Critical Role Thread

From Marisha's (Keyleth) AMA on Plebbit:

>Hmm. Yeah, ya know, it took some time and acceptance. It also took a few moments of realization both on my part, and some of the audience members. After the episode with the Kerrek intervention (and on a few other occasions), I got flooded with a decent amount of letters from people saying that they realized their hatred towards Keyleth, her insecurities and self doubts and innate ability to put her foot in her mouth... their hatred stemmed from familiarity. The qualities they despised the most were the same qualities they despised in themselves. "Keyleth is my dark mirror" many have similarly said. And, truthfully, while the negativity doesn't fully go away, it does seem to have subsided.

>Those who don't feel that way, and still hate her? Well, I dunno. I've heard a million theories from my cast mates, coworkers, friends, fellow fans, and I'm sure many of them are true for many people. Some people want to see a bunch of flawless heroes kicking ass, and they cant comprehend why I'd want to play someone who doesn't believe they're a hero. Some despise the way I play her, or think I'm doing Druids, and therefore the game, a disservice. And, I think some are just looking for something, ANYTHING, to be angry at, and anger promotes more anger. Mostly, I try to ignore it. Regardless, It's taken time to come to the understanding that the problem is not with me, and is honestly something I still struggle with from time to time. I get hate mail in my inbox after almost every game. (There are a lot of word filters on my incoming email these days). And, after most games, I tend to get tweets that say, "Oh Marisha, just ignore the haters! There was nothing wrong with what you did tonight!", and almost always my response is, "Wait... what did I do? Not sure what they're referring to this time..."

>>54685421
Clueless as per usual. "I do nothing wrong so it must be everyone else's desire to be angry!" Please.

>>54685421
>"Wait... what did I do? Not sure what they're referring to this time..."
Perhaps the problem is her ENTIRE LACK OF SELF AWARENESS?

My only problem is that she is suppose to be like one of the most wise mortals in the world (22 wis I think ) yet she doesn't think or act wisely which bothers me

LETS HAVE A RECAP OF /TG/S RECCOMENDED BATTLE STRATEGY AGAINST VECNA PART 1/3!!!


Well, the best ways they can beat up Vecna is by going into the fight with as many non-Concentration buffs on the party as they can:

> Freedom of Movement on the martial DPS and support, at the very least Vax, Vex, and Scanlan.
> Heroes Feast the night before, probably in Scanlan's mansion.
> Focus fire one target at a time, don't split up the damage sources.
> If you can temporarily enchant Percy's guns so they can affect Vecna, do it.
> Protect Scanalan, he's the only one who can Counterspell Vecna's big spells and the save or suck stuff.
> Keep Pike alive to provide healing and potentially burn Vecna's own Counterspells.

The most important thing is this:

> Keyleth has to become another support character during the fight, and look to use her staff charges during the fight when the opportunity is available.

This means stuff like Lesser or Greater Restoration when people get paralyzed or mind controlled, Healing Word should be read nearly every round to top people up or get them moving again if they go down via damage and not by something like Power Word Kill, Finger of Death, or Disintegrate.

But this means Marisha would have to actually play her character to its fullest potential, and she just doesn't know how to do that.
The Death Knight will probably try to Banishment Grog once again like in the last fight, and then look to bop the support/squishies.

>>54685556
PART 2/3!!!
For the moment, let's assume everyone in the party is level 18 when they go into the fight against Vecna just to keep the options simple (I know they won't be; some will be level 20, others will be 19, and I think Pike will be the only level 18 in the fight).

Level 18 Moon Druid:
24 Prepared spells.

Level 18 War Cleric:
23 Prepared spells, 10 Domain spells.

Level 18 Lore Bard:
24 known spells

Level 13 Assassin Rouge/5 Vengeance Paladin:
Four 1st level, Two 2nd level slots.

Level 14 Ranger/4 Assassin Rogue:
8 spells known, Four 1st level, Three 2nd and 3rd level, One 4th level spell slots

Level 15 Berserker Barbarian/Battlemaster Fighter 3:
3 maneuvers, lots of Rage

Level 18 Gunslinger Fighter:
Lots of trickshot uses and two Action Surges, along with Hex

Pre-battle buffs:

Heroes Feast the night before. Between the Cleric and the Druid, they blow their 4th level slots and a 5th level slot from the Druid on Freedom of Movement on the party.

Bard looks to use a mix of Bardic Inspiration and Cutting Words along with his higher level spell slots on Counterspelling the large stuff from Vecna (Finger of Death, Power Word Kill, Disintegrate, etc.), uses the lower level stuff to keep everyone topped up via Healing Word.

Cleric uses her spells on Cure Wounds, Mass Cure Wounds, Heal, etc., while helping to beat up Delilah if she's on the ground. Otherwise Cleric stays in back and is on defensive to protect Bard and Druid.

Druid looks to provide more healing or use some save or suck spells, or the spells in the staff, to try and burn through Legendary Resists.

Grog, Percy, and the Twins blow up Delilah, looking to take her out quickly before she can overwhelm the combined focus firing that the Bard will draw upon himself. After that, you kill or disable the Death Knight, ideally by removing his weapon and then subjecting him to Hold Person or Banishment.

After that, you blow EVERYTHING on Vecna, overwhelm him with action economy.

>>54685568
PART 3/3!!!!!

My guess is that Vecna and Delilah will look to take out Scanlan first, being the only arcane caster in the group who can potentially thwart their arcane spells. The Death Knight will probably try to Banishment Grog once again like in the last fight, and then look to bop the support/squishies.

My guess is Delilah will shift her focus off Scanlan and go for Pike and Keyleth once she sees the amount of protection they're giving him and look to use save or suck spells on them, or do something like Finger of Death, Power Word Kill, or Disintegrate on them. Meanwhile, Vecna's hovering in the air, teleporting around and firing off Cone of Cold with Legendary Actions, and using his turn to fire off his own large spells like Power Word Kill, Finger of Death, Disintegrate, and trying to Dispel the buffs on the party (a thing not normally allowed, but Matt's done it before against the party).

It's probably only when things start turning south on Vecna that he's going to start tapping into his divine powers and look to auto-succeed on some of his spells, or recharge the higher level spell slots burned earlier in the fight. At that point it's going to be a race to see if action economy and some lucky rolls let VM over-ride the lich god.

My personal hope is that he goes to leave the fight via Gate, thinking that at least him attaining godhood is enough and that leaving the Mortal Plane means the other gods can't deal with him, only for a weak and barely alive Scanlan to blow his 9th level Counterspell - a thing he'd been saving the entire fight - with something to the effect of him mooning the lich god and farting so loud it disrupts his Gate spell.

>>54685583
PART 4/3 WHICH IS JUST BULLSHIT NOT!-STRATEGY BUT MORE THEORY!!!
Its doable against a ~lvl30 wiz and his 2 (but probably more) buffed up companions but if Matt even tries to win the fight its all over.
Vecna has a modified "Hold monster/person" called "Hold Creature" that works on any creature alive or unliving.
His spells are DC 25 at a minimum.
He should have 3 spellslots for every level, or at least 2 for 9th lvl because he is ~10lvls above a regular wizard.
He should have the "wish" spell which gives him infinite resources to fuel things like 'clone' 'create dead' 'symbol' 'glyph of warding' etc. So he can just have spent the last 2 days booby trapping the place into hell and having glyphs rigged to summon like 8+ CR5 Balguras.
If Matt really wants to kill them just place glyphs everywhere with the "Hypnotic Pattern" , "Bestow Curse" and "Hold Person" then even Delilah and the Death Knight can take VM on and win.

