Infinity General - Classic Butts Appreciation edition

>I'd buy the Neoterra starter, the Beyond box directs you towards that sectorial anyway.

Thanks man. I was thinking about buying 3 starters, just to have options and different models for vanila. Later maybe go deeper in to sectorials. At worse I could always proxy models. I also fell in love with two models , the croc man with sniper rifle and the tech bee. I am going to buy them no matter what, but are they also used to play ?

>Souce?
My store does tournaments ever month. last 7 months pan ocenia won 3 of them.

>Epic bait, dude. Well done.
wut?

>>54539824
You're not really going to be winning games because of what faction you picked. Infinity's internal balance is actually pretty decent. You'd be much better off picking a faction based on theme and play style rather than "This one wins". I bet PanOceania wins at your store because it has good players.

>>54540089
>>54539824
Yeah, Powerlevel's pretty much dead even in Infinity between factions. Some just get more or less options in different areas. Your choices matter so much more. A very skilled player can beat a newer one with 2/3rds as many points by positioning, smart planning/list choices and maneuver.

Yes, List choice is a factor. You can't take random stuff and be as capable--- but it's by far not the deciding factor.

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>>54539824
Must have been some newbie tournaments (or good PanO players), because PanO can be strong, but has pretty obvious and glaring weaknesses and is geared toward one tactic: outshooting the other guy.
If they can close the distance, 9 times out of 10 they're fucked. The 1 time is when you're playing nothing but knights.

As for Croc Man and Tech-Bee: Croc is one of the staples, though personally I usually go for either a Hacker or an FO, sometimes Boarding Shotgun, and leave a Nisse to sniping duties. Hexa Sniper is also a good alternative, as Croc has to pay extra for Infiltration, which lets him get close (not really useful for a sniper). But it doesn't mean Sniper Croc is bad.
As for Tech-Bee, she's a must have in a TAG list and she works well with Joan, but otherwise she's simply a super cheap Specialist (you need those to grab objectives). It's a fun piece.

>>54539824
>wut?
We had the same asshole coming here asking about which army was the best win-ratio-wise, and how he would only play the faction that was more or less guaranteed to win.
And then he might go on about playing for money.
Suffice to say, people are sick of that by now.

>>54539824
>Thanks man
Whoa there, that was a joke, I thought you were baiting. Neoterra starter is shit, mediocre at best. If you want actual not-trolly advice:
- PanO in general: Fusiliers box, Auxilia, drones (basic sensor + reaction and the ones with ODD), Black Friar MR (but you've got a Nisse so low priority). There's lots more decent options, those are just the most obvios one that jumped to me (disclaimer, not PanO player).
- vanilla: Crocman combi (or convert a sniper).
- for Neoterra: Auxilia, Hexa sniper to cut down the barrel and make a hacker or Locust, Auxilia HMG (expensive with Swiss tho). Grab the CSU from Beond Red Veil (swap for ABH with a Yu Jing player if needed)

Oh, and if someone offers you a cheap Limited Edition Joan (cheap = less than 200% of a normal blister's price), grab her. It's hands down the best sculpt and it's not available normally.

>>54542575
Also, Neoterra has access to Aleph Devas which are fun, especially with their bots. Because the one thing that sectorial needs is more G: Synchro.

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>>54526583
>>54526619

The first list I think all of your main group orders are going to go into the Intruders or the Tomcat so I would switch the HMG alguacil to another missile launcher. I also don't like the lone wildcat engineer so I would switch that out for Lupe and upgrade the Tomcat to an Engineer.

I don't like the 2nd list too much. What is your 5man link going to do? They only have combi range except for a panzerfaust.

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TAK is coming.

>>54539562
Tunguska should be great can't wait to see their Tag.

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>>54544921
here you go

>>54544921
Is Tunguska's theme gameplay wise already known? Were there any briefings, or maybe hints from the lore?

>>54545028
So fucking sexy.

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>>54545038
Focus on more expensive elite units with the best tech. Heavy hacking. The Holomen unit has people expecting something with holoprojector.

As someone who's super into this setting from the looks and aesthetic so far, how bad/good is either the Ariadna starter 6 pack or the USARiadna starter pack to begin with?

>>54546024
They're fine if you like ariadna.

>>54545028
It's getting redone, I meant the redone version.

>>54542154
Makes sens, I guess. Although I struggle to imagine how someone could play a table top game for money.


thanks for all other people advice.

>>54546024

If you like how the models look then it's fine.

Gameplay wise they are golden.

>>54545156
As an Aleph player, this kind of disappoints me. I was really looking forward to Tunguska.

Why is Shock Marksman Rifle Ayyar worth more points than Rifle Ayyar? Is the Shock Marksman Rifle worth that much more than a DEP and EMitter?

>>54547150
Rifles are dirt cheap when they don't come with light shotguns. A 1 point DEP and 2 point E/Mitter is only enough to bring the price up to equal a standard combi rifle or rifle+LSG.

>>54547120
Is that more or less how AELPH plays? Id find it neat if the anti-AELPH sectoral plays like aelph

>>54547150
That 8-24 range is super worth it. You rarely use the DEP or EMitter, while having the same range band as a Spitfire is awesome.

>>54547350
>>54547440

Hm, sounds like I've been overall trying to get my Ayyar much too close.

God I love those Viral Pistols.

>>54547448
The best thing about Shock Marksman Ayyar is that he costs the same as 3 Naffatun or FO Ghulams.
And who would suspect a group of cheerleaders to be anything but?

I've been wanting to get into the game for awhile now. So I see Tunguska is getting a sectorial so what models should I buy that will work for them? Thanks, my dudes.

>>54547513

Probably Aguacils.

Almost definitely Grenzer.

>>54547513
Grenzer, Interventors, any/all of the remotes, Spektr, Kriza Borac being released in the new Beyond Icestorm pack.

>>54547503
But you can't deploy imitate other models in holoecho lvl 2. Like you can't deploy 3 Ayyar Holoechos as 3 Naffatun

>>54547694

Pretty sure you can. You just have to put a Holoecho marker next to one of them.

>>54547503

Well, all Ayyar have that ability.

>>54547694
You can since HSN3. It's a very niche ability that's poorly explained and complicated as fuck though, so I don't use it and encourage others not to use it as well.

>>54547694
You can 100% pretend to be three other things, but it's only useful before you take your first turn as you have to mark the group as having holos at the start of your first turn.

Don't listen to >>54547795 . It's not that complicated if you already know how holo1 and holo2 work. It is of limited use though.

>>54547513
Definitely grab some remotes(vertigo/reaktion/transductor/stempler box especially), they're going to be golden with interventor support, and they support the interventors as repeaters. Even when facing something like ariadna with nothing hackable you can light up enemy models with spotlight from behind a wall and have the vertigo zond send off smart missiles...that shouldn't be a primary goal, it's just a nice tool to have with all the other cool stuff you can do(like an interventor giving a remote marksmanship lvl 2).

>>54546328
Really? What's the rush, painting it new style makes it look perfectly inline with how the new stuff looks.

>>54547539
Aguacils, that's kinda sad... I'd hope they don't do that, I also hope they don't give them cheap light infantry.

>>54545038
Their new units are mysteriously named and probably will be very different. I really hope Tactical Puppets will be lower-end G:Jumper units.

>>54547694
You can, you'll reveal those on your first turn though. Still good if you start second or for deployment trolling.

>>54548904
Have to fill the points somehow and securitate will almost certainly be on the expensive side.

>>54540089
yeah, asked about the winns more and it looks like it is 2-3 guys who win with different armies. Still I decided to get get in to PanO. Got my Acimento starter, the non sectorial one and the NewTerran one. And because of a promo we have at the store I got the bullter box for 50% price. Also ordered the beyond box, I will be spliting it with the store owner.

Sadly no tech bee at the store :(

>>54549318
Bulleteer box? Top fuckin shit m8. Bulleteers are mean as fuck. Park one in supressive fire after going on a rampage for maximum fuck.

