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With Muscle Replacements, you don't need to stoop to trogs.

>>54730140
Why not both?

>>54730140
>Not going for Ork with muscle replacements.
>Having such pleb taste.

>>54730140
I dunno chummer, you ever seen those trids with Fomori actresses?

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>>54730205
The smell

>>54730221
I didn't realise you wanted to fuck something both ugly and inevitably dying before you.

>>54730223
Chummer, elves aren't vegetarians anymore, dwarves aren't agoraphobic and orks don't have litters.
Lots of fluff was changed, some for the better some for the worse. This I consider for the better

>>54730353
But anon, don't you know that trogs in the Congo live as long as dwarves? And don't you remember the quality that allows orks to live as long as humans

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>>54730385
>don't you know that trogs in the Congo live as long as dwarves?

Only trolls - orcs are supposedly around human length in the same conditions. And if you think this is worth living in the middle of nowhere with no modern amenities, because apparently even the thought of metahumans not shitting in mud huts is enough to make mana poisonous to trogs, then you deserve to die of whatever easily treatable disease you get out there.

what ware is worth getting on a face adept?

>>54730584
Tailored Pheromones 3

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I wanna include a rastafarian cult centered around an evil plant spirit (because I watched Major Lazer and it was the coolest shit ever). They should hide in the city and have greenhouses full of deepweed farms (or anything that is simular to weed I guess, maybe I should invent my own inhale-vector drug?)
Any Ideas?

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>>54730584
Penile implant with rating 2 vibration ribbing.

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>>54730353
You no fuck trog.
Trog fuck you.

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Is the Ares Echo Unlimited worth the Nuyen or should I go down to a DR 4 deck? I'm mainly just interested in it because I wanted a DR5 deck and I mainly care about attack, so it seems way more cost effective than a Cyber-5.

Is there something I'm missing here?

Also, modern cyberdecks aren't all dinky little ipads right? There's still shit like pic related right?

>>54730676
that's -0.6 essence if you get them standard or -0.48 if you go alphaware
might as well buy it up to -1
anything else worth it?

>>54731069
It's a new strain of Deepweed, rumor says it was first pulled from deep (DEEP) in the Mariana Trench. By ghosts.
When inhaled, the user becomes MAD CHILL, and is down with whatever. Easy prey for a powerful spirit. Its dank cult fumigates entire sections of sewer and slums with the smoke, netting whole groups of new people at a time. There's a ton of them, but they're all pretty dull, and they all need re-dosing every duration to keep them captive.

>>54731140
I mean, they don't really need keyboards anymore since they're all controlled neurally, right? Having a touchscreen is just a convenience. I guess they could have a keyboard too, but it'd be just as redundant as the touchscreen.

>>54731231
Muscle Toner? Depends on whether your GM allows you to upgrade ware instead of full replacement. But AGI increase is always useful, if only for the Suppression Fire you'll most likely be using

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Sup y'all. Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the Core Rulebook Master Index?

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>>54731422
You probably do have a datajack, but it's not necessary to use a datajack. That's why they have interfaces.

>>54731140
You can change the form factor however you want. The default is a tablet, but you can turn it into a skateboard-sized keytar or a coat if you want.

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>>54731490
It's the core rulebook, but with a master index.

>>54731872
Okay cool...
Like, what is a master index?

>>54732204
Do you actually not know what the word index means?

>>54732204
It is a index for all content in all released books except the most recent ones.

>>54732302
Ah okay. But no real additional content other than that?

>>54732204
>>54732362
It's just an organizational tool. It's still just the corebook.

So does the inComplete Trogg actually take up anything about how the Troggs themselves are working towards greater segregation by constantly trying to establish their own separate countries?

>>54733313
>does The Complete Trog actually do anything of worth with its racism themes
No.

Anybody ever use that BattleRun crossover for A Time of War and SR 4e?

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>>54730454
>>54730385
Am I the only GM who completely ignores this retarded bit of fluff and just have Orks get the same lifespan as humans and Trolls just a bit short due to biological constraints.

Like having a quicker age of maturity and a longer muscle-mass lifespan is fine, but them dying faster because CGL just wants to keep the idea of Orks being expendable is fucking retarded and completely illogical.

I fluff it as being an urban myth spread to justify harder law enforcement on Orks and Trolls. Which makes sense because they're tougher so cops legit have to use an amount of force that is less controllable and ergo can lead to a higher fatality rate.

>>54733313
Yes, in several places. Don't believe the memes

>>54734008
I actually say trolls live really long lives naturally, like almost as long as elves, but stay as "teenagers" well into their twenties.

So yeah, The Total Nigger is crap, but I will say the info on the Black Forest and those Viking raiders in SU is kinda neat.

Pretty much everything else is trash.

>>54734008
Yeah I'm with you on that. Honestly when I first saw the numbers in 4E I thought it was due to socioeconomic factors. I do like the whole thing about them maturing faster though, basically just hitting puberty earlier.

Trolls... I don't know, as far as I know, longevity generally increases in mammals with size. Feels like this dude >>54734229 might be on to something. Although I'd put their lifespan at maybe 100 on average.

>>54734309
Well, it was the natural element but also the fact that in folklore/myths giants and trolls are usually supposed to be able to be pretty ancient.

>>54734008
I personally don't ignore it but change the numbers.
So yeah, most orks suffer from Methuselah's syndrome and won't reach 50 due to rapid aging. But a small amount of them are born without and reach normal human life-spans (80 years). I'd say that 3-5% are born without the syndrome.
As for Trolls, yeah they mature far faster at the beginning, but don't change much into old age. A 30 y.o. Troll and a 50 y.o. Troll are similar in vitality. Only in the last 10 years does their system break down.

>>54734008
My GM does the same. Orks have regular human lifespans, though their tendency towards violent lives skews the figures. Trolls also age normally, but are prone to developing heart conditions as they get older.

>>54734344
Oh yeah I'm not against the idea of having trolls living for several hundred years, it makes sense out of the folklore/myth perspective as you say. I just personally tend to tone a lot of the extreme elements down in my Shadowrun. But you did inspire me just now to up their longevity to my previously mentioned number, so kudos on mentioning it!

My setting has some fluff homebrew parts that I guess would be called complete abominations according to those who prefer following the setting according to the books.

>>54731110
Sauce?

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So new art for metavariants when?

Quick Chummer question; Is there a way to change the stats of the Roomsweeper to the flechette version?

>>54734798
6e, if you're lucky.

>>54734798
Is that ent looking motherfucker supposed to be a giant in the last panel?

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>>54734984
Yes.

>>54734845
Que? Loading flechette should change the details, with exception of the ranges, which I need to tinker with.

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>>54735066
Well that's just awful.

The bark skin aspect of Scandi giants bothers me more than anything. Trolls are made of rocks/turn into rocks, not wood. What the fuck were the authors smoking?

>>54735121
>What the fuck were the authors smoking?
The thing that made them make Naga talking snakes? Or make centaurs have horse heads? Or have mermaids be fish people and be vampires?

>>54735066
Who makes this shit art? I swear, I could probably make something better.
Fuck man I would even do it for free just so they get this disgrace shit outta there

>>54735182
>Centaurs with horseheads
What
>Mermaids are fish people vampires
WHAT

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>>54735182
Centaurs only have horse heads so that the player can be the special snowflake misfit centaur who has a human head.

>>54735094
I can't find an option to load flechettes, but I'm running a slightly older version of Chummer, so Maybe it's been added semi-recently.