I can only assume that Matt is going to pull his punch with preparation because if he didn't it would just be game over.
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Personally I think they're going to get an airlift into the base of Vecna and do a sort of magical HALO drop into the throne room of Vecna.

You can make the siege/approach on the ground terrible, but even Vecna can't do glyphs and trap wards in the air without making his own floating terrain, which he can do, but would he have been able to do that in maybe 2-3 days of post godhood preparation, when you're busy getting ready to siege Vasselheim with a horde of undead?

>>54685583
>only for a weak and barely alive Scanlan to blow his 9th level Counterspell
The problem with a counterspell war is that it favors the original caster. Think of Scanlan saving his level 9 spell, the entire fight, only to have Vecna counter it.

if VM don't bring extra people i don't think they can outpower the amount of save or die that vecna's legendary actions can bring
they need allura or gilmore, someone else who can counterspell

White balance is fucked up on both Alpha and Twitch in two different ways. Gonna be listening and not watching today.

GODDAM IT. not more vax and keylith bullshit.

>Starting off the night with Vax/Keyleth

Please stop.

where is the hands on the face
vax is fucking this all up

>>54685532

I can't think of her ever being Wise as in giving good advice.

as far as "sensing stuff" with Wisdom, she makes the dice checks I guess

>>54685871

Yeah, I had to mute it. It's way too cringe-inducing.

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>Not starting off with a Grog and Percy scene, since this episode is probably gonna be focused on them
>Not having someone else than Keyleth or Vax start the episode's shenanigans, since they do it literally every fucking time
>Not letting Sam ride on the coattails of his brilliant last session, where he cemented his place as the best member on the cast

Just fuck my life up, senpai.

do you think the other players hate having to wait every time liam starts a long conversation?

I fucking wish Pike was here.

>Vax and Keyleth open their mouths

ishygddt

>>54685937
looks like they use the time to look through notes and shit.

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this is the only place I can argue against shit they do online.

everywhere else is a hugbox

I still fucking love the show tho

>>54685937
Travis always goes from looking annoyed, to talking with/glancing at Laura, then puts on a blank face. Happens every time.

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Travis staring intently at Marisha.

critical is shit

>>54685968
>this is the only place I can argue against shit they do online.
>everywhere else is a hugbox
>I still fucking love the show tho

Exact same here, man. I love the show but I want to be able to shit on out without a bunch of fanboys jumping at me.

Why does Keyleth assume she'll survive her whole 1000+ year lifespan? Am I missing something? She died from a cliff for fucks sake, they're no guarantee she'll make it to old age.

I'm starting to think Matt and Liam do this Vax/Keyleth talks for actual therapy, so the former doesn't has to do this at home

>>54685937
Sam sometimes makes funny faces and judgements on what they say with his expressions towards Travis, usually funny even wordless

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>>54685993
I mean, if she survives this Vecna fight there's a good chance she'll live that long. Like, a 20th level Druid is basically immortal at a certain point.

>>54686002
Did you not see that one game he ran a few months back?

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Laura looks fucking good tonight.

>>54685993
resurrection is ensured with all the other druids she'll train over the years, I guess

also could be a dragon forever right? true form?

>>54686045
not the other guy but I heard the beach scene was fucked up but I didn't actually see the one-shot.

>>54686002
the anxiety of Marisha's life can have an outlet I guess

and Liam can be emo without annoying people at parties

>>54686066
The first one shot he ran was about a group of thieves, all of them wanting to backstab each other in some way, that ended in a rocks fall and an edgy villian monologue. The second one was a Cthulu-esque dream world with recursion and horror elements. Dude is entirely edgelord.

>marishas voice is shot
thank fuck

>>54686045
Do you mean Liam's two-shot? When did Marisha talk about her issues?

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kek that was pretty funny

Damn, I really enjoyed that.

>>54686097
if he had to run a longer than 1 shot it could go places/ also the Lovecrafty oneshot left itself open for "many worlds" dimensions etc

are they going to fight vecna this episode or nah?

>>54686127
they're going to the ocean but vecna said he'd follow them there

>>54686127
no, i'd give it two more episodes

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>>54686112
I gotta admit that fake tribal chant music was great

>>54686121
I didn't say they were terrible, they were both fine for the most part. Edgy isn't synonymous with bad, but they WERE edgy.

>>54686110
I meant Liam's issues. I misread you post. I may also be remembering wrong but Liam also mentioned how he's going through his own issues and this game and his friends helped him get through it.

Marisha might just have "anxiety."

>>54686158
yeah they were edgy. lovecraft is always edgy tho unless it's some Munchkins shit

I just meant he may be capable of a long campaign if given the chance instead of meat grinding/rocks falling

>>54686170
I assume thats why she drinks like a horse.

>>54686191
If he were a player of mine, i think that WHAT he wanted to run would be really important in whether or not i'd want it to happen. A cthulu, horror, or intrigue campaign, or even a "war is terrible" campaign, i think he could do pretty well. I don't think standard or heroic fantasy would mesh, and a light hearted campaign would be beyond my expectations of what he could handle/

Travis coming in again making sure they get the Buffs from the away player

if he ever plays Wizard things will get fucking AMAZING

>>54686196
>Drinks like a horse
>Smokes weed
>Clear issues with authority
She must be a tigress in the sack for Matt to put up with her.

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>>54686230
Grog: Flip for it.
Percy: We do.

Say what you want about Taelsin, but he's got some fucking great banter.

>>54686262
that was in response to scanlan saying "kiss already"

>>54686260
she has hyperhidrosis so she's always wet

>Gust Cantrip

>>54686601
Fill out your bingo board

>>54686608
get out of my head

I like the grizzled voice pirates

>people unironically watch this show

>it's another Keyleth doesn't prepare Freedom of Movement for an underwater encounter episode

>>54686712
>Implying I'm not doing it ironically

I fucking hate Critical Roll viewers. They are generally the worst kind of roleplayers, expect the DM to be a master voice actor, and for his improv to compete with a scripted webshow. They also try to turn everything into comedy because they think that that is what D&D is about. Being shallow normo-niggers, they cannot comprehend the idea of someone finding enjoyment in a hobby beyond pure light-hearted fun, and disparage those who do so. Their minds are crushed into a narrow blinder by Matt Mercer. I once went to a friend's house to watch an episode. He is part of my RPG group but I was over there for a different gathering and people hadn't arrived yet. He was taking care of his wife's son and so we were sitting and watching Critical Roll on his TV. It was without a doubt the most mind-numbingly boring shit I've imagined. Not only do the 6 different millennial cunts constantly talk over each other trying to get in their latest funny comment, but the entire set-up is retarded, Mercer's storytelling is bland at best, and his world is entirely boring. Generic fantasy world number 10,203,321 can be fun and interesting, without even that much effort, but Mercer fails even at that. Probably because everything they do has been processed by a team of six-figure marketing specialists who are trying to squeeze as much money from this sad pathetic phenomenon as they can. After a half-hour some other guests arrived and we finally shut it off. We had also watched some YouTube video of RoosterTeeth (some equally autistic wastes for flesh, for those who don't know) where they play some video game where you are a baby on an apartment balcony trying to shit on people on the street below. Scary thing is, when we switched to Critical Roll I didn't notice much of a difference in quality. The level of autistic, mic-frothing laughter was still the same, for one thing.

what do you guys eat/drink when watching CR?

i always get soda, bag of chips, and some sweets

>54686971
No (You) for you, everyone ignore the copy paste please

>>54686971
>Wifes son
You keep posting this pasta and it gets me every time.

