Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

First for firsting?

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>>54683443
Discuss what?

Slaanesh sucks.

>t3
>s3

Xth for this campaign was rigged in the Imperium's favor from the beginning.

>>54683443
>>>/d/
>>>/lgbt/

>>54683463
Butthurt about daemonettes being choppier than bloodletters?

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>>54683493
>t3
>s3

Is choppy?

>>54683493
I've had years to get over being butthurt about bloodletters being shitty, I'm not about to start again now.

Hey guys. I was just wondering. How are people here building their Reiver squads. Im really digging the look of the bolt carbines, but the bp and combat knife is sexy looking to. What does everyone else think?

>>54683493
I thought Khorn was better, with two attacks and S5 with power sword on the charge.

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>>54683389
How should I get into W40k?

I was thinking about splitting Dark Imperium with my friend but he doesn't want to paint... at all... Also I really didn't want to play Nurgle since I know he'd throw a fit if he didn't get Ultrafaggots

Thinking about getting the "Start Collecting X" boxes but then again I'd be by myself since he doesn't want to shell $100, and another $100 on paints/brushes/tools

>>54683477
>losing bad
>It's rigged! RIGGED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Top kek

>>54683443
Is fuck it's titties, next question

>>54683443
I'd do her.

>>54683539
>your friend doesn't want to take park in half of the hobby
>and he's going to offload expensive toys I don't actually want on me
No.

The fuck is the new teaser video about? necromunda?

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Is this actually worth 200pts? I've not had much luck with it, but I've only. Used her in 2 games of 8th. Both games it died immediately because it can't jink and doesn't actually fly anymore (after I went through the hassle of getting it up on a flight stand no less). I used to drop my Brute/Contemptor out of it in 7th, but now idk.

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I tried my best, kek. Fuck painting. Playing is fun

>>54683539
Fuck your friend.

Get DI and trade your Death Guard for someone who wants them and doesn't want Primaris. I did that, just started with DI for 8th after being out of the hobby for like 10-11 years.

>>54683539
40k is a big time and financial commitment. Don't pick your faction based on what your faggot friend wants, pick the one you want. That said, start collecting boxes are a solid place to begin. You both should also take a look at some of Duncan's painting tutorials on youtube. He's a great resource for beginners.

>>54683549
Because pitting the largest mega-faction, likely comprising around half of all players, against a much smaller subset and telling them that raw numbers is what wins is a totally fair fight.

>>54683539
What faction(s) are you most interested in?
>>54683588
Then explain how chaos won (though only marginally so) EoT? It's not like faction break down between chaos and imperium has changed that greatly since 3rd

>>54683539
1. Find people who aren't your faggot "friend" to play with (this is easy).
2. Get whatever army you actually want.
3. Build and paint your army.
4. Play game.
5. Tell your faggot friend what awesome funtimes you had without him.

>>54683571
Popular theories are: Necromunda. New plastic Steel Legion guard.

I want to run a Black Legion army where the CSM are the elite forces, and the bulk of the army are daemons. My LGS has a box of bloodletters, the SC Slaanesh pack, and some blue horrors. Nurgle stuff, IIRC, is sold out. Which should I go after?

>>54683571
I like the C:DA theory but that's because I'm dying to get my fucking codex and some new units.

>>54683549
>Losing bad
Are they? I haven't checked in a while, how's it looking?

>>54683636
Slaanesh is pretty badass for close combat. Nurgle if you want them to last longer.

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How dose an ork army kill .... a StormRaven

truck filled with burnas

two warbuggies with scorkhas

5 Deffkoptas with rokkits

battle wagon with 18 shootas and 6 big shoota shots

gun line with 4 kannons

tell me TELL ME

>>54683636
Possesed they are gonna be bomb when the codex drops yo. And you lotsa daemons and marines mixed makes if fluffafied fluffy.

>>54683583
Spoken like a true tau shitter

>>54683618
Agreed

>>54683636
>Black Legion with daemons

Nigga that's Word Bearers.

Anyway, the Start Collecting boxes are pretty good, they're around 500 pts each so pretty cool. Maybe get anti-tank from Tzeentch, he has some nasty flamers in that regard. Maybe some anti-tank from your Black Legion too, some havoks?

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I have these models in my collection. What should I get next to complete my army at ~2000 points.
I don't mind swapping units out for others.

I've been thinking about replacing the autarch with another flavour of autarch (I currently have one built from scratch). I'm also thinking about getting a warlock and maybe mandrakes.

>>54683490
Weird they can't just come out and say it, instead of playing to "oh, I dunno" game whenever someone asks.

>>54683571
Skull made of eagles confirms Dark Mechanus.

>>54683665
>>54683672
I already have a bunch of Terminators and a squad of Rubricae. I'm planning on getting some Possessed. So, I should get the SC Slaanesh and some Tzeentchy stuff? Maybe some Nurgle stuff if they have any in?

>>54683669
get your own plane. Red barrun that shit up.

>>54683537
Advance and charge is pretty amazing. Their ability to get into combat before getting shot to shit is more likely.

In addition, their rending has more average value for their intended targets.

>>54683700
Tzeench is gonna have a pretty cool spell where you can steal enemy characters if you get a changeling or something.

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>>54683707
soopa shoota jet? variety

>>54683583
Don't give up thats a pretty good start m8

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Nth for waacfaggots banning people from stores over inane reasons.

>>54683669
You can charge it with Stormboyz for laughs. The nob could even do some damage if he has a powerclaw

>>54683713
>Advance and charge
science when do daemonettes have that?

>>54683743
>troll lying on the internet to bait people

FTFY

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>>54683587
I actually went to a hobby shop and picked up the "Getting Started With WH40k" magazine and got the Primaris Marine with it. Watched Duncan's video on how to paint and picked up some paints later. I'm actually pretty surprised how fun it is to paint, here's my space marine, just need to do the base and his eyes.

Anyone use the gemstone paints for SM eyes? Was thinking about using Soulstone Red instead of Bloodletter for the eyes.

>>54683743
but the old terminators are still GW models, the literally can't get banned.

>>54683743
People who think it's not okay to use old models are the most insufferable type of faggots. It's fine, just update base sizes appropriately.

>>54683755
Wasn't daemonettes guy, but I guess I mixed it up with seekers. They still howling banshee, which is always nice.

