Warhammer 40.000 General /40kg/

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This thread is rather premature.

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Are they loyal?

Did the CIA create AIDs because nurgle wanted to fuck over slanesh?

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>>54574577
Yes but they think they are not

Why won't Xitans own up for empowering Chaos? Khorne's twisted martial honour and hate of sorcery totally seems to me inspired by the crusaders.

>>54574574
With what was in the old one not really.

>>54574602
Begone with thee und thine carnacisms.

>>54574574
Extreme carnac infection, exterminatus is the only answer

>>54574577
>>54574597
>Alpharius is actually bald
Fuck i thought he has some cool long hair

>>54574602
Oh ffs he's in both threads

>>54574602
Why just the Christians? Include all the other bloody religions in the pile if you're going to attack religious violence.

Also fuck off, because this is hardly a constructive discussion and you're doing a very good job of shooting the message you're trying to get across with your idiocy. Most of us atheists are NOT this autistic about it.

Are baneblades worth it at 2000 points?

>>54574659
>replying
You fool! You foolish fool!

Reminder to hide and ignore all off topic carnac shitposts

>>54574638
>>54574659
>oh fuck he keeps responding to my replies!
Christ

Do you ever miss some of the old memes
I'll admit, I do miss Boreale posting every now and again

>>54574679
2000 points seems quite expensive for a unit, even if it's a lord of war.

>>54574679
Yes, with all the sponsons it can never be charged, and with the volcano cannon you're destroying, or nearly destroying, a vehicle a turn, and doing a number on a bunch of others with the lascannons.

>>54574679
if you have a good deldar player in your meta, no.

>>54574679
No, that would be horribly overcos-

>>54574699
YOU MOTHERFUCKER.

>>54574699
I meant in 2000 point games

Baneblades with sponson and are around 550 points

This just in for btfo 7th edition waac fags

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1va1vbGqwyg

>>54574680
>>54574691
I know, I know, I realised after I hit reply.
Ph well back to the cider.

>>54574727
Had a mighty kek from this when I first saw it.

>>54574727
Quit self promoting your video, faggot

>>54574520
>Priests in 8e
Now I know you're fucking with me.

>>54574549
Except S4 dakka isn't going to take out high T targets no matter how much of it I bring (within reason). 5 meltaguns will.

And a single immolator with meltaguns inside is just asking to get popped. I want the redundancy.

>>54574661
>Why just the Christians?

I have not seen a Muslim, Buddhist, Jewish created daemons in fluff. It's always Xitans.

We have two speculated Mongolian daemon princes. If I knew there were Mongolian posters here I would have jumped on them too but alas no Mongolians.

>>54574738
>>54574727
Samefag fuck off

>>54574457
>Chaos is a virus

So, we've reduced the dark gods to modern vampires?

Also, you're forgetting one very important thing in your equation: The soul.

>>54574761
How scientific is this soul you speak of?

>>54574744
Priest are magical for Church melee units

Arco-Flagellants for example each one has 2D3 attacks. With a priest a max squad (9 models) they end having 3D3 attacks each. Meaning 27D3 attack that re-roll to hit.
Even if they are S4 AP0 D1 That is a lot of punches.

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>>54574760
i'll just leave this here.. (and this was going to be the last time i posted it.. i din't make the vid or host it.. but now i will spam it because of you

>>54574602

The idea that Khorne was born during the crusades is just fucking hilarious. The crusades killed a lot less people than basically any major "secular" war in history you could think of, except maybe the Albigensian crusade. If anything in the middle ages birthed Khorne, it would be the Mongol conquests.

Also, we didn't empower Chaos because Chaos doesn't exist.

>>54574793
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>>54574738
my fav one is the very end.. i kept all my dreads.. because i did since rogue trader

Is it hinted somewhere if humans evolved naturally or xenos influenced them / created them?

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>>54574787
If the soul is warp related then how can the wholly material C'tan extinguish souls.

>Voidreaper

>Legend has it that on the day Aza’gorod the Nightbringer was sundered into shards, this warscythe appeared in the armoury of the Nekthyst Dynasty’s crownworld. Its blade is a sliver of the void; when swung, it cuts through more than just mere physical forms. Its victims drop to the ground as husks, their souls torn from their bodies like tattered shrouds before dissipating with final screams of horror.

>>54574800
Don't reply you fool, it's carnac

>>54574800
Khorne wasn't born because of wars on Earth, wars on Earth happened because Khorne was born.

>>54574806
Heh, I missed that. That's what I get for skipping the credits.

>>54574818
40k humans are stone men, a creation of the Golden men

So humans are man made.

>>54574818
Humans are a Necrontyr experiment forgotten during the War in Heaven.

>>54574823
> it's carnac

you're getting to be more annoying than carnac, stfu.

>>54574820
>C'tan
>wholly material

That shit went out the door the moment they started eating souls and shit.

>>54574844
>telling people to not reply to shitposts is annoying
Shoo shoo shitposter

>>54574800
That's old fluff. And the crusades didn't birth Khorne. The awakening of Khorne caused the crusades and other subsequent wars (The HH series has a German WW2 solider screaming "Blood for the Blood God").

>Chaos doesn't exist.

What was the greatest trick of the devil again?

>>54574787

Ah, Science. First, I will refer you to the fact that you are discussing a fantasy setting that includes deamons. Deamons who eat souls. That's cannon. The existance of souls in the 40k universe is undeniable. Whatever your persuasion IRL, that doesn't change the fact that in universe there are souls, which demons interact with in universe, and trying to ignore that cannon is just daft.

As for Science and the Soul, people make a lot of claims about science disproving spiritual ideas which aren't actually true. Science cannot measure the soul (yet), and therefore cannot disprove the soul. Therefore science actually has nothing to say about the existance of a soul other than the fact that they are unable to observe them at this time. Which you would know if you actually understood scientific procedure and didn't just scream science like it was a catch all phrase for things you disagree with.

