Paizo Games General /pgg/ (also /pfg/)

>>54770531
Because Paizo are dumb.

Evidently.

The CRB is where the writing needs to be the ABSOLUTE TIGHTEST out of all books you can release, and they fucked it up, just like whoever keeps making threads keeps leaving starfinder stuff here when it's got enough material for its own thread.

>>54770531
>contradictory rules

Didn't we establish years ago that Paizo have no idea how to play their own game?

So is it just me, or do all the feats in Starfinder really suck?

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>Starfinder previews hint that the rules are more streamlined and usable
>Starfinder comes out
>literally still just Pathfinder

If anyone knows of any stupid paizo erratas concerning items BESIDES weapon cords, sleeves of garments, jingasa, bracers of falcon and QRS, tell me off them and their stats before errata. I am making a complete list of stupid paizo item erratas.

>>54770531
I'm like 80% sure she takes the cyberbarbs on regular basis.
Except they are not really a sharp barbs more of a surface bumps you can totally feel but they don't actually hurt.

>>54770531
How do you guys think Androids should be Rp'd?
There ate those who will play them like smart robots and make cheap beep boop jokes.
Then there are those who will play them like humans with a synthetic body, ghost in the Shell style.
How do I rp an Android?

Where's my Starfinder roll20 game!? Giff!

>>54770579
>So is it just me, or do all the feats in Starfinder really suck?

I'd say the feats that they translated from Pathfinder to Starfinder are better than the Pathfinder variants, and a lot of feats are pretty good. It's just it's a 3.5e variant, so a lot of shitty feats is standard.

>>54770615
Sounds like a good tiefling mutation.
I like the idea that they'd be mildly prehensile as well, or at least move reflexively of their own accord.

>>54770579
You are not alone. That ofcourse doesn't mean that you are not wrong

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>>54770531
>Paizo
>editing
>taking playtesting feedback
>knowing how their own games work
Don't ask stupid questions anon

>>54770626
The 1st groups are going to get memed on so hard

>>54770644
I see you might be wondering how I got racial +1 on Grapple, Intimidate, and Seduce...

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>>54770626
What about them?

>>54770680
Hence why I want to be in one!

What is the price formula for metamagic rods? I'm trying to figure what Ascendant Metamagic Rods cost and thinking about buying one if it's not too obnoxiously expensive. But I can't find the formula for pricing the rods.

>>54770680
>Implying RotJR hasn't already set up a Starfinder group.

How much of a dick move is it to throw stuff from other games against my pathfinder party? I remember being pissed off that a GM once threw a 4E undead dragon type thing at us while playing D20 Modern and dont want to replicate that bullshittery.

>>54770785
>>54770726
Space daddy!

>>54770814
Won't high powered space rifles make swiss cheese out of the average thing?

>>54770814
I don't see why it would be a problem as long as you respect the tone of the game you're running and also don't half-ass your conversion of the thing into PF. Why were you pissed when it happened to you?

>Mentalists's Hadbook
>They still didn't fix the issues with State of Recall still being called Zeal in the description
I knew this was going to be rough. Now to read the rest of the book

Has DSP said whether they'd do anything with Starfinder?

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>try to set up a build so it CAN grapple but that's not its main schtick
>realize that even with feat tax rules it has to be my main schtick, because it still eats up too many fucking feats otherwise
>can't branch out into other things, like intimidation or tripping, because that would require just as many, if not MORE feats

I hate this godforsaken system so much

is the starfinder crb out yet? How shit is it, on a scale of 1 being 3.0 and 10 being mythic

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Creation Handbook when?

>>54770961
It's a solid Zendikar out of Gordon Freeman.

Also 1 =/= 3

>>54770531
Well, think of how many times the core rolebook for pathfinder was reprinted. (They're on 6th reprint, I think.)

>>54770910
http://michaeliantorno.com/feat-taxes-in-pathfinder/
The intention is to use this with 6th-level-limit games, but frankly I think it would be an improvement to any game.

I swear I'd want to use so many house rules and third-party systems to make this shit work, it might as well be its own fucking CRB.

>>54770993
The Creation sphere handbook will come after the Life sphere handbook (which is next).

>>54771034
Anon, read the post. Even with feat tax rules it doesn't really help, but that's mostly because those feat tax rules only chip at the tip of the feat tax iceberg.

Meme me a meme for Starfinder!

>>54770618
Androids should be played like Bishop from Aliens.

>>54770993
"Mind is the next book to be published, and it will be 10th book (out of 20). It will be followed by Life, and then probably Creation... generally, 1 book comes out every 2 or 3 months, so it'll be a while before we're done."

So, probably expect it early next year?

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Does your character need a hug? Would they like a hug? Would you hug your character? Why would your character need a hug?

I'm gonna make a cute soldier!

>>54770889
>Why were you pissed when it happened to you?

Because he just used it as-is from the monster manual. An incorporeal creature when the party mostly has a bunch of ARs and a an LMG is not fun. Magic in D20 Modern topped out at 5th-level spells. I had levels in Mindblade, which was the soulknife equivalent except even weaker and thus was the only person that could damage the thing...for one attack per round.

>>54770840
They're going to be investigating/fighting a cult that uses strange, unknown magic. My intent was to use the Binder because I love the shit out of that class, but I've only got one player that even knows about the class, much less the book it's from. I'm not worried about balance so much as introducing something that doesnt work by the rules my players know.

>>54771082
Vesk hemipenes.

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>>54771082
Done and done.

Next in line, will you please step forward.

>>54771088
>Androids should be played like Melfina from Outlaw Star.

FTFY.

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>>54771082

Icon Mystic

>>54771137
>>54771088
Can't it be both?

>>54771103
How cute? How cute?!

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>>54771121
I am okay with this

>>54771151
No idea as I never saw any of the Alien movies except for the scene with the cargo mech.