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>>54683762
>nigger

Lmao, typical Imperial player.

>>54683743
I like all terminators equally

>>54683739
whichever one is good at shooting other planes, so I'd guess the soopa shoota would be that one.

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Chaos is doing a lot better starting out this time. Murrica is looking kind of samey though how do we push through that threshold Chaos/Xenos bros?

>>54683780
>That pic

But anon, that is the wrong way around, it's the Chaosfags that are the manlets.

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>>54683795
>Xenos Bros

No.

>>54683780
Wat?

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>>54683749
This would be the greatest moment of an orks life.

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>>54683762
You forgot to do the eyes friend

>>54683379
No? They've been as active and present as any other first founding chapter.

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>>54683807

>>54683762
After the gemstone paints were released, I tried using it for eyes and it worked really nicely for me. It also looks pretty cool. If you're not good enough to do the lenses normally and/or want a slightly easy way to create a cool effect, definitely go for it.

>>54683443
Need more

>>54683678
Black Legion feature daemons fighting alongside elites. Word Bearers summon daemons in as backup.

>>54683717
Oh, fuck. I love brainfuckery like that. I think I'll go with Daemonettes and Plaguebearers for my main troops, with some Flamers and The Changeling for support, and my Terminators, Possessed, and Rubricae for ranged combat?

>>54683807
>False flagging imperial.

>>54683780
Are you retarded or baiting a You?

>>54683826
Read second part, was asking about gemstones vs glaze paints for eyes

>>54683838
For a red gemstone what did you use underneath? Duncan's video shows he uses an orange layer, just wondering if any other warm color would work

>>54683588
the entire galaxy

vs

some old marines with spikes on them

Yeah it's a wonder chaos has lasted this long at all.

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After 5 years of collecting, delaying and reprinting my first army is finally complete. Sorry I can't post a better picture as I can't seem to find my camera

Post your armies

>>54683854
Hell yeah my friend you have got the gumption to pull it off I believe in you Anon.

>>54683864
>he actually plays 40k

>>54683618

>1. Find people who aren't your faggot "friend" to play with (this is easy).
Can be hard, but yes. Toxic friends will ruin your experience. I didn't realize how much bitching I did until I stopped hanging out with a certain friend who bitched at everything was wasn't his army winning.

>2. Get whatever army you actually want.
This. Don't get whatever is super strong and be a faggot. If you get something YOU enjoy because YOU ENJOY it, your experience will be so much better, even if you lose. It took me waaay too long to grasp this concept.

>3. Build and paint your army.
Don't be like me, that person sitting on 3 unpainted armies with twice as much shit not build yet. I have friends with fully painted shit and they paint that shit right away. Even my friends GF is nearing a fully painted Harlie army and she doesn't even play!

>4. Play game.
Agreed. Unless you're really into the hobby only, fucking play the game. It'll give you motivation to paint and build, too. Play with friends. Okay with people you don't know. Some of the coolest people's I've met have been total strangers wanted to play against my Sisters of Battle because they've never seen them before.

>5. Tell your faggot friend what awesome funtimes you had without him.
You could do this, or just ignore him completely. If he wants to hang out, tell him you're too busy playing 40k.

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>>54683791
I belive so, the Dakkajet is the "Everything" killer

the other two are bombers, and then the last one is "The flying meks cutom work" Jet which i dont know too much

>>54683611
>Then explain how chaos won (though only marginally so) EoT?
Literally by cheating.

Really wins and losses should be weighted appropriately for how played a given faction is, but that would require excessive thought on the part of GW. On raw numbers alone Chaos would require the total cooperation of almost every xenos player to have a chance, which is something they're not getting (the relentless shitposting of chaos players probably didn't help here).

>>54683762
It's an easy option, and as far as eyes go I'm a fan of plain solid colours.

>>54683864
Looks pretty cash any cool stories about your boys?

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GREENSKINS!

>>54683580

Anyone? Am I the only madman with a Dreadclaw?

>>54683861
The thing you want to do with gemstones (this is recommended on the shop page, tutorials, etc.) is use stormhost silver as a layer underneath. Gets the effect done properly and stuff.
If you want to experiment, then go ahead and do something like an orange layer underneath, might be interesting. If not, just go with the proper method.

>guy outbid a carnifex for 70 yesterday
>offer today selling two for 60 apiece
>talk him down to 50 apiece
>get two for a hundred before the single one selling for 70 even closes
Get fucked.

#OilWars
#NotAllHeretics

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>>54683864
Finished this guy today.

Looking ok I think.

>>54683937
>Two carnifexes costs $90 direct from GW

>>54683970
They aren't in stock

>>54683669
I'm going to marry Etna!

>>54683863
The narrative would be objectively better if chaos stayed at warband factions dicking around. Doing basically "terrorism and communist propaganda" than a full scale invasion

>>54683443

How big is the dick?

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>>54683899
Thanks, they're called the Sons of Ymir. They were actually almost completely painted as space wolves before I decided I just didn't like the baby blue color scheme so I stripped them and redid things as I also realized I wasn't a huge fan of how GW was handling them.

In terms of tabletop achievements I only have managed to play a few games as I was busy with work/college. One of my missile longfangs (guy with the bolt pistol) once managed to tie up Lilith for 3 turns in closecombat and came damn near close to killing her on his lonesome after she managed to butcher the rest of his squad. Gave him a deathwatch pauldron when I reworked my army as a sign of his expertise in dealing with edgy xeno shits.

Did manage to play in a tournament but as it was 7th edition and since I was up against some very heavily tailored lists things didnt go well. Hopefully things will turn around with 8th edition turning my dreadnoughts into real powerhouses.

>>54683611
> believing what GW told you.

>>54683980
Physical stores still have them.

Also I bought 4 full kits on ebay for $35 each the week 8th dropped.

So i'm looking to crush all sissies for Chaos on Saturday, and I look at week 2....

it's a defense mission? Where we get points for surviving in our deployment zone? I usually go balls-to-the-wall deepstriking, don't think that's gonna work this time.

So what will?

30 poxwalkers? groups of 5 spawn? knights? HAVOCS!?

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So I just learned what my local meta is (just bought my army). It appears to be marines and craftworld bitch elves. Seems titans and giant eldar thingies are also extremely abundant.

