Warhammer 40,000 general /40kg/

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>>54866349
First for the Drukhari!

>>54866349
You might still get that new IG release someday... far away in the future when the codex comes along.

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>>54866349
Soon

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Whats their Action Movie Title, again?

How long before this gets derailed into troll posts and info graphs?

Welcome to summer.

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>>54866367
HAIL TO THE ARCHONS!

>>54866376
Being raped by your brother doesn't make shitposting cool.

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Post your models

wip morkanaut next to my gorkanaut

Anyone need the Tigershark/Custodecraft/ganger/doors reposted? From the FW event, wasn't too much exciting stuff

>>54866376
Heh show us an info graph of where your brother touched you faggot.

>>54866377
Three Ogryns Kick Back 2: Revenge Road

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Leave Konor to us.

>>54866425
Konor was already won by the imperium

The campaign is over now

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Why people take transports? Last game my infiltrated chosen melta squad just killed 2 rhinos with zerkers inside with twice shooting (slaanesh stratagem) and other transports doesnt look better than them.

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Ok guise what are your favorite strategems and other items helping youre CSM forces win battles for konor?

I'm really liking this one for my helldrakes.

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>>54866391
If you insist

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I've got ~6000 points of Dark Angels, but while I'm waiting for a DA Codex to drop, I'd decided to expand my forces into a general Imperium army. The obvious first choice is an IG conscript blob because they are so points-effective and bodies win games in 8th, but I'm personally more interested in being a fun opponent than a WAAC metaplayer. Sisters seem cool fluff-wise, but they don't seem to offer much that I can't get with my spess mahreens... am I wrong? What do you think I should get as my first non-DA Imperium unit? Inquisition? A Knight? I'm fishing for fun ideas.

>>54866425
>Failed to take the major Hive World
>Failed to take the Forge World
>Losing on 2/3 areas of the agri-world

Yea let's keep leaving it to you guys.

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>>54866434
Just fashionably late to the party it's about to take a turn friendo!

so I want to build a night lords kytan, and do wings and a gigantic claw instead of the cleaver, probably still use the stock body, any suggestions for parts?

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>>54866376
>>54866382
>>54866385
>>54866396
>>54866399

It begins

>>54866459
Looking gorgeous fellow Archon keep up the nice work!

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>>54866391

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>>54866444
And dont like artifacts expect Murder Sword and Axe of blind fury

>>54866459
Is that green drybrushed with silver so that it looks like weathered, colored metal?

>>54866496
Night lord sympathizing sisters of silence!

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>>54866391
It's better than just shitposting.

2000pts, Genestealer Brigade

>HQ

Acolyte Iconward
Primus
2x Magus [2x Familiars]

>Elite

3x Genestealers[Scything Talons, 7x Genestealers]

>Troops

6x Neophyte Hybrids [10 Neophytes, 2x Webbers, Leader with Webber, Cult Icon] 3 squads will have autoguns and the other 3 with Shotguns

>Fast Attack

3x Scout Sentinels [2x Scout Sentinels, Autocannons]

>Heavy Support

Leman Russ [Battle cannon, 3x Heavy Bolters]
Leman Russ [Battle cannon, 3x Heavy Bolters]
Leman Russ [Exterminator Autocannon, 3x Heavy Bolters]

I think it might be lacking in anti-tank but I dont there is much in the codex, how can I improve this list?

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>>54866391
Pulled my three remaining Escher out of storage... they look like shit. I guess I'll actually start on them this week, but at least past me did an okay job basing them.

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>>54866511

>>54866516
Ko

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>>54866391
Not the best picture, but I finished up my Swarmlord a day or two ago.

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>>54866536
He looks great anon
Hes fun to launch stealers 30" across the board with

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>>54866547

>>54866554
My plan was to have Genestealers pop up in a Trygon tunnel, while he blitzes up with some Warriors.

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>>54866509
I have no idea why the image flipped when uploading.

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Just played a game of Konor with a Chaos vehicle-heavy list.
Got my shit wrecked horribly, turns out he can take three dreadnoughts for the price of my land raider; and they're all better in combat than both my maulerfiend and my soul grinder.
The former no longer gets rerolls to charge and has shredded 2" movement, whilst the latter has a ton of wasted points thrown into mandatory 5+ shooting:

Needless to say, Chaos codex did nothing, we're still shit, Konor missions punish Chaos.

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>>54866439
Because some of us can shoot from inside them, and we ride or die motherfucker

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>>54866391
I would, but it wouldn't be any models you haven't seen. Been on a building spree to get that all out of the way while I try to get rid of this painting slump I've been having. Trying to learn the loaded brush technique so I can have better blends/transitions.

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>>54866577
> we ride or die motherfucker
Definitely die

>>54866505
get the pdf .. it's in the mega. fucking screwed up text.

t̳̝͔̠h͉̰͚͕̰͈͡i̫̤͖̠̳s̘͖͈̼̘̭̫ ͉̜̭̱̭̬̩i̕s̢͉̯̩ͅ ͈̣͙̠̳́w͍̺h͙̟͍̝͚̻ạ̝͉͉͕t̜̱̪̻͇͎͇ ̖̩̱̩ͅt̪̦̝͕̳͉h̸͈̰e͉͍ ̖̭͚̗͎c̵̥̹̬ẖ͉͎̟̟͙a̻̹͖̫o̟̦̦̪̜̯s̘͉̝ͅ ̢̭̺̣̖̬̹c̹̠̱͍o̗d̻͕e̱͖̣͓̮̕x̻̬ ̝̘̯̼̼̙̕e̹̩̪̯̼̞p̥̯u̳̟̖̮͈͝b̳͢ͅ l̵o̢̝̟̟͚̗̱͓o͙̜̜ḱ͕s̖̠ ̱̘̠̪̪̯͠l̞̳͔̠͞i̱̜̫̞͉͘k̜͇͔̻̱e̖̤ ̦͉͢o̺͔̗͞n̺̝͍̳̤̥̰ ̪̫̭̭͇a̩ p͉͈͡c̷͕̫

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>>54866349
How much trouble would a Tech priest be in if he took couple Renegade Astartes(not chaos) and lobotomized/brain washed them into his personal warriors?

>>54866391
love that pose on the mork

>>54866574
what's your list and legion? what was his list and chapter?

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>>54866569
Honestly he won't make it to the enemy most of the time if he's on foot. He's too much of an obvious threat to not eat multiple lascannons and too vulnerable to survive concentrated shooting unless you also bring tyrant guard, which are honestly a waste of points.

Gotta put that fucker in a Tyrannoctye.

>>54866569
Interdasting. Keep in mind he is actually fairly squish so try and keep him out of line of sight of tanks. He is in my opinion worth it for 5 turns of double moves and the potential counter charge that he brings to the table, similar to how girlyman is worth it just for the rerolls

>>54866594
i got pdf, but epub just more comfortable

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>>54866468
It's by a closeable gap at least this time! It's been fun regardless and chaos has won my store at least I did my part.

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>>54866628

>>54866620
Depends on how much influence he has and whether or not an inquisitor found out where they came from.

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>>54866574
meh, this feels like you just suck with your dudes. I'm 12 and 0 in konor as chaos space manz.

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>>54866632
Gotta get another Tyrannocyte once my backlog is lessened. Trying to finish a SM army, some Stormcasts, and starting Chaos doesnt really help any.

>>54866633
Only tank my usual opponent brings is a Sicarian, havent really been able to play much of 8th so far.