>tfw no art of elven gun girls
Holy shit, how did I let this happen

>See a couple of nobles whipping a poor and exhausted slave kid
>Tell the man to stop
>"No, it's my slave and I do what I want"
>"What makes him your slave?"
>"I paid for him"
>"To whom?"
>"To whoever captured him"
>"Ah..."
>Punch him nonlethally
>"Now I captured you, you're my slave"
>Woman tells me that's wrong and stuff like that histerical
>"Oh, yeah, sorry"
>Throw some coins at her
>"Now I bought him too, everything is legal"
Why did my GM make me fall? I clearly was following the laws of this land

>>54771121
How can Humans even compete?

>>54771082
Anti-Commander Shepard who is as charismatic as Commander Shepard of Commander Shepard was an actual person, but is still a good soldier.

>>54771176
Mostly because your GM was probably trying to find an excuse to make you fall.

>>54771175
You should make a request on Drawthreads?

>>54771082
Current /pfg/ games all convert to Starfinder.

Cyber Dragons 1&2
Puella Digitum Daemonica
Credmaker god I wish scfi would stop calling their currencies "creds", it got old
Rise of the Jade Space Pope

>>54771082
>Icon Android Operative
>Wrist-Mounted Computer with an artificial personality that can do social stuff for them
>The android and the AI are an Idol team

>>54771176
You definitely shouldn't have fallen for doing something like that; karmic justice to reveal the evils of the world (assuming that you then released the man and had him release his own slave) is purely Good.

Did a fillable character sheet ever get created for Starfinder?

>>54771174
Bishop if fucking awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT0epw9P7-o

>>54771218
RINGMAKER

THE PARTY MUST BUILD A SOLID GOLD RINGWORLD.

Rolled 3, 2 + 2 = 7 (2d4 + 2)

>>54771082
I gotcha senpai

>>54771260
Shit son that's way better than my idea. Wouldn't gold be a terrible material to actually construct a building out of though, let alone a megastructure like a ring world?

>>54771047
Either of them any good?

>>54770909
Not directly, but PsyBomb has an interest check on MW that outright states that he's writing something and will allow it to be tested in his game once it hits beta.

You can keep your Kasatha. I want Space Elans

>>54771188
Who likes punching reporters in the face!

>>54771276
No, because you've ben order to make it gold by Iomedae, or at least gold plated, and the whole thing has to run on one of her Prayer engines

>>54771320
Why is Iomedae suddenly the patron goddess of the Blingmaker party? They aren't even all human! And wouldn't Abadar make more sense anyway? I still remember the BANKTOPOLIS meme for what their first city should be.

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>>54771218
What would you call a scifi currency, /pgg/? Most currencies are one to two syllables, with a couple of slang terms.

>>54771176
That's nothing, my entire group looked at me like I was Hitler when I told them my Pal not only had no problem with prostitution, he voted in favour of having a brothel in the city (kingmaker campaign) as long as girls weren't forced into that job and everything were under their free will

>>54771371
What was your group like? A bunch of SJWs who thought sex was evil unless they were doing it?

>>54771352
What should their first City be? What should each party member try to focus on for their districts?!?!

>>54771248
Damm I didn't remember that. It was fucking awesome.

>>54771352
Aren't even all human or all good, I mean. The necromancer is evil, but I don't remember them having anybody chaotic in their group unless Disk's PC is chaotic good?

>>54771353
Digits, in reference to the digits of one's bank account. Or whatever, I dunno, I'm just tired of it being credits.

>>54771353

Slides

"50 slides plus the enterance fee and you can use the backdoor to get in.

>>54771260
>>54771276
What if the party is chartered by Rostland to explore uncharted space nearby, where a gold-dense nebula has mysteriously appeared?

The party might find the gas cloud being made by a solid gold star, or a technomagical gas-to-gold machine called the Philosopher's Station!

>>54771353
Bytes, with Kilobytes and Megabytes being exactly what you think they are.

>>54771353
units

>>54771353

Blargabucks. Three speekles is a blargabuck, two niptips is a speekle, and four hundred hackbacks is a niptip. Hackbacks are typically fused together into hundred hack-lumps for ease of use, but there is still a vocal political movement for their abolishment as a currency. However, the government is loathe to go through all the work required just to remove them from circulation.

>>54771353
Bit coins.

>>54771446
A gold star? Anon, those are only stickers, they aren't real. So it must be a magic gold star.

But that's assuming Rostland and Issia still exist by the time Starfinder happens. They've probably had their civil war by then and only one remains. Or Choral showed up and cleaned everything up on both sides of the fence.

>>54771353
CCs if you want to maintain the Credit thing, short for Crypto Coins

>>54771353
Double Dollars

>>54771468
Times 1000 or times 1024?

>>54771530
1024

>>54771402
Blade Runner is another great movie about androids, if you've never seen it.

>>54771353
A while back I was pondering what a copper/silver/gold currency would progress to once it went modern/scifi.

And it occurred to me. It doesn't necessarily even need to change.

I mean gold's not even commonly used in business transactions anyway. So what's the step down? Silver. Then people's credit cards would be silver. Or gold if you're some bigshot moneyed fucko

It's funny how it works out. $ is for $ilver. ¢ is for ¢opper. And there'd presumably be a similar one for gold, but it and possibly copper have deprecated due to everyone just using $ilver now. Y'know, sort of like how the japanese Yen is actually the highest denomination of currency, but it's depreciated to the point that nobody uses Sen (100th of a yen) or Rin (10th of a Sen) anymore.

So in answer to the question, just call it Silver.

>>54771504
It's sci-fi bruh, don't gotta follow canon.

>>54771549
There was like what? 5 Androids in the whole movie?

Oh wait, it's 6 now.

>>54771549
>>54771088
>>54771137

Ty for the inspiration anons

>>54771121
Funny thing about hemipenes, the same structures in males are present in females but only smaller. Vesk women have two clits.