>>54735121
There is a part that mention their skin as being "leathery, bark-like" so I just use the leathery part. And you know then there's the part of Giants being 0.5 m taller than baseline Trolls, weighing on average 170 kg more, but they have the exact same Str and Bod attributes.

>>54735402
Run Faster is kind of a mess overall. Just a lot of really questionable choices.

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>>54735214
Honestly don't know why they didn't just ask the guy that made the art for the others. Pic related

>>54735241
you didn't know?
>CENTAURS
>A centaur is a mammal of the equine family, and one of the
>few that breaks the usual rule on number of limbs. Its lower body
>resembles that of a horse, with four legs ending in a four-toed
>foot (three of the toes are vestigial, only present in the leg, while
>the fourth toe forms a hoof like a modern horse), while its upper
>body—where the head and neck would be on a horse—resembles
>that of a primate, with long arms ending in three digits and an
>opposable thumb, and a vaguely equine head with an extended
>cranium perched on an long neck. They typically stand 2.5–3
>meters tall at the shoulder and mass 300–600 kilograms.
Runners companion p. 63

>Merrow
>With its humanoid upper body, tapering torso, and slender but strong
>tail, the merrow vaguely resembles the mermaids of classic fairy tales.
>Its long forelimbs end in three-fingered hands with opposable thumbs.
>A long mane covers its neck, and a series of extended spinal vertebrae
>runs the length of the torso. Despite the dermal bone that armors its
>lower body, the merrow’s tail is remarkably flexible. Merrow are known
>to use simple tools, and many parazoologists believe them to have me-
>tahuman levels of intelligence.
20th Anniversary p.300

>>54735442
I take most of my information from 4E runner companion though. Which just makes it worse that they dump out a new edition but don't try to rectify any of their past questionable choices, but instead just copypaste most of it. And the changes they have done are even more questionable.

>>54735314
>remember kids, just beign a talkin horse isn't special enoug, now you can be a socially stigmatised, by other horses, talking horse,

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>>54735450
Oh and I forgot something:
First, there's an actual mermaid species in SR

>MERMAID
>Merhomo illecebrae
>Habitat: Temperate, subtropical, and tropical oceanic waters
>Range: Global
>Frequency: Common
>Identification: The mermaid is an Awakened variant of the
>California sea lion (Zalophus californianus). Its lower body and
>head closely resemble that of the mundane species. However, the
>animal is clearly distinguished by its mane of flowing hair that runs
>down its back. Mermaids are also characterized by a pair of arms
>which end in four-fingered webbed and clawed hands that replace
>their front flippers. Both male and female mermaids possess
>pronounced mammae. Specimens are up to 210 centimeters in
>length and in excess of 350 kilograms in weight.
They hunt fish and mollusk but take on bigger animals if needed, biting them and shredding them with their claws. They kill metahumans by dragging them underwater until the prey drowns.
Pictured on the left.

Oh and here's something for centaurs, same book
>A centaur is an equine-like species. Its lower torso
>resembles that a horse, with four legs ending in hooves. Its upper
>torso, where the head and neck would be on a horse, resembles a
>primate with long arms ending in three digits and an opposable
>thumb.
Guess the artist didn't count their fingers when drawing it.

>>54735675
Please don't bully the artist. He was hired to draw, not to do math.

But for real though, the mermaids are fabulous and terrifying, and I love that they're in the game. The Loreal Seal.

>>54735450
And for those wondering why vampirism isn't mentioned in the description I posted:
Apparently 5e made it that Merrow can contract HMHVV.
Yes, the disease called Human-MetaHuman-Vampiric-Virus, now affects not only humans and metahumans, but also sasquatches and Merrow.

>>54735675
>Both male and female mermaids possess pronounced mammae.

Mermaid(male)?

>>54735820
To be fair, Sasquatches could already contract it in 4E, and they are mentioned as possibly being related to a common ancestor of metahumans. Merrows though... I don't think there's an excuse for that.

On a completely different note, I give the Minotaur metavariant Satyr legs. Should I be sued?

>>54735870
>maid(male)
Oh boy.

>>54735675
>Identification: The mermaid is an Awakened variant of the
>California sea lion (Zalophus californianus). Its lower body and
>head closely resemble that of the mundane species
Sounds like a goddamn selkie or some shit.

>>54736497
>>54735675
God, why do these creatures always have the head of the original for no damn reason?
Is this some kind of crazy author fetish?

>>54736497
Selkies? Never heard of them. /Sarcasm

>>54735331
Buy flechette ammo, stick it in the gun.
>>54735820
Also dropbears.

>>54736654
>dropbears.
aren't they just carriers, just like koalas are carriers for a ton of diseases? Because AFAIK merrow can actually be infected, as in transformed by it

>>54730369
Yes, just so you can have your shitty troll waifus

>>54736989
Let's be honest: Has it ever occurred, in any game? Has anyone said "You enter a room full of trolls. Make a Composure test due to stench"?
Or do you never even mention that fact?

>>54730353
Only retards leave ork mortality as it is.

>>54730223
More importantly, mammae is plural. Did female trolls have 2 sets of tits?

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>>54735450
>>54735675

How much of a faggot would I be if I ignore most of this and have it so Nagas are more like Lamias, Centaurs are actual horsemen, and mermaids are regular mermaids?

>>54737636
That's what I do.
Because jesus christ shadowrun is being intentionally retarded here.

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>>54734574
These two hands, omae. Bastion and Morrigan are from a third edition game when I was a youth.

>>54737636
>How much of a faggot would I be if I ignore most of this and have it so Nagas are more like Lamias
You mean have nagas be more like nagas. Nagas are snake-mermaids in mythology/folklore already; Shadowrun took a hard left turn with them. Lamias, on the other hand, have traditionally held a diverse and fairly random assortment of different monstrous appearances; it's only in recent years that Lamia has become a second name for Naga.

>>54737701
Got any more of them, chummer?

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>>54737720
Yiss

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>>54737806

>>54735450
>metahuman level of intelligence.
Wonder if there would be a way to make a Merrow runner. Parapalegic quality, need a drone with a fishtank on top to move around?

>>54737848
Any liminal body would be enough, plus someone with a squirt bottle to make sure you wouldn't dry out. They're seals, rather than fish, after all.

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>>54737806
man I really want to play this.

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>>54737841 based on this block print from many years ago.

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>>54737711
Good to know chummer, regardless of their name I'm letting them have arms and cyberware. I just need to find that tweak someone made in one of these threads so they're more balanced for arms.

I'm also making narataki and other snowflake metavariants a little more common.

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>>54737872
lol you saved that???

>>54737954
yes.
BLOOOOD HACK

>>54737912
There is literally no reason not to make them more common.
The only reason they are as rare as they are is so you can be a special snowflake with them. Also because shadowrun writers cannot into sustainable population numbers math.

I pump all the rare shit up a lot to make them less rare.

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>>54737636
Some historical drawings from Naga myths depicts them as half people/half snakes so that's just how I do it.
Except I don't roll with it as "It looks completely human except for the animal lower body". It looks humanoid, but it's distinctively different.

>>54737711
>Nagas are snake-mermaids in mythology/folklore already
I mean it is kinda 50/50 between snake-mermaids and just huge snakes. Actually I'd say a larger part of depictions of Nagas are huge snakes. But yeah, I see no reason why they'd go with the full snake instead of snake mermaid when both are valid.