>>54549332
>not running the superior shotgun option

Is WIP 12 sure sign of low intelligence? Like Ajax has it? Does that mean Fraacta are dumb?

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>tfw no crossfaction rules
>you will never see a lost yu-jing samurai teaming up with an aradinan highlander to push back a time-displaced EI

>>54550284
Ajax is confirmed a dumb fuck. Fraacta are rebellious teenage girls who take pride in being as idiotic and reckless as possible.

>>54550460
Cross-faction rules bring cancer, look what happened to Warhammer

>>54550843

I think it could work fine if they did them as full sectorials. Like a Paradisio rapid response medical sectorial with the Aradian rescue troops and the ALEPH doctors, working together to get civilians and injured out. Or a Nomad Perfidy team that can use PanO remotes and TAGs because they've compromised the security of them. Or an illegal street race zooming through an operation with access to most of the Motorcycle troops from factions.

We already have a few sectorials with very limited access. The main thing is about preventing unrestricted grabbing like Warhammer did and keeping them with a theme.

>>54550460
OMFG, you've got Mercenary rules for that. Just ask your opponent to be able to use Saito Togan in CHA and then you can even do it in Army Builder.

Plus secotorials have cross faction unit rules like Alguaciles in QK/FRRM, Dakini in ISS or DEVAS in NCA.

>>54550460
There were merc armies in previous editions.
Nobody played them and they weren't particularly balanced.

>>54550779
So, just like USAdriana.

>>54550136
Shotguns are for Peacemakers. Bulleteers need to hose bullets.

>>54551752
Yeah, up close! Then you dominate the hackerspace with one fusilier and it's repeater.

New player here, I just got the mercenary annaconda and I noticed she's not Availible in the army builder, is there a reason for that?

>>54552103
She's only available for MRRF, and CHA (For now). Mercenaries are only available for specific factions but not necessarily all: for example, Major Lunah is available in Vanilla Yu Jing and ISS, but not JSA

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>>54550460
They just need to add McMurrough to Aristeia.

Isn't Strikezone Wotan supposed to be over by now? Are we still able to post Batreps?

>>54552615
Makes sense, thanks!

>>54553045
I think they closed it during Monday.

>>54552718
McMurrough never was big for showmanship. I don't think Dogfaces excel in official Aristeia! circles, not enough control and injuries and deaths are bad for business unless compensated by something.

>>54556212
I dunno, one of the quotes given for Lunah was from McMurrough. It was a bunch of growling, but still.

Actually, is there any indication that Dog Warriors cannot talk? I know the manga authors wanted Domovoi to talk in Dog form, but were shot down, but there's nothing in the RPG saying that Dog Warriors lose the ability to talk after transforming, just that they get a penalty to Personality tests (aside from Intimidation).
Considering that McMurrough is now permanently Dog Warrior, not being able to talk would come across as a rather big difficulty for his merc life. But then again humans somehow hire out Krakots.

>>54556504
I imagine he had to relearn how to speak inteligibly, what with not having people lips anymore. But if birds can mimic human speach you can teach a mog the same tricks. Probably still incomprehensible what with the accent an all.

>>54556504
>ot being able to talk would come across as a rather big difficulty for his merc life.
Isn't another of the most famous mercenaries in this setting mute?

Attempting to build a list that can hit other armies hard without caring too much about objectives, hoping to win by forcing the enemy to die or retreat. Still pretty new and garbage at the game so feel free to tell me how awful this is, without telling me to copy/paste online lists. I refuse to do so.

300 Points, 6 SWC

Group 1:

Keisotsu (HMG)
Keisotsu (ML)
Keisotsu (FO)
Keisotsu (FO)
Kempeitai (CoC, Boarding Shotgun)
O-Yoroi
Oniwaban
Raiden (HRL, Mines)

Group 2:

Aragoto (CR + LS)
Asuka (LT)
Yojimbo
Keisotsu (Paramedic)

How bad of an idea is this?

>>54556992
Le Muet is only "mute" to his own people, because he can't communicate via pheromones. But he can still talk.

>>54557006
You have plenty of hammer...
Basically that looks like you wanted to make both TAG list and bike list. I have yet to see the latter done well, but I can give some advice. Basically the second group is starved. Almost every model need orders to be effective, which mean you would underutilize the rest while zooming with singular bike.

TAGs need support. Repeat after me. TAGs need support. Some kind of hacker and engineer are good to have (though the latter is less effective with manned TAGs), when things go south.

And I'm not sure Asuka is that good lt choice, even with CoC.

Basically I'd say choose some element you want to focus to, scrap some pieces and focus on supporting those you chose.

>>54557526
Well I really like the TAG, so I can focus on that. Like I said I am still new to the game, so I can understand some points like an engineer being useful for repairing the TAG, but why exactly is a JSA hacker good support for the TAG? Counter-hacking? I'm honestly not sure and I don't know nearly enough about hacking to know.

As a revision, I was thinking of dropping Asuka, Paramedic and Aragoto for Oyama (LT) and 2 Tokusetsus (One doctor and one engineer, both with a Yaozao). I still run into the problem with groups though. I'm at 12 orders, and don't know what to do to avoid having 2 orders in a second group. Should the groups be split evenly with 6 in each, or should I try to add more expensive models to keep a single group of 10?

>>54557695
hackers are among the more dangerous things that can take down a TAG. They can immobilize it, isolate it, and even possess it if they try. You definitely want hacker support to counter enemy hackers.

One reason Nomad players love the Iguana so much is because it carries its own repeater... any hackers that go after that thing have to deal with Nomad hackers attacking through the Iguana's repeater.


Keisotsu's can be cheap and make good order filler. I wouldn't repeat the same specialist in a fireteam (for example, your two FOs in your first list) and any you take as filler should be using the base profile to be as cheap as possible.


Always maximize at least one combat group. Any "leftover" pieces in your second group should be support pieces that aren't going to soak up your orders.

>>54557695
It's better to have one main group and one reactive/trash group. Like Raiden probably doesn't need that many orders per turn to be at least somewhat effective, so he and some rando can sit aside.

Hacking is good to have because TAGs are so vulnerable to it. Even KHD is okay if you can kill or push back enemy hackers with it. If your TAG is possessed, you have to either use command token to get it back (at the beginning of next active turn) or excorcize with regular hacking device. As last measure even Assault hacking devices can possess it back (but yiu have a possessed TAG with all the negative stuff that come with it).

And if you plan to play ITS, hackers are strongly recommended, because so many classifieds can be done with them.

>>54557695
>>54558025

And I wanna add one more thing to what I've already said.

The O-Yoroi has martial arts, which grants stealth. Its the only TAG with both of these and that's a huge deal! Stealth means you can walk into a hacker's ZoC and avoid generating an ARO as long as you don't declare an attack action or are within LoF. This is really good during your active turn!

>>54553943
You can still use it as a proxy, which is a primary purpose for that model imo.

>>54550843
It's fine if it goes the 40K way - there for fluff and fuckabouts, banned from serious play.

>>54550875
Those are pretty cool, though I'd probably toss in Daktari and Knights Hospitalliers.

EI with converted (forcibly or otherwise) units as cannon fodder, Tau-style convertees to Tohaa.

I'd actually enjoy a Paradiso "sectorial" that amounts to "every faction ever".

>>54552081
That's why it's better on Peacemaker, because it's already upfield and has an Auxbot.

>>54556212
I thought injuries were part and parcel with Aristeia! circles? I mean, I know it's expected in the ones Sports Crime infiltrate, but Nomads were always less strict on violence, or at least, it feels like that.

>>54556504
Dog Soldiers or Antipodes (or whatever the term for the werewolves are)?

>>54558532
*laughing ODD*

Hey, would it make sense to take USAradinan sectorials and refluff them to be Earth American forces, given how technologically fucked and hardscrabble the country became? I imagine them reverting to 20th/early-21st century tech both out of fear of the tech that lead them into the disaster in the first place and out of necessity.

