times I found an excellent balance between tone and function (at least in my opinion) and everything just seemed to flow into place really easily. Those two are also the ones I'm the most proud of, though Divinity: Original Sin might take that spot when it's finished.

>Which one made you tear your hair our in frustration
Well, Crypt of the Necrodancer deserves an honorable mention for that, but it was my first Jump so I try not to feel too torn up about it. But holy shit I should have lurked more before making it.

Currently though Divinity is pulling double duty by taking up the head spot on that list as well. It's not that I mind working on it, but it is work, where my other Jumps I put together for the fun of it. Part of it is my own fault for making the whole Magic system more complex than it could have been, but dumbing it down any further just didn't feel like it represented the world very well.

>>54875061
Restarted!Jumper had a code of ethics regarding interfering in a major way in story lines (at least later on). Some of his Companions really didn't agree with the way he would sit by and let horrible things happen, but he proved several times that interfering too much can make things go even further south in a hurry.

NewChain!Jumper is still kind of early into his trip, but he's very much into being a hero while his reach is still small. It'll be interesting to see how the Path shapes things as he grows more powerful and what he ends up deciding in that regard. It is a great question to keep in mind from a writing point of view.

>>54874628
Yandere bodyguard cat pls.

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>>54875704
>I decided to ask like a normal person, and yet you try to start something which you could have easily ignored.
lol okay faggot

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>>54875535
Kung Fury was the most fun for me to make. Seems somewhat odd, considering it's the one that gets discussed the least (aside from Viscera Cleanup, I guess).

Still think that's probably my best one. I keep feeling like the others are flawed in some ways.

>>54875745
Whatever they wanted.

>>54875786
The student himself isn't that special in any way. he's relatively ordinary

>>54875789
Speaking of the Crypt of the NecroDancer, was that talk about an update a few threads ago actually going to happen? Because if so, I am hype.

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>>54875787
>Use iqdb
That is the one that brings up...non blue board images like saying a lion is a 76% match for it. I think it hates me, atleast Google just gets it wrong within blue board limits.

>>54875814
To be fair, there's not much to talk about. Go back in time, bang a dinosaur, punch a Viking and acquire Hitler.

>>54875851
>bang a dinosaur
Was that in the director's cut?

>>54875745
Level 50 Sorcerers would be able to cast Epic Spells and have a fuckton of Epic feats to do ridiculous.

Also be jealous of Wizards, because they keep getting new level 1 to 9 spells past 20 without having to waste feats on it.

>>54875814
Hey, can you help me out with understanding something? I don't know that much about Exalted, but I've been looking into Infernal stuff and most of the Charms just feel... underwhelming.

Like, there's this Primordial Demon King who's an entire world with infinite unto himself. And his Charms are mostly "burn this one guy when you hit him with a physical weapon" or "people are really scared of you and usually do what you say" or "your skin is harder and you don't feel pain".

Am I missing something?

>>54875789
>he proved several times that interfering too much can make things go even further south in a hurry.
That sound really fucking dumb, honestly.

>>54875857
This >>54875878 was meant for you.

>>54875879
God, can you imagine how annoying it would be to be a level 50 Wizard? You'd have to prepare so many goddamn spells.

>>54875832
Perks to appear ordinary and unassuming.

Perk to be able to blend into background just being un noticed.

Perk to be calm in any situation.

Pretty perk

Harem perk.

>>54875878
Yes? Didn't you get that as a Kickstarter reward?

>>54875899
Which would still only take an hour in total though, so you'd probably just kinda glance at a page of your spellbook to prepare one of them.

>>54875535
My favorites have probably been Sesame Street and Mermaid Melody Pichi Pichi Pitch. I love both of those series, and I had a lot of fun exploring the shows to come up with new ideas I could apply to the jump. I felt very satisfied by the end that I could capture the spirit of each show in the layout of the jump.

The most frustrating one was probably Wee Sing, because the necessary research required skimming through especially long and grating videos with almost non-stop kiddie songs that stuck in my head even after I was done.