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>>54738022
Large snakes with multiple heads.

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>>54738066
Are those sticks of butter?

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>>54738066

>>54738064
>>54738022
they were literally just snake based shapeshifters in the mythology.
Either make them the modern snake-maids, or just let them shapeshift.

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>>54738081

>>54738080
Processed soy food. He's not made out of money.

>>54738066
>>54738081
This seems like an unsustainable lifestyle. Even for a runner, I dont think someone can live eating only butter and apathy.

>>54735450
>>54735182
Merrow are not mermaids in SR they are there own thing
THAT SAID what mermaids actually are is even more stupid.
In Running Wild Mermaids are literally just Sea Lions that are awakened and have boobs.

>>54738130
look, we all know shadowrun is incredibly retarded when it comes to anything even similar to this.

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>>54738064
Awww shit, I forgot that little detail.

>>54738085
In which one of them? The thing is there are a whole bunch of different versions of Nagas depending on the culture. We're talking about using the prefered one, because none of them is really "fact".

>>54738130
>what mermaids actually are is even more stupid.
Please don't smacktalk the l'oreal seal.

>>54738181
In the vast majority of depictions. And in the scholarly writings about those depictions. And in every definition on what a naga is.
They're fucking shapeshifters, yo.

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>>54738105
And I think this is all I have of them worth showing off right now.

Any interest in some Roll20 token art?

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>>54738251
Yes, in a majority but not all. And even some of those that do refer to them as being able to take either a fully human or fully snake form still talks about their form being half human half snake.

But Nagas are inherently magical in Shadowrun, and a lot of them are mages, so being able to appear fully human would probably be no problem.

But hey, it's called homebrew for a reason, we all do our own versions.

>>54738130
>>54738130
I've given mermaids their own sapience, but they're a lot more chill and social than Merrow. They hang out on the flooded California coasts, and hang out with surfers similarly to amphibious dolphins. A few have started to adopt surfer bro culture, and they bark out slang. They don't fully understand the cultural divide, so they'll greet civilians with the 'hang loose' hand gesture.

Surfers have given a few of them wife beaters and shades, and they wear them around on the beaches and the streets by the risen water levels.

Everyone agrees to just ignore it when they see some mermaids lure, snatch, and devour a few seagulls, then bark out something like "radical!" in their guttural seal voices and then exchange high-fives.

>>54737701
>Bastion and Morrigan are from a third edition game when I was a youth.
You got any more details on them? Kinda wanna steal for NPCs.

They look like a cute couple.

>>54738609
>Surfers have given a few of them wife beaters and shades
I'm fucking copypasting all of this into my notebook.

>>54738609
>but they're a lot more chill and social than Merrow.
that's a pretty big change compared to them in the Books
given that Merrows are sapient and willing to communicate with metahumanity (in exchange for food and matrix access) while mermaids:
>When targeting terrestrial swimmers such as metahumans,
>mermaids will generally drown their victims by grabbing them in
>their forelimbs and holding the prey underwater. As a mermaid
>can hold its breath for over an hour and multiple mermaids may
>work together against such prey, this hunting tactic is extremely ef-
>fective. There have been confirmed reports of mermaids boarding
>small ships at sea and dragging crewmembers overboard to feed.
>When large mermaid packs have been observed, weather updates
>now include reports indicating regions to avoid.

>>54738578
well, there's always the shadowruns of the world that intentionally get the mythology wrong.
Other than that, it's pretty consistent.

>>54738709
Holy shit, thanks for the reminder. Then yeah, that's probably still a reflection of the vast majority of them, but I wanted to offer some contrast between them and the now Somali Piracy-tier Merrow, and give more parallels between them and actual sea lions.

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Are there hoverbikes anywhere in Shadowrun?

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>>54738933
Sure, skimmer tech is a thing. Get a bike with a hovercraft upgrade. Add a rocket booster for more fun times.

>>54738908
>Somali Piracy-tier Merrow
Where do you sea that?

>>54738908
>more parallels between them and actual sea lions
You mean as they are now?
>Sea lion attacks on humans are rare, but when humans come within approximately 2.5 meters, it can be very unsafe.[19] In a highly unusual attack in 2007 in Western Australia, a sea lion leapt from the >water and seriously mauled a 13-year-old girl surfing behind a speedboat. The sea lion appeared to be preparing for a second attack when the girl was rescued. An Australian marine biologist suggested >that the sea lion may have viewed the girl "like a rag doll toy" to be played with.[20][21][22] In San Francisco, where an increasingly large population of California sea lions crowds docks along San >Francisco Bay, incidents have been reported in recent years of swimmers being bitten on the legs by large, aggressive males, possibly as territorial acts.[23][24] In April 2015, a sea lion attacked a >62-year-old man who was boating with his wife in San Diego. The attack left the man with a punctured bone.[25]. In May 2017, a sea lion dragged a small girl by her dress into the water while she was >sitting on a pier side around the time tourists in British Columbia were illegally feeding the sea lions.[26] She was luckily promptly pulled out of the water with minor injuries and was getting antibiotic >prophylactic treatment for seal finger infection from the superficial bite injury.[27][28]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_lion#Interactions_with_humans
Remember anon, Sea lions ARE predators. If you look remotely like food they won't hesitate to just kill and eat you.

>>54739095
Good pun, chummer.
I recall something about Merrow tribes raiding ships and stealing armor and weapons. And if it's not canon, I'm certainly having it happen if just so I can have a fish-person gargle the line "Look at me. I'm the captain now."

And I honestly had no clue that sea lions were so tenacious. I'd heard about a few surfer attacks because they looked like prey from below, and I heard about the recent blubbery douche pulling that little girl off of a pier. Honestly, I've been imagining mermaids as more ape-like in their behavior toward people, with intelligent curiosity winning out over their desire to eat them on land.

I'm liking the image of them all being violent douchebag sea thugs who hop fishing boats, drown and possibly eat the sailors, then have a feast on the deck.

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>>54738933

I would play the shit out of a Shadowun/Jet Moto crossover.

>>54738654
Sebastian "Bastion" Hollows (38, Orc)
Stands as tall as most trolls and could definitely knock one over. Originally an under the table mechanic and general SINless muscle, he fell in with Morrigan by chance when some crazy shit went down all over Seattle. Used to keep a strict no-kill rule, but that seems to be fading. Feeling much older now than when they first met, he's got skeletal reinforcement and a heart implant to keep his body together. Generally grumpy and serious, but has a soft spot for his better half. Keeps a close eye out for her, very protective. Has experience in VIP security roles, industrial fab, street life. Knows how to get creative with industrial tools. Into Combat Biking, Kung Fu, Body Building, and Motorcycles. Hates disrespectful goddamn children, seeing young orcs get caught up in gang shit, weak novacoke.
-Outstanding unarmed ability, esp. takedown and submission
-Exceptional BOD and STR, low CHA
-High Pain Tolerance
-Very good driver, esp. superheavy motorcycles
-Size-Modded Pump Action Shotgun with a variety of trick rounds
-Aluminum Bone Lacing, Synthacardium, Control Rig 1, Reaction Enhancer, Flare Comp + Dampener, Biomonitor


(I don't have the sheets handy, otherwise I'd post them.)