>>54686971
Spamming this copypasta in every tangential related thread has made it shit. Come up with something new faggot.

>>54686974
I'm currently eating a box of shortbread cookies. I love shortbread cookies.

God, Travis suggested something really smart, but no one wanted to do it. Smartest player at the table ignored again.

>>54686974

Eating leftover meatloaf and mash potatoes.

Man, this shit is fucking boring right now.

lol travis looks pissed, per usual

really, it's the point where it's his fault, if you have a plan just fucking say it and keep saying it

I'm a bit behind, why does marisha have to over exaggerate everything she does? The keeps trying to get the party to get with her idea. And damn she needs to memorise spells.

Also purple wurm scanlin sounded bad ass

>>54687080
Because unlike an action packed section, or a heavy feels episode, they're actually playing the game and planning shit out.

>>54687100
Well, that's what happens when you play a low Int character. He pitched his idea, literally no one listened to him.

i always end up looking up porn in another tab and masturbating until important stuff like fights start happening

My sides, they're getting gassed.

>>54686971
Hey welcome back buddy

>Everyone surprised Travis has a good idea

>Grog has the best idea ever

>>54687379
I really wanted him to say mayonnaise

>Travis uses alchemy jug to breathe in

Once again, Travis is smarter than the rest of his peers, he needs to be a spell-caster

>>54687379
The players aren't surprised, it's the character's surprise at Grog coming up with a solution.

the battle against vecna is probably gonna be at gencon
GODDAMN IT FUCK

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>>54685421
>>54685468
>>54685526
>>54685532

>>54687501
Of course it is. How could you not have figured that out already? It's a special anniversary for Gencon, and they couldn't pick a more climatic session for the live show than the Vecna fight.

>>54687501
I sincerely hope someone does a one shot instead; maybe even the battle royale as long as the conclusion doesn't have Tumblrinas screeching as I try to watch

>>54687521
someone is going to lose their shit when the fans start yelling what to do in a high stress battle against vecna

>>54687531
Matt already confirmed it's going to be a canon episode, and the team is deciding to move at a molasses pace all of a sudden

>>54687539
>all of a sudden
Good one anon.

>>54687539
Is it a molasses-type of slow that will push the conclusion after Gen-Con? I certainly hope so

>>54687505
kek

What creature is this?

>>54687664
Bulette (elemental buff)

>no one noticed the dark as fuck Percy joke

Grog: "Can I quietly go into a rage?"
Percy: "You're not my parents"

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>>54687664
This, but lava.

>>54687664
>>54687664
It's just a custom Bulette. Expect it to do a small amount of fire damage, and have tons of extra hp. Maybe a retaliation fire damage.

>>54685421
I don't watch much Critical Role but didn't she jump off a cliff and Wild Shape into a goldfish a few episodes ago, then die horribly and get resurrected like it was nothing? That irritates me. I don't mind people playing 'flawed characters' or ones who don't see themselves as heroic. That's 80% of the PCs I see at my table. What annoys me is when people start treating the game world like it's no longer dangerous or as if stupid, suicidal actions don't have consequences. I feel bad for Matt Mercer; he knows that he can't kill off the PCs permanently and they don't even seem to pretend like they're in mortal danger anymore.

I'm honestly more into Gamma Crawl X as my RPG play podcast of choice. The cast is smaller, there's genuine charisma with nearly no cringe, and the PCs really are in mortal danger. The system is Gamma World 7E so character creation is very quick (and 100% random) and it's been stated that if a PC dies that player will just roll up a new one and join the party. The system is amazing by the way and lets you generate crazy weird characters, for example one of the PCs is an Octopoid Wheeled character and is basically playing C'thuhlu stuck inside a bumper car from a county fair. He rolled an 18 Charisma so he's also the party face. It's hilarious.

Can they ever make the battle map window bigger? Like make the cast a single room on the top and the map/Matt split the bottom? I'm not an ant

>>54687722
>then die horribly and get resurrected like it was nothing
She got revivified, because Vex had a coin charged with Revivify by Taryon

>>54687722
https://youtu.be/lfbHKyk3p2Q
Yup; made it even stranger since it was not even an episode out of a mini-Pike story.

>>54687722
>the PCs really are in mortal danger
Have any of the PCs died?

> one of the PCs is an Octopoid Wheeled character and is basically playing C'thuhlu stuck inside a bumper car from a county fair
Sounds "DAE LE RANDUMB" levels of stupid

>>54687741
She got revivified because matt wasn't willing to punish stupidity. She'd be goo, and you can't revivify goo. Hell, revivify wouldn't even have given back any teeth she got knocked out by the fall.

this is the most silly choice of creature to fight at this level.

>>54687820
>we need to stall for time so the Vecna fight lines up with GenCon
>let's throw some shitty mutant Bulettes at them for half an hour

>>54687841

This seriously pisses me off. I don't wanna watch them fight fucking mutant bulettes. Goddamn.

counting is hard

>special effect on a nat 18
God damn it Matt I thought you'd've gotten the Pathfinder out of your system by now

I want to see marisha use chain lightning again and hit grog. I know she'll do it.

>>54687938
matt could've gone with anything down in the tunnels, a vecna ambush, any sort of elemental down there, anything...

instead we get shitty Bulettes that don't stand a chance against this party - and there's only three of them. they are literally just punching bags for party for no reason.

>>54687988

I don't know how the players aren't bored to tears of this trash fight.

>>54688008
Bulettes are fun to fight faggots

>>54687970
I know there is precedent for failing by X or more, Y happens, i don't recall that specific mechanic from the MM. Beating AC by X or more would have at least fallen into similar design space.

Also, i just missed it. Did Vex somehow make the Bulette vomit by shooting it? What? I know you can break out from inside of most swallows, but not outside.

>>54688008
and they're blowing literally everything on this
i hope vecna comes by and fucks their shit up

>>54688017
They are doing it because they know its not going to happen. Which is a shame, it would be hilarious.

>>54688034
Or, taking revenge for his tower:

>Vecna god-teleports to them
>cast earthquake since they're embedded in unstable volcanic rock

>>54688084
>rocks fall, everybody dies
Ha. If only.

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>>54687505

*****

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>>54687741
>>54687760
Thanks for the info and the link.

>>54687795
>Have any of the PCs died?
Not yet. They're 3 sessions in (about 4 hours 30 minutes of play time) and one of the PCs has already been knocked to 0 HP. Mathematically any time that happens it's about a 10% chance of death (you'd need to roll a 9- on 1d20, no modifiers, 3 times in a row). Gamma World 7E is intentionally lethal by design so it's really just a matter of time.

>Sounds "DAE LE RANDUMB" levels of stupid
Gamma World is the apocalypse by way of Weirdmageddon. In the setting, when the Large Hadron Collider was turned on it caused hundreds of alternate Earths to occupy the same space-time for a few seconds, which merged all of these alternate realities into one our reality. Most of the world was blasted by nukes, or was 'overlayed' with realities where nuclear war had already happened, leaving the planet a jigsaw puzzle of mutants, psychics, weird science, and even alien tech. Real 'humans' are incredibly rare, pretty much everyone is some kind of mutant or robot or psychic, and the PCs are special Alpha Mutants who spontaneously gain new, strange powers drawn from other versions of themselves in other realities.