Heck, I could see USAriadna covertly funding Earth-US forces after realizing they have nothing to do with the realpolitik that made Ariadna all angry militia.

>>54558592
I guess they prefer the kind of injuries that look nasty, but aren't crippling. Like how you need to be good player to play an instrument enjoyably badly, you'd need to be really good fighter to take down your opponent in a way that looks nasty but doesn't harm your opponent.

Then you'd have street level and underground Aristeia! circles, where everything goes and you can have literal death matches.

>>54558701
Not much. The America proper in the fluff doesn't have standing army and the USAdriana is kind o its own thing. And they don't have the resources to do some interstellar military campaign, the only reason you see Ariadnans in the rest of the Sphere is because O-12 likes to have them around as cannon fodder.

>>54558701
>>54558792
Heck, Haqqislam would make more sense for that.

>>54557006
Replace one Keisotsu FO with Yuriko Oda (not sure where should you take off the points. Her minelayer ability works well with the Raiden, since mines are camo markers.

>>54558025
>>54558158
>>54558162
I see, and I took a quick glance at the Hacking programs as well and it makes quite a bit of sense why I should have at least one. Thanks for the tips. I made another quick list here to see if I'm getting the picture.

299 Points, 6 SWC

Group 1:

Keisotsu (HMG)
Keisotsu (ML)
Keisotsu (Paramedic)
Keisotsu (FO)
Kempeitai (CoC, Boarding Shotgun)
O-Yoroi
Oniwaban
Oyama (LT)
Ninja (Killer Hacking Device)
Yojimbo

Group 2:
Raiden (HRL, Mines)
WARCOR

This should be more aggressive while also being able to neutralize threats to the TAG with the ninja. Like mentioned, I like to use Raiden as an ARO piece so I have him in group 2 with a warcor that can ARO with Flash Pulse. Yojimbo can use the orders to advance with smokes to help Oyama and the TAG begin their assault while the fireteam gets into position to rain some damage. I assume that the HMG is good for those 5 shots on attack and the ML for the 2 shots on ARO.

I find it difficult to fit in more support like engineers or doctors, but I feel that it can be somewhat covered by the fireteam paramedic and the Ninja backing the TAG up. This is meant to be more of an all-in list anyways.

>>54558891
I really want to use Oda, because of that potential BS 18 Panzerfaust and Mines but I can't figure out where to put the point for it. I figure maybe I could make a second, more control-oriented list that involves Oda? Should I sack a special weapon Keisotsu and the chain of command for her?

>>54558808
On some level, yeah. I can see the more fundie/neocon/ultraorthodox factions of Haqqislam supply Iran and Saudi Arabia with funding, troops, training, etc. (especially if the Saudi families managed to stay politically relevant up to the evacuation and colonization and through it), but I get the feeling there's also big chunks of Haqq that despite Saudi Arabia.

(If we're talking about the Americans and NASA who helped form Haqq, I doubt they'd be fond of funding what amount to ultranationalist militia yahoos)

>>54558792
It could work for 90s-style Militiamen, in the same vein that a lot of militia have some kind of ex-military or ex-cops with them.

>>54559031
The way I see it this would be some private operator, a bored billionaire that wants to fund burger proper because he's 1/32 american and feels like a proper patriot. So you could justify almost any human faction, Ariadnans just lack the assets.

>>54558728
In top-tier Aristeia circles fighters have entire banks of cloned organs, and possibly even back-up lhosts, to come back from "fatal" injuries. Fluff even has Wild Bill being hospitalised being no huge drama (beyond that of "is he past his prime?").

>>54558959
Don't rely on the Keisotsu paramedic to actually revive your troopers... its a PH - 3 roll on the trooper taking the medkit. A doctor is always better.
Don't discount the paramedic as a specialist, but don't rely on it as a "paramedic" per se.


My only recommendation for this list is to move the Ninja to group 2 IF you deploy the ninja in hidden deployment AND if you plan to use the Ninja for late game stuff. You'd have to spend a command token to move it over but you get to start with 10 orders in group one, and your opponent won't notice that you're an order short in your big combat group...

>>54559125
Resurrections are still regulated and "can hit good" isn't necessarily good enough reason for ALEPH to authorize the process.

>>54559134
>he doesn't heal troops at max range on regular basis
Fusilier paramedic has won me many games.

>>54559031
>the more fundie/neocon/ultraorthodox factions
The entire point of Haqq was to ditch those niggers on Earth.

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>>54559313
Why do one of you /pol/tards always appear when we're talking about Haqqislam?

you killed my vibe, anon! you killed my vibe!

>>54559392
He's right, though. Haqqislam went to space because conservatives were a hassle and they decided to move instead.

>Khawarij
>Zhayedan
>Tuaregs
>Fasid
>Maghariba
Are they all supposed to be for Ramah Taskforce? I need to know what color scheme to paint them.

>>54559313
>>54559392
>>54559437
I hate to sound /pol/. but even the most liberal of ideologies can have some kind of deal that's the opposite - for example, yurops are pretty big on socialized healthcare and supporting the poor, but bring in immigrants and everyone gets super fucking racist. Even before Stalin, Lenin and a few of the other revolutionaries held grudges against minorities and tried to wipe them out.

Don't forget the fact that someone, somewhere IS going to hold a grudge against Western anti-islam ideologies, or even continuing the grudge against Israel and any states that supported them. There ARE ultra-left who wholeheartedly support Palestinian nationalism and Hamas/Hezbollah/fundie groups opposing Israel, just as there are ultra-left who support Trump because "he pisses mainstream liberals/leftists off" and shit on the White Helmets and Peacekeeping factions in Syria.

There's also always the possibility of sleeper cells and some idiot fanning tensions over by bringing in neo-Qutbism/Wahabism.

I discussed a while back about the fact Haqq is separate from Islam-majority governments on Earth, and the possibility of representing Earth jihadis/neo-Saudi/neo-Malaysia/neo-Moro groups - I still imagine PanO having issues with Filipino commies AND Southern islamists/separatists.

>>54560899
(barring the fact the saudi family could undergo a huge liberal change at some point in the future - I mean, the Malaysian royal family's son mocks fundies who bitch at him for "not greeting women properly" and iirc he went after people who demand niqabs/hijabs me mandatory)

>>54559392
Read the Quran.

You'll find "Haqqislam" ("true Islam") is just modern Islam. It is a religion for a strong culture of conquerors, not humanism or egalitarianism, or any other wet-dream projection you may have.

A nice idea for a faction, but more unrealistic than Tech-Bees.

>>54562138

>religions never adapt and change to the times

It's like you think the modern world was made last week.

Then again you are a troll. Feel free to make another post to back-up your point, you might catch another (You).

>>54562295
Dude, don't feed the /pol/.

>>54562295
I'd love more of (Me). Less Islam, and less apologetics of it from the dhimmi, would also be a lovely garnish.

>>54562138
Yawn, take your bs back to pol.
Your kind aren't wanted here.

>>54562759

When I throw in a dismissive ending, they tend to panic and play their BIG TROLL card. In this way, I prove that they are in fact a troll and not just someone with a severe misunderstanding of the world. Through this I discourage other well-meaning fa/tg/uys from engaging the troll.

As you can see, I have been successful. The troll is starving. It is desperate for the (You) that nourish its existence. Soon it will be forced to retreat to /pol/ for the rest of the season, to gather its strength before trying to leave its home again.

SOOO, who's in Interplanetario?

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We Eclipse Phase now.