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>>54738654
Morrigan Duffy (???, Night One)
An out of control sex explosion. Who even knows where she came from. Does what she likes when she likes, usually out of the back of her armored truck, usually being very loud. Doesn't take much seriously, loves to fuck, fight, and fall down. She has an uncanny familiarity with military ordinance, tactics, and arms. Can be cruel to her foes, not above taking ankles, kneecaps, or eyes, often to Bastion's disagreement. Typically called by her fixer when a problem needs to be solved directly. Into military tech, popular trideo, and clubbing. Hates authority, devil rats, delayed gratification.
-Skilled with most all firearms and explosives
-Decent driver, excellent gunner
-High AGI and REA, low LOG
-Stashes military arms everywhere, usually carries a heavy pistol
-Smartlink, full suite of ear and eye mods

These two own a small junk lot on the edge of a drainage channel, where Bastion does some legitimate work. He never really bought in to the whole mercenary bit, and has been trying to get life back the way it was. Business isn't good, though, and they're at risk of losing their place. Luckily, Morrigan still knows a few people. They work well as a team, operate professionally, and know how to make an entrance in the name of love, money, and novacoke.

>>54730222
trips of truth

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How do I make an infiltrator who actually is deadly enough to, you know, not need immediate heavy extraction if he gets rumbled?

>>54739920
Hey, chummer, who's the artist?

>>54741065
Prime Shadowrunner. So coked up on Stims and Kamikaze that he'd be more at home as an Eversor assassin.

What does /tg/ think of a street mage supped for melee combat & who likes to hit people with a spellblade shaped like a baseball bat?

>>54730369
The smell has not changed.

> Jawlines are shattered and rebuilt with tusk removal, body hair is lasered off for good, bone deposits and hard plates cut away, and even some delicate work with sweat glands and body oil production to reduce their output and make them more friendly to human noses.

>delicate work with sweat glands and body oil production to reduce their output and make them more friendly to human noses.

>Chrome Flesh, Metatype Reduction

>>54737636
Just create a sub-breed of naga with the shiva arms quality for two arms. Centaurs had similar treatment for human heads.

>>54741140
Spellblade is ridiculous, it's not exactly what you'd call a handicap. Nothing particularly wrong with it, aside from melee being awful.
>>54738933
Nothing canon and the secondary propulsion systems from Rigger 5.0 don't really support it; there's a hover mode, but it's just your standard air-pressure skirt.

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>>54741103
All me. I do character art, tokens, etc. for all my games. I've drawfriended here a little before too.

>>54741140
>Not playing a Jedi Church Mystic Adept who channels mana as Force techniques and fights with Spellblades.

>>54741461
Only if I named him Waldo Butters

>>54741482
You get me, Anon.

>>54737841
who is the artist?

>>54741551
see
>>54741448

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>be seattlite
>be gettin ginto shadowrun, interested how Seattle supposedly look in 2079
>Redmond is somhow a slum,
>Renton is somehow a white-collar humanis-leaning suburb
>Renraku built a fucking arcology on top of Pioneer Square
I know the writers didn't do any research on the area, but jesus fucking christ.

>>54739899
>>54739920
Much obliged.

>>54741065
Vibro blades, martial art, muscle toner, autoinjector with Kamikaze. Don't get hit.

>>54739899
>>54739920
Quick, everyone sum up their most recent character in this style.

>>54742168
Remember Seattle in the late 1980s?

>>54742255
No, because I was born in '95

>>54742320
Go read up on the state of American urban centres in the late 80s. Then you will understand.

>>54742333
Yeah but that doesn't explain how Redmond and Renton basically turned into strawmanned version of each other

>>54742462
Things change over time. Redmond underwent a massive economic boom in the 90s, and back in 1989 Microsoft wasn't anywhere near as big as it is now.

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>>54742516
>Things change over time.
>mfw SR is 28 years old
What do you guys want from SR30A?

>>54742741
The license to be sold to literally anyone else.

Do you think a dwarf doing martial arts would look dumb? Thinking of doing one but with focus on grappling rather than striking.

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>>54742462
Redmond was more or less abandoned in 2013 after the nuclear reactor there suffered a partial meltdown. NIMBY and such.

Crash of '29 did in the remaining computing-based commercial zones.

>>54731140
First question: Yes, the Echo Unlimited is cheaper, since it's a specialist deck. The idea behind these things is that they're cheaper than regular decks because ASDF is fixed, rather than having the flexibility of swappable stats.

Second question: Most decks and RCCs come in tablet form. The rules do cover custom cyber decks if you want to go for the vintage style, but it's +2 to Availability and +20% to cost to get it customized into a nonstandardized design (p.61 Data Trails, but I'm guessing you knew that if your asking about the Echo Unlimited). But it's what >>54731422 said.

>>54731490
Same as the original core, but the reference index at the back of the book incorporates some of the major xpacs.

Also supposedly streamlined Matrix rules and character creation, and an expanded armory and GM advice. I haven't checked to see if those are accurate.

>>54738511
>Any interest in some Roll20 token art?
Fuck yes.

>>54742248
Yurika Kuromatsu "Spacey" (Elf adept, 29)
Nothing on her radar but deepweed cigarettes and BTLs of outerspace; walking the fine line between complete stoner and manic nerd. Catastrophic accident in college got her a tasty criminal SIN, near-total family estrangement, a debt to the Yakuza and an expulsion from engineering school. Yurika was able to successfully refine her portable laser gun and fulfill her dream of travelling abroad however.
Hobbies include: motorcycle racing (dangerously,) talking to spirits (dangerously,) parkour through the barrens (dangerously) and arguing with debt collectors\drug dealers\the party's rigger\party shaman ( all dangerously.) Also enjoys old movies, a good cup of coffee and bonding with party face over loud engines\butts.

After running up a wall, she often forgets she's magical and not just high.
>Its stupid late, why did i stay up and write this rather than go to bed? Apologies for any shite spelling chummers.

>>54731422
Legal neural interfaces have unchanging IDs, while anyone can touch a keyboard. No sleep, caffeine and sugar can mess with your neural control enough a keyboard is a necessity to finish on time.

>>54742792
preferably Pegasus

>>54735820
>>54736654
Also Chalupacabras, but they exist in their own classification of weirdness, probably being genetically engineered.

>>54736989
Those aren't mutually exclusive. People might have a body odor fetish.

>>54742248
Nathaniel "Watchtower" Towers
Tall human, used to be part of a S&K troubleshooting squad. His whole team was taken out by a powerful Shedim. This left him shook up & wanting out. Decided to take advantage & instead work on the streets. He now works as the squad leader of a group of shadowrunners, using his magic to give him spacial awareness, live decection & telepathic communication. He is a one man watchtower directing & protecting his unit. He lets himself get lost in the routine & strategy of plans & runs so that he doesnt have to face the horrors he sees when he has a few moments quiet.
Good body, & casting stats, terrible charisma
Focused concentration & foci to keep sustaining multiple spells
Uses an Ares Pred in combat if he has to. Mostly focuses on non detection & buffing his squad to take out targets. Big fan of tactical belts & gear, tries to always be prepped.

>>54737636
Naga are supposed to be giant, talking reptiles and inexplicably have a 2/7 Charisma score. Going by the numbers your solution is the only one that makes sense.

>>54741216
the problem is, that's also retarded for centaurs.
Like, NO centaurs should have horse heads except for unfortunate freaks.

>>54741065
'Infiltrator' isn't really its own thing. Street Samurais already have tricked out Agility and Intuition, so you need to work it from the other direction. Make a street samurai, then invest points in the relevant skills.