PCs are generated by rolling twice on a table to determine your Primary and Secondary Origins. They're like mini Classes that give you a small number of passive abilities and powers that you pick up as you level up. You don't choose your Origins, you roll randomly, and making sense of two weird Origins can be half the fun. For example, in my own campaign I had a player roll Rat Swarm and Felinoid, so he played a swarm of kittens that shared a hive mind and ate people alive. Another person was an Android Yeti, and basically ended up being like Gorilla Grod with a mechanical arm.

If none of that interests you, feel free to skip Gamma Crawl X. I quite enjoy it.

>>54687689
i ktf Percy

>>54688235
ktf?

>>54688251
Know that feel, I think.

>>54685931
What did he do last week? I missed a few episodes and I'm questioning whether I want to keep watching

>>54688277
True Polymorphed into a Planar and proceeded to pleasure himself.

>>54688302
Planetar*

> Matt reluctantly gives Vax the Fatetouched feat upon being pressured about it, so now he has 4 Lucks per long rest

Sure, give the OP character even more OP stuff, you're gonna need it vs. the lich god Vecna.

>>54688329
liam "4 luck" o'brien

Oh goody,
>if anyone has non-magical boots
>Oh, just marisha?
>well see, you have uhhh, special avatar boots and uhhh anyone elses would melt

>>54688347
REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>54688329
Sam asks
>So what do i get?
>lol penis

Sam calls Matt on his bullshit, and they just keep on rollin on.

>>54688347
She can fire elemental shape change, and doesn't she have a "I can light my hands/feet up to attack with" ability anyway?

>>54688369
>I can light my hands/feet up to attack with
Just her hands

>>54688369
What the hell does that have to do with Matt having an environmental hazard, then waving it off because only Keyleth would be impacted? Yes, she can ignite her hands for fire damage. Yes, she can shape shift. No, that doesn't make her, or her gear/clothes, immune to fire.

>>54688367
He's probably waiting to spring the I get this form permanently now function of True Polymorph once the hour runs out.

>>54688347
Wait wait wait a DM is giving his fiance special treatment even when she is the worst player and still most powerful?

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>>54688329
Vax grows stronger every session.
>Haste Boots
Two Sneak Attacks per Round
Mobility of an Ancient Red Dragon
NON CONCENTRATION OR ACTION
>Whisper
Teleporting Dagger
Extra Damage
>Revenant
Can't die
>Fatetouched
Luckier than a halfling.
>Luck
Pshh.. whats disadvantage DM?

>>54688384
that would be bad though, he'd lose all his other spells until someone dispels it on him

>>54685869
At least it was over quickly for once.

>>54688395
I agree that Vax is stacked, but remember the Vecna fight.

>>54685968
Holy christ the reddit is the worst.

They almost banned me because I was so fucking tired of Marisha and her shit.

>>54687034
That's what he gets for playing a tard with 7 INT.

>>54688395
How does he get two sneak attacks a round?

>>54688415
He has more options due to luck to dodge a disintegration ray and has one of the highest dex saves in the group.

>>54687101
>I'm a bit behind, why does marisha have to over exaggerate everything she does? The keeps trying to get the party to get with her idea. And damn she needs to memorise spells.
Because if she weren't sucking Matt off every few nights she'd be kicked by now.

She's an awful player and a worse actor. All the rest of them are pro voice actors; almost everything she's done comes from this show.

She's literally rode her boyfriend's dick into a job.

>>54688415
The one where Matt went out of his way to kill Vax for plot reasons? One of the few times he's actually played an enemy to his potential and will most likely never again

>>54688448
Haste special attack on his turn for one sneak attack, then use your action to ready an attack, use your reaction to get a second sneak attack on another creature's turn

>>54687393
For some stupid reason he hates spells and spellcasting, I don't get it.

Dude should be a bladelock if spells scare him that much. Be a dwarf for medium armor prof, or variant human with the moderately armored feat.

Actually do the latter, because a bladelock with a shield could be pretty scary.

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>>54688448
He could use his Hasted action & Bonus action to attack and ready his regular action to attack on someone else's turn.

>>54687689
Percy's wisecracks almost always go unnoticed.

>>54688463
>>54688472
Got it so only if he played better. Kinda a moot point with this group but there ya go

>>54688461
Matt really does pull his punches, doesn't he?

>>54688450
>dodging
>disintegration
>while paralyzed

Did you not see the fight?

>>54688450
He never dodged a Disintegrate during the Vecna fight, Scanlan couterspelled the first one

>>54688524
>>54688537
I meant in general. He has a higher chance of avoiding one. If he is paralyzed or stunned of course he will get hit by one.

>>54688516
He rarely pulls any punches but I will say he should have more encounters for a party of this size as they are way too much for their traditional 2-3 fights a day or 1 big fight.

Reminder that Vax's boots, which he's had for the entirety of the aired campaign, are easily Legendary tier, and with a few bonuses could easily be an artifact.

>>54688583
>He rarely pulls any punches
kek
He rarely *doesn't* pull any punches

>They dragged their feet so much they probably won't fight Vecna now while at Gencon

Thank fucking god.

What a boring fucking episode. He's definitely pushing the Vecna fight to GenCon.

>>54688590
Good old Pathfinder port.

>>54688608
>>54688611

I swear to god if the Vecna fight is at Gencon...fuck those tards in the audience. Worst possible way to end a series.

that was pretty fucking boring, but i guess when you go from the best guest and a semi tense skill challenge to walking in a fucking cave for 3 hours, what do you expect

>>54688602
The bomb trap with Ripley, Raishan's fight was pretty good, the re-fight with Delilah and the Cult of Vecna was good.

Again though if he wore them down a little more the list would be bigger.

>>54688460
She also does several voices in Fire Emblem (only in games where Mercer also does voice work) and god DAMN her characters are annoying

>>54688651
yeah i think that's the real problem with why nothing is ever super dangerous: they have one fight per long rest most of the time
isn't the norm for 5e supposed to be like 6 encounters a day?

>>54688663
>god DAMN her characters are annoying
Not much of a surprise there.

>only in games where Mercer also does voice work

Kek, that only proves my point. She only gets work because he does.

Side note, anyone else think the campaign guide kinda sucked? It was a bunch of fluff very few people care about plus a few mediocre subclasses.

Glad that we have the rem.uz page and I didn't waste cash on that crap.

>>54685421
Is she autistic?

>>54688677
Yeah, it is. I'm only recently breaking myself of that habit after watching this show.

The storytelling is pretty decent and the voice acting is godly, but the encounter building sucks dick.

>>54687817

How do you keep track of teeth getting knocked out in DnD 5e?

>>54688651
>Raishan's fight was pretty good
Raishan could have easily TPK'd them if she'd actually tried

>>54688651
>Raishan
No.
He used all of her abilities defensively, and chose to be a meat bag. Didn't use hide+move while invisible, no summons or minions, didn't attempt to split the party. Just sat there and let herself get smacked around. Grog should never have been able to attack ANY of the dragons.

>>54688703
By being a DM willing to apply consequences. Get your ass beat in a bar fight? Might break some bones or lose some teeth. Fall 1000 feet and splat on the ground? You turn into an indiscernible human mush.

>>54688687
Probably.

>go on the shitteral roll subreddit
>say tonights episode was boring
>get bombarded with downvotes

I expected as much. The echo chamber is strong.

>>54688741
It really is, holy crap.

They're all sucking Matt's dick in there, and I say that as someone who LIKES the damn show.

I liked this episode because it actually felt like a home game rather than a scripted show, but it really dragged in parts.

>>54688760

Yeah, it's pretty disgusting how much they venerate the cast. Don't get me wrong, I think Matt's a pretty good DM. He's inspired me (as has the show and most of its players) but that doesn't mean I feel as if he can do no wrong.