>>54875224
>Dungeon Siege 2
What folder is this? Can't seem to find it.

Question about the Fire Emblem Fates Jump:
Do the wolfskin like to eat humans after they kill them for invading their territory, if they are deemed hostile?
I know That Keaton/Flannel enjoys killing and eating would be poacher, but I don't know if this would be shared with the other wolfskin.

>>54875745
If it helps, a Great Wyrm Prismatic Dragon has a CR of 66 and it's a cosmic level threat comparable to some greater deities.

>>54875950
Imaged, right with the other D jumps.
Link in case the drive doesn't like you:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1qb0_OLhDrDc0Y3eE9fWXJyNXc/view

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>>54875843
Oh yeah, it totally is. I got Amplified a week or so ago and have been playing it like crazy. I finally beat an all-zones run with Nocturna today. That damned Conductor fight was putting me through my paces! Thank you Blood Bow and Crown of Thorns for basically keeping me alive forever.

But I've got some ideas already planned out for it. Single Origin (like Katawa Shoujo) with a pool of Perks at the 100/200/400 levels where you can choose which one you want a discount on. The Item section is going to be absolutely, insanely massive and the Companion section is getting more love this time around.

I have ideas on doing something a little special, but I'm keeping that under wraps until I know how I want to pull it off. Otherwise it's just going to disappoint people.

The only downside is that this update is going to smash pretty much everyone's builds. But I think the new quality of the Jump will make up for that.

>>54875886
Restarted!Jumper had a series of sadistic Coordinators who would twist the setting if they found it to be too boring. After thirty Jumps under that kind of pressure, anyone would learn to hedge their bets a little.

>>54875923
That sounds like game mechanics. There's no way preparing one spell and ten thousand spells takes the same amount of time.

>>54876043
Lets be fair if you are level 50 you probably figured out a way to magic your magic to prepare spells for your magic. You are basically a god or higher than a god at that point

>>54876038
Alright, that's fair. It initially just sounded like "you can't fight Fate" bullshit.

What's the best jump for strawberry milk?

>>54876093
Kara no Kyoukai has infinite strawberry ice-cream. Just leave it out for awhile and you get infinite strawberry milk.

>>54875886
Unless you have a perk to prevent butterflies it's pretty much true though.
A lot of stories depend on some pretty sensitive timing and bullshit coincidences to reach the canon conclusion.

In theory any interaction with the setting could butterfly that, but in practice interaction with any of the plot-important people in particular is likely to do it.
Unless you're in a world that runs on fate anyway.

>>54873120
Does failing a scenario objectives mean failing the chain? Because I need to take less drawbacks if that's the case..

>>54876093
I think there's infinite milkshake in Dodgeball.

>>54876093
Xiaolin Showdown has infinite milk works, I'm pretty sure that let's you have flavored milk

>>54874272
It's funny that you've basically permanently marred your reputation because you wanted to try and sneak this power in.

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>>54875857
That's true, yeah. I'm not really complaining, just mentioning an oddity.

>>54875883
Well... Malfeas would have all those Charms and then a whole damn lot more.

Including the really high essence ones that give him an actual world-body, with all the toughness and things that implies. He can just crush people with a city block or an entire layer, and /then/ burn them (and their souls) with that charm.

But in general, yes, the charms individually aren't that impressive.

It's a difference in scale. Malfeas likely has hundreds of Charms that make up his being, probably with a bunch of higher-essence ones to do some of the weirder Primordial things, all backed by his Essence 10 well of Primordial power and guaranteed 20 dice minimum to do anything within his themes.

While a starting Infernal has access to 10 of them.

>>54875535
Fire Emblem Archanea and the Sailor Moon remakes are the jumps I'm most proud of. I may have had to do some hardcore Gap-Filling with War Of The First Exalt, but I think I did a good job with what I've been given.

Yuki Yuuna Is A Hero frustrated me the most because it never seems to answer a lot of big questions about how shit works or how anything in general seemed to function. A lack of worldbuilding is my biggest bane when it comes to jumpmaking for me personally. I wish more settings as a whole did more worldbuilding. That's my favorite part of anything.

