Warhammer 40.000 General /40kg/

The Rock will rise again.

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reposting SECRET DUNCAN Space Marine Heroes vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24SGa637s3k

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>download the new SM codex
>read the lore
>Imperium vs Chaos
>Imperium vs Chaos
>Imperium vs Chaos
>Imperium vs Chaos
>Imperium vs Chaos
>minor xenos mention
>Imperium vs Chaos
>Imperium vs Chaos
>Imperium vs Chaos
>Imperium vs Chaos

Justify this.

>>54581421
Our time is soon brother

>>54581446

wow it's almost as if Chaos is overrunning the galaxy and have multiple daemon primarchs manifested in the physical world and the current plot is the space marines beating them back a little bit

>>54581446
Is it really that bad? Upload the epub so we can have a look ourselves, brother-anon.

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>bought this baby last month
>haven't lost a single game with him to anyone

OP mothefucker

>>54581444
Nips are gonna make a fortune selling these on ebay.

>>54581446
>download the new SM codex

WHERE BITCH?

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Would it be legal if I convert a named character to a Primaris to match the rest of my army? The only differences I see are for line infantry, and my coworker and I have been arguing this for like 2 days.

>>54581462
I hope you bought it from a recaster anon

>>54581408
So, just got a box of Scions on the cheap from a friend of mine; How do I work them into a Ad Mech army? Deep strikers are nice, but I'm really not lacking in anti-armor or Plasma. What should I use them as?

>friend wants a rematch against my custodes ans SoS from yesterdays loss
>I decide ill use the same list
>he brings a gorkanaught full of nobs with a warboss and more truks full of boys
>I still almost table him

how can ork boys even compete?

>>54581462
If i put my sisters toddler on the table as my deployment

Would you let them fight?

>>54581475
Are you going to change his stats?

>>54581444
These things are ridiculously expensive. Works out to be the price of dark imperium for the entire set.

>>54581483
Load up on hotshot volley guns and deep strike in on unsuspecting infantry.

>>54581511
Gotcha; I love the idea of Hotshot volley guns coming in on some chumps and pumping them full of shots. Only sad I can't give all of them Volleygus.

>>54581446
We won't need to, this Codex was written before the 8th edition sales numbers came in and Guard and Tyranids shattered records.

Once GW puts out a few more Primarchs that underperform in sales and realize Horus Heresy was popular for different reasons than being lolmarines they'll tone back the marinewank to the usual levels.

>>54581444
I saw evidence that japs that professionally paint the anime figures paint warhammer in their spare time.

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So what have you done to help chaos win the campaign?

today was my first real game trying to win (first couple were just to get the feel for 8th as i haven't played seriously since 3rd edition.

Mission: War of attrition
(turn 5 game ends. player with the most PL killed wins. aka kill units and score their PL (even if you're playing points you score with PL of the unit)

both armies were 2k points
IG army total PL 114
CSM army total PL 97

my army:

patrol detachment
Abbadon
Chaos sorceror (spells: warp time, Presicence, and smite)
csm squad (10 man with plasma gun and missle launcher)
havock squad 1 (5 man 4 las cannons)
Havock squad 2 (5 man 4 las cannons)
CSM Rhino

2nd patrol detachment
Typhus (smite, pleauge wind, miasma of pestilence)
Pleauge caster (smite, miasma of pestilence and Gift of Contagion)

Super Heavy Auxilary detachment
renegade knight (2 heavy stubbers 1 heavy flamer 1 rapid fire cannon, 1 avenging gattling cannon)

My opponent had:

pask in demolisher tank (sponsoon heavy plasma cannons)
2x FW russes with plasma cannon turret + sponsoon heavy plasma cannons
2 taurox (twin punisher cannon + hellguns) carrying 3 squads total of meltagun scyons (storm trooper guys i think) and 3 guys to give orders (one in one and 2 in the other)
Valkyrie (missles + multilaser) carrying: commisar Yarrik (the pussy), 2 units of scyons again (i think .. or storm troopers.. they had 4 plasma guns) chacter to give 2 orders
3 armored sentinels with heavy flamers
5 man unit of ogryn with shields

I put abbadon in a building with 4 floors (top got a dev squad 2nd floor got a dev squad 1st floor got abbadon + sorceror out of LOS but sorceror could see the 3 squads and the tactical squad.

rhino setup in an alley to the side of the building.
Knight setup in a ruined building (but had opening to the side large enough for him to get out.) pleauge zombies bubble wraped him and tyhpus/pleauge caster. 2 doors for all the troops to get out with.

1/3

>>54581475
As long as you don't change the stats, you're fine.

>>54581499
No, just upscale him a bit and base him on a Primaris model. It seemed like a fun idea, and multi-wound models are almost identical except for flavor.

Gabriel Angelos, for the record. Was going to beef up the Gravis captain and make not!Primaris not!Terminator armor. Still using a 40mm base.

>>54581505
>ridiculously expensive. Works out to be the price of dark imperium for the entire set
?
It is expensive but aren't them around 800 yens per marine?

>Not all was triumph and glory, however. The crusade came to many worlds that were beyond salvation. Where there was no hope, Guilliman sought instead to bring vengeance. There could be no saving the hive world of Bhundar from the bubonic taint that covered it, but once cauterised with cleansing fire, the warp disease spread no further. The Daemonic rituals held atop the mouldering ruins of the cardinal world Gloriphia was not just halted but annihilated, and there the daemonic ichor ran in rivers. Not all could be avenged, however. The initial combat drop into Secundus Terra suffered ambushes and catastrophic malfunctions, having been lured into a terrible trap by the Alpha Legion. Although it pained him to do so, Guilliman made the difficult decision to pull back, skirting the whole Primagenesis System, as he could not afford to become bogged down in a long war of attrition. The crusade’s journey later saw it encounter dozens of systems in which countless Imperial citizens were left in thrall to the Dark Powers. This was a bitter reality for Roboute Guilliman, and even if the Ultramarines Primarch was given to dwelling on the Imperium’s misfortunes, there would be no time to do so.

Why are the Alpha Legion too stronk?

>>54581569
>and make not!Primaris not!Terminator armor
Sounds retarded since we don't know what that armour will look like yet, if it is even ever a thing.

>>54581408
In the "other megas" section in the OP,
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
and
https://mega.nz/#F!9NchGZyZ!-V1LhJALxDp9Tw97WzEQGA
should switch places. The first link is the one with no 8e stuff (but is a great collection of older pdfs dating back to RT).

>>54581449
The hour of the Lion is near on the horizon.

>>54581546
PLAGUE.

it is spelled PLAGUE

Any good 3rd party SoS helmets?

I like the models. but not without helmets.

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>>54581546
>pleauge

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Badab War chapter tactics WHEN, Axe-Brothers?

How would YOU incorporate Custodes into a Dark Angels army?

Haven't gotten my hands on the new codex yet. Is it possible to activate two different stratagems at the same time? Like say, Hellfire Shells and Bolter Drill?

>>54581591
Like a Primaris wearing Terminator armor, just a bit rounded on the edges. Dude's also a chapter master, he could probably get his hands on all kinds of custom gear.

>>54581689

half naked in loincloths, doing poses inspired by No Homo: the Anime

>>54581690
Sure, as long as it isn't matched play.