Hey Infinity thread, so I posted this in the 40k thread...
>Sup /tg/, I have had issues with 40k as a game for quite some time and upon reflection I have boiled it down to three main issues:
> * There are little in game tactical decisions that help you win or lose (with most games coming down to list building and deployment.
> * The crunch does not reflect the fluff very well if at all.
> * The fluff is getting more and more kid-friendly with less humor and gritty grimdark.
> I have gotten to the point where I have converted and collected the models that interest me within the 40k universe and have decided that it is time to move on, does anyone have suggestions for my next game system?
... and I got no intelligible response out of them, just weird Pol related convos and shitposting so I thought why not pass the message to another, hopefully, more intelligent bunch of dudes. So what do you guys think?

>>54566245
Well, Infinity is not for everybody. The balance is ok, but some people are turn off by the probabilities, that is, some bad rolls can cost your game. Usually it evens out, though. Makes things interesting and you have to adabt to the new situation.

Tactics matter and often you have so many options that it's hard to choose. Relatively strong reactive fire means you should stick to cover and pick your fights. Only after tremendous bad luck, bad play or bad list you find that there is nothing you can do.

Models and style divide people, some like it, some don't, some think it's too "generic" (I've found out that this is a codeword for "it's not 40k"). If you like 80's anime you probably find some design elementsbyou like.

The rules can be hard to learn at first, but after the initial hurdle it gets easier. I've played years and I still need to check something in nearly every game. But the rules are free and armybuilder work, so givebit a try. Start with the quicj start rules, they cover the basic mechanics.

>>54566385
The models interest me and give me a chance to work on my NMM but at the heart of it I am looking for a game where list and deployment aren't as, or at least only just as, important as in game decision making. Is that true for infinity?

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>>54539824
Best thing to do with the Sniper Croc is just clip the barrel so it's shorter and say it's a Combi Rifle.

As you can see they look very similar.

>>54566430
It is, to a degree. There are no auto-win lists, but there are auto-lose ones (mostly boils down to having a good balance of order hungry and cheerleaders units). Faction tiers are not about raw strength, but ease of play and win with. But you should be good to go with anything that is not Shasvastii sectorial.

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>>54566430
Deployment is very important, but even in the deployment phase you're playing the game.

There is something called "Hidden Information" in this game. Models that deploy without anything placed, characters placed on the board as numbered tokens, mines placed on the board as numbered tokens indistinguishable from characters, dudes waiting in orbit to drop down to the battlefield, and even your complete army list are not given to your opponent.

You deploy all but one of your dudes, the enemy does the same, then you both deploy your last dude. At this point you hand over a "courtesy list" that list all open information.

By the end of deployment you've already laid traps for your opponent depending on how aggressive your faction can deploy.

From there it's all about completing game objectives while delaying your opponent from completing theirs, assassinating key pieces, and essentially playing a puzzle against your opponent.

What faction you like the look of? You can get a full army for less than 200 bucks as long as it's not Ariadna and maybe Haqqislam.

>>54566430
Well, terrible list and terrible deployment ruins the game most of the time, if that's what you mean. I'd say deployment is often more important of the two, especially if your opponent tries to alpha strike you into oblivion.

There isn't optimal lists (I don't usually play the same list twice), but there are ways to make suboptimal lists. You should keep on mind, what the scenario(s) will be and what your opponent can throw at you (you should have some answer to most common tricks), but other than that the list building aspect is pretty free. Even if you fail in matchmaking, you can usually whip out something to try out at the fly.

>>54566566
Yeah, if you paint it pitch black and don't highlight a thing.

>>54566647
>>54566651
>>54566664
Thanks for the responses guys, after watching some game play Infinity seems significantly less weighted in the favor of deployment and list then 40k so that's a plus.
I'm thinking about doing nomads because I have so much grimdark that I want to go and do something crazy with them.

>>54540933
Do you have the artist or full pic? For, uh, Paradiso.

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Working on my Grey Rifle.

>>54566245
> * There are little in game tactical decisions that help you win or lose (with most games coming down to list building and deployment.
This is something Infinity does really well. As long as your list is decent, the decisions you make during the game are what really matter. The lack of hard counters and things requiring hard counters is also nice. Deployment and list building are still important to an extent, but they don't win games like 40k.

> * The crunch does not reflect the fluff very well if at all.
Infinity has rather limited fluff in regards to military units and weapons and it tends to be based on the crunch, so there isn't that much to fuck up.

> * The fluff is getting more and more kid-friendly with less humor and gritty grimdark.
Infinity is a different style. It's far more optimistic than 40k, though it has its fair share of horrible shit being done by all the factions. PanO shits on the poor and bullies anyone who gets in its way, Yu Jing oppresses the Japanese and turns political dissidents into mindraped walking bombs (and the Japanese have their own issues), Haqqislam puts on a nice front but regularly deals with slavers and "frees" them into compulsory military service, Ariadna are angry savages who act like a third world country, Nomads basically let you do whatever atrocities you want in your hab so long as you pay rent, ALEPH is an extremely untrustworthy robot that likes to quietly kill off people who annoy it, Tohaa are using the entirety of humanity as a meatshield against the Combined Army, and CA itself is a big expansionist empire that is willing to sacrifice anything in the quest for Transcendence.

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>>54566704
Nomads are a great faction, but a word of warning. Nomad's strength is completing the objectives efficiently while annoying the fuck out of your opponent. While they do have some good killer tricks they are not a highly offensive army.

Steel Phalanx: Kill your enemies before they complete objectives then take objectives.
Pano: Shoot stuff early then lay down strong covering fire that keeps your opponents away from objectives
Yu Jing: The "I can do everything" faction where their dudes are multi-role.
Haqq: The "I can do everything" faction where they have a bunch of cheaper dudes with singular roles.
Ariadna: Dude spam and token shenanigans
Nomads: Network of hackers making enemy heavy infantry and tags hate life, glass cannons, useful drop troops, and Deadpool+his gang banger buddies.

>>54566876
So I take it that Nomads are the oddball faction, what kind of tricks can I expect? What is psychology like in Infinity?

>>54566818

Love all that battle damage!

>>54566822
>ALEPH is an extremely untrustworthy robot that likes to quietly kill off people who annoy it

t. deviant Nomad

>>54566905

Most armies are fairly generalist and have good units for every scenario.

Personally, what stands out to me w/ Nomads is that they have a lot of really solid dudes.

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Infinity/N3_Tactics/Nomads

Since you are looking specifically for crazy check out:

Bakunin Uberfallkommando

and

Die Morlock Gruppe

>>54566905

Psychology seems overall really friendly. I play with my friends so we premeasure (you can't do that RAW) but the people we've talked to seemed to be really cool guys. I don't think the audience is large enough to have assholes and the rulebook tends to encourage people to be nice, including informing opponents of potential actions that they can take to fuck you up.

>>54567063
I mean like leadership or morale in warhammer.

>>54567103

Oh, yeah it's pretty non-existant.

There are Guts rolls when you get shot but when you fail your dude just moves 2" or goes prone. Can be shitty in tactical situations but not full SQUAD BROKEN.

SQUAD BROKEN does exist. It auto triggers when your army is at 25% strength but even then there are dudes who ignore it. Also it's really rare for your army to be at 25% strength and not already be an objective loss.

Alright lads, thanks for the input, I am going to start a mutant army using Morlocks, and Bakunin as a base and convert from there. Will post updates as time goes on!

>>54566822
iirc, PanO and Haqq also regularly deal with fundies (if I'm not mistaken, Yu-Jing also has to deal with them, albeit to a lesser extent - I do imagine Myanmar-style Buddhist terrorists), Nomads also deal with fundies (given that a chunk of their population are religious cults and fanatics that would be shut down by ALEPH) and are basically horseshoe theory in action, with constant fighting between TERFs, tankies, alt-right, Stalinists/Maoists, black blocs, etc

iirc there are chunks of Tohaa that geniunely want to help humanity, chunks of it that think they're a useful tool to uplift, chunks of it that view them as meatshields, and chunks of it that fucking want to go Covenant on them

Also, all factions regularly recruit heinous criminals - Ariadna's desperadoes are bad people (but are even worse than the AmerInd and criminal gangs they're hired to fight against), Haqq regularly hires raider-biker gangs, as does Yu-Jing (bozusoku, etc)

I'd go so far as to say Yu-Jing oppresses anyone who isn't Chinese, and I wouldn't be surprised if the East Asians who AREN'T the big three of Japan, China, and Korea get even more of the short stick - Filipinos who didn't side with PanO, Hong Kongers/Macau/Taiwanese, Mongolians, Tibetians, Nepali, Bhutanese, various non-Han ethnic groups, Viets, Singaporeans, etc.