>>54876165
Oh, yes. I'll never look at him the same way ever again. You so wise, anon. Not a shitposter at all, no siree /s

>>54876223
Anon?

>>54876223
fucking phone, forgot to turn my trip on

I NEED JUMPS WITH A GOOD BACKPACK ITEM!

>>54875747
Investigative perks?

What are the other backgrounds? Space cop, criminal, the aliens guy?

>>54875510
I like to think of anime Tanya as ugly cute, like a pug or something.

>>54875535
Like asking to decide my favourite child. Usually whatever one I made most recently is my favourite. Fate in general is most frustrating though, though that's less so nowadays now that the other fate siblings are starting to come out easier.

>>54876272
Dora the Explorer.

>>54875061
I'm outside the system. Truly one of a kind.
So I do what I want, when I want. Sometimes that involves abstaining from saving people. And sometimes it involves bloody murder.
But that said, I'm a relatively decent person.
I won't kill the BBEG for you, but I will forge a weapon for you so you can do it, provided you bring me the appropriate materials.
I won't defeat your foes for you, but I'll teach you how to do it yourself.

I'm not the Hero. I'm the Sage.

>>54876272
Harry Potter

>>54876275
the 4 backgrounds ive got are:
Drop in (obviously), Student, Federation Cop, Space/alien Criminal

>>54875883
As Mardukth says >>54876169
It should also be remembered that Malfeas (as well as any other Primordial) is more than just "Malfeas," he's "Malfeas and his entire soul hierarchy, each with their own Charms."

Many of which can be in multiple places at once on their own, including Malfeas himself.

And if you're fighting him, it's probably in the Demon City, so you also have to deal with him crushing you between layers in his world body - which could also be backed by Charms.

>>54876009
Thanks.

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>>54876272
Pokemon for the freebie Backpack?
Any Dungeons and Dragons for Haversacks and Portable Holes?
The Elder Scrolls for being able to enchant a backpack to grant additional strength, essentially canceling out the weight of what you're carrying?
Charm Pouch from The Secret of Evermore?

That's all I've got off the top of my head.

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>>54875535
Batman the Animated Series is probably my favorite Jump that I've made, and my favorite to work on, too. I feel like it's also the Jump that I'm most proud of, as well, with Young Justice as a close second due to being the first Jump I made. Overall, I feel like Batman the Animated Series is overall the highest quality Jump in terms of content, balancing, and my personal enjoyment that I've made so far.

I can't really think of any that actually frustrated me while making them, though. In hindsight, Young Justice has a lot of issues that wouldn't be there if I had made it with the experience that I have now. Most of the things that frustrated me early on were due to inexperience, not being savvy to some of the threads particularities, or going through other shit at the time that made Jumpmaking difficult, but other than that I haven't had much difficulty. I think that's mostly because I'm usually good at picking properties I like and am passionate about to make Jumps for. Except for Bee Movie.

>>54876272
Y U NO Pokemon first?
The bag you get for that holds infinite stuff and costs you nothing.

>>54876283
>Tanya as ugly cute
Tanya is physically cute. Mentally and personality... She's toxic in the extreme. Though I agree with her hatred for X.

>>54876335
>Charm Pouch from The Secret of Evermore?
Oh I remember that from the Claymore Assimilation combo. Nice.

>>54876369
Share the details here?

>>54876359
Pretty sure it's just bigger on the inside, not actually infinite.
I may be wrong though.

>>54876165
I assure you I had no intention of sneaking in any of the perks, items, and other elements of the jump. I expected and accepted that all parts of the jump would receive scrutiny and potential criticism. I just didn't anticipate the level of dislike for parts of the jump.

And what power are you referring to, out of curiosity? When you say "power" instead of "item", I automatically think "perk", but most of the controversy seems to have been over the Wishwater.

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>>54876272
Scott Pilgrim Saves The World has the Hyperspace Handbag for 100CP, which is basically a bag of holding.
That's what I use when I'm not just abusing inventory perks.

Mostly just because I think it looks cool.