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>>54581546
IG went first ( i did not seize the initiative and i even blew a command point to re-roll)

valkyrie moved up dropped 8 plasma gun guys + yarrik + leader to give orders (re-roll 1's) overcharged plasmas ignored the zombies and blasted the knight titan .. the 2 plasma tanks with re-rolling ones also targeted the knight.. scored a total of 7 wounds after saves.

everything else pretty much ran . Valkryie fired at CSM dev squads killing the seargeant only.

my turn 1. zombies hit the streets. rhino moved up to try tie up one unit's overwatch fire.

cast presicence on dev squad #1
cast smite/pleauge wind on the 1st plasma unit.. 2nd plasma unit got smite 1 zombie unit got -1 to be hit.

killed total 1 unit of plasma guns and brought 2nd unit down to 2. Dev squad #1 destroyed lead taurox putting 6 meltagun guys out on the floor + leader to give them orders.2nd dev team worked over pask. bringing him down to 1 wound)

rhino failed charge zombies charged the one plasma and melta gun squads typhus multi charged the leader the squad and yarrik.

lost 1 zombie to overwatch. typhus brought yarrik down to 1 wound. and rest of the units were wiped out.

zombies on far flank managed to wipe out the scyons and tie up one of the 3 sentinels in melee.

knight finished off the taurox that the dev squad started on.

IG turn 2 yarrik pretty much said fuck this shit i'm out. backed out of combat leaving the one leader to die to typhus and friends. (got back in the valkryie and the valkryie took off to the far end of the table (infront of the lascannon execution squad.lost 2 zombies to the walker put a few wounds on the sentinel back.

2nd taurox managed to get on a flank hidden (1 building out of the picture to the left of the knight)

the 3 russes managed to score 2 more wounds on the knight (he had bad wound roll batch of dice) pask could not see the knight due to the wall in front of him.
ogryn advanced along with the 2 snetinels.

2/3

>>54581689
Make sure you secretly implant head bombs into them in case one of the deathwing accidentally mention a certain group of heretics in their presence.

>>54581444
Not gonna lie, almost expected Duncan to start speaking in fluent Japanese.

>>54581711
>Watashi wa Duncan-san

>>54581535
Yes you can, just field command squads.

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>>54581546
>pleague
>scyons

kys desu famalam baka

>>54581675
Pretty sure FW said they aren't going to go back. Be happy we at least got the named characters rules.

>>54581752
>Pretty sure FW said they aren't going to go back
FAGGOTS

With dread klaws costing 30/15 for each subsequent klaw does that mean a stock dread's klaws cost 60 or 45 points?

>>54581711
You should watch the Sub of the show, the Dub just doesn't do it justice.

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>hordes of 20 man chaos boyz

You'll scream but Gork won't answer.

>>54581462
Post pics of it. How many apoc games do you play in a month?

>>54581757
As someone who plays sharks, has plans for raptors, and loves the mantis warriors I concur.

>>54581546
>public education

>>54581446
link?

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>>54581689
They'd join the Unforgiven. They'd fit right in.

>>54581703
>>54581816
ebin :Dd

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BAY BLADE BAY BLADE

>>54581446

Hasn't the fluff always been like 90% human-centric outside of the Xenos codices?

>>54581689
Have them constantly leaning over the sweaty dark angels, with those judging eyes

Guardian Spear or SN'B on Shield-Captain?

>>54581444
WHY ISN'T HE HIGHLIGHTING ANYTHING? FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>54581877
neither, sheild captains get swordknife

>>54581899
I was more bothered by the golden purity seal

>>54581938
Oh, yes, that makes sense,

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>>54581706
3/3
Melee ensued. typhus cleared out the last of the 2nd unit. zombies wiped out the scion unit and put more wounds on the sentinel

chaos turn 2.

cast maisma of pestilence on zombies. dev squad presience on dev squad. smite spam takes out pask (one bad roll on one of the 2 smites)

one sentinel killed 2nd crippled by fire from teh 2 dev squads ( bad dice rolls even with presience and re-rolls.)

ig turn 3. put more wounds on the knight. from 2 remaning tanks. the scion(hoever the fuck you spell it) finish the knight off with some high damage rolls.) no explosion. sentinel in melee is crippled. ogryn charge into 2nd zombie unit. valkrie goes hover mode yarrik and character get out.

few more zombies die get last wound on the sentinel to kill it .. no explosion.)

chaos turn 3. typhus + sorceror kill the 2nd taurox (finishing it in melee with smite spam softening it up. zombies still cllose enough to get t4. and mortal wounds on units from aura bonus. It took both havock squads to down the valkryie.

rhino moved up to shoot at yarrik rapidfire does notthing to him.

ig turn 4. yarrik charges the rhino (overwatch fails) character next to yarrik also charges the rhino.
ogryn hatefuck some zombies (down to 2 4 zombies in one squad) melta guns move to position to give typhus a new hot asshole. 1 of the plasma tanks + scions (hoever you spell it bring typhus down to 1 wound. and kills the sorceror.

they charge typhus and he reminds them that t5 is not easy to hurt. he proceeds to wipe out the 4 man unit.

chaos turn 4.

tac squad moves out of the building to get clsoer to yarrik (get some rapid fire in but not close enough. sorceror uses warptime to get more of them closer (making a string so the missle launcher doesn't move. Abbadon and sorceror also move up to shoot/smite spam.

cont.. so it's 3/4

>>54581720
No -san when you introduce yourself.

t. weeb
>>54581777
The sub was shitty. They even botched the "two thin coats" line to "apply a thin coat again". Sub>>>>sub for daily Duncan.

>>54581981
>t. weeb
Duncan DOES

>>54581570
Entire set (land raider box ) contain 24 marines (which mean 2 complete set).

>>54581981
*Dub>>>>sub

I'm a retard.

>>54581446
Give us a link you faggot.

>>54576740 (You)

I have a campaign game in a few hours that's 75PL using the Bunker Assault mission. Because its PL, it's WYSIWYG, and I only have 4 blasters and 4 lances, hence the divide. I think it also comes out to be like 1550ish points.

Thoughts? It's vs IG, and frankly I'm terrified.

>Vanguard

>HQ
Archon w/Blast Pistol and Huskblade
Succubus /wBlast Pistol and Glaive

>Troop
Kabalites x10 w/Phantom and Cannon

>Elites
Trueborn x5 w/Blaster x2 and Lance x2
Trueborn x5 w/Blaster x2 and Lance x2
Bloodbrides x10 w/Hydra x3, Blast Pistol, and Power sword

>Fast
Reavers x3w/Blaster, Grav, and Agonizer
Hellions x10 w/Stunclaw

>Flier
Voidraven w/Missiles and Lances

>Dedicated Transport
Raider w/Lance and Prow
Raider w/Lance and Prow
Raider w/Lance and Prow
Venom w/Cannons

>>54581489
for a second I thought you were talking of "Sisters of Battle". I sitting here going "The hell does he mean by a 'Toddler'?"

>>54581959


Rhino moves out of melee.
dev squads both annihalate 1 of the 2 plasma tanks. all the tac squad fire downs yarrik finally.
typhus finishes off the last squad of scions with smite during psychic + destroyer pistol ranged shot + melee.


net result end.