>>54567401
Haqqislam also has Bashi Bazouks!

God damn I love those maniacs

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>>54567420
>Bashi Bazouks
Tintin Warcor when?

>>54567242
Awesome. Riot Grrls are your friend, it's good to either Core or Haris them. Play with generic Nomads a few games until you understand what I just said and then switch to pure Bakunin.

>>54544337
I'm just using models I own, which is why I'm not using 2 missile launchers, I was gonna use the tomcat as a table edge annoyance and to shoot people hiding in buildings.
And for the second list I was planning on breaking the link team once I got them up the board for objectives, but I honestly dont get enough play to build a decent list.

>>54567454

Just wait until the audience gets large enough for crazy modders.

>>54550284
Considering the Fraacta regimental credo is basically "Yolo" that's pretty accurate. Luckily, though they are dumb, Fraacta are also tough as shit, so they've got that going for them.

>>54558792

It's not so much cannon fodder as Ariadnans hate everyone who's not Ariadnan pretty much equally so they can be counted on to not be corrupt.

I actually imagine they hate other Ariadnans more. "Damn Caledonians... they ruined Caledonia!"

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>>54550779
>>54567640
>rebellious spunky tomboy ayy lmaos who dress in vaguely demonic red-and-black armour to crash peoples' parties and break all their shit

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When you get triggered during the interplanetario

>>54567774
Spain is hot and humid.

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>>54559244
Source: My ass.
"Aristeia!", pg. 297, "Do you want to know more?", Human Sphere N3 Guide Book

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What is the best way to use the Ayyar in a general Haqq list? Used him a few times but he has usually taken out some HI then died after, is this a good way to use him or am I doing it all wrong?

>>54565648
IJW/Wargaming Trader, Phlyk. Dunno if i003 is there this year.

>>54567824

If he takes out an HI then he's doing his job. The dude is 37-39 points, most HI are around that or higher. I'm assuming you are using the DEP version so I can see him getting popped after taking out a guy.

Consider trying to facilitate his escape w/ smoke grenades.

Also, remember that Hassassins do not fear death so long as the mission is accomplished.

Are you reactivating his Holoprojector whenever you can?

>>54567824
How much expensive should Ayyar be?

>>54552081
>dominate the hackerspace with one fusilier
Please play against a real faction some day.

Reporting from interplanetario, aristeia is plastic, confirmed

>>54556504
There's a bit of fluff where McMurrough finds out his transformation is permanent, and speaks Swahili to a Daktari.

>>54567401
>>54567420
I forgot the fact that one of the Yu Jing units are basically special forces/assassin cops who get airdropped into really badlands bandit territory for their final exam and win by making it out alive, and it's got something like a 14% survival rate or something.

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I've got for you a picture of bostria shirtless

>>54568518
You know, given Praxis' ultra-hardcore genemods, I'm surprised he wouldn't just sign up to one if he was desperate enough to transform back.

I thought Antipodes could switch at will, anyway?

>>54568986
Reported for unadequate behaviour.
We do not like this stuff here.

>>54568444
I mean, Giraldez wasn't allowed to say what they were made of, and Mayanet IIR made a mention of it.

>>54567824
Most people use it as a button pusher and someone who surprise shots L2 some fools with the Shock Marksman profile. Frankly he's got a lot of uses.

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Hey, what are some good minis to convert to Pupnik units? I know about 40K/Warhammer Beastmen and Sslyth, and possibly using Xenomorphs or 'nids if we wanna go the super-alien pupniks in the vein of the concept art.

>>54569016
The mutant humans are dogfaces, not antipodes. Antipodes are proper aliens, they don't transform.
Dogfaces normally transform when they get worked up or hurt, and then turn back when they calm down. But McMurder is stuck in doggo mode permanently because of some Hassassin fuckery.

>>54568986
hot

>>54565815

We *seaQuest DSV* now, you uncultured motherfucker.

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>>54568986
That's so close to my own body type it's distracting.

>>54569227
We Johnny Mnemonic now, you philistine invertebrate.

>>54569282
I wonder if Bakunin gets its dolphins addicted to smack. Seems like the kind of thing those crazy fucks would do.

Apparently the seminar's going on right now? Anyone got a stream link?

>>54545028
Who painted that thing?

>>54566818
Sweet man.

>>54569244
Why is the spaniard man looking at the female models butt?

>>54568986
Unf

What a hunk

Hello.

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>>54569918
Is it me you're looking for?

>>54568222
He killed the opposing hackera with brainblast and drove the other in hiding. Don't mess with 'Stach!

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Corvus Belli is proudly displaying their life sized Dick, Ball, and...

>>54571246
OMG I hate this kind of covert advertisement. the most ridiculous thing about is the ridiculous catchy pun in the end...

>>54571350
I was not aware I made a pun, please explain?

I believe this information is actually from the Opening Ceremony Q&A, since the official Bostria Seminar is tomorrow. We will probably get more details and other info then.

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>>54571769
Man I am retarded.

>>54571794
Wonder why it would take so long to just make a KHD profile for like Malignos or something.

Do they intend a whole new unit?

>>54572053
I want one for Zerats, it would fit them pretty well. But then again I want a lot of things for Zerats and I'm never getting any of them, so yeah Malignos might be more realistic.

>>54571144
Is this as the Interplanetario?
And how big is this thing really?... I can't get a full grasp of the scale in this shot.

>>54572131
I think zerats could afford to have more cool specialist or hacking profiles. Morats could definitely use them for their only infiltrator..

>>54572280
KHD would be a nice start, but Zerats could do with a full overhaul desu. Stealth is long overdue, better guns (heavy flamer instead of light, E/M grenade launcher instead of E/Mitter, maybe even a marksman rifle) could compensate for the lack of camo, and MSV1 would be very nice to make them worth considering for infiltrator hunting. Right now they're by far the worst infiltrators in the game, only ever taken because MAF has no better options. Them trying to compete with Shasvastii in vanilla is just a worse version of the Yaogat/Maakrep comparison.

>>54572542
Agreed. They get the job done for a button pusher but I also find them to be lacking in the MORAT AGGRESSION department...

>>54571794
>Daofei belongs to the white banner sectorial
We already knew that, it's a duh-doy from its army logo that's like the Guilang.
>Invincible Army for 2018
Nice to see a due date that's likely ignored (jk)
>No KHD for CA
I'm ok with this. Not my circus, not my monkeys.

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>>54572659
better finish painting my military orders so I can jump on the other power armor army when it drops!

>>54572659
In regards to IA, what is actually confirmed except for the Terracottas and Tiger Soldiers?
The Guijia is White Banner right?

>>54572771
>The Guijia is White Banner right?
shouldn't be. Doesn't make a ton of sense thematically, nor does its banner suggest that. In fact, just from banners, we can pretty safely assume the following are IA:
- Zuyong
- Yan Huo
- Guijia
- Shang Ji (probably most likely to get rules and model revamp)
- Sun Tze of some form
- Tiger

The Hac Tao banner shares similarities with both IA and ISS banners, but Zuyong 5-man + Hac Tao might be a bit much.

>>54572771
Terracotta, Yan Huo, Shang Ji, all the remotes, Tiger Soldiers from dossiers from Red Veil, "possibly" three Zhanshi but the rest is varying levels of "possibly" disregarding new units likely to be introduced.