What are some good STRATEGIES to fight them with Dark eldar? I only run about 800 points (still need to get my hands on some scourges to bring me to 800).

Pic semi related. It's all the DE my store has.

>>54683879
Would the SC box be worth it, or should I just look for boxes of Daemonettes?

>>54684032
Lances? I'm not sure if Lance weapons have extra effects on vehicles anymore but thatd be the best place to start. Also make use of poison

>>54684022
Not my stores. Point is that a fuckwit wanted a single carnifex for at least 70 bucks and I got a better price for two.

>>54683937
>got all my Carnifexes for 25$ apiece new on the sprue in 7th edition from Blood Angels players who bought Deathstorm
Get gud

>>54684052
Poison?
I'm already planning on running the scourges with lances. Would I be better off using a ravager instead?

>>54684036
I'd say best bang for your buck is the SC in most cases so go for that.

>>54684032
Focus Blaster/Lance/Haywire fire on the biggest thing if possible - try to get it down to as low of a damage bracket as possible, and if you can't push for enough damage to lower it a bracket, aim at something else. In terms of troops v troops, you'll come out on top, so keep anything that can't severely inconvenience a giant mech out of the frontlines until it comes tumbling down. A Raider with 9 Splinter Rifle-wielding Kabalites and one with a Splinter Cannon can easily rip through anything that's not armored.

A couple questions anons, about fliers:

-it needs to hover for the troops to disembark?
-if supersonic and charged by raptors/whatever that flies it does explode as it can't move?

Sorry for being this newb

>>54684057
I have no idea what makes someone spend $70 on a single carnifex

>>54684032

Holy fuck that was a real model? I know a Dark Eldar player who has one of those and I'd just assumed he was a really shitty converter.

>>54684032
Neat. thats an oop model and I think it looks better than the new raiders.

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>>54683864
Here's what I've managed to get painted in the last week and a half. Quite proud of them, I think I've hit a decent tabletop standard and finally felt ready to start painting my magnetized Knight skeleton. Still need to do the pistons, blend in the bronze with a little bit of Agrax (don't want it too dull, just for recesses) and possibly hit a couple of the sharper than edges with a v. light Leadbelcher drybrush, although I'm worried that will fuck up the black metal that took about two hours of layering washes to get right.

I do have a whole WarConvo, but they're either not painted yet, badly painted in Mars colours that I need to redo in my sexy green or, in the case of my six Destroyers and possibly the Kastelans overprimed and awaiting stripping, which I plan to use meth spirit for.

>>54684102

>hating the old Raider/Ravagers

>>54684102
You should look up more of the old Dark Eldar models. There's a good reason people were fucking ecstatic when they finally got good models that didn't look like ass.

>>54684085
>-if supersonic and charged by raptors/whatever that flies it does explode as it can't move?
Why wouldn't it be able to move?

How are leman Russ tanks? Tempted to start a wise guard army that mainly consist of armor.

>>54684116
locked in combat?

>>54684109
>Dat knight ass

So that's what GW tried to do with the Redemptor Dreadnought. Why they hell did they make it the same size though ...

>>54684075
Alright. I already spent quite a bit on my other army this week, but the only person at locals who runs daemons goes mono-Nurgle, so I should be fine to wait a bit.

>>54684106
>>54684110
You people have no fucking taste. The new Raider chassis is a massive improvement.

>>54684084
Can't have a cannon in a unit of 9. I have one with a blaster too. My venom has 4 blaster trueborn and their lead, so that can be good for drive bys.

>>54684128
>locking a plane in combat

Are you playing 8th edition?

>>54684125
Side***

>>54684128
>Locked in combat

You still playing 7th edition there anon ? Have you had a peek in the 8th edition rulebook yet ?

>>54684085
>Hover to disembark
Unless it specifies otherwise, no.

>Supersonic Explosions
Flying models can move over other flying models, so you should still be able to move in most cases.

>>54684128
...have you even read the fucking rules for this game yet?

>>54684085

Flyers can move over intervening enemy models in their movement phase and usually have a ridiculously high movement. So unless your opponent has literally blanketed the board with raptors, you're getting out of there.

>>54684139
9 rifle-wielders + 1 cannon-weilder = 10 Kabalites

>>54683539
>wants to get guillimarines
>hates smurfs in 2017
Wew nigga.

Just buy an army second hand off ebay or at your LGS

>>54684147
Thanks anon!

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So I just had what must have been the best game I've ever had since I started this game about a year ago.
>DE vs GSC, 2000 points, we did Konor
>opp made sure it was okay beforehand, fielded a baneblade
>I won rolloff, chose to be attacker
>He still seized
>Blows up my succubus/archon/incubus raider
>My turn, successfully dash in and blow up his magus, deepstrike a dark lance scourge squad in, and use them and my ravager to take 14 wounds off the baneblade despite his CP to give it Cover
>Game progresses
>Make it to turn 7
>Turn 6 we realize we'd both completely missed how the points worked, and hadn't at all paid attention to which units killed what(we thought it was the same method of points as week 1
>Decided to just calculate straight VP for kills
>He ended up winning 20-16 since I had more units
>All he had left was a 4-wound chimaera, vs my full-powered archon, haemonculus, and a trueborn squad in a venom with 1 wound left

I've yet never had a game THIS CLOSE...I fucked up moving my ravager over into his patriarch's/baneblade demo cannon's range, letting him blow it up, otherwise I'd have been able to blow up the baneblade by turn 3.

The rockgrinder in the pic lasted 3 full turns with my reavers, a squad of hellions,
2 taloses, AND my haemonculus

The chimaera drove off.

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Obstacle: By putting an open sarcophagus on this it has become apparent that the sarcophagus reclines backwards at an extreme tilt.

On the plus side, shortening the leg nubs on the pelvis so that the dread will have a less wide stance was pretty easy.

>>54684158
Can't use all of them. My archon is in the raider with them.

>>54684138
new one looks like a retarded boat thats too small to fit anyone, much less 10 models, in. that looks like a fast skimmer battle platform.

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>>54684176
some more pics as the game progressed

>>54684138
Not them, but I like both models a lot. I hate the middle part of the old one with the retarded flanges, but I like the back part and the pro better than the literally a boat model we have now. Basically if you put the front and the back of the old model on the new model it'd be perfect.