>>54739729
>Jet Moto
I just have something in my eye. It's probably just nostalgia.

>>54742901
Dwarves are short, but they're built so thick and solid that they fight in Ork weight classes.

No. It would not look dumb.

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>>54743240
thanks

>>54743244
we've gone over this, the horse head on human body on horse body thing looks dumb as fuck.

If I made a centaur character with two sets of cyberlegs with hydraulic jacks in them, would they stack?

I need pics of cute Ork girls. You think you guys can hook me up?

>>54743275
As long as their in all the legs, then yes, they should.

>>54743275
You need hydraulic jacks of the same level in all your legs for them to work, so no you would not get twice the bonus, you would just get the standard benefit.

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>>54743287
Here's one for you before I head to work, fampai.

>>54743275
>>54743295
>>54743352
The question is worded kind of poorly.

If he's asking "Does two pairs of cyberlegs with hydraulic jacks stack?" Then no, see >>54743352

If he's asking does a Centaur's native x1/x4/+4 movement get the bonuses of hydraulic jacks if he has the same rating in all 4 legs, then yes.

>>54743268
You've gone over it, and you agree with yourself. Big surprise there.

>>54743275
HJs provide bonuses per two modded legs.
>This implant requires you to have two cyberlegs with a hydraulic jack of identical Ratings in each leg.

It stands that if you have four legs and four HJs, you get the full bonus you would gain from one set of HJs twice.

>>54743449
That's the kind of rules lawyering I would expect a GM worth his salt to shut down. The spirit of the rule obviously is meant for any core metatype that has no more than two legs, and thus should mean "all of their legs". If it was done for a centaur, as either a player or GM, I would require the character to put HJs in all four before getting the bonus for what would otherwise be a single pair.

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>>54743287

>>54743511
That is a human wearing makeup. No hard feelings, it's an easy mistake to make.

>>54743491
It's an entirely valid and situationally useful interpretation for what is otherwise a mostly inconvenient and recognisable lower body replacement. That you don't like it and want to change it based on feels is another matter.

>>54743537
See also; metatype reduction, body sculpting, dietware, etc.

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>>54743537
You are mistaken
But its ok. I forgive you

>>54743574
>>54743607
Is the green skin a fashion statement or...

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>>54742248
Hideyo Waifu, Face (Human, 24)
Trying to please an almost-uncountable amount of girlfriends, paramours, one night flings and pursuits of the night leaves Hideyo with no time to actually work for a living, so the lucrative career of a shadowrunner is almost a perfect fit for his lifestyle. Hideyo's only goal while shadowrunning is to get the job done quick, quiet and while looking as good as possible. Getting the commcode of the cute receptionist is as good as paydata for him, and often proves to be surprisingly helpful a little later down the track.
- Can't shoot for shit
- Dabbles in unarmed combat, specialising in grapples and touch attacks
>Created as a test of a random quality selector in Chummer; Trust Fund I (Sleeping around, convincing girls to buy him shit), Made Man (Dating girls), National SIN (Yay, prerequisite qualities worked!), with the Traveller lifestyle quality.
It's probably for the best that I never actually get to play
>>54743275
Bonuses from the same source don't stack, as a general rule. RAW would only require two legs be modified (Which kiiiind of works in theory, modifying the hind legs would assist with leaping, but you'd have issues with the unmodified forelegs absorbing the landing impact), but I'd say you need two sets.

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Is there any point to the physical barrier spell, or is it still a waste of karma? If you use normal barrier rules it's just "Oh you have a gun? Yeah you shoot right through it into the squishy dipshit on the other side." Or "Goon McBeefshit decides to full auto your barrier and well would you look at that he's not only taken your barrier down but also hit you as well." The only practical use I can see is blocking indirect spells if you have no counterspelling dice, but then you can circumvent that by using indirect spells or just do enough damage to take down the barrier.

>>54743560
That's not feels, it's common fucking sense, if you only try to propel half the centaur body upward, it's not going anywhere. You would need a hydraulic jack in each leg for it to work at all, it's not going to give you extra distance to have two sets.

>>54743793
I'm not gonna say anything, but one time i was playing and we were in a room where a bunch of yokels were gonna do an explosive breach into the room.

The mage set up a physical barrier right in front of the door so when the breach went off, the explosion was directed straight backwards which instantly killed the entire enemy team save for the cybered-up troll who was half-dead anyway.

Another time we had a high-speed chase and the mage set up a quick barrier in the air right beside the car, which ended up instantly decapitating an enemy biker that hit it right after.

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>>54742901
Thick with muscle

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>>54743806
Sure, mate. Clearly there's no way for a horse to jump but springing from all four legs. You are the legend we've been waiting for to finally figure it out, and horses have been doing it wrong.

>>54744270
>springing from all four legs.
>Pepe le Horse

>>54744291
http://fromyoutube.com/watch?v=wNl9ksUI-bU

>>54742248
Joshua "Makoto" Selman - human, 48
An up-and-coming company man for Renraku in the '50's, Joshua's niche was sensitive stateside work that couldn't have Japanese fingerprints on it. Even so, looking and acting to part for his conservative bosses was part of the job: Makoto learned fluent Japanese, restricted his vices to shochu, read Musashi and Kiyomasa, and dyed his hair black.

A run went south in '60, and Makoto got hung out to dry. He was, after all, just a gaijin. Nabbed by the heat, he did hard time, a stint of almost 15 years. Toilet hooch replaced the expensive shochu.

Prison overcrowding lead to his early release but he emerged into an unrecognizable world. His old contacts were long gone and Renraku refused to remember his name. Still decked out in vintage ware that was SOTA back when the current crop of runners was in diapers, his only real option is to use the skills he has at street-level instead. Wired reflexes, dermal plating, mirrorshade eyes, it's just enough to keep him competing.

>>54744270
Okay, with that argument the second set still would have no additional effect as you aren't using it to drive the motion, but you would still need it to absorb the impact of landing.
Furthermore When you're talking about Hydraulic jacks it's not their natural jumping motion it's mechanically launched, so it would probably actually be like >>54744291

>>54744952
It's less an argument than it is calling out >>54743806 for being stupid and saying you need four hydraulically jacked legs to jump.

> it's not their natural jumping motion it's mechanically launched
Everything but "it's mechanically launched" is your assumption, and not one that I share.

>>54743560
>>54743806
>>54744270
>>54744291
>>54744952
>>54745648
You guys know there are rules for quadrupeds already in the section on liminal body mods, right?

>>54743432
Wait, you don't think it looks dumb as fuck?
Holy shit, man, that's a first ever. We should stick you in some kind of natural curiosity museum.

>>54747044
I also think it looks fine.
Really drives the point home that these are wild animals, not humans. Not even closely.
Yes, they look kinda like those in the myths (from a distance you may think the upper body looks like a human body. Remember that it's head looks vaguely horse like, not exactly.)
Yes, they are sapient and capable of speech.
No, their connection to humans is only a slight morphological one

>>54747272
>yes, they look kinda like the myth
If you're blind, maybe.

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>>54747272
>Remember that it's head looks vaguely horse like, not exactly.

>>54747272
Looking vaguely horse-like is a popular homebrew to help alleviate the plumbfuck retardedness of having a horse head on a human torso.
you know, like
>>54738022

>>54747339
That has got to be one of the shadowrun writer's fetishes.

>>54747364
Well, they do the same thing with mermaids, so probably.
Though, magical fox girls are all human except for the ears.
So I think we have some conflicting writers and fetishes.

