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Second Chances Edition

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RESOURCES

>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
http://www.mtgcommander.net

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net

>Namefag bitchfest, but People often make primers, which go into detail about how they built and play their deck.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity.
http://manabasecrafter.com/

CARD SEARCH

>Official search site. Current for all sets.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/

>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface.
http://magiccards.info/

Thread Question:
SPOILERS ARE NOW! What do you think?
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>>54746204
Hungry Lynx Master Race
Marrow-Gnawer Fags BTFO
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>>54746204
Any good cards to go along with this? Should I just build voltron?
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>What do you like about black anon?

It has scary-looking monsters
I really don't like horror movies and I hate jump scares
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>>54746231
Would Doomblade into Leyline of the Void/10
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>>54746204
>new Mirri is just dumb voltron bait

These people literally spend the majority of their lives thinking of cards and this is the best they can come up with.
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>>54746231
>Marrow-Gnawer Fags BTFO
"Take all the counters you want, it won't matter against my Grave Pact and Smokestack" - Marrow Gnawer

"Fracturing Gust." - Cat Player
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>>54746231
this makes me very happy. Its so fucking flavorful

Also here's a rules confusion for those who like blinking creatures
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>>54746262
I tap a forest and cast Avoid Fate in response
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>>54746268
I see it as an addition to GW stax lists that don't want to be attacked. Will be running in my Selvala list
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>>54746204
A reprint, but it gains a new border
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>>54746268
>Dumb Voltron Bait
>When she supports any sort of turning creatures sideways, arguably getting "go wide" across even better than voltron, and applies an even harsher crawlspace effect while tapped no matter how you tapped her

Inb4 Mirri Convoke Tokens.
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>>54746283
The only way I can see this not ending in physical violence every time it is played is if the caster writes the opponents name down on a piece of paper, and that's incredibly fucking tedious for a goddamn game of EDH
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>>54746322
Cry me a river fag. Will play this in every white deck just to spite you.
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>>54746268
>voltron
>commander wants you to swing wide, because they can only block/attack with one creature

>voltron
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>>54746311
Here's your dumb Voltron bait
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>>54746274
I can already hear the butthurt commander purists and their autistic screeching
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Next one
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>>54746322
Go away dude, we get you're lonely and baiting for those sweet (you)s
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>>54746322
Have you never played conspiracy?

Multiplayer game that asks you to write things down like every 5 seconds. writing something down a few times in an EDH game will be perfectly fine.
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Secret Commander for Sram?
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>>54746322
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>>54746339
More like shitty commander going to the bin
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This looks better than it probably is.
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>>54746322
>writes the opponents name down on a piece of paper
>incredibly fucking tedious
>for EDH
Anon, you've never seen a Scrambleverse resolve, have you? Quickly jotting a name down is NOTHING especially when a lot of players use P&P for life totals already since unlike a d% it's not vulnerable to an errant sleeve.
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>>54746339
hes hilarious with the axe that duplicates itself.
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>>54746310
If you're already enchanted by something protection causes it to fall off right?
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>>54746283
if you reveal the opponent does that mean I have to bring him from the back room and display to everyone that I chose him?
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>>54746256
Have I got the guy for you!
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>>54746339
Secret commander in every equipment based deck. Looks like a fun addition.
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>>54746329
>>54746332
>>54746339
Whats the lore behind these guys? I only recognize Mirri.
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>>54746329
So he enters with his hammer on hand plus a proxy Sigarda's Aid for other equips, huh wow. Also you can spread the tools around to get around multiple blockers, cool.

>>54746351
Straight into Wort you go, you sexy thing.
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>>54746351
>its in the cat deck
>has a fucking centaur weirdo on it
Just put a big Tiger on it WOTC
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>>54746329
Yeah that's dumb voltron bait. The hammer could function much like an extra puresteel in Sram though.
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>>54746322
>Format where people are usually writing down multiple life totals on a pad of paper to keep track of 4 regular life totals + commander damage + poison counters
>BAWWW WRITING A NAME DOWN ON A PIECE OF PAPER IS HARD AND GONNA TAKE FOREVER

I bet you're the kind of person who thinks the transformation requirements for Grimlock will take forever to do and drag out the game.
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>>54746273
You better not be a dumb asshole and have something like a Masterpiece Transformer if you play this because if you did I'd make you do the transformation every single time.

Also thoughts on this for Marath?

>Use infinite mana to put infinite +1/+1 tokens on it
>win game
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>>54746372
I don't recognize them at all either.

I expected most knowable cat characters like Jazal, but I guess they also had to stick with GW and it limited them.
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>>54746285

>>54746322
Glad to hear there is at least one sane person in the thread
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>>54746353
>be me
>be playing edh at lgs
>mono red player isnt doing anything all game, occasionally burning us
>plays chandra, pyromancer
time passes
>he casts a howl of the hoard with raid
>ults chandra
>hits a fucking scrambleverse
>everyone concedes because fuck that
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>>54746204
>>54746231
>>54746283
>>54746310
>>54746332
>>54746339
>Furry pandering

Please tell me this set will flop and bring down WoTC together.
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>>54746392
>>54746395
>Bringing a $50+ transformer with you every time you want to play MtG
>Not just buying some Minicon off ebay for $5 that you can transform in 5 seconds
>Not just carrying a handful of Titanmasters around with you
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>>54746415
It must have been his only legitimate win con.
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>>54746425
>1/4 of C17 will be "furry" pandering and appeal to casuals and girls
>Posts vomiting blood gif from Metalocalypse over this
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>>54746253
You could play the card it is based on.