>>54683969
Darken up the gore bits

>>54684177
>By putting an open sarcophagus on this it has become apparent that the sarcophagus reclines backwards at an extreme tilt.
How the fuck were you not already aware of this

>>54684177
>marines these days
>can't even pilot a dread without reclining sarcophagi

The Imperium's truly lost...

>>54684178
I prefer to go all Splinter Kabalites in the Raider, so I can get 24 shots at rapid fire range.

>>54683669
I'm not big on the idea of ork jets now that flying off the field kills you. Burna truck for the lolz, or lots of dakka. Lootas in a wagon or truck can bring down with weight of fire. If you have that many deffkoptas rokkit spam is still one of best answers to everything. Sucks that rokkits don't cost the same as shootas for upgrades like in 7th but 3 dmg, not d3 thank god, is great.

>>54684032
Kek @ dark eldars' ugly ass models

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The archon managed to chop down the baneblade's final wounds

>>54684177
I was hoping that I'd had seen a way to make the Redemptor look good by now (really like the fist and big ass plasma cannon) but it's starting to look like it is unsalvageable.

So I haven't been able to play any 8th this summer, but I'll be able to finally join in a week or two.

I'm a Necron player, and I've been hearing about "bubble wrapping" c'tan shards being good. What does this mean, is it keeping meat shields in front of the shards? What are the best units for it, and which shard powers are recommended? I've read the "codex" a bit, and the smite equivalent seems solid.

Also, is the monolith finally good? And what should I use to crack open high toughness or high wound units?

>>54684228
What should I do with my archon?

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>>54684259

Well, we'll see.

I'm working from this mockup, plus the open sarcophagus obviously. Looks like I'm also going to have to have it lean forwards a bit to look less like it's in a massage chair.

>>54684177
I may be in the minority, but I like the reclined coffin. Would be 10/10 aesthetics if it were Blood Angels.

>>54684240
>>54684255
>painting your deldar to look like wasps
Fitting.

>>54684280
Put him in another transport with trueborn/incubi?

Or just have him run behind the army, he has a 8" move and if he has a blaster he can advance and fire.

>>54684295

I don't think I mind the recline closed, but it looks weird open.

Which is a shame, because the helmet over the beergut section makes the beergut look okay.

If there was to be a 'Triumvurate' box for Chaos, what would you include in it?

I think Abaddon, Typhus and maybe Lucius or Fabius is my thinking.

>>54684280
Get a Venom and some Sslyths.

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>>54683679
Anyone?

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last pic.

I lost, but goddamn the game was close, and fun as shit.

Also had a bizarre thing happen as we were playing.
>around turn 3
>two random guys walk into the store, obviously high as shit
>one of them is drooling as he stumbled around
>the other guy runs up to us
>super loudly declares that the two are 'from the planet noboru'
>then he puts his hands around his eyes like he's using binoculars
>says he's got photographic memory, wants to memorize everything
>spins around, his backpack nearly takes out half our table
>tells us he's still getting used to the idea of being god
>harasses us a bit longer, then sees the store owner, who's quietly building his catachans, obviously debating kicking them out
>guys walk over to him, start talking about his kilt(He hates shorts)
>loudly tell him he should be wearing panties to 'go with the skirt'
>then they leave

Jesus christ, it was 4 in the afternoon...I've never seen anyone THAT HIGH.

>>54684298
I've considered getting another raider and loading it with my archon, 5 incubi, and 4 sslyth.

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Do imperial aligned human mercenaries make sense in 40k?

Could a mercenary or private force become large enough to afford a warp capable ship?

>>54684177
>crippled by a chest wound
>they have to saw off all your limbs to fit you in the dread

FFFFFFFFF

>>54684285
Yikes ... that looks even worse. Not a fan of the narrow waist.

>>54684285
looks like shit stop posting it, im eating here. if you want mecha play tau.

>>54684298
If we don't get the option to put an Archon on a jetbike in the next codes I will literally burn all of England to the fucking ground.

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THE EMPEROR PROTECTS!

After a searing 14 Chaos Wins and 5 Imperium Wins last week? Our FLGS forgot to report the results in time for the new change over.

Our store officially remains neutral.

Our superior Imperium Player was out of town. He will turn the tide against Chaos. A second chance. Praise the Emperor.

>>54683539
>I was thinking about splitting Dark Imperium with my friend but he doesn't want to paint... at all...

So what? He can just play unpainted like everyone else.

>>54684324
whats the name of that baneblade there anon?

>>54683679
>>54684323

so first off:

put your reavers and harlies into your normal formations - they all have keyword Aeldari, you can run DE and harlies in a CWE army.

As for units, I'd pick up some scourges or wraithguards, or maybe a wraithknight.

also, you can run multiple formations, so you can have a formation of fast attacks, a formation of elites, etc.

you get 1 CP every formation you fill, unless you use one of the big formations.

>>54684356
it was just a default baneblade

>>54684327
What is a rogue trader?

>>54684346
"Forgot"

>>54684327
Isnt that effectively what a rogue trader is?

>>54684363

They're functionally mercenaries if they wish but they're nominally not.

>>54684337

Has a narrow waist either way, I'm just stripping off the double shoulders and over-wide gait.

>>54684333

I'm pretty sure all dreads are quadruple amputees: The dread is your limbs now.

>>54684365
Classic chaos cheating

>>54684361
>not naming your lords of war

Tell your opponent he's a faggot.

>>54684365
>waaaah its rigged
grow up.

>>54684327

Not having a warp capable ship means you are stuck on one planet.

>>54683580
>doesn't actually fly anymore
what do you mean?

It has FLY

>>54684371
The question was "can a private group own a warp capable ship" and the answer is "yeah since like 1st edition"

Is it relentless waacfaggotry for me to take Reavers and maybe Hellions with my Saim Hann craftworlders?

I want some more melee options that aren't just Shining Spears, and I kinda want to use them as wilder Saim Hann Eldar, since they're the most commorite of the craftworlds.

>>54684361
>formations
You mean Detachments?

>>54684380
Oh, he did name it - he names all his big tanks and characters

It was Sirius or something like that. I thought you were curious about which variant he used.

>>54684340
to be fair, he runs as fast a bike.
If he did get a bike it would cost a shitload of points and he wouldn't even be that good in combat still.