>>54771642
Yeah, but the entire movie is about them. And looking at Starfinder Androids, they are heavily, heavily influenced by Blade Runner. (Well, as is most media about near-perfectly-humanoid robots.)

>>54771642
FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU--

>>54771660
Shit, it's just a chance to watch scenes from some of my favorite movies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umc9ezAyJv0

An idea I just had.

>start a niche game
>make a sock puppet to post first app that matches your expectations exactly

>>54771706
That

Might actually be a good idea, holy shit.

>>54771710
>>54771706

But why?

Why not just make the app as the GM, so people are sure that's what you want?

>>54771706

Why not have a "game" where people are just messing around with chargen without being committed to a compaign?

>>54771642
Do replicants dream of epic retweets?

IS there a intraweb in sf, and if so do the gods post on it?

>>54771748
Why not just start posting NPCs they party will encounter, written like apps?

>>54771748
But then how will you use the sock puppet to shill your game and inflate perceived interest?

>>54771748
to make the bamboozle all the sweeter

>>54771353
Wulongs.

>>54771766
I want to follow Abadar's twitter

>>54771766
>>54771818
I want to subscribe to an Arshean's instagram.

>>54771218
>Dragons 2
>Space Awoo
>WOLVES in SPACE
>SPACE WOLVES

Rory confirmed primarch

>>54771082
A redheaded sexbot sexpot with a flamethrower and pre-programmed lewd commands

>>54771766
I want to pirate GodTube and live stream it 24/7.

>>54771399
They should have a castle and build outwards from there

What sites are there on Starfinder's internet?

What embarassing secret of your character's will be revealed via the internet?

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back to the future rules or terminator rules for time travel?

My players are going to venture into an area of unstable time and meet refuges from a catastrophe that hasn't happened yet. Do I give them a chance to stop it from happening, or does stopping it just pave the way for a different kind of disaster?

>>54771399
First city in this new kingdom must be built on the ruins of their enemy's fort! To show them all that you're the new bosses in town!

>>54771353
Dogecredits

>>54771353
Moe-Neigh

>>54772010
He thinks there's a conspiracy to hide the fact that the universe is actually flat.

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>>54772010
Visual novel appreciation websites
An addiction to visual novels

>>54772010
Their version of /pol/ which is an entire website alone where worshipers of Asmodeus and the Devourer go to shill their religion and call the core 20 gods whores and Goblins.

>>54772108
>not Moe-nee
Fucking scum.

>>54772140
>Shirren art
>Its adorable
I NEED MORE! THIS IS WHAT KEEPS ME ALIVE!

>>54771353
Brozouf

>>54772169
I was going for a mon-keigh reference, you heretic

>>54771218
>Puella Digitum Daemonica
Sounds like the hit VR game of the year to me.

>>54772025
>>54771943
I want a castle! I want a castle real bad!

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>>54772188
my nigga

>>54772167
>Asmodeus and the Devourerer
>getting along
If Asmo was such an integral enemy of Rovagug, what makes you think he's allow his worshipers to associate with Space Rovagug?

>>54772223
Why do you think republicans and nazis get along in /pol/?

Starfinder needs more kinky interracial.

The world needs more blonde white women with buff black adonises!

>>54772010
That he's actually an upper crust kid from Absalom Station, who's not "The humpin'est v'logger in the core" and certainly not a hero or "badass 'xeno fucker"

>>54772204
Will the castle have machicolations?

>>54772242
Because those "Republicans" are actually Dixiecrats who decided to play hotpotato with the parties after the Democrats started getting in bed with the Soviets?

What would your reaction if a player describe his character with blue lips?

>>54772266
>I, too, saw the Dungeons & Dragons movie.

>>54771660
Reminder that androids are supposed to have similar intelligence to humans, a soul and also DO NOT have speech impediments or any of those *beep boop* meme shit, unless your specific character does for some reason.

>>54772261
>Democrats started getting in bed with the Soviets
Wot?

>>54772266
Depends on their race. If its a Tiefling, Dhampir, Drow, or something like that, I'd have no problem

>>54772266
Ask how the other players react when they realize that the person is suffocating.

>>54772261
Of course it will! Why wouldn't the castle have such defenses?

>>54772286
Then why be androids at all and not cyborg humans?

>>54772289
In 1983, Ted Kennedy had secret correspondence with the Soviet union, and attempted to collude with them

>>54772385
Isn't he the one that murdered that girl?

Man, fuck the Kennedys. They were political sleazeballs and only beloved by the media.

>>54772385
>Dixiecrats started jumping in the 50s and 60s
>Somehow blamed on Kennedy, when the information didn't come to light until the 90s
>Dixiecrats left because of the commies.

Hmmmmmm.....

>>54772322
Youd be surprised how very few castles in fantasy settings have proper machicolations. Heck, many of them lack even proper Quarbles

>>54772453
Except the full jump by the Dixiecrats into the Republican Party wasn't substantiate in any way until the 70s, due to Nixon's Southern Strategy, which was then later expanded and completed by Reagan

This is not /pol/, not is it the place for politics, unless said politics related to the governing bodies of various fantasy countries.

>>54772547
Black People are the future of fantasy.

>>54772556
It's more that fantasy is the only place where they have a future, but sure.

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>>54772547
IOMEDAE CAUSED THE GAP!
GOLARION WAS AN INSIDE JOB!
TRIUNE IS TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE MULTIVERSE!
THE ANUNAKI ARE BEHIND EVERYTHING!

WAKE UP PEOPLE!

>>54771064
I read the post. And I've read Hearth & Blade's feat tax rules. Are those the actual feat tax rules you're using? I'd concede that it doesn't go far enough in some respects or at least doesn't have the necessary breadth, but even then you should save several feats. It depends at what level you're trying to get everything going, but by 5th level or so, there's no reason you shouldn't be proficient in all three of those things, without a particular specialty yet.

But then, the real problem with grappling and tripping and intimidation aren't the feats to make them function; it's that no number of feats will make them work against a vast array of enemies. That's a much bigger system problem.