>>54574844
He's not wrong, faggot. Why do you people keep replying to fucking Carnac.

>>54574856
>shitposting to prevent shitposting

you've gone full retard

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Damn it, not again.

>>54574865
Maybe it's their first Carnac experience and they want to interact, like the way first time zoo goers always feed the fucking monkeys and get shit thrown back at them?

>>54574844
Are you seriously encouraging people to resond to known shitposters? Fuck off you moron

>>54574865
because no one gives a fuck about your autism.

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DID YOU KNOW?

The backpacks worn by Space Marines were originally meant to be jet packs – there’s even a piece of artwork in the 1988 Warhammer 40,000 supplement Chapter Approved that showed them using them. The round nozzles on either side of the backpack are now categorised as stabiliser jets for use in zero gravity.

>>54574880
In record time this thread as well.

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>>54574852
The World Engine novel says that the C'tan powers are not Warp related. They are akin to natural forces like gravity and whatever. Also that the Warp doesn't notice the C'tan or just barely does.

The Nightbringer shards are known to cast a great psychic emptiness around it. Picture related

>>54574880
You'd think people would learn.
Must be newfags

>>54574887
It's fucking carnac ffs!

>>54574868
He politely reminded someone not to respond to bait, which is constructive, ergo the opposite of shitposting, and now you're shitposting and sperging out about it.

I was so disappointed to come into this thread and see four fucking replies to Carnac's immediate obvious bait. Just ignore it and talk about 40k you dumb cunts, and by that I mean the game which Carnac doesn't even fucking play, not the autistic black library fanfiction he jacks off to.

Who here has played a game in the Konor campaign so far?

>>54574913
No, it's not. I am Carnac.

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>>54574887
>not wanting shitposting is autism

>>54574889
Pls to provide more tid bits of info.

>>54574887
>not responding to the resident autists autistic bait is autism
I don't have enough wew in my lungs for this.

>>54574913
>>54574917

you fags are just shit posting and riding carnac's dick

>>54574931
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/10/27/power-armour-through-the-ages/

>>54574861
>has nothing to say about the existance of a soul
Not the anon you were arguing with, but we can make a few observations. If the soul isn't physical, why can brain damage change the emotional responses and memories of a person?

>>54574934
I'm done, fuck it, you were warned.

>>54574761
The soul is simply encrypted data that can't be decrypted until the key is released. The key is released when the computer is shut down. Once the system shuts down the data file and the key are broadcast.

The Eldar like to hijack the data broadcast using flash drives that wirelessly intercept the data and store it. They then upload the data drive to a large one-way server of their own design which also encrypts the data. If the server is destroyed the data is streamed back into the net. The Eldar used these soul servers to create their own data cluster, except some of their soul data had to be uploaded into the server so the data cluster could turn them into BIOS for the OS. The data cluster is still pretty buggy.

is name dropping carnac the new shitsers of basshole?

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>>54574923

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>>54574889
>now
fun fact; the chaos space marine backpacks were originally "flight packs", more akin to what we know as jump packs now

Through RT and 2e you can see a second pair of stabilizing nozzles tucked into the "arms" of the backpack. I believe the new rubric marines also have them.

>>54574953
<3

>>54574960
>nothing personnel...kid...

>>54574923
>>54574913
>Carnac. That's the only name you'll hear. Carnac. It means the end and the death of threads. Carnac. I am Carnac. Carnac is all around you. Carnac is the poster above you. Carnac is the poster below you. Carnac will gnaw on /tg/'s bones. Look out! Carnac is here.

>>54574969
No, responding to carnac is the original shitsters of basshole.

Fucking newfags.

>>54574955
What does it have to do with anything? The soul and the brain are separate. They are linked together but the soul is just a copy of your mind in the Warp.

You can exist and live without a soul. See Necrons and Pariahs who are unable, because of biological and arcane reasons, to project their thought process into the Warp.

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>>54574980

>>54574969
No you fucking newfag

>>54574889
SO I WASNT RETARDED, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE FUCKING JETPACKS

>>54574990
youre only making it worse by autisticly bringing up his name, you arent gonna make him stop by doing so.

kys

>>54574990

Dammit don't encourage that idiot and his retarded attempted forced meme.

>>54574917
Waiting for my local Gw to re open from their refurb then I plan on taking my troupe out. Haven't decided who for or against atm

>>54574908
I never said their powers are psychic or that they have a warp presence. But the moment they start eating souls and hanging out in the warp, the place that was suppose to be poison to them (hence the blackstone fortresses, etc.), then that whole concept goes out the window and can't be used anymore.

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>>54574990

wutang clan go home

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75 posts in and you fags already ruined another thread by immediately taking the bait. When will /tg/ learn?

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>>54574960
>you were warned.

LOL this kid,

>>54575021
Fuck off newfag, lurk moar or GTFO

>>54574995
Only for you my sweet

>>54575022
stop being autistic

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>>54574976
>ammunition clip

Anyone else really starting to like aggressors?

They basically do what I wish shooty terminators could do

>>54575022

Oh I know it's bait. I honestly just have fun watching his mental acrobatics and laughing at him as he shitposts.

>>54575022
Holy shit that was from the original esdese thread wasn't it

RIP Cheetah anon, I think he suffocated laughing that day.

>>54575041
>brits

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*sweats*

>>54575043
I think they're great, just a bit bummed they don't have anything heavy to shoot.

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>>54575034
Back, Daemon, back.

>>54575046
You are enabling him then.

>>54575043
Have you played any games with them yet? Tell us how it went.

Raptors or Warp-Talons

If Raptors which weapons should I go for?