>>54684327

There's Rogue Traders that make their money exclusively as militants, fighting wars that the guard haven't been assigned to, or pursuing conflicts deemed outside or unworthy of Imperial attention, or otherwise sanctioned as privateers when Imperial military forces need an upgrade.

It's not all resource capitalism in a Rogue Trader's life. Well, I guess it is, though in this sense the resource is plunder and you gather it through conflict. Like mining or harvesting in a way, except the ore/harvested substance fights back before it's broken up. Actually that's probably also not uncommon in the 40k galaxy as well.

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>>54683443
>looted

So Eldar naturally sided with Imps, any other bets? Deldar will probably be up for any Chaos wins, not that they favour Chaos, just that they'll raid IoM supply lines or shit.
Orks will side with whoever, mercs for Chaos or horde smashing into Chaos reinforcements. Depending on who wins the week.
Tau, Nids, and Necrons will probably be made up on the spot for whichever side wins as well. But less easier for me to guess how to fluff it.

>>54684415
yes.

>>54684419
>he runs as fast as a bike
>archon: 8"
>reaver: 16"
???

>>54684414
I don't think anyone has ever been called a WAACfag for taking dark eldar

>>54684429
I'm DE, and I've been siding with imperium, because fluff-wise, they hate chaos more than IoM, and chaos champs are more entertaining for the wych arenas.

>>54684414
reavers got a significant nerf in 8E, and hellions are okay/10. You're not going to be called WAAC for using them.

scourges or incubi MAYBE.

>>54684324
At the local GW store there once was a bunch of us sitting down and painting, dressed normally despite it being Carnival like a bunch of nolife nerds.
Then one group of dressed up students stops in front of the store, seem to discuss something ... and one of them bust into the store and yells "SUPRISE !" whilst striking a weird pose.

We blatantly ignored the person and went on with painting and our discussion like nothing even happened. The person's entire head turned a shade of red I've never seen before or since. We had a good laugh about it once the whole group had quickly moved on.

>>54684447
Dunno, they're pretty good this edition

>>54684327
>Do imperial aligned human mercenaries make sense in 40k?
On an exceptionally small scale, sure. Like, single star system scale.

Larger organizations will be entirely beholden to the navigator houses, or some other influential patron (inquisition, rogue trader, imperial adeptus, etc) that can get them the navigators they'd need to travel large interstellar distances safely.

What's better:

A 5 man squad of scourges with lances (4)

Or

A ravager

>>54684333
Marines that have suffered so much damage that they can only be kept alive inside a dreadnought don't have most of their limps (or control over them) anyway. Some don't even have their hipbones anymore.

>>54684474
not reavers(who are now incredibly expensive to better match their capabilities), or hellions(who are fast as shit and have decent shooting/melee, but are fragile as fuck)

>>54684177
Were you not able to figure that out just looking at the model?

>>54684438
>moves 8+d6 with his assault weapon
As fast as bikes of OTHER races.

>>54684499
They have combat drugs. So essentially the reavers are t5 and the hellions have an extra attack

>>54684340

Except bikes and sky boards are arena weapons, and as such, there is no reason why a Succubus can't take one other than the model doesn't exist. However, I can totally see a winged Archon because Archons are pretentious fuckheads that would totally go through the grafting process because he has money. Archons are intended to ride with a court inside a venom.

>>54684511
Space Marine bikes are 14". You'd need an awful lot of 6s to be as fast as that.

>>54684516
I mean yes, but I still don't think they're really good enough to call 'being WAAC'

>>54684361
>just a default baneblade

i can fucking see that, i mean the name of the tank not the variant

or does your opponent not name all of his vehicles?
any of them?
not even the fucking lord of wars and super-heavies?

>>54684327
If pirates, chaos and ork mercs can exist and function in 40k I spose it's possible a non-renegade mercenary force could too.

>>54684536
VOIDRAVENS

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Klaws or Kill Saws on Meganobz

>>54684543
see
>>54684418

>>54684490
Depends on the purpose. Lancer Scourges can get into place and pick off crucial targets pretty quickly, while Ravagers are more durable and can take Disintegraters for anti-TEQ.

>>54684546
now see, voidravens and razorwings are far closer to WAACey.

not reavers or hellions.

>>54684572
Am I a cunt for using a voidraven to bring me from 800 to 1000 points?

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Busy weekend
>metal

>>54684402

In 7th it was a 100pt assault Flier with Hover and the Drop Pod assault rule. When it came down, it had to stay in hover, and units that came out couldn't assault the turn it landed. However, the units didn't have to immediately disembark, so it offered a lot of protection, especially with jink.

This is not the case in 8th, where it is a 200pt jump Walker transport or something?

>>54684597
Have you already got a couple in your list?
Taking a single Flyer is fine

>>54684561
i somehow missed this, tank you for bringing it to my attention

My baneblade is called 'Big Willie', his little leman russ brother is called 'Tiny'.

>>54684490
The problem with Scourges is that their kits only come with one special weapon each, whereas Ravagers have all of their options.

If you have the time though, you could just order some from a bits dealer, of course.

>>54684597
nah, I think your list is pretty fair, and a single flyer isn't going to win you the game.

It's kinda hard to be cuntey with pure DE lists now that razorwings are nerfed.

>>54684361
I have them in different detachments because the army builder won't let you put different flavours of Eldar into one detachment.

So scourges with dark lances for blasting tanks and what not?
How are Wraithguard and Wraithblades compared to each other? I know they're both hardy, heavy hitting short range units, but how do I know which variety to pick?

My main opponent is my flatmate's tyranids.

>>54684447
6th edition release for them saw the standard tourney WAAC faggots switch to the new hotness. Dark lance spam + boats + blaster spam was the normal list. Could also include reavers.