Ass-kissers really are pathetic.

>>54688776
only sam and travis deserve to have their asses kissed

>>54688801
And in a little less degree, Talesin.

>>54688816
And Laura doesn't really deserve it but i'd do that for my own pleasure, not hers.

>>54688837
I've really come to appreciate Laura for being able to just have fun doing shit, Liam and Marisha make shit dramatic and boring all the time

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>>54688741
>go to reddit
>not expecting an echo chamber

You're a Critical Role fan, so I know you're not smart, but even so...

>>54688816
Talespin has really stupid hair and I can't take him seriously unless he has more normal hair.

>>54685421
it's everyone else BUT me with the problem -__-

>>54688850
fuck off you piece of shit the show is good but the people as people suck ass>>54688851
lolwut

>>54688682
Link so I can see it for myself?

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better episode than last week but that's not sayin much

>>54688890
She voices Effie, although i have no idea how badly since i don't play with sound

>>54688891
?
This episode was slow and boring. Last week's was actually exciting and had less talking from Marisha, making it significantly better

>>54688682
my thoughts exactly. she's nothin but a pathetic little tagalong and ya the guide most def did suck. can't believe they're charging that much for the pos and the RETARDED fans are eating it all up. actually i take that back OF COURSE the crittards are all over it. fuckin losers -__-

>>54688837
Laura just has fun.

>>54688901
>>54688890
No, for the campaign guide?

>>54688741
fuck their gay ass little subreddit and every loser that uses it. the circle jerk orgy that constantly goes on there is beyond pathetic.

>>54688902
the fuck it did wtf were you watching? last week's episode was slow and boring and annoying. and no marisha talked and prattled on way more last week than she did this week.

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>>54688682
The subclasses are meh (I was really disappointed with the Runechild) I kind of like some of the Vestiges and it gives more detail as to how to upgrade them and that's good.

>>54688837
if only she had bigger tits but i'd still rail the fuck outta her

>>54688850
> /tg/ is just a reverse echo chamber of people bitching

Fantastic. I love discussing crit roll

>>54688626
I'm guessing that even Matt won't want the final fight to occur at Gencon.

I think the Gencon episode will be them doing one final fight to gain access to the forge proper, then a day or two of the group working together to help Percy and Grog forge the divine trammels, and end with the, "final night before the battle" drama moment.

>>54688911
https://dnd.rem.uz/5e%20D%26D%20Books/Third%20party/Critical%20Role/Tal%27Dorei%20Campaign%20Setting%20v1.1.pdf

Knock yourself out.

>>54688682
>making baseless claims without any form of evidence

Isn't /tg/ the smart board?

I dunno, wasn't one of the main complaints about Sword Coast's book is it didn't give enough fluff? I think lots of people wanna know about all the places in Matt's world.

>>54688948
You do remember that last week's episode was Scanlan's challenge with Ioun, right? Followed by a surprise visit from illusory Vecna? Where Keyleth talked for maybe 5-10 minutes through the whole show?

Marisha talked more at the very beginning of this episode than she did in last week's. How the fuck was the last episode slow and boring when half of it was Scanlan's amazing time challenge? Are you retarded?

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>>54688682
>>54688963
Here are the Subclasses

>>54689016

That guy's a troll, don't feed him.

>>54689016
He's probably talking about the part where she cast plane shift and threw a ten-minute weepy shitfit for no real reason.

Or was that 2 episodes ago? I dunno, it's late.

>>54689058
I think the spotlight hogging attempt was 2 sessions ago, i think she mostly laid off on the previous one.

>>54689058
That was two episodes ago

>>54689088
yeah that was two episodes when they first met sprigg
don't forget her almost stealing the spotlight with pelor too
fuck this basic bitch, i cant believe i used to think she was attractive

>>54689112
>i cant believe i used to think she was attractive
Thought I was the only one who thought this!

It's weird how getting a better sense of the person's personality makes them completely unlikeable.

>>54689058
>make a new pal
>new pal happens to be not only your spell components but is also a thing your character fears the most
>think you're gonna kill your new pal to just get to a new plane

If you fags are gonna bitch about something, bitch about how Travis isn't fighting hard enough to go to Ysgard to meet Kord, considering they have fists blessed by him so not only can he get fucking cured of his -2 to all saves but also get the blessing of Kord.

>>54689131
>makes a new pal
She barely interacted with him, then burned down everything he owned. Plane Shift doesn't consume components, so the only reason she was afraid was her own incompetence. Not to mention, Matt and Darin had obviously intended him to connect with Scanlan, even literally saying "I am you" at one point, but she shoved her way in for her tantrum.

>>54689165
This

>>54689165
Have you ever played with an emotional person or character? They tend to get involved in everything. I really don't see what people complain so much. I've genuinely played with worse people. As much as people complain that keyleth doesn't "achieve her best results" when like every player doesn't go for their best results. The idea that they shouldn't go to anymore gods now that Vecna has risen is stupid, now more than ever you need those buffs, and you only need to see Melora for Keyleth, Kord for Grog and let percy pick a fucking god, hell, Bahamut could work with his whole "justice for the family" thing. I agree it was silly to think he'd die (he was a guest and meta wise it was kinda dumb for him to die by plane shifting) but whatever, it's their fantasy game.

>>54689215
>see Melora for Keyleth
That's retarded, Keyleth literally hates the gods and has done from the very beginning.

>Kord for Grog
Good idea. He wants to do it, has tried to take the initiative to get that ball rolling and even knows what plane the need to go to.

>let percy pick a fucking god
That's retarded, he's explicitly stated he's done with gods.

>>54689215
>They tend to get involved in everything
That's called being a spotlight hog. It's a symptom of being That Guy. Sam noticeably was going to let Percy take this one, until it was thrust upon him, Marisha tried to hog the Pelor boon and then claimed the next guest as her emotional baggage.

>>54689253
>it's retarded to gain a benefit from things that are actively vested in helping you and you have literally met

It's retarded that they aren't even considering it.

>>54689265
>Pelor asks twice for someone to step up
>Percy and Vex are good qualifiers but really anyone can take his blessing since it's so blanket
>Marisha says "fuck it" if nobodies gonna step up I'll just ask
>Pelor double checks cause she's clearly half hearted, but the push is enough to force Vex at least to offer

This is a bad thing? Laura and Talesin were the stupid ones with Pelor. If Marisha was a spotlight hog she'd literally step into every situation whether she could or not. Seriously you need help. At least Keyleth doesn't have that much longer of a run.

>>54689293
>If Marisha was a spotlight hog she'd literally step into every situation whether she could or not
She literally does.

>>54689293
>Marisha says "fuck it" if nobodies gonna step up I'll just ask
You mean how she was trying to rationalize her getting the boon, since Pike got one, as soon as she realized what was going on?
>Oh i talk to the Sun Tree, that's Pelor!

>>54689306
Yes I look forward to how she'll try to help with the forging of the Dremmels.

Of which they're missing 1 of the seeds of a god to make a fourth

Which they need

Just a reminder, cause Vecna's a true god now, and the last true god needed four.

>>54689319
No, she said on Talks Machina that she literally stepped up cause he asked twice and nobody said anything. Percy and Vex waited forever. Percy's got some weird thing against gods (only seemingly cause he's been cucked twice and cucked himself once about them)

>>54689293
>If Marisha was a spotlight hog she'd literally step into every situation whether she could or not
Have we been watching the same show?