>>54772547
What about a discussion on the systems of governance in fantasy or sci-fi? I'll start with a question then.

Do you think we could feasibly have an absolute monarchy in a space age sci-fi setting, especially one that has seen democracy before and has fast means of communication and information access?

>>54772581
Considering the demographic shifts going on in the World, they're the future here too.

Whitey needs to accept their time is over.

>>54770618
The way that you like best.

They can also be played as Bladerunner replicants, bioroids in the Appleseed series (which is literally what they are), the Gen-Perfect in GATTACA, or even the Dolls of DollHouse.

>>54772322
I just hope it has something like a well-stocked library or a nice big garden.

>>54771098
Yes.
No.
Excitable people with no sense of personal space.
Because she's lonely and afraid and terrified of what might happen if she is not alone.

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>>54772609
Only if said Monarchy had th means, intellect, and capability to properly run a intergalactic government for a long period of time, meaning the only way it could work would be through some kind of expansive God-Machine King capable of having perfect understanding of all aspects and districts of its nation, and is morally neutral and detached enough that it would actually be able to act and control a centrally powered government.

Such a being would ultimately be inhuman in terms of comprehension and scope of mind, which may create some contention in being ruled by it, as well as making i dificult to properly create, as any such entity would have to not be born of mortal hands in any degree of its creation, less it be affected by the imperfection of mortal design, intent, and understanding

>>54772624
>GATTACA
My nigga

>>54772612
>>54772581
>>54772556
Fuck off back to /pol/, assholes.

>>54772657
>You will never have a romp in the garden

>>54771175
I am enjoying the elven soldier ladies with their mithra companions from ages ago.

>>54772700
>Dubs confirm your statement
NOOOOOOO!

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>>54772682
>He doubts that our kaiser's conquest is the sea of stars.
Get out of here, you mongrel.

>>54772713
Hey, you could still have a filthy quickie in the library!

>>54772337
If they didn't resemble humans then they would be just generic robots

>>54772738
Pretty sure you won't do that either

>>54772739
>has a soul

>>54772757
Does this unit have a soul?

>>54772453
>>54772503
>>54772385
>>54772289
>>54772261
FUCK OFF.

>>54772738
Maybe...

>>54772745
...but if not, there's always plenty of other places. Just hopefully not the privy.

>>54772606
Except in Starfinder you are much much more likely to be facing humanoid opponents than not, unlike PF.

>>54772780
Legion was too pure for this world

>>54772682
Luckily, there are augments for computer assisted mentality.

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>>54772780
Finally, an excuse to post this.

>>54772797
Tell us some of the more unusual locations you want to have a quick little encounter with your partner!

>>54772606
It's saving quite a few feats, but there's still a lot of things that get choked on. Perhaps that's mostly a function of me having too high expectations and not dialing back down since every time someone says "Oh you're doing X thing? Take THESE feats!". IE: A grappler NEEDS all these other things in addition to Greater Grappler, and Intimidator NEEDS these five feats, a tripper NEEDS these other feats. I guess given how I automatically get everything I need to properly be a 2H fighter I shouldn't worry about effectiveness, it's just frustrating.

It doesn't help that I have <13 Dex, and therefore HAVE to take dirty fighting to qualify for feats even with Combat Stamina, and need like, 3 other feats to cover my ass on certain things via AWT's.

>>54772835
>Throne room
>Baths
>Alchemy lab
>Scriptorium
>"Dungeon"
>ACTUAL dungeon
>Treasury, on top of a pile of coins
>Bedrooms (if you want to be boring)
>NOT the stables (don't want the horses judging you)

>>54772878
>>the horses judging you
>You call that a dick?

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When do you think we'll have our first /sfg/ meme game and which celebs do you think will get the spots?

>>54772878

>not fucking in the treehouse of a simulated jungle biome while techno-dinosaurs and laser raptors are on the prowl

Live dangerous or don't live at all.

>>54772700
I did. Delicate changeling Summoner in asmodeus' Revenge campaign and the strong warrior lady she dominated using her humanoid Eidolon. It was a lovely garden. Rose branches make lovely scourges.

>>54772757
Haven't even played a game yet and already hate all droid sympathizers. Shouldn't they be mining or picking cotton for the real biological organisms?

>>54772878
Why would the horses judge you? Only a Tiefling could approach the absurdity of their organs!

>>54772903
Anon, please, I was asked for UNUSUAL locations. You're suggesting the mundane.

>>54772934
That's literally how the Azlanti Star Empire views it, their massive Android population are seen as particularly smart robots, rather than soul-bearing humanoids.

>>54772588
There are actual Sheeple. You can say Sheeple without worry.

>Iomedae caused the Gap
I'm going to run with that. There's just so much Intrigue you can build with that one sentence alone.

>>54772942
Oh, I don't expect they'd be so unkind as to judge one's endowment. Just that they'd judge you for making noise and keeping them up.

My lover is the only one I want to deny a chance to sleep.

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>>54772947

Oh, my apologies then.

What about the combined psychic dream state of an alien species interested in observing the mating rituals of beings who still possess bodies?

>>54772947
But you listed bedrooms! Are you saying you don't normally do it on a proper bed?

Fuck, now that I say it I realize most of my own PMs occur away from a bed.

>>54772985
Same feat progression as Pathfinder, dontcha worry. I don't have an exact page for you to look at, but I remember reading that.

>>54772970
How dare you besmirch the good name of that fine race! I was trying to avoid just that, but I guess a racist like you won't be satisfied!

>>54772985

Nevermind, finally found the page, feats are still every odd level. Don't know how I missed that.

>>54772898
people that are friends with IKiD and Protagonist. that's the current 'in' crowd

>>54772984
Beds and bedrolls are just fine, don't get me wrong--but it's not nearly as rewarding to describe the sights and sounds of a bedroom compared to literally anywhere else; a cave, a sylvan glade, the back of an exotic mount, etc.