But yeah. Probaby just Voltron stuff.
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>>54746400
I will tap my Sylvan Caryatid for one white mana, and then cast Rebuff the Wicked targeting your Snuff Out
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>>54746428
>titanmaster

That barely counts. Use a legends figure at least. "I fold in half" is hardly a transformation.
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>>54746457
>based on
>Mirri can attack together with her 9000+ tokens
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>>54746372
They're probably both Dominarian. Too proud looking to be Theros, white means not Tarkir, no metal plating so not Mirrodin, and fancy clothes so not Alara.
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>>54746204
>Thread Question:
I like new Mirri and Balam, the rest not so much.
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>They could have given us something cool like insect or snek waifus
>Instead it's the most basic furshit
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>>54746204
Lets all pretend they never happened, especially this staxtastic 3rd Mirri
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Ha ha, time for taxes
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>>54746507
What does the flavor says, anyone speaks deustcherunes?
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>>54746490
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>>54746204
I hate this bullshit. I hate that along with cool tribes they have given us these shitcats. Fuck cat tribals it could have been something better but no let's fucking pander to girls.

The worst shit is, some euipment ooks legitimately cool but i won't be able to play it because i won't ever buy this girly bullshitFUCK.
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>>54746517
I can already taste the salt.
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>>54746425
>OMG there be cat people! Teh furries have invaded!
>When Mirri was a character in 1997
>And Catfolk have been an intermittent staple ever since
>And Ajani is a Lorwyn 5/Gatewatch Member.

If anything the furry pandering has been toned down. Compare Mirri's card here with Mirri, Cat Warrior and try to honestly tell me the new version is the one that will please furries.
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>>54746519
>Once you start the bloodshed, it's hard to stop
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>>54746517
>in response to any wheel ever
alternatively
>consecrated sphinx
>whoever has less cards in the deck between the two of you gets milled
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>>54746517
Go go gadget Bernie Sanders?
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>>54746517
He has come from afar to deliver the poorfags among us from the Consecrated Sphinxes of the world.
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>>54746507
How has it already gone from 900x500 to 540x300 in less than a single thread?
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>>54746531
>this isn't your average every day autism... this is ADVANCED autism
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>>54746469
Grimlock's ability says you need to put a Transformer into it's "other mode". The head is the other mode from the robot mode.

Checkmate, spectralists
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>>54746531
>I can't buy these cards, these are GIRLS cards!
#MasculinitySoFragile
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>>54746549
They don't have to draw with Sphinx if they don't want to
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Commander: 2017 Dollarbin Edition
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>>54746580
That still stops them from drawing cards. I am okay with this.
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>>54746517
>Flash
Would literally punch the fucker pulling this crap mid-combo

>>54746575
>>54746560
Consider that every shitty precon is a precon that could be awesome instead. And yes, we need more players, we absolutely haven't got enough
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>mfw 4chan is quicker in with updates than mythicspoiler
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>>54746531
>girly bullshit
this is excellent bait, take note guys.
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>>54746591
>Waaah boo hoo not enough power creep! How am I supposed to profit off these cards now?

Grow the fuck up faggot.
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>>54746517
NEED
fuck brainstorm
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>>54746611
WE ARE ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL
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>>54746531
What? You don't like cats? There's nothing wrong with a guy having a cat for a pet.
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>>54746611
They have been really bad lately.
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>>54746626
>You want to actually play these cards? how dare you commander product is just supposed to be a way for WoTC to siphon money off of us now shut up and bend over
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>>54746517
[laughs in Notion Thief]
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>>54746631
Play brainstorm like a man with a brain, instead of passive-aggressive furry shit

>>54746647
Or having a cat-guy for a pet
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>>54746531
>Cool stuff in deck
>Refuses to buy because "Cats are girly"

Holy shit, Anon.
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>>54746604
>WAH DON'T STOP MY COMBOS!!!!!
Get fucked fag. I bet you play Nekusar too.
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>>54746668
>confused.jpg
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>>54746611
I mostly check Reddit for new stuff and repost it here. It's a good aggregator
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Man, this deck is looking purrrrfect.
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>>54746562
>coin is a toy
>it has two modes
is grimlock the coin toss commander we've all been waiting for?
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I was building Bant enchantments, but I'm wondering if I should just go for 5-color. I don't normally like anything more than 3-color (2 is best), but for this it seems like it could work and maybe even be fun
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>>54746517
>mfw Borosfag
>mfw pulling this in in response to windfall/wheel/other gay bullshit
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>>54746696
>cat puns
1v1 me irl Commander 2011 legends only ill punch your face in
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>>54746656
Don't buy it if you don't want to, fuckwit. None of these tribes are really my thing, but if one looks fun I'll probably buy it. Lower-power cards are healthy, they can be playable without shitting all over the format like Atraxa, Meren, etc. do by pushing out the other options.
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>>54746715
What enchantment support will Red and Black add?
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>>54746604
>Would literally punch the fucker pulling this crap mid-combo
And I would flash my punch in response. Get fucked, combofags.
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>>54746604
>delicious bluefag tears
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>>54746719
"No."
You'll take barbed cat dick and you'll like it.
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>>54746517
I like that it gives white some way to even out drawing. Its the anti-Johnny card.
>you flash this in when they do some enter the infinite bullshit
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>>54746686
more like
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>>54746703
It has to be a toy trademarked under the Transformers brand.
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>>54746521
>snake
Naga m8. Even MARO admits they fucked the creature types up.
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>>54746719
But anon, I don't want to turn this into a CATastrophe.
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>>54746717
you should be the one wheeling if youre playing boros, dumbass
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>>54746332
>clothes
Leonin from Bant? Return to Alara when?
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>>54746721
>Don't buy it if you don't want to, fuckwit.
getting super defensive
you need daddy wotc's cummies that bad?
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>>54746756
gotchu senpai
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>>54746738
Good luck getting this shit through counters, you inferior whites
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So Cats are Equipment Voltron/Stax, Dragons are 5C Goodstuff.