>>54866594
reads fine for me on my pc. epub best format

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>>54866574
>Needless to say, Chaos codex did nothing, we're still shit, Konor missions punish Chaos.
YOU WOT?

you took a force that wasn't capable of beating the mission. THAT WAS YOUR PROBLEM.

Consider:
the mission is .. wipe the enemy out (so you have more points than him) or GET EVERYTHING OFF THE TABLE.

for all units moving 12 inches and advancing you need 4 turns to get everything off the table.
12 + avg advance roll of 3 if everything was on the edge of the deployment zone.

you are better off trying to outscore him. destroy his vehicles first so he can't score double points.

instead i pushed my oponne'ts shit in.

i took 3 squads of csm with missle launchers 1 havock squad with 4 lascanons lord in terminator armor + sorceror. Black legion and marks of tzench on all the units.

i knew i wasn't getting off the table so i focus fired teh shit out of him. in 2 turns i summoed 4 units of pink horrors and pushed forward. the horros absorbed the brunt of the damage (not much one unit was reduced to 2. i lead the charge with my helldrake. killed his flyer with havocks.

in the end i got 4 pts he had 0 and on turn 5 he had 2 marines + his commander. i had everything + 4 units of pink horrors. total casualties on my end 1 CSM and 8 pink horrors.

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>>54866574
>>54866626
1000 pts

Renegade Chapters
>Warpsmith
>Land Raider
>Vindicator
>Maulerfiend
>Soul Grinder

Iron Hands
>Tech Marines
>2x Venerable lasdreads
>2x Meltadreads
>Predator w/las sponsons
>Dual las Razorback

>>54866439
because losing your metal boxes is preferable to losing the dudes inside?
Or maybe because even if you put 10 meltas in melta range of an enemy tank there's the chance you still roll like shit and get 1,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1 like i did last game?

>>54866672
what program are you using? Readium has a problem on a few things. i think it's a missing font i don't have that the epub needs. Converted PDF displays correctly.

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>>54866670
I should've said AT weapons, not tanks, but also most tanks can take a chunk out of him.
The tyrannocyte is very sound advice tho for sure. Drop him next to the trygon and genestealers, move the stealers, hope for a 8" charge for trygon(pretty likely), keep swarm out of LOS, then get him stuck in next turn if u can. Very potent combination.

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>>54866719

>>54866693
Kinda sounds like your opponent was pretty shit if he could only kill that much.

>>54866719
>eyelazor because why the fuck not

>>54866693
If all your opponent could kill with his entire army in 5 turns was 4 T3 4++ units and one T4 3+ unit your opponent (or more likely their list) was fucking garbage.

>>54866725
Ill definitely try that out, seems really fun!

>>54866693
Sounds like your opponent was a fucking idiot

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>>54866732

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>>54866749

>>54866562
Man, I remember fapping to the one in the middle as a young cultist. Sweet memories

Are they phasing out Start Collecting? Half of them are listed as "No Longer Available" and not just "Temporarily Sold Out Online".

>>54866459
I really like that green metallic look. Makes me a little jealous.

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>>54866780
I doubt they'd get rid of them considering how well they sell, probably just re-tooling or repackaging them to fit into the new edition.

>>54866777

>trips

Ah, yes, this is pleasing to... Nurgle, of all the Chaos Gods?

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>>54866796

>>54866780
They might be cramming the datasheets in all the boxes. Though I imagine some stock did sell out just due to 8th ed hype.

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>>54866494
Thank you!
>>54866507
Yep; black undercoat, thick drybush of dark green, then for the elites a lighter drybrush of a lighter green, a green ink wash to tie it together a bit then a light silver drybrush. It was a lot quicker and easier than I thought. My hands aren't very steady so the eyes gave me a lot of problems though.

Heres a better pic for clarity, this is with the lighter green layer

>>54866780
nah, they're repackaging. AdMech Start Collecting had the same message, is available again.

>>54866777
To counter-act the Nurgle juju..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuez7HI02IA

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>>54866828
And this is with just the dark green, green ink and silver

>>54866780
They might be redoing them to do a better force selection for 8th, or including the dataslates for the units included in the box (like how new models going forward are getting them)

>>54866695
You took a shooty list for a renegade warband? Nothing in that list benefits from being renegade.

>>54866815
he's trying his best to seduce the guards anon

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>>54866822

anon from last thread here, who wanted to post the 500 point Eldar vs Guard battle report with a friend! Sorry it took me a bit to get in here, got a call from work

as before, I havent played since 5e and he's been out of the loop since 2e, but we wanted to give 8e a whirl! I don't have any photos though, because I'm a huge goober.

the armies we ended up building were

my Eldar:

Warlock Skyrunner with Witchblade

Shining Spears x5 with a Star Lance on the Exarch

Windriders x3 with Shuriken Cannons

Windriders x3 with Shuriken Cannons

and then the guard, with

Company Commander
Commissar
Commissar
Astropath
Command Squad w/ Autocannon and Vox Caster
Veteran Squad w/ Voxcaster
Infantry Squad w/ Flamer and Vox Caster
Infantry Squad w/ Flamer and Vox Caster
Leman Russ with Punisher Gatling Cannon and Heavy Flamer

>>54866574
This week's and last week's missions have been decidedly less in favor of Imperium than the first. Admittedly yes, the mission this week does favor Imperium via deployment (ie a melee army has to travel 36" instead of the standard 18-24" to get in range of enemies) but this is better than the first week. I'm going to assume that since the week Chaos should have had all the advantages was massively imperium biased that the final weeks are going to have a strong Chaos bias to give Chaos a chance at all.

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>>54866875

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>>54866828
Looks great!

>>54866391
>>54866587
I just finished assembling my 3rd and 4th Reaver Squads, I decided to give each rider a bit of personality in their pose this time around. Nothing left to assemble and fuckton of minis ready to paint/prime.

>>54866747
>Sounds like your opponent was a fucking idiot
>>54866743
>>54866738

i used the terrain (mainly buildings to block line of sight and focus fire on units one at a time. he deployed trying to cover all avenues of advance while i centraly deployed for the most part behind a fuck huge building. 1st turn i channeled everything into 1st squad and charged it with my helldrake. he spent the next 2 turns repositioning the remaining units. by the time the 1`st unit was wiped the blob of horrors was ready to pounce on the other 2 units. helldrake went to work on emperor's champion while this was going on.

he badly placed his flyer and let my havocks and 1 squad of CSM take it down. it ended top of 5.

i used my helldrake to basically tie up his forces that were going to help engage.

>>54866923
I love the guy with dual knives

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>>54866979

He needs to be named "Moe."