White Banner's more of a fleshed out pseudo-sectorial between Shaolin Monks, Guilang, Daofei, (Hac Tao?, Tiger Soldiers?) and Zhanshi

>>54572837
>>54572830
So basically it's Chinese Morats with the best AD troopers in the game?
I can live with that. I thought for sure that the Dao Fei would be IA.
From what I can see they lack any sort of tricks. Almost said no MSV2 to boot but then I remember Yu Ying has the filthiest remotes.

>>54558959
> I assume that the HMG is good for those 5 shots on attack and the ML for the 2 shots on ARO
Keisotsu are not very reliable, as they're only BS13 even in a full group, but that's about what you're stuck with if you want orders for your O-Yoroi.

As the other anon stated, you've got a bit of inefficiency there. Both the Ninja and Oniwaban are presumably in hidden deployment, so you'll want to swap at least one of them to the 2nd pool or else it's too obvious to the opponent that you have hidden deployment. You're also only starting with 7 regular orders on turn 1 (2 hidden, 1 irregular/extremely impetuous), which is on the low side.

>>54573062
Dirty tricks could be set up with new units, I can imagine a new "Korean" unit (like a rumored AD HI that was playtested) or Blue Wolves light TAGs, and it's possible a ninja or something less expected can sneak up in there.

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So I'm planning on giving the RPG a run for a one shot soon, since I've got my core rulebook PDF. My plan for a plot:

PCs are all Bureau Noire agents, from various factions originally. Mission briefing is that there's a group of rather powerful humans planning on going quisling to the Combined Army, with one recently making the news after a rather public Hassassin execution of them. The problem? The "traitors" are all actually Bureau Noire agents, intending to fake their defection to try and get what intel they can on the CA before they're discovered/sepitorized/killed.

The team's sent undercover as a team of mercenaries, who'll be protecting the quislings from further attacks. Of course, after the big speech about how in the field, they aren't PanOceanian/Ariadnian/Nomads/etc, only Bureau agents, they'll all get contacted by their faction superiors with secret missions. And of course, one of them is almost certainly a Hassassin in disguise, with one of the "traitors" being an actual traitor they have to kill.

What do people think? Any glaring lore issues? My main concern is regarding the whole idea of faking a defection against the CA, and how that'd work. Would they need fake backup cubes or something? Worse come to worse I make up some super secret high-tech that the agents had available to make it work.

>>54573062
>From what I can see they lack any sort of tricks.
Pretty much, although 5-man zuyong with HMG, ML, and 1 or 2 specialists (not to mention 10 wounds) would run about 156 points and 3-4 SWC (depending on whether or not you put in a Lt), so that's fairly nice.

Conversely, no Celestial Guard or Kuang shi means shittier order pools and lack of smoke cover, which will be an interesting problem.

>>54573142
Blue Wulves and that shit is for White Banner.

>>54573208
Yeah, it might be interesting but they seem SWC heavy and currently have nothing but door kickers and heavy weapons.

>>54573204
I like it. The only question i have is sepsitorization detectable? Having back ups isnt a problem, its whether or not the returning agents are the same people coming back and match those back ups.

>>54572830
Hac Taos probably also won't be in IA because they are the direct action units of Yu Jing's intelligence agency. They would fit in the gameplay theme of IA as amazing HI ass kickers, but in terms of fluff they are completely separate from the military and probably aren't normally deployed along with a front line unit like the IA. They will probably get put into White Banner instead.

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>>54573576
Well, I figure they'd be sending info back, with actually returning with it being a distant secondary objective - but it's a good point. I think it should be detectable on examining the cube, at least, since it works off corrupting that.

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Is posting on /tg/ in the table of "be bostria for a day" bein bostria for a day un god Mode?

>>54573737
No entiendo

Any other pics of the life size tik?

>>54573934
>squidbird bostria

I enjoy this more than i should, must be tired.

If you could wear a suit or uniform from Infinity just for looks (for example your Swiss Guard Armor won't be functional in adaptive camouflage and protection beyond letting you wear it without discomfort), which would you want to wear?

>>54574532
Just for looks? CSU, for sure

Homeboy stylin

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>>54574563
>nice, functional and comfortable siut
>stylish jacket with tasteful houndstooth lining
>scarf for flair

This guy is the best dressed man in the infinity universe

>>54574532
Guilang. Nice coat, plus an optional cool helmet depending on how suspicious I want to look.

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>>54574641

I'm gonna need you to stop right there, kiddo.

>>54575095
Al fasid is boss

But decidedly not fashionable enough for my taste

>>54571794
>include CA KHD in printed book
>"hey guide you don't mind waiting 2 years for the actual KHD? In the meantime we'll release it on a cheap merc that everyone except you can have"
Fuck you, CB.

>>54572659
>I'm ok with this
grabisz sobie

>>54575666
>Acheron falls 2016

>>54575882
Acheron will never fall, as PanO saved the Humanity.

So I know most of the Philippines went to PanO, with the Muslim-majority South going to Haqq, and Malaysia most likely going Haqq. Where would Vietnam, Singapore, Indonesia, Timor, PNG, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Cambodia, and Brunei fit?

I figure Singapore could either go PanO OR Yu-Jing, since they have ties to countries that make up both, or be neutral. Given Vietnam's hate for China, wouldn't they rather go to PanO?

Also, what happened to Taiwan?

>>54576416
Pretty much all those countries are in Yu Jing now. Remember Yu Jing incorporated Japan despite Japan and China getting along about as well as two Caledonians. oldChina managed to incorporate the majority of East-Asia when a massive economic depression hit and they bailed out their governments in exchange for incorporation into Yu Jing. I hope we eventually get some more diverse Yu Jing units, right now it is all Japanese of Chinese themed. Bostria has mentioned them playtesting a Tibetan sniper unit and an AD dropping Korean HI unit at times, but nothing has come of it yet.

>>54576556
>you will never play Vietnamese Yu-Jing stealth special forces waging a guerrilla war against USAriadnan troops, receiving support from Ariadnan KGB

It ain't me.

Weren't there plans for a Tibetan/Shaolin sectorial?

>you will never have a Yu Jing civil war
>Shaolin vs. Wu-Tang

>>54576812
Pretty sure Shaolins and a possible Tibetan sniper unit will be put into White Banner Army, they fit decently well there.

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8-Ball is bigger than I expected

>>54577185
>PROPRIETY DICE

>>54577305
what's wrong anon?
t. FFG

>>54577185
TELL ME YOUR SECRETS, SPANIARD!

Seminar won't be streamed.

>>54578200
As long as someone posts the news as its going we should be good.

>>54578082
TELL ME ABOUT SENOR MASSACRE! WHY DOES HE WEAR THE MASK?

>>54578569
Or perhaps he's wondering why you would shoot a man, before throwing him out of a scoring zone?

Doing we have an update in the interplanetario tournament standings?

gamenerdz is having a small sale today. Notably, the Fat Yuan Yuan box is for just 16 dollars and the Zerat two-blister is for nine.

>>54578893
Your... your him!
If I take that off, will you die?

>>54580017
It would be extremely boring.

>>54579991
Thanks for the heads up anon. I have a friend who is starting Morats and I'll probably pick up the fat yaun yaun box

>>54579991
Actually been on sale for a week or two, who knows how much longer they'll keep it up there.

>cave and buy the F¥¥
>not even a week later it goes up on sale
JUST

>>54576416
Bangkok is independant but crime infested.
Mentioned in older fluff

>>54539562
more ass and women with tentacles for hair please.

besides the combi rifles which weapon is the most often used on fusilier? Sniper rilfe maybe ?

>>54580971
HMG and Missile Launcher, easily. Everything the Multisniper Rifle is good at, the Missile's better.

>>54580971
>>54580985
Both are good for defensive links, but in vanilla I tend not to spend SWC on Fusiliers aside from HD.

>>54582374
Seminar when?

>>54580985
I dunno. If you only wanted to shell out for one weapon, Sniper can do some offence and some defence. Seems a fair balance.