>>54747321
>lower body of a horse
check
>upper torso of a human
check
>arms with fingers
check
>human head
not check

seems fine to me

>>54747339
>>54747345
>homebrew
what?
>>54735450
>and a vaguely equine head with an extended
>cranium perched on an long neck.
That's from the actual book. Unless the sourcebooks are now homebrew
relying on artists is a really bad idea. Or would you say that orks have horns now?

>>54747395
You know what else is from the actual book?
This shit
>>54747339
If you are claiming they are not, in fact, retarded looking horse heads on human bodies and instead look vaguely horse like, then you are correct and have joined our collective homebrew to help unfuck how retarded default centaurs look. Congratulations.

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>>54747395
>that man with a head of an octopus looks vaguely like a human
I never thought I'd meet someone who actually falls for octodad

>>54747420
I thought what you wanted human heads?

>>54747435
Vaguely horse like is a good mix. Also works for mermaids to make them less dumb looking.

>>54747433
what octopus are you speaking of? I only see a fine human gentleman there. Is the octopus hiding in the background?

>>54747433
It's more like:
That man with a human torso, human arms, human legs and a vaguely octopus looking head looks vaguely like a human from a distance

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>>54747475
>vaguely like a human from a distance

>>54747484
anon, that comparison was towards >>54747433

>>54747475
>vaguely octopus like
>vaguely horse like
Welcome to the homebrew club where we work to minimize how retarded the books are.

>>54747501
>homebrew
>>54747395

>>54747497
>he thinks that looks vaguely humanlike from a distance
You wouldn't be able to catch a pod person if you were the last man on earth.

>>54747520
So, basically, at this point you agree completely with the stances of the side you are arguing with, with the exception of where, specifically, you think shadowrun is being retarded.

>>54747395
>Or would you say that orks have horns now?
The problem with this argument is that the orks with horns are isolated cases while the centaurs with undoubtedly full horse heads are all the pictures we get. And there's several of them.

They can't say one thing then repetedly show us another. If you bring a dog to show and tell and say it's a monkey, we're all gonna look at it and say "no that's a fucking dog you plonker".

>>54747605
At this point, it's really a discussion between him, who thinks the artists are being stupid, and us, who think that the writers are in on it too due to not ever actually stopping the artists.
Either way we bypassed the key point, which is that horse heads on human body on horse body looks dumb.

>>54747558
chummer, you are arguing that because they are depicted with horse heads that they have horseheads
I'm arguing that trusting the artist over the writer is a DUMB thing to do, and that you should refer to text over art

>>54747659
And that argument you are having is entire perpendicular to the actual discussion at hand, which we seem to have come to terms on. I'm happy with that. More than you usually get on the 4chans.

>>54747659
>I'm arguing that trusting the artist over the writer is a DUMB thing to do
In this case that's fair, but it shouldn't be a dumb thing to do though. Editors should make sure that art and text align to give you a consistent picture. But the Centaur description was copypasted from 3e to 4e and then on to 5e, but no changes were made to the art.

Shitty editors leads to internet discussions.

Honestly, the vaguely humanoid point works good on all the shit that should be vaguely humanoid according depictions but isn't. Nagas, mermaids, centaurs, whatever.
And then you have to adjust everyone's population numbers because the shadowrun writers love their "This guy is so rare there's only like 12 of them in the world" type species.

>>54747693
>And that argument you are having is entire perpendicular to the actual discussion at hand, which we seem to have come to terms on.
In that case I'm sorry, but my sensors seem to be perpendicular to your discussion too.
What exactly are you arguing against/for?

>>54749209
Given the conversation, probably that horse head on man body on horse body looks dumb.

If Nagas are humanoid, they shouldn't have eyebrows. Discuss.

>>54749638
If they have skin, they should have hair. Hair and scales are all keratin.

If they're just covered in scales, then yeah no hair.

So, I've got some questions for everyone, regarding some of the old-school-style weapons, like the S-K LeMat revolver, and the lever-actions.

Starting with the obvious question, has anyone here used them, and if so, thoughts?

Second, the lever-actions, specifically the rule that they use cased ammo only. I've been mulling this over, and I have an argument as to why this is a stupid restriction, and is another example of CGL knowing dick-all about guns.

My argument is, way back when, tube-fed repeaters were stuck with round-nosed ammo because putting Spitzer bullets tip-to-primer in an enclosed tube is fucking stupid and asking for accidental discharges. However, caseless ammo doesn't have a primer in SR, the fuel encasing the bullet is set off with an electric spark, or some other equivalent. Stacking caseless ammo tip-to-bottom in a tube magazine is completely safe, and the restriction seems to exist solely to give GMs a way to gimp an already potentially-underpowered weapon by nailing players with the "left casings at the scene" card. Hence, I'd recommend that at best, the restriction is ignored, and at worst, paying for an electric firing modification as normal should allow lever-action rifles the ability to fire caseless ammo. Thoughts?

>>54750153
Yes, I'm aware this is the last game I should be sperging out over gun design in, but fuck it, I expect some basic knowledge of how guns work from my RPGs.

>>54741448
As much as I like this, I feel like they'd be made by any half decent facial recognition software in the sixth world.

>>54743066
I want to see this character doing the "I too like to live dangerously" thing, but since I am not a drawfag, I can only put the idea into all your heads.

Here's a question, are Knight-Errant cops any less enthusiastic about "doing good" than national cops? I mean they are for-profit for sure, but that doesn't change the nature of their job.

>>54750808
Not really. PR is a thing, as is public perception.

>>54750153
Can't say, haven't used them before. Probably best used as a discount sniper rifle to support the team from a distance.

Second question, since there's no actual difference between cased and uncased in the crunch, it's mostly there for bookkeeping. With a little bit of experience and/or common sense, the GMs will probably ignore the matter entirely.

>>54750153
Oh, and one other thing. Cutting a repeater down to a Mare's Leg, what would be the way to go about this?

>>54751003
Rules for removing stocks exist as part of the weapon mod system.

>>54751685
And cutting down the barrel?

>>54751793
check hard targets trogger

Anybody run out in Vancouver? Or Berlin ('77)? I want to start my Shadowrun campaign sequel in one of these places, but don't know as much as I'd like about either.

>>54751828
After going through options, I might actually go for a Marlin in .45-70 cut down into a Mare's Leg as a Trog sidearm, because it'd be fucking hilarious.

Also, the Winchester 2067 is the only lever-action in Gun H(e)aven 3 marked Vintage, so no Smartlink for that.

>>54752088
Or Brazil, forgot that Brazil was one of my options I had.

>>54746199
I struggle to call the Liminal body section "rules"

Having a hard time with thinking up a character name.

What's a good name for a depressed dwarf prostitute?

>>54752574
Droopy

>>54729325
Who maintains the pastebin? I'm looking for a book I can't quite find.

>>54752844
A dirty tripfag. Which book?

>>54752844
Go to the PDF share thread.

>>54752844
>I'm looking for a book I can't quite find.
Ask your local library?

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>>54752291
Do Brazil. The Metropole is probably the coolest city in the entire setting:
http://shadowrun.wikia.com/wiki/Metropole

It's a city of 200,000,000 people. It's a sprawl that contains a large nation worth of folks in one bloated, oversized city. A city so huge that being from certain neighborhoods is as big of a difference as being from different states in the US.