>>54866695
i like the idea of tech marine and warp smith battling it out with walkers/tanks but i feel the tech marine comes out ahead easily. might wanna drop the land raider for some helbrutes

>>54866874
I rolled for the mission and deployment while he was reading through what Orders did, and we ended up with Secure and Control! I put my objective tucked away on the bottom floor of some ruins in my zone, while the Guard stuck theirs on the roof of a small bunker, with the Punisher parked on the ground floor sticking it's turret out the window and getting cover. His command squad and their Autocannon nestled atop a 3-story tower in his zone to get sight of most of the map, while the commander and astropath hung out below and the infantry spread out to form a firing line

TURN 1

I got first turn, because, I mean, I had 4 units to his 9, and advanced downfield. The Shining Spears covered most of the distance and stopped in some rubble to try and avoid line of sight from the Punisher and infantry, while the WIndriders rushed up and opened fire. One squadron tore into the vets and deleted 7 of them after morale. The other Windriders unwisely rushed down a narrow hallway at an infantry squad, failing to get line of sight for one of the bikes and so only mulching 4 guardsmen. Warlock attempted a smite, but the hiding Astropath denied it.

on the Guard's turn, the now 6-man infantry squad at point-blank range with some windriders got a First Rank Fire Second Rank Fire order and chewed through 5 of their 6 wounds. So the Commissar got a 6th in with his bolt pistol. Which I command pointed to reroll the save, and made it. The Autocannon looking over the battlefield managed to pop a Shining Spear it has LoS of, and the Punisher absolutely obliterated my other Windrider squadron, to the last. Commissar Gallant led his full-strength squad around the battlefield avoiding line of sight of my bikes, in an effort to flank/reach my deployment zone and take my unguarded objective. Commissar Goofus charged the last, wounded Windrider, took an overwatch shuriken to the dick, and beat it to death with his chainsword. So I spent another command point, and again made the save.

>>54866574

You have brought shame to us, brother. The mission was easily winnable, especially against regular marines.

You blundered straight into your opponent's hands, who brought nothing but anti-vehicle. I suppose we trusted you to be more cunning than the iron-headed servants of the corpse-god.

Spawndom awaits!

>>54866990
Any game pics my dude?

And I'm enjoying this shit so far.
And I'm a Guard player

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my current quick and dirty Agrippinaa AdMech

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>>54867036

Are assault marines and devastators worthless now?

Sure seems that way.

I'm painting my shitty first army tonight and I'm having some feels. Can I get some sad 40k art?

>>54867055
Devastators are still good, why wouldn't they be?

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Is the pay to win meme for forge world true? Will I lose the respect of all those around me if I give into the temptation to buy a Tantalus?

>>54867055

devastators are better than they ever where before, anon-kun. Try using them as raven guard.

Assault marines are better than they ever where before, anon-kun. Try using them as white scars.

>>54867080
>10 power
You tell me

>>54867098
I think thats an 18.

>>54867055
2 squads of multimeltas in a drop pod sounds pretty good.

>>54867098

Pretty sure that's 18.

>>54866990
TURN 2

my lone, wounded Windrider fell back and swooped into the building the Commander and Astropath were in, in a last ditch effort to avenge half my army. The Shining Spears and Warlock circled around some terrain and ended up on a side of the punisher's bunker with no windows, and dumped their full round of shooting up at the Command Squad and 3 remaining Vets instead, wiping them to the man. The lone Windrider shaved 2 wounds off the Commander, and the Warlock cast Enhance. Which failed. So I used my 3rd CP to get it through, while the Astropath failed to Deny. Now, the rulebook says units with Fly ignore all terrain while moving, and you dont seem to actually need LoS to declare a charge, so the Enhanced Shining Spears break down the fucking wall of the bunker in their chivalric NEED to joust a tank, denying it overwatch of any kind due to it not having LoS when they actually DECLARED the charge. Unfortunately, without spending any of their shooting phase on it and missing a spear, they only manage to shave 4 wounds off of it.

On the guard's turn, the Russ defiantly remained in melee to deny the Shining Spears the chance to get another charge off. Squad Gallant continued their flanking maneuver towards my objective, while Squad Goofus moved back into some cover and took aim at the Windrider suicide bombing their commanding officer. The last windrider dies handily, and the Astropath attempts Gaze of the Emperor. And gets a 3 on the roll for Range, failing to gaze at anything. The Russ fails to harm the spears in melee, but the Guard player is content to spend the turn consolidating his position and advancing on my objective.

>>54867023
Sadly no, it was a quick game at my friend's house and I didnt take any pictures.

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>>54867036
another pic

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>>54867098
Sorry for the shitty image cut its 18 power though.

>>54867055
as a chaos marine/daemon dude i can tell you 4 marines with lascannons is always a threat.. even if your havocs are widely known for never hitting anything. i can't comment on assault marines

>>54867074
Hellblasters exist.

>>54867087
>devastators are better than they ever where before, anon-kun. Try using them as raven guard.

Y'know, I feel like this might be having a laugh at least in part, but RG Lascannon sniper squads would totally fit their MO.

>>54866963
So all of your havocs were behind BLOS, but were able to see his flyer, implying he deployed it in view of all ur AT? Fuckin idiot.
Then you have a couple of units of horrors and a heldrake in his backfield and he cant handle that? lmao wut

>>54867121

Well, we're forgetting that they're not just Chapter Tactics anymore, there's also Stratagems bundled into them that should also be considered.

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Currently considering an Alpha Legion army, but a theme I can't decide on. I'm thinking either Camo all over them and almost no identifying marks(Aside from what's obvious in the FW upgrade kits) or going full false flag of another chapter, probably Ultramarines or maybe Crimson Fists "Alpha Company". Planning to use mainly HH models and such, CSM range is too old and disorderly for what I want. Thoughts?

Hellblasters are better than devastators, sure a lascannon is longer range but it's a very expensive weapon to put on a 1 wound model.

Hellblasters with an apothecary is better. Regenerating D3 wounds is better than bringing back a single guy.

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>>54866391

>>54867119
And? Devastators are going to outperform them in plenty of scenarios.

>>54867124
not quite.. they had los to 1 squad.. when he brought the flyer in he put it behind a building but peeking out.. he attempted to block los to the havocks but still see a CSM squad to try wipe it out. he din't place it right (they could see 50% of the fighetr. i gave him the cover bonus but still 4 las cannons with presience got it down to 1 wound.. one havock squad fired back and finished it.

if the havocks hadn't been able to shoot at it they would of engaged the 1st 10 man squad instead. and the other 2 csm missle launchers would of fired on the fighter (might of surived with a few wounds left over.

3x 5 csm 1 missle launcher 1 combi plasma re-rolling 1's due to lord's precence

he did spread out too far to cover all avenues of advance. but i kinda force him with my mainly centered deployment. i din't signal ahead till my last drop with the havocks.

>>54867080
>>54867116
I don't think its especially PWT, it seems pretty good but about on par with most other things that cost 18PL

>>54866425
>Dat Tekkaman Blade body

Noice

>>54867174
The only scenario where that is true is one in which the battle is taking place between 36-48 inches away. Period.

If you want dakka from heavy bolters or whatever, inceptors with assault bolters are T5 2W and deep strike.

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Finally gave this techmarine arms and a servo harness after he sat in my bits box for a couple years. At least I've learned about thinning paint since then.

>>54867175
meh. still seems like classic SPESS MUHREENS idiotic player

>>54867112
TURN 3

My Shining Spears fall back, because whacking a Leman Russ with Strength 3 sticks felt like a dumb plan. They circle around and use the Russ itself to block LoS from Squad Goofus, and dump their lances and shuriken catapults into it, managing to reduce it to a single wound (thanks, Exarch!). The Warlock follows the Spears in and charges.... Which is when I remember it had a hull-mounted heavy flamer, and it knocks a wound off my Warlock. The Warlock swings with his Witchblade, though, and...! Watched the tank make every armor save. I had tried to manifest Smite that turn, but it got Denied by the Astropath again.

On the guard's turn, Gallant does their thing and gets within spitting distance of the building I planted my objective in. Squad Goofus move up into a piece of cover with Commander Kreel, and lament how far away they deployed from their own objective. With the Warlock in melee and the tank blocking LoS, they can't engage the remaining Eldar. The Astropath manages another Gaze of the Emperor, and blasts my Warlock down to a single wound. In the fight phase, the Russ awkwardly parallel parks at us aggressively, while the Warlock continues to fail to knock the last fucking wound off the damn thing.