IG 29 points (knight + sorceror points

Chaos 38 points.

Chaos victory.

yes i suck at spelling. i'm rush typing this as it's fresh in my mind.. next time i'll take notes and more pics and run it through word for spellcheck. :p

Fucking zombies are baller with typhus. and that lascannon death star is baller.

i'm wondering what could be done with abbadon +2 squads of terminators usiing combis and a sorceror to get the alpha on someone teleporting in (warptime to get the terminators into melee turn 1 maybe.

Would it be considered extremely douchy to bring 90 boyz to a 1000 point tournament held this Sunday? I'm still pretty new and the only unit that I really have a shit ton of is boyz because I bought a friends old stash.

>>54582022
Bring 100+ grotz, then we'll talk

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>shoot 24 splinter shots
>0 damage
>shoot Phantasm launcher
>kill a space Marine
>mfw

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>>54581816

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Doing a rescue mission. here's my list, using points even though its a narrative mission.

>HQ:
Longstrike, Railgun, smart missile system, 2 seeker missiles

Coldstar commander, missile pod, high yield burst cannon, target lock

>Troops:
9 x fire warriors and marker light
1 x devilfish with burst cannon and gun drones.

9 x fire warriors and marker light

9 x fire warriors and marker light

>Fast attack:
10 path finders, 3 rail rifles, 1 pulse accelerator drone

10 pathfinders grav inhibitor drone

piranha fusion blaster seeker missile

>Heavy support:
hammerhead with railgun, burst cannons.

>Fliers:
barracuda with ion cannon, 2 long barreled burst cannons and 2 missile pods

Points 1500
cp 6


thoughts?

>>54582030
>Bring 100+ grotz, then we'll talk
i want to bring 100 zombies. do i need help?

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Alright, now that I've got the Codex in hand and have had a read through it, I'd like some advice on how to spend my last 101 points.

So far I have:

Captain 74 + Power Axe 5 + Combi Plasma 15 = 94
Devastators x 5 65 + Lascannon x 2 50 + Missile Launcher x 2 50 = 165
Devastators x 5 65 + Grav Cannon x 4 112 = 177
Razorback 65 + Twin Linked Heavy Bolter 17 + Storm Bolter 2 = 84
Venerable Dreadnought 90 + Assault Cannon 21 + Storm Bolter 2 + CCW 40 = 153
Techmarine 45 + Power Axe 5 + Servo Arms x 2 24 + Flamer 9 + Plasma Cutter 7 + Combi Plasma 15 = 105
Thunderfire Cannon 55
Techmarine Gunner 26 + Servo Arms x 2 24 + Flamer 9 + Plasma Cutter 7 = 66 (Thunderfire total = 121)
899

Obviously going for more pew pew than stab stab; I was originally just adding in some Servitors to round it up to 1000 and to put something in the line of fire of the enemy, but I would get a stock standard Whirlwind and double down on the artillery, which would also benefit from having a Tech nearby to patch it up while it absorbs shots for him and the captain. Is there anything else I could fit in with that limited points? Maybe an apothecary instead?

>>54582048
Knew someone that had some 100 cultists.

>>54582022
Do it. Do it for all the years of riptide wings, scatterbike spam, unkillable deathstars, make them suffer under the weight of all those gitz.

>>54581462

wow I'm sure it's beautifully painted and accompanying a fluffy army, not bare resin alongside shit-ass min squads of space marines that have been primed one color for three years.

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Yncarne versus Guilliman who comes out on top math wise?

>>54582074
Eldar suck.

>>54582074
Gay eldar-human interracial sex does

>>54582074
Gorillaz

>>54582074
Guilliman no doubt
Yncarne is pretty tanky when surrounded by aeldari infantry, but no chance in a 1v1

>>54582047
>HQs
good, which one is warlord?
If coldstar, a shield generator is needed
Also a fireblade would be nice, chuck the PAC drone with him and have 3 shots at 18" from each strike team
>Troops
27 FW can be 4 squads of 5 and 1 squad of 7 for MSU and battleshock resistance
Also are they all strike teams?
If they are then devilfish is useless
>Fast attack
4 squads of pathfinders, 3 with 5 pathfinders and 1 with 2 with 3 Rail rifle + 2 PC/ML
Grav inhib drone is meh, add another PAC drone.
Piranha are only worth it for S5 shots so burst cannon and no upgrades, especially not seekers.
>Heavy Support
If you want that third seeker put in on hammerhead as it has better BS
Not taking drones or SMS on hammerheads is literally heresy and worth ending one's life, they're a downgrade that costs no points, never used burst cannons
>Aircraft
Always take cyclic ion blasters on it, burst cannons are shit now that they're 4 shots not 6

Decent list but MSU

>>54582074
>who comes out on top
Yvrainw

>>54582056
Hmm, I could also fit a minimium size Intercessor squad for 100 points; less pew pew, but gives me some more boots on the ground and a speed bump to put in the way of enemy assaults.

>>54582074
I mean do we know if Gulliman is into that shit?
maybe he likes being a top or maybe he's a bottom or even a switch, though I'd guess that Yncarne is a top, being an eldar and all unless eldar have a secret submissive side

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>>54582083
>>54582139

>>54582116
long strike is warlord with fnp

yeah i might divy them up and yeah, all strike with pulse rifles.

yeah i'm already dropping the seeker missile.

don't have 2 pacs, only one and one., you're fight about the hammerhead though, burst cannons was because last game was victory points based on unit kills. but since this is rescue that shouldn't be a problem.

Also its the old barracuda so no options.

Overall i'll take some of your advice.

>>54582074

Guilliman comes out on top vs. virtually any model in the game right now.

>>54582164
Yeah sure Marcil - I mean Yvraine.

>>54582091
No wait, math does not agree with me.
Guilliman can do an average of 5 wounds to her, while she can do an average of 4.1 to him
But she can soulburst herself and attack twice, doing 8.2 wounds to him a turn.

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>>54582204
>her
>she
>herself

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Are Baneblade variants outside of the Shadowsword and Stormlord worth taking? Without something like the Marauder's Sky Fortress or even Grinding Advance it looks like my centerpiece model isn't going to move anywhere being BS 4+ before the penalty.

>>54582204
Did you count the potential extra mortal wounds he can do?

Question: Can a hellforged leviathan dreadnought take two grav-flux bombards? The rules seem weirdly written, especially in context with the loyalist one being able to take two.

"A hellforged leviathan may replace one siege claw and one melta gun with one of the following (both siege claw and melta gun must be exchanged for a single other option)"

Does that mean the sack of shit is stuck with one siege claw and melta gun, or can I roll with two grav flux bombards?

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Spent several hours making this

>>54582255
Pretty sure they changed it in the FAQ so you can regardless.

>>54581899
Because you touch yourself at night.

>>54582238
I counted him using the fists.
Using the sword he does 4.16 wounds normally, plus 1.4 mortal wounds.
So a little bit more, but not by much

sup /tg/, just bought the Imperial Knight box, the one with multiple weapon options.

I'm gonna do him up as a renegade knight and run him to support my CSM. What loadout is best for him?