>>54773002
Speciest is the word you want.

Isn't Raciat what you use for all the Human half-breeds?

>>54772898
>Celebs
I'm New to /pfg/ but why is this a thing

>>54773118
shitposters won't let the subject get dropped, and feel the need to constantly act like we care about the celebs when that shit should stay in the discord where it belongs.

>>54773118
Basically the act of promoting and discussing Roll20 games ended up giving rise to a new breed of namefag.

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>>54773156
>>54773149
Ok, pardon my ignorance.

>>54773044
I hope your lover's up to snuff! She sounds like a really lucky woman!

>>54773200
I consider myself to be the lucky one
I'd say they are, at that.

So has anyone seen the Elemental Masters handbook that is coming out next week yet?

>>54772898
>which celebs do you think will get the spots?
That depends entirely on who runs the game, since celebs aren't universal like the thread pretends, but rather members of distinct cliques that shill for one another.

If it's run by one of the discord fags, you'll get people like Wist, IKiD, Protag and Kawase felating one another over how great and unique these boilerplate characters are. If it's one of the RotJR whores Slow, Disk, Sappy and Sleep will be tripping over each other to scream about how well written their characters are. If Vult is running it you'll get nothing but "confirmed" female players lining up for a shitty rape game. If Rory runs it, it'll be a bamboozle.

>>54773242
You should PM THEM.

Is anybody else thinking about copying and pasting characters from farscape as a cameo in their game?

>>54773288
But aren't Slow and Disk in with IKiD and Protag?

>>54773288
>and Sleep will be tripping over each other to scream about how well written their characters are
>Sleep
He'll just be whining about how he's not good enough and start fishing for praise or trying to focus group his character. Apart from Kyras, he didn't self-shill much.

>>54773309
I'll take it under advisement[/Hans Gruber]

>>54773376
You should shoot the glass

>>54773328
Yeah

>>54773328
Disk is in with IKiD and Protag. Slow is only in with IKiD.

>>54773288
What if IDrive runs it

>>54773288
>Sleep
>Not SwimmingEagle
:thinking:

>>54773445
Then he'll also make all the characters and then also sink the game a few sessions in.

Can someone give me pages 002-003 and 012-013?

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>>54773549
Dunno about 002-003

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My buddy is introducing his 9-year-old sister to the game and I'm kind of lost. I normally put a lot of work into my characters and their stories, but I don't see the point if it's probably going to be a sillier sort of game.

What sort of character would you build for a campaign you know won't be too serious?

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>>54773583
Space!Ameiko's ass remains amazing.

>>54773583
THE BOOTY

>>54773583
Thanks literally only missing 002-003 now haha

>>54773606
>>54773610
It is a nice ass, yes, but every time I look at that page, it has me thinking of Mass Effect Andromeda concept art.

>>54773288
>If Vult is running it you'll get nothing but "confirmed" female players lining up for a shitty rape game
No one knew Ikid and Nameless Fairy or whoever lysander is were girls before PLD

You are posting disgruntled revisionism.

>>54773604

Depends, what were you going for initially?

>>54773604
You clearly haven't played many games with children. A lot of the time, they're more serious than teenagers, who tend to focus on jokes, sex, and similarly "amusing" things. A kid of nine years old is primarily influenced on fantasy by Disney films and any books their parents have given to them.

Keep adult themes out of the game, but otherwise run normally and you should be fine.

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Well, having looked at the Mentalist Handbook, I must says its actually kinda okay, even if their crappy editing caused the new PrC to be trash.

Also, Embodiment is a really cool Boon, and could allow for some interesting builds and concepts. Like a Dwavern cleric who is on all levels except the physical a rock. Also, Virtuoso is now just about mandatory for every Skilled Caster build.

There's also some talents and options for less-mindrapy mind powers if you're someone like me who normally finds mind-control magic to be amoral and reprehensible

>>54773631
I'm not convinced Lysander or IKiD are even girls.

>>54773604

You asked this in the 5e thread, you duplicitous dink. I bet your buddy doesn't even HAVE a nine-year-old sister.

>>54773635
I hadn't come up with a plan yet.

>>54773643
>You clearly haven't played many games with children.
You caught me.

>>54773671
We're playing 5e but pfg usually has better advice as far as roleplaying is concerned.

>>54772875
MAD is definitely a problem with combat feats, that's true.

As for all those different recommendations, those are all for different characters specializing in different things. If you want to specialize in any one of those things, that's fine, but if you want to be able to do all three in some capacity, what you "need" to do to make your build feel cohesive is find ways tie them all together.

Your niche is definitely going to be humanoid enemies, there's no way around that. Investing even a little into nonlethal options can go a long way, and it's easy to do with grappling and tripping. The Enforcer feat will let you intimidate as a free action whenever you deal nonlethal damage, making it something you're likely to do constantly. Now even if you aren't specialized in intimidating, you waste no actions with demoralizing; it's just something you do while pummeling enemies.

>>54773288
>Rory
>bamboozle

okay yeah it still kinda stings

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>>54773618

>>54773703
Honestly, the advice to watch some Disney movies is a good one.

Focus on bringing out the positive aspects of the characters, rather than causing them to suffer. Even the more morally complex fairy tales are still, at their core, about a heroic person doing something heroic, aided by some virtue.

>>54773831
It was obvious from the start, anon. Shame on you if you fell for it.

>>54773288
We all know Slow's characters are torn from the pages of GoT, where do we think he'd take his starfinder characters from?

>>54773894
Hey, this is really good advice. Haven't name-posted here in a while (since a couple of my players confirmed lurking), but I just got done running my Zootopia game. Kids 8-12 were some of the best players I've EVER had. Both serious about their RP and ludicrously creative problem-solvers.

Seriously, didn't expect four out of six party members to have nets when I sent birds after them.

>>54773895
I still want Sargavan adventures

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>>54773936
Don't we all?