>>54575054
>power armor
>doesn't protect the head, one of the most vulnerable parts of the body
But why tho?

>>54575043
Hell yeah, they're my favorite new unit right now and I don't even play Space Marines.

>>54575075
rule of cool

>>54575084
And the best rule it is.

>>54575072
Both if w/ warptime jump sorc, plasma w/ jump lord, melta if alone

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>>54575075

>>54575084
not wearing helmets is not rule of cool, it's just retarded. Why the fuck would you even need power armor in a goddamn ball room?

>>54575066

Ah, but he never replied to me. He's either stumped or gone. I feel success.

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>>54575075
I dare you to count the helmeted characters in 40K with two hand.

>>54575072
Warp talons. They look cooler.

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>>54575060
A deamon madam? I?

>>54575101
To make sure you don't goof the deep lunge

>>54575106
or you're carnac, we'll never know.

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>>54575101
Why would you need power armour in the Imperial senate?

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>>54575114
Leave, Xenos.

I am Carnac

>>54575122
If he is Carnac then who am I?

>>54575067

I popped them out of my repulsor 3", moved 5", advanced another 3" and then unloaded 30 bolter shots and 5D6 grenade shots into some orks

Shit was intense.

Releasing them now, the flamer fists seem absurdly good overwatch speed bumps

>>54575124
>he doesn't know how violent the imperial senate can get
Have fun dying when master of the assasins tries to do beheading 2.0

>>54575138
alpharius?

>>54575109
>pedro kantor
>vulkan he'stan
>kayvaan shrike
>dante
>asmodai
>ahriman
>typhus
That's seven, so more than you can count on one hand.

>>54575122

if i was would i be defaming myself by proudly proclaiming that i beat myself in an argument on the internet and shut myself up?

>>54575109
guilliman, sicarius, azrael, dante, ulfrik, draigo, kantor, he'stan

probably more but that's just the space marines off the top of my head

>>54575109
Macharius, Vulkan, Ulrik, Chronus, Draigo, Crowe, Magnus, Cato, almost every Eldar one...

>>54575149
we're all anonymous, anon. we can't keep track of everyones autism.

>>54574818
The pariah gene comes from the night ringer trying to infect humans against the warp, after the emperor was born >>54574857
It was ww1 because shovel in trench war >>54574889
They were, but become power packs where you expel excess heat and CO2, the anvillus backpack is favoured by chaos marines as it allows them to manoeuvre in void combat more easily

>>54575109
Vulkan he'stan
Shrike
Cato as a option on sprue
Emperors champion
Grimaldus
Pedro kantor
Farsight
Shadow sun on sprue
Drazar
Typhus
Ahriman
Kharn
Guilliman on sprue
Crowe
Draigo on sprue.
Probably more that's more than I have fingers anyway

>>54575143
And that's why you need power armour at a ball.

>>54575109
Easy: Every Necron character... technically.

>>54575109
To add to this guy
>>54575146
>guillman
>sevrin loth
>moloc
>tyberos the red wake
>the astral claws techmarine
That's 12. Unless you're a six fingered man, then you can't count them with 2 hands, let alone 1.

>captcha: only die
What the hell google?

How did the foolish Chaos-deniers skulking in this general feel when Games Workshop confirmed Be'lakor's primacy among the Princes of Chaos and his great role in the End Times to come?

>>54575199

wut?

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>>54575128
You words offend mine madam.
I sought only to show
Affection.

>>54575199
>chaos
>a threat
Gee, they sure are doing well in konor. Oh wait...

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>>54575199
Feels so good that Dark Master is getting his due.

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>>54575208
BAD TOUCH

>>54575199
ROCKS>Belakor

>>54574983
Samus was the best thing on the whole Horus heresy series and his return on KNOW NO FEAR was the GOAT to ever happen, it's nice Abnett and McNeil write so much
>>54575041
with a magazine of 10 rounds LOAD

>>54575221
Konor is filler. What happens there won't stop Maccrage invasion round 2.

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>>54575199
A FUCKING ROCK

>>54575231

Samus was great, It also fills me with the desire to declair that clearly Samus Aran is not a lost primach since the books clearly show that she has ascended to deamonhood.

>>54575231
>with a magazine of 10 rounds LOAD
30 magazine clip in half a heresy

>>54575250
Clearly this means that one of the missing primarchs was supposed to be the master of TUBES, just as dorn was the master of sieges

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>>54575224

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>>54575285
I did it. I saved the Imperium~

>>54575241
>>54575228
>Be'lakor gets confirmed final boss of WHTW
>The Archaon's flavor text already says that Be'lakor is a formless shadow with no shape
>Be'lakor cannot be hurt in melee or range, can only be damaged by spells. To port his ability to control the timeline, he has a special ability to reset turns

I am HYPED!

>>54574574

She's a cutie

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Tonight on Konor News!

We're 36 hours in and momentum may be shifting towards Chaos.

Yes, Chaos continue to exploit Xenos attacks across the planet. Truly they are a weak force if they need the crutch of foul Xenos to hurt our brave fighters!

It is looking increasingly likely that Chaos may gain control of Praxima Skyport as reports of Chaos victories mount. The loyal defenders of the Imperium are holding but momentum may be shifting, only time will tell!

Chaos have made gains throughout, with heavy assaults reported across every warzone, though Imperial lines are holding.

At the Quintus gate and Hive Hallentia we can confirm some outbreak of disease and sporadic cases of the walking dead. Imperial medicae have the situation contained. But remember, the walking dead can be killed by removing the head or destroying the brain.

That was your 36 hour update. Goodbye, and good luck. Go kill some Traitors.

How do you generally feel about completely homebrewed units? Assuming the points seemed reasonable, would you play against someone who made up all the stats for their army?

>>54575299
Cowtits are never cute.

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>>54575296
Yeah now that that xenos faggot is gone we can twlk abpit how to best worship PaPa N--I mean, our Father the Emperor.

>>54575316
STOP WITH THE FAKE NEWS. YOU WERE WARNED!

>>54574999
Trips of truth. They DO look like jetpacks.
The Emperor blessed you with vision

>>54575316
Thanks newsbro. Look forward to hereing the reports from tomorrow after the landing of C:SM

>>54575336
IT IS GOOD 3/4 REPLIES WERE POSITIVE
STRAWPOLL IF YOU ARE A FAGGOT THEN

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>>54575336
You can't stop the signal, baby!

>>54575318
In a fluffy game I'd look over it, and if it seems balanced I'd say sure.
In a competitive game? Not a chance in the world

>>54575336

what're you gonna do? type angrily at him?

>>54575318
Yes, but that assumption is a BIG one. Most people overpower and/or undercost their homebrew stuff.

>>54574789
Against T7 Sv3+:
54 Attacks
48 Hits
32 Wounds
11 Unsaved
11 Damage

For 270 points including the Rhino

5 Meltaguns at BS3+ with AoF for doubled shooting:
10 attacks
7 hits
4 Wounds
4 Unsaved
18 Damage

For 227 points including the Repressor

Almost double the number of scored wounds per point (25 vs 13).

>>54575318
I dont trust a single Person to be good enough at the game to make up stats for Custom Units Not GW not a Tournament Winner and especially not some random guy.

But, you can always see a Model as a Weapons Platform, relate how the Weapons Cost and the toughness/accuracy of the Platform. But with special rules and who gets to pick which weapons it gets way to complicated.

What I've seen done was have HQ units get different Weapons or Special rules for Campaign purposes which usually is pretty nice

>>54575358
That was plan A.

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What are some good units that benefit from being imperial fists? Chapter tactics encourage anything with an ap value, yeah?

What does the new bolter drill stratagem do? I couldn't read it in the leak.

>>54575318

The only time i've ever seen it it drove me nuts.

>>54575394
Field lots of thunder fire cannons and Whirlwinds

>>54575373
What are you comparing there?

>>54574540
Thoughts on the following for 500 points
Chaos lord: power axe, plasma pistol
Khorne berserkers: 9 guys, 9 chainaxes, 2 plasma pistols, rhino
Helbrute: standard fist and melta
What other bases should I cover

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>>54575316
Where is the sports report??

>>54575381
This, campaign boosting as FW suggests in HH:1 is the only acceptable stuff, unless you've known this group for like 5 years and helped play test it

>>54575411
9 Arco-Flagellants with a Priest vs. 5 Dominions with Meltas.

>>54575394
>Bolter Drill (1 CP): When an Imperial Fists Infantry unit shoots, any 6+ to hit with a bolt weapon (anything with 'bolt' in the name, and Kantor's gun) lets you roll an additional attack with the same weapon against the same target.

Has anyone used that blue thermoplastic stuff to try and recast weapons and shit? I want to recast a bunch of plasma and melts guns.

>>54574789
arcos are s5 bro.

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Has anyone with the new codex shared pics of primaris successors or new codex astartes organization? I'm very curious.

>>54575318
Only homebrew primarch/chapter masters.
So far I was the only one to do that in a game so that's pretty ironic.

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Anyone else disappointed with Gabriel's rules?

>>54575447
That picture, why anon?

>>54575438

I have literally just been recasting plasma guns with blue stuff yesterday. They aren't perfect, I think i'll need a new mold and go again, but I can show you some pictures in an hour or so if you'd like.

>>54575460
Yeah 0 points for Godsplitter, so god damn rude of them

>>54575434
>meltaguns are better at killing T7 than arcos

No shit. Try that comparison with repentia instead.

>>54575434
But that doesn't make sense
Why would you send Arco-Fags vs a T7 3+ Or for that matter send meltas against 50 T3 5+

The Rhino works for melee, while the Repressor works for shooting. They are two different units with differents jobs.

>>54575440
Not him (I'm the one with the Dominions doing the math) but the index says S4 (Page 93).

>>54575467
Yes please anon, would be keen to see.

>>54575394
each to hit of 6 with a bolt weapon (literally defined as anything with bolt in the name) generates another attack with said weapon (these new attacks can't generate further attacks)
if SM have an easy way of getting +1 to hit this could be quite potent

>>54575325

But blushing happiness is always cute

>Xitans

Never ever interact with anyone who says this.

>>54575473
>>54575474
That's literally my point.

>>54575460
Great horde clearing capabilites. Good chance of a few mortal wounds on death. Not got any movement restrictions. Has both sorts of grenades on termie armour for free
Yeah disappointing.

>>54575325
>t. pedo

>>54575498
But why? It makes no sense to compare those two.

At least I don't know Exorcist, MM Ret and Melta Dominions or Repentias. Not Arco.

>>54575100
See? Helmets. They know whats up.

>>54575409
I don't think one or both of those benefit from chapter tactics?
>>54575435
Neat - I am gonna make SO much dakka.
This seems rad for heavy bolter squads, bolter centurions, gun terminators, and aggressors.

>>54575482
s4 with an extra +1 from their weapon.

>>54575498
I could have told you that without the math.

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>>54575325

>>54575496
Okay......? That was random.

>>54575460
dissapointed in the sense that it's nothing that really stands out
i feel like it could be any bozo with termie armor and a power hammer , also very strange that he doesn't have a reroll aura like a normal SM

Are Necrons fun this edition? Or are they 'reanimiate and rapid fire' and that's it?

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>>54575482
Read it again, I originally said 4 instead of 5 by accident.

>>54575541
Literally like the first few posts in the thread.

>>54575544
>also very strange that he doesn't have a reroll aura like a normal SM
Yes he does?
>Chapter Master: You can re-roll failed hit rolls for friendly Blood Raven units within 6" of Gabirel Angelos

>>54575549
Depends on if you like being the slowest army in the game.

>>54575576
>not playing because DoW:DK was the GOAT warhammer game

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>>54575419
Hi, Chet Jocksford here with the sports!

Today's scheduled game of Scrumball between the Underhive Trogs and the Upper Hive Toffs was delayed today due to blood rain on the pitch.

In better news a visiting team, the Eye of Terror Phlegm Throwers, lost 12 to 1 to our local team the Imperial Eagles in a game of "Catch the Meltabomb".

All other games are cancelled, because the remaining pitches have been designated medevac or landing zones.

>>54575488
Nothing springs to mind, but a captain directing a bolter drill of two units of heavy bolter and hurricane bolter centurions seems incredible.

Too bad they still look retarded. Aggressors here I come.

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Even with a Priest for the additional attack. They do not seem worth it.

>>54575592
GOAT?

>>54575639
It's tardspeak.

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>>54575419
And now Derek, with Sports!

Thanks Tom. The Konor Planetary Footskull League kicked off with a bang as the Western Bloods, a team nearly relegated last season, scored a decisive 3-0 victory over champions KILLMAIMBURN FC. Gorechild Rangers drew against Bloodletter Rovers in a disappointing goalless game. In both matches only 3 players were confirmed dead in the after-game brawl.

>>54574625
>hur dur burgers are on gotta blame shitposting on americans

>>54575638
They would very worth it if they didn't die so easily. Being able to put dreads in a unit of 3 is a big deal.

>>54575638
Doesn't seem bad however.

>>54575638
Kek you must be fucking joking. Do the maths nigger. Even without the priest they are one of the scariest melee units in the fucking game.

>>54575649
For?

>>54575556
The fuck is a xitan?

Canon no more matters to 40k than it does in capeshit. Superhero settings are long running collaborative universes full of self contradictory bullshit by dozens of writers that piles up until the very idea of a unifying canon becomes ludicrous.

And gets what else is a pulpy bullshit setting with dozens of writers working for decades on it resulting in a self-contradictory mess? 40k.

Screw anyone who tries to argue what canon is at this point, even the IP owners. Like what you like, ignore the rest.

>>54575664
I'm not sure how you got that from what I said but thank you for reply anon.

>>54575654
>>54575605
>>54575316
Konor news is best news.

With Tyranid Warriors is there any reason not to go MSU to get wider synapse coverage?

like say runing 3 units of 3 instead of 1 unit of 9.

>>54575687

My best guess is Goat Of All Time.

>Rhino
>Cannoness, eviscerator, inferno pistol
>Priest, eviscerator, inferno pistol
>mistress of repentance
>7x repentia (understrength by 2)

Seems scary as fuck, any thoughts?

>>54575460
I like them. He's got amazing horde clearing potential, a thunder hammer that can do mortal wounds, good movement and he'll screw over who ever kills him by doing d3 mortal wounds

>>54575678
They can't seem to get into melee, for 129 points each.

Not as hard nor shooty as a dread.

>>54575703
Setting's owners > based Laurie Goulding > ADB > you

>>54575712
Yeah, it's called Warriors aren't worth running when you could use Malanthropes instead.

>>54575713
But that as an anagram just raises more questions and goes full circle to the original question of what does the goat mean?

>>54575736
>goldstien
>based

>>54575316
Keep doing the Emperor's work Anonymous Newscaster!
See you in 12!

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>>54575486

Forgive the shitty photos, best I can do. Haven't cleaned flash yet, but here is the front, and I'll post the back in a second. Like I said, not the best mould, I'll probably need to do another, but you can get very good pieces with blue stuff.

>>54575722
The whole point is you fucking run them as fast as you can, blow acts of faith and cp to advance and eat whatever overwatch you have to get them in there. Generally run them in with Celestine since she is fast as fuck and guaranteed act of faith plus inv save.

But yeah they are squishy.

>>54575749
Wow that looks great. Is there a way to minimise the flashing? Maybe press them down on a really flat surface?

>>54575736

According to your headcanon, sure.

Seriously, did you not go through a comic book phase as a teenager? It teaches you very quickly that in a long running collaborative setting, the creators conflicting headcanons eventually stop meaning any more than anyone else's.

>>54575703
Exactly. Fuck established lore — Batman should kill criminals and enjoy doing it.

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>>54575749

And the back

>>54575755
>AoF
>PE
Anon PE do not have AoF, and no no one can give them AoF thanks to FAQ.

Back in 7th you could give them some cover with a transport screen, but in 8th... Well keeping this derpy model in cover is harder than it looks.

>>54575785
Ah fuck that's gay. Pretty stupid given that it's mostly disgraced sisters strapped into them right?

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>>54575740

Goat of all time.

>>54575780
>giving a shit about a bad mary sue
wew familia

>>54575774

Best way to minimize flash is to be careful about filling the moulds actually. If you fill it just right you don't get any. Overfill and you get that. Underfill and your parts fall in half or have gaps.

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Where my Xenos/Chaos Bros at?!

>>54575805
Yes and no.
PE are mostly church people, sometimes Sisters. Usually sisters go Repentia

Oh by the way Crusaders have AoF. Why? who knows? GW sure as hell doesn't know.

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>>54575780

>Batman should kill criminals and enjoy doing it.

Ah, an earliest 1940's appearances purist I see.

>>54575811
>the point
>your head

So are penitant engines not good then? Not either of the guys in that discussion, but I figured they were fast and cheap enough and had enough wounds to be worth it. Did I miscalculate?

>>54575075
more slutfactor

>>54575837
They are awesome IF they reach melee. That is the big IF.
Since that 4+ really dicks them over harder than it seem.

>>54575830

Is... Is that batman catching criminals by the neck with a noose hanging from the batplane?

>>54574602
(You)

Also the crusades- up until Dandolo ruined it- were a very civilized affair. Barring the people's crusade (which only attacked Jews/orthodox, so muzzies can bugger off, AND the church stopped them), the church kept things really tidy and just was their to help out the Byzantines and help relations with the orthodox, while also retaking the Levant, which THE MUSLIMS ATTACKED FIRST.

The crusades were not only not bad, they were a totally justified and a noble attempt to fight off Seljuk Turks and insodoing defend Europe. Too bad it's all gone to crap now

So no, Moorish slaughter, the Mongol """""""empire""""""", and even largely unremembered new world genocides were a bigger deal during the medieval period.

Europe was really just writing philosophy and making funny-looking art, the so-called dark ages were more peaceful and tolerant than almost any era in history (unsurprising since there's no reason to hate/fear when there's no big war, disease, or famine going on)

>>54575467
>I have literally just been recasting plasma guns with blue stuff yesterday. They aren't perfect, I think i'll need a new mold and go again, but I can show you some pictures in an hour or so if you'd like.
pls guide how to do this!

>>54575810
I give up, I'm not too drunk to admit I just don't get it.
Peace and love anons <3

>>54575873

Sure, sure. Just a mo, did it in wip a while back, guess I can do it again here.

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>>54575863

Yes.

>>54574889
I always thought it was jet-packs before someone sad "its battery for armor" in 2012

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Is this worth it? Looks cool as shit, just use it as a normal venerable Dread.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Forgeworld-Warhammer-40k-Chaplain-Dreadnought-Dark-Angels-painted-/162600176611?hash=item25dbb9cbe3:g:eM0AAOSwjJRZcpNx

>>54575924
>paying £60 for that piece of shit
you're retarded. Buy it fresh and paint it yourself.

>>54575919
it's both

see >>54574976

Im gold necron guy Still having trouble figuring out what to substitute the gold with on the silver necrons with, Since im using gold for the skeletons I dont think I should use gold again on the accents and headpieces

Any thoughts? I feel like either going with purple to match my gauss or doing the black vehicle armor with purple edge hilighting . would silver look that bad

>>54575778
What the fuck? Headcanon? You don't get to decide how the setting work. You dissatisfaction doesn't give you the magical power to do that.

>>54575976
Purple and gold is swagg as fuuuck.

When did kids start using terms like headcanon?
What's this hyper individualist "fandom" wank?

How the hell do I make reivers good?

>>54575868
Look anon. I watched the videos about the First Crusade. It was anyone but tidy. Quit your whitewashing of history.

>>54575924
No don't do it anon

>>54576015
Explain how you think they aren't first.

>>54575718
Just run 6, you'll have an extra space for an Acolyte, character or Inquisitor.

Repentias are rather shit. That 7+/6++ is really shit

>>54576012
Headcanon has been around for years, but it's only somewhat recently where it's been used in 40k circles.

>>54576001
Dont I know it but I need a third color that will work with primary gold and secondary purple

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>>54575549
i find the fact that my opponent has to kill my main blob of dudes 3 times over to be the pinnacle of fun.
>but that might just be me.

>>54576067
They hit hard though. And 8th seems to be all about overwhelming them on the charge.

>>54576085
white maybe

can you use other paints for the models instead of the GW ones? if yes, what paints do you use? Really curious about this, I am ready to get models but the price for painting is really biting me

>>54576012
When GW decided to keep the lore vague and full of inconsistencies.

>>54575967
>>54576041
Heading to Warhammer World on Tuesday anyway, just thought this could save me painting it, although I'd still need to buy the arms anyway as I dont have any.

I do think I could do a better job of painting it though.

>>54576048
Taking them with combat blades seems a waist. Baring command points/BT tactics theres no way to make the deep strike charge go above 50%. Giving them carbines just makes them feel like less effective intercessors. They just don't seem to have a place in Raven Guard even though they are tgen new stealth troop.

>>54576138
I'm going to WW tomorrow. Want me to pick you one up? In exchange you have to let me suck you off.

>>54576158
Deal

>>54576110
I use GW only for now but i saw shitton of /wip/ people use vallejo and army painter.

>>54576104
They are kind of worth it in PL games, when playing with points, get any other melee unit.
They are way too expensive for what they do.

Hell you can do the almost the same by sheer volume of dice with Arco. A-F have S5,
W2, A2D3 and Sv5++ for less than a Repentia

is building a 2k list around a fully loaded caestus ram and two repulsor tanks overly cheesy? I think it would look really cool on the table.

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>>54575549
>>54575576
>>54576096

This is now the 3rd thread I've told people: Tesla Immortals. Leave the Warriors alone.
Front-man Praetorians with sword and pistol, Heavy Destroyers, and a CCB make a solid base. Crypteks are essential!

>>54576178
Ah, alright, I will have a look. Thank you!

Just ordered the cheap 8th edition starter box. Will my Nurgle daemons (plague bearers, heralds, beasts and drones) be usable/legal in the same army as the plague marines etc that come in the box? Thanks.

>>54576209
a single big warrior blob with all the buffs is pretty tasty, though

>>54576166
Sweet. Look for a red Audi RS5, 66 plate, near the front entrance on Tuesday. I'll put my phone number under the driver's wheel arch with some bluetac. You'll probably have to fish around. It'll be a disposable flip phone so if you try to prank me it isn't gonna work.

>>54575460
Only a handful of the FW characters, like Lias, are actually crazy. Most of them are like Gabriel here with one or two minor rules or unique weapons.

>>54576166
>>54576158
That wasn't me, pls no homo!

But I play Dark Angels really

>>54576213
Yes. They both have the Chaos keyword.

>>54576152
Your right but where they shine is on support with stuff you REALLY want to make combat with their grenades, the vanes and grapple guns are just for how you need them to deploy with said other unit. They can also work good for helping baby sit sniper scouts or other back field units which can't use chapter tactics.

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>>54575909
>>54575873

Ok, so recasting with blue stuff. It's really really simple actually.

As you can see I have a frame made out of legos that I use when casting molds. As you can also see the mold in the picture wasn't made in the frame. I've been experimenting with not using the frame and the results have actually been quite promising, I think it may actually work better for some bits, but i digress back to the point.

So to make a mold with blue stuff heat it up with boiling water until it becomes soft and workable, at which point you lay it down on a flat surface or inside your frame and then push the piece you wish to copy into it. Push the piece about halfway in, too far or not far enough causes problems later on.

Once it's been pushed in take another bit of blue stuff, heat it up until nice and soft, and then press it down on top of the other piece. If using a frame make a press to push down on it, if not just use your fingers and palm. press it good and snug. Let it cool. When both pieces are cold peel it apart. Remove plastic piece. You now have a mold.

I fill mine with a mix of green stuff and milliput. As you can see it makes very good copies. Clean a little flash and once you've painted them you can't really tell the difference, if there is one none of my opponents or the local shop owners have noticed.


Some things are harder than otheres. If you see the little blue blob up above the recast of the mini and the little green bit sitting with it, that's my mold of the respirator from greyfax, which i'm copying for all of my sisters. A two part press mold was puting the mold line so to speak right along the area i needed crisp and clean so i ended up pushing the part into just one side of blue stuff from the top down. Works like a charm, get perfect respirators now. I can show you some results if you'd like to get more of a feel for how recast bits look.

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>>54576209
10 man Tesla is super shooty, but the enemy seldom has any problems downing it in a single round.

I might be wrong here; but putting a wall of warriors in front of the immortals give them cover right?
>Assuming we leave little gaps in the warrior wall that the immortals can shoot through.

Why the fuck can't Deldar put any HQ on a reaver or a skateboard?

I enjoy watching Xenos players whine about being NPC armies.

Konor has them really stirred up.

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So the progenoid gland is an adorwubble wickle squid. Who knew.

Oh yeah, preorders up on NZ site.

>>54574577
No.

>>54576285
And its not even in the ball sack like we all thought.

>>54576283
Whoa whoa whoa whoa WHOA. You can't say things like that, that idea sounds dangerously close to being fun.

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>filing models
>dry skin on foot catches carpet
>decide to file my foot crust
FEELS
SO
GOOD

>>54576285
Do we know if this dude comes with a helmet option?

I fucking hate painting faces and flesh.

Also you'd think that the fucking medic would be the one guy who knows the importance of a helmet.

>>54576285
Why the fuck is an Apothercary who has just recently extracted a progenoid gland, so fucking clean

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Also, this, even though a kind anon leaked the SM codex points a couple of threads ago.

>>54576309
just don't snort the dust, that way lies madness

>>54576285
Wonder what organ that is.

It's interesting that he has a whole host of instruments and devices on him, where as a regular apothecary has most of his equipment on one arm.

>>54576222
Not as good as shooting 20 times and hitting 30 times (or 20 times if you advanced) all at S5. AP is nice, but you can mitigate the necessity with volume, especially if you are competing for just 1 AP.

>>54576266
I have not had any problems pulling them back to 10 with the cryptek. Only time I lost a unit in the 3 tourneys (9 games) I've played so far was because a guy dedicated his whole turn to it for an objective.

Put your Praetorians in front instead. Then you can field good shooters instead of sub-par... within army. You can shoot through everything but terrain, and Cover doesn't work like that. You only do it for rules like "only at closest unit"

Anyone have all the Space Marine Stratagems scanned?

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Are there any in the Black Legion who still follow a Luna Wolves / Sons of Horus vibe theme? I want to find a way to play Luna Wolves, but making them loyalists would be a big meme, so then I got to thinking about some warband going back to its roots.

Basically I think Abbadon is kind of gay and I prefer Luna Wolves theme to the wolf wolf wolfy wolf also i love runes and vikings Space Wolf faggots.

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Am I the only one who has sympathy for the Thousand Sons? After Magnus finally got off his ass and went to assault Terra, which the story itself felt like it was written by a fucking 10-year-old in its "descriptive" detail, shows that even the Crimson King aspect of him still cares deeply for his sons and isn't a gibbering tard like most Chaos forces, again, the poorly written (IMO) ending has Magnus and his forces lost within the depths of the webway Saturday morning cartoon style, which is where Ahriman is which could be interesting.. Nevertheless, I think that if given the power they would tell Tzeentch to fuck right off and reform Prospero as opposed to destroying the Imperium.

On another note trying to balance the difference in power between Rawbutt Scubman and Magnus through "MUH WARPFIRE" and "MUH IMPERIAL REINFORCEMENTS" is really shitty writing, having Magnus flail spells at the Sisters of Silence in retarded rage over and over wondering why it's not working despite having endured the same shit with THE FALL OF PROSPERO. Is again, fucking stupid.

tl;dr: Girlyman "Thrusting his sword angerly" does not equate to good writing.

>>54576326
Why is a hellblaster body 2 points cheaper than an intercessor one?

>>54576017
Well fuck no it wasn't well organized, it was a bunch of Warbands from across Europe going at the Pope's decree.

But it wasn't like Carnac or whoever was making or out with murder left and right, that whole 'streets ran red' account was flat-out fake- first crusade was well done and unlike lots of conquests steered clear of civilian populations until they had conquered the area, which was really progressive for the times- it surprised the Turks and Byzantines a lot since that was a go-to thing for them.