I have to paint a bunch of tyranids in a few hours in the early hours of the morning and then walk 3 miles to my local GW in 90 degree weather again.

Today it is 1 biovore, 10 termagants and half a trygon.

Send me your energy /tg/.

>>54582264
They did. Thanks anon. Stupid question.

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>>54582259
Love it.

>>54581991
Yeah, but those boxes are gashas so It is pretty posible It will have a lot of doubles or more of the same model.

>>54582259
Calgar Heresy soon?

>>54581446
>>54581465
Yeah. Where?

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>Land was to eventually die leading a second expedition into the Librarius Omnis. It is believed that he and his party were picked off one by one by some mysterious predator, although it is still a matter of much debate whether this was some kind of living beast, a psychic entity or perhaps even a sentient virus. For most it is simply proof that the secrets of the Dark Age of Technology are best left in mystery and prehistory.

RIP in Piece monkeyman.

>>54582276
I'd probably run him with the following...

Avenger gatling cannon w/ heavy flamer
Rapid-fire battle cannon w/ heavy stubber
Ironstorm missile pod
Heavy stubber

Pretty expensive but has a lot of fire power.

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>>54581478
>getting a recast warlord
Might as well start a new recast army instead

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>>54582299
That servitor's fucking face
>das it mane

>>54582344
I really REALLY wish i could be a techno archaeologist with a gun that fires nuclear bullets, a tank named after me and a cybernetic monkey.

Penitent engines look fun but man they are so squishy. Is it worth just taking one as a distraction carnifex?

>>54582046
I love this

>>54582299
ty

>>54582316
He got made a tetrarch and got told to do his own thing, i think he is content (if not happy)

>>54582352
>paying $2000 for an oversized hunk of resin
How about no

>>54582389
>one
>not a maxed out spear head

How can you love the emperor without at least 24 penitent engines?

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POST MODELS YOU GROTS

>>54582352

>paying £1,700 for a toddler's weight in resin

>>54581421
Luthor said that the lion would return soon in 7th Ed. 100 years have passed and he still hasn't returned. I wonder what luthor meant by soon.

anybody leak the pdf for the space marines codex

wait can vehicles overwatch

are fire arcs gone

im so confus

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>>54582442
todays my birthday and i bought this man yesterday

>>54582458
>people still posting measurements of time as if it has any meaning in 8th when an entire order of the Inquisition fractured into 5 pieces and had a civil war involving time travel paradoxes over the dating system and half the galaxy is now ass-end up against a bleeding warp rift that fucks with the passage of time

>>54582475
yes

yes

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Thinking of buying some sisters of silence, should I make them ranged shooty, melee or burny?

>>54581569
Forge world recently announced that they are making a Gabriel angelos model.

>>54582442
>Ork players really do exist
I feel I'm going back in time to an era of joy and wonderment. A time before T'au were released and weebs subsequently jumped on the 40k memewagon and oldfags left in droves because of it.

>>54582389
Nah man
One guy I played against a week ago or so took 6 of them.
They are impossible to charge with all those heavy flamers, and using faith points to get an easy alpha strike is pretty great.

>>54582497
>making
It's already done

>>54582487

Should probably buy them while we can, geedubs will probably commit a shoa of oldmarines in the near future

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>>54582442

>>54581705
Matched play doesn't forbid multiple stratagems in a pase, it forbids using the same stratagem more than once per phase.

>>54582083
Yncarne is more female than male.

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>>54582442

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>>54582442
have a WIP of my test Celestial Lion.

>>54582502
Tau were released in fucking 3rd ed you newfag, stop pretending to be one of the oldfags.

>>54582494
Shooty ones can pick out snipers, so that's something to consider. However, they're all good. I plan on having 10 of each at some point.

Has anyone ran a pure coven lost yet as DE in 8th? I'm smashing all my friends with my kabal lIstanbul and have been asked to run something friendly

>>54582516
It's exactly the same amount of each

>>54582525
Psykers*

>>54581587
They aren't but they will make your victory cost more than its worth it so the sensible thing to do is just leave before everything malfunctions around you

>>54582490

yikes thanks

>>54582521
T'au are one of the main reasons GW went from loving money and hobbyists to hating money and hobbyists, faggot. Sorry that your memory doesn't serve you well.

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20ish hours over the past 5 days and my ork infantry is onto the shade stage

>>54582551
Remember when geedubs used to actually have hobby articles on their website?

>n the aftermath of the battles upon Rynn’s World, Pedro Kantor had much to do. The Daemons had brought ruin to much of the planet. The Chapter, so painstakingly rebuilt, was once more decimated, and with Primaris reinforcements from Archmagos Cawl, there were entire new companies of Crimson Fists that had never known Rynn’s World or the Chapter’s rituals. As in awe of the Ultramarines Primarch as Kantor was, the Chapter Master of the Crimson Fists was simply too overstretched to do more than thank the Lord Commander of the Imperium for his timely arrival. Pressed for time, Guilliman spent but three days on Rynn’s World as his crusade refitted itself.

>Before he left, Guilliman summoned Pedro Kantor. Arriving late and still in the same uncleansed battle garb, the Crimson Fists Chapter Master felt trepidation as he stood before the Primarch. Guilliman, who did not miss much, instantly read Kantor’s discomfort. For the first time in months the Primarch laughed – not in spite, but mirth. ‘Be at ease, Chapter Master,’ he said. ‘I have not summoned you for censure, but to speak earnestly. Rogal Dorn thought there was no higher purpose to the existence of the Astartes than the unification of Mankind. I see that in you also. And his determination. We – I – need men who fight bravely even when faced with great tragedy. I have seen with my own eyes in recent days how you inspire intense loyalty in those around you. And I see you hold duty above glory or vengeance. My brother would be proud. Reassemble your Chapter, Pedro Kantor, and look now to the future rather than the past – the Loki System, and the Imperium entire, has need of you.’

Roberto is best dad.

>>54582551
They had nothing to do with that, and I don't even like Tau so I have no particular reason to be defending them.

GW went downhill during the public corporate takeover. That started right around 5th edition. Tau had already been out for years and wasn't even that popular of an army back then, and had nothing to do with "GW hating hobbyists", sweet christ you are a fucking retard. You sound like some fresh reddit newfag who is regurgitating some warped story you heard from some other shitty newfag who pretended to be around in the early days.

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>>54582442
i took a break from working on them to field him today. He bitch sapped yarrick.