>>54773913
>Implying he won't just make sci-fi versions of GoT characters

>>54773991
CHOCOLATE

>>54770531
>starships are mere objects to shoot at and also cannot aim back at people

oh that's genius. way to go paizo. anyone will be able to gun down a ship in EVA.

>>54774039
High-level heroes shooting down fighters or figuring out a clever way to take down a gunship isn't unheard of in fiction.

>>54773935
Oh totally.

I love running for kids; if they have the attention span for it, they're fantastic players.

>>54774039
Realistically (I know, I know), a spaceship CAN'T aim at people. Unless you have independently motorized and self aiming gun systems, ships are simply too big an object to aim at something as small as a person with any degree of accuracy. It would be like aiming a tank at a person, except the turret would be fixed in a single position instead of mobile. By the time you have the shot, they've left.

Also, remember objects take half fdamage from energy and hardness cannot be bypassed without a lot of weird shit.

>>54774087
Point defense weapons do exist though. It's not hard for them to make the leap to space

>>54773863
Well, now I feel silly. I have that saved as "Table of Contents" because there's no actual page numbers at the bottom.

>>54774052
The issue here is that it is pathetically easy to destroy objects.

Also, apparently, shooting something the size of a large missile from fifty feet away with weapons accurate enough to do the same 20 hexes away for a high level hero IS unheard of in fiction if the hero's a mere pilot.

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I wanna play a big titty muscular punchgirl in a game, what are my options

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>>54773792
The character is for Ironfang Invasion, so I sort of ASSUMED that humanoids would be common enough as to make it worthwhile. At this point I'm just compiling lists of relevant feats in each category, though. Enforcer was in there, but trying to consistently do nonlethal is dubious, as the intent was to mostly fight with Heavy Blades, then abuse the old version of Lore Warden for its fat CMB to keep my options open so I can go from "kill the dude" to something like "slam the dude face-first into the dirt and call him a pussy shit". Kinda wish the trait for dealing nonlethal with bladed weapons wasn't Sarenrae-only, despite the trait for SCIMITARS being a general combat trait for some asinine reason.

Offhand, would be an (Old Lore Warden) Fighter gestalted with a (Sanctified Slayer/Ravener Hunter) Inquisitor, where Ravener Hunter actually converts Inquisitor to be Cha-based. I guess I could just be a Sarenraenite for the trait, it's not like my group has the stigma /pfg/ has for her.

>>54774168
I'd suggest waiting for the first major Starfinder campaign, assuming you're willing to play a big titty muscular punchgirl in tight bodysuits or heavy armor.

Okay, I've made my Roll20 Starfinder game, uploaded the maps and the tokens and the like.

But... I'm not a plus/pro subscriber, so this means I can't show the page to anyone unless I send an invite to their Roll20 accounts? Is this right?

>>54774206
Correct.

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>>54774188
Yes please. Give me the big titty punch girls in improbably form-fitting heavy armor that accentuates their chest and hips

>A zen archer cannot use Rapid Shot or Manyshot when making a flurry of blows with his bow.
Why do they gain those feats then??

>>54774211
Hrm, but, can I list the game as Looking For Players and now people can see it?

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How do? Starfinder or Pathfinder.

>>54774248
That depends on how you plan to emulate Doomguy. Do you consider Berserker Packs to be an inherent skill? Do you want to use a chainsaw, or a shotgun, or just weapons in general?

>>54773913
Battlestar Galactica

>>54774260
Yes.

>>54774232
Yep.

>>54770531
Hey leakanon, if you're out there, would you happen to have the first AP as well?

>>54774248
>>54774260
>this is a single use of mythic rage.

>>54774248
WotR as a Savage Technologist. You're even close to Numeria if you want cyberdemons to become a thing

question about repairing drones: how? it's not explicitly stated. if you use the engineering skill, what's the DC? there is a mechanic trick that lets you repair 25% hp instead of 10% hp, but doesn't say where that 10% number came from

>>54772609
Easily.

Monarchy solves three major problems in democracy. It speeds up short-term decision making and has a longer POV for long-term planning. Also, because they actually own the government, the people in power see the nation as capital to be hoarded and upgraded instead of consumable resources that need to be expended before term limits hit.

>perfect strike has improved unarmed strike as requirement
>can't be used with unarmed attacks
bravissima

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Aside from Sharding quality, what other feature and weapon qualities should I have to make the Moonlight Greatsword? I'm trying to make it somewhat comprehensive across the various versions of it, so I need advice on what other enchantments and qualities would be needed to make it a proper Moonlight Greatsword worthy of its name

>>54774394
In addition to this, in a fantasy setting it's much more conceivable that a single person, at some point, got personally powerful enough to carve out a kingdom. Assuming the kingdom was successful under their rule, the descendants inherit both personal power and position. Give it a few good monarchs and even one or two bad ones won't break the chain.

>>54774492
It would probably also need to be a two-handed artifact weapon that adds your Intelligence modifier instead of your Strength or Dexterity modifier to Attack/Damage rolls.

Monstrous Humanoids that are physically monstrous or "Monstrous" Humanoids that are physically cute, /pgg/?

>>54774052
>>54774039
Much bigger problem that I can see:

Those weapons can't be upgraded. Defenses can get better with BP and PCU, but weapons can't. You're also highly restricted mount-wise (two lights, even after upgrades, on anything below medium for example) unless you go big.

The APL system and upgrade rules lock out doing something like a squadron of pilots right from start to finish, and even for large vessels, as levels go up, fights will get increasingly long as HP, shields and defenses go up, but weapon damage stays the same. That also means slower crit production too.

>>54774564
Physically Monstrous, otherwise they'd just be humanoids

>>54774564
The cutest you'd get from a monstrous humanoid is probably going to be a minotaur or a hag.

>>54774578
>>54774581
I'd ask "what about creatures that are so cute it's monstrous" but then I just realized that's basically just some variants of Fey.