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>>54875535
My absolute favorite to make was Broforce, it all just flowed so smoothly and I felt such massive amounts of patriotic passion!

On the other hand Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt was frustrating to produce.

>>54876389
thought it worked like the games. I'm okay with being wrong on this. If i'm not, that's awesome.

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>>54876360
She's not toxic, just socially maladjusted.

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>>54876093
Zelda

>>54876397
I do find it funny how many times you ignored the guy asking for canon justification for why you didn't want to limit it.

I swear that guy asked actually 5 or 6 times.

>>54876387
Stuff things into the Charm Pouch, Assimiliate the Charm Pouch into your body with the Claymore thing.

Now you've got the benefit of wearing all the stuff you put in the Charm Pouch, without actually have to be decked out in three layers each of clothes, armor, various accessories, and carried gear.

>>54876331
>>54876169
Ah, so it's just that the canon Charms don't include the real juicy big stuff?

Could something like aniosotropic universe make Ravenloft not terrible?

>>54876443
He and his off-site supporters made a point of ignoring anything that they didn't like

>>54876397
He's baiting you.

>>54876451
Wait, isn't that what it does to begin with?

...I guess it can't fall off or something?

>>54876462
>make Ravenloft not terrible
I recognize these words, but. . . I do not understand how they fit together. Is this some kind of code?

>>54876430
Reminder that OOT Link canonically had a child with her since TP Link is his direct descendent and a rancher.

>>54876475
Yup. That's really the only benefit from the combo.

Not having to carry the pouch around.

>>54876369
>>54876387
>>54876451
Just eat anything you encounter that has some sort of useful power. It's safer and more ecological. Win-win.

>>54876485
The Dark Powers are whispering in his ear.

>>54876511
Anon, no. Stop eating your shirt.

>>54873120
For the perks and scenarios that requires drawbacks (like God Fruit and Uchiha) do we still get the points for taking those drawbacks?

>>54876497
Reminder that if you get there first, you technically aren't cucking the hero. You're just better at recognizing value than the hero is.

>>54876532
Why do you have to take it in that direction Anon?

>>54876519
Oh. Oh good. I thought it was some sort of strange vistani curse.

>>54876541
I only ever go where my divining rod leads me, anon. It's never failed me.

>>54876499
Couldn't you use something like Oathkeeper from Kingdom Hearts instead? I can't really think of any reason why literally storing something in your soul would count as any less "inside you" than absorbing it into your body.

>>54875535
The Devil Survivor jumps were a blast to make, because I loved both games and there was a lot of material to work with. Helps that both hold a special place in my heart for getting me into SMT in the first place. Also helps that both are settings I'd actually like to go to, if only to help the cast out as play matchmaker.

Digital Devil Saga, on the other hand...I spent at least a year or two on that, because there was surprisingly little to work with, especially for the second game. Doesn't help that writer's block also struck, or that I was busy with other things at the time. And it's especially annoying because I really liked both games, but the jump itself was a major pain in the ass to make.

>>54876443
I admit that I did not handle that matter the best, but I feel that the heart of the problem was a miscommunication over what constituted canon. The book only gave a single instance of a fulfilled wish in the book without indicating if this was the limit and definer for wishes. Seeing as the setting is all about imagination and the ill caused by trying to force reality and rules on everything, I thought that I should maintain a degree of vagueness to keep to the spirit of the story.

So when people insisted that I use the canon moon example as the definer, I misinterpreted it as a shortsighted attempt to force rules on a whimsical setting and stubbornly set my boots in.

My reasoning wasn't necessarily right, but I hope that helps explain why I perceived the requests for canon justification as a threat to the canon.

In any case, that's in the past, and I have used the canon example to apply necessary restrictions to the current version of the item. I still think that it took away some of the mystique to the jump, but I understand the reasoning and was willing to compromise on the matter.

>>54876527
There is literally no reason not to eat a magic shirt, robe, power armor, or ancient artifact of untold power and dominion. Not only does it juice you and take it out of play, so you're not only gaining power but denying the enemy that power, but power is SUPER good for you. It's got antioxidants, vitamins and minerals, and zero empty calories. If you care about your conceptual body, you'll start a power-exclusive diet today.