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>>54866391
Not done yet, these fuckers simply have too much bling on them and I'm too autistic to half-ass any of them

After painting for 5 some odd hours today I realized something. This is why I don't have a gf

Techmarines in 8th

Worth the points/slot in a list?

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>>54866391
I posted it a week ago, but really, I just like showing it to people.

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>>54867071
No, fuck you. No pity shitty feels. You're gonna put some thin coats on that and you're gonna have a good time doing it. No one is amazing at painting, it's a skill to be learned.

>>54867226
I'm more sad that I bought some old marines and then the new line of them came out and they're miles ahead better.

>>54867217
i have a gf and let me tell you, it's good sometimes but it's a pain in the ass a lot of the time.

I spend a lot of time doing bullshit with her that I'd rather be spending on my own.

I've literally thought during sex that this 30 min to an hour isn't worth the other 23 hours of the day.

sometimes the only reason I put up with a relationship is because dating fucking blows and i don't want to be completely without pussy

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>>54867217
Gotta get a gf that paints with you mah nigga shit is too cash. Don't compromise your hobby for hos though find a nice girl that ain't after your soul.

>>54867172
Love the looted knight

How is dread mob in 8th edition?

>>54867206
TURN 4
The Spears decide they should probably go do something productive, fly through the wall of the bunker, and crash through a new wall to get at the creamy center of Squad Goofus, their commissar, and the Company Commander. The Warlock falls back and decides to engage maximum elven scumbag tactics, positioning himself on a table edge, in a corner, exactly 25" from the Astropath, and casts Smite, finally dropping that fucking tank. The spears casually erase the Astropath as they fly past in the shooting phase, and charge the infantry in front of them. Commissar Goofus and Commander Kreel both engage Heroic Intervention and dive into the melee - the Spears wipe 4 of the Guardsmen while the Exarch duels the commander 1v1, and manages to kill him. Though only because of the 2 wounds my Windrider squeezed in with their last breath. The Guardsmen and Commissar swing back, but only deal a single wound.

On the Guard's turn, Squad Gallant reaches my objective and advances one last time to fully entrench themselves in the building I put it in, the commissar at the rear while guardsmen man the windows. Squad Goofus takes the fight to the aliens, and the Commissar manages to drop them to 3 models, but on the Shining Spears' retaliation they kill him and his remaining two men.

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So how does this whole GW's campaign thing work on Konor?

Do i just walk in to my local shop with a bunch of unpainted chaos spider monkeys or do i need to put some effort into this?

>>54867215
I'm envious of your skills

>>54867253
Lol bring anything and report to employee who won. Protip play an attrition army.

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>>54867142
works for me/

>>54867253
You get points for playing or painting. Either paint a unit and report it to the store or play a game using the weekly mission and report it to the store.

>>54867246
Respect.

>>54867221
The servo arm point tax kind of sucks. On paper they look like they can put out some pretty neat close range fire power at least.

I'm inclined to say no, but I haven't tested them in action and I'm still going to use mine regardless because they're cool

>>54867247
good. though certain armies shit on it, and certain armies get shit on. So basically same as 7th, but no more "oh your first lascannon shot kills my gorkanaut? Thats ok I didn't want to use all 6 hull points anyway"

>>54867253
you also get 1 point per unit painted during the campaing. this week is vehicles sot this week double points on painted vehicles.

next week i think is psychers. I should have my 50 pink horrors ready for double points (5 per unit 10 units 20 points)

>>54867257
Like sonic blasters and BMs?

>>54867217
Dont count yourself out, I'm sure there are plenty of other reasons too

I'm kidding I love you anon. But seriously this Dark Eldar knows the score >>54867246, the best girls are the ones that will paint with you, or at least get excited to see the results of your work even if its not her thing

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>>54867246
>tfw your gf paints better than you

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>>54867172
HOLD THE FUCK ON!

Is that a empra-damned mechanical giant squig there?

>>54867221
Not sure about normal tech marines but space wolves iron priests look pretty gud

Not sure if it's an error that's been erratad but for 5 points more they can take the tempest hammer which does not suffer the -1 to hit penalty and can cause mortal wounds

>>54867252
My opponent rolls to see if the match ends (we figured such a small scale game, we can start that on turn 4 instead of 5) but it doesnt. So he looks me in the eye and dares me to take my Objective from him.

TURN 5

the Warlock, bleeding out and just really not feeling it anymore, putters up to the roof of the tank's punker and parks his bike to secure the objective. The 3 Shining Spears rush downfield in a desperate attempt to push a full-strength Guardsmen squad plus Commissar off our objective, but can't reach Charge range. Best they can manage is empty their shuriken catapults, AND... fail to kill even a single Guardsmen with that fucking 4+ save in cover.

The guard player has a single model in his guard squad move, as Flamer Frank runs screaming to the front of the squad to get within range. The full squad opens up with lasguns and Frank gets 5 hits, blasting a 3rd Shining Spear to shit. Commissar Goofus charges..... and the Exarch lands an overwatch shot with the Star Lance, obliterating him. The Guard rolls to see if the match ends, and CPs it when it doesnt, because he gleefully has 10 men on my objective, and things end there.

So we tally up Victory Points. He has 10 men uncontested on my Objective. He secured First Blood when his tank ripped apart a trio of Windriders, and he had Linebreaker with his squad buried up to their dicks in my deployment zone.

I had my Warlock uncontested on his objective, Who also gave me Linebreaker, and I got Slay The Warlord when my Exarch ran over Commander Kreel.

So, our forray into 8e proceeded to end with a total Draw, a 5 Victory Points each. But he considered it a moral victory anyway, because fuck elves.

And that's that battle report!

>>54867221
Not sure how different your loyalist version is, but warpsmiths still are not worth bringing

>>54867321
Not having -1 to hit got fixed real quick, it was too good to last anyway

>>54867080
>Is the pay to win meme for forge world true?
Hah

Most FW units are weak sauce. There are a few good ones and a couple of OP ones.

>>54867321
>>54867278
Blessing of the Omnissiah isn't that good when heavy weapons capable of reliably damaging a vehicle do D2, 3, 4 D6 damage.

D3 damage once per turn just seems meh.

>>54867098
The FW expert comes in to tell us that it's OP

>>54866377
John Thicc

>>54867330
That's a Hell of a fight to get into a new edition with. Sounds like a good time.

-Tyberos the Red Wake (205)

-Lieutenant (63)

-Assault Terminators (280)
Thunderhammer w/shields

-Rhino (80)
Storm Bolter
Hunter Killer

-Land Raider (391)
Twin Heavy Bolter
Twin Lascannon x2
Storm Bolter
Multi Melta
Hunter Killer

-Knight Crusader (598)
Avenger Gatling Gun
Rapid Fire Battle Cannon
Heavy Stubber
Heavy Flamer
Melta
Stormspear Rocket Pod

-Tactical Squadx10 (171)
Combi-Flamer
Plasma Gun
Heavy Flamer

-Tactical Squadx10 (183)
Combi-Plama
Plasma Gun
Missile Launcher

(1971)

Thoughts on my Carcharadon list? This is what I have so far but I'm willing to mix and match between the list. The only thing that I do absolutely want to keep is Tyberos and the Imperial Knight, otherwise I have sort of tried to build around those two. I'm not sure if the stuff on the tactical squads will be any good but I think it might work.