>>54684599
as big of a pain in the ass the metal incubi are, the finecast ones are considerably worse

>>54684608
Don't even have any right now. Here's my list:

-Venom 65
>2 splinter cannons 30
(95)

-Raider 95
>dark lance 20
>shock prow 1
(116)

-3 Reavers (+1T drug) 90
>agoniser 4
>blaster 15
>grav talon 5
(114)

-5 Scourges 70
>4 dark lances 80
>blast pistol 10
>venom blade 5
(165)

-5 Kabalite trueborn 55
>4 blasters 60
>agoniser 4
>phantasm grenade launcher 3
>blast pistol 10
(132)

-9 Kabalite warriors 63
>agoniser 4
>phantasm grenade launcher 3
>blast pistol 10
>blaster 15
(95)

-Archon 54
>phantasm grenade launcher 3
>agoniser 4
>blaster 15
(74)


TOTAL: 794

I'm thinking the bomber can easily put me up to ~1000 points but maybe some more infantry might be good

>>54684634
if you're playing nids, you'll want more anti-infantry. perhaps a ravager with disintegrator cannons, slapping splinter cannons on the scourges...

the nice thing about scourges is their Deep strike capability, and you can put 4 heavy weapons on them.

just deep strike them into cover(they're infantry), and watch as their campsite lets them just dominate any targets you aim at.


Unfortunately, I'm not too knowledgeable about other varieties of eldar.

What's the maximum amount of attacks Kharn can pump out?

>>54684622

Four boxes of scourges really isn't that bad a purchase for any dark eldar player. Scourges with just splinter carbines are a solid unit, but you also get a full suit of: Lances, Blasters, Shredders(meh), Heats, and Haywires. That gives you a pair of 10man squads with a set of Haywire and heats, then 4 blasters and lances for the rest of the army.

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Ok 40kg,
So I just went out and bought the new marine codex like a good goyim, and I am fuccn STEAMED that they removed wargear options from the chapter champion and the honor guard. I am sure they removed more. I just built my honor guard this morning based off the wargear in the index, but now its invalid as they can now only take power axes. Can you use index entries and point values over the new reprinted entries? its pretty ridiculous if gdubs expects you to rip apart your dudes to match their newest version of a unit. Did GW give any feedback on this?

>>54684657
so right off the bat, looking at this:

don't waste points on the second splinter cannon on the venom

don't waste points on the agonisers for the kabalites, or the venom blade on the scourges. If they're in melee, they're toast.

look into getting a ravager, more scourges, or another venom/trueborn group

reavers, IMO, work better in bigger squads, so look into getting a group of 6. You can run 2 grav talons and 2 blasters that way.

the huskblade is better for the archon, and that -AP wins games, as does the multi-damage.

>>54684718
They have explictly already stated that you can use Index entry options even if the Codex does not have it, using updated prices from the Codex. You're good, man.

The thing is they just are removing stuff they don't make models for, so yeah.

>>54684730
Everyone tells me that the agoniser is more consistent

What's the best loadout for Inquisitors?

>>54684681
That's an unreasonable calculation really.

Khorne warlord trait gives him +1 attack if he kills a character. But lets assume he's killed... 1, because why not.

He charges some baneblade or something, dunno. Then he'd get 8 attacks at the start, 8 attacks again and for 3 command points, 8 again.

Now with DttFE, you'd add some more. Lets assume he rolls above average and gets like 6 or 7 more hits.

That gives you around 30. Sounds cool.

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>>54684718
If it's in the index you can use it. How the fuck do people still not know this. Rifleman dreads are still in, characters on bikes are still in, everything that is in the index but not the codex IS STILL IN.

>>54683807
W-what if I play both xenos and chaos?

>>54684760
it is, guaranteeing wounds on 4 rather than 5 vs non-vehicles, but D3 damage means you're more likely to take down enemy characters with it.

In that case, though, it's really personal preference. I've loved the huskblade since 7e.

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>>54683864

people are probably sick of seeing this picture, but I'm not sick of posting it yet

>>54684777
>>54684745
The salt level has lowered to a stable level.
thanks

>>54684176
Hey it's the wasp Archon! Glad you had a good match m8. Just about everything painted now?

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>>54683864
I've since picked up a succubus to round out the commanders, and I just bought a Visarch model unbuilt to convert into Drazhar

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>>54684425
I'd still hit it

>>54684176

>shooting heavy weapons out the back of chimeras

Oh, how far she has fallen. I miss my 55pt chimeras with 2 firepoints.

>tfw 40k is one of the few things left you have to live for

Literally everything has been taken from me including my parents and pet dog.

>>54684833
All I got that's unpainted is my haem(I need to strip it down and start again because I put the surface layer really badly back when I was first learning how to paint.

I'm also slowly working on basing everything and adding some yriel yellow to my kabalites and reavers to brighten them up.

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explain

>>54684807
I haven't seen it. Thanks for sharing, it's inspired me to name my minis.

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>>54684880

>>54684370
kiiiind of? They're not mercenaries, although they may well hire them. A Rogue Trader works for profit, but not in the sense that somebody pays him to defend a planet, more in the sense that he'll capture a planet because then he owns the resources on it.

>>54684327

People forget that the Imperium is less a fascist dictatorship than it is a very loose confederacy. The Imperium doesn't have the capability to monitor and enforce the way its one million worlds govern themselves, and is largely satisfied with giving them autonomy so long as the governor pays his tithes.

There is nothing stopping a militant and lucrative human world from selling its military services to other worlds, so long as those worlds aren't xenos or heretic (the Imperial Inquisition DOES care about that).

>>54684547
Nobs with Big Choppas instead

>>54684599
I aspire to have that many incubi o love those fuckers especially after reading path of the incubi. Only on box so far myself. What type of list are you running with those?

>>54684794
Ok. I originally had the husk until someone last night changed my mind. I've removed the agonisers from everyone but the arena champ. I'm thinking I'll get another SC early next year to put my reavers up to a unit of 6 and for another transport, and maybe get a ravager now instead of the scourges. I know the shop across town has one. Problem is that I'm now well below 800 points

>>54684807
Double tracks, huh?

So do the crews argue whether it's called a Russ '28 or a Russ '95?

>>54683861
Do retributor gold for red. Silver is for green/blue.

>>54684642

I'm legit terrified of recast Incubi, which is why I haven't pulled that trigger yet

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>>54684711
>TFW nobody cares

Time to die for the Emperor I guess...

I had an argument at the shop today. We decided to just roll off on it, but.

I needed an 8 inch charge rolled 6-1. I spend a CP to reroll a single die. Reroll the 1, and get a 4. So I'm good?

My opponent claims that I need to redo the entire roll.

Who is correct?

>>54684931
if you have the dosh, pick up the Gangs of Commorragh game.

it comes with 2 squads of hellions and 2 squads of reavers, for FAR less than you'd be paying normally.