>>54580985
Ok. I don't think the spec ops has the option to get a Missile Launcher, so I will go with the HMG. On another note, is it worth to get the Fusilier box? The starter has 3 combi ones, and the spec ops can be the 4th. I know links are run with 5 dudes, but the box would bring me to 9 fusiliers, which am not sure are needed.

Also from what I understand REMs are a big part of Panoceanian lists. But which are used most offten? the mule bots or the ODD ones ?

>>54583061
The ODD Drones (Bulleteers) are way, way more used. They're a staple in nearly every PanO list due to being flexible and capable. Every sectorial uses them and they're very powerful.

>>54583061
>But which are used most offten? the mule bots or the ODD ones ?
Neither. Just between Bulleteers and Mulebots the Bulleteers see more play, however the most common bots come from the Dronbot box. They're very versatile and can be used to make a great utility bot, a lethal defensive bot or a dirt cheap scout bot.

>>54583061
You get more models than you'd need in a single list, but you get the option to go WYSIWYG.
For Spec Ops MSR + Mimetism is a popular choice, as it makes the Fusilier basically what Kamau is going to be. But also Engineer + HD + Wip, as it plugs a specialist hole.

>>54580535
But we already have Splatoon...?

>>54574532
Zuyong Invincible armor. Or the Grenzer Uniform.

>>54583061
9 fusiliers is never ever a good idea. I'd suggest something like the old Aconteimento Regular sniper to complete the link - he's lying down so the scale difference won't be so obvious.

you guys think that if I gave the spec ops the helmet head, I could run him as a hmg kamau? then the fusilier box would make more sense I think. As I could run a 5 man ML+HMG link and a separate fusilier as hacker. Or maybe just go ham and buy a second spec ops and slap a w40k Space marine Launcher on him somewhere. Although I have the feeling it would look bad.

Ah also I went gay for mjr Luna is there a way to use her in a Pano Army. Am fully ok to proxy her as something. Maybe a Hexa, she has a sniper rifle too.

>>54584079
You'll see some outdated advice saying to field a hacker outside a linkteam because otherwise supportware will break it. This is no longer the case and the lone Fusi hacker is overwhelmingly worse than the hacker Drone at only 7 points cheaper. However, if you have a spare light infantryman, the Regular with minelayer and sensor is a great pick, just not spammable due to SWC cost.

>>54584133
Hexa or a croc man [also uses a visor and no helmet]

>>54584133
Have you just solved your own problem anon? Three fusiliers + Spec ops with HMG and beret head + Light infantry sniper model Luna = Full link team. Any opponent who objects to Luna is a tool. Just paint her blue

>>54558404

>Those are pretty cool, though I'd probably toss in Daktari and Knights Hospitalliers.

Also possible yeah.

I think the core of doing cross-faction sectorials is 'They need a theme beyond covering the weakness of the other faction'

>>54584467
oh nice. Are croc man good? I have been told hexas are bad, not that I care much, as my lack of skill will make even good units bad.

Also is 3 nisse too many. got 3 because I liked the models, plus they were on sale. In fact am thinking about buying some more stuff. there is a bot with a drone pecemaker he is called, I think. And order sgts with same drones, I realy like the female model. Also were there ever any female knight models without a helmet other then Jean Darc?

>>54584508
O_O I have not though about it, bad visual imagination. I could totaly paint her blue and not green camo. And I could make her a red head. Thanks anon. Well off to the store then.

>>54584526
>Are croc man good?
Very. They're a PanO staple. TO camo is godlike.

>I have been told hexas are bad
You've been lied to. They're no Croc Men, but they're still really solid. TO camo is godlike.

>Also is 3 nisse too many
Yes. I'd only take 2 maximum, 1 HMG and 1 sniper. Any more than that and you'll run into diminishing returns.

>there is a bot with a drone pecemaker he is called, I think.
Peacemaker is pretty good as something to leave in the midfield to be a thorn in your opponent's side. However I'd get Dronbots before it, all of them have so much utility for their cost and are perfect for beginners.

>And order sgts with same drones, I realy like the female model.
Order Sergeants aren't great in vanilla, they're more sectorial troops meant for Military Orders. However they proxy as other things pretty easily, and make far prettier Auxilia than the actual Auxilia models.

>Also were there ever any female knight models without a helmet other then Jean Darc?
Nope. Not many female knights, iirc Jeanne and a few Order Sergeants are the only ones.

Who here is pumped for Varuna?

>>54585214
Not really pumped, but want to see what they'll do. Some additional options for ORC would be nice.

>>54585139
those auxila, they seem to be in a lot of list. are they that good or are they good only in neo terra ?

>>54585904
The times of Infinite Auxilia Spam are mostly over, but they're still good and cheap.

>>54585974
Meh, I am probably going to buy them anyway. Models look great. Why are they getting worse by the way, points increase or faq killed them ?

>>54586266
They used to have FO on both Auxilia and Auxbots, now only the Auxilia are FOs.

>>54585214
I know my PanO buddy was disappointed it wasn't Svarlarheima. He loves his Jotum and Nisses.

Aristeia miniatures confirmed are made of plastic, not metal

Check Kenny ruiz´s facebook or the infinity warcors page for the sauce( i tried to post it here but captcha thinks it is spam)
Its in spanish but it shows Kenny Ruiz(creator of infinity outrage) and the creator of the rules for aristeia! commenting about the game and the interplanetario

>>54587723
They are easy to build so you can just take the miniatures and play right away(kinda like zombicide, heroquest etc...)

>>54586360
So that is why crocman are good, because they can be FO ? Am going through the stats of panocenian units and my red veil booklet and the mission important WIP seems to be on the low side on our units.

>>54588051
Yes. A TO camo infiltrating specialist is good. Yeah low WIP might hurt a bit, but OTOH you have higher average BS which is used far more often. Just shoot the competition so you can reroll your WIPs in peace.

>>54571144
They should not have done this. It looks fucking terrible.

>>54580068
You're a small mini...

>>54583061
Don't forget about using them as proxies. You want to do something to distinguish them from other fusiliers though.

>>54585214
Almost every single Cutter owner is.

>>54588051
Don't forget X-Visors. The combi versions can sit in suppressive fire for a nice -12 and shoot out to 24 inches with no penalty. A surprise boarding shotgun template that reaches out to 24 inches on 12s isn't too shabby either.

New concept and render screenshots are being posted now. The Szalamandra resculpt concept is amazing.

A few other highlights: Locust art, an EI Bureaucrat HVT, and the sculpt for Nexus Operatives

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HMC, with a computer science degree...

>>54589572
X-Visors have to be one of the nicest pieces of equipment, but the least praised in discussion.

Once I learned Suppressing Fire was affected by it I pretty much take a Lasiq in every list.

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>>54590049
Oops, here's bigger image.
Also, there's the official non-LE Joan of Arc. She looks like He-man, or old Captain Islam, with the sword in the air.

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Neat concept, but Andromeda sucks and guard is a dumb rule. Still looks like a cosplayer.

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Locusts didn't end up as expected at all. He's got like an Iron man chest thing. Guess that's the ODD?
Too bad the sculpt coming out in September is the Hacker.

>>54589184
Are there any female croc man or is there just that one model with the sniper rifle that has to be cut off?

Also regarding the knights, in a vanila/neo terra arm, are there any which are worth taking.
I know black fathers are good, but they aren't sold at my store. The starter has an orc knight, and I have been thinking about maybe giving him a different weapon. The hmg is going on the fusilier spec ops, but I could give him a boarding shotgun. The multirifle seems kind of a meh as stats go, costs an arm and a leg too.

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>I think I'll take a vacation
>Paradiso sounds nice.

>>54590120
He looks like Grifter, which would make more than sense for Corregidor. >>54590158

>>54590158
Old Croc hacker was a girl.
ORC is best with HMG or as Swiss Hacker proxy.