>>54866377
Commandough.

>Take points from imperium at least 3 times
>shop only showing imperium victories on website

Fucking cheating imperials

>>54866425
Huh, so female space marines do exist?

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>>54867350
I agree with the amount of points you have to spend for the guy, d3 wounds restored is way too little

How would you folks fix the humble techmarine?

>>54867306
>>tfw your gf paints better than you
MARRY HER!

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>>54867334
> Warpsmith: Melta, flamer, potential plasma, decent statline, one of the best armor saves, curse, and a vehicle heal.
>Not worth bringing

No wonder Chaos is loosing this fight. Guess it is time to lube up the gears of war...

>>54867080
Most FW buyers would never admit it, but unless the model they are buying is merely a better looking alternate version of an existing model(e.g. khorne berzerkers) then they are buying it for the rules.
You wouldn't buy a more expensive but objectively worse model. You probably wouldn't even buy a more expensive model that had rules on par with a model was was available in GW plastic.

When people tell you FW isn't pay to win, they are lying.

>>54867406
I hear FW makes some sorta Ork transport copter that I'd love to have, just for the rules. But I'd honestly just build my own, because fuck buying the damn thing.

>>54866391
>orklets, when will they learn?

>>54866574
I ran a couple of deep strike dudes, and a couple of 160-200 pt speedy vehicles with a nox blightbringer boosting their advances + the shoot and advance strat. Things went pretty well really. Maybe don't take slow vehicles in a speedy game mode

>>54866460
Get a talons box, sos and custodes with black (pre bobby g) armor

>>54867393
Lower or remove Servo Arm costs. I wouldn't mind him not healing so much (and if he healed more I could see it getting out of hand quickly) if he didn't have to pay for two weapons he rarely uses.

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>>54867315
mebe

How is the NLs relic?

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Can anyone explain why GW included a mk5 sholder pad in the intercessor box?

Did Cawl run out or parts?

So I started a 1k Sons army just before 8th and then went awol. I'm back now and I heard my legion got the shaft with the new codex. True?

>>54867472
TLDR TSons is getting their own codex so you don't get a lot from the CSM one.

>>54867459
Probably a mark of veterancy
Can't regular marines be "upgraded" to primaries marines?

>>54867459
wearing the studded pad post-heresy is more of a symbolic thing, for remembrance

>>54867330
Thanks for the report man, they're always appreciated and it was a fun read

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>>54867017
>You have brought shame to us, brother. The mission was easily winnable, especially against regular marines.
>You blundered straight into your opponent's hands, who brought nothing but anti-vehicle.

Ork Freeboota git here, (I posted >>54850126 over on the Fate of Konor thread).

Vehicle vs anti-vehicle has nothing to do with it. The question is: was he more focused on fighting the other Iron Hands player, or was he more focused on those victory points by reaching the "Exit Route" on the defender's side of the board.

My goal the entire time was to get enough boyz off the table through the exit route before my IG opponent could take them down. Just barely managed to pull off a 7-6 victory (would've been 9-6 if one of my trukks had rolled a 6 instead of a 5 to advance... bloody thing was half-way off the table, but I couldn't get it all the way out before the Guard player managed to take it out.

OK

serious question

What is this shit I am hearing about cypher being zurithel, and lion el johnson finding oroborous the time crystal that let him go back in time and beat cruze even though he can see the future, then him fucking up and destroying caliban with it NOT the fleet bombardment, THEN his soul somehow gets trapped in the lion sword and his body is in stasis and now he is inhabiting cyphers body??

>>54867223
Nice job anon!

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>>54867477
>>54867484

Were any of the first primaris (as in woken up after 10,000 years) originally marines? In that case I could understand it.

What are people's opinion on Disk of Tzeentch for the exalted sorcerer? waste of points? Kinda needed because the army is slow as balls?

Secondly, would multi sorcerer/exalted sorcerer spam with supreme command detachment be worth anything at all? I kinda liked making a wizard cabal, but I understand that I run the risk of getting absolutely shot the fuck up.

>>54867504
Wut

>>54867586
If I recall correctly yes, the Fulminators were Marines from the 30k era that got put on ice

>>54867593
im dead serious. I want to believe the person who told me this is full of shit, but they are super knowledgeable about the rest of the lore, and said that its legit in the newest horus heresy books.

>>54867612
I'd totally paint and play Fulminators but they haven't given us decals.

>>54867591
No point in being faster than the unit they'll want to hide behind

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Any comments on this army list?

2000 pts

Vanguard detachment
[HQ] Wolf lord in terminator armor (162)
Combi-plasma
Thunder hammer

[HQ]Rune priest in terminator armor (141)
Runic terminator armor
Storm-bolter
Runic stave

[Elite]Dreadnought (177)
Twin lascannon
Close combat weapon with heavy flamer

[Elite] 5x Wolf guard (120)
Pack leader: power sword and boltgun
storm shield and boltgun
Wolf claw and boltgun
Chainsword and boltgun
Thunderhammer and storm bolter

[Elite]5x Wolf guard (158)
Pack leader: frost axe and boltgun
Powerfist and combi-melta
Storm shield and boltgun
Chainsword and storm bolter
Thunderhammer and storm bolter

[Elite]Wolf priest in terminator armor (146)
Storm bolter and crozius arcanum

[Elite]5x Wolf guard in terminator armor (244)
Pack leader: Thunder hammer and storm shield
Thunder hammer and storm shield
3x wolf claw(pair)

[Troop]16x Blood claws (303)
Wolf guard in terminator armor: storm bolter and chainfist
Pack leader: bolt pistol and power fist
Chainsword and plasma pistol
2x plasma gun
11x chainsword and bolt pistol

[Troop]10x Grey hunters (157)
Pack leader: boltgun and power sword
Plasma gun
8x boltgun

[Transport]Drop pod (105)
Storm bolter

Auxiliary support detachment
[HQ]Bjorn the fell-handed (248)
Assault cannon
Heavy flamer
Trueclaw

1961/2000 pts
4cp

>>54867591
>Disc of Tzeentch
It depends on how aggressively you intend to use your sorcerer. But RAW means he loses his own aura buff due to his keyword changing and it lost the +1T it used to have so right now it's kind of shitty.

As for the sorcerer cabal, in matched play you are only allowed to use non-smite a single time so any amount of sorcerers over 3 is going to be redundant... and that's not even to mention how few points you'll have leftover for the infantry needed to hide them behind. Might be fun in a narrative game involving summoning.

>>54867591

Currently the disc is a trap because it takes away the infantry tag, which you need to benefit from your own aura. I've heard that this is getting fixed though.

>>54867253

One of the best pictures ever

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i may be reading this wrong, but go Grand Masters in baby carriers count as heavy support?

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Ok. Game tomorrow night with five Custode Dreads.

DeadBoiz™ are ready to go.

>>54867080
no.
you don't need to use FW minis for their rules.
cheap conversions and scratchbuilds are the norm for those who only want the game advantage.

Someone with the actual model (that isn't a recast) has it for the mini. You don't spend a lot more than you need to for a game advantage.

Anyone else try to fill their depression hole with 40k minis? It might not get me a gf but the rush of spending money sure is nice for moments.

>>54867620
Actually they exist already, they're on one of the existing marine transfer sheets

>>54867715
I kinda assumed that's what we're all doing here, we just were avoiding drawing attention to it.