>>54689343
i'm pretty sure Ioun specifically said he's not fully realized yet, even if he technically is a god, so I'd assume 3 is fine
I do wish they went to Kord though, Grog could use a boon and the fix on his curse

>>54689345
I mean, hasn't there been plenty of character moments she wasn't involved in?

>>54689365
Grog's gonna get save or die'd in the Vecna fight and it'll be by two I swear.

>>54689343
>No, she said on Talks Machina that she literally stepped up cause he asked twice and nobody said anything.
And Matt said that he'd have TPKd if anyone else last hit Kevdak, and that they were super sorry for Taryon being the wrong kind of gay. Don't trust retroactive rationalization. I enjoy the show, but some of the shit is incredibly transparent.

>>54689365
The curse he doesn't know he has, Travis being the best RPer among them even still, doesn't influence doing it.

>>54689376
I'm sure Kord would recognize it though, and if he was giving him a boon, surely he'd remove that as well

>>54689391
Again, Travis being a bro and playing correctly, means that the curse has 0 impact on how far he pushes wanting to go.

Quest threads died for this.

>>54689376
>they were super sorry for Taryon being the wrong kind of gay
They didn't apologize, they just said that they had gotten complaints for how he was portrayed. They also said that no matter how they had portrayed him people would have complained, and they basically said those people could fuck off and let Taryon be his own character.

>>54689407
and then matt mercer cried about his gay uncle

>>54689403
Oh no, what a loss.

>>54689403
Not fair, is it?

>>54689416
Who fucking cares?

>>54689420
>talking about a popular D&D game
>playing a cyoa in threads
One of these it /tg/, the other isn't.

>>54689429
Post action rationalization. In this instance, for something that wasn't wrong to begin with.

>>54689376
I mean Grog already had a piss poor chances at convincing the Herd to put down their cocks so they didn't all die but he had the best legal chances at it. Anyone else killing kevdak would've been even shittier chances. Also Matt totally said that "listen it's our game and that's how Sam wants to play Taryon, it might be unconformable to you but that's life" so I don't know what you're on about. Also, Grog does know because Pike said it right to his face what the curse was.

>>54689416
Yeah, cause his gay uncle had a bad lot in life and was important to him, that doesn't mean he's gonna force Sam to change his character, big whoop?

>>54689431
Listen man, playing RPGs on /tg/ is more /tg/ than these thinly veiled internet celebrity threads.

>>54689444
What the fuck are you talking about

>>54689450
Since when is a CYOA game an RPG?

Do my Alternanamorph books belong here too?

>>54689450
>RPGs
>CYOA
pick one

also tripfag fuck off

>>54689467
>>54689477
Hey, you summerfags might not remember the games that had character sheets and were run using game systems, but that doesn't mean the rest of us have forgotten.

>>54689403
Just one, really.

>>54689494
More like i avoided garbage threads that occupied 1/3 of the board, meaning any non-mtg/d&d/w40k thread was likely to disappear in the morass.

>>54689524
I miss nation builders too, but you no-fun dickholes had to ruin those as well.

>>54688890

check the 5e thread >>54688270
its in the trove listed in the op

>>54689554
And i like futa horse cocks, i keep in on /d/, where it belongs or pfg.

>>54689587
False equivalency.

Futa horsecock is not as relevant as using /tg/ to play a traditional game.

>>54689649
Clearly the mods disagreed.

>>54689686
I wonder why. I'm sure it had nothing to do with them being incessantly pressured by turbo-autists who hate original content.

Fuck off with your qst/antiqst bullshit. You do this shit in every thread that you don't like and it's fucking retarded. Actually no, I take that back, all of the Special Olympics combined are less retarded than this shoehorned argument/bait.

>>54689714
>Board games, paper games, war games, card games, etc. go here!

Are CYOA a board game? A paper game? A war game? A card game? Hell, they aren't even a game at all!

>>54689743
Paper and war on the whole.

>>54688470
Because spells are for skinny nerds, and Travis ain't skinny. Next campaign I'm expecting him to be a fighter or a paladin, a grizzled veteran or something that lets him actually play to his smarts while still being physical

>>54690088
Pretty sure he's gonna play Mercer's Bloodhunter, though I do hope he at least takes a 12 or so in intelligence, wisdom too.

>>54690088
Paladin or an Eldritch Knight would be as good as things get. Brains AND Brawn.
Or a fucking blade dancer. Or a war wizard. But that's probably too much to ask of the man.

>>54689028
>Tremere Cleric
That's pretty neat

Fuck,looks like I didn't miss much. See you next week Lads.

Cast Rankings

Travis > Sam > Ashley/Talesin > Laura >>> Liam >>>>>>> Marisha

>>54690920
Travis/Sam > Talesin > Laura > Ashley >>>>>> Liam >>>> Marisha

>>54688302
>>54688309

Technically, the mistyping is not incorrect.

There's a lot of pasta's circling around about how Critical Role ruined DnD via casualisation of the playerbase, but I think the real issue going forward is the impact it will have on DM styles. And I'm not necessarily talking about the overloading of player-character relevancy or Nat 20 memes, although those may also become factors. No, I'm focusing on NPC's.
Matt Mercer being the voice actor he is can seed his world with up to a hundred distinct NPC's at a time, some of which have ended up with really high status in the story and cherished personalities. I'm referring especially to Gilmore and Kima, the former a vendor and the latter a rescue mission NPC. But the process of these characters rising in important can and will be missinterpreted by lesser minds as a deliberately designed artifact. Already back in 2015 I was encountering DM's who were honestly convinced that if you make an a-priori declared homosexual superwizard NPC that tries to make "bants" the players HAD to automatically like them.
It's ridiculous of course, and GMPC's aren't new by any means. But due to people not understanding that it requires HUNDREDS of different NPC's out of which the players might spontaneously feel attached to just one, and instead thinking that there's a recipe for likeable NPCs / it is critical to have likeable NPC's, the result will make GMPC's a staple.
Always remind people introduced to DnD and tabletop from Critical Role that the game is ultimately for players, and GMPC's are something that only happens very rarely and only under the players express desire/interest in the character. Normal NPC's should NEVER be designed with the goal in mind that the party will treat them as one of their own, and for hell's sake don't let them be gay just to score affirmative action points.

Tl.Dr. Critical Role condones GMPC's but has internal reasons to do so, always discourage your DM's from trying to do a Matt Mercer NPC style when they can't or the party doesn't want them to.

>>54685421
This is the biggest non-response I have ever seen. Holy shit.

Okay, I know I'm late to the party here, but what is going on with Keyleth trying to find a way to cheat Vax out of his deal with the Raven Queen?

Vax has already cheated death by accepting the Raven Queen's offer and becoming a Revenant. He's accepted that he's quite literally already dead. And that he's been given just enough time to defeat this threat to both the gods and mortals before he finally dies.

But Keyleth now wants to try to get him to cheat undeath, and cheat a god who is trying to help them in their quest.

Something tells me that Marisha really wants to pull a Raishan on the Raven Queen and go after her next once they defeat Vecna.

All because her in-game boyfriend will go from being undead to fully dead once Vecna is gone.

She is utterly oblivious to the fact that Vax has already accepted his fate.

This is why people have problems with Keyleth.

>>54695048
If it was anyone else playing Keyleth, I'd say it's her in denial. As it's Marisha, she probably thinks this is a thing she can try and stop. Keyleth would be a better character if her Wisdom was shit, rather than supposedly the highest in the party. It'd explain her immaturity much better and make Marisha's issues less frustrating.