>DUTY BEFORE VENGEANCE

>When the Great Rift swept across the galaxy, the Black Templars fleet was badly scattered. It was as they mustered to continue Helbrecht’s single-minded pursuit of the Ork Warlord Ghazghkull that Primarch Guilliman arrived. Although High Marshal Helbrecht welcomed both the Primarch and the new Primaris Marines that joined his Chapter, there was little time for war council – and little need, in truth, for High Marshal Helbrecht knew his mind. With Chaos forces rampant and much of the Imperium isolated, Guilliman grew frustrated, but before departing he reminded Helbrecht of the blade he carried. The sword borne by High Marshal Helbrecht is a sign of office, a weapon wielded in turn by every High Marshal since Sigismund. As the tale goes, the Sword of the High Marshals was forged from the remnants of the blade of Rogal Dorn, Primarch of the Imperial Fists Legion, from whom the Black Templars were created. According to the legend, it was Rogal Dorn who discovered the beaten body of the Emperor aboard Horus’ ship, and fulfilling his father’s last request, returned him to the Imperial Palace to be interred upon his Golden Throne. It was at that moment Dorn shattered his sword in rage at his failure to defend the Emperor of Mankind. It was Sigismund, then the First Captain of the Imperial Fists Legion, that gathered the shards, although at the time he knew not what would become of them. With the splitting of the Legions during the implementation of the Codex Astartes, Sigismund would become the Black Templars’ first High Marshal. It was then that he decreed that the Sword of the High Marshals should incorporate shards of Dorn’s weapon, forever reminding his sons of their duty. Chastised by Guilliman’s greater perspective, High Marshal Helbrecht immediately sent forth crusades to aid every Ecclesiarchal world within reach.

Girlyman : Damn it, Helbrecht. Stop wasting your time on NPCs!

>>54582584

Yes yes, our spiritual liege saves everyone and everyone loves him and he beats all the bad guy and FUCKING SPIRITUAL LIEGE SHIT FUCK

>>54582610

>chaos aren't npcs

>>54582610
Based Siggy

>>54582584
>Pedro is the big hero of the story, defends the world till almost the last man, learns to care about the people of Rynn's World as more than just obstacles
>SPIRITUAL LIEGE COMES IN, AND HE'S SO COOL, AND HE GAVE HIM SOME DUDES, BIGGEST HERO

This new edition has made me hate all blue marines and anyone that plays them

>>54582004
I use Necrosius with Typhus to re roll the 1s and they are hard as fuck to kill

>>54582588
GW began the steps on the road to damnation before that. The shift from making hobby models to making models for kids began right around when T'au were released. The amount of kids I saw at hobby stores and local tourneys had fucking exploded and from that point on it was all about releasing OP shit in waves so kids would keep buy shit to keep winning. It was a gradual shift but a noticeable one. When the corporate takeover happened, the new corporatefags simply shifted even harder in that direction the culture of GW, but the shift was already happening.

Anyone ever see nerd rage at their shop?

Today one guy got beyond salty when his ahriman got gibbed by a guard lascannon and started throwing his casualties into his case from across the room

>>54582648
>I have horrible reading comprehension issues: the post
The more I see the actual marine lore that snowflake chapterfags are constantly sperging about as MATT WARD REEEEEEEEE and realize it's not even a tenth as bad as they say it is, the more respect I lose for Space Marine players

>>54582660

One of my friends got told to be quiet by staff at WHW when he started raging and shouting that I blew his stormsurge up with my 3 ravagers in a single turn.

Me and my friends regularly get salty and rage at each other, it's all in good sport though for dramatic effect. Only one of my pals doesn't and games vs him are generally too chilled to be memorable.

Did my part today, fought grey tide marines and orcs today to screw over the imperium. I think the marines were raven guard but didn't even bother remembering.

>>54582610
Black Templars are the best successor Chapter tbqh

I would like there to be more focus/ stories about others, never been any stories about the iron hand , white scar or raven guard successors, or most of the ultramarine ones for some reason.

Only imperial fist successors and some of the dark angels and blood angels ones get any attention

>>54582655
>and from that point on it was all about releasing OP shit in waves so kids would keep buy shit to keep winning
This is how I know you're a newfag making shit up. Tau literally were never OP until halfway through 5th and even that one memelist wasn't that bad.

Also you spell it T'au, just how fucking new are you holy shit.

>>54582660

Maybe ten years ago I witnessed a maybe 40 year old guy tailor a list to play against probably a twelve year old, and then promptly ragequit when he fucked up his deep strikes into terrain.

I am not proud of the people we share a hobby with

>>54582648
>minor chapter gets a headpat and kind words from a Primarch
>get mad for some reason

I wish I can get headpats from Roboute-sama.

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>>54581408
Do we have a scan of the marine codex? couldnt see it in the mega

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FUCK GUILLIMAN

MANLET UPRISING

>>54582681
I think Tau were OP in third, but were weak in 4th and 5th. I don't remember them being bad in 5th, that was stupid grey knights and space wolves and deep striking land raiders edition.

>>54582660

Does getting pissed count? Cause if so I am not proud to admit I have become quite angry about the results of a game once before.

There has to be one fucking chapter that isnt sucking Bobby G's dick

They cant all fucking like him

>>54582648
pretty bad at reading my man

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>>54582676
Good lad! Gotta keep pushing!

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Where can I find the prisoner stats?

>>54582714
>All those none veterans with double red fists
Besides that your Pedro looks great, fellow Spicc Fister.

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>>54582610
Is this in the new Codex?

Also, why is their relic some crusader helm instead of what it should be?

Should I order 5x celestine and bitches from chinaman so I can make some actually good looking seraphim?

>>54582714
I kind of wish the crimson fists had more models and rules

pedro is my favorite 40k character and I hope he can rescue his best friend allesio from the degenerate eldar

>>54582736
Theyre all sternguard

>>54582680
Yeah, its weird; I like the Black Templars, but I'm surprised they get so much focus compared to any other successor chapter.

If nothing else it seems like an easy way for GW to churn out some new stuff for Marine players to buy.

>>54582728
Forgot to mention I'm playing tyranids

>>54582734
Jesus Christ who sculpted that trash?

>>54582716
>that was stupid grey knights and space wolves and deep striking land raiders edition
Those were all definitely overpowered as well but devilfish armies were a bitch that edition, especially if you played a melee army.

Space Wolves were the absolute worst. Fucking Jaws of the World Wolf. Most bullshit psychic power ever.

>>54582734
These fucking things. I would actually get proper slave girl models for my dark eldar pimp cruisers if they didn't look like this.

>>54582746
AoBR Marines ain't look as good as actual Sternguard models

>>54582740
They dont even get their own chapter tactics anymore, and their relic is dumb

>>54582668

One of the main appeals to playing spess mehrines, at least to me, is how well set up the universe is to make your own special snowflake chapter of your dudes.

I mean, a self contained chapter of a thousand dudes who have whatever beliefs and ranks and titles and colors that you can come up with is a pretty nice blank canvas to work in until the spiritual liege shit started appearing.

>>54582723
Stop being such a fucking autist. He's a Primarch, why wouldn't they like him. You sound like a 1d4chan memer who joined up right when the hate matt ward meme was hot shit for cringey newfags.

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>>54582748
Your hive fleet is much appreciated!

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>>54582674
I'm a big fan of how much salt my Dark Eldar have been producing in my alpha strikes.

I love their pain, love it.

>>54582723
Minotaurs prolly don't like him.

>>54582765
Because he was brought back by xenos witchery and heretic tech?

>>54582762
Guilliman's existence does literally nothing to prevent what you're talking about.

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>>54582758
I literally got 100 monopose paint-demo marines for free and decided to paint them up for a meme army led by Pedro

Everyone's all mad at Guilliman but he's basically just an aunt reminding wayward children how much their mom loved them and how they wanted them to finish college and not become a gang member.