Vamps will probably be Lifedrain/Aristocrats, but what will Wizards be?
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>>54746231
>Hungry Hound
>Dogs you control have protection from Cats.
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>>54746781
Yup, that'll work.
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>>54746801
Spellslingers. Again.
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>>54746797
>*Grand Abolishers at you*
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>>54746801
>but what will Wizards be?
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>>54746763
It works on your wheels too, i don't see the problem.

It's not gay if Boros is doing it.
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What are the colors for the commander decks?
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>>54746801
Broken.
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>>54746821
GW cats, 5c dragons, Mardu vamps, Grixis wizards
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>>54746811
Hmm, how did you manage to resolve that shit again? Also, who let the butt of the joke act on other people's turns with
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>>54746763
That's even better.
>wheel with cat tax on field
>draw seven cards
>tell your opponents to not get greedy
>they each draw 1 card and you draw 1 extra for each opponent
It's no Notion Thief, but I like it.
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>>54746777
>None of these tribes are really my thing
>Precons have a history of shitting up the format
Can't even get your non-argument right.
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>>54746517
Hero of the proletariat combating the bourgeois Consecrated Sphinxes and Enter the Infinites
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>>54746735
Black has three solid Theros gods, and a few Constellations that are solid. Also has a few good enchantments like Phyrexian arena

Red doesn't really add anything
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>>54746737
You'll get a handful of shitty fatties you'll never cast, 'cause the game will end before your turn
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>>54746853
>>Precons have a history of shitting up the format
DAS RITE
bad cards r better
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>>54746517
Fuckin commie cat shits
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these are actually not too bad.
if cats (my least hyped for one) can get me hyped I can only imagine what the rest are like
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>>54746883
If he were truly a commie no one would get anything
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>>54746552
Draw everyone to death if this is in play with C Sphinx.
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>>54746857
>Hero of the proletariat combating the bourgeois
could you be more of a faggot?
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>>54746872
Yeah, I'd take nothing over Derevi or Prossh.
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>>54746360
yes
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>>54746329
I don't like how this requires Sylvan Library in order to get consistent value
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>>54746939
what the hell are you talking about?
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>>54746839
>implying White needs to 'resolve' a 2 cmc 2/2 creature spell in order to get it into play
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>>54746939
The legend is a tutor, you don't need sylvan for it to work, it just goes to your hand.
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>>54746329
he looks from bant, whit all those sigils
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>>54746980
das rite
gotta cast a 6cmc giant or 5cmc angel to get a 2 cmc creature into play

alternatively
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>>54746351
Can someone remind me again why they never print instant speed ramp? I get that you'd be able to do something broken with this as an instant but you can already do something broken with instant speed "power matters" in everything except ramp
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>>54746992
>Bant
>divinity counters
say what

>>54746517
Btw do yall think this might be a bit expensive? It's four mana but it sounds like the kind of EDH card that could go into rogue Legacy decks. >inb4 ded format yeah I know
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>>54747009
Skyshroud Claim is sorcery and only tutors forests.

It's practically autoinclude in any green-heavy deck.
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>>54746992
>muh angels
>muh sigils
>muh honor
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>>54746848
and they still discard their hand
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>>54747034

4 mana IS expensive, but I think the reason you won't see him in legacy is more that he's outclassed by leovold

The only commonly played legacy card he hates on is Brainstorm and I guess Predict, whereas leovold hates on all cantrips and also all targeted removal and discard
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>>54747075
Fuck, meant for >>54747034
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>>54747075
>jundfags
jealousy doenst look good on you
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>>54747075
go away grixis
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>>54747075
>>54747086
>>54747089
lol woops
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>>54747082
Oh tru dat, it seems he won't spike much after release. I'm more interested in the Vampires and Wizards though, I dont play Wx much.
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>>54747075
Fuck, now I want pic related with Rafiq
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>>54746553
I think Kalemne just got a new toy.
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why is esper the best combination?
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>>54747063
>Skyshroud Claim is good therefore high costed sorcery ramp is good

You dense motherfucker. Did I say that sorcery ramp is bad? Is this card somehow equivalent just because it's >4cmc ramp? When Claim gets UNTAPPED NONBASICS?

Do I need to fucking spell it out for you? I cast this, someone removes my creature in response, my spell resolves and I get NOTHING.

This particular ramp card needed to be instant, but now it's shit
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>>54747189
>all this shit
>can't just Demonic Consultation for a card not in your library
Spicefags are fucking cancer.
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>>54747189
That's probably the jankiest way to make lich work
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>>54747219
But spice is better to have go off because it's impressively obtuse.
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>>54747154
Who plays this garbage?
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>>54747219
>>can't just Demonic Consultation for a card not in your library
>still have to draw a card
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>>54746553
Best boy coming through!
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>>54747251
High class individuals who like facesitting
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>>54746801
Man I'd be ecstatic if the Wizard deck somehow had a Snapcaster in it.
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>>54747265

Everybody loves face sitting, but are they classy enough to tell the world about their love of face sitting through their choice of commander?
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>>54747251
>Who plays Kalemne?
Human garbage to be shunned only slightly less than discordfags.
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>>54747281
>but are they classy enough to tell the world about their love of face sitting through their choice of commander?
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>>54747276
Not happening, they have to sell Modern Masters somehow.
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>>54747254
Leonin Shikar gains more scope too since she can allow the token equipment from first strike to attach before normal strike
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>>54746351
MOTHER FUCKING OMNATH

HOLY FUCK
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>>54746957
>>54746984

I'm saying that a 7/4 indestructible+ tutor + light evasion is worth 6 mana
But it's not worth 10/14 mana, or the extra chance for opp interference by casting these separately
So if you draw into Hammer in your first five turns it makes Nazahn pretty mediocre.
Silvan Library would be an autoinclude here just to mitigate the risk of drawing hammer
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>>54747307
shikari is good. glad hes getting reprinted. hes 5-6$ now
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>>54746204
Am I reading this right? Whenever Mirri attacks, not whenever Mirri attacks alone? Fuck that's nasty with cat swarm.
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>>54747360
yes, she really supports going wide and swinging all out.