It does feel nice to buy a new box of plastic, even if you know you haven't finished painting the last one.

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>>54867697
They're clearly HQ, look at the icon

Sup fa/tg/uys
Looking for some suggestions on new models to pick up for my AdMech army, i've currently got.

Belisarious Cawl
3x Tech-priest Dominus
1x Cybernetica Datasmith
5x Sicarian Infiltrators
30x Skitarii Vanguard
10x Skitarii Rangers
3x Kataphran Destroyers
2x Kastelan Robots
3x Onager Dunecrawler

I was thinking of an Imperial knight of some sort(for fun and flavour) but id love some suggestions

>>54867730
I do it from time to time. I genuinely love the hobby, have a gf, and a good career. It's nice to delve into it when you're feeling bored or depressed in some way, but good or bad you can still love it all.

>>54867733
A knight probably isn't a bad thing to get. What are the 3 destroyers you have built as? Grav and plasma both are more or less viable at least so having a squad of each isn't the worst idea.

There's also Dragoons/Ironstriders but they're at best meh atm depending on who you ask.

>>54867731
>2+ save on dreadknights with the baby literally exposed to everything

Who thought this was a good idea?

>>54867779
Terminators are 2+ as well.

>>54867779
He's still wearing 2+ Terminator armour

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How sharp are the teeth of a chainsword? Could a Black Templar swing it hard enough to cut a World Eater, at least superficially?

>>54867790
>>54867789
I see

>>54866444

The cultist respawn is the greatest fucking thing ever. I played a Konor mission today with termies, lord, and sorcerer in reserve with a few other units at the 18" mark including a blob of 40 cultists. End of T1 movement, I picked up my cultists, and placed them right at the edge of the map exit. Then, I dropped all my deep strikers right next to them. The Marine player just didn't have the means to suddenly nope then off the table. On my turn I just slid off for free points.

>>54867443
That is fucking awesome. Both of them are actually.

>>54867795
Yes?

>>54867769
They are built as plasma but i can always swap them for grav, havnt tried it in game yet. I was thinking a Knight Warden but I can always magnetise the arms on it to try out the other types. Yeah i didnt feel to impressed by the Dragoons and Irontriders on paper

>>54867715
>depressed because girls won't kiss him
Top fucking kek what a little faggot. No wonder you're alone little bitch ahahahahahaha

i'm a kissless virgin but you don't see me crying you pathetic bitch

>>54867813
Could you elaborate?

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>Watch battle report
>Features a Knight

>>54867837
Not really

>>54867837

Not the guy that replied to you, but with some applied force over a short time, they can cut through a motherfucker. Depends on where on armor (joint, etc) and quality of weapon and armor it's cutting.

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>>54867801
>The cultist respawn is the greatest fucking thing ever. I played a Konor mission today with termies, lord, and sorcerer in reserve with a few other units at the 18" mark including a blob of 40 cultists. End of T1 movement, I picked up my cultists, and placed them right at the edge of the map exit. Then, I dropped all my deep strikers right next to them. The Marine player just didn't have the means to suddenly nope then off the table. On my turn I just slid off for free points.

god i wish i had thought of that i would of done that.

did you have a force restriction? my store had 45 power level + battalion (+3cp) and 1 vehicle minimum. What was your force?

if i could have done that i think i would of gon with the elite choice + lord + sorceror in terminator armor. marks of tzench on both and the terminators/cultists. deep strike everything exept the cultists.. do the cultist pop to bubble wrap the whole thing. then summoned pink horrors to top it off. (probably get 2 units of 20 using new codex?

my pic: your opponent's face

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>>54867715
I find single is more comfortable.

>>54867825

I am a god of cunt and you are trash. Now that I'm in my 30's and my endocrine system isn't controlling my every action, pussy isn't much of a concern. But 40k is still enjoyable.

>>54867851
Let's say, a standard astartes chainsword. I just keep wondering why you always see loyalist and traitors charging at each other with chain weapons if they have no AP value.

>>54867874
Because Power Weapons are expensive and only chaos champions can afford them or loyal squad leaders are allowed the right to wield them in battle.

>>54867869
>I am a god of cunt and you are trash
I'm not the one crying like a bitch in an anime imageboard ahahahahahaha

30 years old and still a little bitch faggot ahahahahahahaha

>>54867874

They may not have it in the game (I haven't completely read the new edition's rules yet), but in the lore, the books, of which I've read dozens, they most certainly slice through astartes power armor.

>>54867888
But that still doesn't expect what they expect to accomplish using those weapons instead of just bolters or knives.

There has to be at least SOME penetration.

>>54867893

I'm not the guy to whom you were speaking, Mr. Cock Has Never Tasted Cuntflesh. I'm just a dude who has plowed enough beavers to know that it ain't all it's cracked up to be. At least, not after you've shredded a few dozen.

>>54867855

We played 1500pts. Mine was a battalion with a Lord, Sorcerer, cultists, 10 Marines in a rhino, 5 Marines on foot, 5 raptors, and 10 terminators, so it was totally legal in your restrictions. It was glorious. I nuked a unit off the board with combi-plasma to secure another VP, then claimed 5 more points while denying my warlord. He couldn't actually win because I only had 4 VP left on the table.

>>54867909
>There has to be at least SOME penetration

Phrasing?

>>54867406

The problem with your argument is that prior to 8th edition GW rules were far and away more broken and overpowered on average. Nothing in FW ever compared to Daemon summong, scatterbikes, 2++ re-rollables etc

99% of FW units are junk or average. There's maybe, what, four that are overpowered?

>>54867901
See, that makes more sense, but to what degree? I mean, there still has to be a 'gap' between them and power weapons, or else the latter would be redundant.

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In light of my codex I made a new list for 2k Grey Knights and would like some feedback.

>2 HQ Babies for 3+ Invuln memes with magic while hitting like a truck. (One comes in deployed, the other TP's in.)

>Strike Squads are there to teleport my transports and anyone who needs it. If enemy infantry is bountiful they can teleport themselves and clean house with Storm Bolters.

>Paladins are there to ride in the raider until their target is within range

>Raider ferries around big boys and gets teleported while whipping up a lot of bullets using the occasional psybolt stratagem

>Purgs ride in the razors and get out the back to shoot using the razor as cover and using astral aim cheese with onslaught stratagem ammunition

>Razors are metal boxes with big guns on them meant to be teleported initially so I can use Lascannons without penalty if they don't move before the tp

>>54867911
It's clearly not, because I'm still standing here with all my limbs intact. Which is why I find it so hilarious that faggots come here and cry and get 'depressed' (top fucking kek) about that shit like if they're going to die from not getting their dicks wet.

>>54867925

Power weapons are kind of like a light saber. They just shred almost anything. Chain swords are generally for shredding unarmored up to perhaps astartes power armor, but can't really do shit to a vehicle, dreadnaught or terminator unless you got really lucky and cut a joint or power cable or something.

>>54867909
They could be familiar with them. In antiquity knights fought with weapons that couldn't pierce armor. They aimed for weak spots and shit. Could be the same for them.

>>54867909
The penetration is shown as failed armor saves.
The astartes, heretic and loyal, are aiming for joints and such with these weapons, the extra attack granted from wielding chain weapons is supposed to represent that the blade is still spinning after making contact I think.

>>54867911
31 years old, slept with 94 different women thus far and i can't remember most of them except that I got to 94 from remembering 93, etc. Can verify, for every one night stand or 1 month relationship or whatever, it's not worth it nearly any of the time.