>>54582765
Nigger the primarchs didnt even like each other

In fact its kind of a big part of the story

>>54582681
They were pretty strong, faggot. I said that the army's creation created a shift. The shift was GW releasing OP shit so that faggots would buy that stuff so they could win games. Railgun Hammerheads with marker light spam was the order of the day, along with devilfish. Hammerheads were cheap models until GW suddenly bumped the price of those sorts of models, citing "rising fuel costs" as the reason. T'au made GW change their release priorities.

I've still got painted Ultramarine models with golden yellow trim and aquila, red bolters and termies with hazard striped powerfists. That shit changed in 1999. I was playing a good few years before that.

>>54582752
>Most bullshit psychic power ever.
That was daemon summoning spam back in 7th

>>54582660
I'm going to start playing the Globetrotters theme and doing basketball tricks with my minis when they die, like slide them up and down both arms until they land in my army case across the table.

>>54582747
Well, they did have their own codex for the longest while and decently important in 3e and 4e only to be mostly forgotten by this point.

>>54582787
Nigger nobody in the Imperium has seen a living Primarch in 10,000 years. Primarchs are basically baby Emperors.

In fact its kind of a big part of the story

>>54582778
>xenos witchery
How many people were told about that?

>heretic tech
Uh, no. The AdMech are the ones who decide what tech is heretical. Non-AdMech don't have a fucking clue, and don't really care. They take their cues from what the cogheads tell them. I don't think they're going to bat an eye at the blessed suit of armour that is keeping a living legend and literal son of the Emperor alive.

>>54582762
I just play space marines because they have cool armor that hides their face and they have the most parts support.

It's the same reason people pick certain Japanese sports cars even though their horsepower sucks: it's because they have the most aftermarket parts.

>>54582780

I was more referring to the original spiritual liege sperging

>>54582802
I can guarantee that the space wolves wouldnt be sucking the lions dick if he came back, or vice versa

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>>54582762
How in the world does Bobby G stop that?

>>54582788
>I said that the army's creation created a shift. The shift was GW releasing OP shit so that faggots would buy that stuff so they could win games.
You're fucking retarded if you believe this was taking place in 3rd ed. Stop making shit up.

>>54582805
According to GS 3, Imperials are disturbed by the manner of Girlyman's return and methods used to make it possible. So people know.

And it wasn't the Admech. It was Cawl who the admech view as a borderline heretic.

>>54582723

Primaris acceptance rate is 94% according to Dark Imperium, meaning somewhere out there, 60 different chapters told Guilliman and his chads to piss off.

>>54582759
How's their relic dumb? It's thematic and good as far as I can tell.

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>>54582442
Just based him.

>>54582787
No one knows this, retard. There aren't Black Library novels about the HH in-universe in 40k.

>>54582825
>salty
What?

>>54582777

Minotaurs don't like anyone. Except the Highlords. And the Lamenters.

>>54582837
The Wolf and the Lion.

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>>54582828
Cawl is a fucking AdMech, and SOME other Admech view him as a heretic, just as some inquisitors view other inquisitors as heretics, and some sects of the Emperor's faith view others as heretics, and some Chapters of Marines view others as heretics. There's no fucking homogenous majority viewpoint on any of these matters and especially not one that's going to travel by word-of-mouth across relatively disconnected sub-factions spread out over millions of worlds across the whole fucking Galaxy. There's no newspaper that goes out to all the marine chapters and starts scandalous rumours about how the no-name coghead they've never heard of who brought back a Primarch apparently is disliked by some other cogheads over some tech shit they don't understand or give a fuck about. You're so fucking dense.

>>54582834
>>image size
I done fucked up.

>>54582823
I doubt they would suck his dick per se, but they would probably be overcome with reverence all the same. Don't forget that the Imperium had shifted culturally from one of critical thinking to one of religious piety bordering on extremism. Primarchs are religious figures in Imperial culture. Bjorn is the only Yiff that lived back then, so he'd probably do a Dreadnought-shrug and go "Oh, a Primarch. That's cool."

How do you read 40K time?
Like, what in actual numbers is 998.M41 and 993.999.M41?

>>54582854
Which is a story known pretty much only to Space Wolves and Dark Angels, aka around 2000 guys in the entirety of the quadrillions of beings in the galaxy, and has nothing to do with the fact that an Imperial Fists successor might admire Guiliman, especially when said Primarch is speaking fondly of his brother Rogal Dorn who is said guys actual gene-father.

>>54582827
I SAID T'AU STARTED THE SHIFT TO THAT TREND YOU FUCKING BRAINLET LEARN TO READ

>>54582879
>998.M41

Year 40,998 AD

>993.999.M41

December 28, 40,999 around 11:00 AM.

>>54582885
Yeah except they didn't, you're just a dumbass.

t. guy who has been around since early 2nd edition and nothing notable happened in the direction of the game that was in any way connected to the tau release in 3rd

Stop pretending to be an oldfag to try and fit in, you just make yourself sound more fucking stupid with every post.

>he spells it T'au and claims he was around in 3rd ed and old enough to read
Fucking lol

>>54582834

Lookin' good

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>>54582885
>T'AU

Of all the newfaggy things you say, this is the newfaggiest.

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>>54582723

We hail the void father, not his broken son.

>>54582909
>AT'aui

That image is Widowmaker blowing a kiss, not giggling.

>>54582893
>December 28, 40,999 around 11:00 AM.
How do you get that?

>>54582442

I don't have any new pictures.

>>54582921

993 out of 1000 portions in a year.

>>54582931
Hu...Neat.

Thanks.

>>54582909
>>54582906
It's nice and easy to trigger a fa/tg/guy by saying T'au. Or Aeldari. Or Drukhari. Don't you like Orruks? U mad bros.

Besides, I'm not pretending to be an oldfag to "fit in". Who the fuck wants to fit in to /tg/? This place is and always has been cancer, full of autists jerking their knees so hard they could VTOL. Don't judge my actions by your "muh 4chins klub" standards, faggot. I say shit I believe and if you think that makes me a newfag, then that's your retardedprerogative. In my opinion T'au's release was what caused GW to chase after little kids who like to buy powerful big models. 40K in 3rd was mostly vehicles providing support to infantry. Now it's infantry providing support to vehicles.

>>54582961

Orruks are the fantasy version. 40K orks are called Orrucs.

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>>54582442

How long could a highly respected Guard officer be expected to live?

Could someone who fraught in the Third War for Armageddon reasonably be a commander during the Konor Campaign?

>>54582961
holy shit this a is a new pasta on the same level as "Riptides are the tau teq"
let's get on it

>>54582802
>Nigger nobody in the Imperium has seen a living Primarch in 10,000 years

exept for Magnus you know .. when he went and started pushing imperial's shit in...

>>54582974

Fresh-faced officer in Armageddon would be a grizzled old man with bionics and rejuvat treatments on his last legs at Konor.

Or he made a warp jump and was lost for 100 years.

>>54581408
Anyone got a compilation of all the random scans from the SM dex? I'm mainly after points values and relics/stratagems/warlord traits. I want to use the new stuff tomorrow without looking like I'm making shit up.