As long as she is tapped opponents have a much harder time retaliating you.
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>>54747360
She seems pretty strong desu. Very powerul against creature strategies.
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>>54747330
well shes not good but she sure as hell doesnt require sylvan library to function
its still a tutor for any equipment in the command zone
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>>54747330
You still can tutor other equipments and Top is a bit cheaper than Library right now, too.
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>>54747330

Sylvan library is already an autoinclude, it's the best green card legal in edh

I think the card you were looking for was mirri's guile
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>>54746204
>3 mana
>3/2
>first strike
>when attacks trigger

this is a cat tranny isnt it?
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>>54747379
Damn, now I'm actually tempted to switch Kemba to G/W cats instead of mono-W equip.
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>yfw cat tribal artifact matters
>yfw stoneforge and one of the swords/batterskull is spoiled
>yfw its sold out before it hits the shelves
>yfw you preordered selesNYA pussycats
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>>54747426
>Mirri's Guile
Thanks anon youdabes
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>>54747216
>I cast this, someone removes my creature in response, my spell resolves and I get NOTHING.


Actually, you'd get basics equal to the highest power among creatures you control, which is now the next biggest creature you control.

You dense motherfucker.
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>>54746531
:(
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>>54747473
if you have multiple big mana guys out already you probably dont need more ramp

this is the karametra problem and is the same CMC as her
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>>54747459
> SFM
> cat

That's not how it works.
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>>54747473

clearly the guy is referring to a scenario where you have one creature

You wouldn't be casting this in that scenario, of course, but is that really a defense of this card? That you need multiple creatures in play, 2 of which that are decent sized, for it to be playable, seems pretty bad
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>>54747473
Enjoy your 5 mana, 0, 1, or 2 tapped basic land ramp
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>>54746517
This is fucking hilarious.
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>>54747216
At 3 power this is already solid. In a mono-green deck or Gruul deck focused on big dudes this could easily pull out 5+ lands.
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>>54747502
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>>54747429
catboi pussy plz?
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>>54746204
We got itty bitty kitty titties here.
Now where's the fat cat tats?
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>>54747554
>Now where's the fat cat tats?
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>>54747459
>batterskull reprint
>stoneforge reprint

Don't toy with my heart, Anon
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>>54747514
>>54747521

Voltron decks wouldn't want this anyways. If you don't get at least 3-4 lands off of this every time you cast it you're running a bad green deck desu
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>>54747429
>>54747551
alesha who smiles at barbedcock
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>>54747576
sauce?
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>>54747554
Right here, suga
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>>54747543
In your case if you already have the power to produce 5 mana on turn 3/4/5, and you have multiple fatties, you are already ahead in which case you didn't need that ramp in the first place, you're just deckthinning at this point

And if you draw into and cast this late game in any multicolor deck you're going to brick at least partially
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>>54747614
Derp
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>>54747592
you're already running a bad deck because there's better ramp out there
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I hate cats and GW so much.
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>>54747646
Alright calm down Spike
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>>54747429
Also a Warrior Princess
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>>54747588
>Supplementary $30 product containing cards that cost more than $10 inside

LOL
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>>54747514
Getting out a couple of 3/3s is a lot easier than you might think. Green decks looking to play utility creatures like Vizier can likely curve out into this and then explode.
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>>54747669
>believing msrp
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>>54747646
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>54747669
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>>54747669
wurmcoil
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>haven't been able to play Magic in months
>still have this desire to build decks even though I don't have a play-group currently
Is Nin any fun? I want to build another UR deck since my Jhoira was stolen out of my car by some crackheads. Jhoira was not very fun in the long run.
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>>54747623
I mean, yeah, bad in the sense that it's not competative. This is rad for more casual fatties decks, though.

>>54747675
Everyone who plays green in my playgroup is happy about this, particularly the Xenagod player.
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>>54747731
>scoring Jeleva for $13

I love those dinky plastic repack boxes at the big box stores.
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>>54747775
Again,

Mother
Fucking
Omnath

Either version, just NUTTING all over the goddamn table
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>>54747606
Ai Shinozaki, I think
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>>54747746
Nin is a wonderful general if you like to play politics in multiplayer games. Nothing like the promise of drawing a shit load of cards to keep people in line.
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>>54746857
This lets the Sphinx player have you both draw as many times as he likes.
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>>54746425
I don't mind anthropomorphic animals as long as they're actually desiged well not drawn in a shitty, obnoxious comic style.
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>>54747852
>Nin is a wonderful general if you like to play politics in multiplayer games. Nothing like the promise of showing off your tits to keep people in line.
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>>54746204
How do I build her without going full cats, I want to build some sort of token-y stax
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Cmon wizards release the mardu vampires cards, I want to see a 2RBW cost 4/3 commander that you tap to give a creature +2/+2 till end of turn
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>>54746204
How does that work with something like Kaalia?
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>>54748018
pls no
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>>54746283

This card is going to be a clusterfuck of cheating because people are going to find ways to "secretly choose" all opponents and reveal whoever is most advantageous to them at the time.
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>>54748027
They aren't declared as attackers I believe
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>>54748044
Wrong.