>>54684776
You missed the legion trait that gives +1 attack for charging. So let's assume he kills a single monster/character and charges:

9 attacks + 9 from second fight + 9 extra from stratagem + let's say 6 from DttFE = 33

33 S7 AP-4 attacks that always hit on a 2+. I'm not sure even Papa Smurf could live through that.

>>54684904
>People forget that the Imperium is less a fascist dictatorship than it is a very loose confederacy.
It's kind of unique in that it is a loose confederacy... of mostly fascist dictatorships. Both are correct.

>>54684599
I pray that your sacrifice brings us that much closer to Plastic Incubi. Thank you, fellow Kabalite.

>54684953

Don't give him (you)s

>>54684960
You are

>>54684960
actually had this argument happen too.

the command reroll specifically says reroll ONE DIE.

>>54684862
Who killed your dog?

>>54684965
Don't think I did.

He has 6 base, adding 1 from his warlord trait and 1 from charge makes it 8.

>>54684975
Cawl

>>54684880
dognlad drump god emborer :DDD
le based geg
nigger in maga had :DDDD

>>54684936
Just put some together finecast style and China plastic is sure to make you just glue the sword to the base as a counts as. DONT DO IT BRO

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>>54684932

I always thought the standard Russ out of the box looked too tall for their length, so I add the double tracks to widen them out a bit. I think it comes a lot closer to the WWI aesthetic that way.

>>54684973
>>54684974
Thanks guys. That's what I figured. The ruling only effects things like 'Ere we Go, as I suspected.

>>54684936
>pick up some finecast incubi
>my first finecast model, have never really seen the problems with them
>open the box
>flash EVERYWHERE
>pieces don't even fit together properly, I have to cut significantly to get them together
>sashes are massive blobs
>no detail on the backs of pieces that are seen

To this day I have never worked with finecast again.

>>54684960
You were correct. The Command Re-roll Stratagem only allows you to re-roll a single die.

It's abilities like the Orks "Ere We Go" or Black Templars Chapter Tactics, that say "you can re-roll charge rolls", which force you to re-roll both dice. Not the 1CP Command Re-roll.

>>54685006
Kept hearing stories like this but couldn't you send them back for THAT much fuckery?

Would you secede from the Imperium knowing your planet is a backwater and likely won't get skullfucked by the IG/Astartes until long after you're dead?

And in the meantime you don't have to pay taxes.

>>54685020
probably, but with how many horror stories I've heard about finecast, I just decided to grin and bear it since the incubi were(and are) kind of crucial to my army.

>>54683661
So hopelessly one-sided that there is little fun in it, other than shitposting about it on /tg/.

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>>54684987
Woman driver on a phone.

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>>54683661

>>54684982
You're right. Did GW reveal the warlord trait for World Eaters?

>>54685035
>play xenos
>not especially caring about the end result
>tfw I just love the custom missions

the konor missions are fun

>>54683887

>Really wins and losses should be weighted appropriately for how played a given faction is

How do you know they aren't.

I mean, it's entirely speculation that there is an appreciable difference in the number of Chaos and Imperial players participating in the campaign. Considering that this is a wargame it's likely that less then 10% of the game's population is actively going through the trouble of recording the match results and sending them to GW.

>>54684960
I had thought it was as you said, but while in a gw over the weekend the manager said it refers to the roll, so a psyker test or charge would have you spend 1 to reroll both.

While it would be worse for if you rolled a 6 and a 1, if you roll shit on both dice it's better so meh.

He said it was in an faq. Been meaning to look at it.

>>54684770
the rubbish bin

>>54684964
Store dude suggested that. Might. Might not. Here's where I'm at now:

-Venom 65
>2 splinter cannons 30
(95)

-Raider 95
>dark lance 20
>shock prow 1
(116)

-3 Reavers (+1T drug) 90
>agoniser 4
>blaster 15
>grav talon 5
(114)

-Ravager 95
>3 dark lances 60
>shock prow 1
(156)

-5 Kabalite trueborn 55
>4 blasters 60
>phantasm grenade launcher 3
>blast pistol 10
(128)

-10 Kabalite warriors 70
>phantasm grenade launcher 3
>splinter cannon 15
>blaster 15
(103)

-Archon 54
>phantasm grenade launcher 3
>husk blade 10
>blaster 15
(82)


TOTAL: 794

>>54685057
Yes. Each time you kill a Monster, Character or Titanic model the Warlord gains a permanent +1 to Strength and Attacks.

Many years have passed since i played, how are guard n orks doing?

>>54685050
Then 40k is not keeping you alive, it's keeping you from avenging your dog.

Kill the fucking bitch. If some piece of shit did the same thing to my cat life in prison will be a small price to pay for flaying the fucking skin from her face with acid after stabbing her to death.

>>54684862
That's rough dude. Make a tinder with just your 40K collection as photos and swipe right on every chick. Maybe you can find a chick to buy you plastic soldiers.

Life's taken enough from you, it's about time it gave something back.

>>54685094
Alright thanks anon.

>>54685101
Terrible.

Don't read any meme replies after mine.

Now leave and never return.

>>54685101
They're on top
8e heavily buffed little guys. The common guardsman was directly and indirectly buffed in like five ways

>>54684862
fap more. You'll feel better.

>>54685119
Back to the cabin, thanks anon.

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>>54685101
Two of the best armies in the game. Some OP shit right?

Ork Boy Mobs and Conscript Swarms are kings.

>>54685103
2edgy5me

>>54683535
Mine are getting done up with knives, since they're a part of my Primaris Crimson Fists, with Imperial Guard armoured support, and my Primaris lack for good melee troops

I want to build some fluff for my homebrew chapter. What's the earliest date Necrons appeared on an Imperial world?

>>54685074
the faq says that rerolls that reroll dice make you reroll all the dice.

command reroll specifies that you reroll a single die.

>>54685093
looks good for now. once you have more units, the second splinter cannon on the venom is not worth it - it's a single shot outside half range for 15 points, and only 2 in half range...for 15 points.

as far as picking up new shit:
>more ravagers
>razorwings/voidravens >succubus/wyches/bloodbrides, >incubi(>finecast)
>another venom and some sslyth for the archon's retinue and to allow the kabalites to run a dark lance(again, >finecast)
>Gangs of Commorragh for lots more hellions/reavers

My current 1000 pt list is something like:
>succubus with archite glaive and splinter pistol
>kabalite warriors x5(footslogging it), one with blaster
>incubi(with succubus in raider)
>blaster trueborn squad in a venom
>2 squads of hellions
>1 squad of dark lance scourges
>dark lance ravager

>>54685101
really, really good. 8e is the edition of Swarms.