>>54590167
Wait, is that an actual Ur or just some guy/robot?

I hope the former because I've always wondered what they looked like.

>>54590167
Ur HVT best HVT. I hope he has the Unidron winning smile, because damn does it feel good to arrive at a new frontier to bring the EI's light and ignite another star in the brilliant constellation that is the Ur Hegemony.

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New Joan sculpt. Love the long hair

>>54590409
It looks almost identicle to the Nexus mini. Are Nexus operatives Ur?

>>54580527
~ONE NIGHT IN BANGKOK MAKES THE CROC MEN TUMBLE~
~AND IF YOU'RE LUCKY, THE VARUNAN'S A SHE~
~I CAN FEEL AN ASWANG SLIDING BEHIND ME~

>>54590583
No, the HSN3 fluff book mentioned they're a "tool species" that farm on mountain tops and see the Combined as gods.

>>54590603
So the HVT is one of the tool species? Unless the Ur look near identicle.

>>54590631
I assume the Unidrons, made by the Ur before their current aspirations, are modeled after them. He can also be seen as a Unidron-like thing with his outfit and possible prosthetics.

>>54590562
No Saber-hair? Hrmm.

>>54590082
Well, this is a long cry from what i expected...
Neat!

>>54590082
>Tunguska continues to look suspiciously like a CA Sectorial
Bretty cool, though.

>>54590082
Looks a lot like something Onyx would bring.

>>54590729
>Tunguska have been hiding tech and data collected from engagements with the Combined
>Unlike Praxis and ALEPH they just use them as soon as getting a basic understanding of how to operate the tech

>>54590101
Andromeda getting railed by her robot when?

>>54590562
>ONWARDS, BROTHERS! CLEANSE THE ALIEN FILTH!
Also, neat little thing: the Grunt Spec-Ops has two sets of arms for either shotgun or Molotok.

>>54590562
The sculpt is lovely and all, but I had hoped for a bit more of a dynamic pose for Mobility Armor.

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Glad to see the Shikami Sculpt can be any of the profiles.

They may release a duo sculpt in the future though.

Whats everyone's favorite Shikami profile? Mine may be combi because ODD+Supression is fun. Push a button then supress.

>>54590894
Man, he's a chunky bastard. I like it.
Sad that there is no duo sculpt right from the word go, though.

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>>54590704
It's the superior Saber-hair

>>54590631
>>54590658
Unidrons are made in Ur Rationalist image. They were their synthetic foot soldiers long before the rise of the EI. The Nexus are from a different, if similar, species - possibly agumented to resemble like their Ur masters

New Daylami is my guess for the HB starter. Really big difference between it and the old one.

I'm just happy to have a second one visibly holding a tankfist without having to buy another box.

>>54590167

Sweet, I'm glad we finally get an HVT mini.

Was hoping for an Exrah businessbug, but I'll take this.

>>54591435
>no slimy jewish space bug HVT
CB why

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>>54590101
>looks like a cosplayer.
be careful for what you wish for anon

>still no shas
>Half way through 2017

Life is suffering

>>54590158

Use the Orc to proxy literally any PanO HI.

>>54590894
I am inordinately happy. This and Blackjack and ill shut up till the invincible army.

>>54590082
Glad it has a tail as that alone massively improves the old model...that HMC is XBAWX HUEG and apparently two handed instead of arm mounted.

>>54590729
>>54590757
Plasma guns confirmed for the Space Russian Mafia

>>54590894
This is pretty much what I expected but the extra beef is a pleasant surprise.

>>54591613
Is it a midget or a kid?

>>54593245
yes

>>54590101
Hot.

Was that it for the Interplanetary previews?

>>54589108
For you.

>>54594001
Acheron's Fall late 2018.

>>54594072
so it's coming out in 2023

>>54568986
mods

>No blackjack
Trash.

>>54590120
Making Neoterra force while waiting for Varuna.

>>54594472
Blackjack will be revealed at gencon.

>>54594536
At this point, I'll believe it when I see it.

>Acheron falls 2016.

>>54590101
"what" of the steel phalanx? What's her role, what does she do? And what's the Andromeda in real mythology?

The beast is kinda cool, I just dislike that it seems similar to the tohaa beasts. I get that the same designer will use the same style, but a bit more diversity would have been welcome here.

>>54594771
Andromeda's kinda got bad rules. She's a NWI, OK statted foward deploy specialist with mimetism... but crappy weapons. 30 odd points. Has a rule that basically is MA1, so she's OK at melee but not exactly top notch.

She just costs too much and doesn't do anything. Most of her profiles can't shoot outside 8 inches competently either. Not worth it over actual camo infiltrators.

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Where are you guys getting getting your mini's online? Looking for good prices in the US specifically

>>54539562

I just wanted to say, to whomever was the op for this general this time around fuck you. Fuck you for making me stare at sculpted asses every time I browsed the catalog. Fuck you for making me sexualize minis for the first time, and fuck you for making me consider buying into this game. Just fuck you man

>>54594981
Do it.

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New sally looks great.

>>54590082
I am sool interested in Tunguska. Did they mention when it will be released?

>>54594936
Gamenerdz has good prices and a decent rewards program

>>54590562
I really dig this mini

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New Neema

>>54596262
I don't even have a problem with repacks in concept, but half of these ones are retarded. Drop troops? Hac Tao? Why would you take that many, especially when most people will already have a Tiger Soldier from the starter?

>>54596471
>New Ayyar sculpt
Insta-buy for me

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>>54596504
I'm more excited about the new muyibs

>>54596504
Not saying the current one is bad, it's actually really badass, I just can't get enough ayyar

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>>54596439
UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

>>54596567
Those do look really nice

>>54596439
Also new Tohaa unit.

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>>54596671
OPs forgot the pic

>>54596699
Interesting. I wonder if and how cube recovery will be worked into the rules for normal games.

>>54595173

I'm bit mixed on how easy it is to proxy my Iguana for it though.

>>54596471

Do we know what all the models are? The 3 Daylami and the Ayyar are obvious. What are the last two? Muyib and Farzan?

>>54596958
Daylami seem like a bad choice for a starter set, since they're irregular

>>54596958
Farzan and Ayyar for sure (Farzan dossier was in the seminar), but 3 Daylami seems pretty bad...maybe two. My guess is 2 Muyibs, 2 Daylami, Farzan and Ayyar

>>54597044
Old one had two. Was also the only way to get Daylami.

Hoping they change that down the road. Wouldn't mind having at least three panzerfaust daylami without having to get multiple boxes or split with someone.

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Kanren qt

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Crusader Combi+LFT

>>54596439
FUCKING FINALLY

>>54597069

I just noticed one of the guys I assumed was a Daylami has a mask, so Muyib seems more likely. What about the guy to the left of the Ayyar, then? That looks like an HMG, Muyibs don't have an HMG profile.

>>54597733
Pants look like a Muyib. Also Haqq HMGs look pretty distinct, looks more like a rifle+grenade launcher.

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>>54597733
Left of Ayya is Muyib (poofy pants). Right is Farzan (female maybe?)

>>54597733
Could be a Barid with a marker, or Govad with a HMG, or Lasiq with Viral HMG

>>54597895
>or Lasiq with Viral HMG
Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Lofty dreams invite only disappointment.

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>>54595173
I haven't been a fan of the new Tunguska designs. I know they're supposed to be old tech repurposed. I just don't want them to look like space marines/morats. Maybe I'll change my mind once I see the actual scupt. But right now I'll be keeping my old Szallamandra and probably buying another to convert it and make it look distinguished.

>>54590562
No helmet option?

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>>54598031
Any goodness in that model is all painting skill. I think the best way to convert that model would be to change the gun, since the poor sculpting is most apparent in the lack of gun detail.

>>54598031
Half of it is probably the colour scheme desu. Aside from maybe Corregidor stuff, Nomads look a lot better with orange than red.