>Write a name on a sheet of paper
>Place that paper under the card
>Reveal that paper to activate the ability
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>>54748027
>attack with kaalia (your 1 attacker)
>put your free fatty into play tapped and attacking
>combat as normal
Same as alesha the chuckling faggot
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>>54748008
She's a great token commander, you don't need to add any cat flavor for it to work.
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>>54748008
She's not a card you really have to build around since she's not dependent on any other cards. Maybe add ways to tap her that don't require attacking and also work with tokens such as Glare of Subdual, Cryptolith Rite and Springleaf Drum.
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>>54748044
Anyone over the age of 12 will have the sliver of common sense required to make the furfag write it down.
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>>54748044
Most likely they write down the name on a scratch piece of paper and put it somewhere publicly seen so there's no fuckery.
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>>54748044
This sort of effect was all over conspiracy, and I never encountered any sort of cheating.

Writing it down and placing the paper where everyone can see it, is not hard to do.
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>>54748092
>have one player's name on one side of a piece of paper
>write another player's name on the other side
>put under cat
>reveal whichever side is better
Step up your cheating game fampai.
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>>54748133
Implying anyone wouldn't catch you trying to pull that baby ass shit.
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>>54746814

Really love this art..
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>>54748133
Put the paper on the cat. One side of it can be clearly seen as empty.


There problem solved.
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>>54748120
>>54748116
>>54748092
>>54748127
>Writing it down and placing the paper where everyone can see it, is not hard to do.

Writing multiple things on the paper and covering one of them with your finger is also not hard.

Or you can use your phone's notepad for "convenience" and type all the names and just erase the other ones when you show it.

Seriously, anyone who's inclined to cheat at all will EASILY cheat with this card.
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>>54748044
>playing cat tribal
>crippling autism makes them choose the same person every game regardless of the board state because thats how they work
It wont be hard
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>>54748133
>Anon, why did you write on both sides of that slip?
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>5 person game
>One person playing Edric
>Whenever it comes to combat phases on one of our turns, Edric player points out if he's attacked they won't draw cards
>Despite me pointing out it's a trap so he gets left alone while we tear eachother apart, they listen to him
>They tear eachother apart while Edric builds an elfish army
>This happens everytime

Why are these players so stupid?
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>>54746425
Leonin are probably older than you are.
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>>54748018
today is cats, tomorrow is another tribe
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>>54748167

You can make them reveal the full paper, you know. And if they won't, call bullshit.
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>>54748193
dude it's free cards
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>>54748193
>Why is the best political incentive so good at incentivizing?
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>>54748167
Except people can easily see you fiddling with your phone when you're supposed to reveal it and covering a name with your finger doesn't work at all because they can just ask you to lay it out on the table so you can't cover it. The only people who will get cheated by this are people stupid enough to let people cheat in super obvious ways.
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>>54748193
c-c-c-c--c-c--c-c-CARD ADVANTAGE
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>>54748167
Have you ever tried either of these methods of cheating? I know for a fact everyone I play with would call you out immediately for trying to cheat like a 5 year old.
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>>54746517
>Creature type Cat Cleric

Good fucking job ruining any chance for this to ever get a reprint, Blizzard. They never learn.
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I just want to play rats
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>>54748243
It's also a trap. Any benefit you may gain helps Edric way more.
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>>54748167
>covering with your finger.

Just ask to have the piece of paper fully revealed for everyone to see. If they wont, call shenanigans.

Literally a non-issue. Conspiracy and Conspiracy 2 both used this.
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>>54748251
What's wrong with that typing? There are plenty of planes with cat people. I mean, fuck, we're going back to Dominaria.
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>>54748249
>I know for a fact everyone I play with would call you out immediately for trying to cheat like a 5 year old.

I don't believe you for a second. For starters, most people don't actively try to catch other people from cheating because they're honest players themselves. It doesn't occur to them that cheating is a thing they have to watch out for.

The main reason it takes forever for cheaters to get caught in games like these is not because they have the dexterity of Houdini or plans of Akagi, it's because nobody is on guard for them.
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>>54748262
Some people aren't red pilled like you, anon
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>>54748283
>What's wrong with that typing?

It should be Human Cleric to maximize reprintability.

>There are plenty of planes with cat people

There's like three at most, and we're not going to spend any serious time in them.
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there will be a token for which player you choose idk how they will do it but it will be there
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>>54748251
Fuck, we can only ever reprint this in
>>Dominaria
>>Theros
>>Ahmonkhet
>>Alara
>>Core sets
>>Any new plane that includes cat people
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Did a full decklist get spoiled for the cat deck? I want to start gathering pieces for my cat deck but don't want to hunt down anything that's just going to be in the deck.
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>>54748311
Alara, Dominaria, Theros, Tarkir, Mirrodin.
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>>54748251
>commander card
>reprint
It'll just end up in a Masters set or Conspiracy. What's the issue?
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How do you guys handle ramp in this boardwipe format? One of my decks ramps hard but a lot of it is creature based (Llanowar Elves etc). I figure this is a little too fragile. I do have access to green and run all of the standard ramp spells but stopped short of using the less optimal ones in favour of smaller CMC creatures that generate mana
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>>54746517
Man a guy at my LGS is gonna be fucking furious about this card and I'm going to run it in my Naya deck.
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>There are people seriously talking about the cheating potential of a one time kill spell