The truth is that, unlike Travis, Sam, and sometimes Laura, Marisha hasn't managed to adapt to what is technically her first game. This is a problem since Keyleth can be considered a 'main character' so we're constantly stuck with her, and Marisha tends to be the louder voice in the group so we hear her bad ideas and she often makes the negotiations for them. See how she went for the Pelor boon, while Laura had to be all but told by Matt that this is her thing.

Hopefully, in the next game, she rolls a character that's more on the sidelines, has a simpler skill-set/back-story, and plays more to her...'strengths' which is acting quick like a Fighter or Barbarian of some kind. It's the same with Liam whose character's back-story and class lets him act out his edgier side which is also his shit side. Maybe if he has a different character, he'll be better. Talesin sometimes skirts on the edgy side, but he's also consistently funny when he needs to be, and I get the feeling that his fuck-ups are more roleplaying his character's flaws so I can forgive that.

I remember when people had problems with Sam as Scanlan because they thought the constant shitting on places was him being LOL RANDUM, but then we had Taryon and realised that it was more Scanlan than Sam. In an ideal next-game, Travis and Sam can have characters who have more of the spotlight while Liam and Marisha can work on their failings.

Or Marisha just roleplays as Marisha, Liam tries to make his character OP, and both keep trying to meta-game and dominate the party.

>>54695048
It's because she's a hypocrite. There's no complexity there, no underlying meaning. Some people are simply hypocritical, and I choose to believe that the party (not necessarily the players) are either Anakin-tier "love has blinded me" or have given up on the idea that confronting her will change anything.

But you're right. She's intent on multiclassing into necroromancer [sic] at this point.

>>54695048
>>54695635
>>54696081
Not to defend Marisha or Keyleth, but I'm pretty sure in her eyeroll-inducing Q/A that she stated that even though she/her character may desire to bring Vax back, she knows that it's his choice to remain dead, and that she can't do anything about an unwilling soul.

She still sucks tho.

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God, I really hope they don't end up doing the Vecna fight at Gen-Con. I cannot think of anything more awful than having the finale of the series be a live show where idiots in the audience are screaming and shouting memes.

Also, I'm probably the minority in this, but the boss encounters in this show are fucking boring to watch. Every time a "big" battle starts, I almost always tab out and leave the video playing in the background while I do other shit. There's nothing really to watch, and I can't imagine what a drag that would be to watch from an audience seat.

Tldr: I'm okay with them dragging shit out slow as molasses if it means no Vecna fight at Gen-Con.

>>54699085
I hope against hope that Vecna will TPK them, or at the very least perma-kill multiple members beyond Vax's obligatory post-Vecna death.

It wont happen, but I'll continue to dream.

>>54699085
I get the feeling that Matt, Geek & Sundry, and even the people behind GenCon itself are all trying to line things up for the finale to be at GenCon.

It's GenCon 50, and Critical Role, one of the most popular D&D livestreams, is in it's end-game storyline.

I'd be absolutely shocked if somehow the Vecna fight **didn't** happen at GenGon.

>>54685149
Fuck off back to where you belong, plebbit shit

>>54700377
Did that post make you feel better, baby? Let it all out, that's right.

Best end game death toll?

>Survives
Scanlan
Pike
Vex

>Killed
Percy
Keyleth
Grog
Vax (duh)

Also and bets on which NPCs will kick it?

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>>54701026
>Scanlan, pike and Grog die
>the rest live (except for chose one Vax)

>>54701234
>even worse they somehow bullshit Vax out of the deal

truly the darkest timeline.

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>>54701256
this is going to happen

>>54701026

My list is as follows:

> Survives
Percy
Vex
Scanlan
Pike

> Dies
Vax
Keyleth
Grog

Bonus: how they die.

Vax because they kill Vecna, Keyleth because she gets Fingered and chooses to not come back, wanting to be with Vax. Grog dies in a, "if I'm going to get sealed, you're going with me" moment from Vecna once the sealing spell succeeds and gives the lich god a bear hug piledriver into the prison.

>>54701026

>Survives
Grog
Scanlan
Pike
Vex

>Killed
Keyleth
Vax
Percy

>>54701026
This is what I want, not what'll happen

>Survives
Grog
Percy
Pike

>Killed
Keyleth
Vex
Vax
Scanlan
All "important" NPCs, I don't wanna see any homosexual inserts next campaign

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>Pointed ears
>One clawed foot
>Muscled
>Black Schlera
>Partial greening
Is being strange mutants average for all half-orcs?

>>54703628
Where is this from?

>>54703628
Is that from the campaign guide?

>>54685149
What's a better show than critical role for DnD?
I'm on 89 and it's feeling so...repetitive. Bless Sam for rerolling or I wouldnt have stayed this long.

>big enemy
>person dies
>waah we're sad :(
>person comes back
>yay!

Sam is the only person who had any...response to death other than "dying sucks :( "

>>54701256
Goddamnit, Mercer'll let them do it, too.

For all their complaining (LAURA), he really does take it easy on them.

They should have TPK'd in the Hells, for example.

>>54705349
Ripley was the last great fight, and so many faggots sperged out at him on Twitter for it. People literally frothed at the mouths slamming their keyboards saying that Ripley, an intelligent villain, shouldn't have been allowed to prepare for the battle she knew was coming.

I hope next campaign Mercer takes off the kiddy gloves and fucking murders any Keyleth-tier shenanigans.

>>54704201
>>54704181
It is.

>>54698022
You're forgetting that Vax is established as Keyleths lapdog so all she has to do to make Vax want to return is ask him to want to return.
Love conquers all and all that, you know, just like Romeo and Juliet.

>>54705424
Mercer should stop worrying about what other people say. This is HIS game and not theirs. He can fuck off with the rules if he so desires, he's the GM. The people complaining and whining are probably not in a game themselves, they whine to him because they wish they're in CR and it's their game. Matt stopping the flow to check the rules ad verbum so Twitter wont complain is a mistake.

I think the only way I'd like them to fight for Vax back would be with Burt Reynolds and Percy full on Ace Attorney-ing it.

>>54710321
The best timeline

>>54704294
I heard The Adventure Zone is good, although I haven't had the time to watch it.

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>>54685421
>Some despise the way I play her
I swear to god Marisha I hope somehow you see this one day: it is entirely how you fucking play. You have a Wisdom of 22 but act like it's 0, you're supposedly the leader of your people yet you took a year off to open a bakery and get tattoos.
You don't know what half your spells do, but you're more than willing to argue with Matt over them every week
You try too hard to be this adorkable quirky nerd and it's always cringeworthy, but you can't even be consistent with it as you regularly take it upon yourself to be loud and outspoken when you feel like it, but particularly when it's inconvenient, such as when VM are trying to make a deal with The Clasp to save lives, or when you feel the need to rant about how much you distrust Kima despite her being a paladin while you have a mind flayer in your party.
On a similar note you have a real habit of acting without thinking and then complaining about the results, for example: jumping off a 1000ft cliff despite having to save a gnome from the very same fall in the previous episode because it would be fatal, getting 2 opportunities to save yourself from that fall and wasting them to use a cantrip and turn into something with 1hp, deciding to attack Raishan after the Thordak fight almost leading to a TPK, starting a fire in a forest and being surprised when it spread, the list goes on.
You constantly derail the plot for lectures in morality (funny considering the number of people you've personally harmed with your stupidity). You just can't help yourself when it comes to the spotlight, like when there's a really great guest who's playing a mad gnome but oh look! Keyleth actually understands his insane ramblings perfectly and is very emotionally affected! Percy and Vex are married? Time for Keyleth to be visibly mopey and angry because Vax is gonna die! There's a reason no one fucking responded to you during that, it's because they're tired of your shit and your selfish attitude.