And it's smack-dab right next to Amazonia, for thousands of miles of Awakened hijinks fucking galore.

>>54752574
>What's a good name for a depressed dwarf prostitute?
Shortstack.

>>54752574
Have her be a heavy smoker and call her Smokestack.

>>54752574
Copper
Cause she's half a 2 copper whore

>>54753291
It also shits on metahumans politically and socially beyond even standard sprawls. Only play there or in Yakutsk if your players are cool with the sort of oppression SJWs think they deal with.

>>54753512
It kinda fucking doesn't? Amazonia outside the boundaries of Metropole is an Awakened shithole, but Metropole itself is completely its own thing.

>>54752574
What's she look like?

>>54752574
5 dollar foot-long.

>>54754098
Cybergenitalia making a come-back I see.

>>54754134
Why do you think she's depressed?

>>54754233
I dunno, I sort of figure she had depression before being a whore and it was that lack of self-esteem that lead to her career.

Hey /srg/, I'm fairly new to Shadowrun tabletop, but I've been playing D&D for quite a while. I'm trying to get the lads in to it, too, but I'm wondering if anybody has any tips for making maps and stuff for SR, mainly combat-type stuff?

Is that necessary? I've generally been more of a player than a DM/GM, so I'm a bit unsure.

>>54754655
Well, since you're not playing in a medieval timeframe, you don't need to make maps.

You can just google floorplans of buildings. Or buy Doorkickers and use the mapmaker in that.

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>>54750350
You're absolutely right, but mosaic censoring is neither cool nor rad.

>>54743057
Posting tokens from my last group, see >>54741448.

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>>54755037
And that's the crew.

>>54753586
>>54753291
If you want a shitty sprawl, go for Lagos.

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>>54755256
But sometimes you don't want a bunch of AK-toting warlords running around. Metropole can have dangerous aspects to it, but it's not a total lawless warzone.

>>54755314
AK toting warlords are the neighbouring states. Lagos is corporations with zero oversight, and gang-ridden slums.

>>54753512
>>54753291

After doing some reading I'm sort of softening up for Metropole definitely. I don't think I want to do Berlin (the whole point was to have the Runners getting finessed by S-K, but that can really happen anywhere). And Vancouver is geographically closest to where my Campaign 1 ended, but that plotline was kind of shortsighted.

The Brazilian plotline I wanted to write was about an A-corp ran by fashionable Vampires looking to do some spooky Mayan shit. I can't find the Shadows Metropole book though.

>>54753139
Shadows in Metropole
>>54753147
I'll look for this

>>54755256
No, go GeMiTo. Though you'd have to make up 90% of it yourself.

I just downloaded the 5e zip, but uh, which character sheets would you boys recommend using?

>>54756147
Most people use Chummer or Herolab to make their characters, so use the sheets from that. I don't mind https://www.hades-blumenservice.de/charactersheet/index-en.html, aside from how pompous an ass the dev is.

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>>54756060
>an A-corp ran by fashionable Vampires looking to do some spooky Mayan shit

Awaken, my masters!

>New to Shadowrun tabletop
>Get to character creation
>Get to part two
What the fuck am I reading? None of this shit makes sense.

How do I make a mage that doesnt suck?

Who exactly make up the electorate that votes for Corporate Court Justices? Is it the standing Justices, or the AAA corps, or all rated corps?

>>54756502
AYAYAAAAAA

I'm totally gonna do some long since hidden 4th world vampires in south america trying to discover an ancient artifact to rule the world now.

>>54756828
What's Part 2 again? Is that distributing Priorities?

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>>54756937
Everything from this part forward has me scratching my head.
This shit is obtuse and overly-wordy as hell.

>>54756996
You have Priorities from A to E, and five things to put those into. None of those things can have the same Priority as any other (there's an alternate chargen method that removes that restriction). Refer to the table to see what you get for a given Priority level.

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>>54738654
Found some old drawings of them from early in their career.

Is anime character art the biggest red flag?

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>>54757168

>>54757171
Anime clothing.

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>>54757208

>>54752574
Penny, cause she's small cheap & dirty

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>>54757237
And that's it.

>>54757156
Creating a character in general makes me want to shoot myself. Even using Chummer I don't fucking understand anything. This is fucking retarded.
Google gives me fucking nothing because everyone assumes I've already had my dick sucked by six GM's and know what I'm doing and just need a refresher.
I'm trying to learn this shit so I can GM it for my buds, because otherwise we'll NEVER EVER play this and stick to DnD/d20 forever, but I can't make fucking heads or tails of this obtuse shit that gives me zero direction for anything. At least if I pop open DnD 5e it just goes
>Step 1 do this
>Step 2 do this
>Step 3 do this
>Done
But here it's fucking
>Step 1 do this calculus problem
>Step 2 solve world hunger
>Step 3 do half an a-press in mario64 and go to a parallel universe

I want to make a ork phys ad, focused on punching & being awesome (total pink mohawk)

His name is Azura Oni, & he wants to fight shit & make himself a legend

I was thinking of taking the berserker mentor spirit & the spirit mask ability from Forbidden Arcana. I plan on getting the best Reflexes, berserk, killer hands & combat sense. Is tnis a good build? What else should i take? What might i need to change?

>>54757328
It's really not hard my man.
>set Priority of thing
>here are some points/cash/block of abilities
>spend points/cash

It's 5e's shit editing that's causing problems, try pulling one of the older core books to get an idea of how it works. I recommend 3e, 4e defaults to full point-buy, with priority-gen in a supplement.

If you're having difficulty with this, SR might not be the game for you.

>>54757508
It's not JUST the priority thing, mate. I understand that little chart. It's everything AFTER that that makes me want to deepthroat a 12-gauge.

>>54757508
When it came to starting out, the point buy system if 4e definately was easier. The priority system is like; WHICH ONE OF THESE THINGS DO YOU PRIORITIZE THE MOST but you honestly don't have a clue what should take priority if you try to make a character for yourself when you're new to SR.

>>54757546
>>54757508
I cut off the other half of my post because I'm a mong, but I was going to say that I'll try a look at 3 or whatever and see if that helps.

>>54757546
The point about shit editing still stands. Pull 4e core and Runner's Companion or whatever it's called, see if you can make sense of the chargen methods from those, then see if that's made a difference.

>>54757604
It's important to note that there was a significant mechanical change between 3e and 4e, so be cautious of that.

>>54757604
Dude have a go at creating a character in 4e. If you manage to wrap your head around that, converting it to 5e is pretty easy. As pointed out, mechanics between 4e and 5e are pretty close while 3e is very different.

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>ork wants to set up a block party for the neighborhood with real meat, none of that synthetic shit here
>only problem is that the orks contact couldn't pull through for him and without it theres no cookout
>enter shadowrunners

Would this be a good run for street scum/level?

If so, what are some complications I could throw their way?

I was thinking that their lead on a truck full of meat could be compromised with the driver promising it to a gang of techno barbarians and if they deal with it then he'll give them what they need but I'm not sure. This run would be for new players and would be immediately after food fight btw.

>>54757849
Being honest, seeing your pic, any Payday heist could work as a run.

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>>54757849

I like the basic setup, but I think a straightforward ambush or chase to loot the truck would be simpler for a newer group.

If you want a during-run complication, you could have some other Barrens types also want the meat once the truck's stopped and opened - hungry devil rats, hungry orphans, hungry gangers, you get the idea.