In conspiracy secret draft choices had to be written on a paper. If they play stalking leonin, make them choose a player with the notepad function of their smartphone (or a text box if there isn't one) if they don't have a phone, make them write it down, if they can't, tough shit for them the ability is null and void. Obviously the player can't fiddle with their phone until the ability activates or the creature is removed from the field, an easy task for someone actually playing the game.
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Rats, Cats, Dragons... aaand?
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>>54748440
Are you retarded?
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>>54748440
Where are you getting rats from
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>>54748251
>Commander cards being reprinted outside of other Commander sets
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>>54748440
>rats
Yes.
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>>54748445
>>54748449
>>54746231
Why make anti-rat card if there are no rats
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>>54748440
>Edgar Markov is actually a demented hermit who thinks he's a vampire and trains rats.
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>>54748044
How is anyone attacking you through your pillowfort? Learn to W scrubs
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>>54748463
Did you read the card? It Supports itself enough.
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>>54748463
Go read the card again. This time, really think about how it works.
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>>54748340
None of the Amonkhet block Almondcats are gonna be in, that's for sure.
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>>54748463
Maybe because the card itself makes rats
Tard
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>>54748463
Do you have brain problems?
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>>54748347
There were catfolk on Tarkir? I thought those were hounds. And not the guy bitching about the reprintability, but to be fair Mirrodin is gone.

>>54748384
Don't rely on creature based ramp unless you can win before a wipe. 1 mana dorks like Llanowar Elves and Birds are fine, but after that you're typically better off with ramp spells that give you lands, like Cultivate/Kodama's Reach, Skyshroud Claim, Wood Elves, or mana doubling effects like Caged Sun or Mirarri's Wake. If all else fails get more rocks, like Darksteel Ingot, Thran Dynamo, Thought Vessel, Mind Stone, Command Sphere, etc. Generally speaking you should avoid mana dorks unless they give you an absurd amount of mana, since boardwipes are so common in this format.
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>>54748450
yes?
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>>54748478
Which is fine, there's only two in that block worth running in EDH and neither are worth any money.
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>>54748473
>>54748475
>>54748479
>>54748480
Then the cat is a shitty cat.
One card synergies is pretty lame.
>>
Am I being baited or are there really people this stupid?
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>>54748463
>inb4 grixis wizards are actually Wizard Wererats
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>>54748482
It's a Uril deck so it's meant to go really, really fast. But any more than 3 people at the table and there's a wipe coming almost guaranteed and it's fucked with my mana base before. Still, I'll be much slower if I trade 1 and 2 cost dorks for 3+ cost ramp.
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>>54748500
Thanks for your input dummy
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>>54748501
The world may never know anon
If people actually looked at decklists and read the whole card we would have these issues
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>>54748500
Are you dumb? It almost reads "Put a counter on every cat each Turn", with a little politics involved.
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>>54747746
Played Nin for a while before I had the deck evolve into Nekusar. She's an absolute ton of fun, tempted to just go back to her instead.
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>>54746283
Wow, this seems really fun in 60 card 1v1
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>>54748463
Did you fucking read the card?
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>>54748559
Do you have proof that the fourth deck ISN'T rats?
You'd think they'd make anti-tribal cards, if not they're really gone down the drain in imagination over at Seattle.
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Too bad about cats. Those fuckers could have done a Beast naya deck to make up for the dinosaur bullshit.
Also rogues would have been a better grixis tribe, since wizards are already strong as a vanilla blue tribe.
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>>54748559
>yfw edh will single handedly make doubling season a $100 card soon
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>>54748491
>Being reprinted as a invocation where the ratio is somewhere around 1 in 100 packs to get one is the same as being added into a future set as a regular rare

If Containment Priest was added in Amonkeht/Hour of Devastation you'd have a point.
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>>54748482
Tarkir had Sultai Rakshasa, who were Cat Demons.
>>
The cats deck looks stupid as fuck
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>>54748570
Imagine the flavor.
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>>54748583
Yes, there are the four posters clearly not showing any rats, and a weeb magazine saying that they're cats dragons wizards and vampires.
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>>54748583
Since we have a magazine confirming the other decks as Vampires and Wiszards, then yes we have proof that it's not Rats
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>>54748583
Cats
Dragons
Wizards
Vampires
You're a fucking idiot
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>>54748605
But their hands were not on backwards
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>>54748625
>>54748622
Well that's a shame.
>Rat tribal never ever
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>>54748622
Talk about boring tribes.
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>>54748647
Go back to your corner and fap to your Ink-Eyes deck with 60 Relentless Rats and 39 Swamps
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>>54748450
Toxic Deluge in Eternal Masters, they do it sometimes.
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>>54748670
Marrow-gnawer is where it's at, pleb.
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>>54748647
Congrats, you've made the /tg/ tard wall
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>>54748450
>Scavenging Ooze
>>
I own Legacy Dredge, Modern Infect, and Modern Ad Naus but I really want to play EDH
Is there anything I can build with those cards that doesn't need a lot of money?
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>>54748410
I'm going to run it in my Brago deck, the King shall have his levy
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>>54748719
Just buy a precon, see if you like it, then tweak it if you do
At worst, you're down 40 bucks
At best, you have some neat cards and a good start on the format
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>>54748719
Probably some shit that will get you killed the moment people realise what that is
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>>54748695
how weezers the thats a high water mark of stupidity
and yet it only ever gets worse
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>>54748723
this guy gets it. all the nice things shall belong to the king.
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>>54748410
Anyone will half a brain will be furious about this shit, unless your only source of cards is draw step. Yes, even greenfags with their libraries
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>>54748748
post /tg/ tards
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>>54748748
Not him but I think Raza is fucking stupid. A sac outlet that also tutors at instant speed as many times as you want per turn is outright retarded.
Stupid enough to be banned I don't know though.
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>yfw the sobek god wasnt BUG
>been waiting so long for crocodile tribal
>wizards went and fucked it up in the only not-egypt plane with not-egyptian gods
>mfw
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>>54748769
Another issue that could be resolved by bringing back 'banned as commander'.
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>>54748695
What kind of bullshit is that? That person has perfectly good reasoning and is under no obligation to know all the shit that comes out of wizards butthole. If there can be such an abomination as cat tribal, anything is possible
>>
>>54748811
But it's not as a commander where' he's good. It's something like Meren.
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>>54746425
haha yiff in hell furfaggots right fellow /b/tard ecksdee
>>
>>54748769
>>54748811
you mongoloids razaketh will never be banned, and the only way he's playable is in the 99 because you literally never want to hardcast him
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>>54748811
>thinking Razzle-Dazzle is somehow better as a commander
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>>54748719
Varolz
>Get every tutor you can
>as much removal as you can
>tutor up berserk
>tutor up phyrexian dreadnaught/deaths shadow
>fuck them hard in the ass turn 4
>throw in infect for fun
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>>54748768
>tfw the guys running the format are /tgtard/ levels of cancer and its still the best format because at least WoTC isnt in charge
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>>54748833
>defending a retard that didnt take the time to know a fact that everyone else knew for the past week
Samefagging this hard
>>
>>54748833
>make wrong uninformed guess on information we've known for months
>why are you calling him out?
Is it too much to ask that people get a clue and do some research before they post?
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>>54748695
>Congrats, you've made the /tg/ tard wall