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Rate my color scheme?

I like the white on purple look, but I want second opinions, ignore the file name it's a place holder for a potential Chapter name

For all the talk about '123' attack Berserkers... they still wouldn't be able to kill a Land Raider.

>>54683762
I used to use the blue one, but the red one works so much better, and is nicer too. I might try the green one out eventually.

>>54685225
I'd go for a deeper violet, but it looks good.

good luck painting white.

>>54685231
They aren't supposed to be able to, Anon.

>>54685025
It's only the govenor the people in his favour that don't have to pay taxes then. Everybody else is still fucked, but are allowed to PRAISE CHAOS (if it's not mandatory anyway)

>>54685074
That manager is wrong. The Command Re-roll Stratagem is a single dice, as in one physical cube with numbers on it, not a single roll.

The FAQ refers to abilities that say things like "this unit can re-roll failed charge rolls" - in that case, you do have to re-roll both dice.

What are the best 30k or 40k books featuring the Dark Angels? Also holy shit if you live in BC Canada get the fuck off 4chan and go help fight that fire this smoke is hell

Which of the founding chapters are best fit primogenitors for an Ottoman Empire themed successor chapter?

>>54685231
>Complaining Berserkers are trash because even with an OP strategem they still can't kill a Land Raider in a single turn

You're like those Eldar players that switched to Nids that are whining about how the Swarmlord is trash because its high-damage melee attacks still only kill a single tactical marine.

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>>54683864
Kind of an OK pic, but this is my first model after deciding to switch to edge highlights instead of drybrushing for my marines.

>>54684599
Are those the old one? The new incubi are trash also they don't have helmet guns anymore SAD!

>>54685305
Codex: Angels of Death

>>54685305
Pandorax and Trials of Azrael

>>54685305
Trial of Azrael isn't bad, nor is its sibling book. The audiodrama is particularly fun since the Azreal VA is doing his best Hugo Weaving impersonation the whole time. Not a bad voice for Azrael.

Ezekiel I read on a plane. Not the worst book I've read, but I think DA are sort of stuck with mediocre to bad books usually.

>>54685217
Why use the spearhead and all the hellions?

>>54685225
Blurple underwear/10

>>54685312

Describe how the Ottoman Empire fights.

>>54685331
What's Trials of Azrael's sibling book?

>>54685330
Nobody should advise to read Pandorax. The writer of that book wasn't satisfied with breaking the lore, he also had to ignore physics and basic laws of nature.

>>54685305
Dancer from the Dance by Andrew Holleran

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Is pic related pretty much my only choice for decent looking sisters? Has anyone had experience ordering from this guy?

>>54685319
God I hate those faggots.

t. Nid player since 2nd ed, get these knife-ear queers/blueberry cucks out of my faction reeEEEEEEEE

>>54685324

Edge highlighting is a good evolution anon, practice stepping up your contrast now to make the different parts pop out more.

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>>54684862
Go over to /jp/ and get into Idols anon. Pic related. It's wholesome feelgood motivational stuff.

On topic, what's a good way to start with Thousand Sons? Should I buy the CSM Start Collecting or go straight for Rubric Marines? I'm not sure how it works.

>>54685346
Pandorax, it's a sequel.

>>54683583
I hope no one plays with you taufag

>>54685332
I REALLY like hellions...their models are one of my favourites in the DE line second only to taloses, but christ are they not worth it in 8e.

otherwise, I'd cut the hellions, and bump the kabalites to 10 and stick them in a raider.

>>54684770
Seconded

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>>54685239
Like so? Or just straight to royal purple? I'm a fan of the softer purples but idk how it would look on a model

I've heard white is a bitch to paint, care to explain why?

Cause it would be my first army and I'd rather try something else before I hardmode if it's really that bad

>>54685312
Word Bearers.

>>54685225
>>54685342
This anon is right, drop the superman look

>>54685260
>>54685217
Interesting. I can see the confusion from the other faq about rerolling stuff. Good to know.

>>54685342
So should I whiten up the penis piece?

>>54685368
Just got with Rubrics or Tzaangors or whatever.

Also don't get 40k Tzaangors, they're more expensive and its all for a autopistol sprue. Just get the AoS ones and run them with Blades which are mathematically superior and better looking.

>>54685385
White isn't that hard. Watch the Duncan tutorial on white scars.

>>54685374
See, scourges are my equivalent to your hellions. Love the kabalite elite making themselves into killing machines. I'll add them in for 1k. It's a shame kabals don't have many unique units

>>54684447
Rad, thanks.

Might see how they look in inverted Saim Hann colours.


Is the Gangs of Commoragh box any good? It looks like good value at least. Anyone know if the models it comes with are snap-fit, or the same as the regular ones?

>>54685385
That looks better imo but it's your call bro.

As for the dislike of working with white, it's a combination if it being hard to work detail on white - you have to start with grey and work up, as well as citadel whites being generally shitty.

yellows are almost as difficult.

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>>54685387
I think you're right this looks better

>>54685368
There's nothing of value in the Start Collecting CSM if you wanna play Thousand Sons. You can start with some Rubrics and Exalted Sorcerers, then add named characters (Magnus and Ahriman) Scarab Occult, Tzaangors, and Hellbrutes or Predators for anti-tank to your liking.

>>54685312
Whichever one got BTFO by cavalry.

>>54685385
Okay. Lemme suggest this if it is a first army. Don't give them purple underwear you will regret it.

>>54685368
>go fawn over women who will never know you exist because your life is shit
Why do people like you even exist?

>>54685422
Yeah this looks better.

>>54685411
the box just comes with plain old sprues. They're not snap fit.

As for value, it's around 160 dollars worth of models for like 80, and reavers and hellions are both SOLID units.

>>54685431
I have seen the light anon, thank you for your guidance
>>54685422

I heard Tzaangors with autopistols and chainswords are kinda bad, is that true?

>>54685441
Sweet. Definitely going to grab it then.