>>54876532
I figure it falls under the "no fate but what we make" argument.
If someone is fine derailing canon - saving lifes, killing bbegs, conquering whole kingdoms, whatever - then they're in no position to complain about someone waifuing the girl that would have canonically together with the hero (or anyone else for that matter).

It's either "we make our own fate" or "destiny has decreed it be like this".
You can't have it both ways.

>>54876511
Do we even have anything yet that would allow you to do that?

>>54876617
>You can't have it both ways
Excuse you but I have perks for both thank you.

>>54876603
>The book only gave a single instance of a fulfilled wish in the book without indicating if this was the limit and definer for wishes.
So this thing that you're dead set on including, that you've said again and again is key to offer people, isn't, in fact, something that's fleshed out and explained in any detail? If it's not fleshed out, how is it not just OC? Again, explain how this isn't an I win button or pure power grab.

>>54876628
Generic isekei does I think. But its still a wip.

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>>54876461
Well, sort of. The majority of his other charms would be around the same level.

But yes, while the charms that make him a world unto himself and upgrade the scale of some of the effects are relatively few of them, though they'd be a crucially important few.

Also yeah, his soul hierarchy is rather important in considering Malfeas fully as anon mentioned.

We do have the set of Charms that makes the Ebon Dragon into, well, the Ebon Dragon in the RotSE book (which have been confirmed to be equivalent to Charms the other Yozi would have). Giant 50-mile long dragon, pretty big combat stats though known as one of the weaker and smaller Yozi.

>>54876673
Nah, from what I saw it just upgraded your physical stats.

>>54876628
Final Fantasy 8 has a Blue Magic system that's basically eat anything.

>>54876628
A fair number actually. Eating your way to victory used to be a thing back in the day. It irritated some people, but I always thought it was hilarious that some jumpers were the THING FROM BEYOND that just ate whatever and grew more powerful.

It kinda reminded me of Python cultists. No matter what the issue: Python is the solution.

>>54876657
I realize you're probably not serious, but i mean from a morality perspective.

If it's fine to derail anything else it's also fine to "break up" canon relationships before they're formed.

>>54876532
Just waifu Ruto, she's cute and Link doesn't go with her despite how head-over-heels she is about love.

>>54876692
Isn't that just taking magical abilities from monsters and not items?

>>54876582
Is the DeSu2 game anything like the anime? I liked original DeSu1, but I thought the DeSu2 anime was terrible.

>>54876566
That'd probably work too, yeah? It's a pretty old combo, we didn't have Kingdoms Hearts then.

>>54876712
>Animate the item using other magic.
>It is now considered a monster.
>Pummel it for a bit, then eat it.
>Repeat until Ultimate Blue Mage has been created.

>>54876708
Hrm, that's a tough call. Hot, busty, redheaded farmfu or a fish. Yeah, lemmie thi... Nah, tig bitty redhead wins.

Busty redhead always wins, anon. Always.

>>54876628
Skill Transference from Lost Odyssey does something like that, but it's limited to a number of slots.

>>54876705
>Eating your way to victory

That was pretty much my first chain. It's gruesome fun but only for a little while.

>>54875061
>tl;dr Jumpers, how do you justify not solving plots ASAP, in character?
Apathy or a desire to let the plot resolve itself like it did in canon. Sometimes I do step in.

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>>54876763
The absurdness and violence of it never fails to make me laugh. It's my Indy gun; if someone wants to get all fancy and shit and I just don't have the time or patience to deal with them... well

>pic related

>>54876421
>Loli attempts to talk someone out of WWI
>Causes WWI
Tanya is amazing

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>>54875535
The imaged Neptunia remake was a lot of fun, though it occasionally got mildly frustrating trying to get things to fit.

>>54876603
...so were you just lying to our faces when you said this was a core part of the book you had to offer?

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>>54876801
I never cease to find that picture wildly amusing.