>>54582685
Why does he even need to be there?
All he adds by being there, is the opportunity for GW writers, to take well written characters, like Pedro, and write them to be in total awe of this total Gary Stu, when he hasn't done a single thing

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>>54582723
Some legions need more marines, so they need those primaris to replenish their ranks

>>54582974

Ship lost in warp fixes basically every time related issue you could ever have

>>54582991
>Why does he even need to be there?

Are you retarded? It's to deliver the Primaris reinforcements, and because everyone is having a hard time navigating the new giant tears in space, except for him somehow.

That's a stupid fucking question and if you don't know it, then you're a fucking moron.

If GW hadn't ripped the galaxy in half he wouldn't need to be there, but they did, so fucking deal with it unless you'd rather just have 50% of the chapters be extinct or in lamenter smode.

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>>54582442

>>54582974
They do have age treatments, so its not impossible. They'd need a good reason to keep him around though.

>>54582961
>In my opinion T'au's release was what caused GW to chase after little kids who like to buy powerful big models
And your opinion is fucking retarded because Tau didn't have any "powerful big models" in 3rd, or in 4th, or even in 5th. The amount of autism in your post is fucking unbearable, literally copypasta tier. Here's your last (You) fucking newfag.

>>54582520
Seems a tad too shiny

Played my first game of 8th yesterday using the Primaris from the starter set with a Primaris librarian.

Honestly I got tables very hard, my opponent was using Astra Militarum and he had so much firepower. Plus I didn't have the space marine codex yet while he was using the AM one. His regiment tactics gave him +1 to hit and he just shot me off the board.

If I want to stand a chance, I need to get the Space Marine codex to compete right?

>>54582961
>post starts out with "I was only pretending to be retarded" and ends with "haha double-twist I am ACTUALLY retarded"
This is incredible

>>54583012
No body had big powerful models until they brought lords of wars in. Before it was apocalypse only shit which was segregated. What a fucking newfag

>>54583023
Guard don't have their 8th codex yet...

>>54583032
It's a hot new bait, don't respond.

Anyone have the DL for Shroud of Night yet?

>>54582723

>Space wolves like him

>even the Black Templars like him


who else even is there once the main two "fuck you" chapters like him?

>>54582974

You can live 400 years ish with rejeuvenant treatment

>>54583006
Half the point of the Rynn's World book, was about them learning to respect the population of the world as actual human beings, and not just savages.
It was perfectly set up for them to start recruiting from Rynn's World after this story, and regain their numbers for a chapter that is more united and focused. It would have had a more anti-ork spin to it, and would have made for some nice new characters.

Instead
>lol girly man shows up and have some primaris cus you know we gotta sell those new models my man

>>54582781
Ah, you're that guy. I was wondering what became of that.

Using knights still considered cheese?

Model looks awesome as fuck

>>54582961
>old memes
>"why would I want to fit into this message board that I have chosen to post on, you're all losers not like me"
>T'au

8/10 not bad at all

>>54583023
>Astra Militarum codex

Is it out yet? Link to a PDF?

>>54582907
Thanks. The marble was fun

>>54583056
What part of "everywhere is literally daemons" don't you understand.

>>54583076
The Guard probably isn't getting their dex until 2018.

>>54583058
Using one is fine
Using 4-5 means no one is going to play you

>>54583023
Stop with this low quality bait

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>>54582442

>>54583044

SW and BT were never "fuck you" chapters. Russ and Sigismund/Dorn were the "fuck you" Primarchs. They're just manbabbies who inherited their chapters 10,000 years later.

How are Tempestus Scions size wise compared to SM scouts?

I just want sniper rifle models with full face masks and they look pretty close

>>54583113

?

hmm. i'm considering getting the easy to build age of simar liberators for my inquisitor's custom "counts as bullgryn with mauls" battle servitors or something. any advice on how to make it work?

>>54583101
"Everywhere is daemons, so you can't recruit new guys from your own planet. You have to use our new primaris marines ($50 RRP) to fill your ranks, by us flying through all the daemons (Cus Girlyman can do that and no one else, why not), and destroying all chapter identity."

>>54583138
>manlet rage
Keep it coming, I'm drinking these tears.

When you calm down, explain how Guilliman giving Kantor the ability to make Rynn's World natives into even better marines than normal is a problem.

>>54583138

Yeah, exactly. And you're retarded for whining specifically about the Guilliman part when every part of it is equally asinine, and what you should have been whining about is the "everywhere is daemons" part which is the root cause of the whole thing to begin with. No expanding of the Eye, no endangerment of Crimson Fists future, no opportunity for Guilliman or Primaris.

But I guess you'd rather just bitch about Guilliman, huh? Fucking dumbass motherfucker.

Codex SM download where??

>>54583138

>become space marine
>kill by daemons
>made into plague zombie
>ask for free mehreens

John Stalvern waited. The lights above him blinked and sparked out of the air. There were demons in the base. He didn't see them, but had expected them, now for years. His warnings to Cernel Joson were not listenend to and now it was too late. Far too late for now, anyway.
John was aspace marinefor fourteen years. When he was young he watched the spaceships and he said to dad "I want to be on the ships, daddy."
Dad said "NO! YOU WILL BE KILL BY DEMONS!"
There was a time when he believed him. Then as he got oldered he stopped. But now in the space station base of theUAChe knew there were demons.
"This is Joson," the radio crackered. "You must fight the demons!"
So John gotted hispalsma rifleand blew up the wall.
"HE GOING TO KILL US," said the demons!
"I will shoot at him," said theCyberdemonand he fired the rocket missiles. John plasmaed at him and tried to blew him up. But then the ceiling fell and they were trapped and not able to kill.
"No! I must kill the demons," he shouted!
The radio said "No, John. You are the demons."
And then, John was a Zombie.

>>54583148
How is giving them 1,000 pre-made primaris marines the same as 1,000 marines from Rynn's world?
Spoilers: It's not.

>>54583159
Yeah, silly me, talking about what I was actually replying too.
I think new GW writing sucks, but that wasn't what was being talked about here. It was specifically Guilliman giving Crimson Fists Primaris Marines

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>>54582442

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What is your average Genestealer Cult player like?

How viable are Dark Eldar this edition? I've always loved the models and the rules look pretty good on paper

I'd like to run two units of warriors and a unit of wyches with succubus for HQ then maybe fill in remaining points with dark lance scourges or incubi, what do you think?

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>>54582442

>>54583205
You are aware that every time Guilliman gives a chapter Primaris Marines he's also giving them the tech to make their own to replace them, and to upgrade their existing marines to Primaris, right?

>>54583207
Hot, slim, tall, girl.

>>54583209
By all accounts they're pretty good, still putting mine together and haven't had a chance to play.

I'd probably trade at least one warrior unit for Trueborn with lots of guns cruising in a Venom or Raider though

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>>54583207
I fucking love how creepy and Giger-esque the purestrains look in this art piece.

Codex GSC was such a fucking good book in every way.

>>54583205
>It was specifically Guilliman giving Crimson Fists Primaris Marines

Which is in itself an example of > new GW writing sucks

HURRRRR

Is the stalker pattern bolt rifle the best weapon choice Deathwatch veterans get? If so why is there only one in the box?