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>>54757262
I love you

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>>54758286
The plan so far right now is that they'd get a tip (spoonfed) that an 18 wheeler full of meat is passing through the barrens of Boca Raton in X amount of days. This would let them figure out if they just want to ambush it, remove or change the delivery route through hacking, or just trying to convince the driver that he should just give them the keys.

If they do decide to confront him in the barrens they'd face some very token resistance from the driver and maybe 1 or 2 guards who obviously don't want to be there.

Shortly after the technos would show up and they'd be attacked by some guys wielding melee weapons and some shitty broken down guns or a chase through the barrens in a mad max type thing.

I think after that the run would end and they'd get a small neighborhood where the other gangs wouldn't mess with them.

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>>54758435

Yeah, that sounds like a solid run.

>>54758320
>Unrelated person here
While I like the picture, I'm not sure I see the connection.

>>54758483
Thanks anon. I also came up with another run that will probably be the last one before they start moving up. The crew gets contacted by some rich corporate kids and have to enroll them in public school and escort them to the prom.

>>54758563

Fur totes

[For totally]

>>54738022
Naga's spend a few editions pretending to be non-sapient, which was a MUCH easier trick to pull off when you look like a huge snake than when you look like waifu bait.

>>54758768
Just like horses, eh?

>>54757328
It's ok to be frustrated bro. Chummer does a lot of heavy lifting , praise be. Once you settle on focusing on how the Priorities work it will click. I went the route of trying to make my own character (i tried to make 2-3 of them just cause) and told my players to do their best and build their own.

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>>54753890
I whipped this up in a few minutes, i'd say she's going for this kind of burlesque look combined with gangster-chic. I'd say this doesn't represent the final look i might illustrate but it's something. Ignore the wonky stomach.

>>54754252
>>54754233
Her cool backstory is that she's a K-E cop deep undercover.

Her corporate SIN has an economic stranglehold on her, and someone from above wanted her to suffer, hence why she got the cover that involves her getting railed in the crotch on a daily basis, among other things.

This abuse has eroded her rookie respect for law enforcement and herself, and has caused all sorts of emotional problems, not the least of which is a mild addiction to biosculpting her body.

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>>54755256
You seriously don't know anything about the Metropole, do you? There are shitty parts, but the point is that it's a nation-sized city of 200 million people, with all of the breadth and diversity of opportunity that implies. It's not one giant slum, it's everything, from posh corporate high rises, to tropical high-fashion boutiques, to tourist traps, to slums, to urban paramilitary compounds and more.

It's a free city, with all of the corporate presence and wealth that implies, with the favelas standing in for other cities' Barrens.

Hi, This is john from the Hotline Seattle dating service. We've arranged a date for you at 9pm on the corner of 5th and south Jackson. Remember, Dress to kill omae!

Shadowrun 5e game, taking place on tuesday nights at 8pm EST. https://discord.gg/D9bRWD3

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>>54761175
>not Miami

For shame chummer.

>>54760398
See
>>54753502

>>54761175
Are you trying to get spectators or players?

I'm loving that linking discord games is a thing that we do in these threads now.

>>54761401
Players.

>>54758650
The thumbnail makes it look like a pastel drawing of a gorrila's arm holding a gun.

>>54756872
There is implied to be an Obsidiman liferock somewhere in the Andes that Hideo Yoshida is digging for. That would be a fuckload of essence or 'spiritual/life energy' as it was described in Earthdawn. Might be a place to start.

I have some questions about rigging since i want to create some recurring antagonists for my group.

So lets assume Atzlan (because the world needs some generic badguy curp.) Finally managed to rub two braincells together and startet with implanting the Stirrup Interface into people (first convicetd criminals, later young and trained orks,trolls,dwarves) and having those people crontroled by veterans with decades of field experience.

What would be some efficient tactics and equipment for those remote soldiers ?

Three ear antenna and two datajacks per body is pretty much a given and
also pretty cheap.

>>54761411
Rad. I don't have Tuesdays reliably free, but good luck. I've got high hopes for this trend.

Does Lightning Reflexes stack with Jazz, or does Jazz fall under the augmentations that it bans?

>>54762419
As much Reaction as they can cram in one body, a Simsense Booster, and the best Control Rig they can afford.

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>>54762552
Standard interpretation is that drugs are their own type of thing and stack with pretty much everything.

>>54762613
Even Lightning Reflexes? Its wording is stricter than most Initiative enhancements.

>>54762562
>Simsense Booster
What the frick is a Simsense Booster and where do i find it ?

Reaction booster shoudl do the job, together with stirrup (which also acts as Move-by-Wire of it's rating) and matrix initiative they should have some monstrus initiative and reaction.

>>54762419

Also, how would noise affect the meat puppets ?

>>54757849
Yeaaaa Imma just gonna steal this idea real quick...

>>54762933
A Simsense Booster is a community upgrade which gives +1d6 additional to both Coldsim and Hotsim Initiative.

And the standard is both Reaction Enhancers and Wired Reflexes. They stack for up to +6 Reaction.

With biocompatibility, Adapsin, and higher ware grades, they'd ideally have:

>Datajack
>Antenna 3
>Control Rig 3
>Reaction Enhancers 3
>Wired Reflexes 3
>A phenomenal commlink with a Simsense Booster

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>>54762906
Oh right, the quality. Sorry, didn't have books handy at the time.
>This quality is not cumulative with any other initiative enhancement, be it technological, chemical, or magical.
No drugs.

>>54763004
I'd argue you can install the Booster straight onto the RCC, with it being " like a comlink, but better in order have fun with drones".

>>54763041
An RCC is not useful for someone who's going to be Jumped In instead of running autosofts. Get the commlink instead. Implant it, if you want.

>>54763132
Unless they are being carried by the bio-drone "Master-Blaster" like, the guy in charge will need a RCC to control the meatpuppet by remote at distance. You can't jump-in through a regular comlink.

>>54737701
Dark elves were a thing in 3th?
Sorry, total newb here Only know Shadowrun from the VGs

>>54763178
Yes, you can. An RCC has absolutely no bearing on Jumping In. Only the Control Rig does. An RCC is only useful to a Jump-In Rigger for noise reduction, if that. RCC are for remote-command riggers.

Is there any way to increase your limit on positive qualities? I want to make an unaugmented character with Lucky, Lightning Reflexes, Revels in Murder, and Daredevil, but that's not normally possible at chargen.

>>54763893
it's an elf metavariant. you can find them in Runners Companion (4e) or Run Faster (5e)

>>54764082
if you can, get some of those qualities in play.
if not, then too bad for you

>>54764172
I could technically get some in play, but they're '10+ entire runs later' levels of expensive with the post-chargen price doubling. It'll take so long to earn the karma that there wouldn't be any point anymore, especially since games don't usually last that long anyway.

>>54763178
>>54763924

I think that 3 antenna and 2 datajacks per bio drone would completely negate noise, as long as they carry some sattelite dish with or close to them.

>>54764536
At that point, you could just include a retrans relay. Some kind of Ruthenium micro-blimp.

>>54756846
Justices aren't voted for, they're appointed by their corporation. Some corps have votes by senior board members on who should be their appointees (and Horizon uses the Consensus to determine theirs), others appoint directly.

Market Panic has a good level of detail on it, because a lot of Justices are turning over as their terms end.

>>54764212
Lucky is a shitty trap Quality anyways, same as all of those that increase your Attribute max by a single Level.

You can get way more usefull stuff for the spent ressources.