>>54711659
Holy shit, yes.

>>54704294
and they threw it all away because they needed their witty imp back

>>54711659
I feel like Keyleth was mind controled by the mindflayer at that point.

She's still horrible, but I remember matt whispering to her pretty quickly after they found the mindflayer

>>54712506
FUCK they bring him back?! I mean
I expected it but that's so shitty for storytelling.

>>54712548
They bring him back, he gets rightly mad at them for bringing his daughter into it, he asks them questions about his personal life and none of them can answer proving that they never really thought about him as anything more than the funny gnome, he leaves and after 15 episodes or so of viewers crying "we want scanlan" he brings him back, says he was all wrong and that it's all his fault, VM has the fucking cheek to be mad at scanlan but eventually it just goes back to like he never exploded on them and quit after they violated his dying wishes

>>54712636
In fairness it was bullshit Vex clocks Scanlan's disguise almost immediately but doesn't say anything, she talks to him outside a tavern alone, Scanlan is about to cast Modify Memory and leave again, but Matt allows Vex to interrupt the spell instead total bullshit.

>>54712680
It was the right time for Scanlan to leave and I can't help but feel as though Tary was prematurely taken out back and shot because of the reaction to his "coming out" to VM in the Tavern.

>thread dedicated to bitching and gossiping about the actual lives of e-celebrities
You're the worst kind of humans.

>>54700711
You have an entire subreddit where you came from dedicated to this shit.
>B-but it's a hugbox!
I don't really fucking care. How are the personal lives of e-celebs relevant to traditional games?

>>54713472
Quick post theories why Orion left

>>54713576
It's possible that because, like it or not, the game has brought a LOT of new people into our hobby.

>>54713592
Powergaming+crude comments at Marisha+cheating+trying to make his character his own IP+depressive breakdown.

He cried like a little bitch on-stream after they kicked him.

>>54713809
Plus dug addiction. Plus a very poor reaction to his cancer treatments.

>>54713809
I'd bring up screeching at a fan over a shirt, before Travis shut it down, but that probably falls under the breakdown bit.

The only downside to his leaving was that Tiberius had an interesting backstory, compared to Avatar Keyleth and the Little Orphan Elfies. Then again, Orion thought he could summon a fucking army to handle the Briarwoods and ruin Percy's arc completely, so maybe there was some shit Matt saved us from by nuking Draconia.

>>54713908
>screeching at a fan over a shirt, before Travis shut it down
Shit son, is there a video of that? It sounds hilarious.

>>54713908
>he thought he could summon an army
Matt made Daddy draconian shut that idea down, something like "You must prove yourself before you're able to do that shit kiddo"

>>54713970
It was on Twitter. Basically, a fan asked Orion what he thought of a shirt they did with Tiberius on it, Orion screeched and said they were 'de-crittered', the fan said sorry, Travis then said the fan was alright and that the shirt was cool.

Coincidentally, he left later that week. Though it also came after the episode where Orion said Tiberius was at 'half-chub' over Vex making a plan (which Travis was apparently unhappy about), tried to get a Draconian army to invade Whitestone (which Matt shut down), and then spent what must have been an hour shopping for a million mirrors to make a better version of what Talesin tried to have Percy make.

I think he was fudging dice-rolls (instead of saying he got a 1, he said 'I don't hit him') for a while since Marisha had to check them, but the meta-gaming got bad when he tried to hog the spotlight. During the Slayer's Take arc, Vex tried to aim an arrow at a small hole, was close to making it, and then TIberius used telepathy to make it go in, cucking Laura. If Matt let the Draconian Army shit fly, it would have turned Critical Role into Tiberius And Friends.

Again, the character himself had a few interesting turns with his elitist side showing more and showing no regret over murdering an old lady, but Orion just had too much baggage and was being That Guy.

>>54714070
Knew the rest of that, but not the shirt stuff.

What a tool.

>>54714070
>If Matt let the Draconian Army shit fly, it would have turned Critical Role into Tiberius And Friends.

Talesin probably knew it'd never happen, but I would not have been that calm about another player trying to ruin my character's backstory, moment, and the whole adventure like that.

>>54714158
And I'd go as far as to say that the Briarwood story arc was probably the best story arc of the game.

It was where the show went from merely decent, to truly excellent in my opinion.

>>54714158
I'd like to think given the moderate scripting and the character's backstory, Tiberius was obligated to use his political capital and matt was obligated to deny him, I think they all knew the score.

if he didn't try you could ask why someone with Tiberius' connections never volunteered to use them to help a friend.

Man, that cukcs are in an out all attack against Marisha.

>>54714234
It's why I've always put Talesin in the upper echelon of the group.

>>54714269
See, I'd buy that, but it's more when mixing it in with other stuff that Orion did and how he portrayed Tiberius in his web-drama or whatever they're called which is all about Tiberius, Tiberius' family, and how cool Tiberius is.

>>54714334
>It's why I've always put Talesin in the upper echelon of the group.
Shame he's overshadowed by the godliness that is Travis and Sam.

>>54714299
Pretending there's anything Marisha worth defending.

>>54714418
A sign of a god roleplayer is when you can separate good moments between the character and the player.

One of my favourite Grog moments is when Vex tries to apologise for tricking him about the Deck of Many Cards and he thinks she just got a new one.

Talesin even asks "How is he that good?"

One of my favourite Travis moments is when he resists the urge to murder Orion in the shopping episode for making that joke about Laura, and also for stealing his soul and joy away because he took too long shopping.

I hope Travis picks a character that can take more of a lead in the group. The same with Sam. Grog and Scanlan/Taryon were great, but they were always constricted to being secondary-tier characters. I'd like to see Sam play a Paladin or some other Lawful Good type, or Travis play a character that lets him be the strategist more often.

>>54714616
>One of my favourite Travis moments is when he resists the urge to murder Orion in the shopping episode for making that joke about Laura, and also for stealing his soul and joy away because he took too long shopping.
Oh man, I thought the guy was going to bust a vein.

>I hope Travis picks a character that can take more of a lead in the group. The same with Sam. Grog and Scanlan/Taryon were great, but they were always constricted to being secondary-tier characters. I'd like to see Sam play a Paladin or some other Lawful Good type, or Travis play a character that lets him be the strategist more often.

I'm gunning for Travis to play a Bladelock and for Sam to be a Paladin or a Wizard.

It'd be great.

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>>54714616
>Travis as a hexblade warlock

>>54714712
>Oh man, I thought the guy was going to bust a vein.
I wouldn't blame him. Marisha was getting tired on his touchy-feely shit too. At one point, she 'as Keyleth' tells Drunk 'Tiberius' to fuck off and Matt is the only other one not laughing besides those two.

>I'm gunning for Travis to play a Bladelock and for Sam to be a Paladin or a Wizard.

>Sam as a Paladin calling out when the group makes a questionable decision, or looking to his God/ess in times of doubt during dramatic moments.

>Sam as a Paladin being an asshole with the Lawful Good alignment for comedic moments.

I'm gunning for Paladin. He's been great as a morally dubious gnomic Bard, but Taryon's shown that he can play naive well and I want to see him be a goody-two-shoes with no strings attached. But I'd be happy with anything, if he can keep the quality up.

>>54714884
>an asshole with the Lawful Good alignment

Lawful Good Paladin doesn't necessarily have to translate to Buzzkill Fun-Stopper.