and you've made the spectrum
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>>54748842

>literally never want to hardcast him

What if you have Crypt ghast and Cabal Coffers? Mono black often gets to like 15-20-30 mana
>>
>>54748834
>>54748842
>>54748848
Oh, I didn't know. I just use him in Shadowborn Athreos.
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>>54748858
>Samefagging this hard
Wrong

>>54748859
>Is it too much to ask that people get a clue and do some research before they post?
Yes. Otherwise there is no reason for this thread since there are infinitely better sources of information
>>
>>54748859
>implying anything on 4chan isnt just shitposting information we got from reddit in the first place
Imagefromtumblr.jpg
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>>54748935
>Is it too much to ask that people get a clue and do some research before they post?
>Yes.
>Is it too much to ask people to do research
>Yes
I have to assume you're baiting for (You)s because the sentence that you just texted out is fucking retarded
>>
>>54748695
I feel prood
>>
>>54748928
then you'll instead cast Demonic Tutor (a card that is restricted in vintage) to cast Doomsday and use the leftover mana to instantly win
>>
Endbringer in Samut, y/n?
>>
Hey guys, what's a "stack"? My friend keeps on saying it when we play. Is this some sort of gay thing? How should I tell him I'm not interested in him that way?
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>>54749067

How does mono black win with doomsday? Some kind of 2 piece combo?
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>>54749088
https://mtg.gamepedia.com/Stack
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>>54749121
Mike and Trike probably, though honestly I don't know for sure.
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>>54749088
The stack is like a mantrain, you put your dick in his ass then another guy puts his dick in your ass and so on, they guy who joined last gets to cum first then you go in reverse order, nothing to do with being gay
>>
>>54749074

Count your colorless sources
>8, yes
<9, no
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>>54749121
Mick and Trick, or Mick, Seer and Ballista.
>>
>>54748834
>>54748842
If anything, it would make more sense for him to be banned as one of the 99
>>
I really like that all the alt-commanders in these decks aren't tribal-based.

I don't give a picklerick about tribal shit, but I'm actually excited to see if they do anything creative with the Vamps or Wizards decks.
>>
All these cat cards are pretty fucking lame. Hope the other decks are more interesting. I was planning to buy a full set of decks but this cat deck just looks so boring.
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>>54749283
>I'm actually excited to see if they do anything creative with the Vamps or Wizards decks.

Vamps will all be some sort of life drain/gain, wizards will be draw/discard, they dont pay r&d enough to come up with anything new (see equipment cats)
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>>54746553
>>54747254
i am now building an akiri deck. who should i partner it up with?
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>>54749410
UW, for backup voltron
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>>54748321
Could even get a hypothetical Mirrodin/New Phyrexia reprint theoretically. Imagine an Elesh Norn faction Leonin with a porcelain face come to collect tithes for the glory of Yawgmoth.
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>>54749460
i really don't like that bird. i was thinking throwing thrasios on as a partner. i get birthing pod and all the blue artifact goodies that way. green and white have enough recursion that i don't need black with green i also get to run ulvenwald mysteries, which i think will be fun with akiri.
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>>54748604
>being reprinted outside of other Commander sets
>being added into a future set as a regular rare
Toxic Deluge, stfu
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>>54749372
They had different designers for each deck this year, right?

I'm hoping the Cat commanders aren't interesting because Gavin Verhey is bad at his job, not because everyone just phoned it in.
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>>54749410
Silas.
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>>54748450
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>Partner being dropped like a sack of putrid liquefied sewer potatoes instead of carried over through future Commander sets

Thank you, sweet jesus.

Fuck that gay-ass butthole ability.
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>>54749517
Then why did you bother to ask?
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>>54749614
>Partner being dropped
>cmdr memecanics
>reoccurring
>ever
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>>54749614
Honest to god, I'm not sure it's worth getting more commanders that get free shit from the command zone.
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>>54749614
Wait did you think they would print Partners in every commander set? That would be nightmarish to balance. It's exponential complexity. We might get new Partners every 2-3 years, if we ever see them again.
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>>54749410
green for all three doublers that will work on your clone axes as well as your Clues
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>>54749614
Are you really surprised by this?