>>54583225
The point is that there barely is any Crimson Fists left.
Giving them 1,000 new marines, with no connection to the chapter, just destroys all identity to it.
They have no spirit to fight to the last man to protect their homeworld like the old crimson fists, no hatred for orks, and their spanish twist is gone. They are now just a bunch of ultramarines painted a darker blue, lead by a proper Crimson Fist, but is suffering from GWs new writing to make everyone suck up to Guilliman.
It's so dull and uninteresting.

>>54583247

Nice - make sure you post your models when they're painted

I should mention I was planning on taking a raider w/ dark lance for those troop choices - do the kabalites in venom have an advantage over the scourges as a heavy weapons unit?

>>54583264

>why is there only one in the box

I'm sure you know anon

>>54583266

>mfw primaris marines are an anti immigration allegory

>>54583193
This brings me back

>>54583266
And yet that's a solid and realistic depiction of what can happen in war? That in itself isn't bad writing at all. The old ones died and needed to be replaced. It's how Kantor reacts to that which determines the quality of the writing. And the fluff bit itself mentions that "there were entire new companies of Crimson Fists that had never known Rynn's World or the Chapter's rituals", meaning it's not being pushed to the side and ignored by the writers, that tension is something actually being felt.

Is WD out yet

>>54583266
And there's absolutely no way that the veterans and leaders, and those who will make the change to Primaris will enforce those ideals and the new guys will be able to learn these traditions whatsoever, eh anon?

>>54583307
You can't teach a hatred or a national identity

>>54582487
Happy birthday mate. It's mine too :)

>>54581793

Everyone gets Raven Guard chapter tactics

Do you make feel no pain rolls for each attack/shot or for each damage the model with feel no pain has taken?

>want to start a grey knights army
>want to participate in the campaign
>locals are selling off their stuff with reasonable prices, painted and good to go
>worried about the upcoming codex and possible primaris grey knights if I buy now
Fuck me

>>54583277
>I should mention I was planning on taking a raider w/ dark lance for those troop choices - do the kabalites in venom have an advantage over the scourges as a heavy weapons unit?

Again, this is theory crafting as I haven't played yet, but you've got a couple of heavy weapon choices

Trueborn in a Venom with Blasters/Dark Lances/Splinter Cannons; expensive, but can zoom in and put an awful lot of dakka out in short range; I'm going to try 2 Blasters, 2 Splinter Cannons and 2 on the Venom; disembark when necessary and put the Venom into melee if I need too, if it survives it can still withdraw and shoot thanks to fly and I'd rather have that get punched then my fancy elves.

Scourges; Shardcarbines, Blasters and Dark Lances all have their pros and cons, I think I prefer Dark Lances on Ravagers though; I'm going to try run 10 or so with Shardcarbines. For 140 points you get a unit you can put almost anywhere you want that deals 30 shots (until they start dying) which is pretty likely to earn its points back; a 5 man squad with blasters seems like it'd be great to keep in reserve until a character or other valuable unit leaves themselves open to getting nuked.

Ravagers; pretty great effective threat range thanks to Heavy weapons counting as Assault when on a Dark Eldar vehicle, 3 Dark Lances would make an excellent tank hunter. More durable than the Scourges for a similar cost.

Oh, also, the Razorwing Jetfighter is about the same points cost as the Ravager with a similar load out, trading 1 Dark Lance or Disintegrator for the missile loadout; also a bit more survivable. So thats an option too.

>>54583320
Yeah, and that's something the Crimson Fists are going to have to deal with now in the wake of the tragedy in which they lose most of their Chapter again. That's life in wartime.

I'm not seeing how this is bad writing, in fact it's good writing, it's creating emotional conflict. It sounds like you're just mad things didn't go the way you wanted them to and you don't want to buy Primaris Marines.

>>54583320
All of that shit is learned, so yes, you can. All it takes is time and experience.

>>54583329
each damage

>>54583329
Each damage sustained.

I shoot an autocannon at your guy, hit, wound, he fails his save. The failed save causes 2 damage, you make 2 FNP rolls.

Hey, can anyone tell me what the Intercessors' Auxiliary Grenade Launcher costs? Is it free? Its points aren't on the pdf.

>>54583340
Unless you're piss poor, just buy your army and have fun now. It'll be months before we are even likely to see GK primaris. Maybe even years... Or never.

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>>54583266
>>54583320
>primaris can't learn to hate Orks

>>54583326
happy birthday
im glad i share my birthday with random anon on tg, benito mussolini, and will wheaton

>>54583354
There's a weapon in the Codex called an Astartes Grenade Launcher listed at 11 points. I don't know if they fucked up or what.

>>54583356
I'm on a budget as I'm getting married soon and arent grey knights getting the next codex?

>>54583320

This is the weirdest post I've read this morning.

You've obviously never heard of Rome before.

>Chaos vs Imperium event
>Imperium has Codex giving it massive buffs while Chaos does not

Uhh, 40ktards?

Is there a mega with recent ebooks?

>>54583340
Considering GK use a gene seed from the emperor, there is no way they can be primaris

>>54583343
If that ever gets written, then sure, it would be good
But with the current levels of Ultramarine wank, I have my doubts it will ever go past just being another Primaris Chapter

>>54583344
>>54583361
None of the primaris marines are survivors of the ork invasion.
You can tell them "Hey, orks are real bad' but it means nothing if they never experienced it.
Having people recruited from the population that have had families killed, or had been saved by the crimson fists in the invasion would be cool, and there is a real sense of hatred for orks, and a sense of awe towards the marines.

>>54583396
>there is no way they can be primaris
>"hold my beer goy, watch this"

>>54582564
I remember those days when i had so few ork boyz... *sniff*
*queue greensoaked painting nightmares*

>>54583382
Yes but like all previous editions a new codex doesn't = new models. You're old GK models will be legal at least for this edition. So you're not wasting money. Congratulations on the marriage thing.

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>>54583396
>GK use a gene seed from the emperor

>>54582232
It's completely bullshit that Baneblades don't get Grinding Advance or have a base BS4. I mean they're supposed to be manned by the most elite veterans tank crews around. I hope they fix that

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>>54583396
>GK use a gene seed from the emperor
Not exactly.

Does any kind soul have a pdf og the new book? Much appreciated if so.

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>>54583396
>GK use a gene seed from the emperor

HAHAHAHA

are there audiobooks in the mega

>>54583480
Yes

Is there a way to successfully play a Talons of the Emperor army?

>>54583456
Wait, so it was confirmed that GK use Magnus' gene seed?

>>54583490
Yes.

>>54583341

Thank you for the in depth response, Anon - I find it really handy to see how other people are going about army building

Ravager is probably a good call, althought it seems like a lot of points in a 1000 point list which is where I'll probably be at

I don't know why I keep coming back to these threads, they just end up being lore skub fights instead of talking about the actual game.

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>>54583487
Just play 30k.

>>54583490
Not explicitly, but it was confirmed that their first Supreme Grand Master was from the Thousand Sons.

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>>54583496
Did you know that space sharks are a raven guard successor? Anyone that thinks otherwise is an asshole.
;)

>>54583508
who gives af?

>>54582747
It's because the Black Templars are the litteral incarnation of the 40k setting.

What fucking cocksucker made Auric Armour Gold? It's consistency is total shit and you have to stir it every fucking time you leave it alone for a minute because it all separates out.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE