Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

Horus did nothing wrong

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Blood Axes are best Klan!

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IRON WARRIORS BETTER GET GOOD LEGION ABILITIES

1st Legion 'est Best Legion

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Nth for tyranids a cute

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6th for CUTEDAR.

>>54556589
Ironlet still got BTFO by Bobby G and his stormravens.

When will Ironlets learn?

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Omnissiah's ceramite testicles, why must basecoating Sicarians be such a bloody chore?

Ah well, done with the worst of it now, so time to go completely nuts with the Athonian, Agrax and Nuln before I do the bronze and black parts.

After them, some Infiltrators and Kastelans.
What are you painting up for Konor, anons?

>>54556588
>6+ FnP
>Can take Obliterators as Troops
You know it's coming. If you're lucky, they'll throw in some +1 to wound buildings

>>54556589
I hate how so many of their batreps are "premium content." The ones I saw were entertaining, but I can't imagine paying to watch them.

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nth for Redemptor and Leviathan buddy cop story, bros for life and death

>>54556605
Question for Ad Mech guy.

How do you roll for those guys who do 2 damage instead of 1 on a 6? Sequencing is very important and if you are hitting anything with 2 wounds or more, it matters. Only way I can see it working is if you roll 1 at a time but that's a huge pain.

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Are Titans any good in 8e, anons? I have discovered that MI actually has a Warhound or Reaver I could conceivably afford as a birthday present, and they are sexy, but I would rather not spend all that money on something that completely sucks.

Konor will not fall

How good would a Deldar army with 6 20 man warrior blobs and an archon in a rental is for army wide LD 10 be?

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Best codex SM have gotten in years, almost all of it is viable and most chapters can get the most of their armies via stratagems and relics.

I am loving it!.

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So I've been running lots of terminators ever since I started playing back in 6th. They've been improved considerably in 8th. What do you guys think of them now? I'm annoyed that I can't run termies and a lord in my shaggin wagon, but the new reserves system is pretty nice.

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>>54556550 #
It's more about how IF ALWAYS kicks the ever living shit out of the IW when they are both strong as fuck. I'm okay with a phyric victory, but anytime they go against each other, they make IW hopelessly incompetent despite their entire schtick being masters of the science of War..

>>54556633
>almost all is viable

If it ain't a 5 man squad in a razorback or a stormraven, its shit.

>>54556618
As the opponent allocates the wounds, they get to pick. They can roll all 2D first, or all 1D, or alternate them autistically for minimum damage if they want to do them all one by one.

This is one of the MANY reasons that I would like them returned to two WOUNDS on a 6+, not least because it would make them good
at their actual job again.

>>54556607
Please no. Traitor Legions basically forgot we exist. I don't want anymore rules that affect things we can't even field.

>>54556647
You clearly haven't played with the codex yet

>>54556607

"Can take X as troops" will never again be a thing now that detachments exist. Want to take nothing but obliterators? Just use the vanguard detachment or whatever it's called

>>54556658
I liked the one that people were tossing around about using cultists as cover and being able to shoot into your own guys

>>54556588
Its gonna be 'IW can advance and fire at -1BS'.

Why are space dog players so fucking autistic?

World Eater fans admit that Angron was bad, Iron Warrior fans admit that Perturabo was autistic, why does every wolf fag suck on Russ's dick so hard?

>>54556641

They know the science of war but not the art.

IW a shit

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I gonna play nidzilla !

>tfw your Legion's Primarch isn't Magnus

Why even live?

>>54556598

best girl

>>54556649
Can the opponent theoretically pick to assign 1W, then 2W and 1W and 2W to waste the 2W ones?

What the hell chaos get off your asses and stop losing this is embarrassing.

>>54556605
Right now I'm doing my Thousand Chads. Glossy red armour, golden trim. Going to have to buy some White Scar so I can do the eye lenses right, but oh well.
Really shocked with how easy the Primaris Marines are to paint, actually. It's like they were designed to be easy as hell to paint.
And after they're all done and based I'll reward myself with a Primaris Librarian.

>>54556684
Because most SW players are 14 year olds.

>>54556589
He seems cheerful. Who is he?

>>54556717
>he thinks chaos even has a chance

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>>54556713
Yup. Sadly nobody has been up for doing a lewd picture of her and Yvarine in the drawthread.

>>54556632

Could be doable as long as you support it well. Don't fall for the "anything can wound anything!" meme guardfags posit, you will not be able to reliably injure high T units with just splinter spam.

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I'm a crimson fist player constantly getting bodied by Space Wolves. Wulfen + Thunder Woves are on me by turn 2 minimum, with deep striking thunder hammer terminators joining the fray, and long fangs dominating me at range.

Anyone have advice for things a vanilla marine player can do to stop the onslaught of furry goodness.

>>54556706
the only primarch worse than magnus is lorgar

>>54556714
No. You have to take wounds on whatever model is wounded first.

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>>54556691
Is that why they charged to their deaths en masse? They were doing some kind of retarded artistic interpretive display?

>>54556684


Because nothing Russ did is on par with what Angron and Perturabo did.

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>>54556706
>tfw you Legion primarch is Fulgrim

>>54556684
>implying I don't shit on Russ every chance I get

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>>54556684
Because Russ was a handsome boy who did nothing wrong

>>54556738
He's right. Chaosbros, if we fight only each other all campaign that means we get a point for chaos no matter who wins.

>>54556770
And then Imperium will only fight imperium, leading to the exact same situation.
Which is an auto-lose for chaos because there are far more imperial players than there are chaos ones

>>54556691
You don't need art if you have enough artillery. Be as fancy with your maneuvers as you want, they won't help you when ten thousand tons of high explosives turns your army into slush.

>>54556747
I mean lets say you have terminators, and opponent rolled 5, 6s and 10 non 6s.

Can you assign the first wound to the terminators so it does 1 damage, and brings one down to 1 wound, and then assign that wounded guy to save a 2 wound attack, so that it is wasted on him effectively.

>>54556608
Absolutely agree. If I want to watch a game so badly that I'm willing to pay for it, I'll just go to the local store, buy something, sit down and assemble it while watching some dudes play.

>>54556667
Except that's literally already happening. "<Emperor's Children> Noise Marines are Troops" ring a bell?

>>54556658
I mean, the "fluffy" option would be to give them both the 6+ FnP from the Iron Hands and the "Ignore Cover bonuses" from the Imperial Fists and add option for a Basilisk, but I think all that for one faction would be slightly broken.

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reposting my 50pl list for the konor event

>>54556667
World eaters can take Khorne Berzerkers as troops and 1ksons can take rubriks as troops so it's not completely redundant

>>54556684
because even the setting is fooled by Leman Russ acting like a jackass

>>54556741
well i play daemons and i'm usually hosed at range before i get into assault. feed him a weak unit, fall back then melta or something with multiple damage him. your goal is to survive otherwise you get boxed in

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>>54556755

>deliberately embarking on a suicide mission is the same thing as unwittingly and unwillingly getting your ass kicked
>despite holding every single possible advantage the IW were still slowly getting pushed back by the IF

wew

And let's not even get into Perturabo literally being out-maneuvered and nearly killed by a force that was outgunned and not even being led by a primarch

>>54556758
>Russ
>Dindu nuffin
>Except for genocide an entire planet of imperial citizens who had no idea they were even going to be attacked
>all because you don't like psykers

And people call Perturabo evil. At least you can argue Perturabo was putting down a rebellion. Russ sucker punched an entire population and then in the same breath has the audacity to say "MUH WARRIORS HONOR"

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>>54556721
>mfw fellow preheresy TS.

>>54556740
Oh yeah no I plan on having 2 Dark lances in each blob and air support with Void Ravens. I just didn't know if 120 t3 5+ inf was complete shit. I know from 5th through 7th it was a literal deathtrap.

>>54556790
Generally you should be rolling the damage one at a time and assigning the damage in order.

>>54556741
Learn to screen battle brother

Looking at the points section in the back of Index Imperium 1, how come an assault terminator costs 5pts more than a regular terminator even before factoring in wargear? They seem to just have the exact same profile and rules aside from different gear selection, so what gives?

Was this a thing in previous editions? I play Dark Angels so regular termies/assault termies have essentially been the same thing for me, hence my ignorance.

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So if this thing is an escape pod (probably) working like a drop pod to get from air to surface, what would an escape pod for surface to air be like?

>>54556604
>post yfw Bobby G is a hipster now

>>54556813
>Literally trying to act like the Imperial Fists greatest embarrassment was somehow a victory

This is why I hate Fistfags. They can't ever accept the that their faggot banana men lost against the Iron Warriors

>>54556787

Is that why the White Scars literally ran circles around the Iron Warriors in every engagement they had and Horus had to eventually bitch Perturabo out and tell him to go fuck off somewhere else?

>>54556790
If a weapon does not do a constant amount of damage, you cannot "fast roll" damage; damage has to be rolled sequentially so that it can be allocated properly.

>>54556820
Looking good! Though that flared hood thingie looks kind of awkward propped up behind the psychic hood.

>>54556817
Having Autistic the red putting a giant blindfold over his own planet isn't Russ sucker punching.

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>>54556794

or should I try this tau list instead

>>54556791
If they give IW Basilisks I will never complain again. Or at least for like... a week

>>54556835
a rocket of some kind, probably with a "pod" that detaches from the engines after leaving atmosphere

>>54556817
>magnus did nothing wrong
>the post

>>54556841
Clearly they didn't have enough artillery.

>>54556817
>"No psykering or sorcery Magnus. I even invited all of you to discuss and tell you exactly that. And if you don't comply, I have to destroy you"
>"Wheeee, warpmagic, yay :D"
>...
>"W-why do you do this to me, father?"

>>54556817

>following a direct order from the person who acts with the authority of the Emperor himself is wrong

>>54556853
>IW
>not complaining
I thought that was the bitter bros thing though

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So, I wonder what weapons to put on the Aggressors.
On the one hand, flamer fists would make for solid brawlers as I'd be less inclined to try and make the most of their double tap. They could accompany a Gravis Captain into the thick of it, but their flamers wouldn't really benefit much.
On the other hand, bolters and frags have okay range to camp on a forward objective and pelt an opponent with mediocre shots. Sticking a Gravis Captain seems also sub-par.

Help?

>>54556741
Use Rhinos, disembark your dudes and push the Rhinos forward to meet assaulting units or block line of sight or use them to deny deep striking areas.

>>54556850
>Slaughtering a population that had no clue that they were being attacked or that they were even declared heretical

That's sucker punching. Magnus concealed the Wolves approach, but Wolves shouldn't have been full fledged faggots and destroyed everything. They should have just gone to arrest Magnus.

>>54556880
I'll be too busy doing our other thing; shelling people.

>>54556634
I like that they have two wounds. My only experience with chaos terminators was 8 with lightning claws and 2 with heavy flamers. It was a 1000 point game so they ate up much of my army composition but they provided marine killing power so far i have never been able to replicate in chaos whilst forcing my opponent to fall back and concentrate very large amounts of ranged fire on them.
So far the only thing i am sad about is Miasma of Pestilence cannot target them as they cannot be Death Guard. Can you imagine how tanky they would be?

>>54556835
Why would escape pod exist for ground vehicles? Just walk out the door.

>>54556733
Stop being logical on /tg/

>>54556820
>>54556721
Does it work out well, anons? I was thinking of doing this for a while but decided against it because I was unsure of the whole thing.

>>54556893
DG can't have Terminators? Wasn't have tons of them one of their defining traits back during the GC and HH?

So is "Cawl used traitor geneseed to make Primaris" canon or not?

>>54556838

>the fluff outright states that Dorn sent his legion into the iron cage with the intent of grinding it down so he could passive-aggressively rebel against the codex astartes
>fluff explicitly states that the IF we're giving as good as they got despite being the attackers
>waaaaaaaaaah s-stop it!

What is this delusion. Furthermore what is this rage?

>>54556888
>Be prosperan spire guard
> buisness as usual, funny the entire legion came home though
>No word from the orbital relays in weeks, probably nothing
>See imperial dropships descend
>Hurr better open fire
>.
>.
>.
>wow why are you killing us

>>54556900
Less of for ground vehicles and more for getting off the planet in case of things going bad.

>>54556739
I'm still waiting for Celestine and Greyfax as Sailor Moon and Sailor Jupiter.

>>54556620
yes they are good
you'll never get to use them aside from the yearly apocalypse game in your flg though
and if you get 2nd turn prepare for it to get DELET turn 1 by the 5 shadowswords on the opposing side

>>54556913
GW is about to release some fancy death guard exclusive terminators designed to represent the different way DG use terminators to other people. So DG ARE meant to use tons of terminators, just they are meant to use a kind that don't exist yet.

>>54556922
That's basic procedure for every country in the world if you don't have clearance for landing and appear out of nowhere without saying anything

>>54556930
>I never heard of this in modern jets before.

Anon, please....

>>54556921
how is that not an argument against Dorn.

"whats this no more legion, better kill off my sons"

>>54556937
put up some cash and maybe you'll get some art

>>54556943
That makes sense. Probably means we'll also get Red Butchers and some kind of Phoenix Guard in the future.

>>54556922
That was after the entire planet got basically Exterminatus'd, with the only reason that the capital wasn't flattened being the Psychic shields the TS used.

You'd open fire too.

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>>54556937
FIGHTING DAEMONS BY MOONLIGHT.

>>54556913
DG getting these when their codex is out.

>>54556952
Because fists are retarded and someone at GW makes it a point to never have them lose anything ever when they are fighting the Iron Warriors. It's pathetically one sided despite both legions being extremely good at what they do.

>>54556909
Depends. Do you want to be a psychic death machine army or do you want to be an organized legion with toys?

If magic is what you want, just go full chaos. If you want to field really clean looking organized force, go loyalist marine.

>>54556922
But anon that is common sense.

Even if you are friendly you don't simply try to land an invasion force without at least warning your ally.

>>54556917
Cawl has traitor geneseed and has purified it so he could in theory create primaris from those legions. Robutt told him not to do it so he hasn't done it yet, but at some point its possible he might do it secretly or something.

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>>54556874

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Are the baneblsdes gonna be back in stock anytime soon?

>>54556930
i believe they use a nifty litlle invention called a spaceplane for that
the future sure is crazy

How likely is it we see more new kits for chaos?

I'd love to start either a Word Bearers or Black Legion Army, but something about the old chaos Marines just doesn't look right to me. The new Death Guard looks much more like chaos should imo

>>54556972
Imagine the already stupid fast production of Primaris, but with the meat grinding recruitment efficiency of the Iron Warriors. There'd be more IWs than normal humans in the span of a week.

>>54556970
You're not wrong, but the traitors do lose the right to bitch about it like they didn't get a chance to fight back

>>54556965
singing dwarf with weird headphones?

>>54556881
I'd say take the Flamers. Auto-hits can't be screwed over by To Hit modifiers, which also means their Overwatch is just another shooting phase for them and which means that you only need a Lieutenant to buff them, not a Captain.
Also, with that many auto-hits, you might ruin a Flyer's day.

>>54556968
I meant more of modelwise, is the painting fun and relatively simple or would I be putting a ton of work on myself trying to do this?

>>54556888
>Magnus concealed the Wolves approach, but
but what

"if you don't comply we'll open fire" doesn't really leave much room for interpretation. Prospero being such a cluster fuck is all on magnus.

>>54556996
Take a look at Raptors and Chosen, they look pretty nice. I believe at some point new chaos space marine and havoc kits will come out, maybe some other things too but those two are the most outdated looking and GW has been kind of pushing havocs this edition.

>>54556922
>preform orbital bombardment
>hurrr why are you shooting back at us

>>54557023
>Ignore about a years worth of warning messages
>Hurrr why are you bombarding us

>>54556988
just get a stormhammer

>>54556909
Well, it's absolutely not comparable to all the snowflake rules a true 30k Thousand Sons army has and not even comparable to the snowflake rules a Chaos Thousand Sons army enjoys, but the colour scheme looks fantastic on Primaris Marines imo and the conversion opportunities are fantastic. And with the Supreme Command detachment, you will never have too few Librarians in your army.

>>54557013
If you have good gold spray paint then yes, shit is easy.

If not, it's a fucking nightmare.

>>54557033
>come out with your hands up
>no reply
>okay we did all we could , better nuke the place

>>54557003
Not really no, given that there is suddenly a million ships in your atmosphere and you can't even prepare. Hell in their minds they probably thought that the SW had betrayed the Imperium and were attacking them for Horus

Reminder to every heretic that says Russ was dishonourable: A truly dishonourable opponent (like all your traitor brothers) Would've just sent the titan legion into the city

>>54556917
Yes. Girlyman told him to stop that nonsense, but those Marines are already done, so they're still there even if Cawl doesn't produce any more of them.

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>>54556835

>>54556988
Holy shit a lot of IG are out of stock. Update soon?

>>54557077
Maybe this year but not soon, they're reboxing a lot of their stock.

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How do you start building a Minotaurs army? Their fluff says they are brutal and aggressive and almost always fight at full chapter strength, so I want to go with an offensive style.

I'm guessing bikess, but what about drop pods?

Techmarine/Apothecary a must? Both, or one?

Also, what tanks would you recommend? Land Raiders are expensive as shit, and I can fit a Whirlwind, Predator, and Vindicator in for that price.

>>54557077
That's not how it works. SoB have been out of stock dozens of times. Stop thinking it means anything. Out of stock means out of stock.

>>54557069
I don't really have a stake in the conversation, but are you seriously drawing a line in warcrime at giant robot level? Glassing a planet is less of a bad thing then sending giant mechs?

>>54557047
>>54557056

huh that guy who the emperor and his warmaster told us has a traitor is ignoring our warnings and has massed his legion on prospero.
why on earth would we want to treat that as hostile

Anyone has the scan for the agressors ?

>>54557069
But anon, Russ send his own SW legion, a Titan maniple, tons of Custodes and SoS into the city. And it was only Valdor of all people trying to convince people to surrender.

Also
>Ordered to arrest legion and primarch
>Other guy tells you to kill them all instead
>Zero hesitation, not even asking for confirmation from big E himself
>Exterminatus and massed planetary assault without even sending a "We're coming for you"

>>54557072
No, Cawl only did some tests with the geneseed, there aren't actually any chad marines made with it yet.

>>54557116
you mean the same guy who sent away his entire fleet ?
welp better murder all those civilians then !

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My local GW equivalente store is running FoK in PL... Yes I know it is stupid. This week is 20-25PL This list is mostly for shits and giggles.

Sailor Jupiter's Fan Club [25 PL, 487pts]
Vanguard Detachment

HQ
Inquisitor Greyfax [5 PL, 85pts]: 3 - Dominate

Elites
Astropath [1 PL, 21pts]: Gaze of the Emperor, Telepathica Stave

Astropath [1 PL, 21pts]: Gaze of the Emperor, Telepathica Stave

Astropath [1 PL, 21pts]: Psychic Barrier, Telepathica Stave

Astropath [1 PL, 21pts]: Telepathica Stave, Terrifying Visions

Troops
Militarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 70pts]
2x Hot-shot Lasgun
2x Plasma gun
Tempestor: Plasma pistol, Power maul

Militarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 70pts]
2x Hot-shot Lasgun
2x Plasma gun
Tempestor: Plasma pistol, Power maul

Flyer
Valkyries [10 PL, 178pts]
2x Multiple Rocket Pods, Multi-laser, 2x Heavy Bolters

>>54556972
>>54557072

Sweet, so my Alpha Legion successors can be canon! Thanks /tg/!

>>54557116
>traitor is ignoring our warnings

Even if Magnus wasn't blocking everything, no warnings were send by Russ. His hate for nerds is so severe he wanted to go in dry.

>>54556684
Russ was a charismatic asshole. Agron and Perturabo were just assholes.

scans of the space marine book when

>>54556634
>>cant run terminators and lord in shaggin wagin
Why do you think you can't do this?

>>54556746
Go awoo somewhere else faggot

>>54557103
Don't do drop pods. Go rhinos/razorbacks.
If you want to deapstrike, I recommend assault marines.

Also try to get many plasma. Minotaurs kill SM all the time.

>>54557170
Perturabo was a misunderstood and poorly treated asshole. Some assholes are born and some are made. Perturabo was of the latter.

>>54556881
Depends on your chapter? What tactics are you using?

>>54557178
Min termy squad size is 5 now. CSM Land Raiders can only carry five Terminators.

>>54557145
Didn't the Titans belong to Horus? I though the whole point was they were there to make absolutely sure that Russ wrecked Prospero's shit

>>54557165
It can, but then because the AL stole the tech for chad marines and set up a 'legal' chapter that has all the correct papers and everything.
I mean if the AL can replace a High Lord Inquisitor with one of their agents without anybody noticing, they can create a totally legit looking loyalist chapter.

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GUYS SQUATS CONFIRMED

so i just got a hold of 20 vanguard vets.... how should I equip them?

>>54556620

They're good but Titans are really good at killing each other, don't expect 4 turn slapfights from 7th to occur

>>54557210
Would the internet explode it this happened?

>>54557211
Depends on what you want/need them to do

>>54557199
You can take an undersize unit of Termies, but it must be as an auxilliary detachment. Not sure if that helps you or not.

>>54557077
there's a lot of GW product out of stock, apparently they've lost a lot of people in production

>>54557203
Not sure, though Horus did sent one company of his Sons of Horus with them to make sure things went right and to abduct as many powerfull human psykers as they could get their hands on.

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>>54557077
Maybe

>>54557199
Oh.

Right.

Yeah wtf is with that? That's lame.

>>54557145
>Zero hesitation

we have no idea what horus told him, and probably never will because forgeworld can't think of anything.

I've got 7 DI Plague Marines and 3 snap fit ones.

Want to run them as 2, 5 man units for PL purposes and so it can count as a batallion. Best way to split them?

I have 1 champion with fist and plasma gun, 1 champion with fist and bolt pistol.

6 guys with bolters.

1 guy with plasma gun.

1 guy with blight launcher.

How should I best split them into 5 man teams?

>>54557194
Celestial Lions, so I guess I'm stuck with Imperial Fists, garbage though they may be.

>>54557235
I thought the rule was if you don't physically own enough models you can run them under strength. Am I misunderstanding that?

>>54557069
Actually, taking the Sisters or Motherfucking Silence onto the planet with ALL the Psykers was probably the most dishonourable thing anyone in the entire canon has ever done.

xenos konor allegiances
eldar greatest ally

Necrons
http://www.strawpoll.me/13546406

Eldar
http://www.strawpoll.me/13546410

T'au
http://www.strawpoll.me/13546413

Dark Eldar
http://www.strawpoll.me/13546417

Tyranids
http://www.strawpoll.me/13546419

>>54557261
It was, it's clarified that they can only be in aux detachments now though. So there's a sufficient penalty that doesn't involve throwing your minis away.

>>54557155
if the civilians didn't want to get high impact yiffed, they should tried leaving the city instead of picking up lasguns and stupidly trying to fight back

>>54557256
Probably put plasmas into the same squad and the launcher into the other.

>>54557284
Neat. I'll have to start doing that.

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>>54556634
Get a Spartan

>>54557248
Come on, this is the guy that attacked the World Eaters legion with his own without any permission in a vain attempt to teach Angron that nails and being mindless killers is bad yo.

>Be battle thirsty berserker
>Telling other berserker that he should stop being berserker
It never stops being impressive how much of a hypocrite Russ is.

>>54557271
>not spreading your cheeks for a psychic rape is the most dishonourable thing done ever.

>>54557261
New FAQ says you may take an undersize unit but only as an auxilliary detachment. Meaning it's perfectly legal even in Matched, BUT only if you're willing to pay a Command Point to do it.

Still worth it to get your Chaos Lord into a Land Raider, or for fielding Venomthropes without having to pay for three of the fuckers. Or to get some Astra Militarum as Tyranids by taking along one understrength unit of Neophytes.

>>54557231
Well, that's disappointing. Don't really want a model that big to be removed instantly on Turn One starting. Is it the whole "Macro weapons are rocket tag" thing again?

>>54557288
>Entire planet got Exterminatus'd
>"Why are you not leaving your city ?! This is outrageous, die !"

>>54557271
Bringing girls to a planet of nerds.

If anything it was brilliant.

Is 10 Reivers with knives/pistols a better anti-horde CC force than vets with chainswords?

I feel like the extra wound will help keep your killing power intact.

>>54557333
That is kinda of funny actually.

Also means that Russ needed girls to help him out beating up nerds.

>>54557319
Fuck off. Standing near even one Sister is practically unbearable for a Psyker. Having dozens of those bitches running around probably felt to all Psykers like having their brains flossed with white-hot razor wire.

>>54557350
The fact that the sergeant can't get power weapons is retarded.

>>54557297
>2017
>buying manlets

Good goy. I bet you're going to buy the primaris spartan on top of that.

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>>54557103
Get Moloch, get Aiakos. Both are amazing and work perfectly.
A bodyguard of assault termies would not be amiss, either.
Beyond that, tacticals and sternguard with plasma and a couple of predators and/or whirlwinds. Stormeagle Roc is also aces and exclusive to your chapter.

>>54557350
I'd rather take two units of 5 so you can toss twice as many Shock Grenades because those things are bonkers, but yeah, pretty much. The only reason to take Vets instead is for the Jump Packs.

>>54557373
Hey look, it's another GW shill

>>54557288
The areas outside the city were full of psychic mosquitos before the exterminatus and was a radioactive wasteland afterwards. Also they tried to bomb the city anyways the psychic shield was all that stopped it and pissed of Russ even more that they were using psychers to protect themselves.

>>54557297
Spartan costs almost 500pts. If they give me Papa Pert at some point I'll get one so he can drive around in it. Other wise it's just too much of a points sink.

>>54557361
if only there was something those psykers could've done to avoid this

>>54557361
>girls are gross!!!!
Effective battle tactic
Russ tactical genius?

>>54557259
Hmm. Fists don't really favor one or the other. That said I think Bolter Agressors are better generalists.

Also, I don't think you should feel obligated to stick to IF tactics. As long as you aren't using special characters or the chapter specific relics you should feel free to run as wise other tactics you feel more appropriate.

I run Mantis Warriors and plan to alternatively use both White Scars, their founding chapter, and Raven Guard, which are a closer fluff match.

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>>54557259
>not homebrewing your own chapter and choosing whatever ct you want

>>54556952

Its not an argument against Dorn because the context of the diecussion is about military prowess. Knowingly going into a suicide mission is retardes but its hardly a strategic blunder if your intention is to sustain massive losses.

Much to the chagrin of the eternally assblasted IW fan I was talking to.

>>54557394
sure sucks for them.
shame there wasn't some kind of legion of super soldiers dedicated to protecting these people, who would do things like obey someone who sends genocidal berserkers when he's angry

>>54557416
>camo pattern
>bright red helmet

>>54556982

>being this delusional

Even Magnus is on record of stating that what happened at Prospero cant be pinned on the Wolves

Has the Space Marine codex officially been released yet? And do we have rules for the Repulsor yet?

>>54557421
i'd argue military prowess involves not getting hundreds of men killed because you don't like a book.

>>54557454
Which is why he personally went to wreck Fenris in Wrath of Magnus in revenge, because they're clearly not to blame.

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>have game sat
>need 75pl of deldar
>only have ~50PL 1000pts assembled
>konor starts
>want to have SC painted for game
>need to assemble 15 warriors, 3 Reavers, and 5 hellions as well as paint an entire SC by sat
>work is ass and I'll have to be working OT

Just kill me now.

>>54557475
No. Yes.

>>54557413
and plan to alternatively use both White Scars, their founding chapter, and Raven Guard, which have even better rules.
there i fixed it for you

>>54557509
Is there a datasheet for the latter floating about? I can't seem to find one myself.

>>54557166

>Even if Magnus wasn't blocking everything, no warnings were send by Russ.

Magnus knew. In fact he literally killed the only other dude who knew so that it wouldnt get out.

Also, word of god says that Russ regretted Prospero and the whole incident filled him with doubt "for the first time"

>>54557479
This

Also thanks to Dorn being stupid, Perty made off with six million geneseed and become immortal as a Daemon Primarch. He just made his enemy unkillable. That's literally the opposite of a victory.

Has anyone actually been in to their FLGS yet? Do you need to buy and paint an entire SC set or just bring units contained in the SC? Could you paint ones you didn't buy there?

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>>54557444
>Implying space marines are logical at all

>>54557531
Just wait. It will be posted again.
If you're not busy, check the archive for the lat 2-3 threads. You're bound to find it.

>>54557170
>Agron
This fucker would have been one of the staunchestly loyal of the Primarchs if the Emperor had teleported himself and terminators to the battlefield to help Angron instead of teleoprting him away. Think about it: the planet was obviously not a conquered world or they would have reported Angron to the Emperor since during the GC everyone knew what a Primarch was.

The Emps could have at that moment killed two birds with one stone. Instead he chose to turn Angron into an asshole. Still, Angron was a pretty good leader and respected his men once Angron realized they were actual hardcore fighters and not faggots who kidnapped him.

>>54557491
isn;t that because he got rekt so hard he became schizophrenic with all the shards and shit

>>54557390
GW shills are known to use anti-semitic tropes.

>>54556853
What is RnH? Don't even have to take anything else. Hell take some Quadlaunchers too

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Bikes or Landspeeders?

I'm partial to Landspeeders myself.

>>54557479

Fortunately words have definitions, so okay.

I'm excited for the jump pack LT.

For about 450 points, I'm thinking of using this as an assault force to supplement my gunline lists:

Jump pack chaplain
Jump pack Lt with blade of medusa
5 assault marines with eviscerator + meltabomb + combat shield sgt, 2 flamers
5 vanguard with SS+TH+meltabomb sgt, SS+Axe, LC+LC, Plasma + Sword, and double chainsword

Depending on how dense terrain is, I plan on deep striking them mid field in cover and the following turn rushing them in to toss meltabombs at vehicles and tear shit up.

>>54557533
>murder millions of innocents
>cause an entire legion to turn traitor
>fail to catch the guy you where sent to get in the first place (this guy was gonna come along willingly btw)
>hmmmm i'm not sure , i may have fucked up t: lemon ruse

>>54557554
The Emperor is a terrible father and could have avoided a lot of problems if he didn't treat half of his sons like dogshit. This is known. Magnus, Angron, Pert, and Lorgar could have been saved.

>>54557554

The Emperor should have known that Angron would be an assblasted manchild for literally centures due to not getting his petty revenge

>>54557326

Sort of, you probably won't one shot each other but you'll take(or give) serious damage turn 1 which affects the other guys Titans damage

>>54557588
Don't forget attacking and destroying a loyal imperial guard regiment who had stopped there to refuel and resupply.

>>54557511
Yes and no. White Scars Jump Packers are actually pretty fucking sick as they can "fallback" 12" while moving through models and terrain, shoot, and charge in the same turn. They're like Imperial Harlequins.

>>54557567
Are those rules hidden somewhere? RnH aren't even mentioned in the FW Chaos Index.

>>54557588

>its Russ fault Magnus shattered the webway and doomed humanity to fighting an infinite horde of daemons for all eternity

>>54557569
Depends on what chapter you are.

>>54557610
its in the AM FW index

>>54557610

They're in the Astra Militarum index.

>>54556835
vertical railgun

>>54557605
And butchering a pack of unarmed women and children just to clear out a last pocket of Spireguard who were holed up and unlikely to even resist if you left them alone. Then conveniently leaving out the butchery in the saga.

Come ON, I'm a Reductor player and even WE think that was bad form. Commit war crimes, sure, but don't cover them up afterwards then act like you're some kind of saint of snowflakes.

>>54557621
Gotcha, my thanks.

>>54557616
>moving the goalpost
also it's literally russ' fault the emperor still has to suffer on the golden throne , magnus could have taken his place, and he probably would have since he felt really bad about the whole webway thing

>>54557616
That's the Emperor's fault. He could have avoided the entire Magnus fiasco if he had just told Magnus what was going on or kept Magnus closer to his side.

>>54557210
i mean the leaked lasgun does resemble their weapons. and they did mention a new faction coming.

>>54557596
If the Emperor is so perfect, how and why did he engineer a demigod capable of such treacherous emotions :^)

>>54557616
No, but if Russ would have dragged Magnus and his lads to Terra they would have been able to help out and maybe even fix what Magnus broke.

>>54557616
>It's Magnus' fault the Emepror didn't make the webway project out of psychically resistant materials like the rest of the webway.

Think of Chapter Tactics for GK, BA, SW and DA

>GK: Reduce damage taken from psychic powers by half and something else
>BA: +1S and hits first on charge
>SW: Hits first regardless of charging or charged
>DA: Re-rolls against Chaos(?) and +1Ld?

Dunno desu.

>>54557444
should've been a bright orange helmet tbqh

From 1d4chan on Kevin Roundtree:

>Update as of June 2016: HOLY SHIT HE BROUGHT BACK SPECIALIST GAMES AND ALLOWED MODS IN TOTAL WAR WARHAMMER, PRAISE BE UNTO OUR MESSIAH! HE ALSO GAVE US DEATHWATCH, GENESTEALER CULTS, AND PLASTIC HORUS HERESY! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! AND DID WE MENTION THAT HE BROUGHT FUCKING DAEMON PRIMARCHS INTO 40K?!

I've been out of the loop on how 40k/Fantasy etc were throughout the mid 2000s to the mid 2010s. Is Kevin Roundtree taking GW in the right direction?

>>54557673
DA will probably get to hit on overwatch on 5s.

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>>54557511
Their old CT is called "Shadow Killers". They're a stealth ninja assault chapter as is Raven Guard.

So I'm looking for a cheap way to get into the game and have been hearing a lot about how Tau are cheap on eBay at the moment since apparently the fishmen have been gutted. Is it a good idea to jump in with them or is being a Taufag not worth the apparent cheapness?

>>54557616
Or you know, the emperor could have just installed a fucking communication device in his lab so when he was needed he could be contacted. Hell he could have made doors that don't require so much force to open that anything that opened them would destroy the interior. Seriously that shit was a disaster waiting to happen.

>>54557297
>Get a Spartan
nope .. no chaos version of potm so it's trash..

>>54557210
dont play with my heart. i played squats in EPC and planned to play them in 40k but they got nixed in so i never got to build that army ;_;

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Please tell me you can open the hatch and paint the marine inside, or does he come painted in a standard color and the hatch is locked?

>>54557680
he's largely responsible for the change in overall tone and policy that are allowing things like the above to happen. I don't think he's as directly responsible for many of these things as people would like to believe, but it is very much true that whoever is in charge sets the tone for the whole company.

Given that, I think the change and his presence is very beneficial both to the company and to us as paying customers.

The fact that kirby basically got kicked out after the last earnings call seems to back that up. Looks like the investors don't want his hands within a mile of the company.

>>54557638

How is that moving the goalpost? The assertion is that Russ is responsible for Prospero when literally everything he did was at the order of someone with authority over him

>>54557722
>come painted

>>54557722
You paint him and glue the hatch on

>>54557680
Yes, he has been ever since he took a box of 5 models for 40 bucks and turned it into a box of 10 models for 50 bucks.

>>54557722
It comes in pieces friend. You assemble it yourself.

>>54557673
>SW: Hits first regardless of charging or charged

Nah, they're gonna get '+1A during the Fight phase'

DA might get something like old intractable, like +1 to Hit when youre in area terrain.

BA will get Red Thirst in some way, maybe +1S to infantry thats within 12'' of enemy units.

>>54557748
What models you talking about?

>>54556563
Those cosplays are pretty fucking ween

>>54557732
>I was just following orders
lol heard that before

>>54557707

>the Emperor should have anticipated his son directly disobeying his orders and joining forces with the dark gods in order to smash through his palace' defenses

>>54557722
>does he come painted
I take it you're a gundam pleb

>>54557732
>3.5 excellent arguments as to why what I said was bullshit
>better focus on the half an argument that I think I can argue against

>>54557772

Not an argument

>>54557760
Great, so SW get the best chapter tactic AGAIN for the 3rd dex running. +1A global was insane in 6th and 7th and it's insane now. +1S is useless unless you can get to S8. Which is only possible with Power Maul + Sanguinary Priest for BA. As for DA, I'd have expected that for IF.

>>54557732
Prospero got bad as it did because of Russ. Him being a raging idiot is what ultimately lead to nothing being accomplished, huge number of casualties and forces of chaos getting another for their cause

>>54557704
Right now probably the cheapest way to start is to start one of the armies in the dark imperium box, since its relatively cheap for the number of models in it.

>>54557787
Uhh. You're whining about someone's asspull wishlist.

>>54557780

Also not an argument

>>54557761
AoS Liberators, which were released overcosted under Kirby and got that "twice the models for 10 bucks more" treatment under Kevin.

What are safe buy necron units besides warriors and immortals

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Is this the largest air vehicle mini available to Imperium players, or is there something bigger?

>>54557673
>GK: All damage dealt to Daemon units is doubled

Done.

>>54557792

>Prospero got bad as it did because of Russ.

Explain how

>>54557811
>bigger
Titan with assault pack

>The White Scars are badly depleted by the renewed Chaos invasions due to the rift opening but the Indomitus Crusade shows up and delivers their Primaris reinforcements, saving the Chapter.

>They then launch a vengeful campaign against the Red Corsairs, attacking and boarding a major Space Station siezed by Huron Blackheart. The Chapter Master of the White Scars, Jubal Khan, and his honor guard fight their way to the heart of the structure when its plasma reactors blow, the strike force becomes trapped in the exploding structure. The fate of the WS Chapter Master and his honour guard are unknown.

LMAO, What a bunch of fuck-ups.

>>54557673

Grey knights have some cool stuff going for them chapter wide already, I imagine they may consolidate the demonhunters, teleport strike and their unique smite into chapter tactics

Tell me Space Marine players, why did you pick one of the most boring factions? Just because they're the poster boys? Generally curious.

-t. Ork player. Never understood the appeal of the a Imperium. Chaosfags are retards but at least they have flavor.

>>54557652
i was looking through my art folder and realized their las guns looked like the leaked image, so that's why i posted it.

that's pretty much it.

>>54557804
>>54557786
no, but these >>54557648 >>54557663 >>54557667 are and you have yet to reply to them.

>>54557802
Leakers have posted legitimate leaks on /40kg/ before. You don't know that this isn't the case here.

>>54557786
Neither is just following orders according to nearly every court.
>>54557776
Its not like he had to predict that, he had no contingencies for any kind of emergency or situation where he was needed. Fuck for all anyone knew he was dead or kidnapped and it was all a ruse. If the President of the United States spent a year out of contact with literally everyone in a secret bunker do you think people would react well to that? Now imagine doing that during wartime.

>>54556634
>>54557178
>>54557297
YOU CAN TELEPORT THEM ALMOST EVERYWHERE FOR FUCKING FREE U DOUBLE NIG NOG WHY WOULD YOU EVEN NEED A FUCKING TRANSPORT?
YOU CAN ONLY PULL THE UNITS OUT OF VEHICLES AT THE BEGGINING OF YOUR PHASE ANYWAY

>>54557810
Wraiths, Praetorians, and Ghost Arks have seldom failed me in games.

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Today on Konor the Dark Angels and Skitarii army were defeated by the Death Guard and Tzeentch-serving renegade space marines.
Techmarine, 2 squads of ravenwing bikers, librarian, apothecary, 3 whirlwinds and 2 magos, 2 squads of infiltrators, 2 squads of rangers, 2 dunecrawlers
vs
Nurge psyker guy, 2 squads of plague marines, 3 blight drones and captain, 2 dreadnoughts, venerable dreadnought, siege dreadnought and devastator squad.
Played the special mission and won by 1 victory point to gain a foothold on the filthy Ultramar world. Won by 1 victory point because a single plague marine hid inside a building on the last turn and two magos, a librarian, an apothecary, a dunecrawler and a single skitarii alpha failed to knock four wounds off a dreadnought in close combat

>>54557810
For winning? All those tourney lists SPAMMED annihilation barges. Also the command barge is best hq I think.
Wraiths with beamers look good too

>>54557873
You aren't going to see leaks from three different codexes that will be released at entirely different times together like that.

>>54556563
>female space marine

>>54557887
Because the transport moving on turn 1 then letting them safely out on turn 2/3 has a better chance of getting them into charge range sometimes.

>>54557811

I believe yes, it is almost the big air mini overall. Second to just the Manta I think?

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Meanwhile, Dorn's boys are based

>Seeking revenge for the attack on the Phalanx, the Imperial Fists launch an invasion of the Iron Warrior’s newly fortified world of Ironhold (original). Aided by several Knight Houses, they win and defeat their arch-rivals, taking the planet for the Imperium.

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>Konor Campaign: Chaos BTFO edition

I bet the filthy Xenos are behind this!

>>54557908
>Awkward imperial fist in the back
He's worse than the female space marine, trying to pretend he fits in with space wolves.

>>54557916
>le iron cage
trolling in 3..2..1..

>>54557873
The first post specifically stated it was just his wishlist.

>>54557866

I havent replied to them because they have nothing to do with my discussion you dumbass. "It was the emperors fault" How does that in any way address my assertion that Prospero wasnt Russ' responsability?

>>54557856
Well, several reasons.
First, because I can cherry-pick from a huuuge super-faction. I can have an army made up of Primaris Marines, Custodes, Tempestus Scions and an Inquisitor, all of which look vastly different from each other and are still allowed together because lolimperiumkeyword.
Second, I wanted, for once, to paint some Marines without spikes piercing my fingers all the time.
Third, normal Marines are bland, yes, but that means you can put as many adornments on them as you feel like and personalize them, something that I find very hard to do with Orks, aside from just painting them a different colour.
And finally, because Chaos got cucked AGAIN and I'd like to actually win with Marines for a change. Will switch back to Death Guard as soon as their release hits. Aaany week now.

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>A Bloodthirster named Khar’kul leads his demonic forces into a Hive World, slaughtering anyone in his way. The Salamanders deploy in Chapter Strength and overcome this enemy with the use of massed Aggressor squads equipped with flamers.

Salamanders also winning and confirmed for using Chads.

>>54557916
Source for this?

>>54557902
Nice job moving the goalposts and providing no proof.

>>54557956
>what is misdirection
You know leakers get fired if found yeah?

>>54557852
What?

>>54557964
>Oh look at Leman Russ, the most free-spirited Primarch of them all, the one so bold he even tells the Emperor to go fuck himself
>Emperor gives retarded order that even Russ has doubts about
So tell me again why the oh-so-free-spirited and honourable Primarch did not simply refuse to commit innumerable warcrimes?

>>54557991
>>54557971

https://spikeybits.com/2017/07/codex-space-marine-fluff-spotted.html

faggot Chaos keeps trolling Imperium by detonating spaces of importance lol

>>54557324
Isn't it still only legal if you literally don't own the other models for the unit?

>>54557936
>edgelord furry wolfy woof wolf marines
It's like being astartes isn't cool enough they have to try and do more but fail horribly because all the wolf wank makes them look like faggots.

>>54557856

>boring

How are superhuman monastic space knights boring? They're cool as fuck and there's a good reason people love them

>>54557880

>Neither is just following orders according to nearly every court.

Then i guess its a good thing this discussion is not taking place in a court nor in the context of lawfulness.

> he had no contingencies for any kind of emergency or situation where he was needed.


the psychic wards that were so strong that even the second most powerful psyker in the galaxy couldnt get through was the contingency

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>>54558003
>spikeybits

Thinking of getting into Tzeentch daemons with the SC box. Are you better off running the Herald on the Burning Chariot as one unit, or have them be separate?

>>54557983
>>goalposts
Oh fuck off. I was just letting you know you shouldn't knee jerk so hard to a post literally in response to someone requesting wishlists of CTs. >>54557673

>>54557105

It matters when it happens to factions people care about.

>>54557994

I just want to make sure before I call you a retard.

Your argument is that Russ is at fault for Prospero because when Horus the Warmaster and the Emperor himself told him that the Magnus hsd gone rogue and needed to be taken down, Russ should have told them both to go fuck themselves?

>>54558003
>linking to pedobits
Don't give that thief ad revenue

>>54557916
>revenge for a battle you won

>>54557760
>+1A during the Fight phase
Isn't the Fight phase the only time A matters? Why not just say +1A? Regardless, that's a pretty substantial buff for a lot of troops. Old troops with chainswords go from 2 to 3 attacks, a 50% increase. I'd expect either +1A on charge, or the hits-first to be more likely.

>>54558011
Yes and the imperial fist is like BUT DAD IM A WOLF ON THE INSIDE CANT YOU SEE?

>>54558065
I was the guy who said SW getting +1A would make them the best. I saw your reply and left it. It's somebody else replying to you.

>>54557916

>Managing to beat the (traitor variant) Iron Jobbers
wooow

>>54557852

And so it begins, marines+ being shoehorned everywhere
>>54557969
>day is saved not by marinelets, but real marines

>>54557892
Huh, early discussion suggested annihilation barges were shit because they had no AP on the main guns. I guess that's why early discussions should be taken with lots of salt.

>>54557596

Yes, yes he should have non-sarcastically known that.

>>54558030
Courts are one of the places with the most detailed discussions of accountability, that's why i brought them up, not that they have any connection to imperial law.

Keeping other people from getting in wasn't the problem, the chances of that kind of emergency were slim to none, meanwhile there were giant problems all over the imperium that could require solving and the potential for new ones to occur (and oh boy did they occur) so it was incredibly irresponsible to lock himself away with no means of being contacted.

>>54556739
>that body
NICE-
>that face
oh

A great unclean one charges a unit

next turn, my opponent decides to charge a another unit into the combat

the GUO's plague flail says it can be fired as a ranged weapon even if there is another unit with in 1" of it

going with RAW, can the plague flail make an overwatch attack?

>>54556563
Is there a place to get all the vassal tokens you sometimes see? Imperial Guard and chaos particularly. I'm going to be running a R20 Only War game.

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WTF is GW Enfield doing?

#RiggedAgainstChaos

>>54558124
No. Page 182, a unit cannot fire overwatch if an enemy unit is within 1 inch of it. Doesn't say "because it cant shoot" or anything.

>>54558074
The Emperor told Russ to bring Magnus back to Terra to answer for what he did, Horus could have said anything but what he said would not have overwritten what the Emperor told him.

>>54557240
Hmm master crafted hell pistol is what I'm going with, so its likely for a named character, especially since it actually has iron sights.

>>54558038
Herald on Chariot. A herald on foot is useless

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>>54558121
Somebody randomly did it for me in the drawthread and it's good enough for me. The best results I've ever got from drawthread was two really good quality female Stormcast Eternals. Well, three actually. But I got two from one request.

Sadly I cannot draw to save my life otherwise I'd do one with her an Yvarine lezzing out because magical realm.

>>54557889
I like the doomsday more is the ghost arks really worth considering?

>>54557892
Command barge is on my radar I dont really like the look of wraiths I think Id rather have praetorians especially with the extra attack

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>>54558137
>yfw

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>he's a primarisbaby
>buying nu-marines right now when they haven't even been fleshed out and are vanilla as fuck and meant for ultratoilets
>not building up a couple more classic marine armies and then going Primaris in 2 years when they have been fleshed out

>>54558104
To be fair these guys were Fielding 3 of them minimum. Some guys had more. It was on some long PDF someone here linked with every list at some tourney. Only saw one necron list that I can remember had troops. He had like 2 groups of Tesla immortals, one with 7 and one with 5 or 6 I think. Just to round out points probably. I don't know if they won or anything tho

>>54557856
Because i am a huge catholic otaku that love mecha and ultra/far-militaristic societies?

Used to love the Imperial Guard only, but after reading all the FW IA and HH stuff about Space Marines i acquired a legit taste for Power Armors. And i HATE TAU

>>54557204

Oh, man, that's even better. Could even claim they're Dark Angels successors and that's why they're so secretive and why no-one ever sees them without helmets (and not because They're All Alpharius)

>mfw Carnac is going to be having an angry poopy rage at the moment
I don't care if it changes, this is so fun.

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>>54558163

>implying I don't already own a 3rd edition daemonhunters army and bought chads because they look like how marines should have always looked
>I haven't been this satisfied with a model purchase in years

>>54558137
probably the same thing my local store is doing

>Blackshirt: Hey! Are you here to participate in the Konor campaign?
>What army are you running
>Chaos? Ok I'll add you to the list, unfortunately we have limited tables so you'll have to wait for a game.

And then the blackshirt never assigns you to a table. Meanwhile xenos and imperial players get priority.

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>>54558137
Looks like I'm gonna have to get back into playing sooner than I expected. Can;t be letting chaos think they have a chance

>>54558163

do you have any idea how many marines I already own?

>>54558184
>have and interesting battles between humans and xenos
>have boring and bland battles between humans/xenos vs mutants with daddy issue

I would do the same. Only edgy kids would play chaos.

>>54558163
>not just using some DI primarines in your existing SM chapter for fun

I do plan on getting a hover tank or two for my custodes, because grav-rhino > space Cadillac.

>>54558119

The role of courts begins and ends with lawfullness, ergo it has no relevence to the discussion at hand.

The emperor wasnt impossible to get ahold of, Magnus just didnt want to waste time going through regulwr channels, as it can takes weeks to years for astropathic messages to get around. The point of the ritual was that it was an instantaneous form of communication

>>54558144

It would have when by decree of the Emperor himself Horus had his authority.

>>54558144
The emperor didn't tell Russ shit. he gave the orders to Horus to pass on, and Horus used his position to change those orders.

Noone qwuestioned them because
a) the sanction for sorcery was announced at nikeae
b)he hwas the goddamned warmaster and noone at that time had reason to disbelieve him

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>>54558163
>building up a couple more classic marine armies
>a couple more

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After the first 12-ish hours of the Konor Campaign, we're seeing the Imperium holding strong.

Overall control of Astaramis is around 65/35 in the Imperium's favour. Chaos just cannot seem yo push through the Imperial lines.

Xenos remain a minimal threat, with many fighting amongst themselves or simply attacking indiscriminately and losing their momentum quickly.

Taking a closer look, we see that all regions are comfortably within Imperial control, with the Praxima Skyport being under repeated heavy attack, while the valiant Imperial defenders hold the line. There are some reports of illness within the defenders ranks, but local authorities are reassuring us here at Konor Newa that everyone is healthy and fighting fit.

The Quintus Gate on the other hand is seeing only skirmishes at most, and the defenders are working day and night to improve defenses.

This has been your Konor campaign update for the first 12 hours.

Have the Iron Hands done anything cool recently?

I know they don't care about them as much as Ultras/Blood Angels but they're my favorites.

>>54558163
To think some people even bothered buying the starter set (some twice) and ended up with poor sculps compared to the multi-box sets being released soon. Imagine having to never use those models again because they're so boring and monopose.

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>>54556563

I built a 2k Grey Knights list to hold me until my book comes out, any thoughts?

The gameplan is a simple one:
>Termies in Boxes
>Gary Stus use psychic to send boxes 9" from the enemy
>Generic Knights then do the same for the characters
>they are meat shields if they fail
>raiders LAS other vehicles
>next turn guys get out within charge range
>termies swing all day everyday
>dreadknight beats off until something needs to be punished