>>54774600
Trolls can be, depending on the artist.
Like, 3.5 trolls had those silly long noses.

>>54774581
>>54774600
Changelings.

>>54774651
Changelings are still humanoids, though.

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I asked a while back, but how does a Brutal Slayer's Muscle Memory interact with his CMD? Oracle's Cha-to-AC set the precedent for Dex replacers to also affect CMD, but you wouldn't be adding your Str mod twice, right? You'd be just adding Strength and then treat the "other modifier" as +0? Or is this some bizarro case like where there are people insisting an Oracle/Scaled Fist monk multiclass can "totally apply Cha-to-AC twice"?

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For anyone who needs it, I combined all the things into one pdf :3

https://www.scribd.com/document/355843790/Starfinder-Core-Rulebook?secret_password=HWFpmzN77ssYlTwhmk2W

Now we can all make envoys.

>>54774692
I wouldn't allow it twice, personally.

>>54774692
It doesn't interact because it's not added as a Dodge bonus, but is in fact replacing dex to AC. Adding extra dex to AC doesn't, by itself, affect CMD. Rather the increase of Dex also increases CMD, that's all.

>>54774816
mega link pls?

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Is there any fun to be had when playing with Soul Gems? Or are their only purpose for crafting/selling and as fast healing potions.

Reminder you can run characters dressed up in fantasy grabs in Starfinder, not only just in corporate wears and clothes out of a garbage dump.

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>>54774856
>>54774900
Actually, upon further inspection, I have realized I misread the Oracle revelations and have in fact answered my own question. Two of the revelations (the ones for Lore and Lunar) add Cha-to-AC and Reflex (with a FAQ on Lore specifically denying CMD), but Nature's revelation meanwhile adds Cha-to-AC and CMD (but NOT reflex). I find myself left disappointed, yet like I really should have seen this garbage coming a mile away. While my GM would probably say "yea fuck that noise it works for all three", the fact that that's not how it works by default leaves me disappointed.

Even as a Dexfag, I find myself hating Dex more and more for stealing things and refusing to be replaced.

>>54774928
When's my Rogue Galaxy campaign?

>>54774816
>scribd

I too enjoy paying for access to pirated pdfs

>>54775025
just sign in faggot

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>>54774928
I need some good casual garb for Starfinder characters!

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>>54775062

Here you go

>>54774575
Can't you enchant or fusion them at least? surely there's going to be feats or something too. I mean for 20 PCU and 10BP you can upgrade shields from 80 to 200. Even at low levels you get 20 or 30 build points per tier. There's no size limit there either so those are going to be some tough as fuck shuttles.

What about going around things with the antipersonnel mount? They clearly stated you can shoot a ship as though it were an object, so the AP mount which is apparently completely controllable as to what it picks and aims at should be able to aim that way manually right? Heavy weapons at high tier, even with the "it's an object here's hardness" penalty are probably going to do a better job in which case you can relegate your mounts to nuclear missiles.

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>>54775062

>>54775059
Document is marked as private faggot.

>>54775090

Not sure if a half-Inverness cape worn over what's apparently body armor is very casual

>>54775090
That's not casual wear, that's not casual wear at all!

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>>54775131
>>54775134

It's the future, you never know when shit's going to go done.

>>54775107
it's only private if you don't have use the private link after signing in

jesus christ you faggots are such whiners, how do you cope with daily life?

>>54775090
If she showed up for a date dressed like that, I'd start saving up for a ring.

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>>54775062

>>54775107
link isn't

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What varieties of of chain breastaurant does the starfinder setting have?

>>54775162
if you uploaded it on a not-shit site to begin with, there'd be nothing to complain about

>>54775059
>stop being a faggot and give your credit card details to a shitty subscription whoring website
You're right, this is much better than using one of the many free options for file sharing we already have.

>>54775346
I'm sure you could find a few topless restaurants on Triaxus or that tidal-locked world, but it seems kind of tacky (at best) on most others.

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>>54775062

>>54775162
I'll be honest I didn't know this was an option and thought the whole site was locked behind paywall instead of just most of it.

>>54775347
>>54775360

not my link, but you faggots are being such entitled pricks for something you're getting for free

>>54775387
fair-play, made the same mistake for a second

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>>54775346

I'm sure the Diasopora would have all variety of adult oriented resturants available

>>54775362

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Alright-

I'm recruiting for a text-only Starfinder oneshot (hopefully only one session) to be played through Roll20 next week, 6pm Tuesday EST. There's a small amount of wiggle-room on starting day and time.

Those interested, please reply with your roll20 profiles or go to the discord below and the 'session-beta' channel to chat.

discord.gg/YAk263j

Please note I haven't used Roll20 for three years and SF is a new system, so things could be a bit rocky, but I think a session can still go well and we can have some fun.

I'm expecting some interested parties to decline due to the starting time or not being able to build a sheet by game start, so I'm inviting everyone who sends me their profile name, and after some talk I'll work out who's in.

>>54775210
we can't download if you don't mark it as public.

>>54775530
hold up, never mind, i'm retarded seriously autistic

What's the release schedule looking like for future Starfinder books?
>And bets on them sticking to it.

>>54775593
They confirmed ages ago that we're getting less releases than Pathfinder, so expect books every other month or so.

>>54775494
>Arkwright

I was so excited...

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https://www.scribd.com/document/355843790/Starfinder-Core-Rulebook

here's a public version, sorry > <

Made the link as private so it wouldn't get taken down

I can't use mega, but if someone else could upload the pdf to mega that would be great.

>>54775605
Every other month was more often that I was expecting, so I'll take it, if they can manage it.

>>54775614
it's a oneshot, how bad could I possibly be?

Anyone have pages 78-79? Seems that it was missing from Leakanon's dump.

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>>54775668

>>54775494
Fuck off, Arkwright.

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>>54775090
Why is she wearing high heels?