Now I'm getting to the age where women want to settle down and I have zero desire to marry or have kids. Maybe when I'm in my 40s.

being single sucks, but it's really grass being greener. when you're with someone you have to sacrifice what you want to be with them, and if you REALLY care about them then you fear losing them and that's a whole other can of worms to deal with.

Also, not that you asked but NEVER FUCK SOMEONE YOU WORK WITH/AROUND.

which, admittedly, is difficult since those are the people you have the most access to - but if it goes south AND IT WILL you will regret it. I know I have.

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>>54867911
>I'm just a dude who has plowed enough beavers to know that it ain't all it's cracked up to be. At least, not after you've shredded a few dozen.

>>54867944

True. I think their being bummed out is steeped in the ignorance of not realizing that it isn't that great. I mean, I see tasty like 20 year olds at the mall, and the thought of having to listen to them talk for a little while just destroys any desire I'd have to endure their babbling in exchange for sex. Like slutty hens clucking.

>>54867948

That's actually pretty cool, if that's the reasoning behind it.

>>54867911
>>54867953

Actual combined total: -1

>>54867953

I can concur with your entire post. Very perceptive and true shit. You've nailed about 1.5 my number, but our results are the same.

The grass is greener where the dogs are shitting. (RIP Chris Cornell)

>>54866923
Chainhook guy looks like he has the right idea.
Did you just take it from a box of wyches or something?

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Going off actual game rules, and not ABD's wankery, how likely is it for Abaddon to kill Sigismund (or for Sigismund to kill Abaddon)?

>>54867969
You are 14 years old shut the fuck up

>>54867995

rofl. Given that this is the internet, you'd have a high probability of being correct. Not in this specific instance, but virtually all others.

Anyone else really sick of clicking fucking boxes with street signs in them to talk to you fucking jagoffs?

>>54868017
switch to legacy captcha, virgin

>>54867223
And you should

>>54868012

I fucking wish dude. I enjoyed life and looked forward to the future then...

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Are SoB models with storm bolters still a waste of the pewter they're cast in?

>>54867995
I know it's hard to imagine that people out there in the world are fucking, but it's happening.

>>54867945
But you can't cut a tank in half with a power sword, anon. If those have never enhanced the stenght of the user, just cut through power armor, then it must be something else, no?

>>54867947
Except they didn't, maces, warhammers, estocs and poleaxes were all knight weapons made to defeat plate, because the 'chinks' in the armor were not only hard to hit with any significant force but also protected by chainmail and stuff.

>>54867948
Yeah but then eviscerators and chainaxes would have the extra attack too, right? Hitting a joint is nearly impossible with any significant force against a moving, actively defending target.

Power armor also lacks joints in any vital area.

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>>54868017
>he doesn't know about legacy captcha

And you expect me to believe you've fucked even a single human being?

>>54868031
Its not hard to imagine

Its hard to imagine autists on /tg/ in the 40k general who talk about "all the sick pussy they shred" actually having sex though

>>54867223

You painted that? That is fucking tits as fuck dude. Like, 'eavy metal quality.

Annoying followup questions. How long have you been painting? Is it something most people can learn with sufficient time and dedication?

>>54868031
Yeah, but they're not here boasting about how many chicks they've boned

>>54868039

I rarely post and haven't in a while. Sorry I can't keep up with super cool shit like autists trying to stop bots from talking.

>>54868047
We're not all neckbeards you know.

Just mostly.

>>54868032

You don't need to cut it in half. Just fuck it up or slice a portion open and drop explosives in there and brew that fucker up.

>>54868032
There's whole fighting styles based around wrestling another dude in plate with just swords. Seriously google it.

>>54868053

Not boasting. It's not that great. I'd trade a lot of the snatch for the painting skills of that guy who painted that knight that got posted above.

>>54868053
Okay, you're right - I totally made it all up. Whatever makes you feel better.

>>54868065

haha. He has a hard time comprehending how people push beyond the "holding hands" stage.

>>54868053
If he's telling you it sucks, is it bragging?

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>>>/soc/

>>54868029

No. They're actually statistically better than a flamer now iirc

>>54868071
Nah I don't think so, if power swords were lightsabers they should be able to bisect a tank, but then power fists would have no reason to exist and it's not how they're reflected on the tabletop anyway.

Maybe the power field has a limit as to how much matter it can displace in one slash? That would explain why power axes seem to hit harder.

>>54868047
People that brag about fucking usually don't get much.

I'm lewd irl but I don't brag about how my gf and I ruin one another. It's tacky and childish.

Then again I look like a jock and people act like I'm lost when I come to a game store.

>>54868097
More that a vehicle is really big so you'd have a hard time even with a lightsaber.

>>54868076
I know it exists, but it wasn't widely used with so many weapons that could just smash your helmets. The style you mentioned consisted of pinning the guy to the groung and thrusting a dagger through his visor, so it wouldn't work with chain weapons anyway.

Question: I have acquired a bunch of Orks, what are the latest rules I should use and can I just go mad painting and assembling or should I construct an army list first?

>>54868104
This guy gets it. When you're actually having sex regularly, you don't feel the need to talk about sex.

>>54868114
Yeah but with a lightsaber you could cut the armor open and kill the crew inside, or cut off the canons and sponsons and more shit you can't do with a power sword.

>>54868104

HAHA. I went to a "comic con"- like event near boston in 2011 to meet patrick stewart. I was shooting the shit with sean astin cuz he had a table there, and he said I didn't look like the kind of guy that would go to these things. I just shrugged and laughed.

>>54868104
>People that brag about fucking usually don't get much.

Pretty much my thoughts.

>normalfags
will you stop sucking your own dicks for a second and start talking about plastic men with me?

>>54868128
The Index is in the Mega at the top of the page (Index Xenos 2 specifically)

I'd have a read through and see what your options are before putting stuff together

>>54867974
I think that's the reasoning behind it, I'm basing this entirely off of my interpretation of the lore behind the rules, as well as the old Fantasy Flight games versions of them. I might be wrong.
But considering chain weapons have been shown to cut through armor sometimes, I'm probably right.
>>54868032
Oh yeah, good point, I have no idea why chainaxes don't have an extra attack.
I guess sometimes the spinning of the blades helps cut through the armor, chainswords show this through extra attacks, chainaxes show this through -1AP.
A chainaxe does have a much broader "blade", so maybe chainswords just have an easier time using the cutting blade to make "extra attacks" while a chainaxe, being able to put a little more force behind it, has an easier time of actually damaging the armor.
Also I'd count the arm as a vital area, while it's possible for a human to survive and practically unheard of for an astartes to die of a severed arm, it does effectively take you out of the fight.

>>54868130
Sure if the tank just sat there and didn't do anything. Even lightsabers take a while to cut through dense stuff.

>>54868141

Sorry. I contributed to all this normalfag shitposting. You're right dude.

Now, about power weapons, the power field is intended to blast an object apart when it is struck with it. So it can cleave(blast) holes in tanks and shit bro.

>>54868141
Tell me about your last plastic man battle anon

>>54868139
Or they do and don't really get much fulfillment and need the validation of others to feel good.

I don't give a shit. Nobody has ever died from lack of pussy, I'd rather play plastic men and do martial arts.

>>54868117
There's gotta be a few examples of people getting chainswords through gaps

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What's his name again?

>>54868032
>Power armor also lacks joints in any vital area.