When did we get Experience Counters back? When did we get Planeswalker commanders back?

It seems illogical to assume that would have happened.

Partners are an interesting mechanic not done well
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>>54749614
Emminence is one of the first commander mechanics that has any sort of resemblance to prior mechanics released.


Why would you think they would do partner again.
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>>54748465
>Markov
>starring Crispin Glover
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>>54749614
We didn't get more "amount of mana spent to cast this" effects.
We didn't get more Planeswalker commanders.
We didn't get more Experience counters.

We were never going to get more Partners. This was a non-issue.
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>>54748590
You mean a $3 card?
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>>54749646
idea fishing. akiri is already a voltron strategy, so why would i use the bird? at that point it just augments my colours, but i could get a better partner to get U into the colour scheme than the bird. the bird just really doesn't add enough.

>>54749674
do i go UG or BG, though? i'm thinking thrasios, but reyhan might be fun with modular.

>>54749562
i already have a breya deck and i don't really wanna do that colour combo again
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>>54748590
>single handedly
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>>54749875
In what other format is Doubling Season seeing repeated play?
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>>54749364

What were you hoping for? I think the cards are decently powerful and interesting for a commander precon
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>>54749364
I don't see how anyone can consider a white notion thief lame. Like I get not being into cats and voltron and stuff but dude, white notion thief. Come on.
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>>54749937
That's right, that shit should have never happened. Fuck color pie, amirite
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>>54749364
The white notion thief is glorious.
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>>54749917
>917 ▶
> >>54749875

in his t4 developing modern selesnaya brew
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>>54749968
>>54749937
it's better than notion thief. because it won't immediately kill you when an opponent gets a consecrated sphinx out.
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>>54749958

But it fits the color pie perfectly
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>>54749958
Taxation, restrictions, and balance are 100% white and that's what the card's all about.
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>>54749996
You still die if they have more cards in deck than you, though if you're in W and they're in U that probably won't be the case
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>>54749958
This is probably the most white card that has come out in a while, barring the HOU enchantment that prevents counters from being placed.
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>>54750055
that's why i say it won't immediately kill you. so the blue player has to make a judgement call when to stop for each draw, especially since each draw for you gives you more stopping power against whatever they would like to do.
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>>54749917
modern
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>>54749999
>>54750012
Drawing cards and most importantly stealing people's shit is what UB does. White draw? Also, hatebears with flash are cancer, Aven Mindcensor, I'm looking at you
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>>54749958
Don't take the color pie at face value. White isn't just gain life with big butt creatures.
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>>54750114
>hatebears with flash are cancer
tiny brain detected
t.bigbrainmasterrace
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>>54750114
It's not stealing anything, it's tax and balance.
There's a card literally called BALANCE in white, so keeping balance is a white thing.
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We need a dog tribal deck for some cats vs dogs action in edh
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>>54750165
>4 player pod
>human tribal vs dog tribal vs cat tribal vs rat tribal
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>>54750164
Not like its banned anywhere or smth, so the name is fitting
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>>54750141
I've seen Aven Mindcensor literally knock players out of the game before
>guy is mana screwed, stuck on two lands the whole game
>finally draws into a Farseek
>other player casts Mindcensor
>move to scoop phase
It was pretty brutal.

I was the other player
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>>54750215
>guy is mana screwed, stuck on two lands the whole game
>not out of the game already
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>>54750114
Are you reading the card right?

Nothing is being stolen, this card just prevents an opponent from drawing more then one card at at time.

White is all about making sure everyone gets their fair share.
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>>54750114
>stealing people's shit is what UB does
It doesn't steal anything. It enforces symmetrical draw (Spirit of the Labyrinth) and only does so whenever an opponent tries to get ahead, rewarding White for bringing everyone back to an even playing field (tithe, land tax, timely reinforcements, fumigate). It's completely White.
>Also, hatebears with flash are cancer, Aven Mindcensor, I'm looking at you
Thank you for revealing your pleb status. White gets efficient utility creatures and is in second place for the highest % of Flash in game (19%) compared to Blue (23%)
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>>54748167
>cheating in EDH

Anyone who is inclined to cheat in EDH should be mocked. Also anyone who is inclined to cheat has a million other easier ways to do so in a casual setting that doesn't have judges who are trained to spot cheating presiding over the games.
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>>54750264
>Thank you for revealing your pleb status. White gets efficient utility creatures and is in second place for the highest % of Flash in game (19%) compared to Blue (23%)
Looks like blue have to move over as a prime faggot color I guess
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>>54750364
duh, White is Right
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>>54750364
>blue have to move over as a prime faggot color
what are you? new or just retarded?
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>>54750396
Announce your choice of most obnoxious color then
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>>54750424
none im not a bitch
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>>54750452
>Too indecisive to form an opinion
Clearly, a bitch is what you are not
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>>54750496

Only bitches think a color is "obnoxious"
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>>54750496
>complaining about someone not complaining
>is what you are not
the tism
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>>54750539
>>54750544
Whatever helps you sleep at night hun
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>hey you should add these cards to your deck
>there are no synergies, won't fit. why did you suggest these even?
>oh haha i never played any of them or your commander but thought I could help!

just nuke reddit
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>>54748583
its literally on the website dumbass
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Off the edge of page 10 we go, lets hope the cancerous faggots fall off with it /shitpost/ general
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New thread

>>54750851
>>54750851
>>54750851
>>54750851
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Still mad unstable has Selesnya Faction acting like Simic when they could've had sweet COMMUNIST HIPPIES!
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