>>54775632
>>54775668
https://mega.nz/#!UGgxHQgA!ejdZKrZe56bkFriGJnFhastUC5u7f5E7Z_CCH1AnTmo

>>54775700
removed

>>54775699
To make it easier to walk through all the blood she's about to spill.

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How would I run a super pure romance game intent on shipping player characters without anyone catching on?

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Gentlemen, I've decided I'll be running a Hell's Rebels game for my friends. It will be my first time GMing, though I've been a player and theorycrafter for a good while now, so hopefully I'll do okay with a Publish AP. I also know HR is infamously shiftily written and retarded, so I'm going to take a long and hard look at it and change things around as needed, as well as giving NPCs some reworks with 3pp content since that's what most people in the group are used to using now.

So, do y'all have any advice for a 1st time GM? Perhaps some advice maybe for running this AP in particular? I'm honestly kinda nervous and am unsure if I'll even be any good at GMing.

>>54775716
>>54775632
>>54775668
I'm uploading it to a Russian file sharing website where it likely won't get taken down.
Give me a bit, this is slow.

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>>54775699

>>54775673
Thanks a bunch

>>54775745
Without anyone catching on? Almost impossible. That said, you have very good taste in manga, so running a game with these sorts of themes in mind would be pretty cool if you, say, mixed it with a very Konosuba-esque setting where everyone is a super weirdo.

>>54775755
>>54775668
>>54775632
>>54775716
>>54775779
Okay I finally uploaded it here it is: http://zalil.su/3875211
Avoid the ads if you don't have an adblock, though, there were a few fake download button ads there when I briefly checked without adblock.

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>>54775857

Thanks Anon

>>54775887
Why are you envoy-chan? Do you like get bullied?

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>>54775928
Cuz my life is shit-tier. And yes, I get bullied a lot.

I'm also playing an envoy with a maxed out Profession(Guitar Player) build. Played our first SF session today.

>>54776025
Is it as bad as it looks?

>>54776025
And how did things play out?

So Paizo has expressed interest in making it possible for as many non-humanoid species as possible to be playable, am I the only one that hopes that this could mean the first instance of officially supported Dragon PC chargen?

>>54776091
Please god no. Vorefags and furries can go elsewhere.

>>54776091
That's bottom of the barrel for the possibilities you should be thinking of. You could be an AI in any kind of thing. A ship AI is nearly a staple of the genre, for instance - why not play that? And you send out largely disposable cargo-handler machines to join the party where you can't reach.

>>54776109
Literally what do vorefags have to do with this? Furries I'll half grant you but even then Dragons are popular with literally everyone, but I think it says more about your priorities than anyone else's that that's immediately where your mind went.

>>54776083
>>54776086

it's not so glaring at level 1, we had a soldier, technomancer, and mechanic. And I got to be party face.

it was pretty fun, we were all in a detention facility and escaped during a Swarm attack.

We're now running for our life in a stolen ship with a not-zerg swarm behind us, and the mechanic is helping me craft a blaster/guitar hybrid weapon.

>>54776163
>it's not so glaring at level 1

Envoys are at their worst at level 1, more so than anyone else.

>>54776156
Ungermaw. It's been disturbingly popular around here.

>>54776177
I mean considering that he literally played as one and said it was fine I'm more inclined to believe him over you.

>>54776163
Interesting. I've been split between a Solarian, Soldier, or Technomancer for my first character, more towards Solarian than anything else.

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>>54776177
pretty sure it can get worst lol

>>54776204
>I mean considering that he literally played as one and said it was fine

You can play a kineticist and think it's fine based on anecdotal luck.

>>54776215
Don't play solarian. It's a trap class.

New thread

>>54776270
>>54776270
>>54776270
>>54776270
>>54776270

>>54776259
Well, I could be considering an Envoy, but let's not go there.

>>54776215
>solarian
Fellow low-tier class! You should join us. We'll have mediocre spess adventures together

>>54776255
its not a secret the envoy is a weak class, but the world doesn't end if somebody plays one

>>54776255
You say that but certain builds of kineticist can be very good at defensive capabilities (which despite the memes a good defense isn't always just running up and killing the enemy dead with 500 damage when you're in a real combat scenario) as well as providing decent utility with things like their "I can lift hundreds of pounds of raw material, thousands if I accept a point of burn" ability.

Of course, none of that means that they're a super strong class, but it's not luck to say that they can be anecdotally useful.

>>54775745
sauce on the manga?

>>54776356
Tsundere Children, there's also an anime adaptation of it that you can watch on Crunchyroll.

>>54776356
Tsurezure Children. Don't watch the anime.

>>54774039
I believe you misunderstand, they can fire back, but they just create a zone of death. Also they deal 10x damage so the cheapest ship weapon does 20d4 damage in an area. Also because they deal 10x damage that means their health and shields would be 10x the listed amount and have hardness. Sure you could sabotage a ship with explosives or something if you're sneaky, but remember that ships can have defence systems and AI.

>>54774575
You can link weapons together to fire with one action, so the damage keeps up fine. Also the math for Attack vs AC or TC means you should almost always hit at higher levels. Listed below in building encounters for starship combat there is a section which explicitly allows you to have a squadron of fighters. You could balance it(based on the rules) by having everyone have their own ship with an APL of their character level-1 tier for each ship past the first(so 4 level 1 characters would each have tier 1/4 ships).This doesn't work at higher levels though unless you have two people in a medium or larger vessel and the others in fighters because of the fact that you cannot mount heavy weapons on small vessels. Though if you have a ship with capital weapons and some fighters you will destroy a medium ship if they don't run(as it should be)
You could remedy this problem with a simple rule: Ships two sizes smaller may occupy the same hex as a ship, and if they do so the larger ship may only target that ship with light weapons that are mounted on a turret as no other weapon can maneuver with enough speed to get a shot. Hopefully they'll add something like that later on as a stunt or feat, if they do then everything will be great.