Ehh there is some around the neck below the helmet, but any warrior worth shit will be defending it, except in the most dire/unlucky circumstances.

>>54866439
>Transports I
the survivability of a unit a lot.
>Transports allow you to get assault units like berserkers into combat faster with less risk
>Transports let you manouevere ob sec units to the objectives they need to capture
>Transports are actually incredibly survivable , even melta can flop as it's still wounding a rhino on a 3.
>The transport itself can be used to block a units LOS that you plan to charge, meaning the unit can't overwatch.
>A transport can play bumper cars and charge another unit or vehicle once it's unit has been deployed. Though it will be ineffectual it will prevent that unit from shooting and can continue to chase it until your opponent wastes time dealing with your empty transport.
>Transports like Razorbacks or wave serpents are actually effective gun boats in of themselves that you can spam out and allow you a lot of firepower dispersed over a bunch of pretty tough to kill vehicles.

>The question is why aren't you using transports ?

With the exception of Reivers, all of the primaris models emphasize shooting over assault.

If I were to play a primaris exclusive army, which chapter tactics benefit them the most?

I'm thinking Ultras but I'd like to hear opinions and the rationale behind those opinions.

>>54868005
You gotta nerf Sigismund. |It's said that old age dulled his abilities and lowered him to the level of other space marine sword masters. In his prime, he would have been unbeatable.

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What colour do you paint the soft armour on your marines? Do you use a metalic or matte colour?

This is important

>>54868165
Can also go up through the groin.

>>54868147
Thanks chum

>>54868168
I am, just using repulsors since they double as transports AND battle tanks.

the age of the rhino/razorback is at an end.

>>54868163
Dayo the Tallyman

>>54868128
Get a basic idea of how you want to organize guys, assuming they're multipart kit boyz, and not just snapfit starter set boyz. If they're snapfit starter stuff... just put them together. Everything from the last big starter set (Warboss, Nobz, Slugga Boyz and Deathkoptas) are pretty useful as is. If you have boyz boxes, you got a few decisions to make, like Sluggas or Shootas, and if you want to save up any rokkits you have to start building tankbusters (you probably do). And a boyz box, or even the snapfit boyz, can be used to expand on a lot of specialty troops. If you can slap a jump pack on a boy, he's a stormboy, if he's got a burna, he's a burna boy, etc.

Enjoy your army!

>>54868169
Ultras are probably the best honestly raven guard and salamanders would be the other two contenders and primaris don't mesh particularly well with them, lacking special weapons and long range fire on quite a few of their units.

>>54868169
Haven't played Primaris (or my Marines at all in 8th yet) but on paper Ultras, RG, Salamanders and IF (depending on the cover concentration of your average battlefield) should be good. IH is also a decent allrounder choice.

I think I'd be more inclined to run Salamanders on normal Marines, as that reroll is better on a Lascannon or Thunder Hammer than the bulk fire Primaris units put out. RG is nice, but if you know your meta has a lot of 1st chargers and fast armies it may have less value.

Ultras is never a bad choice, that much is true at least, especially if you're running Aggressors and Hellblasters.

>>54868148
I dunno man, the arm joints on power armor are like, very very small. A traitor and a loyalist would just keel parrying each other forever... Maybe if the blades had enough weight to give a concussion, or take a lot of energy to get a real cut or something.

>>54868151
Still man, it would cripple the tank just by cutting the tracks. And you have to get close with the power fist too.

Why would power axes and mauls work differently otherwise?

>>54868215
Axes and mauls have a larger, more diffuse power field.

>>54868156
I lost by one point with half my army on the table, he had two models.

>>54868160
If you got e'm, post e'm

>>54868165
You'd also need to stab nearly vertically, because many of the newer marks have a neck protection 'gorget' on them.

>>54868172
I think most chainswords are broader than that joint...

>>54868215
Well I think that's what hit and wound rolls are supposed to represent, I don't know if you've ever had loyalist and heretic astartes trying to kill each other in melee with only chainswords but it's pretty difficult.
Heretics win out in melee from Death to False Emperor special rule granting even more attacks though.
Battle is a hectic thing man, sometimes a frantic swing of the blade can rip into a weak point in the armor.

>>54868224
Which means?

>>54868230
Perhaps if different sections of the armor had varying thickness. Is the helmet significantly thinner than the pauldrons? My logic says it should be, but what do you think?

>>54867406
You can buy for rules that interest you instead of just rules that are arbitrarily more powerful. What a ridiculous assertion.

>>54868227
what armies?

>>54868257
Looking at my heretic dudes that does definitely seem to be the case, I think most parts of the armor are thinner than the pauldrons. Also there's thick leg armor on the shins but the upper leg is thinner, and there's some thin bits under the thick chestplate too.

>>54867458
Pretty good, not too expencive, cant take it on a DP tho

>>54868276
AdMech vs Deathwatch

At the end of it even he said he only won out of luck, if I had rolled to continue the game he would have been tabled next turn. We played this weeks Konor mission with him as defender and me attacking.

What do you think about the Plague Marines having all these melee options? It seems that you can customise the whole squad to the point no one has a bolter

>>54868280
>not too expencive
what did he mean by this

>>54868289
i think its a trap DESU, plague marines just aren't killy enough to justify taking their melee options.

>>54868238
They're not as good at cutting through armor but have a much larger wound cavity.

>>54868163
Teehee Maccaroni

>>54868171
I use a metallic, followed by nuln oil

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Does this stratagem mean you can cast smite twice? Because this could get pretty broken with Magnus

>>54868406
No, the restriction's still apply.

>>54868406
Magnus isn't in the codex you dumb fuck. That's a prerequisite for using the stratagems.

>>54868406
I think it still follows standard psychic phase restrictions, it just means he can cast smite and his three other knows psychic powers.
It seems most psykers know one more power than they can cast.

>>54868406
I don't see anything saying you can cast the same power again, just you get to cast an additional power.

>>54868420
Your army must be battleforged using the rules for Chaos Space Marines codex.
However, index battlesheets are still allowed to be used, but Magnus in your army means you miss out on Legion traits.
Best bet is to put him in a secondary supreme command Detachment along with some other HQ's, like Ahriman, some daemons, or something else from chaos because he can still be target for said stratagems.
You need a battleforged CSM detachment to have access to the stratagems, you don't need to be in said detachment to be a legal target.

>>54868181
Funny how Razorbacks are appearing in tournament lists and nobody has seen a Repulsor in any of them yet.

Your 300+ points tank is obsolete for the rest of the game as soon as one of my rhinos charges it. If you use it as a transport you're leaving it vulnerable to assault. If you sit it back as a gunboat you're not using it as a transport. It's also a big target that will get slagged fast against any concentrated fire from lascannons or melta drops.

Meanwhile my army of Razorbacks can throw out more firepower at a wider range and are dispersed targets all the while transporting models around and individually being relatively disposable.

Enjoy your ugly $100 plastic paper weight though.

>>54868462
The repulsor was released two weeks ago dumbshit.
It takes time.
You're a fool if you think I'd let a rhino get close enough to Assault. Everything has splitfire and it's not hard to turn a vehicle into a pool of molten metal these days.

>>54868462
Doesn't it have fly? So it's not worried about rhino's like a Land Raider is.

>>54868462
>Your 300+ points tank is obsolete for the rest of the game as soon as one of my rhinos charges it.
What? Can't a Repulsor fly? Can't it just go over the Rhino or just fly away and then unload on anything it wants?