But it was largely a traditional reconquest, but due to heavy clergy presence (physical or by reputation) and Byzantine suspicion the royals (who led the crusade) kept the soldiers in line quite well.

And though desu it was actually (fairly) well organized considering the times, once people's crusade pissed off and all died it was (fairly) planned out.


I don't know what you watched, but to give a quick history lesson, the bad shit you hear is actually from an event called the People's Crusade, wherein a man called Peter the Hermit inspired a bunch of commoners to """""go to war""""" after they heard the Byzantine cry for aid.

He was just an antisemite and took the opportunity to move in the general direction of the Middle East while murdering random europenan Jews and looting European/Byzantine cities

This ended when the proper crusades came in and, horrified, drove off and killed the people's crusades. When people refer to crusades being bad this is usually what they reference, so you may wanna read up. The crusades were surprisingly dedicated to being just, it's rather shocking. The more you know I guess

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you guys got a sec?
I need a 25 power list for saturday and this is what I'm thinking. Haven't played necrons before really so I need some guidance.

1x lord
10x warriors
5x immortals
3x destroyers

I also have 10 more warriors, 10 destroyers and 3 wraiths (NOT canoptek so they might not let me proxy that) painted and ready.

I'm still new go easy on me

>>54576326
While I didn't expect the wolves to be able to take the apoth, they better fix that on the site quick.

And what the hell is the reasoning that wolves and blangels sergeants can't take power swords?

>>54576369
probably because they don't get free wargear

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>>54576326
>Intercessor Sergeants from the Space Wolves Chapters cannot take a power sword as an option, but can instead take a chainsword.
>Primaris Apothecaries cannot be from the Space WolvesChapter.

is it better to get minitures from ebay?

>>54576369
To offset the cost of their weapons.

How many Repulsors are feasible in a 2000 point list and still leave enough room in your list for all your dudes?

>>54576326
>Intercessor Sergeants from the Blood Angels and Space Wolves Chapters cannot take a power sword as an option

Why the fuck not?

>>54576348
Just do their scheme in heretical armour senpai, there are always some that dont follow the rest. It's perfectly fine my dude
>>54576356
Open your eyes friend, plenty of tsons lovers here.
Avenge Prospero, one space puppey at time.
Yip in hell.

>>54576240

Right on. With the starter box and my 60 plague bearers, 6 drones and like 12 beasts that's gotta be well over 2000pts (or whatever they call a standard sized game now), yeah?

>>54576393
Well why not make the bolt rifles 2 points then? Isn't that the whole point of the "does not include wargear" part of the points table.

>>54576396
Classic Space Yiffs attitude.

>>54576400
Only if you can't get them at your FLGS.
Seriously, support your local businesses when you can.

>>54576306
>>54576283
This would behoove me greatly make it happen hidden GW operatives of the thread!

>>54576414
Can't hold a sword if you're a furry.

>>54576326
GET FUCKED YIFFERS

>>54576396
Why on earth would you expect yiffs to get apothecaries?

>>54576348
>Are there any in the Black Legion who still follow a Luna Wolves / Sons of Horus vibe theme?

No, there are renegades who will, but the Black Legion basically exists to expunge the shame of the Sons of Horus.

>>54576426
gw doesn't seem to take their own system seriously
look at the 2 maradauder variants from fw, the exact same statlines but 1 is 100 points cheaper, presumably because it can take like 350 points worth of weapons

>>54576414
Less bloody.

>>54576442
I don't care about them, but why not power sword on Blood Angels?

>>54576426
The whole system is designed to encourage the use of power points.

>>54576452
Would you rather see chapter specific Primaris kits on top of all the chapter specific regular Marine kits?

>>54576384
Unfortunately from what you have you are full up. Not a lot of flexibility.

Drop the Lord for a Cryptek, if they let you proxy. That's the only advice I can give you.
Next time, play with points instead of PL. It is unbalanced across faction lines and you don't have the options to abuse it like other factions.

Good luck.

>>54576431
hm alright I will take a look

>>54576489
>doubt
Playing with both systems. PL just seems random.

>>54576283
No model. GW did that to them back in the 7th Ed. Codex.

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>>54576348
Just open the BL supp and read this.

>>54576309
Eww

>>54575977

That's the beauty of it: Nobody gets to decide how the setting works.

>>54576489
Not even close. GW wants to discourage power level because then they can't sell you the points costs separately.

Power level is only for getting new kids into the game, then the expect them to move up to matched play and buy the most recent points publication.

>>54576560
>Yo-! You! Triple Heretic!

>>54576412
Two probably.

>>54576560
That chain bayonet ir is pretty call, but what's with the magazine lacking its case and I get that Chaos=spikey shit, but putting it on the gun seems excessive.

>>54576603
Except the guys who made it and are making it, of course.

>>54576384
Well 25 PL is pretty small, so have to plan around other 25 PL lists. So like a knight is game over for everyone, wehereas MOST Guard or marine stuff will be fairly weak.

That being said, a 20-man warrior blob is virtually unkillable in a 25 PL game, so think on that. Stick a cryptek and they're unshakeable, and can kill mot regular stuff well to boot.

On the flip side, you could do
>cryptek
>10 warriors
>5 lychguard (or 10 immortals)
>3 tomb blades- really damn good and fast too

Destroyers are pretty lame desu, I avoid them. If you want heavy firepower just pump out the wounds or get the lychguard in for lots of D2 attacks.

>>54576630
Not him but the guys who made it don't work there anymore. Every single writer for GW now is a secondhand fanfic author. The original stuff is better quality and more true to the setting.

>>54576635
He is playing tomorrow, and he doesn't have a lot of model options. I thought he wanted help from the models he has.